From jarich at perltraining.com.au Fri May 16 00:28:34 2008 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:28:34 +1000 Subject: [hbpm] OSDC 2008 Sydney (1-5 Dec 2008) - Call for Papers Message-ID: <482D37A2.3050006@perltraining.com.au> Sorry if this results in a duplicate. I just haven't seen it around as much as I'd like ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Papers Open Source Developers' Conference 2008 1st - 5th December 2008, Sydney, Australia The Open Source Developers' Conference 2008 is a conference run by open source developers, for developers and business people. It covers numerous programming languages across a range of operating systems, and related topics such as business processes, licensing, and strategy. Talks vary from introductory pieces through to the deeply technical. It is a great opportunity to meet, share, and learn with like-minded individuals. This year, the conference will be held in Sydney, Australia during the first week of December (1st - 5th). If you are an Open Source maintainer, developer or user, the organising committee would encourage you to submit a talk proposal on open source tools, solutions, languages or technologies you are working with. For more details and to submit your proposal(s), go to: http://osdc.com.au/2008/papers/cfp.html If you have any questions or require assistance with your submission, please don't hesitate to ask! We recognise the importance of Open Source in providing a medium for collaboration between individuals, researchers, business and government. In recognition of this and ensure a high standard of presentations, we intend to peer-review all submitted papers. OSDC 2008 Sydney (Australia) - Key Program Dates: 30 Jun - Initial proposals (short abstract) due 21 Jul - Proposal acceptance 15 Sep - Accepted paper submissions 13 Oct - Reviews completed 27 Oct - Final paper submission cut-off For all information, contacts and updates, see the OSDC conference web site at http://osdc.com.au/2008/ Also if you are interested in sponsoring, please see: http://www.osdc.com.au/2008/sponsors/opportunities.html Regards Mark Rees OSDC 2008 Marketing Co-ordinator From george at metaart.org Wed May 21 16:33:10 2008 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:33:10 -0700 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? Message-ID: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> hi all, as of earlier today, this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi does anyone know what's up with that? skoal, george p.s. i'm particularly puzzled as i don't see this group listed as an active group on the pm website. From daniel at team.airnet.net.nz Wed May 21 17:18:09 2008 From: daniel at team.airnet.net.nz (Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:18:09 +1200 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370A6@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Hi George, I've tried to drum up interest around here without much success, which combined with long work hours has basically lead me to not doing anything with the list for quite some time (as you've no doubt noticed lol). Hell, I can't even get any group type interest from the wider programming language base. As much as I'd love to get the site back off the ground and the list back to some activity, the whole Hawkes Bay PM concept doesn't really seem worth it just for you and I to communicate! I'm open to suggestions, and if anyone else local is monitoring this list please speak up, but I kind of feel its just a waste of time at the moment, and I'm sure George that you probably feel you've wasted some of your time trying to push us along (it has definitely been appreciated mind you). Maybe it's better to just shut it all down properly and disband... Thoughts? Regards, Daniel -----Original Message----- From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of George Woolley Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:33 a.m. To: hawkesbay at pm.org Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? hi all, as of earlier today, this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi does anyone know what's up with that? skoal, george p.s. i'm particularly puzzled as i don't see this group listed as an active group on the pm website. _______________________________________________ Hawkesbay mailing list Hawkesbay at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay From george at metaart.org Wed May 21 18:46:47 2008 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:46:47 -0700 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370A6@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370A6@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Message-ID: <200805211846.47330.george@metaart.org> hi danel, thanks for responding. On Wednesday 21 May 2008 17:18, Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ wrote: > Hi George, > > I've tried to drum up interest around here without much success, which > combined with long work hours has basically lead me to not doing > anything with the list for quite some time (as you've no doubt noticed > lol). Hell, I can't even get any group type interest from the wider > programming language base. sounds frustrating. thanks for trying. > > As much as I'd love to get the site back off the ground and the list > back to some activity, the whole Hawkes Bay PM concept doesn't really > seem worth it just for you and I to communicate! damn! > > I'm open to suggestions, unfortunately, i have no suggestions. > and if anyone else local is monitoring this > list please speak up, good suggestion. > but I kind of feel its just a waste of time at the > moment, and I'm sure George that you probably feel you've wasted some of > your time trying to push us along no, i don't feel i've wasted any time. > (it has definitely been appreciated > mind you). i'm glad. thanks. > > Maybe it's better to just shut it all down properly and disband... it's your call. if you decide to shut down before june 11, could you tell dave cross at census at pm.org. after that, i suggest you let support at pm.org only know. > > Thoughts? * i thought your home page for the group was kool! * i request you answer the question i asked explicitly. unfortunately i don't always put two and two together. the question was: as of earlier today, this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi does anyone know what's up with that? <<< > > Regards, > Daniel skoal, george p.s. the pm website doesn't list the group as active, but the group is on the missing groups list for the census. i'm puzzled. > > -----Original Message----- > From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org > [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of > George Woolley > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:33 a.m. > To: hawkesbay at pm.org > Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? > > hi all, > as of earlier today, > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > does anyone know what's up with that? > skoal, > george > > p.s. i'm particularly puzzled > as i don't see this group listed as an active group > on the pm website. > > _______________________________________________ > Hawkesbay mailing list > Hawkesbay at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay > _______________________________________________ > Hawkesbay mailing list > Hawkesbay at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay From jarich at perltraining.com.au Wed May 21 19:02:18 2008 From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:02:18 +1000 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> George Woolley wrote: > hi all, > as of earlier today, > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > does anyone know what's up with that? I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his answer to the census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org J -- ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | contact at perltraining.com.au | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | From daniel at team.airnet.net.nz Wed May 21 19:07:03 2008 From: daniel at team.airnet.net.nz (Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:07:03 +1200 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370BD@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Yeah, that would be my guess too. It's on my todo list, unfortunately it's a long list. However I'll try get it in today. Daniel -----Original Message----- From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of Jacinta Richardson Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 2:02 p.m. To: HawkesBay.pm Subject: Re: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? George Woolley wrote: > hi all, > as of earlier today, > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > does anyone know what's up with that? I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his answer to the census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org J -- ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001 | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | contact at perltraining.com.au | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | _______________________________________________ Hawkesbay mailing list Hawkesbay at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay From george at metaart.org Thu May 22 17:18:21 2008 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:21 -0700 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <200805221718.21079.george@metaart.org> hi jacinta, i think you are likely right. in any case, the group was not on the list the last time i looked. thanks, george On Wednesday 21 May 2008 19:02, Jacinta Richardson wrote: > George Woolley wrote: > > hi all, > > as of earlier today, > > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > > does anyone know what's up with that? > > I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his answer to > the census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org > > J From george at metaart.org Thu May 22 17:25:55 2008 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:25:55 -0700 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370BD@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> <4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D8370BD@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Message-ID: <200805221725.55343.george@metaart.org> hi daniel, last time i looked, the group was no longer on the list of missing groups. thanks, george ------------------------------------------- On Wednesday 21 May 2008 19:07, Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ wrote: > Yeah, that would be my guess too. It's on my todo list, unfortunately > it's a long list. However I'll try get it in today. > > Daniel > > -----Original Message----- > From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org > [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Jacinta Richardson > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 2:02 p.m. > To: HawkesBay.pm > Subject: Re: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? > > George Woolley wrote: > > hi all, > > as of earlier today, > > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > > does anyone know what's up with that? > > I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his answer > to the > census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org > > J From daniel at team.airnet.net.nz Thu May 22 17:35:42 2008 From: daniel at team.airnet.net.nz (Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:35:42 +1200 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <200805221718.21079.george@metaart.org> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org><4834D42A.60606@perltraining.com.au> <200805221718.21079.george@metaart.org> Message-ID: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D837103@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Yep. Dave contacted, census done. =] I'll look at getting the website up and going again, maybe try another push for members/interest around here. Call it a last ditch effort I guess. Cheers for your help guys. Regards, Daniel -----Original Message----- From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of George Woolley Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 12:18 p.m. To: HawkesBay.pm Subject: Re: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? hi jacinta, i think you are likely right. in any case, the group was not on the list the last time i looked. thanks, george On Wednesday 21 May 2008 19:02, Jacinta Richardson wrote: > George Woolley wrote: > > hi all, > > as of earlier today, > > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > > does anyone know what's up with that? > > I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his answer to > the census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org > > J _______________________________________________ Hawkesbay mailing list Hawkesbay at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay From george at metaart.org Thu May 22 18:22:06 2008 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:22:06 -0700 Subject: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? In-Reply-To: <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D837103@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> References: <200805211633.10641.george@metaart.org> <200805221718.21079.george@metaart.org> <069DF3F895842F4AB31E2FA2EA30EE5D837103@airnetsbs.airnetsbs.airnet.local> Message-ID: <200805221822.06103.george@metaart.org> hi daniel, excellent! skoal, george On Thursday 22 May 2008 17:35, Daniel Hopkirk - Airnet NZ wrote: > Yep. Dave contacted, census done. =] > > I'll look at getting the website up and going again, maybe try another > push for members/interest around here. Call it a last ditch effort I > guess. > > Cheers for your help guys. > > Regards, > Daniel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org > [mailto:hawkesbay-bounces+daniel=team.airnet.net.nz at pm.org] On Behalf Of > George Woolley > Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 12:18 p.m. > To: HawkesBay.pm > Subject: Re: [hbpm] Missing Groups List? > > hi jacinta, > i think you are likely right. > > in any case, the group was not on the list > the last time i looked. > > thanks, > george > > On Wednesday 21 May 2008 19:02, Jacinta Richardson wrote: > > George Woolley wrote: > > > hi all, > > > as of earlier today, > > > this group is on the pm census 2008 - missing groups list at > > > http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi > > > does anyone know what's up with that? > > > > I'm going to guess that this is because Daniel hasn't sent in his > > answer to > > > the census questions yet. For more information ask census at pm.org > > > > J > > _______________________________________________ > Hawkesbay mailing list > Hawkesbay at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay > _______________________________________________ > Hawkesbay mailing list > Hawkesbay at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkesbay