From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 2 05:20:20 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:20:20 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Meeting Message-ID: <20061002072020.200ce206@sovvan> Next Tuesday is our October meeting of Houston.pm. I'll be talking about the Perl::Critic module and how it can help you improve your code. No one has suggested an alternate location for the meeting yet, so I guess we will be meeting at the HAL-PC headquarters as usual. (Unless someone has a better idea.) Any alternate location will need to be identified quickly, since we only have a week until the meeting. Hope to see you there. G. Wade -- $HOME is where your dotfiles are. -- Gym Quirk From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 2 20:20:59 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:20:59 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Registrations are open for OSDC 2006 Message-ID: <20061002222059.3ddb02df@sovvan> Here's a message to the PM groups from Scott Penrose. Registrations are open for the Open Source Developers' Conference 2006: http://www.osdc.com.au/registration/index.html Book before 31st October to save $50 and get a free conference t-shirt! The Open Source Developers' Conference is an Australian conference covering talks about software development for open source languages and projects; regardless of operating system. The technical program is running from 6th - 8th December 2006 and will be held in Melbourne, Victoria (at Monash University's Caulfield Campus). We are planning to have 3 streams of talks over the three days with combined keynotes at the start and end of each day. Morning and afternoon teas, and lunch will be provided. A conference dinner will be held on the night of the 6th. Talks this year include: - "Mono - Migrating from Windows to Linux" by Dr. Trent Mifsud, Lecturer for the Faculty of Information Technology, Monash University - "Data Warehousing HOWTO" by Evan Leybourn, Director of Looking Glass Solutions - "J2EE and Open Source Innovation: The Relationship between Open Source and Standards" by Keith Pitty, Senior Consultant at Cirrus Technologies Pty Ltd - "Enterprise PHP" by Thorsten Rinne, Software Developer at Mayflower GmbH / ThinkPHP - "Obfuscation, Golfing and Secret Operators in Perl" by Jos? Castro, Team Leader at log - "A Rails/Django Comparison" by Alan Green, Cirrus Technologies and Ben Askins, Sterland Computing For a full list please visit: http://osdc2006.cgpublisher.com/session_descriptions.html Conference keynote presentors include Damian Conway, Randal L. Schwartz, Richard Farnsworth and others. On the 5th of December we are running a number of short tutorials. These cover Cascading Style Sheets, Open Source Python GIS Hacks, Testing Web Applications with Perl, a Drupal Tutorial, an Introduction to Perl Template Toolkit and Building Large Scale Web Apps. For more information please visit: http://www.osdc.com.au/papers/tutorials.html We look forward to sharing this great conference with you. Scott -- * - * http://www.osdc.com.au - Open Source Developers Conference * - * Scott Penrose VP in charge of Pancakes http://linux.dd.com.au/ scottp at dd.com.au Dismaimer: If you receive this email in error - please eat it immediately to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands. Please do not send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Microsoft is not the answer. It's the question. And the answer is no. From robo4288 at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 09:40:29 2006 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:40:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Meeting In-Reply-To: <20061002072020.200ce206@sovvan> References: <20061002072020.200ce206@sovvan> Message-ID: <435624390610050940l42cfb8e5pd2715a58701d0025@mail.gmail.com> Since we are having the meeting at HAL-PC, what do we need to do to join? Robert On 10/2/06, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > Next Tuesday is our October meeting of Houston.pm. I'll be talking about the > Perl::Critic module and how it can help you improve your code. > > No one has suggested an alternate location for the meeting yet, so I guess we > will be meeting at the HAL-PC headquarters as usual. (Unless someone has a > better idea.) Any alternate location will need to be identified quickly, since > we only have a week until the meeting. > > Hope to see you there. > G. Wade > -- > $HOME is where your dotfiles are. -- Gym Quirk > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Oct 5 15:53:36 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 17:53:36 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Meeting In-Reply-To: <435624390610050940l42cfb8e5pd2715a58701d0025@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061002072020.200ce206@sovvan> <435624390610050940l42cfb8e5pd2715a58701d0025@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061005175336.621fe6e8@sovvan> On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:40:29 -0500 "Robert Boone" wrote: > Since we are having the meeting at HAL-PC, what do we need to do to join? Their membership form is on-line at https://office.hal-pc.org/halnet/join_hal/join1.php G. Wade -- If there's no problem, there's no solution. -- Rick Hoselton From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 9 05:01:06 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 07:01:06 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] This month's meeting Message-ID: <20061009070106.3ab4d9ab@sovvan> This is a reminder that the October meeting is at the HAL-PC headquarters, tomorrow night at 7PM. I will be presenting on the Perl::Critic module. G. Wade From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 15 15:07:55 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:07:55 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting notes Message-ID: <20061015170755.422e9f06@sovvan> The October presentation notes are now on-line at http://houston.pm.org/talks/2006talks/0610Talk/index.html After the presentation, a few people expressed interest in creating modules. I mentioned the Module::Starter module and some of the Test::* modules. The book "Perl Testing: A Developer's Notebook" was also mentioned. What is the interest in a presentation on this subject? One possible format would be a kind of workshop approach, where we start from nothing a build up a small module going over some of the issues you can expect to see. Any interest? G. Wade -- If there's no solution, there's no problem. -- Rick Hoselton From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 15 15:15:28 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:15:28 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location Message-ID: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> After the meeting on Tuesday night, a small discussion erupted about the possibility of a different meeting location. As we have discussed in the past, changing locations would remove the need for HAL-PC membership (which has been a sore point for a few people). It would also free us up to choose different potential times, since we would not be bound by the HAL-PC SIG schedule. On the downside, we might not have quite as nice a meeting room with the computer and projector. Potential locations that have been discussed include: * HCC on the west loop * Office building downtown * Community center off the Sam Houston tollway and Richmond * Office building out Richmond and Wilcrest None of these locations have been finalized and any could fall through. If we could choose a different location and an earlier time or different day, would you be more or less likely to be there? This would be a good time to put in your opinion if you would like to see a change of venue. G. Wade -- Don't kill him!! If you kill him, he won't learn nothin'! -- The Riddler, "Batman Forever" From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sun Oct 15 17:23:04 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> Message-ID: <4532D0E8.CC7DC8F7@earthlink.net> I vote for U of H, Clear Lake. That would be convenient for me :-) Mike "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > After the meeting on Tuesday night, a small discussion erupted about > the possibility of a different meeting location. > > As we have discussed in the past, changing locations would remove the > need for HAL-PC membership (which has been a sore point for a few > people). It would also free us up to choose different potential times, > since we would not be bound by the HAL-PC SIG schedule. > > On the downside, we might not have quite as nice a meeting room with the > computer and projector. > > Potential locations that have been discussed include: > > * HCC on the west loop > * Office building downtown > * Community center off the Sam Houston tollway and Richmond > * Office building out Richmond and Wilcrest > > None of these locations have been finalized and any could fall through. > > If we could choose a different location and an earlier time or > different day, would you be more or less likely to be there? > > This would be a good time to put in your opinion if you would like to > see a change of venue. > > G. Wade > -- > Don't kill him!! If you kill him, he won't learn nothin'! > -- The Riddler, "Batman Forever" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 15 18:45:52 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:45:52 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <4532D0E8.CC7DC8F7@earthlink.net> References: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> <4532D0E8.CC7DC8F7@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20061015204552.379bc353@sovvan> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:04 -0500 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > I vote for U of H, Clear Lake. > That would be convenient for me :-) Can you get us a location? At this point, I'd like to see any possibilities on the table. G. Wade -- The purpose of software engineering is to control complexity, not to create it. -- Dr. Pamela Zave From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com Mon Oct 16 12:54:58 2006 From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:54:58 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 23, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:04 -0500 >Mike Flannigan wrote: >> >> I vote for U of H, Clear Lake. >> That would be convenient for me :-) > Can you get us a location? > At this point, I'd like to see any possibilities on the table. >G. Wade As a Clear Laker working on a NASA contract, I can't help but pipe in "I second that"! UH/CL But I'm not very familiar with the facility. Actually, the Clear Lake HAL-PC facility is pretty good, but may have the same problem as HAL-PC central. I imagine we Clear Lakers are in the minority. If not centrally located, a location closer to a freeway would probably be better for most. How about UH main campus, University Center? What about the chosen (yet?) location for the 2007 YAPC event? Not free? Advantage would be to allow getting familiar with the facility and contacts well before the event, and as the event gets nearer, would make it easier for the group to prepare the site for the YAPC event, perhaps during meetings. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- Wayne A. Haufler Senior Software Engineer (SE) In Space Shuttle Program (SSP) Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston Voice: 281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 1C23 E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com Skills : Unix,C,C++,Perl,SQL,QNX,X-Windows (Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not represent the view of Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.) From mikeflan at earthlink.net Mon Oct 16 16:27:39 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:27:39 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> <4532D0E8.CC7DC8F7@earthlink.net> <20061015204552.379bc353@sovvan> Message-ID: <4534156B.D609F66D@earthlink.net> "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > Can you get us a location? > > At this point, I'd like to see any possibilities on the table. > > G. Wade Yeah, I'll work on it a bit and see what turns up. I'll let you know. They have a nice building dedicated just to computer stuff. I would like to get with Wayne and maybe a few others down here and get a little something going on the Perl front on this end of town. I haven't said anything till now because I'm not willing to go through all the trouble you do to put on a good, continuing program. I suspect anything I would get going would not continue forever. Heck, even if we met quarterly it would be better than what I do now. Mike From mikeflan at earthlink.net Mon Oct 16 16:35:23 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:35:23 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting notes References: <20061015170755.422e9f06@sovvan> Message-ID: <4534173B.4F8C0FEA@earthlink.net> "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > The October presentation notes are now on-line at > http://houston.pm.org/talks/2006talks/0610Talk/index.html > > After the presentation, a few people expressed interest in creating > modules. I mentioned the Module::Starter module and some of the Test::* > modules. The book "Perl Testing: A Developer's Notebook" was also > mentioned. > > What is the interest in a presentation on this subject? > > One possible format would be a kind of workshop approach, where we > start from nothing a build up a small module going over some of the > issues you can expect to see. > > Any interest? > > G. Wade Yeah, I'm interested in that topic. I was just looking on CPAN today for a module that would calculate volume in a partially filled horizontal vessel with elliptical ends. I was surprised I couldn't find one. I did find Math-Volume-Rotational-0.11.tar.gz, but didn't want to start that basic. Anyway, I'm mildly interested in knowing how to write a module for mass consumption. I've written 2-3 for myself, but haven't followed all the rules on those. Mike From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 16 17:03:41 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:03:41 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 23, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061016190341.6ddf66c1@sovvan> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:54:58 -0500 "Haufler, Wayne A" wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:23:04 -0500 > >Mike Flannigan wrote: > > >> > >> I vote for U of H, Clear Lake. > >> That would be convenient for me :-) > > > Can you get us a location? > > > At this point, I'd like to see any possibilities on the table. > > >G. Wade > > As a Clear Laker working on a NASA contract, > I can't help but pipe in "I second that"! UH/CL > But I'm not very familiar with the facility. One of the problems we've had with locations is the fact that we are spread out from Clear Lake, to the Woodlands, to Katy, to Sugar Land, as well as downtown and the Texas Medical Center. > Actually, the Clear Lake HAL-PC facility is > pretty good, but may have the same problem > as HAL-PC central. > > I imagine we Clear Lakers are in the minority. > If not centrally located, a location closer > to a freeway would probably be better for most. My wife has just gotten some information about a community center that is just off the Sam Houston Tollway. This might actually be more convenient than HAL-PC for people who aren't in the middle of town. http://www.pct3.hctx.net/ccTracyGee/ > How about UH main campus, University Center? > What about the chosen (yet?) location for the > 2007 YAPC event? Not free? My memories of my last time at UH main campus was some difficulty getting to campus in the evenings. > Advantage would be to allow getting familiar > with the facility and contacts well before > the event, and as the event gets nearer, > would make it easier for the group to prepare > the site for the YAPC event, perhaps during > meetings. I'll check with Jeremy to find out who are contacts are at UH. G. Wade -- Results are what you wanted, consequences are what you got. -- Michael VanDusen From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 16 18:45:26 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:45:26 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Potential Meeting Times Message-ID: <20061016204526.6d093319@sovvan> We've been talking a bit about other locations. What about times and days. In the past, people have told me they might find it easier to make a 5:30pm or 6:00pm time than to meet at 7pm. Agree? Disagree? Would another day be better? Friday? Monday? Any opinions? This is a chance to influence a time/day that is potentially better for you. G. Wade -- Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygine. Where one is tolerated, many are found. -- Rick Hoselton From tigger at io.com Tue Oct 17 07:31:28 2006 From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> References: <20061015171528.31f60310@sovvan> Message-ID: <20061017093111.Q47326@fnord.io.com> I vote for HCC on west loop. Paul Sunday, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > After the meeting on Tuesday night, a small discussion erupted about > the possibility of a different meeting location. > > As we have discussed in the past, changing locations would remove the > need for HAL-PC membership (which has been a sore point for a few > people). It would also free us up to choose different potential times, > since we would not be bound by the HAL-PC SIG schedule. > > On the downside, we might not have quite as nice a meeting room with the > computer and projector. > > Potential locations that have been discussed include: > > * HCC on the west loop > * Office building downtown > * Community center off the Sam Houston tollway and Richmond > * Office building out Richmond and Wilcrest > > None of these locations have been finalized and any could fall through. > > If we could choose a different location and an earlier time or > different day, would you be more or less likely to be there? > > This would be a good time to put in your opinion if you would like to > see a change of venue. > > G. Wade > -- > Don't kill him!! If you kill him, he won't learn nothin'! > -- The Riddler, "Batman Forever" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -------------------------------------------- Never ascribe to malice what can perfectly well be explained by stupidity. -Anonymous -------------------------------------------- From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com Tue Oct 17 13:00:15 2006 From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:00:15 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not that there isn't considerable value in meeting as a group, face-to-face, but let me reiterate my previous suggestion (to which I have seen no response) that we consider a virtual electronic meeting to compliment the physical meeting for those that can't attend physically. Considering how spread out we are, this would be very convenient. Is this a pipe-dream? Or can we harness broadband access and tools like ICU (?). I'm not familiar with the state-of-the-art of freely available conferencing tools, but will try to look into it. But, yes, I'd also like to meet with local Clear Lake area Perl Mongers. I have a small list of known Perl users within Boeing Houston. Thanks, Wayne Haufler From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Oct 17 16:25:37 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:25:37 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Virtual Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061017182537.607a8340@sovvan> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:00:15 -0500 "Haufler, Wayne A" wrote: > Not that there isn't considerable value in meeting as a group, > face-to-face, but let me reiterate my previous suggestion (to which I > have seen no response) that we consider a virtual electronic meeting > to compliment the physical meeting for those that can't attend > physically. Considering how spread out we are, this would be very > convenient. I'm sorry, Wayne. I thought I had answered. I did some research on this when you mentioned it last. I also talked a bit with some of the leaders of the other PM groups. Apparently, there had been problems in the past with people not being willing to be recorded and talking in a context where they could be recorded. There had also been issues with people being afraid of being too informal when they can't see the entire audience. The result was that some groups had seen a reduction in people willing to present when recording or virtual meeting type approaches were used. This is not to say that it wouldn't be different with Houston.pm, but that is what others had experienced. Unfortunately, shortly after that I became swamped and haven't looked into it further. > Is this a pipe-dream? Or can we harness broadband access and tools > like ICU (?). I'm not familiar with the state-of-the-art of freely > available conferencing tools, but will try to look into it. > > But, yes, I'd also like to meet with local Clear Lake area Perl > Mongers. I have a small list of known Perl users within Boeing > Houston. How many Clear Lake members do we have? G. Wade -- The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line. From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Oct 21 11:53:18 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:53:18 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location Message-ID: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting location change: * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop * One vote for UH main campus Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? G. Wade -- "I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate." -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure" From ben at cpanel.net Sat Oct 21 13:14:38 2006 From: ben at cpanel.net (Ben M. Thomas) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:14:38 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> Message-ID: <7C36779A-7AD2-4BAB-9CA4-2C77D083D3A4@cpanel.net> On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting > location change: > > * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake > * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop > * One vote for UH main campus > > Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? I think they're really two separate issues. One being dissatisfaction with the current location, and the other being suitable alternatives. I'm new to the group, but HAL-PC is wanting in my opinion. My vote is for HCC West Loop, however the chosen location should be given to the location which garners the most attendees. HCC West Loop not significantly far from the current location and easily accessible from 610. However, I'm willing to attend regardless of location. BTW, I will be able to provide a LCD projector for the meetings. --- Ben M. Thomas ben at cpanel.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3951 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/houston/attachments/20061021/c0dc7c2c/attachment.bin From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Oct 21 14:20:13 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:20:13 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <7C36779A-7AD2-4BAB-9CA4-2C77D083D3A4@cpanel.net> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <7C36779A-7AD2-4BAB-9CA4-2C77D083D3A4@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <20061021162013.702fd5f8@sovvan> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:14:38 -0500 "Ben M. Thomas" wrote: > On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:53 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > > > To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential > > meeting location change: > > > > * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake > > * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop > > * One vote for UH main campus > > > > Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current > > location? > > I think they're really two separate issues. One being > dissatisfaction with the current location, and the other being > suitable alternatives. I'm new to the group, but HAL-PC is wanting in > my opinion. You're right, of course. Rather than keeping quiet, people could speak up to let the group know if they have any other idea for a location. More information about where people might be coming from or might be willing to go would help in trying to identify a potential new site. > My vote is for HCC West Loop, however the chosen location should be > given to the location which garners the most attendees. That makes two. > HCC West Loop not significantly far from the current location and > easily accessible from 610. However, I'm willing to attend > regardless of location. > > BTW, I will be able to provide a LCD projector for the meetings. That would be great. Having a projector could open up other potential locations. Thanks, Ben. Anyone else have any input? G. Wade -- Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -- Brian W. Kernighan From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sat Oct 21 14:25:34 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:25:34 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> Message-ID: <453A904E.BAC15A05@earthlink.net> "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting > location change: > > * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake > * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop > * One vote for UH main campus > > Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? > > G. Wade I'll be calling the right person at U of H, Clear Lake on Monday. I'll let you know what I find out. Mike From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sat Oct 21 14:34:05 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:34:05 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <7C36779A-7AD2-4BAB-9CA4-2C77D083D3A4@cpanel.net> <20061021162013.702fd5f8@sovvan> Message-ID: <453A924D.47A4BD7F@earthlink.net> "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > > That would be great. Having a projector could open up other potential > locations. > > Thanks, Ben. > > Anyone else have any input? > > G. Wade I like Wayne's idea of video conferencing. Probably too many hurdles to overcome, but I'd like to see it happen. Somebody who attends the meeting would have to have some kind of camera. Then maybe this would work for the Windows people: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/netmeeting/ Mike From fraser at pobox.com Sat Oct 21 16:14:09 2006 From: fraser at pobox.com (Fraser Baker) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:14:09 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> Message-ID: I don't know where the HCC on the west loop is. Fraser -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:53 PM To: Houston Perl Mongers Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting location change: * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop * One vote for UH main campus Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? G. Wade -- "I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate." -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure" _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Oct 21 16:33:29 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:33:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021231718.8A02717771@x6.develooper.com> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <20061021231718.8A02717771@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <20061021183329.642524f1@sovvan> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:14:09 -0500 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > > I don't know where the HCC on the west loop is. Just south of 59, inside the loop. I need to check with them to see what is needed to get a room. G. Wade -- The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line. From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Oct 21 16:38:50 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:38:50 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <453A924D.47A4BD7F@earthlink.net> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <7C36779A-7AD2-4BAB-9CA4-2C77D083D3A4@cpanel.net> <20061021162013.702fd5f8@sovvan> <453A924D.47A4BD7F@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20061021183850.061ab3ed@sovvan> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:34:05 -0500 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > > > > > That would be great. Having a projector could open up other > > potential locations. > > > > Thanks, Ben. > > > > Anyone else have any input? > > > > G. Wade > > I like Wayne's idea of video conferencing. Probably too > many hurdles to overcome, but I'd like to see it happen. > Somebody who attends the meeting would have to have > some kind of camera. Then maybe this would work for > the Windows people: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/netmeeting/ I've heard that the GnomeMeeting software is compatible with NetMeeting for those of us who run Linux. I haven't tried it, though. Anyone else have experience with either product? G. Wade -- It's easier to port a shell than a shell script. -- Larry Wall From fraser at pobox.com Sat Oct 21 16:53:39 2006 From: fraser at pobox.com (Fraser Baker) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:53:39 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021183329.642524f1@sovvan> Message-ID: My vote would be for the HCC location Fraser -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:33 PM To: houston at pm.org Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:14:09 -0500 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > > I don't know where the HCC on the west loop is. Just south of 59, inside the loop. I need to check with them to see what is needed to get a room. G. Wade -- The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line. _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From will.willis at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 20:47:52 2006 From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:52 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> Message-ID: <6ee1e6090610212047h65068ee7ge44f919d3d918193@mail.gmail.com> HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with them? And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of Houston Downtown be for any of you? -Will On 10/21/06, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting > location change: > > * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake > * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop > * One vote for UH main campus > > Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? > > G. Wade > -- > "I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated > rate." -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From toddr at null.net Sat Oct 21 21:18:14 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:18:14 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <20061021235649.CB4B817792@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <009a01c6f591$18c87050$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Another possibility is 1111 Fannin downtown. It'll be in the basement, easily accessible from the lobby. I would vote for 5:30/6:00-ish. I think after 6:00 you can park in the streets so parking shouldn't be a problem. The room should have projector/internet. I'm 99% certain I can get a room for the next meeting. I just have to have a agreed upon date so I can call and book it. Are we talking the 7th or 14th? I haven't seen any comments on the time of week yet. I have no issue with the current meeting dates, but I'm not clear what the rule set for determining which Tuesday. Sometimes it's the first and sometimes the second Tuesday. PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear lake idea. I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting a location in Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, and therefore separate groups? -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Fraser Baker Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:54 PM To: 'Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.' Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location My vote would be for the HCC location Fraser -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:33 PM To: houston at pm.org Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:14:09 -0500 "Fraser Baker" wrote: > > I don't know where the HCC on the west loop is. Just south of 59, inside the loop. I need to check with them to see what is needed to get a room. G. Wade -- The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line. _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 22 09:04:41 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:04:41 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090610212047h65068ee7ge44f919d3d918193@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <6ee1e6090610212047h65068ee7ge44f919d3d918193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061022110441.6183e5de@sovvan> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:52 -0500 "Will Willis" wrote: > HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a > test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list > attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with > them? I was planning on checking with HCC tomorrow or the next day (I've got a little time off). I'll let the list know if I can get something set up. > And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of > Houston Downtown be for any of you? The only issue there that I can think of is the issues with getting downtown and parking. With MetroRail, there are many alternatives for parking. Any other opinions? G. Wade -- "Very sad life. Probably also have sad death. But at least there is symmetry." -- Zathras From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 22 09:10:55 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:10:55 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location In-Reply-To: <009a01c6f591$18c87050$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> References: <20061021235649.CB4B817792@x6.develooper.com> <009a01c6f591$18c87050$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Message-ID: <20061022111055.1884493d@sovvan> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:18:14 -0500 "Todd Rinaldo" wrote: > Another possibility is 1111 Fannin downtown. It'll be in the basement, > easily accessible from the lobby. I would vote for 5:30/6:00-ish. I > think after 6:00 you can park in the streets so parking shouldn't be > a problem. The room should have projector/internet. I'm 99% certain I > can get a room for the next meeting. I just have to have a agreed > upon date so I can call and book it. Are we talking the 7th or 14th? If we keep the current date, it would be the 14th. > I haven't seen any comments on the time of week yet. I have no issue > with the current meeting dates, but I'm not clear what the rule set > for determining which Tuesday. Sometimes it's the first and sometimes > the second Tuesday. It's actually always the second Tuesday of the month, which gives us a day between the 8th and the 14th. > PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear > lake idea. I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting > a location in Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, > and therefore separate groups? I was actually thinking about this yesterday. Another alternative, if we could get the on-line meeting thing going would be for Clear Lake or Katy or where ever to have kind of a "satellite meeting location" and let us connect the locations with something like NetMeeting or GnomeMeeting. This does require that all locations have Internet access. That may limit possible venues. This may be something we could work on for a later meeting if we can get people from at least two of the groups to attempt to test out the idea. G. Wade -- "No Boom today. Boom tomorrow, There's always a boom tomorrow." -- Ivanova, "Grail" From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sun Oct 22 10:01:42 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:01:42 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <009a01c6f591$18c87050$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Message-ID: <453BA3F6.7D5E387E@earthlink.net> Todd Rinaldo wrote: snip > PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear lake idea. > I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting a location in > Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, and therefore > separate groups? We agree with this last comment. That's why we make so few meetings out to the west side of town. Another group or video conferencing is our preference too. Mike From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sun Oct 22 10:22:53 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:22:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location References: <20061021135318.4e0b086d@sovvan> <6ee1e6090610212047h65068ee7ge44f919d3d918193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453BA8ED.42E0BF7C@earthlink.net> Will Willis wrote: > HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a > test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list > attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with > them? > > And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of > Houston Downtown be for any of you? > > -Will U of H - the main campus - is pretty good for me. Is that the same as U of H downtown - probably not. At least the web site indicates NO. Definityely not. Not much further in distance. With free parking it might be OK. Mike From toddr at null.net Sun Oct 22 10:43:12 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:43:12 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting Topic for November. Message-ID: <00a601c6f601$8c116bf0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> For the next meeting, I offer to present some CPAN modules that have been helpful to me lateley: 1. Getopt-Euclid-v0.0.8 - Uses POD code to interpret command line as well as enforce a consistent man page. Great for self-documenting code 2. Smart-Comments-v1.0.2 - Cool way to document and simplify checks. Mostly I just like the progress meters 3. Log4Perl - very cool print alternative. Makes log files easy to parse later. I think there's some more. I need to look when I get to work. From glenn.pringle at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 17:32:31 2006 From: glenn.pringle at gmail.com (Glenn Pringle) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:32:31 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting location Message-ID: <1e5aba3c0610251732n5f9c68e1k4326d05ff53f12ee@mail.gmail.com> HCC or UH-Downtown work for me. I live in Conroe and work around downtown. > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:52 -0500 > From: "Will Willis" > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." > Message-ID: > <6ee1e6090610212047h65068ee7ge44f919d3d918193 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a > test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list > attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with > them? > > And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of > Houston Downtown be for any of you? > > -Will > > On 10/21/06, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > > To summarize the results we've gotten so far on the potential meeting > > location change: > > > > * Two people have voted for UH Clear Lake > > * One person has voted for HCC on the West Loop > > * One vote for UH main campus > > > > Does this mean that everyone else is happy with the current location? > > > > G. Wade > > -- > > "I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated > > rate." -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure" > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:18:14 -0500 > From: "Todd Rinaldo" > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: , "'Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.'" > > Message-ID: <009a01c6f591$18c87050$0201a8c0 at centurysupply.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Another possibility is 1111 Fannin downtown. It'll be in the basement, > easily accessible from the lobby. I would vote for 5:30/6:00-ish. I think > after 6:00 you can park in the streets so parking shouldn't be a problem. > The room should have projector/internet. I'm 99% certain I can get a room > for the next meeting. I just have to have a agreed upon date so I can call > and book it. Are we talking the 7th or 14th? > > I haven't seen any comments on the time of week yet. I have no issue with > the current meeting dates, but I'm not clear what the rule set for > determining which Tuesday. Sometimes it's the first and sometimes the > second > Tuesday. > > PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear lake > idea. > I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting a location in > Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, and therefore > separate groups? > > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Fraser Baker > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:54 PM > To: 'Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.' > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > > My vote would be for the HCC location > > Fraser > > > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+fraser=pobox.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade > Johnson > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 6:33 PM > To: houston at pm.org > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:14:09 -0500 > "Fraser Baker" wrote: > > > > > I don't know where the HCC on the west loop is. > > Just south of 59, inside the loop. > > I need to check with them to see what is needed to get a room. > > G. Wade > -- > The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line. > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:04:41 -0500 > From: "G. Wade Johnson" > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: houston at pm.org > Message-ID: <20061022110441.6183e5de at sovvan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:52 -0500 > "Will Willis" wrote: > > > HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a > > test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list > > attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with > > them? > > I was planning on checking with HCC tomorrow or the next day (I've got > a little time off). I'll let the list know if I can get something set > up. > > > And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of > > Houston Downtown be for any of you? > > The only issue there that I can think of is the issues with getting > downtown and parking. With MetroRail, there are many alternatives for > parking. > > Any other opinions? > > G. Wade > -- > "Very sad life. Probably also have sad death. But at least there is > symmetry." -- Zathras > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:10:55 -0500 > From: "G. Wade Johnson" > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: houston at pm.org > Message-ID: <20061022111055.1884493d at sovvan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:18:14 -0500 > "Todd Rinaldo" wrote: > > > Another possibility is 1111 Fannin downtown. It'll be in the basement, > > easily accessible from the lobby. I would vote for 5:30/6:00-ish. I > > think after 6:00 you can park in the streets so parking shouldn't be > > a problem. The room should have projector/internet. I'm 99% certain I > > can get a room for the next meeting. I just have to have a agreed > > upon date so I can call and book it. Are we talking the 7th or 14th? > > If we keep the current date, it would be the 14th. > > > I haven't seen any comments on the time of week yet. I have no issue > > with the current meeting dates, but I'm not clear what the rule set > > for determining which Tuesday. Sometimes it's the first and sometimes > > the second Tuesday. > > It's actually always the second Tuesday of the month, which gives us a > day between the 8th and the 14th. > > > PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear > > lake idea. I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting > > a location in Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, > > and therefore separate groups? > > I was actually thinking about this yesterday. Another alternative, if > we could get the on-line meeting thing going would be for Clear Lake or > Katy or where ever to have kind of a "satellite meeting location" and > let us connect the locations with something like NetMeeting or > GnomeMeeting. This does require that all locations have Internet access. > That may limit possible venues. > > This may be something we could work on for a later meeting if we can > get people from at least two of the groups to attempt to test out the > idea. > > G. Wade > -- > "No Boom today. Boom tomorrow, There's always a boom tomorrow." > -- Ivanova, "Grail" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:01:42 -0500 > From: Mike Flannigan > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." > Message-ID: <453BA3F6.7D5E387E at earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > snip > > > PS: I'm equally fine with the HCC location. I'm against the Clear lake > idea. > > I would suggest that Clearlake is equivalent to suggesting a location in > > Katy or the Woodlands. They're almost separate cities, and therefore > > separate groups? > > We agree with this last comment. That's why we make so > few meetings out to the west side of town. Another group > or video conferencing is our preference too. > > > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:22:53 -0500 > From: Mike Flannigan > Subject: Re: [pm-h] Meeting location > To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." > Message-ID: <453BA8ED.42E0BF7C at earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Will Willis wrote: > > > HCC has been getting some positive responses. Why don't we give it a > > test run and plan to meet there next month? Does anyone on this list > > attend HCC (and|or) be willing to make the proper arrangements with > > them? > > > > And just for curiosity's sake, how convenient would the University of > > Houston Downtown be for any of you? > > > > -Will > > U of H - the main campus - is pretty good for me. > > Is that the same as U of H downtown - probably not. > At least the web site indicates NO. > > Definityely not. > > Not much further in distance. With free parking it might be > OK. > > > Mike > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:43:12 -0500 > From: "Todd Rinaldo" > Subject: [pm-h] Meeting Topic for November. > To: > Message-ID: <00a601c6f601$8c116bf0$0201a8c0 at centurysupply.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > For the next meeting, I offer to present some CPAN modules that have been > helpful to me lateley: > > 1. Getopt-Euclid-v0.0.8 - Uses POD code to interpret command line as well > as > enforce a consistent man page. Great for self-documenting code > > 2. Smart-Comments-v1.0.2 - Cool way to document and simplify checks. > Mostly > I just like the progress meters > > 3. Log4Perl - very cool print alternative. Makes log files easy to parse > later. > > I think there's some more. I need to look when I get to work. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > End of Houston Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11 > *************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/houston/attachments/20061025/f204c3aa/attachment.html From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Oct 27 05:09:26 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:09:26 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Alternate meeting location Message-ID: <20061027070926.56b70bb3@sovvan> I checked with HCC and they will not have any meeting spaces available until after the end of the year. Todd, any luck with 1111 Fannin as a location for this coming month? G. Wade -- "If everything's under control, you're going too slow." -- Mario Andretti From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Oct 27 05:15:29 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:15:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting topic Message-ID: <20061027071529.2c55711d@sovvan> We have had two topics suggested for the next meeting. Does anyone have a strong opinion on one or the other. 1. Todd Rinaldo volunteered to talk about a set of modules he has been working with: Getopt::Euclid, Smart::Comments, Log4Perl 2. I volunteered to talk about creating modules touching on the Module::Starter, module layout, and unit testing. Any opinions on which topic we should do for November? Remember, there is less than three weeks before the meeting. We need to decide soon to give the presenter time to prepare. G. Wade -- An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field. -- Niels Bohr From toddr at null.net Fri Oct 27 14:05:00 2006 From: toddr at null.net (toddr at null.net) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:05:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting topic Message-ID: I just booked the room. It'll be in the basement of 1111 fannin. Nov 14. We have the room from 5 to 9. Street parking is free after 6:00. More details when I'm not emailng from my phone. -----Original Message----- From: "G. Wade Johnson" Subj: [pm-h] Meeting topic Date: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:18 am Size: 855 bytes To: Houston Perl Mongers We have had two topics suggested for the next meeting. Does anyone have a strong opinion on one or the other. 1. Todd Rinaldo volunteered to talk about a set of modules he has been working with: Getopt::Euclid, Smart::Comments, Log4Perl 2. I volunteered to talk about creating modules touching on the Module::Starter, module layout, and unit testing. Any opinions on which topic we should do for November? Remember, there is less than three weeks before the meeting. We need to decide soon to give the presenter time to prepare. G. Wade -- An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field. -- Niels Bohr _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From toddr at null.net Fri Oct 27 14:05:00 2006 From: toddr at null.net (toddr at null.net) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:05:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting topic Message-ID: I just booked the room. It'll be in the basement of 1111 fannin. Nov 14. We have the room from 5 to 9. Street parking is free after 6:00. More details when I'm not emailng from my phone. -----Original Message----- From: "G. Wade Johnson" Subj: [pm-h] Meeting topic Date: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:18 am Size: 855 bytes To: Houston Perl Mongers We have had two topics suggested for the next meeting. Does anyone have a strong opinion on one or the other. 1. Todd Rinaldo volunteered to talk about a set of modules he has been working with: Getopt::Euclid, Smart::Comments, Log4Perl 2. I volunteered to talk about creating modules touching on the Module::Starter, module layout, and unit testing. Any opinions on which topic we should do for November? Remember, there is less than three weeks before the meeting. We need to decide soon to give the presenter time to prepare. G. Wade -- An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field. -- Niels Bohr _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From toddr at null.net Fri Oct 27 23:48:58 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:48:58 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] New Meeting Location - 1111 Fannin In-Reply-To: <20061027211154.E8D2B1797F@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <005201c6fa5d$267210f0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Ok, so the tennative plan is: Date: November 14 Time: 6:00-6:15 PM Location: 1111 Fannin, 77002 Room: Basement Room A. Parking: Park on street. Free after 6:00. More info. On the location, but first questions: 1. Does this location discourage those who were already planning on attending from coming? 2. Does the new location/time mean you will now be able to attend? 3. Would an earlier/Later time be more helpful to you? Finding the building: The entrance to 1111 Fannin is at the NE corner of Fannin and Dallas. This is a little confusing when you get there because the garage across the street hints that it is 1111 Fannin. It's the white high rise on the link listed below http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1111+fannin+77002&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=19& ll=29.754784,-95.365013&spn=0.001106,0.002682&t=h From toddr at null.net Fri Oct 27 23:59:30 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:59:30 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Satellite Locations Message-ID: <005301c6fa5e$9e1eb440$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Assuming everyone is cool with Fannin, I'm happy to work with someone down in Clear Lake if you'd like to attempt a remote session. I'm afraid video conferencing would be out for this session due to costs, but it may be possible to setup some sort of Net Meeting combined with a couple of Polycomms dialing each other. 1. Who has a room they could volunteer in Clear Lake? 2. Who has a Polycomm for audio? We would have to test the Net Meeting portion in advance. Firewalls may limit our ability to achieve our goals. If anyone has a Raindance or Webex account their company would be willing to donate to the cause, it's more likely we could get this to work. From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 29 09:34:17 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:34:17 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] November topic Message-ID: <20061029113417.76f1be1d@sovvan> If Todd would be ready to present on those three modules, I'm willing to move my topic to February. (I believe Paul had a topic scheduled for January.) If you have a strong opinion, (like you need the module starting stuff for a project and would rather learn from a talk,) shout out and we may swap things around. G. Wade -- If it doesn't have to be right, I can make it arbitrarily fast. -- Rick Hoselton From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 29 09:35:51 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:35:51 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December Message-ID: <20061029113551.46bab874@sovvan> Normally, we take December off from presentations because people are usually pretty busy around the holidays. I'm thinking that maybe this year we could do an informal social-type meeting at a restaurant somewhere around our normal meeting date. We could talk a bit about things like the YAPC progress and potential locations and times for meetings next year, if we feel like it. Or, we could just eat and get to know each other a bit. Any interest? G. Wade -- Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sun Oct 29 15:07:36 2006 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:07:36 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Satellite Locations References: <005301c6fa5e$9e1eb440$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Message-ID: <45453438.98650EF1@earthlink.net> Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Assuming everyone is cool with Fannin, I'm happy to work with someone down > in Clear Lake if you'd like to attempt a remote session. I'm afraid video > conferencing would be out for this session due to costs, but it may be > possible to setup some sort of Net Meeting combined with a couple of > Polycomms dialing each other. > > 1. Who has a room they could volunteer in Clear Lake? > 2. Who has a Polycomm for audio? > > We would have to test the Net Meeting portion in advance. Firewalls may > limit our ability to achieve our goals. If anyone has a Raindance or Webex > account their company would be willing to donate to the cause, it's more > likely we could get this to work. Fannin is OK - not great. 16 miles one way from my work. 23 miles back to my home. 40 miles round trip. Let me know when the next meeting is and I'll try to make it. I know netmeeting isn't ideal, but I think it has merit. I'm still working on U of H Clear Lake. For the last 2 weeks I've waited until Friday afternoon to call them, and they are not there. I'll try again this week. I think getting a school or high-tech business to provide netmeeting resources might be the way to go. I'll ask U of H about this. It sounds like you know what you are talking about. I encourage you to pursue it. I had to google "Polycomm" to figure out what that is. It does sound complicated and expensive to me. Of course, getting the presenter and meeting participants to the recording location is the trick. I doubt U or H Clear Lake will be used more than a few times, but we will see. I'd be willing to help you test the Netmeeting when it gets going. At work we just recently put in Remote Desktop. It worked great for about 2 or 3 weeks, but now works less than 5% of the time. Almost 0% now. It's funny that even today we can't seem to make these things work. Mike Flannigan 281-286-6869 From toddr at null.net Sun Oct 29 16:45:25 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:45:25 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <20061029113551.46bab874@sovvan> Message-ID: <003601c6fbbc$b0dec250$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Wade, That sounds fun. Any other takers? -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:36 AM To: Houston Perl Mongers Subject: [pm-h] December Normally, we take December off from presentations because people are usually pretty busy around the holidays. I'm thinking that maybe this year we could do an informal social-type meeting at a restaurant somewhere around our normal meeting date. We could talk a bit about things like the YAPC progress and potential locations and times for meetings next year, if we feel like it. Or, we could just eat and get to know each other a bit. Any interest? G. Wade -- Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From tigger at io.com Sun Oct 29 18:22:17 2006 From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:22:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <003601c6fbbc$b0dec250$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> References: <003601c6fbbc$b0dec250$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Message-ID: <20061029202207.D60712@fnord.io.com> I second it. Paul 6:45pm, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Wade, > That sounds fun. Any other takers? > > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:36 AM > To: Houston Perl Mongers > Subject: [pm-h] December > > Normally, we take December off from presentations because people are usually > pretty busy around the holidays. > > I'm thinking that maybe this year we could do an informal social-type > meeting at a restaurant somewhere around our normal meeting date. > > We could talk a bit about things like the YAPC progress and potential > locations and times for meetings next year, if we feel like it. Or, we could > just eat and get to know each other a bit. > > Any interest? > > G. Wade > -- > Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > ------------------------------ Woe upon your Cylon heart There's a toaster in your head And it wears high heels Number Six calls to you Cylon Detector beckons Your girlfriend is a toaster -----Battlestar Operatica----- From toddr at null.net Sun Oct 29 20:09:57 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:09:57 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <20061029202207.D60712@fnord.io.com> Message-ID: <000001c6fbd9$43e34280$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Just no secret santa... :) -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Paul Archer Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:22 PM To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Subject: Re: [pm-h] December I second it. Paul 6:45pm, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Wade, > That sounds fun. Any other takers? > > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade > Johnson > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:36 AM > To: Houston Perl Mongers > Subject: [pm-h] December > > Normally, we take December off from presentations because people are > usually pretty busy around the holidays. > > I'm thinking that maybe this year we could do an informal social-type > meeting at a restaurant somewhere around our normal meeting date. > > We could talk a bit about things like the YAPC progress and potential > locations and times for meetings next year, if we feel like it. Or, we > could just eat and get to know each other a bit. > > Any interest? > > G. Wade > -- > Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > ------------------------------ Woe upon your Cylon heart There's a toaster in your head And it wears high heels Number Six calls to you Cylon Detector beckons Your girlfriend is a toaster -----Battlestar Operatica----- _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 29 20:30:30 2006 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:30:30 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <000001c6fbd9$43e34280$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> References: <20061029202207.D60712@fnord.io.com> <000001c6fbd9$43e34280$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Message-ID: <20061029223030.733a8021@sovvan> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:09:57 -0600 "Todd Rinaldo" wrote: > Just no secret santa... :) No!! Not the secret santa... G. Wade -- Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygine. Where one is tolerated, many are found. -- Rick Hoselton From ben at cpanel.net Sun Oct 29 22:23:10 2006 From: ben at cpanel.net (Ben M. Thomas) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:23:10 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <20061029113551.46bab874@sovvan> References: <20061029113551.46bab874@sovvan> Message-ID: <6F692F1F-9756-4DC9-A719-9373779410A6@cpanel.net> On Oct 29, 2006, at 11:35 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > I'm thinking that maybe this year we could do an informal social-type > meeting at a restaurant somewhere around our normal meeting date. > > We could talk a bit about things like the YAPC progress and potential > locations and times for meetings next year, if we feel like it. Or, we > could just eat and get to know each other a bit. Sounds good to me. ---- Ben M. Thomas cPanel, Inc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2411 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/houston/attachments/20061030/baf24545/attachment.bin From toddr at null.net Mon Oct 30 05:24:09 2006 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:24:09 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] December In-Reply-To: <20061029223030.733a8021@sovvan> Message-ID: <000d01c6fc26$af0672b0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com> Except.... I was kinda hoping for the Larry Wall action figure this Christmas. *sniff* http://www.artcardmike.com/artarmy/sp_resize.php?source=./customfigures/Larr yWall.jpg -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:31 PM To: houston at pm.org Subject: Re: [pm-h] December On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:09:57 -0600 "Todd Rinaldo" wrote: > Just no secret santa... :) No!! Not the secret santa... G. Wade -- Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygine. Where one is tolerated, many are found. -- Rick Hoselton _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/