From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 11:06:28 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:06:28 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] UKUUG Perl seminars Message-ID: May be of interest .... http://www.ukuug.org/events/perl09/ From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:13:00 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:13:00 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed Message-ID: Hi, That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but trying to get out of it. Rory From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Jan 13 16:15:18 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:15:18 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: ; from rory.macdonald@gmail.com on Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13:00AM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20090114001518.B27649@assyrian.org.uk> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13:00AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: > Hi, > > That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but > trying to get out of it. I was planning to turn up, yes. Anyone else going to the Scottish Programming Languages Symposium in the afternoon? Miles -- Claire: At least George Bush /pretends/ to speak English. Michael: At least Arnold Schwarzenegger /tries/. From perl at minty.org Tue Jan 13 22:24:07 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:24:07 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13:00AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: > That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but > trying to get out of it. I'm playing the Rory card ;) in california, sipping local wine, eating burgers and watching wicked sunsets -- hoping to make it next month tho! From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 01:03:24 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:03:24 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/14 Murray : > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13:00AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: >> That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but >> trying to get out of it. > > I'm playing the Rory card ;) in california, sipping local wine, eating > burgers and watching wicked sunsets -- hoping to make it next month tho! Ah, but are you also attending a local PM meeting while in the sun? ;-) From robert at interactive.co.uk Wed Jan 14 01:23:01 2009 From: robert at interactive.co.uk (Robert Inder) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:23:01 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b89f0790901140123x4a63de81k7f4fd315211d747c@mail.gmail.com> I'm in Aberdeen for the day, but my train hits Waverley at about 9:30, so I'm planning to look in briefly around then. Robert. -- Robert Inder 0131 229 1052 / 07808 492 213 Interactive Information Ltd, 3, Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh EH3 9HH Registered in Scotland, Company no. SC 150689 Interactions speak louder than words From robrwo at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 01:46:58 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:46:58 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496DB492.6010203@gmail.com> I won't be able to make it tonight. :( On 14/01/09 00:13 Rory Macdonald wrote: > Hi, > > That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but > trying to get out of it. > > Rory From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 05:26:19 2009 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:26:19 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <496DB492.6010203@gmail.com> References: <496DB492.6010203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82bb54530901140526l2fae758bwaaef3d39bf839a0d@mail.gmail.com> I should be there. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > > I won't be able to make it tonight. :( > > On 14/01/09 00:13 Rory Macdonald wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but >> trying to get out of it. >> >> Rory > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Jan 14 07:28:33 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:28:33 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090114152833.GF7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> Rory Macdonald writes: > That time again. Anyone turning up tonight? I'm double booked but > trying to get out of it. I should be there, but I'm not quite sure yet what time. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From perl at minty.org Wed Jan 14 21:07:08 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:07:08 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:03:24AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: > Ah, but are you also attending a local PM meeting while in the sun? ;-) Sadly not, but I will be driving right past the inifinite loop. Anyhoo, at the risk of being a heretic, I'd like to propose: Tuesday 20th Jan, 6pm onwards. Garabaldi's, Hanover St http://www.google.com/search?q=garibaldi%27s+edinburgh They serve a variety of tequila based drinks -- perfect to help forget the last eight years of your life, or to celebrate the impending period of hope/change/bitter-disillusionment. Please extend to other septic tanks and/or non Perl nerds. They also serve my 2nd favourite Mojito, as well as various non tequila based beverages. And food. From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 06:53:16 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:53:16 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/15 Murray : > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:03:24AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: >> Ah, but are you also attending a local PM meeting while in the sun? ;-) > > Sadly not, but I will be driving right past the inifinite loop. Back in '99 I got a mate there to give me a quick drive-by tour of all the major geek outfits in the area. Killed an hour. > Anyhoo, at the risk of being a heretic, I'd like to propose: > > Tuesday 20th Jan, 6pm onwards. > Garabaldi's, Hanover St > http://www.google.com/search?q=garibaldi%27s+edinburgh Bah - double booked - but will try to make it. > They serve a variety of tequila based drinks -- perfect to help forget > the last eight years of your life, or to celebrate the impending period > of hope/change/bitter-disillusionment. Sounds like you're living a strip or two from the world of Dilbert. > Please extend to other septic tanks and/or non Perl nerds. > > They also serve my 2nd favourite Mojito, as well as various non tequila > based beverages. And food. Ah, Mojito - devilishly hard to get spot on and very easy to make rubbish or mediocre. I did some "research" into this in Glasgow. Long story short, best Mojito in Glasgow is made by James at Vodka Wodka on Ashton Lane in the West End. Rory From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jan 15 07:44:39 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:44:39 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <496F59E7.6070202@yahoo.co.uk> Murray wrote: > They serve a variety of tequila based drinks -- perfect to help forget > the last eight years of your life, or to celebrate the impending period > of hope/change/bitter-disillusionment. Call me a fool, but I was puzzled for a while there, before I realised you weren't in some sort of a personal crisis. And I've still not figured the bit about septic tanks... N From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Jan 15 08:14:31 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:14:31 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> Murray writes: > Anyhoo, at the risk of being a heretic, I'd like to propose: > > Tuesday 20th Jan, 6pm onwards. > Garabaldi's, Hanover St > http://www.google.com/search?q=garibaldi%27s+edinburgh I dare say I'll be able to make it to that. I mean, it's right outside the office, and everything. But that reminds me of something else. There's this thing called the "Edinburgh Tech Meetup", which claims to be a place for local techie networking, especially for entrepreneurs and tech startups, with free beer and pizza. Their website is somewhat hard to find (remarkable for something that seems so avowedly web-friendly), but it's here: http://www.techmeetup.co.uk/ There's also a Google Groups mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/techmeetup Anyway, the reason I mention it is that they seem to have picked the second Wednesday of the month as their preferred date. I'd kind of like to have the option of going to TM as well as Edinburgh.pm, without having to bail early on one of them. So, I'd like to propose a change of Edinburgh.pm meeting schedule. I mentioned this at last night's meeting, and there seemed to be some consensus (or acquiescence, anyway). These are the regularly-scheduled local geek events that I think we should aim to avoid. (Or the ones that are claimed to be regularly scheduled, anyway.) 1st Thursday: http://www.edlug.org.uk/ 2nd Wednesday: http://www.techmeetup.co.uk/ 3rd Tuesday: http://www.edmug.org.uk/ 3rd Thursday: http://scotrug.org/ Suggestions? I'm thinking we should pick the fourth $day of the month, for maximum separation from the other events. Fourth Wednesday? Maybe pick a different day of the week? -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jan 15 08:25:49 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:25:49 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <496F638D.8070400@yahoo.co.uk> Hi, I second this, for the same reasons. Aaron Crane wrote: > These are the regularly-scheduled local geek events that I think we > should aim to avoid. (Or the ones that are claimed to be regularly > scheduled, anyway.) > > 1st Thursday: http://www.edlug.org.uk/ > 2nd Wednesday: http://www.techmeetup.co.uk/ > 3rd Tuesday: http://www.edmug.org.uk/ > 3rd Thursday: http://scotrug.org/ I'd like to add dorkbot to the list: 2nd Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba 4th Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba > Suggestions? I'm thinking we should pick the fourth $day of the > month, for maximum separation from the other events. Fourth > Wednesday? Maybe pick a different day of the week? But either of those are fine for me. N From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 15 07:28:59 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:28:59 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 05:07:08AM +0000 References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090115152859.B23928@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 05:07:08AM +0000, Murray wrote: > Tuesday 20th Jan, 6pm onwards. > Garabaldi's, Hanover St > http://www.google.com/search?q=garibaldi%27s+edinburgh Annoyingly, Edinburgh No2ID have organised their "what are we going to do this year" meeting for that night: http://forum.no2id.net/viewtopic.php?t=25791&sid=d62f7966534bf37dd556225d192fa286 7pm-9pm at the Quaker Meeting House on Victoria Terrace if anyone fancies coming along and Fighting the Power (TM). If you're still at Garabaldi's after 9pm, I might make it along :-) Miles -- What if you were an idiot, and what if you were a member of Congress? But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 08:54:27 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:54:27 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <496F6A43.90307@gmail.com> On 15/01/09 16:14 Aaron Crane wrote: > But that reminds me of something else. ... > > So, I'd like to propose a change of Edinburgh.pm meeting schedule. > I mentioned this at last night's meeting, and there seemed to be > some consensus (or acquiescence, anyway). > > ... Not to mention non-techie things like the Edinburgh Hash Harriers: http://www.thenewtownhash.org/ > Suggestions? I'm thinking we should pick the fourth $day of the > month, for maximum separation from the other events. Fourth > Wednesday? Maybe pick a different day of the week? I vote for meeting on a Thursday. It's sort-of the end of the week, and more conducive to an evening at the pub. Rob From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 08:47:44 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:47:44 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <496F59E7.6070202@yahoo.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <496F59E7.6070202@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <496F68B0.8030703@gmail.com> On 15/01/09 15:44 Nick Woolley wrote: > Murray wrote: >> They serve a variety of tequila based drinks -- perfect to help forget >> the last eight years of your life, or to celebrate the impending period >> of hope/change/bitter-disillusionment. > > Call me a fool, but I was puzzled for a while there, before I realised > you weren't in some sort of a personal crisis. And I've still not > figured the bit about septic tanks... Rhyming slang for "yanks". Usually just shortened to "septics". (Funny thing is that "yankee" might have been an Algonquin slang for "English".) From perl at minty.org Thu Jan 15 10:07:59 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:07:59 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:14:31PM +0000, Aaron Crane wrote: > So, I'd like to propose a change of Edinburgh.pm meeting schedule. Works for me. Dare I suggest a http://doodle.com/ poll? Although 4th thursday seems like my best summary of the thread so far. M From miles at assyrian.org.uk Thu Jan 15 08:49:21 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:49:21 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <496F638D.8070400@yahoo.co.uk>; from nickwoolley@yahoo.co.uk on Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0000 References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <496F638D.8070400@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090115164921.A2391@assyrian.org.uk> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0000, Nick Woolley wrote: > 2nd Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba > 4th Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba Are they still going? I went to a couple of meetings and signed up to the mailing list, but the emails dried up after a year or so, and I assumed they'd folded. Anyway, you mis-typed the URL, which should have been http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotalba . Miles -- Of course, the other option could be that it's a secret Nazi conspiracy, but I think in the war between conspiracy and incompetence, incompetence wins. -- tuxmelvin, Reddit From nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jan 15 12:03:34 2009 From: nickwoolley at yahoo.co.uk (Nick Woolley) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:34 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115164921.A2391@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <496F638D.8070400@yahoo.co.uk> <20090115164921.A2391@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <496F9696.6040002@yahoo.co.uk> Miles Gould wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0000, Nick Woolley wrote: >> 2nd Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba >> 4th Tuesday: http://dorbot.org/dorkbotalba > > Are they still going? I went to a couple of meetings and signed up to > the mailing list, but the emails dried up after a year or so, and I > assumed they'd folded. Which email list? This one? dorkbotalba-announce at dorkbot.org If you're just a member of the announcements list, ignore that - the announcements list isn't really used any more. Join the blabber list: http://dorkbot.org/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotalba-blabber Dorkbot Alba's still around, just underground. "Dorkbot Alba" is also mostly just an Edinburgh group now. It was originally intended to include Glasgow, but the original Dorkbot organiser Chris fell out with the Weegie contingent. They forked and started the Electron Club [1], and then a couple of years ago he resigned in a huff over something, never to be seen again. Sadly the supply of speakers dried up when Chris left. Also, generally no-one can be bothered to hunt down and herd of potential speakers together, nor do we have any money for travel expenses or pizza to tempt them with. Other people do that better than we do, the Tech Meetup for example. So, since then, Dorkbot Alba has reverted to more of an anarchic collective / workshop / show & tell, upstairs at The Forest Cafe. The aim is just to try and get people with various sorts of know-how together and hatch plans to do things which wouldn't have happened otherwise. The crazier the better. A recent (and ongoing) project involves retrofitting a 19th century church organ, that lives upstairs at the Forest, with a midi-controlled player: http://dorkbot.noodlefactory.co.uk/wiki/WaldFl?te Hopefully there'll be more where that came from. Maybe we'll even get our act together and organise another event one day. > Anyway, you mis-typed the URL, which should > have been http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotalba . Oops. You're right. Cheers, N 1. http://www.electronclub.org/ (seems to be down at the mo) From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 18:27:54 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/15 Murray : > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:14:31PM +0000, Aaron Crane wrote: >> So, I'd like to propose a change of Edinburgh.pm meeting schedule. > > Works for me. Dare I suggest a http://doodle.com/ poll? > > Although 4th thursday seems like my best summary of the thread so far. Poll away - I'm happy with the 4th Thurs of the month, having just signed up for cooking classes every Wed for the next 10 weeks. Rory From cyocum at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 14:13:04 2009 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:13:04 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] 2nd Wed In-Reply-To: <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <82bb54530901181413v2e0fd91dl1815e81d45c4b2c5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Murray wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:03:24AM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: >> Ah, but are you also attending a local PM meeting while in the sun? ;-) > > Sadly not, but I will be driving right past the inifinite loop. > > Anyhoo, at the risk of being a heretic, I'd like to propose: > > Tuesday 20th Jan, 6pm onwards. > Garabaldi's, Hanover St > http://www.google.com/search?q=garibaldi%27s+edinburgh Sorry for taking so long but I might just make it...not sure..need to work out some details. > > They serve a variety of tequila based drinks -- perfect to help forget > the last eight years of your life, or to celebrate the impending period > of hope/change/bitter-disillusionment. > > Please extend to other septic tanks and/or non Perl nerds. > > They also serve my 2nd favourite Mojito, as well as various non tequila > based beverages. And food. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Mon Jan 19 04:41:10 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:41:10 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> Rory Macdonald writes: > Poll away - I'm happy with the 4th Thurs of the month, having just > signed up for cooking classes every Wed for the next 10 weeks. Fourth Thursday sounds good to me, but let's see what everyone says: http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=9fqezpkt2bih8zhx I've excluded all Fridays from the list of options (because there's no apparent interest in meeting on a Friday), as well as any day that was raised as conflicting with other local events. Let me know if there's a day not listed that you'd like to vote for. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Jan 28 04:21:40 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:21:40 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting dates (was Re: 2nd Wed) In-Reply-To: <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> I wrote: > Let's see what everyone says: > > http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=9fqezpkt2bih8zhx The fourth Thursday of the month is currently the clear leader. I'm minded to declare a result very soon, so if you've any interest in when we meet, express it by, say, noon tomorrow (Thursday 29th). For those who haven't used Doodle before, note that you don't have to sign up or anything -- just type in some kind of identifying mark and click on the boxes for your choices. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Jan 29 14:36:54 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:36:54 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> I wrote: > http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=9fqezpkt2bih8zhx We've now had nine ballots cast, which seems like a quorum to me. There seems to be consensus for the fourth Thursday of the month: five positive votes (more than any other option), and (uniquely) zero negative votes. Apologies to the four people for whom it was only a "could live with this" option. Rory, could you update the website accordingly? If my calculations are correct, the next meeting will be Thursday 26th February. See you all there! -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 17:03:04 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:03:04 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <498251C8.2070301@gmail.com> Should it be last Thursday instead of 4th? Otherwise people will get confused, for months like this month that have five of them. On 29/01/09 22:36 Aaron Crane wrote: > I wrote: >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=9fqezpkt2bih8zhx > > We've now had nine ballots cast, which seems like a quorum to me. > > There seems to be consensus for the fourth Thursday of the month: five > positive votes (more than any other option), and (uniquely) zero > negative votes. Apologies to the four people for whom it was only a > "could live with this" option. > > Rory, could you update the website accordingly? > > If my calculations are correct, the next meeting will be Thursday 26th > February. See you all there! > From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 17:37:10 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:37:10 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: 2009/1/29 Aaron Crane : > I wrote: >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=9fqezpkt2bih8zhx > > We've now had nine ballots cast, which seems like a quorum to me. > > There seems to be consensus for the fourth Thursday of the month: five > positive votes (more than any other option), and (uniquely) zero > negative votes. Apologies to the four people for whom it was only a > "could live with this" option. > > Rory, could you update the website accordingly? Done - you can duke it out with Robert re. 4th versus last Thursday. I'm happy enough with being able to track 4th as opposed to having to check if its the last Thursday yet :-) Rory From struan at exo.org.uk Fri Jan 30 01:52:31 2009 From: struan at exo.org.uk (Struan Donald) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:52:31 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <498251C8.2070301@gmail.com> References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> <498251C8.2070301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090130095231.GH3194@milkyjoe.hoodee.co.uk> * at 30/01 01:03 +0000 Robert Rothenberg said: > > Should it be last Thursday instead of 4th? Otherwise people will get > confused, for months like this month that have five of them. I believe in such cases the official strategy is to follow the McCarroll doctrine and have meetings on both Thursdays ;) s From robrwo at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 04:10:17 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:10:17 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: References: <20090114062407.GF10994@minty.org> <20090115050708.GH10994@minty.org> <20090115161431.GL7442@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090115180759.GK10994@minty.org> <20090119124110.GI30497@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090128122140.GA15436@aaroncrane.co.uk> <20090129223654.GA25762@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: <4982EE29.8070101@gmail.com> On 30/01/09 01:37 Rory Macdonald wrote: > Done - you can duke it out with Robert re. 4th versus last Thursday. > I'm happy enough with being able to track 4th as opposed to having to > check if its the last Thursday yet :-) Eh, it's