From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 19:37:28 2009 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:37:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC Houston t-shirts In-Reply-To: <549B99C0-145F-4C75-91DF-9ADCA3F86315@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70906240835v121fd4ceqb91fcdffce4cd1c6@mail.gmail.com> <549B99C0-145F-4C75-91DF-9ADCA3F86315@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70907051937m1d521f45lea57d829960b852e@mail.gmail.com> > The biggest you have 4XL of possible. > Hal They had 2XL... I picked one up, if that will do, it's yours, if not, I'll hand it off to someone else. > > On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Joshua wrote: > >> There is a huge pile of YAPC::Houston t-shirts here at >> YAPC::Pittsburgh. ?If anyone wants one, please let me know your size >> and I'll do my best to bring some shirts back... no guarantees though >> :) >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From andy at petdance.com Mon Jul 6 11:34:17 2009 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:34:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Google Technology User Group Message-ID: Reposted from Nola Stowe, mrnicksgirl at gmail.com. A new group is starting up in chicago This is Google Technology User Group meeting; developers, students and entrepreneurs are welcome. This is the first such meeting in Chicago -- it is loaded with interesting information, it is big, it is ambitious, don't miss it. Thanks to courtesy of Google Inc. we will meet at their facility at 20 W. Kinzie, Chicago. We will have a lot of short 15 minute presentations to stimulate the ideas and raise questions after which you will be able to talk to the speaker and Google employee about what sparked your interests. The theme of this meeting is: "Google tools to jump-start your next idea into a social networking start-up" We hope you will walk out of this meeting super-charged to create the next big thing, and that this group will become an incubator for a lot of new ventures in Chicago land area. Agenda: 5:15 PM - Uki D. Lucas (Chicago-GTUG.com): - Introduction 5:30 PM - Gregory Kick (Google.com) - GData, Guice, Google collections 5:45 PM - Nathan Ingersoll (Google.com) - project hosting on Google Code 6:00 PM - Jordan Beck (Revere Group) - GWT and Google AppEngine - Photo Carousel example Widget 6:15 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group) - Facebook for Google Web Toolkit 6:30 PM - Trevor Skaife (Revere Group) - Maven2 dependencies with Google Web Toolkit 6:45 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group) - Google Friend Connect for Google Web Toolkit 7:00 PM - David Lo (Revere Group) - Building mobile applications with Android 7:15 PM - Phil Wodarczyk (Revere Group) - Building application with iPhone (cool bonus presentation) 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM - Questions and Answers We will start at 5 PM, but we want to allow 15 minutes for people to arrive and mingle a bit. The overhead projector, drinks (maybe beer) and snacks will be provided. We still have openings for guest speakers (Social Networking, Google Technology, success stories, etc.), please contact UkiDLucas at mac.com Follow the news and create a buzz on Twitter by including #Chicago- GTUG in your posts. Register for FREE and invite your friends: http://chicago-gtug-20090710.eventbrite.com/ -- http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at heyjay.com Mon Jul 6 20:40:16 2009 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:40:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE Message-ID: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) On the CBOE's web page for delayed quotes they have the following disclaimer: "PLEASE NOTE: IT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED TO DOWNLOAD DELAYED QUOTE TABLE DATA FROM THIS WEB SITE BY USING AUTO-EXTRACTION PROGRAMS/QUERIES AND/OR SOFTWARE. CBOE WILL BLOCK IP ADDRESSES OF ALL PARTIES WHO ATTEMPT TO DO SO. THIS DATA IS PROPERTY OF THOMSON FINANCIAL/ILX. DOWNLOADING THIS DATA IN ANY OTHER WAY THAN BY MANUAL TICKER SYMBOL ENTRY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED" Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't this really just scare language? Thanks Jay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at petdance.com Mon Jul 6 20:41:20 2009 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:41:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <715E02A9-FC09-4D70-AC4F-8FBE4E16FA6B@petdance.com> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't > this really just scare language? No and no. xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From