From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 8 02:36:07 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:36:07 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] making .debs with dh-make-perl Message-ID: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> I want to package some CPAN modules as debs for Ubuntu. Got as far as building them with dh-make-perl, adapted a script from here [1] to build dependencies automatically, but trying to install the resulting .deb(s) fails: $ sudo dpkg -i .dh-make-perl-deps/build/libset-infinite-perl_0.63-0.0_all.deb (Reading database ... 306263 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libset-infinite-perl (from .../libset-infinite-perl_0.63-0.0_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing .dh-make-perl-deps/build/libset-infinite-perl_0.63-0.0_all.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/perl/5.8/perllocal.pod', which is also in package libdatetime-event-recurrence-perl Errors were encountered while processing: .dh-make-perl-deps/build/libset-infinite-perl_0.63-0.0_all.deb It looks like the dh-make-perl default is trying to install its own perllocal.pod instead of modifying to it using a post-install script as is probably should. (This point also noted by someone else in a comment in [2]). So far, googling hasn't come up with a solution, and I'd rather not reinvent one. Murray/Aaron: I gather you use dh-make-perl? Any pointers? Cheers N ps http://debian.pkgs.cpan.org/ doesn't have the modules I need. pps I've also tried CPANPLUS::Dist::Deb/cpanp - it works and is what I'm using for now, but [3] suggests it doesn't always get everything right. Plus it won't build dependencies for me, and the process of manually discovering and building dependencies is a bit painful. 1. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=753543 2. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/78 3. http://www.opensourcery.com/blog/hans-dieter-pearcey/packaging-cpan-modules-debian From perl at minty.org Wed Jul 8 02:52:46 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:52:46 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] making .debs with dh-make-perl In-Reply-To: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090708095246.GL5379@minty.org> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:36:07AM +0100, Nick Woolley wrote: > Murray/Aaron: I gather you use dh-make-perl? Any pointers? Err, not sure, but I could point you at: http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20090518/017176.html http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20090518/017177.html And perhaps the surrounding thread. I have a hacky/ugly/shameful little script that wraps all that up for me. I bet Aaron will have a more informed view, but perhaps it's the pain you get when you mix packaging systems (cpan & apt). I now avoid using cpan for installs and build debs of everything ... a habit I blame on Aaron ;) In any event, I built a deb which I installed cleanly on Jaunty. It's also now in my apt repo, details here http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm/Week-of-Mon-20090518/017178.html I'll say again tho - I wouldn't trust my app repo if I was you - I make no warranties about it at all, other than it currently appears to exist. But it is what I use. Or you can grab it here (for jaunty, although it looks like it may be pure perl & not have much in the way of dependencies, so will possibly just install on fairly recent debian dists ... Assume I'm waving my hands around here and looking like I don't have a scoobie what I'm talking about ...) http://apt.sysmonblog.co.uk/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libset-infinite-perl/libset-infinite-perl_0.63-1~0murray_all.deb with the same caveats. From miles at assyrian.org.uk Wed Jul 8 04:07:44 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:07:44 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] making .debs with dh-make-perl In-Reply-To: <20090708095246.GL5379@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:52:46AM +0100 References: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> <20090708095246.GL5379@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090708120743.A30029@assyrian.org.uk> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:52:46AM +0100, Murray wrote: > I bet Aaron will have a more informed view, but perhaps it's the pain > you get when you mix packaging systems (cpan & apt). I now avoid using > cpan for installs and build debs of everything ... a habit I blame on > Aaron ;) Heh. I do the opposite: I use CPAN for everything I can, and apt for the rest. Miles -- Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry on as if nothing had happened. -- Winston Churchill From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 12:08:01 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:08:01 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [Fwd: [Fwd: programming meetup next wednesday (15th)]] Message-ID: <4A564011.7010700@gmail.com> There's a meeting of the "Edinburgh Programming Fringe" coming up next week. http://groups.google.com/group/codebloc/ -------- Original Message -------- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:40:18 +0100 Message-ID: <442d033e0907081340i67c7f8b8uc4906645ad64319e at mail.gmail.com> Subject: programming meetup next wednesday (15th) From: Thomas Figg To: codebloc Cc: Tech Meetup Reply-To: codebloc at googlegroups.com Mailing-List: list codebloc at googlegroups.com; contact codebloc+owner at googlegroups.com List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-BeenThere-Env: codebloc at googlegroups.com X-BeenThere: codebloc at googlegroups.com A bunch of programmers will be heading to the Auld Hoose next wednesday, about 7pm if you'd like to join us. A very informal meetup for those who are interested in programming of all kinds and sorts. We try not to discriminate based upon language (even PHP! (no guarantees)) All welcome, and I look forward to seeing you next week. -- tef From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jul 9 13:37:47 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:37:47 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [Fwd: [Fwd: programming meetup next wednesday (15th)]] In-Reply-To: <4A564011.7010700@gmail.com>; from robrwo@gmail.com on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 08:08:01PM +0100 References: <4A564011.7010700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090709213747.A23044@assyrian.org.uk> I was planning to go to this, though I have a work thing on beforehand and thus will be late. Miles -- We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us. -- Charles Bukowski From robrwo at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 09:03:09 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:03:09 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] making .debs with dh-make-perl In-Reply-To: <20090708120743.A30029@assyrian.org.uk> References: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> <20090708095246.GL5379@minty.org> <20090708120743.A30029@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Miles Gould wrote: > Heh. I do the opposite: I use CPAN for everything I can, and apt for the > rest. Same. I only use apt when I am unable to build the module in CPAN. (Probably because I use a mix of Ubuntu, Debian and CentOS systems.) From pjf at perltraining.com.au Mon Jul 13 04:10:24 2009 From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:10:24 +1000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> G'day Aaron / Edinburgh.pm, History: I dropped a note to London.pm saying that Jacinta and myself will be passing through on our way to YAPC::EU. Aaron had the good sense to mention that if we were in the area, that Edinburgh is a great place to visit... We join our heroic adventurers as they plan their trip around Scotland and Northern England... Aaron Crane wrote: > Hi. If you're planning to be in Scotland during August, I'd like to > suggest in particular that you come to Edinburgh: quite apart from the > city itself and the Edinburgh Festival, we also have a local Perl > Mongers chapter. We're a small but friendly group, and we like > welcoming visitors. > > http://edinburgh.pm.org/ Sold! It looks like we'll be arriving in Edinburgh on the 11th August, and will travelling down to Darlington on the 12th. An Emergency Social would be absolutely fantastic if one could be arranged. I could also be convinced to give a talk (20-45 minutes) on something, as long as it's Perl related, I can pick the topic, and there'll be drinks during/afterwards. ;) I know this may be asking a bit, but if anyone happens to have a spare couch or two on the night of the 11th August, then we don't yet have accommodation booked in Edinburgh. I've found that staying with awesome tech people is so much better than staying in a hotel/hostel, and we're both very low maintenance. ;) All the very best, and see you all on the 11th, Paul -- Paul Fenwick | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681 From andy at hexten.net Mon Jul 13 04:26:54 2009 From: andy at hexten.net (Andy Armstrong) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:26:54 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:10, Paul Fenwick wrote: > Sold! It looks like we'll be arriving in Edinburgh on the 11th > August, and > will travelling down to Darlington on the 12th. An Emergency Social > would > be absolutely fantastic if one could be arranged. I'm kinda in between Edinburgh and Darlington. I'll definitely trek up to Edinburgh to say hi and can probably get you to Darlington if it would help. If you want to see sights in between (like Hadrian's wall for example) I'm happy to be tour guide for that too. > I know this may be asking a bit, but if anyone happens to have a > spare couch > or two on the night of the 11th August, then we don't yet have > accommodation > booked in Edinburgh. I've found that staying with awesome tech > people is so > much better than staying in a hotel/hostel, and we're both very low > maintenance. ;) Not Edinburgh - but I can put you up between Edinburgh and Darlo if it helps. -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten From perl at minty.org Mon Jul 13 09:24:30 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:24:30 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <20090713162430.GX6278@minty.org> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:10, Paul Fenwick wrote: >> Sold! It looks like we'll be arriving in Edinburgh on the 11th >> August > > I'm kinda in between Edinburgh and Darlington. I'll