From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Thu Mar 11 01:57:42 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] We interrupt this program... Message-ID: <40501BF6.6040305@modperlcookbook.org> DAAAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT! From robin.berjon at expway.fr Thu Mar 11 05:07:00 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] We interrupt this program... In-Reply-To: <40501BF6.6040305@modperlcookbook.org> References: <40501BF6.6040305@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <40504854.9060701@expway.fr> Geoffrey Young wrote: > DAAAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Robin Berjon From michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at Thu Mar 11 05:37:55 2004 From: michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Kr=F6ll?=) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] We interrupt this program... In-Reply-To: <40504854.9060701@expway.fr> References: <40501BF6.6040305@modperlcookbook.org> <40504854.9060701@expway.fr> Message-ID: <40504F93.9050106@uibk.ac.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robin Berjon wrote: | Geoffrey Young wrote: |> DAAAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT! | DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! (dahut) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQFAUE+TeM3QI14qZogRAox3AJ9xAgs6ObmGxwFOfDSBUQnWbenUdwCgyCzZ /djkqJw2PM/XXCDnuUsOh4U= =r+kh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From JGSmith at TAMU.Edu Tue Mar 23 03:05:59 2004 From: JGSmith at TAMU.Edu (James G Smith) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 Message-ID: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> I am proud to announce a new version of Acme::Tao. While on a walk between shrines in Nikko, Japan, I had an epiphany: if the Tao is not constant, then neither should Acme::Tao be constant. Therefore, if Acme::Tao is trying to detect the use of a constant Tao, it will sometimes fail and will sometimes remain silent (50% chance of each). This version should be making its way to a CPAN mirror near you. -- James Smith , 979-862-3725 Senior Software Applications Developer, Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix From khampton at totalcinema.com Tue Mar 23 11:34:04 2004 From: khampton at totalcinema.com (Kip Hampton) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 In-Reply-To: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> References: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> James G Smith wrote: > I am proud to announce a new version of Acme::Tao. > > While on a walk between shrines in Nikko, Japan, I had an epiphany: > if the Tao is not constant, then neither should Acme::Tao be Mmmm, except, what Uncle Lao said was, "The Tao that can be named is not the constant Tao." IOW, the Tao *is* constant, but the instant you start talking about the Tao, you cease to talk about it and begin to talk about your abstract conceptualization of it (which is not the real, constant Tao). Its an admonition against clinging to mental models of the Tao that can only ultimately distract us from living each moment with the childlike openness and curiousity that allows us to float downstream on the Tao's true nature (which is the only way to "know" the Tao to any real degree). ubu-tse From chris at prather.org Tue Mar 23 11:38:53 2004 From: chris at prather.org (Chris Prather) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 In-Reply-To: <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> References: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> Message-ID: <200403231238.53941.chris@prather.org> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 12:34, Kip Hampton wrote: > James G Smith wrote: > > I am proud to announce a new version of Acme::Tao. > > > > While on a walk between shrines in Nikko, Japan, I had an epiphany: > > if the Tao is not constant, then neither should Acme::Tao be > > Mmmm, except, what Uncle Lao said was, "The Tao that can be named is not > the constant Tao." IOW, the Tao *is* constant, but the instant you start > talking about the Tao, you cease to talk about it and begin to talk > about your abstract conceptualization of it (which is not the real, > constant Tao). Its an admonition against clinging to mental models of > the Tao that can only ultimately distract us from living each moment > with the childlike openness and curiousity that allows us to float > downstream on the Tao's true nature (which is the only way to "know" the > Tao to any real degree). > > ubu-tse ::approaches the humble master ubu-tse:: Master is not then Acme::Tao be not the Tao, but the Tao that is spoken about? -Chris From khampton at totalcinema.com Tue Mar 23 11:50:00 2004 From: khampton at totalcinema.com (Kip Hampton) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 In-Reply-To: <200403231238.53941.chris@prather.org> References: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> <200403231238.53941.chris@prather.org> Message-ID: <406078C8.3000700@totalcinema.com> Chris Prather wrote: > Master is not then Acme::Tao be not the Tao, but the Tao that is spoken about? Sure, so anyone with the hubris to say "use constant Tao" deserves the unexpected results they will surely get, but that's not the same as the Tao not being constant :-) -ubu From robin.berjon at expway.fr Tue Mar 23 12:32:22 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 In-Reply-To: <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> References: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> Message-ID: <406082B6.2000004@expway.fr> Kip Hampton wrote: > Mmmm, except, what Uncle Lao said was, "The Tao that can be named is not > the constant Tao." IOW, the Tao *is* constant, but the instant you start > talking about the Tao, you cease to talk about it and begin to talk > about your abstract conceptualization of it (which is not the real, > constant Tao). Its an admonition against clinging to mental models of > the Tao that can only ultimately distract us from living each moment > with the childlike openness and curiousity that allows us to float > downstream on the Tao's true nature (which is the only way to "know" the > Tao to any real degree). Funny how this is thoroughly reminiscent of Wittgenstein :) Maybe Geoff would like to chime in and we can finally know how many dahuts can dance on a ladder? ;) What Old Unc' Lao points out above there is precisely what I dislike most about the Book religions (not sure that's how they're called in English, but you know the ones): clinging on to (mental models of) distraction when in such spheres what ought to count is what Uncle Ludwig referred to as "what can only be pointed at". -- Robin Berjon From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Tue Mar 23 12:40:45 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] [ANNOUNCE] Acme::Tao 0.03 In-Reply-To: <406082B6.2000004@expway.fr> References: <200403230905.i2N95xV4003704@moya.tamu.edu> <4060750C.5080706@totalcinema.com> <406082B6.2000004@expway.fr> Message-ID: <406084AD.3030502@modperlcookbook.org> > Funny how this is thoroughly reminiscent of Wittgenstein :) Maybe Geoff > would like to chime in and we can finally know how many dahuts can dance > on a ladder? ;) heh :) > > What Old Unc' Lao points out above there is precisely what I dislike > most about the Book religions (not sure that's how they're called in > English, but you know the ones): clinging on to (mental models of) > distraction when in such spheres what ought to count is what Uncle > Ludwig referred to as "what can only be pointed at". > of course, Uncle Ludwig took it all back after a stint as a kindergarten teacher, perhaps lending a certain air of truth to the biblical notion that "whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it." ;) --Geoff From chris at maclux-rz.uibk.ac.at Fri Mar 26 15:37:23 2004 From: chris at maclux-rz.uibk.ac.at (chris wild) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Schema Repository Message-ID: Dahuuuuuuuut :) Perigrin and myself were having a little conversation today about whether it would be an good idea to start some kind of schema directory/repository. As far as we both know there is no web site available to which people can turn if they are looking for a XML Schema someone else might already have created. Perigrin suggested to start with a Wiki which would be very ok for me - although later on some combination of cvs and OpenSource licensing might be more appropriate. What are your opinions/views on this? Would this be something useful? Is there already something like what we have in mind? regards, Chris From michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at Sat Mar 27 04:50:14 2004 From: michael.kroell at uibk.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Kr=F6ll?=) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Schema Repository In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40655C66.90009@uibk.ac.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 chris wild wrote: | Is | there already something like what we have in mind? Relax NG dont do it When you want to go to it -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFAZVxmeM3QI14qZogRAi14AKD4V6ZyBUXsgpcPnhkv5kpgYwGUYQCePodC 1ezVOgI7WPXb+UaXIg9bQO8= =/Lpb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robin.berjon at expway.fr Sun Mar 28 08:49:06 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Schema Repository In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4066E5E2.9090707@expway.fr> chris wild wrote: > As far as we both know there is no web site available to which people can > turn if they are looking for a XML Schema someone else might already have > created. Perigrin suggested to start with a Wiki which would be very ok for > me - although later on some combination of cvs and OpenSource licensing > might be more appropriate. I think it's a cool idea. I also think it would be cool to succeed in doing with a Wiki what others have failed to provide with Microsoft, SOAP, UDDI, etc... ;) If it goes up I'll give you what schemata I have. -- Robin Berjon From christian.glahn at uibk.ac.at Sat Mar 27 13:22:11 2004 From: christian.glahn at uibk.ac.at (Christian Glahn) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Schema Repository In-Reply-To: <40655C66.90009@uibk.ac.at> References: <40655C66.90009@uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: <1080415330.13151.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Although the xml cover pages are not an open repository by the meaning of the word, but it bundles many initiatives, that already have created schemas (in relaxng, xmlschema or dtd) for a broad range of problems (document formats, process description, semantic web etc.). Christian On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 11:50, Michael Kr?ll wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > chris wild wrote: > | Is > | there already something like what we have in mind? > > Relax NG dont do it > When you want to go to it > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) > > iD8DBQFAZVxmeM3QI14qZogRAi14AKD4V6ZyBUXsgpcPnhkv5kpgYwGUYQCePodC > 1ezVOgI7WPXb+UaXIg9bQO8= > =/Lpb > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Dahut-pm mailing list > Dahut-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/dahut-pm > From chris at prather.org Tue Mar 30 15:34:29 2004 From: chris at prather.org (Chris Prather) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:29:26 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Sorry about the delay (was: Schema Repository) In-Reply-To: <1080415330.13151.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <40655C66.90009@uibk.ac.at> <1080415330.13151.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200403301634.30057.chris@prather.org> On Saturday 27 March 2004 14:22, Christian Glahn wrote: > Although the xml cover pages are not an open repository by the meaning > of the word, but it bundles many initiatives, that already have created > schemas (in relaxng, xmlschema or dtd) for a broad range of problems > (document formats, process description, semantic web etc.). > > Christian > Sorry about the delay in getting this through to the list. There was some issues regarding Bender not caring about the admin password for moderation and neither Robin nor I being able to remember it. -Chris