From Tim.Maletic at priority-health.com Wed Apr 2 14:22:43 2003 From: Tim.Maletic at priority-health.com (Tim.Maletic@priority-health.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, March 18 Message-ID: Well, since this thread is underway... Our local ACLU chapter (http://www.aclumich.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=41) is considering an effort to seek a GR City Council resolution to register our reservations about the USA Patriot Act. It might bear some relation to this: http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=11105&c=207. Anyone interested in helping out can drop me a note. -Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Poling [mailto:sdp@i2k.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:07 AM > To: Bill Day > Cc: Tim Maletic; grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, March 18 > > > i said this privately to Tim, but since you brought it up > again, i'll repeat it. > > i'm taking chemotherapy. This makes me nauseous. chemotherapy > sucks, but it beats the > alternative. > > Things like the patriot act are like chemotherapy. its > baleful effect on our civil > liberties makes me nauseous, too. frankly, i'll put up with > the nausea if it means we > won't see a mushroom cloud rising over New York or Washington. > > Conversely, if "security" means enforcing the laws Disney > buys to protect its profits, the > government has a problem much more life-threatening than > Osama or Saddam. > > > > Bill Day wrote: > > Even though the previous email was sent in jest (I think). > I find it very distrurbing because there is at least a grain > of truth to it. During the cold war, I was raised in the > "land of the free, home of the brave". > > > > Now we must practice self-censorship. > > > > > > My 1st instinct was to reply with: The name of the book is > "The anarchist cookbook", published by Lyle Stuart, not > O'Reilly. My 2nd instinct was to supress that email to keep > us off the Fed's radar screen. My 3rd insticnt is anger that > I no longer live in a free society. If you attempt to get a > copy, the bookstore or library where you get it will be > forced to rat you out, and it is violation of federal law for > them to let you know they ratted you out. So much for the 1st > ammendment. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:32:27 -0500 > > To: , > > > Subject: RE: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, March 18 > > > > > >>>From: Brandon Gohsman [mailto:brandon@echobox.com] > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:45 PM > >>>To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > >>>Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, March 18 > >>> > >>>Book news. Is there a Terrorist Cookbook? > >> > >> > >>Great. So much for our low profile to the feds. 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If you have received this email in error please notify the Priority Health Information Services Department at (616) 942-0954. ******************************************************************** From brandon at echobox.com Sun Apr 6 10:19:52 2003 From: brandon at echobox.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, April 4 Message-ID: <000e01c2fc4f$fc256400$6701a8c0@echobox5sn5l2k> Brandon Gohsman EchoBox Interactive O-418 Johnson St. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544 T 616.677.1334 C 616.443.8162 E brandon@echobox.com -----Original Message----- From: Marsee Henon [mailto:marsee@oreilly.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:01 PM To: Brandon@echobox.com Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, April 4 O'Reilly User Group Program Newsletter April 4, 2003 Please share this information with your members... Highlights This Week: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Outlook Pocket Guide -Mastering Visual Studio .NET -.NET Windows Forms in a Nutshell -Content Syndication with RSS ---------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Events ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Brian McConnell ("Beyond Contact"), SFPCUG, San Francisco, CA --April 15 -JavaRanch Online Author Forum--Apr 15-18 -PHPCon East 2003, New York, NY--Apr 23-25 -Linuxfest Northwest 2003, Bellingham, WA--April 26 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Conference ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Free Amazon Workshop at the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference -Registration is open for the 2003 O'Reilly Open Source Convention -O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference Call for Participation -Put Up an O'Reilly Open Source Convention Banner, Get a Free Book --------------------------------------------------------------- Safari ---------------------------------------------------------------- -"Go On Safari" winner--Hamster, LinuxChix ---------------------------------------------------------------- News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Sift, Stir, Code: O'Reilly Cookbooks -Daddy, Are We There Yet? 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"Mastering Visual Studio .NET" covers these topics quickly, and then it gives intermediate and advanced programmers the kind of depth that's really needed: advanced window functionality, macros, advanced debugging, add-ins, and so on. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mastvsnet/ Chapter 7, "Integrating Components with Visual Studio .NET," is available online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mastvsnet/chapter/index.html ***.NET Windows Forms in a Nutshell Order Number: 3382 ".NET Windows Forms in a Nutshell" offers an accelerated introduction to this next generation of rich user-interface development. Experienced programmers will find a comprehensive guide to developing Windows applications within the .NET Windows Forms platform, along with a compact yet complete reference to the .NET Framework Class Library (FCL) Windows Forms namespaces and types. 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On the last day, four winners will be randomly selected from all Forum participants to win a copy of the book. http://www.javaranch.com/bookpromo.jsp ***PHPCon East 2003, New York, NY-- April 23-25 Join O'Reilly author and PHP inventor Rasmus Lerdorf ("PHP Pocket Reference") at PHPCon for his opening keynote and session on "PHP Tips and Tricks." Also, don't miss "PHP Cookbook" authors Adam Trachtenberg and David Sklar for their session, "Taming Large-Scale PHP Projects." PHPCon East 2003 Park Central Hotel 870 Seventh Avenue at 56th Street New York City, New York 10019-4038 http://php-con.com/ ***Linuxfest Northwest 2003, Bellingham, WA--April 26 Brian Aker ("Running Weblogs with Slash") and Randal Schwartz ("Learning Perl, 3rd Edition") will be speaking at Linuxfest Northwest 2003, a regional exposition for computer users interested in the Linux operating system and other Open Source software. This event is being organized by Linux User Groups from Bellingham, Kitsap Peninsula, Seattle, and Tacoma, and hosted by BTC. Admission to the event is free. April 26th, 2003,10am to 4pm Bellingham Technical College 3028 Lindbergh Avenue, Bellingham, WA 98225 For more information: http://linuxnorthwest.com For more events, please see: http://events.oreilly.com/ ================================================ Conference News ================================================ ***Free Amazon Workshop at the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference This full-day workshop, located at ETech, examines the Amazon platform in depth, with a specific focus on web services APIs. Amazon.com employees and third party developers share case studies and demonstrations. Space is limited (and filling up quickly). Register for the workshop by April 14, 2003. To register, send an email to Linda Holder at lholder@oreilly.com with your contact information. 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Wei Meng Lee made the leap and reports on how he landed. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/03/28/powerbook.html ================================================ News From Your Peers ================================================ ***MUG ONE Special Event with Dave Marra, Oneonta, NY--May 6 Dave Marra, Apple Senior Systems Engineer, will be presenting to The Macintosh User Group of Oneonta, NY on May 6, 2003 at 7:30 PM in Hogdon IRC Classroom 4 on the State University at Oneonta campus for an exciting evening exploring the amazing new Macintosh hardware and software recently released from Apple. http://www.mugone.com/ ***Peninsula Apple Users Group Celebrates 20 years, Redwood City, CA--July 19 All Macintosh enthusiasts are invited to join Saturday, July 19, 2003 from 11am-3pm at the Red Morton Community Park in Redwood City, California. http://homepage.mac.com/ipaug/20-yrs.html Please RSVP by July 11 to Audrey Hargis at audreyrwc@aol.com. Until next time-- Marsee From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Mon Apr 7 10:37:24 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: This month's Presentations Message-ID: <1049729844.79af85a0HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I've had another request for a presentation on XP. How about I do the XP presentation this month, but put some extra emphasis on automated unit tests in perl? (Those are part of XP) thoughts? Matt H. From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Mon Apr 7 10:37:58 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Speaking of problems ... Message-ID: <1049729878.79af85a0HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> XP = Extreme Programming. Not Windows. Matt H. From sdpoling at attbi.com Mon Apr 7 16:13:25 2003 From: sdpoling at attbi.com (Steve Poling) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Civil Liberties? In-Reply-To: <1049729844.79af85a0HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> References: <1049729844.79af85a0HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> Message-ID: <3E91E9F5.9050609@attbi.com> I just read a blog on National Review's website about the Amber Alert bill currently pending. The bottom line is that when you're talking about the erosion of civil liberties, this isn't a Left (vs) Right thing. And it isn't restricted to the Patriot Act, but mischief is often proposed under the label of "saving children." http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp RAVE [Dave Kopel] Senator Joe Biden (D-Del.) has been pushing a civil liberties disaster called the "RAVE Act," as I detailed a several weeks ago. Very strong grassroots opposition has stalled the Biden bill in Congress. It has not passed a single committee. So now, Biden is attempting to put the RAVE Act onto the conference committee version of the Amber