definitely trek up > to Edinburgh to say hi Fabulous news all round. Might I suggest: http://www.cumberlandbar.co.uk/ It serves decent beer as well as food. No wifi tho. >> I could also be convinced to give a talk (20-45 minutes) on >> something, as long as it's Perl related, I can pick the topic, and >> there'll be drinks during/afterwards. ;) Tech talks are a bit like the three legged haggis at edinburgh.pm meets, but I note the above pub has a "back room", which I could at least ask about reserving for talk(s). Being festival season they might just laugh at such a notion. No wifi/projector/screens and limited power outlets ... We're a lot more set up for drinking than talking, but that is par for the course around these parts. Is anyone else willing to stand up and say something both vaugely coherent and technical for a few minutes? Or shall we just keep it informal? From pjf at perltraining.com.au Mon Jul 13 09:59:55 2009 From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:59:55 +1000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <4A5B680B.7070500@perltraining.com.au> G'day Andy, Aarron, and Edinburgh.pm, Andy Armstrong wrote: > I'm kinda in between Edinburgh and Darlington. I'll definitely trek up > to Edinburgh to say hi and can probably get you to Darlington if it > would help. If you want to see sights in between (like Hadrian's wall > for example) I'm happy to be tour guide for that too. Goodness me, yes! Having just gone on a wiki-adventure starting with Hadrian's Wall, I can even upgrade that to a "Goodness me, yes oh yes please!" ;) Aaron Crane wrote: > My flatmate and I would be happy to offer you the use of our sofa bed > for the night. (Though he's not a tech person; hope that isn't a > problem. ;-) We've finally booked our flights, and are coming in a little earlier than expected, with our plane arriving at Edinburgh airport at 21:20 on the 10th August. I know it's an awkward time at night, but if we could make sure of the sofa on the 10th, that would be wonderful! Although I also note we've just been generously offered accommodation by Murray, who lives "out in the sticks", but only a stone's throw from the airport. Given how late we'll be arriving (about 9:30pm), that may make for less travel overall. Andy has offered: > Not Edinburgh - but I can put you up between Edinburgh and Darlo if it > helps. Yes please! If it's not too inconvenient, then that would be fabulous; especially on the 11th, as that would put us well on our way to our Darlington adventures. Thank-you very much indeed! All the best, and looking forward to seeing you all in Edinburgh, Paul -- Paul Fenwick | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681 From andy at hexten.net Mon Jul 13 10:26:31 2009 From: andy at hexten.net (Andy Armstrong) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:26:31 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: <4A5B680B.7070500@perltraining.com.au> References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> <4A5B680B.7070500@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: On 13 Jul 2009, at 17:59, Paul Fenwick wrote: > >> I'm kinda in between Edinburgh and Darlington. I'll definitely trek >> up >> to Edinburgh to say hi and can probably get you to Darlington if it >> would help. If you want to see sights in between (like Hadrian's wall >> for example) I'm happy to be tour guide for that too. > > Goodness me, yes! > > Having just gone on a wiki-adventure starting with Hadrian's Wall, I > can > even upgrade that to a "Goodness me, yes oh yes please!" ;) Cool - you're on :) >> Not Edinburgh - but I can put you up between Edinburgh and Darlo if >> it >> helps. > > Yes please! If it's not too inconvenient, then that would be > fabulous; > especially on the 11th, as that would put us well on our way to our > Darlington adventures. Thank-you very much indeed! No problem - gives me a reason to do some housework... -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jul 14 04:59:28 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:59:28 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] making .debs with dh-make-perl In-Reply-To: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4A546887.4010000@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A5C7320.6040103@yahoo.co.uk> Nick Woolley wrote: > It looks like the dh-make-perl default is trying to install its own > perllocal.pod instead of modifying to it using a post-install script as is > probably should. (This point also noted by someone else in a comment in [2]). I should mention, I found a solution to this, based on a clue from [1]: Essentially, use the system ExtUtils::MakeMaker by setting the include path with PERL5LIB to check the system folder first, when runing dh-make-perl: PERL5LIB=:$PERL5LIB dh-make-perl This creates a .deb without the perllocal.pod file that then installs without conflicting with other packages. I have no idea how that works, just that it does. Cheers, N 1. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist at lists.debian.org/msg31458.html From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Jul 14 02:37:10 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:37:10 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 11th August - Paul and Jacinta (PJF and jarich) come to Edinburgh! In-Reply-To: <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au>; from pjf@perltraining.com.au on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:10:24PM +1000 References: <4A59C56F.4000409@perltraining.com.au> <6a4af7d0907120440u67fe7832l6d1360ea0d058e79@mail.gmail.com> <4A5B1620.6020100@perltraining.com.au> Message-ID: <20090714103710.A2710@assyrian.org.uk> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:10:24PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: > I know this may be asking a bit, but if anyone happens to have a spare couch > or two on the night of the 11th August, then we don't yet have accommodation > booked in Edinburgh. I've found that staying with awesome tech people is so > much better than staying in a hotel/hostel, and we're both very low > maintenance. ;) Sounds like you're already sorted, but there's also a sofabed going in my flat in Leith (about a mile NE from the centre of town) that you're welcome to stay in. Miles -- Amazing! You type random strings of letters, and it does what you want! -- Rhiannon Mogridge, on vi From perl at minty.org Tue Jul 21 07:03:15 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:03:15 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT Message-ID: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. Sadly I won't make. [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. Carlton Hill. [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? [ot] http://starwarsuncut.com/ quick before lucas calls the lawyers. From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 01:29:14 2009 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:29:14 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: When would the picnic start? If anyone would be there from 6pm I might come along. Wim 2009/7/21 Murray > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. Sadly I won't make. > > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. Carlton Hill. > > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? > > [ot] http://starwarsuncut.com/ quick before lucas calls the lawyers. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 02:48:19 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:48:19 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: 2009/7/21 Murray : > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. ?Sadly I won't make. I def can't make it - doing airport chauffeur duties. > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. ?Carlton Hill. Doubt I can make it, but scorching weather may help plans change :-) > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? Will make an effort to make it. > [ot] http://starwarsuncut.com/ quick before lucas calls the lawyers. :-) look fwd to the final work From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 22 03:15:55 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:15:55 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: <4A66E6DB.9000401@yahoo.co.uk> Murray wrote: > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. Sadly I won't make. Nor I - it's someone-important's birthday. > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. Carlton Hill. > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? Will try and make one or both - but will need not to be exhausted and to negotiate myself out of Twins Duty first. N From perl at minty.org Wed Jul 22 02:55:22 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:55:22 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090722095522.GP6278@minty.org> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:29:14AM +0100, Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > When would the picnic start? If anyone would be there from 6pm I might come > along. 6pm might be a bit fine, but I could probably be there before 6.30 From miles at assyrian.org.uk Wed Jul 22 03:40:46 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:40:46 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 03:03:15PM +0100 References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090722114046.A23826@assyrian.org.uk> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 03:03:15PM +0100, Murray wrote: > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. Sadly I won't make. > > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. Carlton Hill. > > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? I'm planning to be at all three. Miles -- All knowledge is of itself of some value. There is nothing so minute or inconsiderable that I would not rather know it than not. -- Samuel Johnson From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Jul 22 04:22:59 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:22:59 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Murray wrote: > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. ?Sadly I won't make. I'll definitely be at this one. > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. ?Carlton Hill. I expect to be at this one too (though maybe we should make contingency plans in case of weather-related issues). > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? I'll probably be there if it's the 11th, but I can't make the 10th. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From perl at minty.org Wed Jul 22 04:46:03 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:46:03 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090722114603.GR6278@minty.org> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:22:59PM +0100, Aaron Crane wrote: > I expect to be at this one too (though maybe we should make > contingency plans in case of weather-related issues). How about this: I will text anyone who gives me their number in advance if me/aaron plan to abort to the guilford arms. If you'd prefer to call me instead, email me off list for my number. From robrwo at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 10:19:17 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:19:17 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Regular Picnic Emergency OT In-Reply-To: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Murray wrote: > [regular] Thurs 23rd is the regular meeting date. ?Sadly I won't make. Nor will I. > [picnic] Next thur, 30th July, is the "Summer" Picnic. ?Carlton Hill. Looking forward to it. Hope that the weather holds up as well. > [emergency] anyone here 10/11th Aug when Paul Fenwick & co are in town? Unsure yet... From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 09:25:36 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:25:36 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Lunch break.... Message-ID: A fun lunch break idea.... use Algorithm::MarkovChain; use Net::Twitter; Cheers! Rob From perl at minty.org Thu Jul 30 01:31:10 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:31:10 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> The forecast is true to form and somewhat indeterminate with the possibility of changes, but anyway ... As I recall, we have previously met up around the top of Carlton Hill, somewhere around here http://tinyurl.com/ks4nax I aim to be there by 6 but probably not much before. If me/Aaron are aborting to the pub I can text anyone who gives me their number. Thus far I have Miles and Wim on my list. Email off list for my number if you want it. Murray. From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Jul 30 05:50:53 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:50:53 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> Message-ID: Murray wrote: > As I recall, we have previously met up around the top of Carlton Hill, Sorry, I won't be able to make it tonight ? too much to do before I head off to YAPC. But I believe we're still expecting Paul Fenwick and Jacinta Richardson for an Emergency Social on the evening of August 11th. I'll be there, rail networks willing. Murray suggested trying out the Cumberland Bar for that: http://www.cumberlandbar.co.uk/ Sounds like a good plan to me. Anyone else? -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 06:12:31 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:12:31 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> Message-ID: Peg and I are planning to be there, sometime after 6.30. (If the weather isn't threatening rain then we might bring our pup to the picnic too.) On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Murray wrote: > The forecast is true to form and somewhat indeterminate with the > possibility of changes, but anyway ... > > As I recall, we have previously met up around the top of Carlton Hill, > somewhere around here http://tinyurl.com/ks4nax > > I aim to be there by 6 but probably not much before. > > If me/Aaron are aborting to the pub I can text anyone who gives me their > number. ?Thus far I have Miles and Wim on my list. ?Email off list for > my number if you want it. > > Murray. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 06:50:44 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:50:44 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> Message-ID: feh - I can't make it tonight :-/ From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jul 30 07:13:19 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:13:19 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: ; from perl@aaroncrane.co.uk on Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:50:53PM +0100 References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090730151319.C29404@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:50:53PM +0100, Aaron Crane wrote: > Murray suggested trying out the Cumberland Bar for that: > > http://www.cumberlandbar.co.uk/ > > Sounds like a good plan to me. Anyone else? I've only been to the Cumberland once (for a meeting of a mountaineering club named, by someone with a fine sense of irony, the Jacobites), but it seemed like a pretty decent place. So yes, I second that. Miles -- To be is to do. -- Socrates To do is to be. -- Sartre Do be do be do. -- Sinatra From antonia.mayer at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:16:33 2009 From: antonia.mayer at gmail.com (Antonia Mayer) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:16:33 +0100 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Tonight! Picnic! In-Reply-To: <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> References: <20090721140315.GG6278@minty.org> <20090730083109.GH26444@minty.org> Message-ID: >As I recall, we have previously met up around the top of Carlton Hill, >somewhere around here ^Lovely weather out there so far... unfortunately won't be able to make it, once more. Perhaps for the emergency social. Cheers, Toni