From toddr at cpanel.net  Sat Feb  9 11:34:33 2013
From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:34:33 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Are you coming to YAPC this year in Austin?
Message-ID: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>

Dallas Perl Mongers,

This is Todd down in Houston. I want to make sure you're aware of the upcoming YAPC (Yet ANOTHER Perl Conference) which will be held in Austin this year June 3-5.

If you plan to go to YAPC or would like to find out more about it, I encourage you to go to http://yapcna.org , Create an account and/or login, and register for YAPC. No payment is required to register. It's just a way of indicating you plan to come. Make sure you specify your perl monger group. Right now Houston.pm is beating out Dallas (SirSpammenot) and Austin (Jeremy) for attendees: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/stats

You should also join the yapc at pm.org mailing list. In addition to finding out about what's happening at YAPC, it's a great way to communicate with fellow attendees before and during the conference. http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc

Cheers,
Todd Rinaldo

P.S. The database used for last year is not the same as this year, so if you've only been to YAPC 2012, you'll need to create a new account.


From wigthft at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 12:59:43 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:59:43 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Are you coming to YAPC this year in Austin?
In-Reply-To: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>
References: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <CAL-G4Sj+5wXAG8bx4+Cj_aqPQoVzV1BkA64g699WhPGbtL55Lg@mail.gmail.com>

Todd,
Odd news since I did use my (only) 2012 user credentials to sign up earlier
this week.

But, we are working on renting a MegaBUS for the trip there and back.  Once
it is half full we are getting all the seats we can. :)
 On Feb 9, 2013 1:34 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at cpanel.net> wrote:

> Dallas Perl Mongers,
>
> This is Todd down in Houston. I want to make sure you're aware of the
> upcoming YAPC (Yet ANOTHER Perl Conference) which will be held in Austin
> this year June 3-5.
>
> If you plan to go to YAPC or would like to find out more about it, I
> encourage you to go to http://yapcna.org , Create an account and/or
> login, and register for YAPC. No payment is required to register. It's just
> a way of indicating you plan to come. Make sure you specify your perl
> monger group. Right now Houston.pm is beating out Dallas (SirSpammenot) and
> Austin (Jeremy) for attendees: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/stats
>
> You should also join the yapc at pm.org mailing list. In addition to finding
> out about what's happening at YAPC, it's a great way to communicate with
> fellow attendees before and during the conference.
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
> Cheers,
> Todd Rinaldo
>
> P.S. The database used for last year is not the same as this year, so if
> you've only been to YAPC 2012, you'll need to create a new account.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
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From cjcervenka at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  9 17:18:07 2013
From: cjcervenka at yahoo.com (Clement Cervenka)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
Message-ID: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

?
Hi All,
?
I don't remember if I posted this already, if so, sorry for the repeat,
if not, then here goes, movies are all sequels as well as the games.
However, the consoles 4 boxes are due out after E3 this year, they 
will be 3d ready, & hi res vid stream as well. HOW FOR THE BAD NEWS,
YET, ITS BAD, SONY WANTS TO END DISK PLAYING AND SWITCH TO PAID 
SUBSCRIPTION JUST LIKE XBOY, IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, SONY WANTS THE G-DISK
SOLD WITH PIN # (INSERT PIN # TO PLAY OR SURRENDER BOTH PIN # & G DISK 
TO SELL LETS SAY TO GAMESTOP, IF YOU DON'T SONY WILL FREEZE YOU OR LOCK
OUT OF THEIR GAMING SERVER ;)) GET OVER IT ;))
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
Feb 14 A Good Day To Die Hard-5
March 29 GI Joe-Retaliation-2
May 3 Iron Man-3
17 Star Trek-Into Darkness-12
24 Fast & Furious-6
Hangover-3
Pirates Of The Caribbean-5
June 14 Man Of Steel-7
21 Monsters University-2
July 3 The Long Ranger
Despicable Me-2
26 The Wolverine-6 
31 The Smurfs-2
Aug 9 Robo Cop
16 Percy Jackson-Sea Of Monsters-2
Oct 25 Paranormal Activity-5
Nov 8 Thor:The Dark World-2
22 The Hunger Games-Catching Fire-2
Dec 13 The Hobbit-The Desolation Of Smaug-2
20 Muppets Movie
20 Anchorman:The Legend Continues (Ron Burgundy)-2
25 Jack Ryan (Bourne Legacy)-5
?
2013 
Grand Theft Auto-5
MechWarrior Tactics 
The Sims 3:Island Paradise
The Sims 3:University Life
Final Fantasy XIV Online-14 
Star Craft 2:Legacy Of The Void-2
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 
Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6:Patriots-6 
February 19 Metal Gear Rising:Revengeance
March 5 SimCity 
Tomb Raider 
God of War:Ascension
Star Craft 2:Heart Of The Swarm-2
Gears Of War:Judgment
Resident Evil-6 
May 21Resident Evil:Revelations 
August 20 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell:Blacklist
?
Wii U Panorama View 
Nintendo?s Game Boy Advance Console
Xbox 720-4 (Microsoft's Internal Codename Is Durango/Kryptos)
Playstation-PS-4 ( Sony?s Internal Codename Is Orbis/Thebes)
(Sony's E3 2013 Press Conference In Los Angeles Between 11-13 June 2013)
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From nick at nickandperla.net  Sat Feb  9 23:56:30 2013
From: nick at nickandperla.net (Nick Perez)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:56:30 +0100
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
In-Reply-To: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
Clement Cervenka <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ?
> Hi All,

[snip giant amounts of spam]

Look, this is completely unrelated and unacceptable. You consistently
spam the list with nonsense. Why are you even subscribed? Don't send
this kind of shit to the list again. 

-- 

Nicholas Perez
XMPP/Email: nick at nickandperla.net
https://metacpan.org/author/NPEREZ
http://github.com/nperez

From robert.eaglestone at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 06:13:45 2013
From: robert.eaglestone at gmail.com (Rob Eaglestone)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:13:45 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
In-Reply-To: <20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>
References: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>
Message-ID: <CABNTyr9dDHBroV8+d6yTFtvFxqz=hxKBdbk+sQcs50D_Sb6hZQ@mail.gmail.com>

It's probably just a spam process.  Can his address be removed and blocked?

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Nick Perez <nick at nickandperla.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
> Clement Cervenka <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
>
> [snip giant amounts of spam]
>
> Look, this is completely unrelated and unacceptable. You consistently
> spam the list with nonsense. Why are you even subscribed? Don't send
> this kind of shit to the list again.
>
> --
>
> Nicholas Perez
> XMPP/Email: nick at nickandperla.net
> https://metacpan.org/author/NPEREZ
> http://github.com/nperez
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
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From wigthft at gmail.com  Sun Feb 10 16:14:10 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:14:10 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
In-Reply-To: <CABNTyr9dDHBroV8+d6yTFtvFxqz=hxKBdbk+sQcs50D_Sb6hZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>
	<CABNTyr9dDHBroV8+d6yTFtvFxqz=hxKBdbk+sQcs50D_Sb6hZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL-G4ShPAuJ7yMFnFitv1+F+GFoRGT2dx41zhKGcSTfkmXGq9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I sent a warning email last time this happened, with no reply. He has been
warned and be removed.
 On Feb 10, 2013 8:13 AM, "Rob Eaglestone" <robert.eaglestone at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It's probably just a spam process.  Can his address be removed and blocked?
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Nick Perez <nick at nickandperla.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
>> Clement Cervenka <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>>
>> [snip giant amounts of spam]
>>
>> Look, this is completely unrelated and unacceptable. You consistently
>> spam the list with nonsense. Why are you even subscribed? Don't send
>> this kind of shit to the list again.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Nicholas Perez
>> XMPP/Email: nick at nickandperla.net
>> https://metacpan.org/author/NPEREZ
>> http://github.com/nperez
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
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From cjcervenka at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 11 10:30:27 2013
From: cjcervenka at yahoo.com (Clement Cervenka)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:30:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
In-Reply-To: <CAL-G4ShPAuJ7yMFnFitv1+F+GFoRGT2dx41zhKGcSTfkmXGq9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>
	<CABNTyr9dDHBroV8+d6yTFtvFxqz=hxKBdbk+sQcs50D_Sb6hZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL-G4ShPAuJ7yMFnFitv1+F+GFoRGT2dx41zhKGcSTfkmXGq9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1360607427.73947.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

?
Hi All,
?
Just wanted to thank everyone for their time and patience.
?
After 3 days @ Best Buy and $180.00 worth of whatever, I' ve 
told that everything back to normal. 
?
Please accept my apostles and thanks for?everyone?understanding.
?
This whatever, is going around, so be on the lookout. 
?
Again, thanks
?
Joe Cervenka
 

________________________________
 From: John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com>
To: dfw-pm at pm.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
  

I sent a warning email last time this happened, with no reply. He has been? warned and be removed.
 
On Feb 10, 2013 8:13 AM, "Rob Eaglestone" <robert.eaglestone at gmail.com> wrote:

It's probably just a spam process. ?Can his address be removed and blocked?
>
>
>On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Nick Perez <nick at nickandperla.net> wrote:
>
>On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
>>Clement Cervenka <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ?
>>> Hi All,
>>
>>[snip giant amounts of spam]
>>
>>Look, this is completely unrelated and unacceptable. You consistently
>>spam the list with nonsense. Why are you even subscribed? Don't send
>>this kind of shit to the list again.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Nicholas Perez
>>XMPP/Email: nick at nickandperla.net
>>https://metacpan.org/author/NPEREZ
>>http://github.com/nperez
>>_______________________________________________
>>Dfw-pm mailing list
>>Dfw-pm at pm.org
>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Dfw-pm mailing list
>Dfw-pm at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
> 
_______________________________________________
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From toddr at cpanel.net  Mon Feb 11 12:40:27 2013
From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:40:27 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Are you coming to YAPC this year in Austin?
In-Reply-To: <CAL-G4Sj+5wXAG8bx4+Cj_aqPQoVzV1BkA64g699WhPGbtL55Lg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>
	<CAL-G4Sj+5wXAG8bx4+Cj_aqPQoVzV1BkA64g699WhPGbtL55Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D29AEF34-EC55-4A00-B187-0A6EA402DFF9@cpanel.net>

Apologies for not saying Dallas/Ft. Worth Perl Mongers...

John, This sounds really cool. Are you interested in us blogging about it? 

Thanks,
Todd

On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:59 PM, John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com> wrote:

> Todd,
> Odd news since I did use my (only) 2012 user credentials to sign up earlier this week.
> 
> But, we are working on renting a MegaBUS for the trip there and back.  Once it is half full we are getting all the seats we can. :)
> On Feb 9, 2013 1:34 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at cpanel.net> wrote:
> Dallas Perl Mongers,
> 
> This is Todd down in Houston. I want to make sure you're aware of the upcoming YAPC (Yet ANOTHER Perl Conference) which will be held in Austin this year June 3-5.
> 
> If you plan to go to YAPC or would like to find out more about it, I encourage you to go to http://yapcna.org , Create an account and/or login, and register for YAPC. No payment is required to register. It's just a way of indicating you plan to come. Make sure you specify your perl monger group. Right now Houston.pm is beating out Dallas (SirSpammenot) and Austin (Jeremy) for attendees: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/stats
> 
> You should also join the yapc at pm.org mailing list. In addition to finding out about what's happening at YAPC, it's a great way to communicate with fellow attendees before and during the conference. http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
> 
> Cheers,
> Todd Rinaldo
> 
> P.S. The database used for last year is not the same as this year, so if you've only been to YAPC 2012, you'll need to create a new account.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm

Todd Rinaldo
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From wigthft at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 13:26:25 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:26:25 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Are you coming to YAPC this year in Austin?
In-Reply-To: <D29AEF34-EC55-4A00-B187-0A6EA402DFF9@cpanel.net>
References: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>
	<CAL-G4Sj+5wXAG8bx4+Cj_aqPQoVzV1BkA64g699WhPGbtL55Lg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D29AEF34-EC55-4A00-B187-0A6EA402DFF9@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <51196201.4020605@gmail.com>

Sure thing. There are details to work out, like getting a bus full of people from the bus station to the hotel...

But the gist is power plugs and WiFi on the bus, large seats with individual air controls, super cheap (like $2!) if you book a 
month in advance.

I'll get back to you on it?
JF


On 02/11/2013 02:40 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
> Apologies for not saying Dallas/Ft. Worth Perl Mongers...
>
> John, This sounds really cool. Are you interested in us blogging about it?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:59 PM, John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com <mailto:wigthft at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Todd,
>> Odd news since I did use my (only) 2012 user credentials to sign up earlier this week.
>>
>> But, we are working on renting a MegaBUS for the trip there and back.  Once it is half full we are getting all the seats we can. :)
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2013 1:34 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at cpanel.net <mailto:toddr at cpanel.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dallas Perl Mongers,
>>
>>     This is Todd down in Houston. I want to make sure you're aware of the upcoming YAPC (Yet ANOTHER Perl Conference) which will
>>     be held in Austin this year June 3-5.
>>
>>     If you plan to go to YAPC or would like to find out more about it, I encourage you to go to http://yapcna.org
>>     <http://yapcna.org/> , Create an account and/or login, and register for YAPC. No payment is required to register. It's just a
>>     way of indicating you plan to come. Make sure you specify your perl monger group. Right now Houston.pm is beating out Dallas
>>     (SirSpammenot) and Austin (Jeremy) for attendees: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/stats
>>
>>     You should also join the yapc at pm.org <mailto:yapc at pm.org> mailing list. In addition to finding out about what's happening at
>>     YAPC, it's a great way to communicate with fellow attendees before and during the conference.
>>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     Todd Rinaldo
>>
>>     P.S. The database used for last year is not the same as this year, so if you've only been to YAPC 2012, you'll need to create
>>     a new account.
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Dfw-pm mailing list
>>     Dfw-pm at pm.org <mailto:Dfw-pm at pm.org>
>>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>> Dfw-pm at pm.org <mailto:Dfw-pm at pm.org>
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
> Todd Rinaldo
> toddr at cpanel.net <mailto:toddr at cpanel.net>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jswitzer at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 15:00:24 2013
From: jswitzer at gmail.com (Jason Switzer)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:00:24 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Are you coming to YAPC this year in Austin?
In-Reply-To: <51196201.4020605@gmail.com>
References: <14317654-97C6-4927-A657-529E25FDCF63@cpanel.net>
	<CAL-G4Sj+5wXAG8bx4+Cj_aqPQoVzV1BkA64g699WhPGbtL55Lg@mail.gmail.com>
	<D29AEF34-EC55-4A00-B187-0A6EA402DFF9@cpanel.net>
	<51196201.4020605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKpYsVGktJ8-SazOpwk_E6y5EjPt1gyEvf4fWJnu9Q1TEhBj-A@mail.gmail.com>

Being an Austin native, I look forward to attending this years YAPC::NA.
However, I have family in town so I won't need transportation or housing.

-Jason "s1n" Switzer
On Feb 11, 2013 3:26 PM, "John Fields" <wigthft at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Sure thing. There are details to work out, like getting a bus full of
> people from the bus station to the hotel...
>
> But the gist is power plugs and WiFi on the bus, large seats with
> individual air controls, super cheap (like $2!) if you book a month in
> advance.
>
> I'll get back to you on it?
> JF
>
>
> On 02/11/2013 02:40 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
>
> Apologies for not saying Dallas/Ft. Worth Perl Mongers...
>
>  John, This sounds really cool. Are you interested in us blogging about
> it?
>
>  Thanks,
> Todd
>
>  On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:59 PM, John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Todd,
> Odd news since I did use my (only) 2012 user credentials to sign up
> earlier this week.
>
> But, we are working on renting a MegaBUS for the trip there and back.
> Once it is half full we are getting all the seats we can. :)
>  On Feb 9, 2013 1:34 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at cpanel.net> wrote:
>
>> Dallas Perl Mongers,
>>
>> This is Todd down in Houston. I want to make sure you're aware of the
>> upcoming YAPC (Yet ANOTHER Perl Conference) which will be held in Austin
>> this year June 3-5.
>>
>> If you plan to go to YAPC or would like to find out more about it, I
>> encourage you to go to http://yapcna.org , Create an account and/or
>> login, and register for YAPC. No payment is required to register. It's just
>> a way of indicating you plan to come. Make sure you specify your perl
>> monger group. Right now Houston.pm is beating out Dallas (SirSpammenot) and
>> Austin (Jeremy) for attendees: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/stats
>>
>> You should also join the yapc at pm.org mailing list. In addition to
>> finding out about what's happening at YAPC, it's a great way to communicate
>> with fellow attendees before and during the conference.
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Todd Rinaldo
>>
>> P.S. The database used for last year is not the same as this year, so if
>> you've only been to YAPC 2012, you'll need to create a new account.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>
>  _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
>
>  Todd Rinaldo
> toddr at cpanel.net
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing listDfw-pm at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
>
>
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From wigthft at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 20:50:32 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:50:32 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
In-Reply-To: <1360607427.73947.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1360459087.14897.YahooMailNeo@web161205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<20130210085630.5561f41b@nicklaptop.home.nickandperla.net>
	<CABNTyr9dDHBroV8+d6yTFtvFxqz=hxKBdbk+sQcs50D_Sb6hZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL-G4ShPAuJ7yMFnFitv1+F+GFoRGT2dx41zhKGcSTfkmXGq9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<1360607427.73947.YahooMailNeo@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAL-G4SjrrktTuhXDMjio5qLqqpTB1Tw9N4KDrYF4eOkcCHoSrg@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,
Best of luck with the virus fixing!

Be advised your posts will be moderated for a while, which means one of the
admins will have to manually let it through to the list.

Feel free to participate in discussions or to ask Perl questions. That is
why we are all here, looking forward to learning and doing more Perl with
you!
 On Feb 11, 2013 12:30 PM, "Clement Cervenka" <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> Just wanted to thank everyone for their time and patience.
>
> After 3 days @ Best Buy and $180.00 worth of whatever, I' ve
> told that everything back to normal.
>
> Please accept my apostles and thanks for everyone understanding.
>
> This whatever, is going around, so be on the lookout.
>
> Again, thanks
>
> Joe Cervenka
>
>    *From:* John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com>
> *To:* dfw-pm at pm.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DFW.pm] Upcoming Movies & Games
>
> I sent a warning email last time this happened, with no reply. He has
> been  warned and be removed.
>  On Feb 10, 2013 8:13 AM, "Rob Eaglestone" <robert.eaglestone at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's probably just a spam process.  Can his address be removed and blocked?
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Nick Perez <nick at nickandperla.net> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:18:07 -0800 (PST)
> Clement Cervenka <cjcervenka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
>
> [snip giant amounts of spam]
>
> Look, this is completely unrelated and unacceptable. You consistently
> spam the list with nonsense. Why are you even subscribed? Don't send
> this kind of shit to the list again.
>
> --
>
> Nicholas Perez
> XMPP/Email: nick at nickandperla.net
> https://metacpan.org/author/NPEREZ
> http://github.com/nperez
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>
>
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From pmichaud at pobox.com  Tue Feb 12 10:20:00 2013
From: pmichaud at pobox.com (Patrick R. Michaud)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:20:00 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Meetings tonight, tomorrow?
Message-ID: <20130212182000.GA22181@pmichaud.com>

Anyone planning to head over to Peets in Allen tonight?
I have only a 50% chance of making it.

Is there a DFW.pm meeting tomorrow night?

Pm

From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 12 10:25:34 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:25:34 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Meetings tonight, tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <20130212182000.GA22181@pmichaud.com>
References: <20130212182000.GA22181@pmichaud.com>
Message-ID: <511A891E.5090501@internetalias.net>

There is /*absolutely*/ a Perl Mongers meeting tomorrow night.  Watch
this list for an announcement from John Fields.  We'll pick up where we
left off with last week's meeting, this time getting down to business
and really working with some code and with git -- so you'll want to
bring a laptop again if possible.

It will be at the same time (7pm), and at the same location (below).

    2995 Ladybird Lane, Dallas, TX
    www.dallasmakerspace.org
    (214)699-6537

Again, watch for the official announcement from John Fields who will be
spearheading this month's meeting.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/12/2013 12:20 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> Anyone planning to head over to Peets in Allen tonight?
> I have only a 50% chance of making it.
>
> Is there a DFW.pm meeting tomorrow night?

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From wigthft at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 10:35:24 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:35:24 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Meetings tonight, tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <20130212182000.GA22181@pmichaud.com>
References: <20130212182000.GA22181@pmichaud.com>
Message-ID: <CAL-G4SjeYPLipLYuZDxVw+C=jH_O=rfpduPg6XfZc32moa=Tjw@mail.gmail.com>

I had tonight on my list!  I will post about tomorrow's meeting in a moment.

*Turns out Waters Creek has one of Allen's few Electric car charging
stations and I haven't ever used one yet, so I had a selfish reason to come
out there. ;)
 On Feb 12, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrick R. Michaud" <pmichaud at pobox.com> wrote:

> Anyone planning to head over to Peets in Allen tonight?
> I have only a 50% chance of making it.
>
> Is there a DFW.pm meeting tomorrow night?
>
> Pm
>
> --
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From robert.eaglestone at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 11:11:52 2013
From: robert.eaglestone at gmail.com (Rob Eaglestone)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:11:52 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Meetings tonight, tomorrow?
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Message-ID: <CABNTyr_rXcG1i2sB-PWrgj8FVt-rHRwaEgM=bC7u2tj1+77_2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I've wanted to attend the Perl at Peet's meetings, just haven't had the opp'ty
yet.

Seen those charging stations popping up recently around Plano...

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM, John Fields <wigthft at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had tonight on my list!  I will post about tomorrow's meeting in a
> moment.
>
> *Turns out Waters Creek has one of Allen's few Electric car charging
> stations and I haven't ever used one yet, so I had a selfish reason to come
> out there. ;)
>  On Feb 12, 2013 12:20 PM, "Patrick R. Michaud" <pmichaud at pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone planning to head over to Peets in Allen tonight?
>> I have only a 50% chance of making it.
>>
>> Is there a DFW.pm meeting tomorrow night?
>>
>> Pm
>>
>> --
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From wigthft at gmail.com  Tue Feb 12 17:50:35 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:50:35 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Wed Night Meeting!
Message-ID: <CAL-G4Sgx30J_V1a_iWDFQTqKwPOQ52DyLPPbC5C-MpqU=J4xFw@mail.gmail.com>

Just in time for Valentine's Day, your date will think that flush in your
cheeks is for them.  But we all know it is because you are sweet on Perl.
And it's sweet on you!

BAD PRACTICE HUNT!  We are going to put my Spammenot mailserver code on the
projector and play "spot the terrible use of Perl".  Everyone that finds
code that can be improved, or better yet should be avoided, and can tell us
why it's bad (or worse) gets a 32 ounce water bottle for their effort.
 Along with the warm feeling that comes along with punching my ego in the
metaphorical groin (I'm ready!)

Like these! http://sport.woot.com/offers/embark-32-ounce-water-bottle-2-pack

I am bringing a big box of them...

DAEMON FRAMEWORK? Next we are going to talk from a high level about how a
mail server actually works, that it is a glorified X, and what is the best
option to build the new server upon.  Currently it is a XINETD tied
process, but that has security issues and doesn't scale.  So we will be
looking, during the meeting, at selecting a pure perl (MPM || forking ||
daemon) from the CPAN that can scale from hobby to company use. OO/Moose
will definitely be a consideration/topic.

Expect to learn a lot - no matter where your skill sets are (we will be
visiting all over the place).

>-----------------------------------
This is the 3rd Meeting in the Makerspace, and have filled the seats each
time.  Come early for best choice!

7PM at www.dallasmakerspace.org for travel info

Hope to see you punching me there!
John Fields
469-688-7726 Cell
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 13 17:11:10 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:11:10 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Our github URL
Message-ID: <511C39AE.3050802@internetalias.net>

For tonight's meeting, download the spammenot code from our github repo

https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git

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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 19 08:44:11 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:44:11 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
Message-ID: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>

OK, so awesome news...
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Linux server donated by John Fields is online and ready to rock. 
Next time we meet, we'll start building the awesome things on it that we
talked about and planned during our meeting last Wednesday, like the
daemonized SpamMeNot application with the embedded Catalyst controller
and DBIx::Class backend, and eventually the web application that will
power our own website.

These things will start out simple, and then they will grow, as we grow
together.  At our next meeting we'll be doing some database design for
our application in a hackathon format, so you're going to get some
exposure to *SQL* on Linux.  Please be ready to bring a laptop and a friend.

Our development server is at *http://perl.atrixnet.com* because it's
hosted out of my home lab for the time being, and I have lifetime free
dyndns for the atrixnet.com domain due to a generous gift by the dyndns
organization several years back in support of my long-time involvement
in Perl.
/
Please don't attempt to SSH into the server right now./  Your IP segment
will be automatically blacklisted after a few failed attempts, and it
only accepts SSH keys anyway (no passwords).  Please wait to receive
your SSH key at our next meeting or contact me privately to talk about
getting an account set up if you'd like to poke around before then. 
Access will be subject to an approval process including having
personally met with John Fields and/or me as a primary requirement.

Remember that our project files are hosted on github
<https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git> and you can hack on them at
any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on
the list.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, the rest of this email you can skip if you don't like touchy-feely
stuff.  This is just an expression of my gratitude to you good folks and
doesn't have anything technologically pertinent to the announcements above.

My personal motto is to always /*"keep improving"*/, and while I would
never attempt to assert my own beliefs or feelings on others, I do know
that this core principle of open source and Perl in general will carry
us forward to good things in the future as we apply it in our monthly
gatherings.  We meet together, we learn, and we work in order to improve
ourselves and that is a lot of fun.

Thank you for being a DFW Perl monger.  Thank you for coming to our
meetings.  Thank you for following the mailing list.  Thank you for your
contributions, great and small, that help us /*"keep improving"*/.

-- 
Tommy Butler, John Fields

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From saj at thecommune.net  Tue Feb 19 09:09:47 2013
From: saj at thecommune.net (Stuart Johnston)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:09:47 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <5123B1DB.4080407@thecommune.net>

Are you planning to have dfw.pm.org updated to point at this site?  Or, 
since it is currently static HTML, I could copy it over manually.


On 2/19/2013 10:44 AM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> OK, so awesome news...
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Linux server donated by John Fields is online and ready to rock.
> Next time we meet, we'll start building the awesome things on it that we
> talked about and planned during our meeting last Wednesday, like the
> daemonized SpamMeNot application with the embedded Catalyst controller
> and DBIx::Class backend, and eventually the web application that will
> power our own website.
>
> These things will start out simple, and then they will grow, as we grow
> together.  At our next meeting we'll be doing some database design for
> our application in a hackathon format, so you're going to get some
> exposure to *SQL* on Linux.  Please be ready to bring a laptop and a friend.
>
> Our development server is at *http://perl.atrixnet.com* because it's
> hosted out of my home lab for the time being, and I have lifetime free
> dyndns for the atrixnet.com domain due to a generous gift by the dyndns
> organization several years back in support of my long-time involvement
> in Perl.
> /
> Please don't attempt to SSH into the server right now./  Your IP segment
> will be automatically blacklisted after a few failed attempts, and it
> only accepts SSH keys anyway (no passwords). Please wait to receive your
> SSH key at our next meeting or contact me privately to talk about
> getting an account set up if you'd like to poke around before then.
> Access will be subject to an approval process including having
> personally met with John Fields and/or me as a primary requirement.
>
> Remember that our project files are hosted on github
> <https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git> and you can hack on them at
> any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on
> the list.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now, the rest of this email you can skip if you don't like touchy-feely
> stuff.  This is just an expression of my gratitude to you good folks and
> doesn't have anything technologically pertinent to the announcements above.
>
> My personal motto is to always /*"keep improving"*/, and while I would
> never attempt to assert my own beliefs or feelings on others, I do know
> that this core principle of open source and Perl in general will carry
> us forward to good things in the future as we apply it in our monthly
> gatherings.  We meet together, we learn, and we work in order to improve
> ourselves and that is a lot of fun.
>
> Thank you for being a DFW Perl monger.  Thank you for coming to our
> meetings.  Thank you for following the mailing list.  Thank you for your
> contributions, great and small, that help us /*"keep improving"*/.
>
> --
> Tommy Butler, John Fields
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>


From masterbucket at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 19 09:13:01 2013
From: masterbucket at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:13:01 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <5123B1DB.4080407@thecommune.net>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
	<5123B1DB.4080407@thecommune.net>
Message-ID: <e50ce455-11a7-4cd4-86de-289319a3a924@email.android.com>

Eventually I will make arrangements to move our server to a data center and use the DFW.pm.org domain. For now, please do go ahead and copy the static HTML over to our site, if that's possible.

Thank you so much!

-- 
Tommy Butler

Stuart Johnston <saj at thecommune.net> wrote:

>Are you planning to have dfw.pm.org updated to point at this site?  Or,
>
>since it is currently static HTML, I could copy it over manually.
>
>
>On 2/19/2013 10:44 AM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>> OK, so awesome news...
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> The Linux server donated by John Fields is online and ready to rock.
>> Next time we meet, we'll start building the awesome things on it that
>we
>> talked about and planned during our meeting last Wednesday, like the
>> daemonized SpamMeNot application with the embedded Catalyst
>controller
>> and DBIx::Class backend, and eventually the web application that will
>> power our own website.
>>
>> These things will start out simple, and then they will grow, as we
>grow
>> together.  At our next meeting we'll be doing some database design
>for
>> our application in a hackathon format, so you're going to get some
>> exposure to *SQL* on Linux.  Please be ready to bring a laptop and a
>friend.
>>
>> Our development server is at *http://perl.atrixnet.com* because it's
>> hosted out of my home lab for the time being, and I have lifetime
>free
>> dyndns for the atrixnet.com domain due to a generous gift by the
>dyndns
>> organization several years back in support of my long-time
>involvement
>> in Perl.
>> /
>> Please don't attempt to SSH into the server right now./  Your IP
>segment
>> will be automatically blacklisted after a few failed attempts, and it
>> only accepts SSH keys anyway (no passwords). Please wait to receive
>your
>> SSH key at our next meeting or contact me privately to talk about
>> getting an account set up if you'd like to poke around before then.
>> Access will be subject to an approval process including having
>> personally met with John Fields and/or me as a primary requirement.
>>
>> Remember that our project files are hosted on github
>> <https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git> and you can hack on them
>at
>> any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on
>> the list.
>>
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Now, the rest of this email you can skip if you don't like
>touchy-feely
>> stuff.  This is just an expression of my gratitude to you good folks
>and
>> doesn't have anything technologically pertinent to the announcements
>above.
>>
>> My personal motto is to always /*"keep improving"*/, and while I
>would
>> never attempt to assert my own beliefs or feelings on others, I do
>know
>> that this core principle of open source and Perl in general will
>carry
>> us forward to good things in the future as we apply it in our monthly
>> gatherings.  We meet together, we learn, and we work in order to
>improve
>> ourselves and that is a lot of fun.
>>
>> Thank you for being a DFW Perl monger.  Thank you for coming to our
>> meetings.  Thank you for following the mailing list.  Thank you for
>your
>> contributions, great and small, that help us /*"keep improving"*/.
>>
>> --
>> Tommy Butler, John Fields
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Dfw-pm mailing list
>Dfw-pm at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From saj at thecommune.net  Tue Feb 19 09:27:50 2013
From: saj at thecommune.net (Stuart Johnston)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:27:50 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <e50ce455-11a7-4cd4-86de-289319a3a924@email.android.com>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
	<5123B1DB.4080407@thecommune.net>
	<e50ce455-11a7-4cd4-86de-289319a3a924@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <5123B616.8070304@thecommune.net>

I probably shouldn't have offered so quickly.  The password Nick gave me 
doesn't work anymore (not surprising).  It looks like you are the 
official leader now so you probably have access.  Or you can open a 
ticket to have my account (sjohnston) given permission.


On 2/19/2013 11:13 AM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> Eventually I will make arrangements to move our server to a data center
> and use the DFW.pm.org <http://DFW.pm.org> domain. For now, please do go
> ahead and copy the static HTML over to our site, if that's possible.
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> --
> Tommy Butler
>
> Stuart Johnston <saj at thecommune.net> wrote:
>
>     Are you planning to havedfw.pm.org  <http://dfw.pm.org>  updated to point at this site?  Or,
>     since it is currently static HTML, I could copy it over manually.
>
>
>     On 2/19/2013 10:44 AM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>
>         OK, so awesome news...
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>         The Linux server donated by John Fields is online and ready to rock.
>         Next time we meet, we'll start building the awesome things on it
>         that we
>         talked about and planned during our meeting last Wednesday, like the
>         daemonized SpamMeNot application with the embedded Catalyst
>         controller
>         and DBIx::Class backend, and eventually the web application that
>         will
>         power our own website.
>
>         These things will start out simple, and then they will grow, as
>         we grow
>         together. At our next meeting we'll be doing some database
>         design for
>         our application in a hackathon format, so you're going to get some
>         exposure to *SQL* on Linux. Please be ready to bring a laptop
>         and a friend.
>
>         Our development server is at *http://perl.atrixnet.com* because it's
>         hosted out of my home lab for the time being, and I have
>         lifetime free
>         dyndns for the atrixnet.com <http://atrixnet.com> domain due to
>         a generous gift by the dyndns
>         organization several years back in support of my long-time
>         involvement
>         in Perl.
>         /
>         Please don't attempt to SSH into the server right now./ Your IP
>         segment
>         will be automatically blacklisted after a few failed attempts,
>         and it
>         only accepts SSH keys anyway (no passwords). Please wait to
>         receive your
>         SSH key at our next meeting or contact me privately to talk about
>         getting an account set up if you'd like to poke aroun d before then.
>         Access will be subject to an approval process including having
>         personally met with John Fields and/or me as a primary requirement.
>
>         Remember that our project files are hosted on github
>         <https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git>; and you can hack on
>         them at
>         any time. If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on
>         the list.
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>         Now, the rest of this email you can skip if you don't like
>         touchy-feely
>         stuff. This is just an expression of my gratitude to you good
>         folks and
>         doesn't have anything technologically pertinent to the
>         announcements above.
>
>         My personal motto is to always /*"keep improving"*/, and while I
>         would
>         never attempt to assert my own beliefs or feelings on others, I
>         do know
>         that this core principle of open source and Perl in general will
>         carry
>         us forward to good things in the future as we apply it in our
>         monthly
>         gatherings. We meet together, we learn, and we work in order to
>         improve
>         ourselves and that is a lot of fun.
>
>         Thank you for being a DFW Perl monger. Thank you for coming to our
>         meetings. Thank you for following the mailing list. Thank you
>         for your
>         contributions, great and small, that help us /*"keep improving"*/.
>
>         --
>         Tommy Butler, John Fields
>
>
>
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From gbarr at pobox.com  Tue Feb 19 09:35:30 2013
From: gbarr at pobox.com (Graham Barr)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:35:30 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <2670F209-FF13-4F50-8AD1-C17F6017AFDA@pobox.com>


On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:44 , Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
> 
> Remember that our project files are hosted on https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git and you can hack on them at any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on the list.

I would recommend that you move the repository to be a github organization (say dfwpm), it is then easier to setup teams for access etc. And it makes it much easier in future when there is a need to change the main ownership.


Also, you could host the website there. I did this for perl-ldap. You first create a branch called gh-pages then add a file called CNAME with the hostname in it and configure DNS so that the host is a CNAME to dfwpm.github.com

eg

https://github.com/perl-ldap/perl-ldap/tree/gh-pages

Graham.


From pmichaud at pobox.com  Tue Feb 19 10:15:20 2013
From: pmichaud at pobox.com (Patrick R. Michaud)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:15:20 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <2670F209-FF13-4F50-8AD1-C17F6017AFDA@pobox.com>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
	<2670F209-FF13-4F50-8AD1-C17F6017AFDA@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20130219181520.GA12946@pmichaud.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0600, Graham Barr wrote:
> 
> I would recommend that you move the repository to be a github 
> organization (say dfwpm), it is then easier to setup teams for 
> access etc. And it makes it much easier in future when there is 
> a need to change the main ownership.

+1

Pm

From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 19 10:38:42 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:38:42 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
In-Reply-To: <2670F209-FF13-4F50-8AD1-C17F6017AFDA@pobox.com>
References: <5123ABDB.2040103@internetalias.net>
	<2670F209-FF13-4F50-8AD1-C17F6017AFDA@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <5123C6B2.9020505@internetalias.net>

Sounds like a good plan.  I'll work on that later on tonight and get
back to the list once that part is handled.  As for the website,
gh-pages /are/ great, but setting up our own website is one of our
planned projects as laid out in the meetings and the meeting power point
presentation I mailed to the group.  We'll be doing it as a learning
experience with Catalyst.  While that might sound like overkill, it
gives us the fun opportunity to expose the group to those technologies.

To clarify for everybody, our development server will be the place where
we run the actual code we collaborate on with github.  Setting up the
github repo as a github organization is a very excellent suggestion.

Thanks Graham!

Remember folks-- If you're missing the meetings, we're missing you, and
you're missing out on lots of fun!  Come on out!

-- 
Tommy Butler

On 02/19/2013 11:35 AM, Graham Barr wrote:
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:44 , Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
>>
>> Remember that our project files are hosted on https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git and you can hack on them at any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on the list.
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 19 11:44:58 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:58 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: DFW.pm.org Official Github Organization
	Created
Message-ID: <5123D63A.8080603@internetalias.net>

Quite simply, from this point forward (with regard to git) we are
officially here: https://github.com/dfwperl

Please send me your github user ID's in this thread (even if you already
did at some point in the past) because I'm having to recreate the group
github membership from scratch again.

Graham, John Fields, Patrick, Nick Perez, and I are already set up.

Files from the previous repository will be migrated over soon.

Thanks.
-- 
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From: dlewis at emortgagelogic.com (David Lewis)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:31:08 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] [SPAM] - Dfw-pm Digest, Vol 25, Issue 9
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My user is lohengrin332.  Thanks.


J. David Lewis
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:35:30 -0600
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:44 , Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
> 
> Remember that our project files are hosted on https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git and you can hack on them at any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on the list.

I would recommend that you move the repository to be a github organization (say dfwpm), it is then easier to setup teams for access etc. And it makes it much easier in future when there is a need to change the main ownership.


Also, you could host the website there. I did this for perl-ldap. You first create a branch called gh-pages then add a file called CNAME with the hostname in it and configure DNS so that the host is a CNAME to dfwpm.github.com

eg

https://github.com/perl-ldap/perl-ldap/tree/gh-pages

Graham.



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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:15:20 -0600
From: "Patrick R. Michaud" <pmichaud at pobox.com>
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
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On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0600, Graham Barr wrote:
> 
> I would recommend that you move the repository to be a github 
> organization (say dfwpm), it is then easier to setup teams for access 
> etc. And it makes it much easier in future when there is a need to 
> change the main ownership.

+1

Pm


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:38:42 -0600
From: Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net>
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Announcement: Our development server is online
Message-ID: <5123C6B2.9020505 at internetalias.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Sounds like a good plan.  I'll work on that later on tonight and get back to the list once that part is handled.  As for the website, gh-pages /are/ great, but setting up our own website is one of our planned projects as laid out in the meetings and the meeting power point presentation I mailed to the group.  We'll be doing it as a learning experience with Catalyst.  While that might sound like overkill, it gives us the fun opportunity to expose the group to those technologies.

To clarify for everybody, our development server will be the place where we run the actual code we collaborate on with github.  Setting up the github repo as a github organization is a very excellent suggestion.

Thanks Graham!

Remember folks-- If you're missing the meetings, we're missing you, and you're missing out on lots of fun!  Come on out!

--
Tommy Butler

On 02/19/2013 11:35 AM, Graham Barr wrote:
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:44 , Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
>>
>> Remember that our project files are hosted on https://github.com/tommybutler/dfwpm.git and you can hack on them at any time.  If you haven't gotten contributor permissions, just ask on the list.
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From: Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Quite simply, from this point forward (with regard to git) we are officially here: https://github.com/dfwperl

Please send me your github user ID's in this thread (even if you already did at some point in the past) because I'm having to recreate the group github membership from scratch again.

Graham, John Fields, Patrick, Nick Perez, and I are already set up.

Files from the previous repository will be migrated over soon.

Thanks.
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Tue Feb 19 13:10:54 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:10:54 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Announcement: DFW.pm.org Official Github Organization
 Created
In-Reply-To: <D6E71BEFAD7BEB4FBCD8AE74FADB1265A44B3A2C1D@win-8-eml-ex1.eml.local>
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Message-ID: <5123EA5E.1000307@internetalias.net>

OK J., you're good to go :-)

I've added everyone who was previously set up as a collaborator on the
old github repo.  So if there's anyone else that wants to be included,
please don't hesitate to reply with your github ID.

Thanks.

--
Tommy Butler

On 02/19/2013 02:31 PM, David Lewis wrote:
> My user is lohengrin332.  Thanks.
>
>
> J. David Lewis
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Thu Feb 21 10:04:01 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:04:01 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
Message-ID: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>

In our last meeting Patrick M mentioned that it was a Perlesque thing to
do to place a *"#XXX"*designator comment wherever there was code that
needed to be revisited.  He went on to say that in the collaborative
development on Perl 5, the maintainers use that "flag" to signal that
something needs to be looked over again.

I thought to myself that I'd adopt the convention and try it out.  Well
for anyone who knows me, I'm a hardcover Vim'mer, and my .vimrc file is
customized for Perl development.  All Perl syntax highlighting and
context-based auto-folding is enabled, plugins installed, ad nauseum.

Today when I typed in the old *"#XXX"* comment into vim, the Perl syntax
highlighting engine lit it up in bright color.  I've attached a
screenshot inline for anyone who might find it even as partially amusing
as myself.  Even with the *:setnohls* flag enabled for vim, the Perl
syntax highlighter *still* highlights the *"#XXX"*so that it is very
easy to see when speedily combing through a file.

AWESOME!  As a demonstration, I typed it in several times for maximum
shock value---



What can I say?  These little things amuse me.  Now please try your
hardest to refrain from telling me how lame I am for not knowing this
already.  If you can't resist, it's OK, I guess I can take it.

--Tommy Butler
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From MMusgrove at efji.com  Thu Feb 21 10:37:06 2013
From: MMusgrove at efji.com (Matt Musgrove)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:37:06 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>

I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate sections:
syn match perlBug                       "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
  HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg

[cid:image001.png at 01CE102E.C244EC80]

Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.

From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+mmusgrove=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Butler
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:04 PM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...

In our last meeting Patrick M mentioned that it was a Perlesque thing to do to place a "#XXX" designator comment wherever there was code that needed to be revisited.  He went on to say that in the collaborative development on Perl 5, the maintainers use that "flag" to signal that something needs to be looked over again.

I thought to myself that I'd adopt the convention and try it out.  Well for anyone who knows me, I'm a hardcover Vim'mer, and my .vimrc file is customized for Perl development.  All Perl syntax highlighting and context-based auto-folding is enabled, plugins installed, ad nauseum.

Today when I typed in the old "#XXX" comment into vim, the Perl syntax highlighting engine lit it up in bright color.  I've attached a screenshot inline for anyone who might find it even as partially amusing as myself.  Even with the :setnohls flag enabled for vim, the Perl syntax highlighter *still* highlights the "#XXX" so that it is very easy to see when speedily combing through a file.

AWESOME!  As a demonstration, I typed it in several times for maximum shock value---

[cid:image002.png at 01CE102E.C244EC80]

What can I say?  These little things amuse me.  Now please try your hardest to refrain from telling me how lame I am for not knowing this already.  If you can't resist, it's OK, I guess I can take it.

--Tommy Butler
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Thu Feb 21 15:30:43 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:30:43 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
Message-ID: <5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>

That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!

What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D

Mine looks like this:

    :set nocompatible
    :syntax enable
    :set bg=dark
    :set ts=3
    :set sw=3
    :set ic
    :set ai
    :set si
    :set expandtab
    :set modeline
    :set ruler
    :set showmatch
    :set number
    :set nohlsearch
    :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
    :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
    :set pastetoggle=<F5>
    :filetype plugin indent on
    :set foldmethod=syntax
    :let perl_fold = 1
    ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
    ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
    " vim: set ft=vim :

--Tommy Butler

On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>
> I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
> installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
> ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate
> sections:
>
> syn match perlBug                       "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>
> syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>
>   HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
>
>

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From MMusgrove at efji.com  Thu Feb 21 15:47:18 2013
From: MMusgrove at efji.com (Matt Musgrove)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:47:18 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF20B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>

I messed up  my vim config today after I upgraded from 7.0 to 7.3. :(
I'll let you know what I use after I've fixed it. :)

From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+mmusgrove=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Butler
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:31 PM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...