michael at potter.name Mon Jul 6 20:59:15 2009 From: michael at potter.name (Michael Potter) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:59:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) > Jay, Maybe there is something listed here that would help: http://www.webservicelist.com/webservices/c.asp?cid=12&web+services They have 20 minute delayed stock prices, I am not sure about options. If you want near real time data there is no way you are going to get that for free. -- Michael Potter From imranjj at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 21:05:30 2009 From: imranjj at gmail.com (imran javaid) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:05:30 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Putting something on the web does not automatically make it public domain. If all you want is basic data (not quotes), check out http://www.theocc.com/onn/issues/search_issues.jsp it isn't intuitive for scrapping, but can be done, e.g. http://www.theocc.com/cgi-bin/series_search.pl?search=MSQ&type=O I don't know how much they charge for signing up to get the data via an SFTP account. There is a link on the first page for that. -imran On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) > > On the CBOE's web page for delayed quotes they have the following > disclaimer: > > "PLEASE NOTE: IT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED TO DOWNLOAD DELAYED QUOTE TABLE > DATA FROM THIS WEB SITE BY USING AUTO-EXTRACTION PROGRAMS/QUERIES AND/OR > SOFTWARE. CBOE WILL BLOCK IP ADDRESSES OF ALL PARTIES WHO ATTEMPT TO DO SO. > THIS DATA IS PROPERTY OF THOMSON FINANCIAL/ILX. DOWNLOADING THIS DATA IN ANY > OTHER WAY THAN BY MANUAL TICKER SYMBOL ENTRY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED" > > Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't this > really just scare language? > > Thanks > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at heyjay.com Mon Jul 6 21:29:26 2009 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:29:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I wanted to get option prices. Real time is great, but delayed is fine too. Thanks Jay On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Michael Potter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) > > > > Jay, > > Maybe there is something listed here that would help: > > http://www.webservicelist.com/webservices/c.asp?cid=12&web+services > > They have 20 minute delayed stock prices, I am not sure about options. > > If you want near real time data there is no way you are going to get > that for free. > > -- > Michael Potter > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a link on the first page for that. > -imran > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) >> >> On the CBOE's web page for delayed quotes they have the following >> disclaimer: >> >> "PLEASE NOTE: IT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED TO DOWNLOAD DELAYED QUOTE TABLE >> DATA FROM THIS WEB SITE BY USING AUTO-EXTRACTION PROGRAMS/QUERIES AND/OR >> SOFTWARE. CBOE WILL BLOCK IP ADDRESSES OF ALL PARTIES WHO ATTEMPT TO DO SO. >> THIS DATA IS PROPERTY OF THOMSON FINANCIAL/ILX. DOWNLOADING THIS DATA IN ANY >> OTHER WAY THAN BY MANUAL TICKER SYMBOL ENTRY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED" >> >> Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't this >> really just scare language? >> >> Thanks >> Jay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From imranjj at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 04:39:20 2009 From: imranjj at gmail.com (imran javaid) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:39:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to get option prices. Real time is great, but delayed is fine > too. > > Thanks > Jay > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Michael Potter wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, >> expiration...) >> > >> >> Jay, >> >> Maybe there is something listed here that would help: >> >> http://www.webservicelist.com/webservices/c.asp?cid=12&web+services >> >> They have 20 minute delayed stock prices, I am not sure about options. >> >> If you want near real time data there is no way you are going to get >> that for free. >> >> -- >> Michael Potter >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us Tue Jul 7 04:42:49 2009 From: jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:42:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> (Jay Strauss's message of "Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:40:16 -0500") References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <874otou3ba.fsf@bar.jrock.us> * On Mon, Jul 06 2009, Jay Strauss wrote: > Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain?? Isn't this > really just scare language? The data is not public domain, but this is also just a scare tactic. They can block your IP address, but they probably can't take you to court based on the user agent you use to access their website. This was recently in the news, and is relevant: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/lori_drew_conviction_overturned/ Basically, violating a ToS is a contract issue, not a crime. IANAL, though. Buying the data feed is probably cheaper than writing a scraper, if you value your time at all. If you are going to make money off of this project, it's a no-brainer. Finally, can someone unban my "jon at jrock.us" address? I am really tired of faking the From field whenever I post to this list. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$" From fire at dls.net Tue Jul 7 05:10:45 2009 From: fire at dls.net (Bradley Slavik) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:10:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57A99C29-6103-4223-BBEA-446F8F0D5C08@dls.net> If you want this. I can help you if you set up an account I wrote programs to collect and analyze the data feeds at CBOE. This is not a big deal. Of course, data a schlepped around via CORBA, so my work was in Perl. Probably not too difficult to do just the collection in Perl. Bradley On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:39 AM, imran javaid wrote: > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at heyjay.com Tue Jul 7 06:19:25 2009 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:19:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <57A99C29-6103-4223-BBEA-446F8F0D5C08@dls.net> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> <57A99C29-6103-4223-BBEA-446F8F0D5C08@dls.net> Message-ID: <39eaccc10907070619u747c7c2hd33d7201d8344b53@mail.gmail.com> Hi Bradley, thanks for the offer. When you say: "Open an Account", with who? CBOE? Thanks Jay On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Bradley Slavik wrote: > If you want this. I can help you if you set up an account > I wrote programs to collect and analyze the data feeds at > CBOE. This is not a big deal. Of course, data a schlepped > around via CORBA, so my work was in Perl. Probably not too > difficult to do just the collection in Perl. > > Bradley > > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:39 AM, imran javaid wrote: > > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at heyjay.com Tue Jul 7 06:31:35 2009 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:31:35 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <874otou3ba.fsf@bar.jrock.us> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <874otou3ba.fsf@bar.jrock.us> Message-ID: <39eaccc10907070631o1049e19dy51b7e7e883b4f24d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the link. I think it's scare tactic too. Furthermore, most home users (who probably are the most likely users of free delayed quotes) are on dynamic IPs, so banning IPs isn't much of preventative. Jay On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > * On Mon, Jul 06 2009, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't this > > really just scare language? > > The data is not public domain, but this is also just a scare tactic. > They can block your IP address, but they probably can't take you to > court based on the user agent you use to access their website. This was > recently in the news, and is relevant: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/03/lori_drew_conviction_overturned/ > > Basically, violating a ToS is a contract issue, not a crime. IANAL, > though. > > Buying the data feed is probably cheaper than writing a scraper, if you > value your time at all. If you are going to make money off of this > project, it's a no-brainer. > > Finally, can someone unban my "jon at jrock.us" address? I am really tired > of faking the From field whenever I post to this list. > > Regards, > Jonathan Rockway > -- > print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$" > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Real time is great, but delayed is fine >> too. >> >> Thanks >> Jay >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Michael Potter wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, >>> expiration...) >>> > >>> >>> Jay, >>> >>> Maybe there is something listed here that would help: >>> >>> http://www.webservicelist.com/webservices/c.asp?cid=12&web+services >>> >>> They have 20 minute delayed stock prices, I am not sure about options. >>> >>> If you want near real time data there is no way you are going to get >>> that for free. >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Potter >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago-talk mailing list >>> Chicago-talk at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net Tue Jul 7 07:14:38 2009 From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:14:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <39eaccc10907070633k179ced94y8047ce1c80277de4@mail.gmail.com> References: <39eaccc10907062040qf453662ha84db3fc015f27aa@mail.gmail.com> <2379dacc0907062059s507f3e34n8c29492c1be0d914@mail.gmail.com> <39eaccc10907062129j82e1434w2657098d08af6e21@mail.gmail.com> <39eaccc10907070633k179ced94y8047ce1c80277de4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A53584E.80606@mail.edisonave.net> Did you try searching CPAN? http://search.cpan.org/search?query=yahoo+stocks&mode=all Looks to be a couple of good starting points.... -Tom Jay Strauss wrote: > Thanks, > > I was looking at Yahoo after I posted. It would probably be a PITA to > parse it all. Yahoo doesn't seem to provide any API to their Finance > area (outside of RSS feeds). > > Thanks > Jay > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:39 AM, imran javaid > wrote: > > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jay Strauss > wrote: > > Hi, > > I wanted to get option prices. Real time is great, but delayed > is fine too. > > Thanks > Jay > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Michael Potter > > wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want to download equity option data (like price, > strike, expiration...) > > > > Jay, > > Maybe there is something listed here that would help: > > http://www.webservicelist.com/webservices/c.asp?cid=12&web+services > > > They have 20 minute delayed stock prices, I am not sure > about options. > > If you want near real time data there is no way you are > going to get > that for free. > > -- > Michael Potter > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From fire at dls.net Tue Jul 7 08:39:27 2009 From: fire at dls.net (Bradley Slavik) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:39:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE Message-ID: <50794.1246981167@dls.net> With CBOE. They send the data to clients via a CORBA network. You should check into what it costs to become a data subscriber. Might be too expensive. Check with other providers too. You probably cannot afford Bloomberg. But maybe Reuters or another provider. Free data is only useful if you are doing longer term trading. Holding for a few days at a time. Otherwise, you had better rely on some pay service. Bradley On Tue 09/07/07 08:19 , Jay Strauss me at heyjay.com sent: > Hi Bradley, ? thanks for the offer.? When you say: "Open an > Account", ?with who?? CBOE? ? Thanks Jay > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Bradley Slavik wrote: > If you want this. I can help you if you set up an account I wrote > programs to collect and analyze the data feeds at CBOE. This is not a > big deal. Of course, data a schlepped around via CORBA, so my work was > in Perl. Probably not too difficult to do just the collection in > Perl.? > Bradley > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:39 AM, imran javaid wrote: > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 [2] ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk [4] > > > Links: > ------ > [2] http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 > [4] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > From fire at dls.net Tue Jul 7 08:41:06 2009 From: fire at dls.net (Bradley Slavik) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE Message-ID: <25053.1246981266@dls.net> On Tue 09/07/07 08:33 , Jay Strauss me at heyjay.com sent: > Thanks, ? I was looking at Yahoo after I posted.? It would probably > be a PITA to parse it all.? Yahoo doesn't seem to provide any API > to their Finance area (outside of RSS feeds). ? Thanks Jay > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:39 AM, imran javaid wrote: > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 [2] ? ? On Mon, > Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, ? I wanted to get option prices.? Real time is great, but > delayed is fine too. ? Thanks Jay > For shame! Pretty trivial actually. Just use Andy's WWW::Mechanize and you should have what you want quickly. Bradley From me at heyjay.com Tue Jul 7 08:51:48 2009 From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Getting quotes from the CBOE In-Reply-To: <25053.1246981266@dls.net> References: <25053.1246981266@dls.net> Message-ID: <39eaccc10907070851x44e8d7d7hc45a5478f0475d9e@mail.gmail.com> You mean "for shame" the parsing would be trivial? Jay On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Bradley Slavik wrote: > > > On Tue 09/07/07 08:33 , Jay Strauss me at heyjay.com sent: > > Thanks, I was looking at Yahoo after I posted. It would probably > > be a PITA to parse it all. Yahoo doesn't seem to provide any API > > to their Finance area (outside of RSS feeds). Thanks Jay > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:39 AM, imran javaid wrote: > > Real time would not be easy (even if you pay for it). > > For delayed quotes, try Yahoo Finance, e.g. > > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/op?s=IBM&m=2009-07 [2] On Mon, > > Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Hi, I wanted to get option prices. Real time is great, but > > delayed is fine too. Thanks Jay > > > > For shame! Pretty trivial actually. Just use Andy's WWW::Mechanize > and you should have what you want quickly. > > Bradley > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hwigoda at mindspring.com Wed Jul 8 15:03:35 2009 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:35 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Chicago-announce] Google Technology User Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What date?? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > Reposted from Nola Stowe, mrnicksgirl at gmail.com. > > > A new group is starting up in chicago > This is Google Technology User Group meeting; developers, students > and entrepreneurs are welcome. This is the first such meeting in > Chicago -- it is loaded with interesting information, it is big, it > is ambitious, don't miss it. > > Thanks to courtesy of Google Inc. we will meet at their facility at > 20 W. Kinzie, Chicago. > > We will have a lot of short 15 minute presentations to stimulate the > ideas and raise questions after which you will be able to talk to > the speaker and Google employee about what sparked your interests. > > The theme of this meeting is: > > "Google tools to jump-start your next idea into a social networking > start-up" > > We hope you will walk out of this meeting super-charged to create > the next big thing, and that this group will become an incubator for > a lot of new ventures in Chicago land area. > > Agenda: > > 5:15 PM - Uki D. Lucas (Chicago-GTUG.com): > - Introduction > > 5:30 PM - Gregory Kick (Google.com) > - GData, Guice, Google collections > > 5:45 PM - Nathan Ingersoll (Google.com) > - project hosting on Google Code > > 6:00 PM - Jordan Beck (Revere Group) > - GWT and Google AppEngine > - Photo Carousel example Widget > > 6:15 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group) > - Facebook for Google Web Toolkit > > 6:30 PM - Trevor Skaife (Revere Group) > - Maven2 dependencies with Google Web Toolkit > > 6:45 PM - David Wolverton (Revere Group) > - Google Friend Connect for Google Web Toolkit > > 7:00 PM - David Lo (Revere Group) > - Building mobile applications with Android > > 7:15 PM - Phil Wodarczyk (Revere Group) > - Building application with iPhone (cool bonus presentation) > > 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM > - Questions and Answers > > We will start at 5 PM, but we want to allow 15 minutes for people to > arrive and mingle a bit. > > The overhead projector, drinks (maybe beer) and snacks will be > provided. > > We still have openings for guest speakers (Social Networking, Google > Technology, success stories, etc.), please contact UkiDLucas at mac.com > > Follow the news and create a buzz on Twitter by including #Chicago- > GTUG in your posts. > > > Register for FREE and invite your friends: > http://chicago-gtug-20090710.eventbrite.com/ > > -- > http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl > http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-announce mailing list > Chicago-announce at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-announce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Jay #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use LWP::UserAgent; use HTML::Form; use Data::Dumper; my $url = 'http://www.cboe.com/DelayedQuote/QuoteTableDownload.aspx'; my $browser = 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)'; my $symbol = "QQQQ"; my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; $ua->agent($browser); push @{ $ua->requests_redirectable }, 'POST'; my $response = $ua->get($url); my @forms = HTML::Form->parse($response); my $form = $forms[0]; $form->value('ucQuoteTableDownloadCtl:txtTicker' => $symbol); $response = $ua->request($form->click); On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jay Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I want to download equity option data (like