From madcityzen at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 11:50:58 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:50:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Meetings This Month - Speaker Needed!
Message-ID: <463DFF52-0100-4F3C-887F-6C0ACA01611C@gmail.com>

Happy 4th of July! Hope everyone's barbecue came out both barb and cue.

We've got a Project Night / Office Hours coming up next week, Thursday, July 11 from 6:30 - 9:30 at our usual 9th Floor of 540 W Madison location. Bring your laptops, bring your code, bring your questions!

We've got a presentation coming up on Thursday, July 25th. We need a presenter, so if anyone has anything they'd like to say, let me know and we'll get you a forum.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com




From madcityzen at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 11:53:21 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:53:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Poll: Move Project Nights to Another Day
Message-ID: <E2D91E9E-005E-41E5-B316-9E37C2F8D9F7@gmail.com>

One last thing on the agenda: The Chicago Python Users Group has their meeting on the second thursday of the month, so, if possible, I'd like to move our Project Night to the second Wednesday. Alternatively, we could move to the 1st or 3rd Thursday. Thoughts?

In my ideal world, I'd be able to go to the Python meetup and the JavaScript meetup, as well as the Perl meetup. Moving our project nights should make that feasible. 

I need to start recruiting Python and JavaScript programmers, so I need to start ingratiating myself with them. Infiltrating their culture. Studying their habits. That they may, in time, come to accept me as one of their own.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com



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From mikefrag at gmail.com  Fri Jul  5 12:02:00 2013
From: mikefrag at gmail.com (Mike Fragassi)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 14:02:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Poll: Move Project Nights to Another Day
In-Reply-To: <E2D91E9E-005E-41E5-B316-9E37C2F8D9F7@gmail.com>
References: <E2D91E9E-005E-41E5-B316-9E37C2F8D9F7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAKpS=59XuLcjnYf9Hvu2aN7Xbg9JvSDn5FSGdGyig1T7Q27Gw@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with the principle of moving the day we hold project night.

As for which specific day it should be held, I do like Wednesdays; with my
current schedule, they're the easiest days for me to attend.


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> One last thing on the agenda: The Chicago Python Users Group has their
> meeting on the second thursday of the month, so, if possible, I'd like to
> move our Project Night to the second Wednesday. Alternatively, we could
> move to the 1st or 3rd Thursday. Thoughts?
>
> In my ideal world, I'd be able to go to the Python meetup and the
> JavaScript meetup, as well as the Perl meetup. Moving our project nights
> should make that feasible.
>
> I need to start recruiting Python and JavaScript programmers, so I need to
> start ingratiating myself with them. Infiltrating their culture. Studying
> their habits. That they may, in time, come to accept me as one of their own.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Tue Jul  9 10:44:52 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 12:44:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Project Night - Thursday July 11, 6:30pm
Message-ID: <-5300486755198138885@unknownmsgid>

Just a friendly reminder that our Project Night this week is still on
Thursday at our 540 W Madison st. location. Please RSVP on the Meetup if
you intend to go. http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/128157912/

Project Night is a time for us to get together and work on code, ask
questions about code, and help each other out with Perl and other
development-related issues.

Project Night is BYO Beverage and Food.

At this meeting, we're going to discuss moving our Project Night meeting
away from the Chicago Python Users Group meetup date, so if Wednesday is a
better night for you to come, let me know!

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Fri Jul 12 08:05:31 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:05:31 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Speakers needed for Lightning Talks
Message-ID: <-6983950208192341780@unknownmsgid>

Our next meeting will be Lightning Talks, 10-minute mini-presentations. We
can support 10-13 talks, and feel free to give more than one.

To help think of ideas, here's some that I've thought of:

* Git::ReleaseRepo
* Updating our website
* Subscribing to Perl News
* Changes in Beam::Wire
* Solarized
* Vim plugins
* Oh-My-Zsh

The idea is take one simple thing and introduce it. No need to get in too
much depth, unless it's a small enough topic to fit into 10 minutes.

Let me know what you want to speak about, and I'll put together a schedule.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Mon Jul 15 09:05:03 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:05:03 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
Message-ID: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>

Chicago.PM is planning a small, one-day Perl workshop. Depending on
interest, it will either be an "Intermediate Workshop", for people
who've gotten started with Perl and want to learn the skills to turn
them into a Perl Programmer, or it will have two tracks: Beginner and
Intermediate.

The cost is undetermined, but right now we are shooting for "Free". If
there ends up being a cost to Chicago.PM, I am hoping that some
generous Chicago.PM members will be willing to help defray the cost to
the end-user (and I will be one of them), or some generous corporate
benefactor might be interested in funding a little in return for some
recognition and thanks.

Due to the one-day nature of the event, I am shooting for
October/November (Autumn, but not too cold to be able to walk around).
This gives us enough time to plan and advertise (maybe), but the
timetable is skewed because our team is leaving this building next
year (and I do not want to hold the event over the winter, let Frozen
Perl handle that ;). If that is not feasible, we can do early Spring
(Late March / Early April) as I think we'll still be in this building
then.

Most likely the event will be all-day on a Friday. Our building will
have plenty of telecommutes on Friday (we are a bank, after all), and
it won't be a weekend.

The event will probably be held in the same building we hold our
regular meetings, 540 W Madison. The main reason to choose this
building is cost, but since it is right downtown (just West of the
Loop), it is convenient for Amtrak, Metra, and CTA riders. The CTA
makes both O'Hare and Midway convenient as well. There is parking, but
it is probably better to Park-and-Ride the CTA. There are hostels and
hotels in the area we can help people to find.

So, ask around! See if anyone is interested in attending a
free-or-low-cost one-day Perl conference. I'll be posting a
blogs.perl.org post with this information to also gauge interest.

If just a half-dozen people are interested, we'll do it, I'm more
worried that hundreds of people will be interested and I'll have to
find some better venue.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com

From andrew at cleverdomain.org  Tue Jul 16 15:28:51 2013
From: andrew at cleverdomain.org (Andrew Rodland)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:28:51 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>

I will come if I can arrange it, and I'll also contact people at my old
company and see if they're interested. Having a "job fair" area is usually
a good way to attract some sponsorship.

Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
On Jul 15, 2013 12:06 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chicago.PM is planning a small, one-day Perl workshop. Depending on
> interest, it will either be an "Intermediate Workshop", for people
> who've gotten started with Perl and want to learn the skills to turn
> them into a Perl Programmer, or it will have two tracks: Beginner and
> Intermediate.
>
> The cost is undetermined, but right now we are shooting for "Free". If
> there ends up being a cost to Chicago.PM, I am hoping that some
> generous Chicago.PM members will be willing to help defray the cost to
> the end-user (and I will be one of them), or some generous corporate
> benefactor might be interested in funding a little in return for some
> recognition and thanks.
>
> Due to the one-day nature of the event, I am shooting for
> October/November (Autumn, but not too cold to be able to walk around).
> This gives us enough time to plan and advertise (maybe), but the
> timetable is skewed because our team is leaving this building next
> year (and I do not want to hold the event over the winter, let Frozen
> Perl handle that ;). If that is not feasible, we can do early Spring
> (Late March / Early April) as I think we'll still be in this building
> then.
>
> Most likely the event will be all-day on a Friday. Our building will
> have plenty of telecommutes on Friday (we are a bank, after all), and
> it won't be a weekend.
>
> The event will probably be held in the same building we hold our
> regular meetings, 540 W Madison. The main reason to choose this
> building is cost, but since it is right downtown (just West of the
> Loop), it is convenient for Amtrak, Metra, and CTA riders. The CTA
> makes both O'Hare and Midway convenient as well. There is parking, but
> it is probably better to Park-and-Ride the CTA. There are hostels and
> hotels in the area we can help people to find.
>
> So, ask around! See if anyone is interested in attending a
> free-or-low-cost one-day Perl conference. I'll be posting a
> blogs.perl.org post with this information to also gauge interest.
>
> If just a half-dozen people are interested, we'll do it, I'm more
> worried that hundreds of people will be interested and I'll have to
> find some better venue.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 16:16:45 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:16:45 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
	<CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>

On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org> wrote:

> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.

Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com
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From dcmertens.perl at gmail.com  Tue Jul 16 16:28:39 2013
From: dcmertens.perl at gmail.com (David Mertens)
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:28:39 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
	<CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+4ieYXO5Mj0LTS=o4hPnQRos5doxgOco=z6-EzmcV=eix0oJg@mail.gmail.com>

I would really like to come, but I don't think it'll work with my schedule
to take a Friday off in October.

David


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
> wrote:
>
> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>
>
> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference
> rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should
> check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>



-- 
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From esinclai at pobox.com  Wed Jul 17 07:34:44 2013
From: esinclai at pobox.com (Eric Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:34:44 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
	<CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABV78WEbtpkm5nZdTL_=u25j=J_AfC0ZJQ7v3dtEfnKYDkNg2w@mail.gmail.com>

For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
they are moving facilities soon...

Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
definitely right!

-- 
esinclai at pobox.com (e)
esinclai @ * (im)
On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
> wrote:
>
> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>
>
> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference
> rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should
> check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 07:47:50 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:47:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <CABV78WEbtpkm5nZdTL_=u25j=J_AfC0ZJQ7v3dtEfnKYDkNg2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
	<CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
	<CABV78WEbtpkm5nZdTL_=u25j=J_AfC0ZJQ7v3dtEfnKYDkNg2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-8003524241904127685@unknownmsgid>

That would be great! I've evaluated TechNexus from a regular meeting
standpoint, but the low price they have has always been trumped by "I work
in this building" and "It's free".

But one of the main sticking points for this building and specifically the
floor I can get for free is: No public internet. In fact, now that I think
about it, that may be a deal-breaker.

So yes, please let me know who to talk to (or talk to them yourself) about
this!

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com

On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eric Sinclair <esinclai at pobox.com> wrote:

For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
they are moving facilities soon...

Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
definitely right!

-- 
esinclai at pobox.com (e)
esinclai @ * (im)
On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
> wrote:
>
> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>
>
> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference
> rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should
> check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
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From robert at robertblackwell.com  Wed Jul 17 08:01:11 2013
From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:01:11 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <-8003524241904127685@unknownmsgid>
References: <-1573912107431262010@unknownmsgid>
	<CABFQKmNEu2ZVBDMMARvjshTMONbxMYJP+dCi0wG_J_kVwZ09zA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGrcjSRVL=DkxTWqygUGHnvHNAgDakyyRhSdVB+XcWQd27tSkw@mail.gmail.com>

Woot! I love Chicago I am so excited to see you planning a workshop. I hope
I can make it.

Please note that Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is planned for the weekend of of
Oct 5 2013.

Robert




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> That would be great! I've evaluated TechNexus from a regular meeting
> standpoint, but the low price they have has always been trumped by "I work
> in this building" and "It's free".
>
> But one of the main sticking points for this building and specifically the
> floor I can get for free is: No public internet. In fact, now that I think
> about it, that may be a deal-breaker.
>
> So yes, please let me know who to talk to (or talk to them yourself) about
> this!
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eric Sinclair <esinclai at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
> TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
> they are moving facilities soon...
>
> Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
> facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
> definitely right!
>
> --
> esinclai at pobox.com (e)
> esinclai @ * (im)
> On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>>
>>
>> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference
>> rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should
>> check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.
>>
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 08:50:08 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:50:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
In-Reply-To: <CAGrcjSRVL=DkxTWqygUGHnvHNAgDakyyRhSdVB+XcWQd27tSkw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<B7D990EE-361A-4E8B-8038-1FD010C55E89@gmail.com>
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That's what I was afraid of!

The NA Perl Workshops/Conferences I can find are:

Pittsburg: Early October
DC/Baltimore: Mid-April
YAPC: June/July
Orlando: Mid-January
Frozen Perl: ?? February?

Are there any I'm missing?

There seems to be a big gap in August/September. Early Sept may be enough
time to plan the thing, but is it enough time to get the word out? There's
also a gap in March, and Frozen Perl may not be happening anymore, so we
could take Feb/Mar (even with the snow, we could call it Chicahguh Weather
Appreciation Day).