not that important to me. 4th Thursday is fine. From perl at minty.org Fri Jan 30 03:38:56 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:38:56 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 (after a weeks voting ;) RobertR said: > Should it be last Thursday instead of 4th? I'd be strongly in favour of 4th Thursday. Basically because it's hard enough finding a decent calendaring solution, and most of the common ones will now support a recurring event on the 4th thursday of the month, but none that I know of will support "last thursday of the month". Yours, scheduling-ly challenged, Murray. From robrwo at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 10:06:12 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:06:12 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> References: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> Message-ID: Or worse, try second to last Thursday of the month.... On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Murray wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 (after a weeks voting ;) RobertR said: >> Should it be last Thursday instead of 4th? > > I'd be strongly in favour of 4th Thursday. > > Basically because it's hard enough finding a decent calendaring > solution, and most of the common ones will now support a recurring event > on the 4th thursday of the month, but none that I know of will support > "last thursday of the month". > > Yours, scheduling-ly challenged, > Murray. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From asmith9983 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 12:13:36 2009 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (asmith9983 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:13:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: References: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> Message-ID: Hi This sounds like an incentive for me to read up on producing an RFC2445 iCalendaring compliant file for import into your favourite caledaring solution. I'll schedule the reading for when its snowing on Sunday! -- Andrew On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > Or worse, try second to last Thursday of the month.... > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Murray wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 (after a weeks voting ;) RobertR said: >>> Should it be last Thursday instead of 4th? >> >> I'd be strongly in favour of 4th Thursday. >> >> Basically because it's hard enough finding a decent calendaring >> solution, and most of the common ones will now support a recurring event >> on the 4th thursday of the month, but none that I know of will support >> "last thursday of the month". >> >> Yours, scheduling-ly challenged, >> Murray. >> _______________________________________________ >> Edinburgh-pm mailing list >> Edinburgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm >> > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From miles at assyrian.org.uk Fri Jan 30 09:36:58 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:36:58 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:38:56AM +0000 References: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> Message-ID: <20090130173658.B29390@assyrian.org.uk> I think we should go for the McCarroll solution, as previously suggested: if the fourth Thursday is not the same as the last Thursday, go to both. I'm willing to lead Edinburgh-Heretics.pm (who would meet on the last Thursday of the month) if anyone feels that the position needs filling :-) Miles -- The world seemed cruel and boring, and I'm not sure which was worse. -- Paul Graham From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Sat Jan 31 09:58:27 2009 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:58:27 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090130173658.B29390@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> <20090130173658.B29390@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <20090131175827.GN7514@aaroncrane.co.uk> Miles Gould writes: > I think we should go for the McCarroll solution, as previously > suggested: if the fourth Thursday is not the same as the last > Thursday, go to both. I thoroughly approve of the way you approach these things, sir. Yay! > I'm willing to lead Edinburgh-Heretics.pm (who would meet on the > last Thursday of the month) if anyone feels that the position needs > filling :-) This sort of just-do-it attitude is precisely what the Perl community was built on. I suggest we now call you the Heretic General. I believe these are the forthcoming heretical last-Thursday-of-the-month dates: 2009-04-30 2009-07-30 2009-10-29 2009-12-31 Note that the last of those is Hogmanay; that might cause problems, but then, the fourth Thursday of December 2009 is Christmas Eve, which might cause even more problems. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From robrwo at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 13:09:19 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:09:19 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] New meeting date (was Re: Meeting dates) In-Reply-To: <20090131175827.GN7514@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20090130113856.GS3226@minty.org> <20090130173658.B29390@assyrian.org.uk> <20090131175827.GN7514@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: We'll have to reschedule both meetings, then! On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Aaron Crane wrote: > Miles Gould writes: >> I think we should go for the McCarroll solution ... >> I'm willing to lead Edinburgh-Heretics.pm (who would meet on the >> last Thursday of the month) if anyone feels that the position needs >> filling :-) > > This sort of just-do-it attitude is precisely what the Perl community > was built on. I suggest we now call you the Heretic General. > > I believe these are the forthcoming heretical last-Thursday-of-the-month > dates: > ... > 2009-12-31 > > Note that the last of those is Hogmanay; that might cause problems, > but then, the fourth Thursday of December 2009 is Christmas Eve, which > might cause even more problems.