From perl at minty.org Mon Jan 18 06:08:26 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:08:26 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie Message-ID: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> Dear Footie fans, An appeal for help - my knowledge of football can roughly be summed up as "there is a ball and two sides, right?". We have friends visiting 8-10th April (10th being a saturday). They are most keen to visit a football match. Glasgow / Dundee / Edinburgh or similar venues, preferably something in the top league (or top - 1). Is it just "first division" up here? I don't know much, but they know even less about how we'd get tickets. So .. any pointers? From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Jan 18 06:26:20 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:26:20 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:08:26PM +0000 References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> Message-ID: <20100118142620.D1673@assyrian.org.uk> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:08:26PM +0000, Murray wrote: > An appeal for help - my knowledge of football can roughly be summed up > as "there is a ball and two sides, right?". Mine mostly comes from the Billy the Fish strip in Viz, but I can use Google :-) There's a Scottish Premier League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Premier_League). Here's a list of 2010 fixtures: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/fixtures/default.stm I'd imagine that tickets are (a) as rare as hen's teeth, (b) as expensive as a gold sandwich, though. Good luck! Miles -- Gould... what a crap person. -- Owen O'Rourke From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 06:26:56 2010 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:26:56 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> Message-ID: Hi Murray, Fixtures that Saturday include; Partick Thistle v Dundee (in Glasgow) Celtic v Motherwell (in Glasgow) Dundee Utd v Rangers (in Dundee) Hearts v Kilmarnock (in Edinburgh) All kick off at 3pm. The top league here is the Scottish Premier League, followed by Division One. The Partick game is Div 1, the others listed above are Premier games. Regarding tickets for the above, you should be able to buy tickets directly from the home side club in advance without too much trouble. Take a trip to each web site, there should be details there on how to buy. For atmosphere and a one-off experience I would recommend the Celtic/Motherwell game. I have no vested interests in any of the teams :-) Cheers Rory 2010/1/18 Murray : > Dear Footie fans, > > An appeal for help - my knowledge of football can roughly be summed up > as "there is a ball and two sides, right?". > > We have friends visiting 8-10th April (10th being a saturday). ?They are > most keen to visit a football match. ?Glasgow / Dundee / Edinburgh or > similar venues, preferably something in the top league (or top - 1). ?Is > it just "first division" up here? > > I don't know much, but they know even less about how we'd get tickets. > > So .. any pointers? > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From asmith9983 at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 06:36:11 2010 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (A Smith) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:36:11 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> Message-ID: <1e11fb0e1001180636s16239a50g5411e7c2b9df6fa6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Murray I'm no expert either but I have some knowledge. The hierachy of leagues is:- Scottish Premier League(SPL) - comprising teams such as Glasgow Rangers,Celtic,Hearts,Hibernian Division One - comprising Dunfermline,Inverness Caledonian Thistle Division Two - not very entertaining play by less skilled players on often mudbath pitches Division Three - As div 2 but a more depressing 90 minutes.( 2 x 45 minute halves) SPL is all seated, maybe div 1. For a fixture tickets and costs call one of the clubs of the match you intend to go to. I know the Dunfermline Chairman and I think a ticket there is ?19/game, so by the time you add parking, the pub and maybe a meal, and possible getting drooked, it adds up to an expensive afternoon. BTW Remember the *Offside* rule. I played for the local Boys Brigade where I lived, only because there were only eleven boys in the club. Also, I had customers who were shirt sponsors to Dunfermline and St Johnstone. As well as the leagues, there is the knock-out Scottish Cup. You may not be able to get match dates so far ahead. Select a club, and call their office. Report back. -- Andrew http://www.soccerassociation.com/12/0910/index1.htm shows the teams and 2010/1/18 Murray > Dear Footie fans, > > An appeal for help - my knowledge of football can roughly be summed up > as "there is a ball and two sides, right?". > > We have friends visiting 8-10th April (10th being a saturday). They are > most keen to visit a football match. Glasgow / Dundee / Edinburgh or > similar venues, preferably something in the top league (or top - 1). Is > it just "first division" up here? > > I don't know much, but they know even less about how we'd get tickets. > > So .. any pointers? > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 06:40:42 2010 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:40:42 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <20100118142620.D1673@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> <20100118142620.D1673@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: 2010/1/18 Miles Gould : > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:08:26PM +0000, Murray wrote: [snip] > I'd imagine that tickets are (a) as rare as hen's teeth, (b) as > expensive as a gold sandwich, though. For a regular league match you will always find tickets available. Although your weekend is around the time of the league 'split' - which could prove to be quite 'squeeky bum' for Motherwell (or who knows, Celtic) and thus might make it a more attractive game and more likely to sell out. Maybe. If you chose this game I'd phone the club now and ask see if you can buy tickets. The online site they use don't offer tickets that far in advance. Think tickets are about ?28. Rory From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Jan 18 06:48:22 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:22 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: ; from rory.macdonald@gmail.com on Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:40:42PM +0000 References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> <20100118142620.D1673@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <20100118144822.E1673@assyrian.org.uk> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:40:42PM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: > Think tickets are about ?28. Cheaper than I'd thought! More of a gold amuse-bouche. Andrew's right, though, you have to allow for match-related incidental costs. Miles -- That emacs has such a high version number is surely a sign that there's something fundamentally wrong with it to require so many major updates. See also: Windows 2000. -- David Cantrell From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Jan 18 06:50:25 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <1e11fb0e1001180636s16239a50g5411e7c2b9df6fa6@mail.gmail.com>; from asmith9983@gmail.com on Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:36:11PM +0000 References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> <1e11fb0e1001180636s16239a50g5411e7c2b9df6fa6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100118145025.F1673@assyrian.org.uk> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:36:11PM +0000, A Smith wrote: > BTW Remember the Offside rule. NB: it is not actually necessary to understand the off-side rule, merely to be able to argue about it in a loud voice :-) At the next Git Appreciation Society^W^W^W Edinburgh.pm meeting, remind me to explain the off-side rules of the Eton Field Game, which make the Association Football version look positively rational... Miles -- The spoons command me to put gravel in milk. Cruckle! -- Richard Morgan From perl at minty.org Mon Jan 18 06:58:51 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:58:51 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] OT: Footie In-Reply-To: <20100118145025.F1673@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20100118140826.GE15375@minty.org> <1e11fb0e1001180636s16239a50g5411e7c2b9df6fa6@mail.gmail.com> <20100118145025.F1673@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <20100118145851.GG15375@minty.org> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:50:25PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: > At the next Git Appreciation Society^W^W^W Edinburgh.pm meeting, remind > me to explain the off-side rules of the Eton Field Game, which make the > Association Football version look positively rational... Hmm. Should we introduce an off side rule for edin.pm meetings? Anyone using MS without a linux kernel ahead of it in the stack perhaps? ps. thanks to all for the advice. Much appreciated! From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Jan 19 06:51:08 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:51:08 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Cult film: Akira [OT] Message-ID: <20100119145108.B31466@assyrian.org.uk> Hi everyone, Just a heads-up about this Thursday's Cult Film meeting, which will be held at 8pm at Dan and Chris' flat, 10/5 Teviot Place. We'll be showing the classic 1988 post-apocalyptic anime film Akira. There has been talk (much of it from me) about adapting the Roxanne drinking game to this new medium[1], but I don't think it will be compulsory to play :-) Miles [1] TETSUO!!! *glug* [2] [2] KANEDA!!! *glug* [1] -- Art is a legalised form of insanity, and I do it very well. -- Stanley Marsh III From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 01:20:40 2010 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:20:40 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Cult film: Akira [OT] In-Reply-To: <20100119145108.B31466@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20100119145108.B31466@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: Unsure if I'll be able to make it tonight. By the way.... On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Miles Gould wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just a heads-up about this Thursday's Cult Film meeting, which will be > held at 8pm at Dan and Chris' flat... List archives are world (including Google) readable, e.g. http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/edinburgh-pm/2010-January/000940.html Rob From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 00:23:49 2010 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:23:49 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? Message-ID: Or did I miss it? Wim -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at minty.org Thu Jan 28 02:18:59 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:18:59 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Or did I miss it? I was planning to attend, although I may be a little later than normal ... 7ish? Anyone else? Guilford Arms I assume. I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 28 02:51:53 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:51:53 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: ; from perl@minty.org on Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20100128105153.C20564@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000, Murray wrote: > > Or did I miss it? > > I was planning to attend, although I may be a little later than normal > ... 7ish? Anyone else? I should be there. > I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. An excellent suggestion. Miles -- [When the presence of duct tape on the spacecraft was confirmed] I felt like we were home free. One thing a Southern boy will never say is 'I don't think duct tape will fix it.' -- Ed Smylie, Apollo 13 Mission Control engineer From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Thu Jan 28 04:03:27 2010 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:03:27 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: <20100128105153.C20564@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20100128105153.C20564@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: I'll be in Edinburgh from 6pm on, anyone care to join me for a bite at the Cambridge? Wim 2010/1/28 Miles Gould > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000, Murray wrote: > > > Or did I miss it? > > > > I was planning to attend, although I may be a little later than normal > > ... 7ish? Anyone else? > > I should be there. > > > I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. > > An excellent suggestion. > > Miles > > -- > [When the presence of duct tape on the spacecraft was confirmed] I felt > like we were home free. One thing a Southern boy will never say is 'I > don't think duct tape will fix it.' > -- Ed Smylie, Apollo 13 Mission Control engineer > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen.hall at predix.com Thu Jan 28 04:25:52 2010 From: stephen.hall at predix.com (Stephen Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:25:52 +0200 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B618250.8060100@predix.com> Alas, I will not make it, as I am now back in balmy Cape Town. I hope to visit Edinburgh again sometime in the not too distant future. Otherwise, if any of you Perl Mongers or your close relatives find yourselves in this neck of the woods, please get in touch. So long, and thanks for all the beer... Stephen Murray wrote: >> Or did I miss it? >> > > I was planning to attend, although I may be a little later than normal > ... 7ish? Anyone else? > > Guilford Arms I assume. > > I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > > -- Predix Communications (Pty) Ltd Tel +27 21 782 6326 | Fax +27 21 413 0508 PO Box 12188, Mill Street, 8010, South Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Jan 28 06:25:28 2010 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:25:28 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: References: <20100128105153.C20564@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > I'll be in Edinburgh from 6pm on, anyone care to join me for a bite at the > Cambridge? Yeah, sounds good. Probably can't quite make it by 6pm, but I shouldn't be too much later than that. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 28 08:06:28 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:06:28 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: <4B618250.8060100@predix.com>; from stephen.hall@predix.com on Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 02:25:52PM +0200 References: <4B618250.8060100@predix.com> Message-ID: <20100128160627.C29814@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Stephen Hall wrote: > Alas, I will not make it, as I am now back in balmy Cape Town. I hope to > visit Edinburgh again sometime in the not too distant future. Otherwise, > if any of you Perl Mongers or your close relatives find yourselves in this > neck of the woods, please get in touch. Oh no! Though with the weather as it is today, I can't blame you. We shall miss you. Miles -- Alias: Just realised I have called everyone who owns a shiny modern SLR a gorilla. Mat: Meh. They won't notice, they're too busy with their multi-zoned eye-tracking focusing systems. Ponces. We're much cooler than them. From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 28 08:40:10 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:40:10 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: ; from perl@minty.org on Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20100128164010.D29814@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000, Murray wrote: > I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. To make the game more interesting, I think we should also penalise false challenges. Hence, you have to find ways of using the syllables "I pad" innocuously - "I pad column-structured data with whitespace", for instance. Miles -- The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge. -- Daniel J. Boorstin From perl at minty.org Thu Jan 28 09:01:46 2010 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:01:46 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: <20100128164010.D29814@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20100128164010.D29814@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <20100128170145.GJ15375@minty.org> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 04:40:10PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:18:59AM +0000, Murray wrote: > > I propose a drinking game - anyone who mentions "ipad" has to drink. > > To make the game more interesting, I think we should also penalise false > challenges. Hence, you have to find ways of using the syllables "I pad" > innocuously - "I pad column-structured data with whitespace", for > instance. I'm game, although my motivation was mostly to minimise re-hashing of the Apple related diarrhea splattering across the web of late. Which made me wonder : will twitter eventually (re)produce the works of Shakespeare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem Bots reposting the original not withstanding. :) From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 28 09:11:01 2010 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:11:01 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Monthly meeting today? In-Reply-To: <20100128170145.GJ15375@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 05:01:46PM +0000 References: <20100128164010.D29814@assyrian.org.uk> <20100128170145.GJ15375@minty.org> Message-ID: <20100128171100.E29814@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 05:01:46PM +0000, Murray wrote: > Which made me wonder : will twitter eventually (re)produce the works of > Shakespeare? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem > > Bots reposting the original not withstanding. I didn't tell you about Project Twutenberg, clearly! http://www.everyoneisplaying.com/twutenberg/ Miles -- Daddy warned me about men and bourbon. He never said a word about women and cocaine. -- Tallulah Bankhead