There's also Early November, except YAPC::Brazil is the 15/16th November,
so it'd have to be the 1st/2nd of November. After YAPC::Brazil, it's hard
to do anything in NA due to the holidays.

We're going to have a planning meeting the second week of August (which
probably puts September out of the running). If early next year it must be,
that's when we'll do it.

Something to note: It's hard to find a completely unreserved time period
for a brand-new workshop. This is a Good Problem To Have for Perl!

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com

On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Robert Blackwell <robert at robertblackwell.com>
wrote:

Woot! I love Chicago I am so excited to see you planning a workshop. I hope
I can make it.

Please note that Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is planned for the weekend of of
Oct 5 2013.

Robert




On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> That would be great! I've evaluated TechNexus from a regular meeting
> standpoint, but the low price they have has always been trumped by "I work
> in this building" and "It's free".
>
> But one of the main sticking points for this building and specifically the
> floor I can get for free is: No public internet. In fact, now that I think
> about it, that may be a deal-breaker.
>
> So yes, please let me know who to talk to (or talk to them yourself) about
> this!
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eric Sinclair <esinclai at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
> TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
> they are moving facilities soon...
>
> Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
> facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
> definitely right!
>
> --
> esinclai at pobox.com (e)
> esinclai @ * (im)
> On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>>
>>
>> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free conference
>> rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention it, I should
>> check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed on Saturday.
>>
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
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From mikefrag at gmail.com  Wed Jul 17 09:04:10 2013
From: mikefrag at gmail.com (Mike Fragassi)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:04:10 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
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Did Frozen Perl even take place last year?  If the ACT page is up-to-date,
there hasn't been one since early 2011.

http://act.mongueurs.net/conferences.html



On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's what I was afraid of!
>
> The NA Perl Workshops/Conferences I can find are:
>
> Pittsburg: Early October
> DC/Baltimore: Mid-April
> YAPC: June/July
> Orlando: Mid-January
> Frozen Perl: ?? February?
>
> Are there any I'm missing?
>
> There seems to be a big gap in August/September. Early Sept may be enough
> time to plan the thing, but is it enough time to get the word out? There's
> also a gap in March, and Frozen Perl may not be happening anymore, so we
> could take Feb/Mar (even with the snow, we could call it Chicahguh Weather
> Appreciation Day).
>
> There's also Early November, except YAPC::Brazil is the 15/16th November,
> so it'd have to be the 1st/2nd of November. After YAPC::Brazil, it's hard
> to do anything in NA due to the holidays.
>
> We're going to have a planning meeting the second week of August (which
> probably puts September out of the running). If early next year it must be,
> that's when we'll do it.
>
> Something to note: It's hard to find a completely unreserved time period
> for a brand-new workshop. This is a Good Problem To Have for Perl!
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Robert Blackwell <robert at robertblackwell.com>
> wrote:
>
> Woot! I love Chicago I am so excited to see you planning a workshop. I
> hope I can make it.
>
> Please note that Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is planned for the weekend of of
> Oct 5 2013.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That would be great! I've evaluated TechNexus from a regular meeting
>> standpoint, but the low price they have has always been trumped by "I work
>> in this building" and "It's free".
>>
>> But one of the main sticking points for this building and specifically
>> the floor I can get for free is: No public internet. In fact, now that I
>> think about it, that may be a deal-breaker.
>>
>> So yes, please let me know who to talk to (or talk to them yourself)
>> about this!
>>
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eric Sinclair <esinclai at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
>> TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
>> they are moving facilities soon...
>>
>> Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
>> facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
>> definitely right!
>>
>> --
>> esinclai at pobox.com (e)
>> esinclai @ * (im)
>> On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free
>>> conference rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention
>>> it, I should check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed
>>> on Saturday.
>>>
>>> Doug Bell
>>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
>>
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>
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From jschueler at eloquency.com  Thu Jul 18 06:45:58 2013
From: jschueler at eloquency.com (Jim Schueler)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:45:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] new arrival
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1307180927480.10670@server.tqis.com>

my wife's job recently relocated her to the windy city so here I am 
looking for gainful activity.

contract programming seems like the obvious first choice or if anyone can 
recommend a legit recruiter.  perl is my first choice, web development
(javascript/jquery/DOM) and java.

sorry if the request is out of line... newbie.

  -Jim

From madcityzen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 07:11:50 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] new arrival
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1307180927480.10670@server.tqis.com>
References: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1307180927480.10670@server.tqis.com>
Message-ID: <-8437845265518931482@unknownmsgid>

This request is perfectly on-topic, but unfortunately I don't know of
anything open for Perl. I've got some Python positions open, if you're
interested in that.

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com

On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Jim Schueler <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:

> my wife's job recently relocated her to the windy city so here I am looking for gainful activity.
>
> contract programming seems like the obvious first choice or if anyone can recommend a legit recruiter.  perl is my first choice, web development
> (javascript/jquery/DOM) and java.
>
> sorry if the request is out of line... newbie.
>
> -Jim
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk

From madcityzen at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 07:20:10 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:20:10 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Meeting Next Week - Lightning Talks, Thursday July 25,
	6:30PM
Message-ID: <6254957124013820539@unknownmsgid>

Our regular meeting next week will be lightning talks, short, 10-minute
presentations on whatever you want. I don't have a gong, but I have a phone
that may produce a gong sound.

This means we need presenters! This will be very ad-hoc, but if you want to
ensure a spot on the list, let me know the topic(s) you want to talk about
and I'll put you on the schedule.

The meeting is scheduled to be:

6:30-7:00: Arrival, eating, and socializing
7:00-9:00: Lightning talks!
9:00-9:30: Chicago.PM News and Perl Report

Pizza and drink will be provided (let me know if you have requests for
drink).

The meeting will be held at our usual location, 540 W Madison, 9th floor
conference rooms. RSVP on the meetup by 4:30pm on the meeting day (if you
don't, security has to call me, which is fine, but I may not be at my
phone).

Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/129268492/

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com
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From jschueler at eloquency.com  Thu Jul 18 11:08:24 2013
From: jschueler at eloquency.com (Jim Schueler)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:08:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Chicago-announce] Meeting Next Week - Lightning
 Talks, Thursday July 25, 6:30PM
In-Reply-To: <6254957124013820539@unknownmsgid>
References: <6254957124013820539@unknownmsgid>
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I would like to present a lightening talk on a module I have under 
development, Google::OAuth.

I should probably pick one of two aspects given the 10 min limit.

   1.  The functionality:  I use Google::Apps and Facebook to share
       back-end resources with my customers' websites.

       The typical app is a shared login.  At a recent presentation,
       some thought I was advocating a practice that many perceive as
       invasive.  The take-away is to spend more time discussing
       appropriate use of these web-services and less time demonstrating
       my module.

   2.  Alternatively, I could throw caution to the wind and just demo the
       module.

Thanks!

Jim

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:

> Our regular meeting next week will be lightning talks, short, 10-minute
> presentations on whatever you want. I don't have a gong, but I have a phone
> that may produce a gong sound.
> 
> This means we need presenters! This will be very ad-hoc, but if you want to
> ensure a spot on the list, let me know the topic(s) you want to talk about
> and I'll put you on the schedule.
> 
> The meeting is scheduled to be:
> 
> 6:30-7:00: Arrival, eating, and socializing
> 7:00-9:00: Lightning talks!
> 9:00-9:30: Chicago.PM News and Perl Report
> 
> Pizza and drink will be provided (let me know if you have requests for
> drink).
> 
> The meeting will be held at our usual location, 540 W Madison, 9th floor
> conference rooms. RSVP on the meetup by 4:30pm on the meeting day (if you
> don't, security has to call me, which is fine, but I may not be at my
> phone).
> 
> Meetup:?http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/129268492/
> 
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
> 
>

From joel.a.berger at gmail.com  Thu Jul 18 11:26:04 2013
From: joel.a.berger at gmail.com (Joel Berger)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:26:04 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Chicago-announce] Meeting Next Week - Lightning
 Talks, Thursday July 25, 6:30PM
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1307181115240.733@server.tqis.com>
References: <6254957124013820539@unknownmsgid>
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Oh I will have some questions about oauth. I look forward to it
On Jul 18, 2013 1:08 PM, "Jim Schueler" <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:

> I would like to present a lightening talk on a module I have under
> development, Google::OAuth.
>
> I should probably pick one of two aspects given the 10 min limit.
>
>   1.  The functionality:  I use Google::Apps and Facebook to share
>       back-end resources with my customers' websites.
>
>       The typical app is a shared login.  At a recent presentation,
>       some thought I was advocating a practice that many perceive as
>       invasive.  The take-away is to spend more time discussing
>       appropriate use of these web-services and less time demonstrating
>       my module.
>
>   2.  Alternatively, I could throw caution to the wind and just demo the
>       module.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:
>
>  Our regular meeting next week will be lightning talks, short, 10-minute
>> presentations on whatever you want. I don't have a gong, but I have a
>> phone
>> that may produce a gong sound.
>>
>> This means we need presenters! This will be very ad-hoc, but if you want
>> to
>> ensure a spot on the list, let me know the topic(s) you want to talk about
>> and I'll put you on the schedule.
>>
>> The meeting is scheduled to be:
>>
>> 6:30-7:00: Arrival, eating, and socializing
>> 7:00-9:00: Lightning talks!
>> 9:00-9:30: Chicago.PM News and Perl Report
>>
>> Pizza and drink will be provided (let me know if you have requests for
>> drink).
>>
>> The meeting will be held at our usual location, 540 W Madison, 9th floor
>> conference rooms. RSVP on the meetup by 4:30pm on the meeting day (if you
>> don't, security has to call me, which is fine, but I may not be at my
>> phone).
>>
>> Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/**ChicagoPM/events/129268492/<http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/129268492/>
>>
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
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From dcmertens.perl at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 11:00:14 2013
From: dcmertens.perl at gmail.com (David Mertens)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:00:14 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Chicago-announce] Meeting Next Week - Lightning
 Talks, Thursday July 25, 6:30PM
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Joel -

You should totally give a lightening talk about Alien::Base. I gave an
impromptu one at DC/Baltimore Perl Workshop and got a round of applause. :-)

David


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Joel Berger <joel.a.berger at gmail.com>wrote:

> Oh I will have some questions about oauth. I look forward to it
> On Jul 18, 2013 1:08 PM, "Jim Schueler" <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to present a lightening talk on a module I have under
>> development, Google::OAuth.
>>
>> I should probably pick one of two aspects given the 10 min limit.
>>
>>   1.  The functionality:  I use Google::Apps and Facebook to share
>>       back-end resources with my customers' websites.
>>
>>       The typical app is a shared login.  At a recent presentation,
>>       some thought I was advocating a practice that many perceive as
>>       invasive.  The take-away is to spend more time discussing
>>       appropriate use of these web-services and less time demonstrating
>>       my module.
>>
>>   2.  Alternatively, I could throw caution to the wind and just demo the
>>       module.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:
>>
>>  Our regular meeting next week will be lightning talks, short, 10-minute
>>> presentations on whatever you want. I don't have a gong, but I have a
>>> phone
>>> that may produce a gong sound.
>>>
>>> This means we need presenters! This will be very ad-hoc, but if you want
>>> to
>>> ensure a spot on the list, let me know the topic(s) you want to talk
>>> about
>>> and I'll put you on the schedule.
>>>
>>> The meeting is scheduled to be:
>>>
>>> 6:30-7:00: Arrival, eating, and socializing
>>> 7:00-9:00: Lightning talks!
>>> 9:00-9:30: Chicago.PM News and Perl Report
>>>
>>> Pizza and drink will be provided (let me know if you have requests for
>>> drink).
>>>
>>> The meeting will be held at our usual location, 540 W Madison, 9th floor
>>> conference rooms. RSVP on the meetup by 4:30pm on the meeting day (if you
>>> don't, security has to call me, which is fine, but I may not be at my
>>> phone).
>>>
>>> Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/**ChicagoPM/events/129268492/<http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/129268492/>
>>>
>>> Doug Bell
>>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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  Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
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From joel.a.berger at gmail.com  Fri Jul 19 13:57:49 2013
From: joel.a.berger at gmail.com (Joel Berger)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:57:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Chicago-announce] Meeting Next Week - Lightning
 Talks, Thursday July 25, 6:30PM
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Wow! Maybe I should. I can't let you take all the credit ;-)
On Jul 19, 2013 1:00 PM, "David Mertens" <dcmertens.perl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joel -
>
> You should totally give a lightening talk about Alien::Base. I gave an
> impromptu one at DC/Baltimore Perl Workshop and got a round of applause. :-)
>
> David
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Joel Berger <joel.a.berger at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Oh I will have some questions about oauth. I look forward to it
>> On Jul 18, 2013 1:08 PM, "Jim Schueler" <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to present a lightening talk on a module I have under
>>> development, Google::OAuth.
>>>
>>> I should probably pick one of two aspects given the 10 min limit.
>>>
>>>   1.  The functionality:  I use Google::Apps and Facebook to share
>>>       back-end resources with my customers' websites.
>>>
>>>       The typical app is a shared login.  At a recent presentation,
>>>       some thought I was advocating a practice that many perceive as
>>>       invasive.  The take-away is to spend more time discussing
>>>       appropriate use of these web-services and less time demonstrating
>>>       my module.
>>>
>>>   2.  Alternatively, I could throw caution to the wind and just demo the
>>>       module.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:
>>>
>>>  Our regular meeting next week will be lightning talks, short, 10-minute
>>>> presentations on whatever you want. I don't have a gong, but I have a
>>>> phone
>>>> that may produce a gong sound.
>>>>
>>>> This means we need presenters! This will be very ad-hoc, but if you
>>>> want to
>>>> ensure a spot on the list, let me know the topic(s) you want to talk
>>>> about
>>>> and I'll put you on the schedule.
>>>>
>>>> The meeting is scheduled to be:
>>>>
>>>> 6:30-7:00: Arrival, eating, and socializing
>>>> 7:00-9:00: Lightning talks!
>>>> 9:00-9:30: Chicago.PM News and Perl Report
>>>>
>>>> Pizza and drink will be provided (let me know if you have requests for
>>>> drink).
>>>>
>>>> The meeting will be held at our usual location, 540 W Madison, 9th floor
>>>> conference rooms. RSVP on the meetup by 4:30pm on the meeting day (if
>>>> you
>>>> don't, security has to call me, which is fine, but I may not be at my
>>>> phone).
>>>>
>>>> Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/**ChicagoPM/events/129268492/<http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPM/events/129268492/>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Bell
>>>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
>
>
>
> --
>  "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
>   Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
>   by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian Kernighan
>
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From pcmantz at mcpantz.org  Wed Jul 24 11:45:19 2013
From: pcmantz at mcpantz.org (Paul Mantz)
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:45:19 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Planning a Chicago Perl Workshop - Interested?
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Just FYI I work in TechNexus and we recently moved to the Chicago Lyric
Opera building. We are currently in an interim space while the buildout of
our ultimate destination is being finished.

I would not bet on being able to get any meeting space before November at
the earliest, and the final situation probably won't be known until the
beginning of 2014.

Paul Mantz
http://mcpantz.org


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Mike Fragassi <mikefrag at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did Frozen Perl even take place last year?  If the ACT page is up-to-date,
> there hasn't been one since early 2011.
>
> http://act.mongueurs.net/conferences.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's what I was afraid of!
>>
>> The NA Perl Workshops/Conferences I can find are:
>>
>> Pittsburg: Early October
>> DC/Baltimore: Mid-April
>> YAPC: June/July
>> Orlando: Mid-January
>> Frozen Perl: ?? February?
>>
>> Are there any I'm missing?
>>
>> There seems to be a big gap in August/September. Early Sept may be enough
>> time to plan the thing, but is it enough time to get the word out? There's
>> also a gap in March, and Frozen Perl may not be happening anymore, so we
>> could take Feb/Mar (even with the snow, we could call it Chicahguh Weather
>> Appreciation Day).
>>
>> There's also Early November, except YAPC::Brazil is the 15/16th November,
>> so it'd have to be the 1st/2nd of November. After YAPC::Brazil, it's hard
>> to do anything in NA due to the holidays.
>>
>> We're going to have a planning meeting the second week of August (which
>> probably puts September out of the running). If early next year it must be,
>> that's when we'll do it.
>>
>> Something to note: It's hard to find a completely unreserved time period
>> for a brand-new workshop. This is a Good Problem To Have for Perl!
>>
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Robert Blackwell <
>> robert at robertblackwell.com> wrote:
>>
>> Woot! I love Chicago I am so excited to see you planning a workshop. I
>> hope I can make it.
>>
>> Please note that Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is planned for the weekend of
>> of Oct 5 2013.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Doug Bell <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be great! I've evaluated TechNexus from a regular meeting
>>> standpoint, but the low price they have has always been trumped by "I work
>>> in this building" and "It's free".
>>>
>>> But one of the main sticking points for this building and specifically
>>> the floor I can get for free is: No public internet. In fact, now that I
>>> think about it, that may be a deal-breaker.
>>>
>>> So yes, please let me know who to talk to (or talk to them yourself)
>>> about this!
>>>
>>> Doug Bell
>>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Eric Sinclair <esinclai at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> For SecondConf in the first two years we got free weekend space from
>>> TechNexus. If interested I can look for our contact there, though I believe
>>> they are moving facilities soon...
>>>
>>> Last year and this we are paying for a space in the Sears Tower - better
>>> facilities and support on the weekends. But the price at TechNexus was
>>> definitely right!
>>>
>>> --
>>> esinclai at pobox.com (e)
>>> esinclai @ * (im)
>>> On Jul 16, 2013 6:16 PM, "Doug Bell" <madcityzen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Rodland <andrew at cleverdomain.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why Friday rather than Saturday? Just curious.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saturday the building I work in is closed, which means no free
>>>> conference rooms. Free is a wonderful price, though now that you mention
>>>> it, I should check to see what the non-free price is and if it is allowed
>>>> on Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Bell
>>>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>>>>
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From jschueler at eloquency.com  Tue Jul 30 10:12:56 2013
From: jschueler at eloquency.com (Jim Schueler)
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:12:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] new arrival
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Hello Doug.

At last week's meeting, you showed interest in my efforts trying to 
implement Google's OAuth.  Was any of my information helpful?

Thanks again for the hospitality.

  -Jim


On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:

> This request is perfectly on-topic, but unfortunately I don't know of
> anything open for Perl. I've got some Python positions open, if you're
> interested in that.
>
> Doug Bell
> madcityzen at gmail.com
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Jim Schueler <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:
>
>> my wife's job recently relocated her to the windy city so here I am looking for gainful activity.
>>
>> contract programming seems like the obvious first choice or if anyone can recommend a legit recruiter.  perl is my first choice, web development
>> (javascript/jquery/DOM) and java.
>>
>> sorry if the request is out of line... newbie.
>>
>> -Jim
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From madcityzen at gmail.com  Wed Jul 31 06:25:07 2013
From: madcityzen at gmail.com (Doug Bell)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:25:07 -0500
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I haven't gotten the chance yet, but it's good to know there's an implementation I can use/steal ideas from (I have to do it in Python)

Doug Bell
madcityzen at gmail.com



On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Jim Schueler <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:

> Hello Doug.
> 
> At last week's meeting, you showed interest in my efforts trying to implement Google's OAuth.  Was any of my information helpful?
> 
> Thanks again for the hospitality.
> 
> -Jim
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Doug Bell wrote:
> 
>> This request is perfectly on-topic, but unfortunately I don't know of
>> anything open for Perl. I've got some Python positions open, if you're
>> interested in that.
>> 
>> Doug Bell
>> madcityzen at gmail.com
>> 
>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Jim Schueler <jschueler at eloquency.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> my wife's job recently relocated her to the windy city so here I am looking for gainful activity.
>>> 
>>> contract programming seems like the obvious first choice or if anyone can recommend a legit recruiter.  perl is my first choice, web development
>>> (javascript/jquery/DOM) and java.
>>> 
>>> sorry if the request is out of line... newbie.
>>> 
>>> -Jim
>>> _______________________________________________
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