That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!

What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D

Mine looks like this:
:set nocompatible
:syntax enable
:set bg=dark
:set ts=3
:set sw=3
:set ic
:set ai
:set si
:set expandtab
:set modeline
:set ruler
:set showmatch
:set number
:set nohlsearch
:autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
:nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
:set pastetoggle=<F5>
:filetype plugin indent on
:set foldmethod=syntax
:let perl_fold = 1
":set cursorline << that can get annoying
":set cursorcolumn << and that too
" vim: set ft=vim :
--Tommy Butler

On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate sections:
syn match perlBug                       "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
  HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg

[cid:image001.png at 01CE105A.DBDA7030]

Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.


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From msouth at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 18:19:18 2013
From: msouth at gmail.com (Mike South)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:19:18 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <CAN483vf6OEK=Chz45HPuO8AnvqNxHfOaZi4UN=gvkxQ3SRPbmQ@mail.gmail.com>

set cursorline is a great thing to know when you're giving a presentation
or screen sharing or whatever when it's less easy for the other viewer to
see where your cursor is.

mike


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net>wrote:

>  That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!
>
> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies there
> are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>
> Mine looks like this:
>
> :set nocompatible
> :syntax enable
> :set bg=dark
> :set ts=3
> :set sw=3
> :set ic
> :set ai
> :set si
> :set expandtab
> :set modeline
> :set ruler
> :set showmatch
> :set number
> :set nohlsearch
> :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
> :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
> :set pastetoggle=<F5>
> :filetype plugin indent on
> :set foldmethod=syntax
> :let perl_fold = 1
> ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
> ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
> " vim: set ft=vim :
>
> --Tommy Butler
>
>
> On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>
>   I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
> installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
> ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate
> sections:
>
> syn match perlBug                       "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>
> syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>
>   HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>
>
>
>
>
> Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
>
>
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From MMusgrove at efji.com  Fri Feb 22 10:48:29 2013
From: MMusgrove at efji.com (Matt Musgrove)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:48:29 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
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Tommy,
Here you go. I'm attaching my .vimrc file because it has control characters in it. I just rebuilt my .vim directory from scratch. I have pathogen and vim-perl installed right now as well as the calmar256-dark color scheme.

Matt

From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+mmusgrove=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Butler
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Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...

That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!

What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D


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From kbrannen at pwhome.com  Fri Feb 22 20:04:18 2013
From: kbrannen at pwhome.com (kevin)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:04:18 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
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On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D

Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:

map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//

Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the 
range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.

Kevin

From masterbucket at internetalias.net  Fri Feb 22 20:29:37 2013
From: masterbucket at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:29:37 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <51283FC2.30208@pwhome.com>
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Yes, that is definitely handy.

But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...

-- 
Tommy Butler

kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:

>On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>
>Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:
>
>map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
>map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//
>
>Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the 
>range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.
>
>Kevin
>_______________________________________________
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From mr.muskrat at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 20:59:25 2013
From: mr.muskrat at gmail.com (Matthew Musgrove)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:59:25 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <d4fff1b3-1b15-4a3c-b97d-4cf47b9572b7@email.android.com>
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Going from memory but sounds right...

Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment
out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on
the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter
insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.

Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <
masterbucket at internetalias.net> wrote:

> Yes, that is definitely handy.
>
> But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume
> two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't
> irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...
>
> --
> Tommy Butler
>
> kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>>
>>
>> Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:
>>
>> map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
>> map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//
>>
>> Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
>> range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.
>>
>> Kevin
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Dfw-pm mailing list
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>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
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>>
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From masterbucket at internetalias.net  Fri Feb 22 21:18:41 2013
From: masterbucket at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:18:41 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <CAJaTdr3EUBbmkShyYvLYzXMdc9Bh9mt5mCF2G+4YrPUER2Y=Sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
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*facepalm* oh the obviousness of it!

-- 
Tommy Butler

Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com> wrote:

>Going from memory but sounds right...
>
>Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to
>comment
>out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor
>on
>the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter
>insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.
>
>Matt
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <
>masterbucket at internetalias.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is definitely handy.
>>
>> But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't
>consume
>> two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it
>hasn't
>> irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...
>>
>> --
>> Tommy Butler
>>
>> kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>>>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers
>:-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:
>>>
>>> map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
>>> map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//
>>>
>>> Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
>>> range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From mr.muskrat at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 21:27:57 2013
From: mr.muskrat at gmail.com (Matthew Musgrove)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:27:57 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
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My mistake. Ctrl-v.

Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>wrote:

> Going from memory but sounds right...
>
> Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment
> out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on
> the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter
> insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <
> masterbucket at internetalias.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is definitely handy.
>>
>> But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume
>> two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't
>> irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...
>>
>> --
>> Tommy Butler
>>
>> kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>>>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>>>
>>>
>>> Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:
>>>
>>>
>>> map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
>>> map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//
>>>
>>> Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
>>> range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>>
>>>
>> --
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>>
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From robert.eaglestone at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 05:24:57 2013
From: robert.eaglestone at gmail.com (Rob Eaglestone)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:24:57 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
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Or, for less proficient vimmers like me:

=pod
...
=cut

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>wrote:

> My mistake. Ctrl-v.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Going from memory but sounds right...
>>
>> Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment
>> out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on
>> the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter
>> insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <
>> masterbucket at internetalias.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, that is definitely handy.
>>>
>>> But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume
>>> two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't
>>> irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tommy Butler
>>>
>>> kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>>>>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
>>>> map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//
>>>>
>>>> Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
>>>> range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Dfw-pm mailing list
>>>> Dfw-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>>
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From critter_75075 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 23 07:41:32 2013
From: critter_75075 at yahoo.com (Andy Robertson)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:41:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <CAJaTdr1kSw7LO+0tPO1BDYHrN3MKy4pJ8skq7BCoBVvP2CS5mA@mail.gmail.com>
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I think the user is looking for shift-v.? In UNIX vim, ctrl-v is literally block mode where a rectangular select area can be selected and worked upon.? shift-v selects entire lines.? In Windows vim I type ctrl-q for block selection, instead of ctrl-v, but I think this is an optional mapping I had to add to the config.? I believe the user is referring to the shift-v mode to select lines.? Also, just v works as well for selecting from a point in a line to another point, regardless of square blocking or line blocking.

During a selection, just enter : to start editing a command.? Any operations can then be performed on the selected area using replace, but the markers for the start and end of the selected area are '< and '> ,? So, search and replace like the following works to put a comment at the start of the line:

:'<,'>s/^/# /

More advance things work like '<,'>s/foo/bar/g and multiple changes can be stitched with pipes like:

:'<,'>s/^/# / | '<,'>s/foo/bar/g 

However, if a piped regex fails to match anything, the regexes in the list after the non-matching select are not executed.

Also, as far as 'two book marks', that works too, just like line numbers:

:'a,'bs/^/# /

Where, a user wants all lines from mark a to mark b prepended with an octothorpe and a lacuna.

All these work in normal Vim.? Vim also supports variables in regexes, like perl.? But, instead of parens in order to block a save for reuse, backslashes are necessary before the open parens and the close parens.? Regular VI also normally supports the mark changes, eg 'a,'b, but not visual selections.

Or, did I lose track, and this is a syntax discussion for Perl-vim which I've never used?

????? Andy

--- On Fri, 2/22/13, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 11:27 PM

My mistake. Ctrl-v.

Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com> wrote:


Going from memory but sounds right...

Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.




Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <masterbucket at internetalias.net> wrote:



Yes, that is definitely handy.



But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...



-- 

Tommy Butler

kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com> wrote:



On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:



What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:




map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//

Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the 
range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.




Kevin

Dfw-pm mailing list
Dfw-pm at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm





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From wesdmalone at gmail.com  Sat Feb 23 09:32:35 2013
From: wesdmalone at gmail.com (Wes Malone)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:32:35 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
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If you haven't already, try out a commenting plugin like nerdcommenter or
tcomment. They both install with pathogen/vundle and work on lots of
different file types, not just Perl.

https://github.com/scrooloose/nerdcommenter
https://github.com/tomtom/tcomment_vim
I think the user is looking for shift-v.  In UNIX vim, ctrl-v is literally
block mode where a rectangular select area can be selected and worked
upon.  shift-v selects entire lines.  In Windows vim I type ctrl-q for
block selection, instead of ctrl-v, but I think this is an optional mapping
I had to add to the config.  I believe the user is referring to the shift-v
mode to select lines.  Also, just v works as well for selecting from a
point in a line to another point, regardless of square blocking or line
blocking.

During a selection, just enter : to start editing a command.  Any
operations can then be performed on the selected area using replace, but
the markers for the start and end of the selected area are '< and '> ,  So,
search and replace like the following works to put a comment at the start
of the line:

:'<,'>s/^/# /

More advance things work like '<,'>s/foo/bar/g and multiple changes can be
stitched with pipes like:

:'<,'>s/^/# / | '<,'>s/foo/bar/g

However, if a piped regex fails to match anything, the regexes in the list
after the non-matching select are not executed.

Also, as far as 'two book marks', that works too, just like line numbers:

:'a,'bs/^/# /

Where, a user wants all lines from mark a to mark b prepended with an
octothorpe and a lacuna.

All these work in normal Vim.  Vim also supports variables in regexes, like
perl.  But, instead of parens in order to block a save for reuse,
backslashes are necessary before the open parens and the close parens.
Regular VI also normally supports the mark changes, eg 'a,'b, but not
visual selections.

Or, did I lose track, and this is a syntax discussion for Perl-vim which
I've never used?

      Andy

--- On *Fri, 2/22/13, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>* wrote:


From: Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 11:27 PM

My mistake. Ctrl-v.

Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Matthew Musgrove
<mr.muskrat at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=mr.muskrat at gmail.com>
> wrote:

Going from memory but sounds right...

Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment
out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on
the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter
insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.

Matt


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <
masterbucket at internetalias.net<http://mc/compose?to=masterbucket at internetalias.net>
> wrote:

Yes, that is definitely handy.

But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume
two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't
irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...

-- 
Tommy Butler

kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com <http://mc/compose?to=kbrannen at pwhome.com>>
wrote:

On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:




What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D


Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:



map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//

Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.



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From saj at thecommune.net  Sat Feb 23 19:33:37 2013
From: saj at thecommune.net (Stuart Johnston)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:33:37 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <51298A11.1020200@thecommune.net>

Damian Conway's Vim config is detailed and well documented:

https://github.com/thoughtstream/Damian-Conway-s-Vim-Setup


2/21/2013 5:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!
>
> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>
> Mine looks like this:
>
>     :set nocompatible
>     :syntax enable
>     :set bg=dark
>     :set ts=3
>     :set sw=3
>     :set ic
>     :set ai
>     :set si
>     :set expandtab
>     :set modeline
>     :set ruler
>     :set showmatch
>     :set number
>     :set nohlsearch
>     :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
>     :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
>     :set pastetoggle=<F5>
>     :filetype plugin indent on
>     :set foldmethod=syntax
>     :let perl_fold = 1
>     ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
>     ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
>     " vim: set ft=vim :
>
> --Tommy Butler
>
> On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>>
>> I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
>> installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
>> ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate
>> sections:
>>
>> syn match perlBug "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>>
>> syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>>
>>   HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>>
>> Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Sun Feb 24 11:21:18 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:21:18 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <51298A11.1020200@thecommune.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
	<51298A11.1020200@thecommune.net>
Message-ID: <512A682E.4030707@internetalias.net>

Excellent!  There's yet another gem.  Thanks for sharing that, Stuart. 
This has turned out to be a very nice thread indeed with lots of great
material.  Anybody else what to share there vim or (*gasp*) emacs configs?

