From miles at assyrian.org.uk Fri Dec 4 07:03:35 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] QuickCheck for Perl Message-ID: <20091204150335.M29928@assyrian.org.uk> Just noticed this: http://search.cpan.org/~tmoertel/Test-LectroTest-0.3600/lib/Test/LectroTest/Tutorial.pod It's a Perl clone of Haskell's specification-based testing library, QuickCheck. Which is nice. Anyone used it? Miles -- When I argue with reality I lose, but only 100% of the time. -- Byron Katie From hakim.cassimally at gmail.com Sun Dec 6 15:20:17 2009 From: hakim.cassimally at gmail.com (Hakim Cassimally) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:20:17 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] =?iso-8859-1?q?Ce=E7i_n=27est_pas_une_=2Epm=3F?= Message-ID: <82cfa8030912061520w213dd437ma632ac92dbb16170@mail.gmail.com> As is traditional, I met up with Aaron at the London Perl Workshop ;-) Amusingly, both of us had used the famous Magritte image in our slides: http://1heckofaguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/magritte-pipe.jpg (possibly because we were both talking about pipes, and um, are incredibly original.) Here's my slides, if anyone's interested: http://www.slideshare.net/osfameron/semantic-pipes-london-perl-workshop-2009 See yous all in Edinburgh soon hopefully ;-) osfameron From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Dec 8 10:16:38 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:16:38 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Best error message in the world ever Message-ID: <20091208181638.G8373@assyrian.org.uk> I just got the following error message from our app: java.lang.AssertionError: Duplicate tagset name in [spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam] Your mission (should you choose to accept it) is to work out what sequence of changes led to that assertion failing in such a manner... Miles -- Nonsense! They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance! -- Last words of Gen. John Sedgwick From perl at minty.org Sun Dec 13 04:08:14 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:08:14 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling Message-ID: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> I note that the 4th Thursday of December this year is 24th. Indeed, 4th Thursday of every December is likely to clash with the traditional Pagan^^^^^Christian holiday. I perhaps should keep my mouth shut, given my recent attendance record, but maybe those who operate under the mystic cloud of heresy might have things to say on the matter? Monday 21st is the shortest day. In so much as heresy and drinking are best done during the dark hours, perhaps this might be a suitable alternative date? Wikipedia also mentions that Festivus is often celebrated on 23rd, although this is only 86400 seconds better than the 4th Thursday, so perhaps not enough distance to merit summoning up the Heretical spirits? Patches welcome. From miles at assyrian.org.uk Sun Dec 13 04:41:48 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:41:48 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:08:14PM +0000 References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> Message-ID: <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:08:14PM +0000, Murray wrote: > Monday 21st is the shortest day. In so much as heresy and drinking are > best done during the dark hours, perhaps this might be a suitable > alternative date? I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. Also... I notice that there are five Thursdays in December, and that therefore a Heretics meeting is scheduled for the 31st. The 31st is, of course, Hogmanay: however, I also happen to know that two members of our group are hosting a party that night. Might those be combined? [This would be *in addition* to an extra-Heretical pub meet, clearly :-) ] Miles -- They said it was impossible. They said I was mad! Well, they were right about the second part. -- Eric S. Raymond From perl at minty.org Sun Dec 13 05:06:11 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:06:11 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: > I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? From miles at assyrian.org.uk Sun Dec 13 05:10:27 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:10:27 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org>; from perl@minty.org on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 01:06:11PM +0000 References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> Message-ID: <20091213131027.A16414@assyrian.org.uk> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 01:06:11PM +0000, Murray wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: > > I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. > > Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? Works for me. Miles -- BE ALOOF! (There has been a recent population explosion of lerts.) -- seen on Slashdot From robrwo at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 05:49:50 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:49:50 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Murray wrote: > I note that the 4th Thursday of December this year is 24th. ?Indeed, 4th > Thursday of every December is likely to clash with the traditional > Pagan^^^^^Christian holiday. > > I perhaps should keep my mouth shut, given my recent attendance record, > but maybe those who operate under the mystic cloud of heresy might have > things to say on the matter? > > Monday 21st is the shortest day. ?In so much as heresy and drinking are > best done during the dark hours, perhaps this might be a suitable > alternative date? > > Wikipedia also mentions that Festivus is often celebrated on 23rd, > although this is only 86400 seconds better than the 4th Thursday, so > perhaps not enough distance to merit summoning up the Heretical spirits? Well, Festivus isn't limited to a particular date---that's just the date it happened on Seinfeld. But I'm flexible. > > Patches welcome. > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From robrwo at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 05:51:00 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:51:00 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213131027.A16414@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> <20091213131027.A16414@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: Cumberland on the 21st is fine for me! On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Miles Gould wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 01:06:11PM +0000, Murray wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: >> > I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. >> >> Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? > > Works for me. > > Miles > > -- > BE ALOOF! (There has been a recent population explosion of lerts.) > ?