price, strike, expiration...) > > On the CBOE's web page for delayed quotes they have the following > disclaimer: > > "PLEASE NOTE: IT IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED TO DOWNLOAD DELAYED QUOTE TABLE > DATA FROM THIS WEB SITE BY USING AUTO-EXTRACTION PROGRAMS/QUERIES AND/OR > SOFTWARE. CBOE WILL BLOCK IP ADDRESSES OF ALL PARTIES WHO ATTEMPT TO DO SO. > THIS DATA IS PROPERTY OF THOMSON FINANCIAL/ILX. DOWNLOADING THIS DATA IN ANY > OTHER WAY THAN BY MANUAL TICKER SYMBOL ENTRY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED" > > Once they put it on the web isn't the data public domain? Isn't this > really just scare language? > > Thanks > Jay > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From v.velox at vvelox.net Sat Jul 11 03:03:50 2009 From: v.velox at vvelox.net (Zane C.B.) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:03:50 +0000 Subject: [Chicago-talk] grammar checking Message-ID: <20090711100350.08dccdb2@vixen42.vulpes> Any one know of any grammar checkers that exist for Perl? From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 09:26:26 2009 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] grammar checking In-Reply-To: <20090711100350.08dccdb2@vixen42.vulpes> References: <20090711100350.08dccdb2@vixen42.vulpes> Message-ID: Perl critic /usr/bin/perl -cw in your porgram: use warnings; use strict; Various editors have syntax highlighting and checking On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Zane C.B. wrote: > Any one know of any grammar checkers that exist for Perl? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From v.velox at vvelox.net Sun Jul 12 00:49:49 2009 From: v.velox at vvelox.net (Zane C.B.) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:49:49 +0000 Subject: [Chicago-talk] grammar checking In-Reply-To: References: <20090711100350.08dccdb2@vixen42.vulpes> Message-ID: <20090712074949.608d8e88@vixen42.vulpes> On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:26:26 -0500 Shawn Carroll wrote: > Perl critic > > /usr/bin/perl -cw > > in your porgram: > use warnings; > use strict; > > Various editors have syntax highlighting and checking Actually I was looking something to checking grammar in text. I did come across something to do it, 'Lingua::LinkParser'. From michael at potter.name Wed Jul 15 07:58:25 2009 From: michael at potter.name (Michael Potter) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Module for catching four letter words? Message-ID: <2379dacc0907150758w2bad7bccva699b3832980037d@mail.gmail.com> Mongers, Is there a Perl 5 module for catching offensive language in an English paragraph. 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Take a look at Regexp::Common. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Thu Jul 16 13:34:24 2009 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group Program--July Message-ID: <413785A1-2DA9-4153-92D7-454D3849FB0E@petdance.com> If you cannot read the information below, click here. 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Pugs has been effectively abandoned, but has provided much of the background and test bed for moving forward with the Perl 6 specification. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From chicago.pm at galumph.com Tue Jul 21 12:00:00 2009 From: chicago.pm at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:00:00 -0700 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl DW/ETL & Perl6 In-Reply-To: <725446.42069.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <725446.42069.qm@web58706.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A661030.4090509@galumph.com> tiger peng wrote: > While looking for work, I am trying to learn Perl6. It seem there are > two compiler Pugs and Rakudo. Could some suggest which one should I > start from? http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?perl_6_implementations From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Thu Jul 23 10:37:53 2009 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:37:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Selfgol no longer works? Message-ID: I remember, long ago, coming down to Chicago for D. Conway's selfgol explanation in a bar session (the explanation made me woozier than the beer as I recall). Trying a copy now (one copy I found): http://www.selectorweb.com/SelfGOL.tar.gz I get a number of failures, that is, -j (and the banner param from: http://libarynth.org/?id=selfgol -b or -d) produces "No" as does the 'turn any pl into a quine' behaviour. Does anybody know if perl versions improvements have broken selfgol? As it is so small #!/usr/local/bin/perl -sw $;=$/;seek+DATA,!++$/,!$s;$_=;$s&&print||$g&&do{$y=($x||=20)*($y||8);sub i{sleep&f}sub'p{print$;x$=,join$;,$b=~/.{$x}/g}$j=$j;sub'f{pop}sub n{substr($b,&f%$y,3)=~tr,O,O,}sub'g{$f=&f-1;($w,$w,substr($b,&f,1),O)[n($f-$x)+ n($x+$f)-(substr($b,&f,1)eq+O)+n$f]||$w}$w="\40";$b=join'', at ARGV?<>:$_,$w x$y;$b=~s).)$&=~/\w/?O:$w)ge;substr($b,$y)=q++;$g='$i=0;$i?$b:$c=$b; substr+$c,$i,1,g$i;$g=~s?\d+?($&+1)%$y?e;$i-$y+1?eval$g:do{$i=-1;$b=$c;p;i 1}';sub'e{eval$g;&e}e}||eval||die+No.$; __DATA__ if($j){{$^W=$|;*_=sub{$=+s=#([A-z])(.*)#=#$+$1#=g}} @s=(q[$_=sprintf+pop at s, at s],q[ if($j){{$^W=$|;*_=sub{$=+s=#([A-z])(.*)#=#$+$1#=g}} #_The_Perl_Journal_# @s=(q[%s],q[%s])x2;%s;print"\n"x&_,$_;i$j;eval} ])x2;$_=sprintf+pop at s, at s;print"\n"x&_,$_;i$j;eval}$/=$y;$"=",";print q<#!/usr/local/bin/perl -sw if(!$s){>.($_=<>).q<}else{@s=(q[printf+pop at s, at s],q[#!/usr/local/bin/perl -sw if(!$s){>.(s$%$%%$g,tr=[=[===tr=]=]=||&d,$_).q<}else{@s=(q[%s],q[%s])x2;%s} ])x2;printf+pop at s, at s} > a ---------------------- Andy Bach Systems Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Voice: (608) 261-5738; Cell: (608) 658-1890 "The lawgiver, of all beings, most owes the law allegiance. They of all people should behave as though the law compelled them. But it is the universal weakness of humankind that what we are given to administer we presently imagine we own." -- H.G. Wells, on being a sys admin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lembark at wrkhors.com Tue Jul 28 09:31:18 2009 From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:31:18 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Selfgol no longer works? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090728123118.60c75301@duke> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:37:53 -0500 Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov wrote: > I remember, long ago, coming down to Chicago for D. Conway's selfgol > explanation in a bar session (the explanation made me woozier than > the beer as I recall). I have the autographed printout :-) > I get a number of failures, that is, -j (and the banner param from: > http://libarynth.org/?id=selfgol > > -b or -d) produces "No" as does the 'turn any pl into a quine' > behaviour. Does anybody know if perl versions improvements have > broken selfgol? As it is so small > > #!/usr/local/bin/perl -sw > $;=$/;seek+DATA,!++$/,!$s;$_=;$s&&print||$g&&do{$y=($x||=20)*($y||8);sub > i{sleep&f}sub'p{print$;x$=,join$;,$b=~/.{$x}/g}$j=$j;sub'f{pop}sub > n{substr($b,&f%$y,3)=~tr,O,O,}sub'g{$f=&f-1;($w,$w,substr($b,&f,1),O)[n($f-$x)+ > n($x+$f)-(substr($b,&f,1)eq+O)+n$f]||$w}$w="\40";$b=join'', at ARGV?<>:$_,$w > x$y;$b=~s).)$&=~/\w/?O:$w)ge;substr($b,$y)=q++;$g='$i=0;$i?$b:$c=$b; > substr+$c,$i,1,g$i;$g=~s?\d+?($&+1)%$y?e;$i-$y+1?eval$g:do{$i=-1;$b=$c;p;i > 1}';sub'e{eval$g;&e}e}||eval||die+No.$; > __DATA__ > if($j){{$^W=$|;*_=sub{$=+s=#([A-z])(.*)#=#$+$1#=g}} > @s=(q[$_=sprintf+pop at s, at s],q[ > if($j){{$^W=$|;*_=sub{$=+s=#([A-z])(.*)#=#$+$1#=g}} > #_The_Perl_Journal_# @s=(q[%s],q[%s])x2;%s;print"\n"x&_,$_;i$j;eval} > ])x2;$_=sprintf+pop at s, at s;print"\n"x&_,$_;i$j;eval}$/=$y;$"=",";print > q<#!/usr/local/bin/perl -sw > if(!$s){>.($_=<>).q<}else{@s=(q[printf+pop at s, at s],q[#!/usr/local/bin/perl > -sw > if(!$s){>.(s$%$%%$g,tr=[=[===tr=]=]=||&d,$_).q<}else{@s=(q[%s],q[%s])x2;%s} > ])x2;printf+pop at s, at s} > > This only works for that particular version [probably sub- & sub-sub] version of Perl due to use of oddities and side-effects. Check the specs for that year's OP contest and see what version they required the code to run on. -- Steven Lembark 85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 lembark at wrkhors.com +1 888 359 3508 From brian at stonehenge.com Wed Jul 29 10:40:28 2009 From: brian at stonehenge.com (brian d foy) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:40:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: [LA.pm] Perlmonks compromised In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2715accf0907291040q743b32acyc7eec5fb7fa01d4c@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ben Tilly Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:18 AM Subject: [LA.pm] Perlmonks compromised To: OC-Perl Mongers , Los Angeles Perl Mongers If you're a janitor or are on Saints In My Book then your password is being circulated in a file named zf05.txt. ?If not, someone still has it. ?Perlmonks may still be compromised, so you should change your password there, then be prepared to change it again. ?And, of course, you should change that password anywhere else that you used it. Ben _______________________________________________ Losangeles-pm mailing list Losangeles-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/