Alert bill (S. 151), regarding abuducted children. According to the Drug Policy Alliance, Biden is incorrectly claiming that the ACLU no longer opposes his bill. The popular Amber Alert bill is in very serious danger of being taken over as a vehicle for oppressive laws which can't make it through the legislative process on their own merits when exposed to public scrutiny. The House version of the Amber bill includes a particularly repressive measure having nothing to do with missing children: the Feeney Amendment destroys most disrection of federal judges to impose downward departures under the federal sentencing guidelines. The discretion would be transferred to prosecutors--a serious violation of the principle of separation of powers, based on a draconian and unjust insistence that the failed federal drug war must never waver from imposing major sentences on minor actors. Posted at 03:37 PM From joelmeulenberg at attbi.com Mon Apr 21 22:21:51 2003 From: joelmeulenberg at attbi.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: All your base classes are belong to us... Message-ID: <3EA4B54F.6090303@attbi.com> Al T. pointed this one that I'd never seen: http://www.planettribes.com/allyourbase/ob/allyourbase2.jpg From joelmeulenberg at attbi.com Mon Apr 21 22:37:36 2003 From: joelmeulenberg at attbi.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Do we need 2 separate GR.pm mailing lists? Message-ID: <3EA4B900.9030502@attbi.com> I was recently spending a little time cleaning up the 2 GR.pm lists (If you're on either of them, you're receiving this email.) and wondered if it's really necessary to have 2 lists? Are any of you deliberately on the "announce" list (grand-rapids-pm-announce: for important GR.pm announcements) but not the other list (grand-rapids-pm-list: more noise, less signal)? I noticed some people were on the non-announce list, but not on the announce list. I'd imagine some of this is due to confusion over the two lists and their purpose. Any feedback is appreciated. +joel From dave at hopasaurus.com Thu Apr 24 21:34:12 2003 From: dave at hopasaurus.com (David Hoppe) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Directions for the meeting tomorrow References: <3EA4B900.9030502@attbi.com> Message-ID: <00c701c30ad3$29733860$652aa8c0@hopperesearch.com> Would some one please send a reminder about the building, floor and any other special directions for the meeting tomorrow. I would like to go and I don't remember how to get there. Thank you David Hoppe From joelmeulenberg at attbi.com Thu Apr 24 22:27:40 2003 From: joelmeulenberg at attbi.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Edgar Codd, database theorist, dies at 79 Message-ID: <3EA8AB2C.6060804@attbi.com> http://news.com.com/2100-1012-997975.html From what I gathered from a guy close to the situation in the 1990's, Codd's second wife, Sharon, used his name to rubber stamp the whole "OLAP" concept being promoted by Arbor Software (makers of the Essbase MOLAP database system). There was this famous "12 Rules of OLAP" whitepaper supposedly co-authored by Codd, but it was really more of a collaboration between Arbor Software (marketing) and his 2nd wife Sharon. Ted's name was (ab)used to lend credence to the whole OLAP idea/marketplace. Of course, I prefer to remember him for conceiving of a model of data that rests squarely on the bedrock of predicate logic and set theory. Decades later, vendors are still working on building a truly relational database management system (as opposed to today's SQL DBMSs) -- e.g.- www.alphora.com and www.requiredtech.com . From joelmeulenberg at attbi.com Thu Apr 24 22:42:39 2003 From: joelmeulenberg at attbi.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:27 2004 Subject: Directions for the meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <00c701c30ad3$29733860$652aa8c0@hopperesearch.com> References: <3EA4B900.9030502@attbi.com> <00c701c30ad3$29733860$652aa8c0@hopperesearch.com> Message-ID: <3EA8AEAF.8050501@attbi.com> David Hoppe wrote: >Would some one please send a reminder about the building, floor and any >other special directions for the meeting tomorrow. I would like to go and I >don't remember how to get there. > >Thank you > >David Hoppe > > > > 1239 East Beltline This map might help a bit: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=6&mapdata=IMy2jjoKxlncE7FXbvYy%2b%2bn9W5jIxy3jqChRXqHqXEBVv5fS%2f9IkTw6ek0yVzRn4Q9bJqejjmQ%2fe%2bgRURgI64YmBMoriIM6x4tHKrVCTMXsDz7WNgrgprfvW4PObacuf79IONFWo4somLFQw9bJiusClPo1Nec%2bgmpQrGM33sRMAxMzidVlMJ%2f%2fim6OjJGj2hCOpt0IjzZVWnrZygwDqDlLRpJ9me2XDL%2bJliOYtclXrXNE%2fX%2fKjgCxI5mmwwVCfB55eVxMI65wEBVe0UjVL%2bfR%2bOvktOMboSSlskHWaDSRrv3cedDJgsAB9H2Oio4FIm2b86bb3DliLVg3dIxffZ94YPQXvPImkQYr5iuW5z7SgRBwSKPuqKmPeVANs755AQy2vJLseWEE%3d I'm not certain, but I'd guess we'll be meeting in the basement of the 1239 building. From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Apr 25 12:18:52 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: Improving GR.PM Message-ID: <1051291132.73a52e00HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> Folks: At the Gr.pm meeting today, we batted around a few ideas that might help bring GR.pm back up to full speed. A few things we discussed: 1) People who present get to pick a book, take it home, and Keep it. This is designed to encourage people to present. :-) 2) Joel M. is going to talk to our librarian and see if we can get O'Reilly to contribute books again. Specifically, we need a free flow of book reviews. I'm expecting a post in the next few weeks about how to write a review and where to send it ... 3) Matt H(anfield) is going to present next month on content management systems in Perl. 4) I have presentations available on software development models (WHY doesn't Matt like waterfall?), iterative models (what is the win-win mode?) Or I could do two or three hours on traditional testing and test strategies. I could also do another hour, easily, on XP and the Planning Game. Extreme Programming (XP) is so big, it's hard to cover in an hour. 5) Albert "Al" Tobey is going to be the host when meetings are at Priority-Health. If you need a whiteboard, projector, etc, he's the man. 6) Sooner or later, we're going to merge the mailing list into one. 7) Or, next month, we could do mongolian barbeque. BD's. .... Please? I guess that's it for now. Please feel free to post your comments. regards, Matt H. From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Apr 25 12:38:18 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: PS: GR.PM Message-ID: <1051292298.50295d60HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I would also be happy to present on Critical Chain, which is a sorta-vaguely-agile-ish way to plan projects: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0884271536/heusseronlead-20/002-3292124-8588816 any interest? Matt H.(eusser) From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Apr 25 12:50:59 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: PS: GR.PM Message-ID: <1051293059.50295d60HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I would also be happy to present on Critical Chain, which is a sorta-vaguely-agile-ish way to plan projects: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0884271536/heusseronlead-20/002-3292124-8588816 any interest? Matt H.(eusser) From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Apr 25 12:53:35 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: PS: GR.PM Message-ID: <1051293215.50295d60HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I would also be happy to present on Critical Chain, which is a sorta-vaguely-agile-ish way to plan projects: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0884271536/heusseronlead-20/002-3292124-8588816 any interest? Matt H.(eusser) From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Apr 25 12:53:38 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: PS: GR.PM Message-ID: <1051293218.50295d60HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I would also be happy to present on Critical Chain, which is a sorta-vaguely-agile-ish way to plan projects: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0884271536/heusseronlead-20/002-3292124-8588816 any interest? Matt H.(eusser) From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Sat Apr 26 08:11:32 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:28 2004 Subject: More XP Stuff Message-ID: <1051362692.1f24e6a0HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> 1) Slipping in Pair Programming: In my experience, when there is a crisis about to brew about a certain piece of the software - that will be hard to develop, is mission critical, and is needed Real Soon Now (TM) - management is more than happy to loan out bob or joe or sally to do a few hours of pair programming, perhaps a day or two. And it will work. And the next time ... 2) We didn't get into Time - Quality - Features - Resources and Steering. Here's a good article on it: http://www.xprogramming.com/xpmag/kings_dinner.htm 3) An hour is a very short time to explain of XP without giving out a few incorrect impressions. There is even an entire web-page about debunking XP misconceptions: http://www.xprogramming.com/xpmag/Misconceptions.htm Here's a big one: What's the deal with "You Ain't Gonna Need it" (YAGNI)? "I say "do the simplest thing that could possibly work". Kent asks "what is the simplest thing that could possible work". Do we really expect that you'll forget everything you know about parsers or EJBs or relational databases? Of course not! We do want you to think about using smaller, less-powerful and simpler tools before bringing out the big guns. Fifty web pages need some kind of organization, I know. But they probably don't require quite the same amount of structure than Amazon needs for their thousands. As technologists, most of us revel in our ability to handle complexity and love to learn the latest new thing. We need a reminder that our job is to produce simple, maintainable programs, Real Soon Now, not to build giant enterprise software to support a few web pages. We say "YAGNI", "you aren't gonna need it", to remind ourselves not to add features to the software just because we happen to be passing through and think of it. We do that because deciding which features we work on is a business decision, a Customer decision in XP, and we want to make sure they get to decide; we often guess wrong about how to do the idea we have; it's usually no harder to put in later, and often easier, so money spent now could be spent later with just as good an effect. So we say YAGNI to remind ourselves of these facts, and to bias ourselves strongly toward simplicity. We trust that we'll use all our knowledge and wisdom to apply simplicity wisely." Matt H.(eusser)