-- seen on Slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 06:55:27 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:55:27 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> Message-ID: 2009/12/13 Murray : > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: >> I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. > > Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? 21st and Cumberland is good. Rory From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 11:49:58 2009 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:49:58 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> Message-ID: I think I'll make it on the 21st, Cumberland bar is fine for me. Wim 2009/12/13 Murray > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41:48PM +0000, Miles Gould wrote: > > I'm going South on the 22nd, so Monday 21st would be ideal for me. > > Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? 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If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Dec 14 09:03:41 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:03:41 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Seasons Greetings from Winterwell + winterval party Message-ID: <20091214170125.C8070@assyrian.org.uk> Dear all, You are invited to Winterwell's office warming winterval party. 18th December at our new premises on 39 Grassmarket, from 6pm. I'd also like to send you an online christmas card from Winterwell: http://www.winterwell.com/company/news/xmas-card-2009/?to=Edinburgh.pm I trust you all feel suitably touched :-) If I don't see you before then, I hope you all have a good Christmas and a happy new year. Miles -- Amazing! You type random strings of letters, and it does what you want! -- Rhiannon Mogridge, on vi From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 11:19:13 2009 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:19:13 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> Message-ID: Weather & trains permitting, I'll be at the Cumberland bar around 6pm. Anyone care to join me for a burger? Wim 2009/12/13 Murray > > Unless Rory / Wim can make it, does the Cumberland bar suit? > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at minty.org Sun Dec 20 11:58:06 2009 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:58:06 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> Message-ID: <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 07:19:13PM +0000, Wim Vanderbauwhede wrote: > Weather & trains permitting, I'll be at the Cumberland bar around 6pm. > Anyone care to join me for a burger? Not sure if I'll make it for 6 on the dot, but will try to be close. If the weather gets the better of the transport, could you let me know as I won't need to rush and can aim to hit 7pm. From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Sun Dec 20 15:07:28 2009 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:07:28 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> Message-ID: Due to lurgy, I will be absenting myself :-/ bugger From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Dec 21 09:15:14 2009 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: ; from rory.macdonald@gmail.com on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0000 References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> Message-ID: <20091221171514.E13917@assyrian.org.uk> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: > Due to lurgy, I will be absenting myself :-/ I don't think I'll be making it either. Best seasonal wishes to you all, and I'll see you at the next meeting! Miles -- Everyone in the sciences secretly believes that mathematicians are smarter than they are. I think mathematicians also believe this. -- Paul Graham From robrwo at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 10:06:32 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:06:32 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091221171514.E13917@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> <20091221171514.E13917@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: Did someone reserve room here? It seems most of the pub is taken up by Xmas parties. Sent from somebody else's iPod On 21 Dec 2009, at 17:15, Miles Gould wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: >> Due to lurgy, I will be absenting myself :-/ > > I don't think I'll be making it either. Best seasonal wishes to you > all, > and I'll see you at the next meeting! > > Miles > > -- > Everyone in the sciences secretly believes that mathematicians are > smarter than they are. I think mathematicians also believe this. > -- Paul Graham > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm From robrwo at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 10:13:38 2009 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:13:38 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] [bug #4] 4th Thursday scheduling In-Reply-To: <20091221171514.E13917@assyrian.org.uk> References: <20091213120814.GJ5979@minty.org> <20091213124148.A23970@assyrian.org.uk> <20091213130611.GK5979@minty.org> <20091220195806.GW5979@minty.org> <20091221171514.E13917@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <492F6080-F822-44A5-84F7-D149CF90ADC5@gmail.com> I've got a table by the door with Harry in the meantime. Sent from somebody else's iPod On 21 Dec 2009, at 17:15, Miles Gould wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:07:28PM +0000, Rory Macdonald wrote: >> Due to lurgy, I will be absenting myself :-/ > > I don't think I'll be making it either. Best seasonal wishes to you > all, > and I'll see you at the next meeting! > > Miles > > -- > Everyone in the sciences secretly believes that mathematicians are > smarter than they are. I think mathematicians also believe this. > -- Paul Graham > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm