From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Fri Oct 13 09:05:38 2000 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: "Will Write distributed Applications in Perl for Free" Message-ID: <200010131403.KAA08271@happyfunball.pm.org> ... Well, allmost. Next semester, I will be taking Distributed Computing at GVSU, which is traditionally a project course. As such, I am looking for a truely distributed application to write, support, document, extend, etc. (A cgi script that updates a database probably won't cut it. But I'm going to talk to the professor ...) My current ideas include a massively parrell program to calculate physics problems or to calculate fractal images. I don't think writing a distributed denial of service program would be a good idea, unless someone else wanted to write a anti-DDS system and have the two fight it out ... Perferably, I'd like to use Sockets in multiple environments under multiple systems, but pipes and shared memory are a possibility. Other ideas? Does anybody have a MACH system or parellel virutual SUN machine in west michigan I could experiment on? Or a static IP address with no proxy, willing to host a "client" (peer) application overnight a few times? regards, Matt H. From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Fri Oct 13 10:25:06 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: "Will Write distributed Applications in Perl for Free" Message-ID: <20001013152506.5956.qmail@web314.mail.yahoo.com> When I took that class I did a "Java Applet Tracking System" that kept track of how applets were being used (how much time spent in them, how often, by which distinct users, etc.). All you had to do was subclass our special tracked applet class rather than the usual Applet class and you got all this bonus tracking functionality that messaged a tracking server, kept track of all this stuff, etc. If I had to do it again, I'd probably be interesting in doing stuff similar to www.mojonation.com or Freenet or distributed.net or, wait!, I've got it!, could you please fix the scalability problems in Gnutella? : ) Anyway, that's a pretty cool class as I recall. I had Carl Erickson for that class and he did a great job with it. If I think of anything else, I'll be sure to blurt it out... +Joel --- matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > > > ... Well, allmost. > > Next semester, I will be taking Distributed Computing at GVSU, > which > is traditionally a project course. As such, I am looking for a > truely > distributed > application to write, support, document, extend, etc. (A cgi script > that > updates > a database probably won't cut it. But I'm going to talk to the > professor ...) > > My current ideas include a massively parrell program to calculate > physics > problems > or to calculate fractal images. I don't think writing a distributed > denial of > service > program would be a good idea, unless someone else wanted to write a > anti-DDS > system and have the two fight it out ... > > Perferably, I'd like to use Sockets in multiple environments under > multiple > systems, but pipes and shared memory are a possibility. > > Other ideas? Does anybody have a MACH system or parellel virutual > SUN > machine in west michigan I could experiment on? Or a static IP > address with no > proxy, willing to host a "client" (peer) application overnight a few > times? > > > > regards, > > Matt H. > > > > > ===== only the fool would take trouble to verify that his sentence was composed of ten a's, three b's, four c's, four d's, forty-six e's, sixteen f's, four g's, thirteen h's, fifteen i's, two k's, nine l's, four m's, twenty-five n's, twenty-four o's, five p's, sixteen r's, forty-one s's, thirty-seven t's, ten u's, eight v's, eight w's, four x's, eleven y's, twenty-seven commas, twenty-three apostrophes, seven hyphens and, last but not least, a single ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From sdpoling at home.com Fri Oct 13 20:02:33 2000 From: sdpoling at home.com (Steve Poling) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: "Will Write distributed Applications in Perl for Free" In-Reply-To: <20001013152506.5956.qmail@web314.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c0357a$6f68df40$0600a8c0@atlas.edu> Imagine the following scenario, you have a buncha computers that are connected via ethernet, and you have a relatively narrow bandwidth connection to the world. Use the locally connected machines to collaborate upon a data compression task, maybe Wavelet compression. Then send the compressed bits across the narrow bandwidth connection. What kind of data do I have in mind? audio, and then for bonus points: video. Why? So, we could start WPERL an internet broadcasting station. and make zillions selling advertising. Yes, WPERL.com is available. smiles and cheers, steve >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org >[mailto:owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Joel Meulenberg >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 11:25 AM >To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org >Subject: Re: "Will Write distributed Applications in Perl for Free" > > >When I took that class I did a "Java Applet Tracking System" that kept >track of how applets were being used (how much time spent in them, how >often, by which distinct users, etc.). All you had to do was subclass >our special tracked applet class rather than the usual Applet class and >you got all this bonus tracking functionality that messaged a tracking >server, kept track of all this stuff, etc. > >If I had to do it again, I'd probably be interesting in doing stuff >similar to www.mojonation.com or Freenet or distributed.net or, wait!, >I've got it!, could you please fix the scalability problems in >Gnutella? : ) > >Anyway, that's a pretty cool class as I recall. I had Carl Erickson >for that class and he did a great job with it. > >If I think of anything else, I'll be sure to blurt it out... > >+Joel > >--- matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: >> >> >> ... Well, allmost. >> >> Next semester, I will be taking Distributed Computing at GVSU, >> which >> is traditionally a project course. As such, I am looking for a >> truely >> distributed >> application to write, support, document, extend, etc. (A cgi script >> that >> updates >> a database probably won't cut it. But I'm going to talk to the >> professor ...) >> >> My current ideas include a massively parrell program to calculate >> physics >> problems >> or to calculate fractal images. I don't think writing a distributed >> denial of >> service >> program would be a good idea, unless someone else wanted to write a >> anti-DDS >> system and have the two fight it out ... >> >> Perferably, I'd like to use Sockets in multiple environments under >> multiple >> systems, but pipes and shared memory are a possibility. >> >> Other ideas? Does anybody have a MACH system or parellel virutual >> SUN >> machine in west michigan I could experiment on? Or a static IP >> address with no >> proxy, willing to host a "client" (peer) application overnight a few >> times? >> >> >> >> regards, >> >> Matt H. >> >> >> >> >> > > >===== >only the fool would take trouble to verify that his sentence was >composed of ten a's, three b's, four c's, four d's, forty-six e's, >sixteen f's, four g's, thirteen h's, fifteen i's, two k's, nine l's, >four m's, twenty-five n's, twenty-four o's, five p's, sixteen r's, >forty-one s's, thirty-seven t's, ten u's, eight v's, eight w's, four >x's, eleven y's, twenty-seven commas, twenty-three apostrophes, seven >hyphens and, last but not least, a single ! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Thu Oct 19 15:42:07 2000 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: Bits & Pieces Message-ID: <200010192041.QAA09608@happyfunball.pm.org> Folks - 1) Would anyone be interested in a tutorial of RPC (Remote Procedure Call) with Perl? If I can ever get my current project to work, I might be able to present it at a GR.pm meeting in November or so ... 2) Does anyone remember about 6 months ago, we discussed the idea of a "Heusser Anti-Spam" program similar to "Norton Anti-Virus", written in Perl and used by the ISP? It's pretty darn close to happening. The only missing link is the automatic download of filters. Check it out on activestate: http://www.activestate.com/Products/PerlMx/index.html 3) ActiveState Perl build 618 is out. Ho-Hum. Any guesses as to when Visual Perl will come out? or Perl.Net? I'm practically drooling ... regards, Matt H. From ed at pcr7.pcr.com Thu Oct 19 17:38:50 2000 From: ed at pcr7.pcr.com (Ed Eddington) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: G-R.pm site updated Message-ID: <01C039FB.D3F1FD40@uranus.pcr.com> The G-R.pm website has finally been updated! Well, almost. All of the information should be current except the ever growing lending library. However, MANY new books have been added (all categories: Perl, Java, Oracle...). Who they are checked out to is probably out of date. But, feel free to browse the book list! (Hint: the newer books are at the bottom of each section.) Remember the next meeting is next Friday October 27. Special note: November's default meeting date falls the day after Thanksgiving. This might should change. Ed Eddington From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Fri Oct 20 12:26:06 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: Bits and Pieces .. Message-ID: <20001020172606.29392.