From perl at minty.org Fri Sep 3 04:50:47 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:50:47 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: HTML/CSS monkey Message-ID: <20100903115047.GM29178@minty.org> Hopefully you'll forgive me spamming the list with this. The Reg : we're after an HTML / CSS / Javascript Dev http://reg.cx/1KxC Do please forward as you see fit. ps. anyone know of any local, client side groups? From fontani at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 06:03:50 2010 From: fontani at gmail.com (Marco Fontani) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 14:03:50 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Glasgow.pm resurrecting Message-ID: Hello fellow Perl Mongers, I am afraid I did not manage to see you at the last scheduled social gathering of Edinburgh.pm. That said, I have some news that I hope will interest at least some of you. The first, as the subject mentions, is that I'm trying to resurrect Glasgow.pm. We have a mailing list and a temporary website at http://glasgow.darkpan.com (awaiting the glasgow.pm.org redirection). We're already in ~5/6 people, and none of them is known for biting people yet ;) I was wondering if any of you would be able to forward the above information to any people you know in the Glasgow area who may be interested in joining the Perl Mongers group here, or maybe (just maybe!) some of you would also want to join our gatherings. We aim to meet on the second week of the month, so as to not co-incide with the Edinburgh.pm meeting: one less excuse for any of you to come to our meetings! Furthermore, I'm aiming to setup the group as more of a technical gathering (talks, lightning talks and the like) rather than a social one: I think it complements well the social gatherings of Edinburgh.pm and would provide both kinds of Perl Mongers activities in the (southern) Scotland area. The company I work for has promised to provide the venue for the Glasgow.pm meetings, and I'm just waiting on some technicalities before posting the full details on the site. I'm organising a first non-technical meeting for next Thursday 2010-09-09 in Glasgow. The venue has not yet been chosen, but I'll alert you as soon as I know; it will probably be nearby the Queen St/Central station area. The aim of this next meeting is to have a chat, know each other, and discuss who's going to bring which talks to the next technical gathering (probably the second Thursday of October), and on which subjects. I'm sure attending / talking at these technical meetings would be a good preparation for that Perl/dynamic languages conferences you're trying to get sorted for next year :) Please do join the mailing list, and contact us / myself for any further questions. Now for the second bit, still regarding the Perl/dynamic languages conference: I may have found a sponsor for it, but I do not know what needs sponsored, how much (???) needs sponsored, and the like. Could those of you who have that information please contact me off-line and we can start discussing this? Thanks for reading this far ;) Hope to see you all soon! Best regards, -- Marco Fontani From perl at minty.org Fri Sep 3 07:03:57 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:03:57 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Glasgow.pm resurrecting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100903140357.GB21682@minty.org> On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 02:03:50PM +0100, Marco Fontani wrote: > The first, as the subject mentions, is that I'm trying to resurrect Glasgow.pm. > > We have a mailing list and a temporary website at > http://glasgow.darkpan.com (awaiting the glasgow.pm.org redirection). > > We're already in ~5/6 people, and none of them is known for biting people yet ;) Brilliant :) > I'm organising a first non-technical meeting for next Thursday > 2010-09-09 in Glasgow. The venue has not yet been chosen, but I'll > alert you as soon as I know; it will probably be nearby the Queen > St/Central station area. Turns out it would be ideal for me to come to Glasgow that evening. So unless plans change -- I'll see you there. If anyone from Edinburgh fancies the trip over by train and wants to meet up for the journey over ... From miles at assyrian.org.uk Fri Sep 3 07:23:33 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:23:33 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Glasgow.pm resurrecting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100903142333.GK14157@assyrian.org.uk> On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 02:03:50PM +0100, Marco Fontani wrote: > The first, as the subject mentions, is that I'm trying to resurrect > Glasgow.pm. Excellent news! Particularly in light of my upcoming move back to Glasgow. Unfortunately I'm on holiday next week, but I look forward to attending October's meeting :-) Miles -- As soon as you think "Nyah Nyah I'm more mature than you," it doesn't count. -- Lauren Susoeff From fontani at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 05:59:58 2010 From: fontani at gmail.com (Marco Fontani) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:59:58 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Glasgow.pm social meet Thursday 2010-09-09 Message-ID: Hi all, (excuse crosspost, just in case somebody from Edinburgh wanted to come and isn't subscribed yet; I'll cease and desist crossposting after this) I've just booked the venue for our first social meeting this Thursday 2010-09-09. It's booked under my name (Marco) if you arrive there before I do. The Pot Still ( http://www.thepotstill.co.uk/ ) in 154 Hope Street, quite near both Queen St. and Central stations. Google Maps link: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=the+pot+still&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&ie=UTF8&hq=the+pot+still&hnear=&radius=15000&ll=55.862675,-4.256344&spn=0.004925,0.009645&z=17&iwloc=A The website http://glasgow.darkpan.com/ already has all the info, including mailing list subscription information. Looking forward to seeing you on Thursday, 5:30pm onwards. -marco- From alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 05:30:22 2010 From: alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com (Alex Brelsfoard) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:30:22 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Send UTF8 info across Socket connection Message-ID: Hi All, I have an issue that is plaguing me at the moment. I have perl scripts that are reading in/creating string content in UTF8 encoding, and then sending that data across a socket connection (using IO::Socket::INET), in a $socket->send($string,0) format. But something in that send command garbles the string so that the special characters (mainly accented characters) come out all messed up at the other end. Basically, I'm thinking that the send command needs to be told to send the string in UTF8 encoding. But I do not know how to do that. I've tried adding use encoding 'utf8'; to my script, but no good (no change). Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at minty.org Thu Sep 9 05:40:09 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Send UTF8 info across Socket connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100909124009.GI21682@minty.org> On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 01:30:22PM +0100, Alex Brelsfoard wrote: > I have perl scripts that are reading in/creating string content in UTF8 > encoding, and then sending that data across a socket connection (using > IO::Socket::INET), in a $socket->send($string,0) format. I feel your pain. Not sure if this will help or not: http://www.ahinea.com/en/tech/perl-unicode-struggle.html My only other offering is http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Devel::Peek It can be handy figuring out where things are getting garbled, as it tells you what Perl thinks is in your variables at a given point in code. From fontani at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 05:42:48 2010 From: fontani at gmail.com (Marco Fontani) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:42:48 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Send UTF8 info across Socket connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [did not copy the list in, apologies] > I have perl scripts that are reading in/creating string content in UTF8 > encoding, and then sending that data across a socket connection (using > IO::Socket::INET), in a $socket->send($string,0) format. IO::Socket::INET uses the usual "send()" behind the scenes. Perldoc explains some intricacies between sending bytes or characters: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/send.html; Some good stuff is also on http://perldoc.perl.org/perlunicode.html By default all sockets operate on bytes, but for example if the socket has been changed using binmode() to operate with the :encoding(utf8) I/O layer (see open, or the open pragma, open), the I/O will operate on UTF-8 encoded Unicode characters, not bytes. So send() expects bytes. If you're giving it characters, it will not do the right thing. To "get bytes from a string of utf8 characters", you can use my utf8::encode($str) if you know $str is utf8. The other side will then receive bytes and if it needs characters it will have to my utf8::decode($received); >From perldoc utf8: # utf8::encode($string); # "\x{100}" becomes "\xc4\x80" # that is, utf8 string to bytes # utf8::decode($string); # "\xc4\x80" becomes "\x{100}" # that is, bytes to utf8 string Try the above, and let me know how it goes ;) Unicode is easy*!!! Just my 2 cents, -marco- * to get wrong From alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 08:19:36 2010 From: alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com (Alex Brelsfoard) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Send UTF8 info across Socket connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Murray and Marco. Murray, I'd already checked out that very same link, but thanks. It is a handy one. But I'd never used Devel::Peek before. I'll definitely be playing with that one. Marco, Thanks for the detailed explanation of things. Really, it helped me understand a few things further in depth You'll both love what it turned out to be...... I was double-encoding the strings. Since I receive data in many formats, I convert them all into UTF8, and then send the data through a socket to another server. Once at the other end I was trying to encode them again.... sadly this made them look a LOT like they would had they never been cleaned up in the first place. Hence my thinking that the encoding-correction wasn't working. I had forgotten that I had tried to clean up the encoding at both ends... UGH.... Many thanks for your help. At least I DID still learn something. --Alex Marco Fontani wrote: > > So send() expects bytes. If you're giving it characters, it will not > do the right thing. > To "get bytes from a string of utf8 characters", you can use my > utf8::encode($str) if you know $str is utf8. > > The other side will then receive bytes and if it needs characters it > will have to my utf8::decode($received); > > From perldoc utf8: > # utf8::encode($string); > # "\x{100}" becomes "\xc4\x80" > # that is, utf8 string to bytes > # utf8::decode($string); # "\xc4\x80" becomes "\x{100}" # that is, > bytes to utf8 string > > Try the above, and let me know how it goes ;) > > Unicode is easy*!!! > > Just my 2 cents, > -marco- > > * to get wrong > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nick From miles at assyrian.org.uk Wed Sep 15 05:06:43 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:06:43 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] DaliBug post Message-ID: <20100915120643.GK14157@assyrian.org.uk> If anyone's interested, I've written up the gory details of the DaliBug fiasco here: http://pozorvlak.livejournal.com/150891.html Miles -- Colourless green ideas sleep furiously. -- Noam Chomsky From alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 07:28:15 2010 From: alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com (Alex Brelsfoard) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:28:15 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] WWW::Curl::Easy Message-ID: Hi All, Does anyone have any experience with WWW::Curl:Easy? I'm needing to convert some code that currently uses HTTP::Request and LWP::UserAgent into WWW::Curl::Easy code. I've got most of it working, there just one case that is not. I need to send content along with this particular query. Here is what I need to convert to WWW::Mechanize: ---------------------- CODE ---------------------- my $req = new HTTP::Request POST => $url; $req->content_type("text/xml"); $req->header("Authorization", "Basic ".$self->{'config'}->{'creds_64'}); $req->header("Cookie", $self->{'config'}{'seller_cookies'}); $req->header("FileFormat", "TabDelimited"); $req->header("BatchID", "Y"); $req->content($content); my $response = $self->{'ua'}->request($req); ---------------------- /CODE ---------------------- That code works perfectly fine. This is what I have so far for WWW::Curl::Easy: ---------------------- CODE ---------------------- my @headers = ('Content-Type: text/xml', 'Authorization: Basic '.$self->{'config'}->{$self->{'locale'}}->{'seller_creds_64'}, 'Cookie: '.$self->{'config'}{'seller_cookies'}, 'FileFormat: TabDelimited', 'BatchID: Y' ); $self->{'curl'} = new WWW::Curl::Easy; $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_HEADER,0); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_HTTPHEADER,\@headers); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_POST, 1); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $content); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_URL, $url); open (my $response_handle, ">", \$response_body); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_WRITEDATA,$response_handle); my $retcode = $self->{'curl'}->perform; ---------------------- /CODE ---------------------- But I'm getting a message back saying that it's not seeing the added $content properly/at all. I'm very new to WWW::Curl::Easy and so could use any help. As I said before, I have standard page curls working perfectly fine, including ones where I send the extra header information. It's just when I try to send extra $content. I think this content might need to be sent as an attachment somehow.... Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out. --Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com Tue Sep 21 07:28:15 2010 From: alex.brelsfoard at gmail.com (Alex Brelsfoard) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:28:15 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] WWW::Curl::Easy Message-ID: Hi All, Does anyone have any experience with WWW::Curl:Easy? I'm needing to convert some code that currently uses HTTP::Request and LWP::UserAgent into WWW::Curl::Easy code. I've got most of it working, there just one case that is not. I need to send content along with this particular query. Here is what I need to convert to WWW::Mechanize: ---------------------- CODE ---------------------- my $req = new HTTP::Request POST => $url; $req->content_type("text/xml"); $req->header("Authorization", "Basic ".$self->{'config'}->{'creds_64'}); $req->header("Cookie", $self->{'config'}{'seller_cookies'}); $req->header("FileFormat", "TabDelimited"); $req->header("BatchID", "Y"); $req->content($content); my $response = $self->{'ua'}->request($req); ---------------------- /CODE ---------------------- That code works perfectly fine. This is what I have so far for WWW::Curl::Easy: ---------------------- CODE ---------------------- my @headers = ('Content-Type: text/xml', 'Authorization: Basic '.$self->{'config'}->{$self->{'locale'}}->{'seller_creds_64'}, 'Cookie: '.$self->{'config'}{'seller_cookies'}, 'FileFormat: TabDelimited', 'BatchID: Y' ); $self->{'curl'} = new WWW::Curl::Easy; $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_HEADER,0); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_HTTPHEADER,\@headers); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_POST, 1); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $content); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_URL, $url); open (my $response_handle, ">", \$response_body); $self->{'curl'}->setopt(CURLOPT_WRITEDATA,$response_handle); my $retcode = $self->{'curl'}->perform; ---------------------- /CODE ---------------------- But I'm getting a message back saying that it's not seeing the added $content properly/at all. I'm very new to WWW::Curl::Easy and so could use any help. As I said before, I have standard page curls working perfectly fine, including ones where I send the extra header information. It's just when I try to send extra $content. I think this content might need to be sent as an attachment somehow.... Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out. --Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oinksocket at letterboxes.org Tue Sep 21 08:30:58 2010 From: oinksocket at letterboxes.org (Nick) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:30:58 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] WWW::Curl::Easy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C98CFB2.8090304@letterboxes.org> On 21/09/10 15:28, Alex Brelsfoard wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with WWW::Curl:Easy? Nope, sorry. But I do notice, when trying to find out why one wouldn't be perfectly happy with LWP, the manual says: > There is a new module, http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?WWW::Curl::Simple, > which wraps this module into a more Perlish and userfriendly package. N From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 03:29:48 2010 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:29:48 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 4th Thursday Message-ID: Anyone coming tonight? I should be at the Cumberland around 6.15 or so. I'm considering an idea to compile statically typed portions of a Perl script using a separate compiler and link them back into the main script with XS or Swig. Me being me, I'd write the compiler in Haskell. Anyone interested? Wim From cyocum at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 03:43:41 2010 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:43:41 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 4th Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C9B2F5D.2090309@gmail.com> Hi Wim, I should be there. I would definitely be interested in your code. I need to learn Haskell soon because of a problem with pandoc. Chris On 23/09/10 11:29, Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > Anyone coming tonight? I should be at the Cumberland around 6.15 or so. > > I'm considering an idea to compile statically typed portions of a Perl > script using a separate compiler and link them back into the main > script with XS or Swig. Me being me, I'd write the compiler in > Haskell. Anyone interested? > > Wim > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Miles -- Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry on as if nothing had happened. -- Winston Churchill From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Sep 23 07:42:48 2010 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:42:48 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 4th Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > Anyone coming tonight? I should be at the Cumberland around 6.15 or so. I'll be there from about 7pm. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From robrwo at gmail.com Fri Sep 24 07:26:11 2010 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:26:11 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 4th Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C9CB503.6040407@gmail.com> On 23/09/10 11:29 Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > Anyone coming tonight? I should be at the Cumberland around 6.15 or so. Couldn't make it, alas. > I'm considering an idea to compile statically typed portions of a Perl > script using a separate compiler and link them back into the main > script with XS or Swig. Me being me, I'd write the compiler in > Haskell. Anyone interested? Sounds very interesting. On a related note: somewhere on CPAN is/was a patch to Perl to add static types in lexical scope. Rob From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Mon Sep 27 10:52:11 2010 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:52:11 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting Message-ID: So, this month seems to be heresy month. Since our esteemed Heretic General has been busy moving house (and city! boo!) this week, I thought a note about the meeting might be in order. Chris has suggested Montpelier's in Bruntsfield: http://www.montpeliersedinburgh.co.uk/ Serves decent food; moderate selection of beers, bottled and on tap; and I think they have cheap cocktails at happy hour. I like the place, and it's only about five minutes' walk from my house, so consider this a vote in favour. Any other thoughts? Oh, and we may also have a Perl monger visiting us from sunny (rainy) Portland, Oregon. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From oinksocket at letterboxes.org Tue Sep 28 03:01:59 2010 From: oinksocket at letterboxes.org (Nick) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:01:59 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Techmeetup Calendar Message-ID: <4CA1BD17.5000000@letterboxes.org> I just noticed the location in the description for the regular E.pm meet-up was still saying the Guildford Arms, so I took the liberty of correcting it to the Cumberland Bar (the location field had already been corrected). Likewise the Heretics Meetup, which said the Jeykll & Hyde. Since there doesn't seem to be a fixed location I just put "Various Locations" and "check the list for details". http://techmeetup.co.uk/calendar/ Does anyone else here have access permissions, or is it just me? N From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Sep 29 05:15:48 2010 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:15:48 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Aaron Crane wrote: > Montpelier's in Bruntsfield > Any other thoughts? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative suggestion. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From perl at minty.org Wed Sep 29 05:18:11 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:18:11 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100929121811.GP19993@minty.org> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 01:15:48PM +0100, Aaron Crane wrote: > Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Sorry, cannot heretic this month :( From miles at assyrian.org.uk Wed Sep 29 06:03:36 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:03:36 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100929130336.GG28559@assyrian.org.uk> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 01:15:48PM +0100, Aaron Crane wrote: > Aaron Crane wrote: > > Montpelier's in Bruntsfield > > Any other thoughts? > > Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Sorry, been moving house. We're /almost/ unpacked now. Montpelier's sounds fine to me. Miles PS Housewarming on the 9th Oct! -- The perfect programming language is mathematics, but that only runs on mathematicians. -- Cale, on #haskell From robrwo at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 06:09:12 2010 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:09:12 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: > Aaron Crane wrote: >> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield >> Any other thoughts? > > Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. > I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative suggestion. From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 06:21:45 2010 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:21:45 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P Chris On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: >> Aaron Crane wrote: >>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield >>> Any other thoughts? >> >> Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? > > I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. > >> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative >> suggestion. > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But I'm ok with it. >> >>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative >>> suggestion. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 06:35:04 2010 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:35:04 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4CA34088.7020005@gmail.com> Tomorrow, I believe. Chris On 29/09/10 14:25, Hakim Cassimally wrote: > When is the heretics meet again? > > osf' > > On 29 September 2010 14:21, Chris Yocum wrote: >> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P >> >> Chris >> >> >> On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >>> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: >>>> Aaron Crane wrote: >>>>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield >>>>> Any other thoughts? >>>> >>>> Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? >>> >>> I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. >>> >>>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative >>>> suggestion. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 13:50:13 2010 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:50:13 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I have reserved a table for ten at Montpilliers in Brunsfield for 6:30 pm tomorrow evening. It is under my last name Yocum. Hope to see you all there! Chris On 29/09/10 14:25, Hakim Cassimally wrote: On 29/09/10 14:35, Chris Yocum wrote: > Tomorrow, I believe. > > Chris > > On 29/09/10 14:25, Hakim Cassimally wrote: >> When is the heretics meet again? >> >> osf' >> >> On 29 September 2010 14:21, Chris Yocum wrote: >>> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >>>> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: >>>>> Aaron Crane wrote: >>>>>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield >>>>>> Any other thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? >>>> >>>> I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. >>>> >>>>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative >>>>> suggestion. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >>>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > When is the heretics meet again? > > osf' > > On 29 September 2010 14:21, Chris Yocum wrote: >> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P >> >> Chris >> >> >> On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >>> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: >>>> Aaron Crane ?wrote: >>>>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield >>>>> Any other thoughts? >>>> >>>> Anyone? ?Anyone? ?Bueller? >>> >>> I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. >>> >>>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative >>>> suggestion. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyjpoUACgkQTsMNflSecIal7gCeOPllfhZ/7JpZmLgEzDL2XQoz UmIAmwQ5614Fa6fwKJrZRkoIKKdAHJpI =gCZQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From asmith9983 at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 15:14:35 2010 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (A Smith) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:14:35 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris If Yocum is your last name. Is there a list of those you have used previously ? Dr Yocum, as a linguist, if you meant Surname you should have said that, but sloppy syntax is a Perl thing, where it automagically tries to convert things into the appropriate type. Haskell and OCAML wouldn't let you even compile,far less run the code. It would be a strange bar that would let under the name Chris! -- Andrew On 29 September 2010 21:50, Chris Yocum wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ok, I have reserved a table for ten at Montpilliers in Brunsfield for > 6:30 pm tomorrow evening. It is under my last name Yocum. Hope to see > you all there! > > Chris > > On 29/09/10 14:25, Hakim Cassimally wrote: > > > On 29/09/10 14:35, Chris Yocum wrote: > > Tomorrow, I believe. > > > > Chris > > > > On 29/09/10 14:25, Hakim Cassimally wrote: > >> When is the heretics meet again? > >> > >> osf' > >> > >> On 29 September 2010 14:21, Chris Yocum wrote: > >>> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > >>>> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: > >>>>> Aaron Crane wrote: > >>>>>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield > >>>>>> Any other thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>> Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? > >>>> > >>>> I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. > >>>> > >>>>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative > >>>>> suggestion. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list > >>>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list > >>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list > >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > > When is the heretics meet again? > > > > osf' > > > > On 29 September 2010 14:21, Chris Yocum wrote: > >> Yep, sounds good to me since I suggested it :P > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> On 29/09/10 14:09, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > >>> On 29/09/10 13:15 Aaron Crane wrote: > >>>> Aaron Crane ?wrote: > >>>>> Montpelier's in Bruntsfield > >>>>> Any other thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> Anyone? ?Anyone? ?Bueller? > >>> > >>> I've not tried it. But I'm ok with it. > >>> > >>>> I'm not dead set on Montpelier's, if anyone has an alternative > >>>> suggestion. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Edinburgh-pm mailing list > >>> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list > >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkyjpoUACgkQTsMNflSecIal7gCeOPllfhZ/7JpZmLgEzDL2XQoz > UmIAmwQ5614Fa6fwKJrZRkoIKKdAHJpI > =gCZQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Sep 30 03:47:02 2010 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:47:02 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris Yocum wrote: > Ok, I have reserved a table for ten at Montpilliers in Brunsfield for > 6:30 pm [Thursday] evening. Excellent, thanks. I'll be along at 7pm ish, I think. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From hakim.cassimally at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 04:27:22 2010 From: hakim.cassimally at gmail.com (Hakim Cassimally) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:27:22 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Heretical meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4CA33A78.6090803@gmail.com> <4CA33D69.6010300@gmail.com> <4CA3A685.7030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 29 September 2010 23:14, A Smith wrote: > If Yocum is your last name. Is there a list? of those? you have used > previously ? Heh. > Dr Yocum, as a linguist, if you meant Surname you should have said that, but > sloppy syntax is a Perl thing, This has nothing to do with syntax though, does it? "Last name" is a fairly common phrase that is mostly equivalent to "surname", (and also, arguably, more understood by non-native speakers of English). osf'