From mikefrag at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 22:39:04 2016 From: mikefrag at gmail.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 00:39:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC 2017, and suboptimal Perl SEO Message-ID: YAPC/TPC 2017 was recently announced as being in Washington DC, but I couldn't remember the dates. It took me a good ten minutes of googling to locate the details, because it just does not show up on Google, at all, at least for me. Nor is the information visible on http://www.perlfoundation.org/, or http://yapc.org, or http://www.yapcna.org/ (which errors out) or http://perl.org, or even the DC Perl Mongers page, http://dc.pm.org/ (which has Cialis spam at the moment). Of course, it pops up right away when I tried https://duckduckgo.com, but still. In case anyone else is looking for this information: http://news.perlfoundation.org/2016/11/the-perl-conference-save-date-2017.html Apparently the news.perlfoundation.org posts since September are not being promoted to the www.perlfoundation.org page. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madcityzen at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 11:37:04 2016 From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:37:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC 2017, and suboptimal Perl SEO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:39 AM, Mike Fragassi wrote: > > YAPC/TPC 2017 was recently announced as being in Washington DC, but I couldn't remember the dates. It took me a good ten minutes of googling to locate the details, because it just does not show up on Google, at all, at least for me. Nor is the information visible on http://www.perlfoundation.org/ , or http://yapc.org , or http://www.yapcna.org/ (which errors out) or http://perl.org , or even the DC Perl Mongers page, http://dc.pm.org/ (which has Cialis spam at the moment). > > Of course, it pops up right away when I tried https://duckduckgo.com , but still. > > In case anyone else is looking for this information: > > http://news.perlfoundation.org/2016/11/the-perl-conference-save-date-2017.html > I've been wanting to use chicago.pm.org for more than just announcing meetings when I remember, so if it's SEO you want to improve, adding posts to various blogs linking to the announcement with good keyword coverage and such is a good way to go about it. I can give out commit bits and help with how to use Statocles for anyone who wants to post to chicago.pm.org . I've been trying to post links to blog posts and other such that the Chicago Perl Mongers are involved in, but I've been pretty terrible about it. > Apparently the news.perlfoundation.org posts since September are not being promoted to the www.perlfoundation.org page. Does anyone know who to talk to about that? I know a couple people who have expressed frustration about both this problem, and at the general lack of opportunities to address the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeen at verizon.net Tue Dec 6 12:37:08 2016 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:37:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC 2017, and suboptimal Perl SEO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12/06/2016 02:37 PM, Doug Bell wrote: > >> On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:39 AM, Mike Fragassi > > wrote: >> >> YAPC/TPC 2017 was recently announced as being in Washington DC, but I >> couldn't remember the dates. It took me a good ten minutes of >> googling to locate the details, because it just does not show up on >> Google, at all, at least for me. Nor is the information visible on >> http://www.perlfoundation.org/, or http://yapc.org , >> or http://www.yapcna.org/ (which errors out) or http://perl.org >> , or even the DC Perl Mongers page, >> http://dc.pm.org/ (which has Cialis spam at the moment). >> >> Of course, it pops up right away when I tried https://duckduckgo.com >> , but still. >> >> In case anyone else is looking for this information: >> >> >> http://news.perlfoundation.org/2016/11/the-perl-conference-save-date-2017.html >> > > I've been wanting to use chicago.pm.org for more > than just announcing meetings when I remember, so if it's SEO you want > to improve, adding posts to various blogs linking to the announcement > with good keyword coverage and such is a good way to go about it. I can > give out commit bits and help with how to use Statocles for anyone who > wants to post to chicago.pm.org . > > I've been trying to post links to blog posts and other such that the > Chicago Perl Mongers are involved in, but I've been pretty terrible > about it. > >> Apparently the news.perlfoundation.org >> posts since September are not being >> promoted to the www.perlfoundation.org >> page. > > Does anyone know who to talk to about that? I know a couple people who > have expressed frustration about both this problem, and at the general > lack of opportunities to address the problem. > > These pages are also out-of-date. They don't even reflect the change in the President of TPF. http://www.perlfoundation.org/who_s_who http://www.perlfoundation.org/contact_us I'll BCC some likely suspects. Jim Keenan From gatorreina at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 10:40:53 2016 From: gatorreina at gmail.com (Richard Reina) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:40:53 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Preserving whitespace in an email message Message-ID: I have a perl script that reads a flat file and sends it's contents in a text email via Mime::Lite. It works great except when there are whitespaces that need to be preserved for alignment. For example, If I have the following lines in the flat file James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY In the received email the look like this. James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY I have also tried converting the email to HTML which does not help. Any ideas what approach I should take into order to get these messages to format correctly? Thanks. Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amead2 at alanmead.org Mon Dec 26 11:15:49 2016 From: amead2 at alanmead.org (Alan Mead) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:15:49 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Preserving whitespace in an email message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You haven't given us enough information to know where the WS is going, so any answer is speculative. But if the WS is being removed and you fix that bug, then if you send the email as HTML with the text wrapped in PRE tags ("
