From richard at rushlogistics.com  Mon Feb 16 05:49:54 2009
From: richard at rushlogistics.com (Richard Reina)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:49:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Finding out where a sub is called from
Message-ID: <20090216134954.61B5520D6@courageux.xo.com>

Is there a type of variable that can tell me where a subroutine was called from?

For example if I do:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# caller.pl
require "./script.pl";
my $result = do_it();


#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# script.pl

sub do_it {

# who called for me?

}

From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 05:53:31 2009
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:53:31 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Finding out where a sub is called from
In-Reply-To: <20090216134954.61B5520D6@courageux.xo.com>
References: <20090216134954.61B5520D6@courageux.xo.com>
Message-ID: <c114984c0902160553v29dc5520j51111ff6aa7e5ebd@mail.gmail.com>

http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/caller.html

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Richard Reina
<richard at rushlogistics.com> wrote:
> Is there a type of variable that can tell me where a subroutine was called from?
>
> For example if I do:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> # caller.pl
> require "./script.pl";
> my $result = do_it();
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> # script.pl
>
> sub do_it {
>
> # who called for me?
>
> }
> _______________________________________________
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From davidy at nationalcycle.com  Mon Feb 16 06:50:32 2009
From: davidy at nationalcycle.com (David Young)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:50:32 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Finding out where a sub is called from
Message-ID: <s99928f9.019@email.nationalcycle.com>

I use:  

my $thisSUB = (caller(0))[3];

ydy

>>> shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com 02/16/09 07:53AM >>>
http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/caller.html 

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Richard Reina
<richard at rushlogistics.com> wrote:
> Is there a type of variable that can tell me where a subroutine was called from?
>
> For example if I do:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> # caller.pl
> require "./script.pl";
> my $result = do_it();
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> # script.pl
>
> sub do_it {
>
> # who called for me?
>
> }
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org 
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk 
>



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From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Mon Feb 16 09:14:24 2009
From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:14:24 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Finding out where a sub is called from
In-Reply-To: <s99928f9.019@email.nationalcycle.com>
References: <s99928f9.019@email.nationalcycle.com>
Message-ID: <OFE0A93E5B.8948E4B3-ON8525755F.005E8F34-8625755F.005EA522@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

I've used:
  my $ident = 'web ';
  $ident .= "$DBNAME " if $DBNAME;
  for my $level ( 0 .. 5 ) {
    #my ($package, $filename, $line) = caller($level);
    my ($package, $filename, $line, $subroutine, $hasargs,
        $wantarray, $evaltext, $is_require, $hints, $bitmask)
        = caller($level);
    last unless $filename and $filename =~ /\w/;
    $subroutine = $evaltext if $subroutine eq "(eval)";
    $package = ($package eq "main" ? "" : $package . "::");
    $filename =~ s|\.\./|/|g;
    $filename =~ s|//|/|g;
    $ident .= "called from $package" . "$filename($subroutine line: $line) 
";
  }    # for level

This is to create a preamble to an error msg for use w/ syslog but the 
idea is to walk back the caller stack a ways in case A called B called C 
called D (who's outputting the mgs).

a
-------------------
Andy Bach
Systems Mangler
Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov
Voice: (608) 261-5738; Cell: (608) 658-1890

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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 08:11:26 2009
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:11:26 +0000
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to
	Manage Software Application Delivery
Message-ID: <0015175cfb021a50b204631f8e97@google.com>

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Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to Manage Software  
Application Delivery


Why Java is the wrong language for building and deploying Java applications  
and why Perl is probably the best? Sean Blanton will explain how OpenMake  
Software uses Perl to build tens of thousands of Java , .NET, C/C++, COBOL  
business applications in the financial, retail, transportation and software  
industries and will illustrate how Perl is used for software configuration  
management by IBM, CA and open source projects.

Sean works for OpenMake, a successful local software company, large Perl  
user, and a YAPC Chicago sponsor and supporter.

The meeting will start at 7pm and will be on the 17th floor of the Google  
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 08:07:46 2009
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:07:46 +0000
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to
	Manage Software Application Delivery
Message-ID: <0016364ee126046e9b04631f81c5@google.com>

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Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to Manage Software  
Application Delivery


Why Java is the wrong language for building and deploying Java applications  
and why Perl is probably the best? Sean Blanton will explain how OpenMake  
Software uses Perl to build tens of thousands of Java , .NET, C/C++, COBOL  
business applications in the financial, retail, transportation and software  
industries and will illustrate how Perl is used for software configuration  
management by IBM, CA and open source projects.

Sean works for OpenMake, a successful local software company, large Perl  
user, and a YAPC Chicago sponsor and supporter.

The meeting will start at 7pm and will be on the 17th floor of the Google  
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From jason at froebe.net  Tue Feb 17 10:34:34 2009
From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:34:34 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Need help naming a Flickr perl module before going
	to CPAN
Message-ID: <499B033A.3050902@froebe.net>

Hi all,

I've just put out an early alpha of a Flickr API Perl module that uses
XML::Simple instead of XML::Parser::Lite::Tree.

Flickr::API, Flickr::Tools, Flickr::Simple are all taken.  I'm coming up
blank for a name of the module.  It is temporarily named Flickr::Simple2
until I can come up with another name.

Any ideas for a name?

http://froebe.net/blog/2009/02/17/alpha-test-release-of-flickrsimple2/

-- 
Jason L. Froebe
http://www.froebe.net/blog

From andy at petdance.com  Tue Feb 17 10:36:39 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:36:39 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Need help naming a Flickr perl module before
	going to CPAN
In-Reply-To: <499B033A.3050902@froebe.net>
References: <499B033A.3050902@froebe.net>
Message-ID: <967CF9C9-E54E-4C00-8F0D-6562922297A8@petdance.com>


On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Jason L. Froebe wrote:

> Flickr::API, Flickr::Tools, Flickr::Simple are all taken.  I'm  
> coming up
> blank for a name of the module.  It is temporarily named  
> Flickr::Simple2
> until I can come up with another name.


Go for something less boring.  Flickr::Whacker.  Or Flickr::Whackr.   
It doesn't have to be a boring old same-old same-old noun.

xoa

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance




From shild at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 17 10:33:24 2009
From: shild at sbcglobal.net (Scott T. Hildreth)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:33:24 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Need help naming a Flickr perl module
	before	going to CPAN
In-Reply-To: <499B033A.3050902@froebe.net>
References: <499B033A.3050902@froebe.net>
Message-ID: <1234895604.58424.39.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org>

On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:34 -0600, Jason L. Froebe wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just put out an early alpha of a Flickr API Perl module that uses
> XML::Simple instead of XML::Parser::Lite::Tree.
> 
> Flickr::API, Flickr::Tools, Flickr::Simple are all taken.  I'm coming up
> blank for a name of the module.  It is temporarily named Flickr::Simple2
> until I can come up with another name.

Flickr::Uses::XML::Simple::Instead::Of::XML::Parser::Lite::Tree.

:-)

> 
> Any ideas for a name?
> 
> http://froebe.net/blog/2009/02/17/alpha-test-release-of-flickrsimple2/
> 


From hwigoda at mindspring.com  Tue Feb 17 14:39:01 2009
From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (hwigoda at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:39:01 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl
	to	Manage Software Application Delivery
Message-ID: <15021555.1234910341461.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


i will try to make it.

hal wigoda



-----Original Message-----
>From: Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 17, 2009 10:07 AM
>To: chicago-talk at pm.org
>Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to	Manage Software Application Delivery
>
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>
>
>Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to Manage Software  
>Application Delivery
>
>
>Why Java is the wrong language for building and deploying Java applications  
>and why Perl is probably the best? Sean Blanton will explain how OpenMake  
>Software uses Perl to build tens of thousands of Java , .NET, C/C++, COBOL  
>business applications in the financial, retail, transportation and software  
>industries and will illustrate how Perl is used for software configuration  
>management by IBM, CA and open source projects.
>
>Sean works for OpenMake, a successful local software company, large Perl  
>user, and a YAPC Chicago sponsor and supporter.
>
>The meeting will start at 7pm and will be on the 17th floor of the Google  
>office at 20 W Kinzie. Please RSVP so that you don't get hassled at the  
>door :)
>
>
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>
>
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From fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 21 12:49:51 2009
From: fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com (Craig)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:49:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
Message-ID: <9808.13256.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown host or i mispell it any ideas

i useing xchat.


      

From jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us  Sat Feb 21 13:19:47 2009
From: jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:19:47 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <9808.13256.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Craig's message of
	"Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:49:51 -0800 (PST)")
References: <9808.13256.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <877i3jo5cc.fsf@bar.jrock.us>

* On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Craig wrote:
> Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown host or i mispell it any ideas
>
> i useing xchat.

Parse error at line... all of them.

Anyway, try 217.168.150.167, which is magnet.shadowcat.co.uk.  Sometimes
a server on the irc.perl.org dns round robin is down, but that one
usually isn't.

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway

--
print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

From fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 21 13:25:30 2009
From: fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com (Craig)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:25:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
Message-ID: <784033.8388.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i try that one and i got the same error.

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Jonathan Rockway <jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us> wrote:

From: Jonathan Rockway <jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:19 PM

* On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Craig wrote:
> Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown host or i mispell it any ideas
>
> i useing xchat.

Parse error at line... all of them.

Anyway, try 217.168.150.167, which is magnet.shadowcat.co.uk.? Sometimes
a server on the irc.perl.org dns round robin is down, but that one
usually isn't.

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway

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From kent at c2group.net  Sat Feb 21 14:02:55 2009
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:02:55 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <784033.8388.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <784033.8388.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4270A49B-45C4-423B-AA2A-9AE47319824A@c2group.net>


On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Craig <fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> i try that one and i got the same error.
>
> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Jonathan Rockway <jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us>  
> wrote:
>
> From: Jonathan Rockway <jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:19 PM
>
> * On Sat, Feb 21 2009, Craig wrote:
> > Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown  
> host or i mispell it any ideas
> >
> > i useing xchat.

Maybe your ISP blocks irc because "only hackers use irc".


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From arodland at comcast.net  Sat Feb 21 15:33:10 2009
From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:33:10 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <9808.13256.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9808.13256.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200902211733.10514.arodland@comcast.net>

On Saturday 21 February 2009 02:49:51 pm Craig wrote:
> Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown host or
> i mispell it any ideas
>
There was a problem with the entire perl.org domain earlier today stemming 
from a mistake at the domain registrar. It should be fixed now. If you're 
still having problems, blame DNS caching and wait until tomorrow, it will be 
fine by then.

Andrew


From fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 21 15:40:30 2009
From: fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com (Craig)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:40:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
Message-ID: <576728.48524.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All i had to do was /server irc.perl.org and it worked:)


thank for the help.

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Andrew Rodland <arodland at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Andrew Rodland <arodland at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] irc.perl.org
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:33 PM


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On Saturday 21 February 2009 02:49:51 pm Craig wrote:
> Is anyone have prob with irc.perl.org i log in and tell me unknown host or
> i mispell it any ideas
>
There was a problem with the entire perl.org domain earlier today stemming 
from a mistake at the domain registrar. It should be fixed now. If you're 
still having problems, blame DNS caching and wait until tomorrow, it will be 
fine by then.

Andrew

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From andy at petdance.com  Mon Feb 23 12:40:49 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:40:49 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] OpenMake
Message-ID: <691F9A09-7541-40C3-9B02-480836EC239D@petdance.com>

I'm thinking about coming down for tomorrow's meeting, because I'm  
interested in non-Make tools for Rakudo.

But I don't see anything that shows that OpenMake is actually open  
source, despite the "Open" in their name.  Am I missing something?

xoa




--
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From jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us  Mon Feb 23 13:07:16 2009
From: jon-chicagotalk at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:07:16 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] OpenMake
In-Reply-To: <691F9A09-7541-40C3-9B02-480836EC239D@petdance.com> (Andy
	Lester's message of "Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:40:49 -0600")
References: <691F9A09-7541-40C3-9B02-480836EC239D@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <87fxi4x3p7.fsf@bar.jrock.us>

* On Mon, Feb 23 2009, Andy Lester wrote:
> I'm thinking about coming down for tomorrow's meeting, because I'm
> interested in non-Make tools for Rakudo.
>
> But I don't see anything that shows that OpenMake is actually open
> source, despite the "Open" in their name.  Am I missing something?

The only open source thing I see on their website is:

http://www.openmakesoftware.com/get-mojo/

I think the "open" means "open for business", but I could be wrong.

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway

--
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From sean at blanton.com  Mon Feb 23 14:12:05 2009
From: sean at blanton.com (Sean Blanton, Ph.D.)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:12:05 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] OpenMake
In-Reply-To: <f5cbb6b60902231311p7d45d7f6tb3cb21d5a41399a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <691F9A09-7541-40C3-9B02-480836EC239D@petdance.com>
	<f5cbb6b60902231311p7d45d7f6tb3cb21d5a41399a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f5cbb6b60902231412l5541bfa8h39487551699d7c4e@mail.gmail.com>

Some mail program went haywire somewhere. What I thought I sent is not in my
'sent' box - sorry if it's a dup.

"open" 13 years ago meant "open systems" as in Windows/UNIX and now Linux.
So, no, not open source. Since relevance may be questionable, I won't spend
a lot of time on Openmake itself and generally talk about applications of
Perl in managing software changes including version control, builds and
deployment.

Sean Blanton, Ph.D.


On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Sean Blanton, Ph.D. <sean at blanton.com>wrote:

> Perl is the central theme, still, with code examples. That description
> didn't sound like a lot of Perl.
> Sean Blanton, Ph.D.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about coming down for tomorrow's meeting, because I'm
>> interested in non-Make tools for Rakudo.
>>
>> But I don't see anything that shows that OpenMake is actually open source,
>> despite the "Open" in their name.  Am I missing something?
>>
>> xoa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 20:45:46 2009
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:45:46 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: [WindyCity-pm] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th
	- Using Perl to Manage Software Application Delivery
In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47b0605a4b304631f81a9@google.com>
References: <000e0cd47b0605a4b304631f81a9@google.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70902232045w7539c06j7975a55a4b0a000f@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder, the meeting is Tuesday.  Please RSVP by noon!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Subject: [WindyCity-pm] Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl
to Manage Software Application Delivery
To: windycity-pm at pm.org


If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out online:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cE9DbVRDTjZWV0RhZnZfVHdEaGg5Snc6MA..

Chicago.pm Meeting February 24th - Using Perl to Manage Software
Application Delivery

Why Java is the wrong language for building and deploying Java
applications and why Perl is probably the best? ? Sean Blanton will
explain how OpenMake Software uses Perl to build tens of thousands of
Java , .NET, C/C++, COBOL business applications in the financial,
retail, transportation and software industries and will illustrate how
Perl is used for software configuration management by IBM, CA and open
source projects.

Sean works for OpenMake, a successful local software company, large
Perl user, and a YAPC Chicago sponsor and supporter.

The meeting will start at 7pm and will be on the 17th floor of the
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 21:23:32 2009
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:23:32 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] </chicago-pm-meeting>
Message-ID: <49d805d70902242123i40353d7fo62ccce66489c4c35@mail.gmail.com>

Whew, another Chicago.pm meeting is done.  From what I heard, this was
the best Chicago.pm meeting this month, so we have something to be
proud of!

We had two great presentations.  Kicking things off was Jon Rockway
with a talk about KiokuDB (http://www.iinteractive.com/kiokudb/) and
closing out the show was Sean Blanton with a talk about OpenMake
(http://www.openmakesoftware.com/) and how they use Perl (without
strict!) to drive massive build systems.

We also handed out a few books procured by Pete Krawczyk from the
folks at O'Reilly.  The books this time around were "Visualizing Data"
(http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514556/) and "Intellectual Property
and Open Source" (http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517960).  Thanks
O'Reilly!

After the meeting we went down the block to Dick's Last Resort were we
had a few drinks on OpenMake (thanks Sean!) and were subjected to
music from what had to be the luckiest band ever... nobody who sounded
like that should ever get a gig :)  I guess that's what we get for
having a meeting on Mardi Gras, or as Pete calls it, Paczki Day.

That makes two great Chicago Perl meet-ups in a row this year.  Let's
keep the streak going.  Our next meeting is Tuesday March 24th and
will most likely be held at the Google offices again at 20 W Kinzie.
There are no topics yet, though it was mentioned that it was high time
for the chart-off to actually happen.  Also, there is rumor that
Steven Little, creator of Moose, will be on-hand next time around...
we can always hope.

Comments, criticisms, and suggestions welcome.  Please send them to
spam at example.com.

Josh

From sean at blanton.com  Wed Feb 25 08:34:17 2009
From: sean at blanton.com (Sean Blanton, Ph.D.)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:34:17 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] In partial defense of no 'use strict'
Message-ID: <f5cbb6b60902250834x4d83987at96001e38db0719fd@mail.gmail.com>

In partial defense, the Perl stubs are not whole scripts and variable
declarations may be prepended later. So 'use strict' in the stub will always
cause lots of errors if you run a 'perl -c' on the stub. When editing the
stub by itself, it is still useful in to run 'perl -c' to catch other
errors.
OK, the header could have 'use strict'...

I always use strict in my normal code - saves time, plain and simple.

Sean

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Joshua McAdams
<joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>wrote:

> Whew, another Chicago.pm meeting is done.  From what I heard, this was
> the best Chicago.pm meeting this month, so we have something to be
> proud of!
>
> We had two great presentations.  Kicking things off was Jon Rockway
> with a talk about KiokuDB (http://www.iinteractive.com/kiokudb/) and
> closing out the show was Sean Blanton with a talk about OpenMake
> (http://www.openmakesoftware.com/) and how they use Perl (without
> strict!) to drive massive build systems.
>
> We also handed out a few books procured by Pete Krawczyk from the
> folks at O'Reilly.  The books this time around were "Visualizing Data"
> (http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514556/) and "Intellectual Property
> and Open Source" (http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517960).  Thanks
> O'Reilly!
>
> After the meeting we went down the block to Dick's Last Resort were we
> had a few drinks on OpenMake (thanks Sean!) and were subjected to
> music from what had to be the luckiest band ever... nobody who sounded
> like that should ever get a gig :)  I guess that's what we get for
> having a meeting on Mardi Gras, or as Pete calls it, Paczki Day.
>
> That makes two great Chicago Perl meet-ups in a row this year.  Let's
> keep the streak going.  Our next meeting is Tuesday March 24th and
> will most likely be held at the Google offices again at 20 W Kinzie.
> There are no topics yet, though it was mentioned that it was high time
> for the chart-off to actually happen.  Also, there is rumor that
> Steven Little, creator of Moose, will be on-hand next time around...
> we can always hope.
>
> Comments, criticisms, and suggestions welcome.  Please send them to
> spam at example.com.
>
> Josh
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
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From tprinty at mail.edisonave.net  Thu Feb 26 12:01:43 2009
From: tprinty at mail.edisonave.net (Tom Printy)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:01:43 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Job Op
Message-ID: <49A6F527.6090606@mail.edisonave.net>

Don't know if any perl guys/gals are looking for a new gig but I thought 
I would pass this along as I am not currently looking. Please contact 
Edward directly.


EVP ? Fermi is a fascinating place to work.  It is one of the leading 
Departments of Energy and recently became a partner on the Serne project 
in Switzerland.  They bring in professors and physicists from all over 
the world to participate in energy research projects.  They have a 30 
acre facility in Batavia, IL with a daycare, work out facility, and 
restaurant on site.  Fermi is also responsible for 8 terabytes of data 
that is utilized for research.



6-12 Month Contract



SUMMARY OF RESPONSIBILITIES:  Under general direction, formulates and 
defines system scope and objectives, and participates as high level 
technical expert in design, development, coding, testing, and debugging 
new software or significant enhancements to existing software. Devises 
or modifies procedures to solve complex problems considering computer 
equipment capacity and limitations, operating time, and form of desired 
results. Prepares detailed specifications from which programs will be 
written. Works with technical staff to understand problems with software 
and develops specifications to resolve them. Designs, codes, tests, 
debugs, and documents programs.

  Plan, analyze, design, develop, test, and ensures quality assurance, 
and participates in design discussions, authors design notes, and 
contributes to and leads design efforts.



DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES:

?         Designs, codes, tests, debugs, documents and maintains 
applications, systems and/or libraries.

?         Participates in design discussions and authors design notes.

?         Contributes to design efforts, regularly gathers requirements 
and information from users for specific projects, and obtains feedback.

?         Develops and implements specifications for several small to 
large inter-related projects.

?         Communicates and coordinates with other technical personnel 
working closely on a project, including those from non-computing 
disciplines.

?         Communicates effectively with management, peers and 
stakeholders, in written and oral form.

?         Acts as a primary contact for system and operational problems 
and acts frequently as a liaison; investigating, localizing and 
resolving or directing others to resolve problems as assigned.

?         Performs operational and/or maintenance activities for one or 
more specific projects as assigned.

?         Responsible for a phase of a project or acts as team leader on 
less complex projects as assigned.

?         Provides guidance and training to less experienced members as 
needed.

?         Abides by and is responsible for performing all duties as 
assigned and in accordance with all environmental, health and safety 
regulations and practices pertinent to this position.



Required Skills:

?         Be able to develop network applications in Perl using 
databases such as Oracle or MySQL.

?         Experience with planning, analyzing, designing, developing, 
monitoring and testing network-based applications to various systems 
using published API?s.

?         Able to lead projects and work well in groups.



Desired Skills:

?         Be able to develop network applications in Python, VB Script, 
or PHP.

?         Familiarity with network applications and devices such as DNS, 
DHCP and network routers.

?         Familiarity with network management systems and helpdesk 
systems such as Remedy.



In general, the type or work would be: DAY TO DAY

--Using application API's from management systems, create service 
tickets in Remedy for network events

--Using application API's from network devices, update Oracle-based 
databases

--Rebuild the Site Networking web site

--Rebuild visitor registration web site

--Debug existing applications in Perl, possibly rewrite applications on 
Perl or Python

--Work with existing programming staff on various projects as requested







Tom Edwards, Technical Recruiter
1400 Opus Place Ste. 800, Downers Grove, IL, 60515
T 630.795.3305
F 630.795.3390
http://www.teksystems.com/http://www.teksystems.com/


From lembark at wrkhors.com  Sat Feb 28 08:45:05 2009
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:45:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] In partial defense of no 'use strict'
In-Reply-To: <f5cbb6b60902250834x4d83987at96001e38db0719fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5cbb6b60902250834x4d83987at96001e38db0719fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49A96A11.2030406@wrkhors.com>


> In partial defense, the Perl stubs are not whole scripts and variable
> declarations may be prepended later. So 'use strict' in the stub will
> always cause lots of errors if you run a 'perl -c' on the stub. When
> editing the stub by itself, it is still useful in to run 'perl -c' to
> catch other errors.
> 
> OK, the header could have 'use strict'...

Why bother if it interferes with your development
in the project? Strict isn't built into the language
in part because there are legit reasons NOT to use
it in some cases.

-- 
Steven Lembark                                            85-09 90th St.
Workhorse Computing                                 Woodhaven, NY, 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                      +1 888 359 3508

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 15:46:34 2009
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:46:34 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: [Chicago] Flourish 2009 Registration Now Open
In-Reply-To: <1235102418.9778.76.camel@stox.dyndns.org>
References: <1235102418.9778.76.camel@stox.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <49d805d70902281546t5dac1b39s5040402b2e5729b6@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if this has beet passed to the list yet, but Flourish is
coming up and the registration is open....


FLOURISH 2009 BRINGS TOGETHER OPEN-SOURCE EXPERTS
FROM AROUND CHICAGO, THE MIDWEST, AND AROUND THE
WORLD



WHAT

? ? ? ?Flourish 2009


? ? ? ?Flourish is an annual conference dedicated
? ? ? ?to bringing together experts and enthusiasts
? ? ? ?in Free, Libre, Open Source Software (FLOSS).

? ? ? ?Attendees of Flourish have an opportunity to
? ? ? ?see how using, creating and supporting FLOSS
? ? ? ?can enhance their careers, businesses and
? ? ? ?academic aspirations.

? ? ? ?Admission always free.

WHO

The University of Illinois at Chicago's ACM and IEEE chapters, with
sponsorship from Motorola, Sun Microsystems, Orbitz, and others.

WHY

- Key open-source topics such as Google Android, Kubuntu, the Linux
kernel, open mapping, user interfaces, music collaboration, and
energy-efficient supercomputing.


- Speakers like Ruby On Rails creator David Heinemeier Hansson,
open-source law expert Daliah Sapers, and kernel hacker Christoph
Lameter,

- In-depth workshops on Erlang, Drupal, OpenSolaris, and Processing.


WHEN

? ? ? ?April 3 - 4, 2009
? ? ? ?9am - 5pm

WHERE

? ? ? ?UIC Student Center East
? ? ? ?750 South Halsted

HOW

Register at:

http://www.flourishconf.com/register

Follow updates via Twitter: http://twitter.com/flourishconf/