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com> Forgot to CC the list... --- Joel Meulenberg wrote: > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: Joel Meulenberg > Reply-to: joelmeulenberg@home.com > Subject: Re: Bits and Pieces .. > To: matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com, joelm@blueribbon.com > > Hi Matt! > > I, for one, would love to hear about RPC via Perl. > Steve Johnson has volunteered to do a presentation on his "Little > Brother" network monitoring tool this month. > Steve Poling sounds like he'll be ready for a Crypto presentation > next > month. > If you could be ready as a backup for November and the scheduled > presenter for December - that would be great!! > > I'll be sending out an announcement for the meeting next week soon - > as > soon as I verify the meeting room, etc. > > Thanks for the pointer on PerlMx - this is definitely of interest to > me. > > Thanks for all the news, etc. > > +Joel > > --- matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > > Folks - > > > > 1) Would anyone be interested in a tutorial of RPC (Remote > Procedure > > Call) > > with Perl? If I can ever get my current project to work, I might > be > > able to > > present it at a GR.pm meeting in November or so ... > > > > 2) Does anyone remember about 6 months ago, we discussed the idea > of > > a > > "Heusser Anti-Spam" program similar to "Norton Anti-Virus", written > > in Perl and > > used by the ISP? > > > > It's pretty darn close to happening. The only missing link is > the > > automatic > > download of filters. Check it out on activestate: > > > > http://www.activestate.com/Products/PerlMx/index.html > > > > 3) ActiveState Perl build 618 is out. Ho-Hum. Any guesses as to > > when > > ActivePerl will come out? or Perl.Net? I'm practically drooling > ... > > > > regards, > > > > Matt H. > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > only the fool would take trouble to verify that his sentence was > composed of ten a's, three b's, four c's, four d's, forty-six e's, > sixteen f's, four g's, thirteen h's, fifteen i's, two k's, nine l's, > four m's, twenty-five n's, twenty-four o's, five p's, sixteen r's, > forty-one s's, thirty-seven t's, ten u's, eight v's, eight w's, four > x's, eleven y's, twenty-seven commas, twenty-three apostrophes, seven > hyphens and, last but not least, a single ! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Tue Oct 24 23:23:08 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: Fwd: BOUNCE grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission from [olowola2@msu.edu] Message-ID: <20001025042308.22551.qmail@web311.mail.yahoo.com> This bounced, so I'm forwarding it to the list - see message below... (Femi, somehow your email addr on the disucssion list was olowola2@pilot.msu.edu rather than olowola2@msu.edu and Majordomo is configured to reject postings from any email addr that's not on the list.) --- owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org wrote: > From: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:33:56 -0400 (EDT) > To: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: BOUNCE grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission > from [olowola2@msu.edu] > > From joelm@bigfoot.com Tue Oct 24 13:33:54 2000 > Received: from pilot17.cl.msu.edu (pilot17.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.37]) > by happyfunball.pm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03756 > for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 > 13:33:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: olowola2@msu.edu > Received: from msu.edu (loopback [127.0.0.1]) > by pilot17.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e9OHdA639456 > for grand-rapids-pm-list@hfb.pm.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:39:18 -0400 > Message-Id: <200010241739.e9OHdA639456@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:39:09 EDT > To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: More questions > X-Mailer: TWIG 2.3.0 > > I know I know you would think that last response would've been > enough.... > But for those of us who won't be able to attend (got to work), and > are still > interested is someone going to post the meeting topics on the site? > > If so that would be great. thanks a ton > > femi > ps. > by-the-way how many gm perl monger members? > > ===== only the fool would take trouble to verify that his sentence was composed of ten a's, three b's, four c's, four d's, forty-six e's, sixteen f's, four g's, thirteen h's, fifteen i's, two k's, nine l's, four m's, twenty-five n's, twenty-four o's, five p's, sixteen r's, forty-one s's, thirty-seven t's, ten u's, eight v's, eight w's, four x's, eleven y's, twenty-seven commas, twenty-three apostrophes, seven hyphens and, last but not least, a single ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Tue Oct 24 23:32:52 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: More questions Message-ID: <20001025043252.25512.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com> --- owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org wrote: > From joelm@bigfoot.com Tue Oct 24 13:33:54 2000 > Received: from pilot17.cl.msu.edu (pilot17.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.37]) > by happyfunball.pm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03756 > for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 > 13:33:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: olowola2@msu.edu > Received: from msu.edu (loopback [127.0.0.1]) > by pilot17.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e9OHdA639456 > for grand-rapids-pm-list@hfb.pm.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:39:18 -0400 > Message-Id: <200010241739.e9OHdA639456@pilot17.cl.msu.edu> > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:39:09 EDT > To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: More questions > X-Mailer: TWIG 2.3.0 > > I know I know you would think that last response would've been > enough.... > But for those of us who won't be able to attend (got to work), and > are still > interested is someone going to post the meeting topics on the site? Thanks for the friendly reminder. : ) Just so you don't have to wait for a web site update, the planned presentation for next month is on "Crypto" by Steve Poling (more details later). As for what comes next, things are somewhat up in the air, but it sounds like Matt Heusser may be willing to teach us a little about doing RPC (Remote Procedure Calls) with Perl. > If so that would be great. thanks a ton > > femi > ps. > by-the-way how many gm perl monger members? I just counted 47 email addresses on the discussion list. The turnout for meetings is typically in the 12-20 range. +Joel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Wed Oct 25 10:37:45 2000 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: Of perl meetings & Lansing Message-ID: <200010251610.MAA07840@happyfunball.pm.org> Earlier, JoelM forwarded an email that said something like this: > I know I know you would think that last response would've been > enough... But for those of us who won't be able to attend >(got to work), and are still interested Perl Mongers is a professional development issue. Missing 1 hour of work makes you more productive. It's worth fighting for. If you can't get that one hour, you might want to think of firing your boss and finding a new one. If you're in Lansing (I noticed the MSU address), why not found a Lansing.PM group yourself? It's not a hard thing to do. Email Brian D Foy, go out to lunch with a bunch of colleges, email the folks at o'Reilly, and start building a web page/lending library. Did I mention the FREE BOOKS? regards, Matthew Heusser From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Fri Oct 27 11:57:39 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: How to Cause Windows 98 (and NT?) to Release DHCP Lease Info at Shutdown Message-ID: <20001027165739.29289.qmail@web312.mail.yahoo.com> At the meeting today, this matter came up when Steve Johnson's laptop was still using the info leased from his work DHCP server rather than requesting new info from the DHCP server at Priority Health when he connected to Priority's network. Rick Siner provided the following link that describes a registry mod to cause Windows 98 (for sure) and perhaps other versions of Windows to automatically do a DHCP release at shutdown time: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/0/35.ASP BTW, Steve's presentation was great, but, unfortunately, many people had other engagements so the turnout was quite light (just 7 of us). Next month's meeting will be on December 1st (rather than November 24th) and the topic will be "Crypto" - presented by Steve Poling. It should be pretty interesting. See you there! +Joel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Mon Oct 30 14:00:29 2000 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:08 2004 Subject: VisualPerl Part IV: A New Hope Message-ID: <200010302004.PAA28320@happyfunball.pm.org> I just got this from the guys at ActiveState ... it's amazingly microsoftish. ("Our product will be wonderful ... our product will move mountains, but don't dare ask us when it will ship ...") ---------------------- Forwarded by Matthew Heusser/C-I-G on 10/30/2000 03:01 PM --------------------------- Hello, Welcome to the ActiveState Visual Perl mailing list. I'm writing because you've expressed interest in our Visual Perl(tm) plug-in for VisualStudio.NET*. We're shipping beta versions of the VS.NET plug-ins in the near future and thought you'd like to be kept informed of current developments. 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