-- 
Tommy Butler

On 02/23/2013 09:33 PM, Stuart Johnston wrote:
> Damian Conway's Vim config is detailed and well documented:
>
> https://github.com/thoughtstream/Damian-Conway-s-Vim-Setup
>
>
> 2/21/2013 5:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>> That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!
>>
>> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>>
>> Mine looks like this:
>>
>>     :set nocompatible
>>     :syntax enable
>>     :set bg=dark
>>     :set ts=3
>>     :set sw=3
>>     :set ic
>>     :set ai
>>     :set si
>>     :set expandtab
>>     :set modeline
>>     :set ruler
>>     :set showmatch
>>     :set number
>>     :set nohlsearch
>>     :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
>>     :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
>>     :set pastetoggle=<F5>
>>     :filetype plugin indent on
>>     :set foldmethod=syntax
>>     :let perl_fold = 1
>>     ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
>>     ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
>>     " vim: set ft=vim :
>>
>> --Tommy Butler
>>
>> On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>>>
>>> I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
>>> installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
>>> ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate
>>> sections:
>>>
>>> syn match perlBug "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>>>
>>> syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>>>
>>>   HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>>>
>>> Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
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From frioux at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 07:44:15 2013
From: frioux at gmail.com (fREW Schmidt)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:44:15 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <512A682E.4030707@internetalias.net>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net> <51298A11.1020200@thecommune.net>
	<512A682E.4030707@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <CADVrmKSYh_JxUsr2X_0++ukgM7_yZ2MzOJWHvUmae9pxxd+W8A@mail.gmail.com>

My vimrc: https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/blob/master/vimrc (comments
for everything I think) and my plugins:
https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/tree/master/vim/bundle

A cool thing I found last night was https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible,
which is meant to be a nice common ground of features that nearly everyone
expects.  Also, the new Practical Vim book from PragProg is surprisingly
good.  I highly recommend it (nearly done with it and I never finish
non-fiction)


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net>wrote:

>  Excellent!  There's yet another gem.  Thanks for sharing that, Stuart.
> This has turned out to be a very nice thread indeed with lots of great
> material.  Anybody else what to share there vim or (*gasp*) emacs configs?
>
> --
> Tommy Butler
>
>
> On 02/23/2013 09:33 PM, Stuart Johnston wrote:
>
> Damian Conway's Vim config is detailed and well documented:
>
> https://github.com/thoughtstream/Damian-Conway-s-Vim-Setup
>
>
> 2/21/2013 5:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>
> That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!
>
> What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
> there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>
> Mine looks like this:
>
>      :set nocompatible
>     :syntax enable
>     :set bg=dark
>     :set ts=3
>     :set sw=3
>     :set ic
>     :set ai
>     :set si
>     :set expandtab
>     :set modeline
>     :set ruler
>     :set showmatch
>     :set number
>     :set nohlsearch
>     :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
>     :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
>     :set pastetoggle=<F5>
>     :filetype plugin indent on
>     :set foldmethod=syntax
>     :let perl_fold = 1
>     ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
>     ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
>     " vim: set ft=vim :
>
> --Tommy Butler
>
> On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>
>
> I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
> installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
> ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the appropriate
> sections:
>
> syn match perlBug "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>
> syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>
>    HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>
> Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
>
>
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From saj at thecommune.net  Mon Feb 25 11:18:40 2013
From: saj at thecommune.net (Stuart Johnston)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:18:40 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <CADVrmKSYh_JxUsr2X_0++ukgM7_yZ2MzOJWHvUmae9pxxd+W8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51266191.2070609@internetalias.net>
	<C0FE28B9352B6F4F8CE371643EC3B2515CAAF03B@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>
	<5126AE23.7010000@internetalias.net>
	<51298A11.1020200@thecommune.net>
	<512A682E.4030707@internetalias.net>
	<CADVrmKSYh_JxUsr2X_0++ukgM7_yZ2MzOJWHvUmae9pxxd+W8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512BB910.5080706@thecommune.net>

Two of my favorite plugins I haven't seen mentioned, though not Perl 
specific are vcscommand.vim and ack.vim.

http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=90
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2572


On 02/25/2013 09:44 AM, fREW Schmidt wrote:
> My vimrc: https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/blob/master/vimrc (comments
> for everything I think) and my plugins:
> https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/tree/master/vim/bundle
>
> A cool thing I found last night was
> https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible, which is meant to be a nice
> common ground of features that nearly everyone expects.  Also, the new
> Practical Vim book from PragProg is surprisingly good.  I highly
> recommend it (nearly done with it and I never finish non-fiction)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net
> <mailto:dfwpm at internetalias.net>> wrote:
>
>     Excellent!  There's yet another gem.  Thanks for sharing that,
>     Stuart.  This has turned out to be a very nice thread indeed with
>     lots of great material. Anybody else what to share there vim or
>     (*gasp*) emacs configs?
>
>     --
>     Tommy Butler
>
>
>     On 02/23/2013 09:33 PM, Stuart Johnston wrote:
>>     Damian Conway's Vim config is detailed and well documented:
>>
>>     https://github.com/thoughtstream/Damian-Conway-s-Vim-Setup
>>
>>
>>     2/21/2013 5:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>>>     That's great, thanks for the tip Matt!
>>>
>>>     What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
>>>     there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D
>>>
>>>     Mine looks like this:
>>>
>>>         :set nocompatible
>>>         :syntax enable
>>>         :set bg=dark
>>>         :set ts=3
>>>         :set sw=3
>>>         :set ic
>>>         :set ai
>>>         :set si
>>>         :set expandtab
>>>         :set modeline
>>>         :set ruler
>>>         :set showmatch
>>>         :set number
>>>         :set nohlsearch
>>>         :autocmd BufWritePre * :%s/\s\+$//e
>>>         :nnoremap <F5> :set invpaste paste?<CR>
>>>         :set pastetoggle=<F5>
>>>         :filetype plugin indent on
>>>         :set foldmethod=syntax
>>>         :let perl_fold = 1
>>>         ":set cursorline << that can get annoying
>>>         ":set cursorcolumn << and that too
>>>         " vim: set ft=vim :
>>>
>>>     --Tommy Butler
>>>
>>>     On 02/21/2013 12:37 PM, Matt Musgrove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I typically use TODO and BUG (something I added to my vim
>>>>     installation). You can add it to yours easily enough. Edit
>>>>     ~/.vim/syntax/perl.vim and add the following lines in the
>>>>     appropriate
>>>>     sections:
>>>>
>>>>     syn match perlBug "\<\(BUG\)\:\?\>" contained
>>>>
>>>>     syn match  perlComment              "#.*" contains=perlTodo,perlBug
>>>>
>>>>       HiLink perlBug            ErrorMsg
>>>>
>>>>     Newer versions of vim-perl also support NOTE.
>
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From MMusgrove at efji.com  Tue Feb 26 15:11:08 2013
From: MMusgrove at efji.com (Matt Musgrove)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:11:08 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
In-Reply-To: <1361634092.792.YahooMailClassic@web164601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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For how I was using it, ctrl-v was the appropriate means of selecting the first character of each line so that typing I#ESC (shift-i shift-3 ESC) would comment out each line. It only comments out the first line if you select all of the lines with v or shift-v.

Matt

From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+mmusgrove=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robertson
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:42 AM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...

I think the user is looking for shift-v.  In UNIX vim, ctrl-v is literally block mode where a rectangular select area can be selected and worked upon.  shift-v selects entire lines.  In Windows vim I type ctrl-q for block selection, instead of ctrl-v, but I think this is an optional mapping I had to add to the config.  I believe the user is referring to the shift-v mode to select lines.  Also, just v works as well for selecting from a point in a line to another point, regardless of square blocking or line blocking.

During a selection, just enter : to start editing a command.  Any operations can then be performed on the selected area using replace, but the markers for the start and end of the selected area are '< and '> ,  So, search and replace like the following works to put a comment at the start of the line:

:'<,'>s/^/# /

More advance things work like '<,'>s/foo/bar/g and multiple changes can be stitched with pipes like:

:'<,'>s/^/# / | '<,'>s/foo/bar/g

However, if a piped regex fails to match anything, the regexes in the list after the non-matching select are not executed.

Also, as far as 'two book marks', that works too, just like line numbers:

:'a,'bs/^/# /

Where, a user wants all lines from mark a to mark b prepended with an octothorpe and a lacuna.

All these work in normal Vim.  Vim also supports variables in regexes, like perl.  But, instead of parens in order to block a save for reuse, backslashes are necessary before the open parens and the close parens.  Regular VI also normally supports the mark changes, eg 'a,'b, but not visual selections.

Or, did I lose track, and this is a syntax discussion for Perl-vim which I've never used?

      Andy

--- On Fri, 2/22/13, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com<mailto:mr.muskrat at gmail.com>> wrote:

From: Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com<mailto:mr.muskrat at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] Not only was Patrick right, but Vim backs him up...
To: dfw-pm at pm.org<mailto:dfw-pm at pm.org>
Date: Friday, February 22, 2013, 11:27 PM
My mistake. Ctrl-v.

Matt

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Matthew Musgrove <mr.muskrat at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=mr.muskrat at gmail.com>> wrote:
Going from memory but sounds right...

Position your cursor on the first character of the first line to comment out. Press 'v' to go into visual character mode. Position your cursor on the first character of the last line to comment out. Press 'I' to enter insert mode. Press '#' followed by 'ESC'. Done.

Matt

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Tommy Butler <masterbucket at internetalias.net</mc/compose?to=masterbucket at internetalias.net>> wrote:
Yes, that is definitely handy.

But is there some easier way to do block commenting that doesn't consume two bookmarks? I find myself doing it based on line numbers, but it hasn't irritated me enough to look up a better way yet...

--
Tommy Butler
kevin <kbrannen at pwhome.com</mc/compose?to=kbrannen at pwhome.com>> wrote:

On 02/21/2013 05:30 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:







What does your .vimrc look like?  I always like to see what goodies
there are to be found in the .vimrc files of fellow Perl hackers :-D

Something I've done for a long time in my .vimrc and find useful is:






map ,c :'a,'bs/^/#/
map ,u :'a,'bs/^#//

Then I can mark a range of lines with 'a and 'b, then hit ,c and the
range is commented out. Similarly, ,u uncomments a range of lines.






Kevin

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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 11:35:36 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:35:36 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
Message-ID: <512E6008.40106@internetalias.net>

We get recruiter "spam" from time to time on this mailing list.  For
some, it's appreciated.  For most, it's annoying because it's a
technical mailing list were we discuss technical things and not other
matters.

Today I beg your indulgence for a slightly off-topic post, non-technical
in nature, but Perl-related and for the potential benefit of our
membership.  In our first meeting since the "reboot" of DFW.pm, I
explained that our projects together were to accomplish at least these
two things -- to have fun and to learn skills that were valuable in
today's workplace.  Two big wins, to exercise and enjoy however you want.

So having said that, I wanted to disclose that I know about some open
jobs in the DFW area.  I will probably seldom if ever mention this again
out of respect to the charter of our group and the mailing list in
general.  But for the benefit of those who are seeking work in today's
difficult times I wanted to let you know that the things you are
learning in our meetings are skills that are in high demand in today's
business world.  Right here in DFW I am aware of jobs that require
people with our Perl skill set.  They are local, legit, and pay nicely.

If you or a friend is looking for employment, that can be a tough place
to be.  I know; I've been there.  If you are looking for employment,
please ping me off-list at <dfwpm at internetalias dot net> and I can
give you specific details.

Thanks for the great discussions we've had recently on the list.  I'm
really looking forward to our next meeting.

Until then, /keep improving./

--Tommy Butler
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From: steve.d.smith at lmco.com (Smith, Steve D)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:13:11 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] Code signing in WIN32
Message-ID: <FDA1BC4ACB4241458F2FCB656AB3890102774F8B@HDXDSP31.us.lmco.com>

I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I write a lot of PERL in WIN32 for administrator tasks requiring elevated privileges.  I often compile it with the PERLAPP compiler included with the Activestate PDK in order to distribute the program to servers without PERL installed. Because of UAC, I need to sign the application. I have the cert and use it for other languages.

Does anyone know how to digitally sign the executable, or even the PERL scripts in Windows?

Steve D. Smith
Systems Integration Analyst Sr. Staff
(972)603-0450
Lockheed Martin - Missiles and Fire Control
1701 W. Marshall Dr.
Grand Prairie, Tx. 75051

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From kirk.nicholson at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 14:49:32 2013
From: kirk.nicholson at gmail.com (Kirk Nicholson)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:49:32 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <512E6008.40106@internetalias.net>
References: <512E6008.40106@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <CAPMgQOrw044okz8VWw_U+hoyqGOfK89EkDCV_eW8kJMdw1vR7w@mail.gmail.com>

IMHO Perl related job postings are NOT spam. If this forum can narrow an
otherwise difficult job search for those best qualified to do the job, so
be it.
On Feb 27, 2013 1:35 PM, "Tommy Butler" <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:

>  We get recruiter "spam" from time to time on this mailing list.  For
> some, it's appreciated.  For most, it's annoying because it's a technical
> mailing list were we discuss technical things and not other matters.
>
> Today I beg your indulgence for a slightly off-topic post, non-technical
> in nature, but Perl-related and for the potential benefit of our
> membership.  In our first meeting since the "reboot" of DFW.pm, I explained
> that our projects together were to accomplish at least these two things --
> to have fun and to learn skills that were valuable in today's workplace.
> Two big wins, to exercise and enjoy however you want.
>
> So having said that, I wanted to disclose that I know about some open jobs
> in the DFW area.  I will probably seldom if ever mention this again out of
> respect to the charter of our group and the mailing list in general.  But
> for the benefit of those who are seeking work in today's difficult times I
> wanted to let you know that the things you are learning in our meetings are
> skills that are in high demand in today's business world.  Right here in
> DFW I am aware of jobs that require people with our Perl skill set.  They
> are local, legit, and pay nicely.
>
> If you or a friend is looking for employment, that can be a tough place to
> be.  I know; I've been there.  If you are looking for employment, please
> ping me off-list at <dfwpm at internetalias dot net> and I can give you
> specific details.
>
> Thanks for the great discussions we've had recently on the list.  I'm
> really looking forward to our next meeting.
>
> Until then, *keep improving.*
>
> --Tommy Butler
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 15:02:28 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:02:28 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] Code signing in WIN32
In-Reply-To: <FDA1BC4ACB4241458F2FCB656AB3890102774F8B@HDXDSP31.us.lmco.com>
References: <FDA1BC4ACB4241458F2FCB656AB3890102774F8B@HDXDSP31.us.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <512E9084.4040009@internetalias.net>

If you don't find an answer here, I happen to know someone who knows a
helluvalottastuff about Perl on Win32, and that person lives here
<http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=171588>.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 04:13 PM, Smith, Steve D wrote:
>
> I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I write a lot of
> PERL in WIN32 for administrator tasks requiring elevated privileges.
>  I often compile it with the PERLAPP compiler included with the
> Activestate PDK in order to distribute the program to servers without
> PERL installed. Because of UAC, I need to sign the application. I have
> the cert and use it for other languages.
>
>  
>
> Does anyone know how to digitally sign the executable, or even the
> PERL scripts in Windows?
>
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From saj at thecommune.net  Wed Feb 27 15:07:04 2013
From: saj at thecommune.net (Stuart Johnston)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:07:04 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <CAPMgQOrw044okz8VWw_U+hoyqGOfK89EkDCV_eW8kJMdw1vR7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <512E6008.40106@internetalias.net>
	<CAPMgQOrw044okz8VWw_U+hoyqGOfK89EkDCV_eW8kJMdw1vR7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512E9198.1050600@thecommune.net>

The policy in the past has been that recruiters are not allowed but 
active groups members are allowed to post opportunities they are 
personally connected to.  I think that is a pretty good compromise.


On 02/27/2013 04:49 PM, Kirk Nicholson wrote:
> IMHO Perl related job postings are NOT spam. If this forum can narrow an
> otherwise difficult job search for those best qualified to do the job,
> so be it.
>
> On Feb 27, 2013 1:35 PM, "Tommy Butler" <dfwpm at internetalias.net
> <mailto:dfwpm at internetalias.net>> wrote:
>
>     We get recruiter "spam" from time to time on this mailing list.  For
>     some, it's appreciated.  For most, it's annoying because it's a
>     technical mailing list were we discuss technical things and not
>     other matters.
>
>     Today I beg your indulgence for a slightly off-topic post,
>     non-technical in nature, but Perl-related and for the potential
>     benefit of our membership.  In our first meeting since the "reboot"
>     of DFW.pm, I explained that our projects together were to accomplish
>     at least these two things -- to have fun and to learn skills that
>     were valuable in today's workplace.  Two big wins, to exercise and
>     enjoy however you want.
>
>     So having said that, I wanted to disclose that I know about some
>     open jobs in the DFW area.  I will probably seldom if ever mention
>     this again out of respect to the charter of our group and the
>     mailing list in general.  But for the benefit of those who are
>     seeking work in today's difficult times I wanted to let you know
>     that the things you are learning in our meetings are skills that are
>     in high demand in today's business world.  Right here in DFW I am
>     aware of jobs that require people with our Perl skill set. They are
>     local, legit, and pay nicely.
>
>     If you or a friend is looking for employment, that can be a tough
>     place to be.  I know; I've been there.  If you are looking for
>     employment, please ping me off-list at <dfwpm at internetalias dot
>     net> and I can give you specific details.
>
>     Thanks for the great discussions we've had recently on the list. I'm
>     really looking forward to our next meeting.
>
>     Until then, /keep improving./
>
>     --Tommy Butler
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Dfw-pm mailing list
>     Dfw-pm at pm.org <mailto:Dfw-pm at pm.org>
>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dfw-pm mailing list
> Dfw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dfw-pm
>


From critter_75075 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 27 15:07:16 2013
From: critter_75075 at yahoo.com (Andrew Robertson)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:07:16 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
Message-ID: <dsts74vjs1629llt5akfkgbe.1362006221814@email.android.com>

I agree, Perl related jobs are relevant to this discussion group. ?Although, I think there was a request at one point to make sure job postings are clearly marked in the subject so they can be ignored if appropriate.

Even if I am not looking, I do enjoy reading relevant job postings, if only to know what I should be studying.

What charter?

? ?Andy




Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G TouchKirk Nicholson <kirk.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:IMHO Perl related job postings are NOT spam. If this forum can narrow an otherwise difficult job search for those best qualified to do the job, so be it.

On Feb 27, 2013 1:35 PM, "Tommy Butler" <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
We get recruiter "spam" from time to time on this mailing list.? For some, it's appreciated.? For most, it's annoying because it's a technical mailing list were we discuss technical things and not other matters.

Today I beg your indulgence for a slightly off-topic post, non-technical in nature, but Perl-related and for the potential benefit of our membership.? In our first meeting since the "reboot" of DFW.pm, I explained that our projects together were to accomplish at least these two things -- to have fun and to learn skills that were valuable in today's workplace.? Two big wins, to exercise and enjoy however you want.

So having said that, I wanted to disclose that I know about some open jobs in the DFW area.? I will probably seldom if ever mention this again out of respect to the charter of our group and the mailing list in general.? But for the benefit of those who are seeking work in today's difficult times I wanted to let you know that the things you are learning in our meetings are skills that are in high demand in today's business world.? Right here in DFW I am aware of jobs that require people with our Perl skill set.? They are local, legit, and pay nicely.

If you or a friend is looking for employment, that can be a tough place to be.? I know; I've been there.? If you are looking for employment, please ping me off-list at <dfwpm at internetalias dot net> and I can give you specific details.

Thanks for the great discussions we've had recently on the list.? I'm really looking forward to our next meeting.

Until then, keep improving.

--Tommy Butler

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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 15:14:24 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:14:24 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <dsts74vjs1629llt5akfkgbe.1362006221814@email.android.com>
References: <dsts74vjs1629llt5akfkgbe.1362006221814@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <512E9350.6050504@internetalias.net>

HA!  We have a winner!  You see, we still need one :-D and It was very
nice/generous of you to volunteer to draft it for us.

Just kidding of course.

I think somebody already told me once that our charter was: "We Are
Awesome", or something along those lines.

That is all.

-- 
Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:07 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
> What charter?
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From LEmmett at efji.com  Wed Feb 27 15:17:05 2013
From: LEmmett at efji.com (Larry Emmett)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:17:05 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <512E9350.6050504@internetalias.net>
References: <dsts74vjs1629llt5akfkgbe.1362006221814@email.android.com>
	<512E9350.6050504@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <D09509F577E2464496793D036CE052D8566502AD@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>

I thought our charter was anything that didn't enrage Nick with its stupidity to the point that he called for banning the user responsible. :)


From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+lemmett=efjohnson.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Tommy Butler
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:14 PM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs

HA!  We have a winner!  You see, we still need one  :-D and It was very nice/generous of you to volunteer to draft it for us.

Just kidding of course.

I think somebody already told me once that our charter was: "We Are Awesome", or something along those lines.

That is all.

--
Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:07 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
What charter?
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From critter_75075 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 27 15:31:49 2013
From: critter_75075 at yahoo.com (Andrew Robertson)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:31:49 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
Message-ID: <jfhuufxg4poqoxvb4vqjvsul.1362007324403@email.android.com>

Assumed it was a joke, but still... ?I?still remember my first discussion with Brand. ?Something to the effect of:

The mailing list is only to decide when we go out for beer. ?The list is pretty quiet, until someone notices we havn't been out in a while. ?Then they write and suggest we have a beer. ?That's pretty much how the group works. ?But, some of us substitute Dr. Pepper for beer.

That was in 98 I believe. ?If I had to suggest a charter it would be something to the effect of Beer Parsers.

Cheers.

? ? ?Andy



Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G TouchTommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:HA!? We have a winner!? You see, we still need one? :-D and It was very nice/generous of you to volunteer to draft it for us.

Just kidding of course.

I think somebody already told me once that our charter was: "We Are Awesome", or something along those lines.

That is all.

-- 
Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:07 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 15:34:36 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:34:36 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <jfhuufxg4poqoxvb4vqjvsul.1362007324403@email.android.com>
References: <jfhuufxg4poqoxvb4vqjvsul.1362007324403@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <512E980C.4000403@internetalias.net>

Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our
meetings.  To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!  Chug one
down!  Be awesome!

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:31 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
> Assumed it was a joke, but still...  I still remember my first
> discussion with Brand.  Something to the effect of:
>
> The mailing list is only to decide when we go out for beer.  The list
> is pretty quiet, until someone notices we havn't been out in a while.
>  Then they write and suggest we have a beer.  That's pretty much how
> the group works.  But, some of us substitute Dr. Pepper for beer.
>
> That was in 98 I believe.  If I had to suggest a charter it would be
> something to the effect of Beer Parsers.
>
> Cheers.
>
>      Andy

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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 15:37:11 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:37:11 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <512E980C.4000403@internetalias.net>
References: <jfhuufxg4poqoxvb4vqjvsul.1362007324403@email.android.com>
	<512E980C.4000403@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <512E98A7.7060601@internetalias.net>

To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer
isn't your thing.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our
> meetings.  To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!  Chug
> one down!  Be awesome!
>
> --Tommy Butler

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From critter_75075 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 27 15:45:27 2013
From: critter_75075 at yahoo.com (Andrew Robertson)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:45:27 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
Message-ID: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>

Anybody remember the date the group was started? ?I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated. ?Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....

? ? Andy




Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G TouchTommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer isn't your thing.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our meetings.? To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!? Chug one down!? Be awesome!

--Tommy Butler

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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 15:57:57 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:57:57 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
References: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <512E9D85.7060702@internetalias.net>

I'll accept anything as an excuse to celebrate with Dr. Pepper!

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:45 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
> Anybody remember the date the group was started?  I think 15 years of
> parsing should be celebrated.  Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....
>
>     Andy

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From brentlavelle at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 27 16:15:46 2013
From: brentlavelle at yahoo.com (Brent LaVelle)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:15:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
References: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1362010546.5684.YahooMailNeo@web142402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I feel like it was longer than 15 years ago but all the e-mail accounts I was using prior to 15 years ago are long gone.


________________________________
 From: Andrew Robertson <critter_75075 at yahoo.com>
To: dfw-pm at pm.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
 

Anybody remember the date the group was started? ?I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated. ?Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....

? ? Andy




Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G Touch
Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer isn't your thing.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote: 
Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our meetings.? To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!? Chug one down!? Be awesome!
>
>--Tommy Butler
>
 
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From wigthft at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 16:18:22 2013
From: wigthft at gmail.com (John Fields)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:18:22 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <512E9D85.7060702@internetalias.net>
References: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
	<512E9D85.7060702@internetalias.net>
Message-ID: <512EA24E.3040803@gmail.com>

Hey Andy!

How about a Flaming Dr. B?
Cane sugar clone of DP circa 1905, from Central Market.
(A) Still in production
(B) no money goes to the near-evil Dr. Pepper/Snapple Group, Inc.

Remember Dublin! :)
John "just a little bitter" Fields


On 02/27/2013 05:57 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
> I'll accept anything as an excuse to celebrate with Dr. Pepper!
>
> --Tommy Butler
>
> On 02/27/2013 05:45 PM, Andrew Robertson wrote:
>> Anybody remember the date the group was started?  I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated.  Perhaps with flaming Dr. 
>> Peppers....
>>
>>     Andy

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From LEmmett at efji.com  Wed Feb 27 16:19:37 2013
From: LEmmett at efji.com (Larry Emmett)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:19:37 +0000
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
References: <s4ynkci802dqyw0gubgs7suj.1362008727662@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <D09509F577E2464496793D036CE052D8566504F9@EFJDFWMB01.EFJDFW.local>

I suddenly feel much older than I did a bit ago.

The year showing here is 2000 (http://computer-programming-forum.com/53-perl/b74b1a646f64f07e.htm) which is wrong, it was before that.  The text of the original announcement read as follows:

The first meeting of the Dallas Perl Mongers is on:

  Date:  Wednesday, July 15
  Time:  7:00pm
  Place: Juan's Cantina, southwest corner of Central
         Espressway and Belt Line Rd, Richardson.
When you get there, tell 'em you're with "The Perl Group".
(I really don't want to try to explain to the management
what a "Perl Monger" is.)
Agenda:    7:00  Get there.
           7:10  Order refreshments.
           7:30  Throw security badges into the basket
                 for the drawing.  Whose ever badge you
                 draw, you have to pretend to be that person
                 for the rest of the year.  First one to get
                 promoted wins a free subscription to TPJ.
See ya there.
        Brand



From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+lemmett=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:45 PM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs

Anybody remember the date the group was started?  I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated.  Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....

    Andy




Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G Touch

Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net<mailto:dfwpm at internetalias.net>> wrote:
To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer isn't your thing.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our meetings.  To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!  Chug one down!  Be awesome!

--Tommy Butler

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From critter_75075 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 27 16:28:38 2013
From: critter_75075 at yahoo.com (Andrew Robertson)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:28:38 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
Message-ID: <4793nrt4mxbaidfskkf58ogw.1362011215536@email.android.com>

http://lwn.net/1998/0716/ Lists 1998. ?

? ? Andy




Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G TouchLarry Emmett <LEmmett at efji.com> wrote:I suddenly feel much older than I did a bit ago.
?
The year showing here is 2000 (http://computer-programming-forum.com/53-perl/b74b1a646f64f07e.htm) which is wrong, it was before that.? The text of the original announcement read as follows:
?
The first meeting of the Dallas Perl Mongers is on:?

? Date: ?Wednesday, July 15?
? Time: ?7:00pm?
? Place: Juan's Cantina, southwest corner of Central?
? ? ? ? ?Espressway and Belt Line Rd, Richardson.?
When you get there, tell 'em you're with "The Perl Group".?
(I really don't want to try to explain to the management?
what a "Perl Monger" is.)?
Agenda: ? ?7:00 ?Get there.?
? ? ? ? ? ?7:10 ?Order refreshments.?
? ? ? ? ? ?7:30 ?Throw security badges into the basket?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?for the drawing. ?Whose ever badge you?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?draw, you have to pretend to be that person?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?for the rest of the year. ?First one to get?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?promoted wins a free subscription to TPJ.?
See ya there.?
? ? ? ? Brand?
?
?
?
From: Dfw-pm [mailto:dfw-pm-bounces+lemmett=efji.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:45 PM
To: dfw-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
?
Anybody remember the date the group was started? ?I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated. ?Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....
?
? ? Andy
?
?
?
?
Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G Touch

Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer isn't your thing.

--Tommy Butler

On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our meetings.? To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!? Chug one down!? Be awesome!

--Tommy Butler
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From perl at cjmweb.net  Wed Feb 27 16:29:37 2013
From: perl at cjmweb.net (Christopher J. Madsen)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:29:37 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
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On 2/27/2013 6:19 PM, Larry Emmett wrote:
> The year showing here is 2000 which is wrong, it was before that.

Assuming that "Wednesday, July 15" is correct, it would have to be 1998.
 The previous year with that date would be 1992, which seems too early
(Perl 4.036 hadn't even been released yet).

That'd put our 15th anniversary this July.

-- 
Chris Madsen                                          perl at cjmweb.net
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From jswitzer at gmail.com  Wed Feb 27 17:13:27 2013
From: jswitzer at gmail.com (Jason Switzer)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:13:27 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Robertson
<critter_75075 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree, Perl related jobs are relevant to this discussion group.  Although,
> I think there was a request at one point to make sure job postings are
> clearly marked in the subject so they can be ignored if appropriate.
>
> Even if I am not looking, I do enjoy reading relevant job postings, if only
> to know what I should be studying.
>
> What charter?
>
>    Andy
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G Touch
>
> Kirk Nicholson <kirk.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> IMHO Perl related job postings are NOT spam. If this forum can narrow an
> otherwise difficult job search for those best qualified to do the job, so be
> it.
>
> On Feb 27, 2013 1:35 PM, "Tommy Butler" <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
>>
>> We get recruiter "spam" from time to time on this mailing list.  For some,
>> it's appreciated.  For most, it's annoying because it's a technical mailing
>> list were we discuss technical things and not other matters.
>>
>> Today I beg your indulgence for a slightly off-topic post, non-technical
>> in nature, but Perl-related and for the potential benefit of our membership.
>> In our first meeting since the "reboot" of DFW.pm, I explained that our
>> projects together were to accomplish at least these two things -- to have
>> fun and to learn skills that were valuable in today's workplace.  Two big
>> wins, to exercise and enjoy however you want.
>>
>> So having said that, I wanted to disclose that I know about some open jobs
>> in the DFW area.  I will probably seldom if ever mention this again out of
>> respect to the charter of our group and the mailing list in general.  But
>> for the benefit of those who are seeking work in today's difficult times I
>> wanted to let you know that the things you are learning in our meetings are
>> skills that are in high demand in today's business world.  Right here in DFW
>> I am aware of jobs that require people with our Perl skill set.  They are
>> local, legit, and pay nicely.
>>
>> If you or a friend is looking for employment, that can be a tough place to
>> be.  I know; I've been there.  If you are looking for employment, please
>> ping me off-list at <dfwpm at internetalias dot net> and I can give you
>> specific details.
>>
>> Thanks for the great discussions we've had recently on the list.  I'm
>> really looking forward to our next meeting.
>>
>> Until then, keep improving.
>>
>> --Tommy Butler
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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Meh, as long as they are advertised as job postings for perl (no
sneaky subjects that mislead me into spam), I don't have a problem
with it.

-Jason Switzer

From gbarr at pobox.com  Wed Feb 27 19:30:58 2013
From: gbarr at pobox.com (Graham Barr)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:30:58 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
In-Reply-To: <1362010546.5684.YahooMailNeo@web142402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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This group was started shortly after the 2nd perl conference in 1998, by Brand Hilton

On Feb 27, 2013, at 18:15 , Brent LaVelle <brentlavelle at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I feel like it was longer than 15 years ago but all the e-mail accounts I was using prior to 15 years ago are long gone.
> 
> From: Andrew Robertson <critter_75075 at yahoo.com>
> To: dfw-pm at pm.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [DFW.pm] DFW.pm mailing list and jobs
> 
> Anybody remember the date the group was started?  I think 15 years of parsing should be celebrated.  Perhaps with flaming Dr. Peppers....
> 
>     Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Epic? 4G Touch
> 
> Tommy Butler <dfwpm at internetalias.net> wrote:
> To be more specific-- you can have a Dr. Pepper with me too, if beer isn't your thing.
> 
> --Tommy Butler
> 
> On 02/27/2013 05:34 PM, Tommy Butler wrote:
>> 
>> Well, quite a few mongers kick back with a beer by their laptop at our meetings.  To anyone who hasn't already done so-- come on out!  Chug one down!  Be awesome!
>> 
>> --Tommy Butler
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Dfw-pm at pm.org
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From dfwpm at internetalias.net  Wed Feb 27 21:48:20 2013
From: dfwpm at internetalias.net (Tommy Butler)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:48:20 -0600
Subject: [DFW.pm] check out this awesome git tutorial
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Perl Mongers!

If you've got a few minutes, check out this */awesome/* git tutorial
?http://pcottle.github.com/learnGitBranching/

--Tommy Butler
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