From asmith9983 at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 09:59:29 2007 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (asmith9983 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:59:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Dec 12th Wednesday evening meeting Message-ID: Its the 2nd wednesday evening of the month, so its time to relax from thinking of Christmas things and decide on the Perl books to request from Santa. Hopefully Perl 5.10 will be out soon, so we can all relieve any Christmas or Boxing day boredom by doing something useful. -- Andrew From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Mon Dec 10 08:05:40 2007 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:05:40 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Can't make Wednesday :-( Message-ID: The only evening I have free this week is tomorrow night (and possibly Thursday) :-( so I won't see y'all until the new year Rory From robrwo at gmail.com Mon Dec 10 11:36:18 2007 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:36:18 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Can't make Wednesday :-( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure that I can make it tomorrow. On 10/12/2007, Rory Macdonald wrote: > > The only evening I have free this week is tomorrow night (and possibly > Thursday) :-( so I won't see y'all until the new year -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/edinburgh-pm/attachments/20071211/d697798e/attachment.html From tsojcanth at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 06:41:25 2007 From: tsojcanth at gmail.com (Paolo Greco) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:41:25 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Can't make Wednesday :-( In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6298835b0712110641w39f59584i3a5beb3976c6f86e@mail.gmail.com> On Dec 10, 2007 4:05 PM, Rory Macdonald wrote: > The only evening I have free this week is tomorrow night (and possibly > Thursday) :-( so I won't see y'all until the new year I was hoping to attend my first Pm meeting but I have visitors from overseas... :( --Paolo Greco, "If it's not on fire, it's a software problem." -- From perl at minty.org Wed Dec 12 02:44:23 2007 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:44:23 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Dec 12th Wednesday evening meeting Message-ID: <20071212104422.GF23890@minty.org> heh, I'll be there, enjoying the cheap rounds :) From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Dec 12 03:08:15 2007 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:08:15 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Dec 12th Wednesday evening meeting In-Reply-To: <20071212104422.GF23890@minty.org> References: <20071212104422.GF23890@minty.org> Message-ID: <20071212110815.GA7234@aaroncrane.co.uk> Murray writes: > heh, I'll be there, enjoying the cheap rounds :) Me too. -- Aaron Crane From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Wed Dec 12 03:10:25 2007 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:10:25 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Can't make Wednesday :-( In-Reply-To: <6298835b0712110641w39f59584i3a5beb3976c6f86e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6298835b0712110641w39f59584i3a5beb3976c6f86e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071212111025.GB7234@aaroncrane.co.uk> Paolo Greco writes: > I was hoping to attend my first Pm meeting but I have visitors from > overseas... :( Shame you won't be able to make it -- new faces are always most welcome! Maybe your visitors would like to join us too? Don't worry if they're not Perl people; we don't typically talk about Perl much. Either way, we'll hope to see you in the new year sometime. -- Aaron Crane From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Wed Dec 12 04:28:31 2007 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:28:31 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Dec 12th Wednesday evening meeting In-Reply-To: <20071212110815.GA7234@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20071212104422.GF23890@minty.org> <20071212110815.GA7234@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: I'll be there too. Wim On 12/12/2007, Aaron Crane wrote: > > Murray writes: > > heh, I'll be there, enjoying the cheap rounds :) > > Me too. > > -- > Aaron Crane > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/edinburgh-pm/attachments/20071212/e8460957/attachment.html From Ian.Stuart at ed.ac.uk Mon Dec 17 04:01:48 2007 From: Ian.Stuart at ed.ac.uk (Ian Stuart) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:01:48 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] IDE with project-wide scope Message-ID: <4766652C.5060408@ed.ac.uk> Up until now, I've been developing my projects directly on the main servers that will eventually host them (well, actually, the development servers, but they run the same OS configurations), editing files and keeping a track of the objects and dependencies in my head (and PODed, of course). Things are getting to the stage where the applications are just too big and too complex to do this rationally (not for a proper service environment). What I would really like is some form of editor that will keep track of an entire Application, allow me to see the methods available in each of the packages, see how the packages and scripts inter-relate (I've a couple of hundred, all in :-( ), and also allow me to edit any of these files as I need. Having code-folding, syntax highlighting, and other editor-candy would also be good. Anyone got any sugegstions? I've tried Eclipse (I used sshfs to "mount" the application into my local space), but I can't get to grips with it... I may need to persevere here :-) -- Ian Stuart. Bibliographics and Multimedia Service Delivery team, EDINA, The University of Edinburgh. http://edina.ac.uk/ From fontani at gmail.com Mon Dec 17 09:40:12 2007 From: fontani at gmail.com (Marco Fontani) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:40:12 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] IDE with project-wide scope In-Reply-To: <4766652C.5060408@ed.ac.uk> References: <4766652C.5060408@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <5fb330de0712170940t65c4c78bi4d9587b153176c9a@mail.gmail.com> Personally, I use Eclipse a lot, apart for some GIT projects which don't integrate as well. I feel quite comfortable with gVim though, for the plug-in perl-support (http://lug.fh-swf.de/vim/vim-perl/screenshots-en.html) gVim does the code folding (if you want), and the module perl-support also includes tags support (using ctags): I just press F8 and it comes up with all the tags in the file (browseable), and the various POD sections as well. I'm pretty sure (to please the fans of the Escape Meta Alt Cokebottle Shift operating system) that there's something quite similar for it as well. I know I've used c-mode and perl-mode in the past, but can't remember much about it -marco- From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Tue Dec 18 10:34:26 2007 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:34:26 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Perl 5.10 Message-ID: <20071218183425.GA3460@aaroncrane.co.uk> For those who haven't already heard elsewhere, Perl 5.10 was released mere minutes ago, thanks to the hard work of the pumpking and all the perl5-porters: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.perl5.porters/53936 According to `perldoc perlhist`, Perl 1.000 was released on 18th December 1987. So 5.10 is the 20th birthday release of Perl, pleasingly enough. -- Aaron Crane From asmith9983 at gmail.com Wed Dec 19 13:37:40 2007 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (asmith9983 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Language Discussion & Perl 5.10 Message-ID: Last meeting Nick,Wim and I were talking about features in Perl 5.10, such as closures, continuations, and Haskell. 5.10 is now released. Would there be any interest by those edinburgh Perl-mongers who are not just interested in the new features, but how they can be best used and how they compare to other programming languages be interested in getting together at my house EH3 5PZ(near Royal Botanic Garden) on say Sat Jan 5th 2008 from 11am ? I can provide a dual core Athlon-64, with 4Gn RAM with the latest Ubuntu, and by then hopefully running XP on virtual machines to run Windows Perl 5.10. I'd connect the system to a multi-media projector and wireless kbd/mouse that can be passed around. It would have a good Internet connection. Bring your own lunch, cold turkey, or something to microwave or oven heat. I've got plenty water for tea/coffee. So we could call it the "Edinburgh Perl Mongers January picnic". We'd still have our usual meeting at the Guildford on the 9th, which is why I suggested the 5th Feedback please. -- Andrew From robrwo at gmail.com Wed Dec 19 21:05:06 2007 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:05:06 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Language Discussion & Perl 5.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think I may be able to come by, yes. On 19/12/2007, asmith9983 at gmail.com wrote: > > Last meeting Nick,Wim and I were talking about features in Perl 5.10, > such as > closures, continuations, and Haskell. > > 5.10 is now released. > > Would there be any interest by those edinburgh Perl-mongers who are not > just > interested in the new features, but how they can be best used and how > they > compare to other programming languages be interested in getting together > at my > house EH3 5PZ(near Royal Botanic Garden) on say Sat Jan 5th 2008 from > 11am ? > I can > provide a dual core Athlon-64, with 4Gn RAM with the latest Ubuntu, and by > then hopefully running XP on virtual machines to run Windows Perl 5.10. > I'd > connect the system to a multi-media projector and wireless kbd/mouse that > can > be passed around. It would have a good Internet connection. > > Bring your own lunch, cold turkey, or something to microwave or oven heat. > I've got plenty water for tea/coffee. So > we could call it the "Edinburgh Perl Mongers January picnic". > > > We'd still have our usual meeting at the Guildford on the 9th, which is > why I > suggested the 5th > > Feedback please. > > -- > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/edinburgh-pm/attachments/20071220/5908599a/attachment.html From rory.macdonald at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 01:05:32 2007 From: rory.macdonald at gmail.com (Rory Macdonald) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:05:32 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Language Discussion & Perl 5.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/19/07, asmith9983 at gmail.com wrote: > Last meeting Nick,Wim and I were talking about features in Perl 5.10, such as > closures, continuations, and Haskell. > > 5.10 is now released. > > Would there be any interest by those edinburgh Perl-mongers who are not just > interested in the new features, but how they can be best used ... I can't make it, but would be interested in a summary of any assessments. Rory From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Thu Dec 20 05:52:38 2007 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:52:38 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Language Discussion & Perl 5.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071220135238.GH7232@aaroncrane.co.uk> asmith9983 at gmail.com writes: > Would there be any interest by those edinburgh Perl-mongers who are > not just interested in the new features, but how they can be best used > and how they compare to other programming languages be interested in > getting together at my house EH3 5PZ(near Royal Botanic Garden) on say > Sat Jan 5th 2008 from 11am ? Sounds like an interesting idea. I should be there. -- Aaron Crane From wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 12:57:25 2007 From: wim.vanderbauwhede at gmail.com (Wim Vanderbauwhede) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:57:25 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Language Discussion & Perl 5.10 In-Reply-To: <20071220135238.GH7232@aaroncrane.co.uk> References: <20071220135238.GH7232@aaroncrane.co.uk> Message-ID: Great idea, I'd love to come -- unfortunately I can't make it on the 5th. Wim On 20/12/2007, Aaron Crane wrote: > > asmith9983 at gmail.com writes: > > Would there be any interest by those edinburgh Perl-mongers who are > > not just interested in the new features, but how they can be best used > > and how they compare to other programming languages be interested in > > getting together at my house EH3 5PZ(near Royal Botanic Garden) on say > > Sat Jan 5th 2008 from 11am ? > > Sounds like an interesting idea. I should be there. > > -- > Aaron Crane > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/edinburgh-pm/attachments/20071220/0dc80889/attachment.html