YOUR-TEXT-GOES-HERE
") it should solve this problem. You could also use HTML tables (this is actually what they're for) but in order to do so, you would need to parse the information into cells. These solutions may create new problems, like the text may wrap funny for the recipient. Also, most clients use an ugly serif font to display text in PRE tags. It's extremely hard to know what an email is going to look like for the recipient unless you know what software the recipient uses to read email. Most of us use multiple devices to read email these days... Using MIME::Lite makes it easy to attach files. You could also attach these details in a format that will render correctly, like CSV (or lots of other choices, like as an image, PDF, etc.). -Alan On 12/26/2016 12:40 PM, Richard Reina wrote: > I have a perl script that reads a flat file and sends it's contents in > a text email via Mime::Lite. It works great except when there are > whitespaces that need to be preserved for alignment. For example, If I > have the following lines in the flat file > > James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA > Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY > > In the received email the look like this. > > James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA > Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY > > I have also tried converting the email to HTML which does not help. > Any ideas what approach I should take into order to get these messages > to format correctly? > > Thanks. > > Richard > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk -- Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. President, Talent Algorithms Inc. science + technology = better workers +815.588.3846 (Office) +267.334.4143 (Mobile) http://www.alanmead.org I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... functions on fire in a copy of Orion. I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for Pi. --"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous "Blade Runner" speech to software development -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gatorreina at gmail.com Wed Dec 28 05:17:16 2016 From: gatorreina at gmail.com (Richard Reina) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:17:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Preserving whitespace in an email message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alan, Thanks for your reply. I will probably opt for attaching the reports as pdfs. Thanks 2016-12-26 13:15 GMT-06:00 Alan Mead : > You haven't given us enough information to know where the WS is going, so > any answer is speculative. But if the WS is being removed and you fix that > bug, then if you send the email as HTML with the text wrapped in PRE tags > ("
YOUR-TEXT-GOES-HERE
") it should solve this problem. You > could also use HTML tables (this is actually what they're for) but in order > to do so, you would need to parse the information into cells. > > These solutions may create new problems, like the text may wrap funny for > the recipient. Also, most clients use an ugly serif font to display text in > PRE tags. It's extremely hard to know what an email is going to look like > for the recipient unless you know what software the recipient uses to read > email. Most of us use multiple devices to read email these days... > > Using MIME::Lite makes it easy to attach files. You could also attach > these details in a format that will render correctly, like CSV (or lots of > other choices, like as an image, PDF, etc.). > > -Alan > > > > On 12/26/2016 12:40 PM, Richard Reina wrote: > > I have a perl script that reads a flat file and sends it's contents in a > text email via Mime::Lite. It works great except when there are whitespaces > that need to be preserved for alignment. For example, If I have the > following lines in the flat file > > James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA > Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY > > In the received email the look like this. > > James Brown 123 Washington Ave Philadephia PA > Kim Smith 12 5th Ave New York NY > > I have also tried converting the email to HTML which does not help. Any > ideas what approach I should take into order to get these messages to > format correctly? > > Thanks. > > Richard > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing listChicago-talk at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > -- > > Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. > President, Talent Algorithms Inc. > > science + technology = better workers > > +815.588.3846 (Office) > +267.334.4143 (Mobile) > http://www.alanmead.org > > I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... > functions on fire in a copy of Orion. > I watched C-Sharp glitter in the dark near a programmable gate. > All those moments will be lost in time, like Ruby... on... Rails... Time for Pi. > > --"The Register" user Alister, applying the famous > "Blade Runner" speech to software development > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: