From andy at petdance.com  Thu Nov  1 11:41:36 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:41:36 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
Message-ID: <705C5C26-E545-48C7-85DE-F3B76DD8C703@petdance.com>

I've turned the list back on.  Please keep things civil.

Thank you,
Andy

--
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From jon at jrock.us  Thu Nov  1 12:14:56 2007
From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:14:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <705C5C26-E545-48C7-85DE-F3B76DD8C703@petdance.com>
References: <705C5C26-E545-48C7-85DE-F3B76DD8C703@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <472A25B0.9020309@jrock.us>

Andy Lester wrote:
> I've turned the list back on.  Please keep things civil.
>   

Due to this tirade, I'd like to request that you relinquish ownership of
the list. 

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway


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From hwigoda at mindspring.com  Thu Nov  1 12:53:53 2007
From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (hwigoda at mindspring.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:53:53 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
Message-ID: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


oh, relax.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us>
>Sent: Nov 1, 2007 1:14 PM
>To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
>Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
>
>Andy Lester wrote:
>> I've turned the list back on.  Please keep things civil.
>>   
>
>Due to this tirade, I'd like to request that you relinquish ownership of
>the list. 
>
>Regards,
>Jonathan Rockway
>
>


From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 12:58:57 2007
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <c114984c0711011258t90de52sedb699738e2511e2@mail.gmail.com>

Give it a rest Jon.

-- 
shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com
Perl Programmer
Soccer Referee


On 11/1/07, hwigoda at mindspring.com <hwigoda at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> oh, relax.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us>
> >Sent: Nov 1, 2007 1:14 PM
> >To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
> >
> >Andy Lester wrote:
> >> I've turned the list back on.  Please keep things civil.
> >>
> >
> >Due to this tirade, I'd like to request that you relinquish ownership of
> >the list.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jonathan Rockway
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From jon at jrock.us  Thu Nov  1 13:51:36 2007
From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:51:36 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <c114984c0711011258t90de52sedb699738e2511e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<c114984c0711011258t90de52sedb699738e2511e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <472A3C58.6090300@jrock.us>

Shawn Carroll wrote:
> Give it a rest Jon.
>   
http://xrl.us/74yu :)

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From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 13:53:14 2007
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:53:14 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <472A3C58.6090300@jrock.us>
References: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<c114984c0711011258t90de52sedb699738e2511e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<472A3C58.6090300@jrock.us>
Message-ID: <c114984c0711011353n3f37d6b9k67dafe8ad3768d1c@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/1/07, Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote:
> Shawn Carroll wrote:
> > Give it a rest Jon.
> >
> http://xrl.us/74yu :)
>

Now, that was funny.


-- 
shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com
Perl Programmer
Soccer Referee

From me at heyjay.com  Thu Nov  1 16:29:15 2007
From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <c114984c0711011353n3f37d6b9k67dafe8ad3768d1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<c114984c0711011258t90de52sedb699738e2511e2@mail.gmail.com>
	<472A3C58.6090300@jrock.us>
	<c114984c0711011353n3f37d6b9k67dafe8ad3768d1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aabc51b60711011629s44a337a8nf1fc28296b8e5464@mail.gmail.com>

I like turtles.

Jay

From arodland at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 18:41:16 2007
From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] The list is back on
In-Reply-To: <aabc51b60711011629s44a337a8nf1fc28296b8e5464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30345960.1193946834335.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<c114984c0711011353n3f37d6b9k67dafe8ad3768d1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<aabc51b60711011629s44a337a8nf1fc28296b8e5464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200711012041.16353.arodland@comcast.net>

On Thursday 01 November 2007 06:29:15 pm Jay Strauss wrote:
> I like turtles.
>
Me too. Whoever had the idea to take the brownie (delicious and moist as it 
is) and add caramel and pecans, is a hero to me.

> Jay

Andrew

From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov  Fri Nov  2 07:07:25 2007
From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:07:25 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
Message-ID: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Newbie that wanted to say HI yall 
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From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 07:34:07 2007
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:34:07 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <c114984c0711020734m90bc7fan27143ba7705c9acf@mail.gmail.com>

How far south?  There is at least two of us in the Lincoln-Way
Tinley/Orland area.

-- 
shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com
Perl Programmer
Soccer Referee


On 11/2/07, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov
<Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
> Newbie that wanted to say HI yall
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From andy at petdance.com  Fri Nov  2 07:33:56 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:33:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <7493148B-B2EE-45A0-8B0D-0F54CB966BE8@petdance.com>


On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov wrote:

>
> Newbie that wanted to say HI yall

Howdy, what are you doing with Perl?

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From kent at c2group.net  Fri Nov  2 08:01:54 2007
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:01:54 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFD20A820E.D1965048-ON86257387.004D75EE-86257387.004D953B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <3EABEFC6-853B-4929-9CD0-2628373CB699@c2group.net>

Welcome!

-Kent Cowgill

C2 Group, Inc.                                             
kent at c2group.net
http://www.c2group.net                                         
312.804.0160


On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov wrote:

>
> Newbie that wanted to say HI yall
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk


From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov  Fri Nov  2 08:20:47 2007
From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:20:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago training in December
Message-ID: <OF82D2092F.C6C3D55D-ON86257387.005412F9-86257387.00544D1B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Im registering for the trianing by Stonehendge in December.

The Hostel International reservation ask for a member number
is their one???

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From andy at petdance.com  Fri Nov  2 08:25:03 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:25:03 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago training in December
In-Reply-To: <OF82D2092F.C6C3D55D-ON86257387.005412F9-86257387.00544D1B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OF82D2092F.C6C3D55D-ON86257387.005412F9-86257387.00544D1B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <B8B43405-FA38-490D-B01A-4C45EB3A440D@petdance.com>


On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov wrote:

>
> Im registering for the trianing by Stonehendge in December.
>
> The Hostel International reservation ask for a member number
> is their one???

You'd want to talk to brian d foy about that.

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov  Fri Nov  2 10:01:40 2007
From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:01:40 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <c114984c0711020734m90bc7fan27143ba7705c9acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Arkansas  Little Rock.
Im with the Bankruptcy Court in Arkansas
Most of our  applications are written in PERL.
I have a few I call my own. Andy Bach got me hooked 
on PERL a few years ago and I have been writing chity code  ever since. 
lol 
XP gives me a headache. 





"Shawn Carroll" <shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com> 
Sent by: chicago-talk-bounces+vernon_dainwood=areb.uscourts.gov at pm.org
11/02/2007 09:34 AM
Please respond to
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>


To
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
cc

Subject
Re: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs






How far south?  There is at least two of us in the Lincoln-Way
Tinley/Orland area.

-- 
shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com
Perl Programmer
Soccer Referee


On 11/2/07, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov
<Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
> Newbie that wanted to say HI yall
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
_______________________________________________
Chicago-talk mailing list
Chicago-talk at pm.org
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From andy at petdance.com  Fri Nov  2 10:04:56 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:04:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <67992E98-25C2-4B41-86C7-EAC89DB9A6AF@petdance.com>


On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov wrote:

> Arkansas  Little Rock.
> Im with the Bankruptcy Court in Arkansas


Ooooh, THAT far south.  We thought you meant south Chicago suburbs. :-)

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From zrusilla at mac.com  Fri Nov  2 10:10:58 2007
From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:10:58 -0700
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <67992E98-25C2-4B41-86C7-EAC89DB9A6AF@petdance.com>
References: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
	<67992E98-25C2-4B41-86C7-EAC89DB9A6AF@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <3022E1FC-0115-1000-93C8-DD50C2C79179-Webmail-10024@mac.com>



 
>> Arkansas  Little Rock.
>
>Ooooh, THAT far south.  We thought you meant south Chicago suburbs. :-)

He and Josh McAdams could start up an Arkansas.pm in Chicago.

From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov  Fri Nov  2 10:42:01 2007
From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:42:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <3022E1FC-0115-1000-93C8-DD50C2C79179-Webmail-10024@mac.com>
Message-ID: <OFE94D9C87.CF8014B8-ON86257387.0061220A-86257387.00613B3D@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

If its OK .. I would like to stay . .. We are scheduled to get electricity 
next year. 




Elizabeth Cortell <zrusilla at mac.com> 
Sent by: chicago-talk-bounces+vernon_dainwood=areb.uscourts.gov at pm.org
11/02/2007 12:10 PM
Please respond to
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>


To
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
cc

Subject
Re: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs








 
>> Arkansas  Little Rock.
>
>Ooooh, THAT far south.  We thought you meant south Chicago suburbs. :-)

He and Josh McAdams could start up an Arkansas.pm in Chicago.
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From zrusilla at mac.com  Fri Nov  2 11:11:30 2007
From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:11:30 -0700
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OFE94D9C87.CF8014B8-ON86257387.0061220A-86257387.00613B3D@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFE94D9C87.CF8014B8-ON86257387.0061220A-86257387.00613B3D@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <3022E1FC-0115-1000-9574-DD50C2C79179-Webmail-10024@mac.com>

<Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>If its OK .. I would like to stay 

You are welcome. Chicago.pm is a state of mind.  I follow the saga from Los Angeles, myself. 


From andy at petdance.com  Fri Nov  2 11:53:03 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OFE94D9C87.CF8014B8-ON86257387.0061220A-86257387.00613B3D@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFE94D9C87.CF8014B8-ON86257387.0061220A-86257387.00613B3D@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <5DEF98EA-D634-4104-B061-40769BBEE233@petdance.com>


On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:42 PM, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov wrote:

>
> If its OK .. I would like to stay . .. We are scheduled to get  
> electricity next year.


Once you get electricity, you'll never go back.

I heartily recommend joining multiple PM groups.  I'm joined up with  
Minneapolis, LA, Akron and Omaha that I can think of right off.

xoxo,
Andy

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 16:41:35 2007
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:41:35 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago training in December
In-Reply-To: <OF82D2092F.C6C3D55D-ON86257387.005412F9-86257387.00544D1B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OF82D2092F.C6C3D55D-ON86257387.005412F9-86257387.00544D1B@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <2715accf0711021641u7ac90173q53dc889fdcca04d2@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/2/07, Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov
<Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov> wrote:

> Im registering for the trianing by Stonehendge in December.
>
> The Hostel International reservation ask for a member number
> is their one???

The training does not handle your accomodations. You have to make your
own reservations and arrangements, so you'll have to create your own
account with them.

-- 
brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 18:06:12 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:06:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <3022E1FC-0115-1000-93C8-DD50C2C79179-Webmail-10024@mac.com>
References: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
	<67992E98-25C2-4B41-86C7-EAC89DB9A6AF@petdance.com>
	<3022E1FC-0115-1000-93C8-DD50C2C79179-Webmail-10024@mac.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711021806n6626bd4blcc82f385775222a1@mail.gmail.com>

> >Ooooh, THAT far south.  We thought you meant south Chicago suburbs. :-)
>
> He and Josh McAdams could start up an Arkansas.pm in Chicago.

No doubt... I couldn't find any other Perl peeps when I lived in Little Rock.

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 18:07:09 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:07:09 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <c114984c0711020734m90bc7fan27143ba7705c9acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711021807v563a3442qd8b46381c6dae6c8@mail.gmail.com>

> Most of our  applications are written in PERL.

Just a word of caution... you might want to drop the cap in ERL around
lists like these :)

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Sat Nov  3 05:24:58 2007
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:24:58 -0700
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711021807v563a3442qd8b46381c6dae6c8@mail.gmail.com>
	(Joshua McAdams's message of "Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:07:09 -0500")
References: <c114984c0711020734m90bc7fan27143ba7705c9acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF20A65A06.ADBCD2AD-ON86257387.005CF3D6-86257387.005D89AA@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
	<49d805d70711021807v563a3442qd8b46381c6dae6c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86hck3tt2d.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> writes:

>> Most of our  applications are written in PERL.
Joshua> Just a word of caution... you might want to drop the cap in ERL around
Joshua> lists like these :)

Yeah.  "Goodbye ERL"!

:-)

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!

From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov  Mon Nov  5 10:42:46 2007
From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:42:46 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711021807v563a3442qd8b46381c6dae6c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFB4EC78FE.1AAC8B4E-ON8625738A.0066A448-8625738A.0066CD02@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

 I debated the proper usage and ended up picking the worst of the three.
 No disrespect intended.  I assume its a touchy subject that I was not 
 aware existed.
 I forget to check it first. perl -c.  I figure if I keep reading I 
 will find out what pushes yall's buttons.
 Im really interested in the knowledge base of your members.
 Again. No disrespect intended.





"Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> 
Sent by: chicago-talk-bounces+vernon_dainwood=areb.uscourts.gov at pm.org
11/02/2007 08:07 PM
Please respond to
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>


To
"Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
cc

Subject
Re: [Chicago-talk] Hello from the deep south burbs






> Most of our  applications are written in PERL.

Just a word of caution... you might want to drop the cap in ERL around
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From dave at obtiva.com  Tue Nov  6 10:50:26 2007
From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:50:26 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple Photo Processing and Web Display
In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0710311300p65109bf6gbbfa6d5c09810158@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11c8704e0710311300p65109bf6gbbfa6d5c09810158@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0711061050ra20c69dse3db2d246d41ab87@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/07, Dave Hoover <dave at obtiva.com> wrote:
> Topic:  Simple Photo Processing and Web Display with Perl
> Also appearing:  Imager, MIME::Lite,
> Email::MIME::Attachment::Stripper, and Image::ExifTool
> Location:  IIT-Rice Campus, 201 East Loop Rd, Wheaton, IL
> Date/Time: Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM)

Brian Tatnall will be presenting a brief experience report after
Kent's talk in Wheaton next Tuesday.  Brian will present his
experiences with GD, Image::Magick, and Imager and give us some
comparisons on their relative strengths and weaknesses.

Thanks Brian!

Dave Hoover
http://obtiva.com
http://redsquirrel.com/dave

From jason at froebe.net  Tue Nov  6 11:25:19 2007
From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:25:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple Photo Processing and Web Display
Message-ID: <452044.56412.qm@web806.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'll be able to make that one :)
 
Jason L. Froebe 
WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com
Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog
Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com

----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Hoover <dave at obtiva.com>
To: chicago-talk at pm.org; chicago-announce at pm.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:00:02 PM
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple Photo Processing and Web Display


Kent Cowgill has stepped forward to present at the next meeting in
 Wheaton.

Topic:  Simple Photo Processing and Web Display with Perl
Also appearing:  Imager, MIME::Lite,
Email::MIME::Attachment::Stripper, and Image::ExifTool
Location:  IIT-Rice Campus, 201 East Loop Rd, Wheaton, IL
Date/Time: Tuesday, November 13th, 2007 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM)

I will be organizing the Wheaton meetings going forward.

See you there!

Dave Hoover
http://obtiva.com
http://redsquirrel.com/dave
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From laylward at stoneward.com  Tue Nov  6 11:36:40 2007
From: laylward at stoneward.com (Lee Aylward)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:36:40 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Possible Talk Subject...?
In-Reply-To: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
Message-ID: <b1d18ab50711061136o417f3321x4a1d8de122005473@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/07, Kent Cowgill <kent at c2group.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working up a talk, and if there's any interest, I'll be happy to
> finish it up in time for either (or both) of the meetings for November.
>
> The current title is "Simple Photo Processing and Web Display with
> Perl".
>
> I'll touch on a few modules: Imager, MIME::Lite,
> Email::MIME::Attachment::Stripper, and Image::ExifTool.
>
> -Kent Cowgill


Hey there,

I was out of town for the October downtown meeting so I missed this
presentation (if it did in fact take place). Could you put some of the
materials online if they exist? I'm interested in the subject and remember
enjoying your last presentation, so anything would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

-- 
Lee Aylward / Web Dev / STONE WARD
Little Rock / [ Chicago ]
312.464.1443
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From kent at c2group.net  Tue Nov  6 12:06:14 2007
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:06:14 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Possible Talk Subject...?
In-Reply-To: <b1d18ab50711061136o417f3321x4a1d8de122005473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<b1d18ab50711061136o417f3321x4a1d8de122005473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <312FD35F-F2F3-42EA-B4CA-A0662F4E9C17@c2group.net>

Er, which do you want online?  I haven't given the talk below yet :)

As far as the last one, I still have yet to put that one up anywhere,  
but I plan to post here when I do.

-Kent Cowgill

C2 Group, Inc.                                             
kent at c2group.net
http://www.c2group.net                                         
312.804.0160


On Nov 6, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Lee Aylward wrote:

> On 10/31/07, Kent Cowgill <kent at c2group.net> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working up a talk, and if there's any interest, I'll be happy to
> finish it up in time for either (or both) of the meetings for  
> November.
>
> The current title is "Simple Photo Processing and Web Display with
> Perl".
>
> I'll touch on a few modules: Imager, MIME::Lite,
> Email::MIME::Attachment::Stripper, and Image::ExifTool.
>
> -Kent Cowgill
>
> Hey there,
>
> I was out of town for the October downtown meeting so I missed this  
> presentation (if it did in fact take place). Could you put some of  
> the materials online if they exist? I'm interested in the subject  
> and remember enjoying your last presentation, so anything would be  
> much appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
> Lee Aylward / Web Dev / STONE WARD
> Little Rock / [ Chicago ]
> 312.464.1443
> http://www.stoneward.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk


From laylward at stoneward.com  Tue Nov  6 13:38:09 2007
From: laylward at stoneward.com (Lee Aylward)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:38:09 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Possible Talk Subject...?
In-Reply-To: <312FD35F-F2F3-42EA-B4CA-A0662F4E9C17@c2group.net>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<b1d18ab50711061136o417f3321x4a1d8de122005473@mail.gmail.com>
	<312FD35F-F2F3-42EA-B4CA-A0662F4E9C17@c2group.net>
Message-ID: <b1d18ab50711061338j23756250s7dd18ab3c56d5798@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/6/07, Kent Cowgill <kent at c2group.net> wrote:
>
> Er, which do you want online?  I haven't given the talk below yet :)
>
> As far as the last one, I still have yet to put that one up anywhere,
> but I plan to post here when I do.
>
> -Kent Cowgill
>
>
Hmm, I got confused and thought the "Simple Photo Processing and Web Display
with
Perl" talk took place in October. Guess I can still make it to that one,
hurray!

-- 
Lee Aylward / Web Dev / STONE WARD
Little Rock / [ Chicago ]
312.464.1443
http://www.stoneward.com/
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From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  7 19:07:41 2007
From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:07:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fw: [CMI.PM] [Fwd: PER EXPERT NEEDED FOR TRAVEL WEB
	APPLICATION]
Message-ID: <312871.29280.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Daniel Lewart <lewart at uiuc.edu>
To: Champaign-Urbana Perl Mongers <champaign-urbana at pm.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:54:47 PM
Subject: [CMI.PM] [Fwd: PER EXPERT NEEDED FOR  TRAVEL WEB APPLICATION]


-------- Original Message --------
Date:     Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:07:15 -0600
From:     Aldo Caronia <acaronia at romanticatours.com>
To:     <lewart at uiuc.edu>
Subject:     PER EXPERT NEEDED FOR TRAVEL WEB APPLICATION

Ciao!

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I?m currently using a website base on touristway (www.touristway.com
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I?m looking for an expert (possible in the Chicago area) who can help
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From andy at petdance.com  Wed Nov  7 19:19:41 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:19:41 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fw: [CMI.PM] [Fwd: PER EXPERT NEEDED FOR TRAVEL
	WEB APPLICATION]
In-Reply-To: <312871.29280.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <312871.29280.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E79ED836-C534-4BA3-9966-F7679913BB57@petdance.com>

> My name is Aldo Caronia and I own a tour operator specialized in  
> trip to
> Italy and France. I found your website surfing the web for PERL  
> expert.

Rather than posting job ads to the list, please post the ad to  
jobs.perl.org, and post a pointer to the ad on jobs.perl.org.  Even  
better if you buy prime placement on the front of jobs.perl.org and  
help support the Perl Foundation.

Thanks,
xoxo,
Andy


--
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From d_tassone at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  9 06:16:47 2007
From: d_tassone at yahoo.com (Domenic Tassone)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 06:16:47 -0800
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
Message-ID: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>

Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
specific.

Thx,

dt


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 06:31:11 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:31:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711090631x12b6866eve5cbfec8ce33a5c7@mail.gmail.com>

> Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
> suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
> specific.

Well, I'm only partially answering the question, because none of these
are Perl-based and only one is a book, but here are a few suggestions
anyway.

"Learn to Program" - http://www.pragprog.com/titles/fr_ltp - It's Ruby
focused, but it was written with young non-programmers in mind.

Alice - http://www.alice.org/ - I haven't played with it yet, but it's
supposedly a cooler version of my next suggestion...

Logo - There are implementations of this all over the web.  Basically
you animate a turtle, Logo, in his movements across the screen while
in the meantime learning some programming basics.

Good luck

From dave at obtiva.com  Fri Nov  9 07:00:37 2007
From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:00:37 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711090631x12b6866eve5cbfec8ce33a5c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
	<49d805d70711090631x12b6866eve5cbfec8ce33a5c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0711090700p5531436avc83605cab1548253@mail.gmail.com>

> "Learn to Program" - http://www.pragprog.com/titles/fr_ltp - It's Ruby
> focused, but it was written with young non-programmers in mind.

I would recommend this as well.

--Dave

From lembark at wrkhors.com  Fri Nov  9 03:00:32 2007
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:00:32 +0000
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <47343DD0.3050904@wrkhors.com>

Domenic Tassone wrote:
> Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
> suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
> specific.

How much time are you willing to spend with her going back over it?
Learning Perl assumes the reader knows how to program but is actually
a good intro for a non-programmer with someone to help them (at least
it's worked that way for me before). If you'd enjoy the time together
go through Learning Perl.

From jon at jrock.us  Fri Nov  9 09:12:08 2007
From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:12:08 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <1194628329.15662.7.camel@bar.jrock.us>


On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 06:16 -0800, Domenic Tassone wrote:
> Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
> suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
> specific.

How much does she like math?  If she likes it, "The Little Schemer" (by
Friedman and Felleisen; 0262560992) is an excellent introduction to
computer science.  It teaches most of the important concepts (like
recursion) with small one-sentence question/answer sessions.
Recommended.

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway



From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Fri Nov  9 09:42:58 2007
From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:42:58 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711090631x12b6866eve5cbfec8ce33a5c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFC6449206.17F07D37-ON8625738E.0060FD8D-8625738E.00615077@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Just saw a new one, scratch:
http://scratch.mit.edu

Akin to Alice
http://www.alice.org/

a nice intro to programming.  Book-wise, well, the Camel is easily the 
funniest programming book I've ever read - if she's smart she'll get it. 
The harder part'd be getting a nice env to work on stuff and while I don't 
want ot open the vi/emacs wars, something like "komodo" might be a nice 
thing .... then again, it might just scare her off ;->

a

Andy Bach
Systems Mangler
Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov
VOICE: (608) 261-5738  FAX 264-5932

In matters of style, swim with the current; 
in matters of principal, stand like a rock.
Thomas Jefferson

From justin+pm at dicatek.com  Fri Nov  9 13:16:26 2007
From: justin+pm at dicatek.com (justin+pm at dicatek.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:16:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0711091313070.15581@thalia.ugcs.caltech.edu>

Not a *programming* book but an ideas book: I enjoyed _The Armchair 
Universe_ and _The Magic Machine_ by A. K. Dewdney when I was growing up.

See http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/PERSONAL/books_and_articles.html
--------
The Armchair Universe

A collection of lightly edited columns from Scientific American, including 
the Mandelbrot Set, wallpaper for the mind, analog computers, hypercubes, 
the conversational program Racter, a checkers-playing program, three 
dimensional Life, the sharks and fish of Wa-Tor, core War, and many 
others. Readers with a modicum of programming skill can bring most of 
these recreations to life.
--------

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Domenic Tassone wrote:

> Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
> suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
> specific.
>
> Thx,
>
> dt
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 14:24:26 2007
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:24:26 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <2715accf0711091424w44ea87aag724b4878350832a2@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/9/07, Domenic Tassone <d_tassone at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greetings from Palo Alto...wondering if anyone has any good books
> suggestions for a teenage daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl
> specific.

If she hasn't done any programming, I recommend "Squeak: Learn
Programming with Robots" (http://www.apress.com/book/view/1590594916).
It's Smalltalk and comes with a complete environment ready to go.
Through the use of robot characters to which you can send messages to
control them, he teaches the basics of statements, loops, and then
programs. There's immediate satisfaction seeing the robot do
something, even from the first exercise.

If you really must have Perl, you might look at Andrew Johnson's
"Elements of Programming with Perl".

-- 
brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

From chicago.pm at galumph.com  Sat Nov 10 00:52:48 2007
From: chicago.pm at galumph.com (Elliot Shank)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:52:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>
Message-ID: <47357160.70805@galumph.com>

Domenic Tassone wrote:
> wondering if anyone has any good books suggestions for a teenage
> daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl specific.

It's Ruby, but who can beat chunky bacon?  http://poignantguide.net/

From d_tassone at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 11 06:39:19 2007
From: d_tassone at yahoo.com (Domenic Tassone)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:39:19 -0800
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1194724813.11025.chicago-talk@pm.org>
References: <mailman.11.1194724813.11025.chicago-talk@pm.org>
Message-ID: <002601c82470$b5cb5d40$7301a8c0@Sabina>

Thanks everyone for the help! 

Actually, Brian's "Squeak: Learn Programming with Robots" is particularly
interesting as she joined the robotics club at her high school out here.


Domenico


From jon at jrock.us  Mon Nov 12 07:21:42 2007
From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:21:42 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Books for Teen Daughter
In-Reply-To: <47357160.70805@galumph.com>
References: <mailman.19.1194552014.27111.chicago-talk@pm.org>
	<014c01c822db$2a0ac430$7301a8c0@Sabina>  <47357160.70805@galumph.com>
Message-ID: <1194880902.5595.2.camel@bar.jrock.us>


* On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 02:52 -0600, Elliot Shank wrote:
> Domenic Tassone wrote:
> > wondering if anyone has any good books suggestions for a teenage
> > daughter interested in programming - ideally Perl specific.
> 
> It's Ruby, but who can beat chunky bacon?  http://poignantguide.net/

This book is low on beginner's programming content and high on too many
words that say nothing, hype, and not having any actual content.  Buyer
beware ;)


From mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 12 07:42:29 2007
From: mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com (Mike Ferrari)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:42:29 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl, Layout and SVG
Message-ID: <40d606460711120742j28da49c8s312123fdefb3e93b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I was wondering, i am creating a small script to parse some network switch
config files and generate an SVG diagram .. visual representation  ... of
the switch port config.. so far i have a nice square with a bunch of little
squares inside of it.

I am running into a mess with the layout. Its getting very complex, i've had
to resort to creating a grid style system where everything is anchored to a
spot on the grid about 10 pixels apart.. keeping track of what goes where is
getting to be a pain..

Is there any module or tool out there that can handle the layout for me?
something like Graphviz? I had considered using Graphviz but i couldnt get
the output to look like i wanted so i opted just to create straight svg
files.

Am i gonna have to just bite the bullet and make do with what i can for now?

Thanks for any ideas you may have..

Mike Ferrari


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From dave at obtiva.com  Mon Nov 12 08:03:50 2007
From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:03:50 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl, Layout and SVG
In-Reply-To: <40d606460711120742j28da49c8s312123fdefb3e93b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d606460711120742j28da49c8s312123fdefb3e93b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0711120803u3b9973c5o4d54bb4ef69a5b94@mail.gmail.com>

> Is there any module or tool out there that can handle the layout for me?
> something like Graphviz? I had considered using Graphviz but i couldnt get
> the output to look like i wanted so i opted just to create straight svg
> files.

You may already be aware of this, but you can have Graphviz output SVG.

From davidy at nationalcycle.com  Mon Nov 12 09:55:42 2007
From: davidy at nationalcycle.com (David Young)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:55:42 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How would you do this?
Message-ID: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>

Hi,

I'm on another mailing list of colleagues, and this question came up.  What
would you all recommend?

Ydy


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:32 AM
To: techies at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: How would you do this?

More and more, I'm finding the need to do some page-scraping of web pages
that are Web 2.0-ey.

My normal scraping tool is perl's WWW::Mechanize and such.  But it is 
completely javascript brain-dead.

For example...I'd like to write something that goes to YouTube, looks up
a set of videos, analyzes the comments and ratings, and presents a 
summary report.  That's just an example of something that is conceptually
simple (easily done manually) but can't be done with WWW::Mechanize.

So if you wanted to do something like that, what would you use?

I'm not adverse to using something other than perl...something Windows-based
would be my last resort.  I'd consider a commercial product, though 
preferably not a multi-hundred-dollar one...

Obviously, something that submits as well as scrapes would be ideal.






From btatnall at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 10:12:47 2007
From: btatnall at gmail.com (Brian Tatnall)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:12:47 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How would you do this?
In-Reply-To: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
References: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
Message-ID: <321853e90711121012w7815694fo9ea02e6d660c6c42@mail.gmail.com>

Take a look at Selenium.  I haven't used it for scraping, but Bj?rn
M?rtensson has used it for scraping dynamically built javascript pages.


http://www.openqa.org/selenium-ide/
http://www.jroller.com/bjornmartensson/entry/web_scraping_in_early_2007

All the best,
Brian Tatnall

On 11/12/07, David Young <davidy at nationalcycle.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm on another mailing list of colleagues, and this question came
> up.  What
> would you all recommend?
>
> Ydy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: techies at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: How would you do this?
>
> More and more, I'm finding the need to do some page-scraping of web pages
> that are Web 2.0-ey.
>
> My normal scraping tool is perl's WWW::Mechanize and such.  But it is
> completely javascript brain-dead.
>
> For example...I'd like to write something that goes to YouTube, looks up
> a set of videos, analyzes the comments and ratings, and presents a
> summary report.  That's just an example of something that is conceptually
> simple (easily done manually) but can't be done with WWW::Mechanize.
>
> So if you wanted to do something like that, what would you use?
>
> I'm not adverse to using something other than perl...something
> Windows-based
> would be my last resort.  I'd consider a commercial product, though
> preferably not a multi-hundred-dollar one...
>
> Obviously, something that submits as well as scrapes would be ideal.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
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From dave at obtiva.com  Mon Nov 12 10:23:37 2007
From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:23:37 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How would you do this?
In-Reply-To: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
References: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0711121023v5a92f517ocd0bc1502ca7b94c@mail.gmail.com>

The first thing that pops into my mind is Watir, a functional testing
tool for driving Internet Explorer.  There are also Firefox and Safari
variants in the works.

Here are some examples...
  https://svn.openqa.org/svn/watir/trunk/watir/examples/

--Dave

On 11/12/07, David Young <davidy at nationalcycle.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm on another mailing list of colleagues, and this question came up.  What
> would you all recommend?
>
> Ydy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: techies at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: How would you do this?
>
> More and more, I'm finding the need to do some page-scraping of web pages
> that are Web 2.0-ey.
>
> My normal scraping tool is perl's WWW::Mechanize and such.  But it is
> completely javascript brain-dead.
>
> For example...I'd like to write something that goes to YouTube, looks up
> a set of videos, analyzes the comments and ratings, and presents a
> summary report.  That's just an example of something that is conceptually
> simple (easily done manually) but can't be done with WWW::Mechanize.
>
> So if you wanted to do something like that, what would you use?
>
> I'm not adverse to using something other than perl...something Windows-based
> would be my last resort.  I'd consider a commercial product, though
> preferably not a multi-hundred-dollar one...
>
> Obviously, something that submits as well as scrapes would be ideal.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From laylward at stoneward.com  Mon Nov 12 10:39:19 2007
From: laylward at stoneward.com (Lee Aylward)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:39:19 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How would you do this?
In-Reply-To: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
References: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
Message-ID: <b1d18ab50711121039p15cb03e0j8c563735711cf82e@mail.gmail.com>

If you wanted to stick to perl, you may be able to pull this off with
Mozilla::Mechanize. I have never used it, but from the description it sounds
like it will run any javascript.

http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/Mozilla-Mechanize/Mozilla/Mechanize.html

-- 
Lee

On Nov 12, 2007 11:55 AM, David Young <davidy at nationalcycle.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm on another mailing list of colleagues, and this question came up.
>  What
> would you all recommend?
>
> Ydy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: techies at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: How would you do this?
>
> More and more, I'm finding the need to do some page-scraping of web pages
> that are Web 2.0-ey.
>
> My normal scraping tool is perl's WWW::Mechanize and such.  But it is
> completely javascript brain-dead.
>
> For example...I'd like to write something that goes to YouTube, looks up
> a set of videos, analyzes the comments and ratings, and presents a
> summary report.  That's just an example of something that is conceptually
> simple (easily done manually) but can't be done with WWW::Mechanize.
>
> So if you wanted to do something like that, what would you use?
>
> I'm not adverse to using something other than perl...something
> Windows-based
> would be my last resort.  I'd consider a commercial product, though
> preferably not a multi-hundred-dollar one...
>
> Obviously, something that submits as well as scrapes would be ideal.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
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From warren.lindsey at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 10:44:44 2007
From: warren.lindsey at gmail.com (Warren Lindsey)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:44:44 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How would you do this?
In-Reply-To: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
References: <s7383f64.012@email.nationalcycle.com>
Message-ID: <841e880a0711121044m3cf16fe7mad9fdf5e2124e4cb@mail.gmail.com>

Half of Web2.0 is flashy websites, the other half is making an API
available.  Many sites push out data in JSON format to their apps and
the public.  Some have published an API to allow you to work with the
site data, while others have been reverse-engineered.

YouTube has an API that you can connect to and retrieve the info you
want.  Much better than hacking functionality into WWW::Mechanize.
The first page of google results for "youtube json feed" will give you
what you want to know in the "YouTube Data API: Developer's Guide: The
Protocol"

But why bother, because somebody has already written a module to do
the grunt work for you.

http://search.cpan.org/~yoshida/WebService-YouTube-1.0.2/lib/WebService/YouTube.pm

Cheers,
Warren

On Nov 12, 2007 11:55 AM, David Young <davidy at nationalcycle.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm on another mailing list of colleagues, and this question came up.  What
> would you all recommend?
>
> Ydy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: techies at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: How would you do this?
>
> More and more, I'm finding the need to do some page-scraping of web pages
> that are Web 2.0-ey.
>
> My normal scraping tool is perl's WWW::Mechanize and such.  But it is
> completely javascript brain-dead.
>
> For example...I'd like to write something that goes to YouTube, looks up
> a set of videos, analyzes the comments and ratings, and presents a
> summary report.  That's just an example of something that is conceptually
> simple (easily done manually) but can't be done with WWW::Mechanize.
>
> So if you wanted to do something like that, what would you use?
>
> I'm not adverse to using something other than perl...something Windows-based
> would be my last resort.  I'd consider a commercial product, though
> preferably not a multi-hundred-dollar one...
>
> Obviously, something that submits as well as scrapes would be ideal.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 12 12:23:16 2007
From: mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com (Mike Ferrari)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:23:16 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl, Layout and SVG
In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0711120803u3b9973c5o4d54bb4ef69a5b94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d606460711120742j28da49c8s312123fdefb3e93b@mail.gmail.com>
	<11c8704e0711120803u3b9973c5o4d54bb4ef69a5b94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40d606460711121223y7491da54occ91f04af8ef415f@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah i was planning on using it but i couldn't get the squares and stuff to
look the right way and then with color and text by each one.. laying them
out in the right direction and all that.. the amount of info i want to show
was a little too complex for the graphviz tool.

I do like it a ton.. its really awesome.... and there are some sweet modules
for it too.

Thanks
Mike


On 11/12/07, Dave Hoover <dave at obtiva.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there any module or tool out there that can handle the layout for me?
> > something like Graphviz? I had considered using Graphviz but i couldnt
> get
> > the output to look like i wanted so i opted just to create straight svg
> > files.
>
> You may already be aware of this, but you can have Graphviz output SVG.
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>



-- 
/dev/mike0

http://www.mikeferrari.com
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From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:04:49 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Give One Get One starts today!
References: <OneLaptopperChild.64nrtt8cz.d3sg@mail.laptopgiving.org>
Message-ID: <1F2312FD-8392-42F5-A727-C2D117E144D4@gmail.com>



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From harper.sean at gmail.com  Tue Nov 13 15:07:48 2007
From: harper.sean at gmail.com (Sean Harper)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:07:48 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ignite Chicago - call for speakers
Message-ID: <11ad307a0711131507y5de0912fsd8c12e6e1d5c39c@mail.gmail.com>

If you had five minutes on stage what would you say? What if you only
got 20 slides and they rotated automatically after 15 seconds?

A few members of the community have gotten together to organize an
Ignite event here in Chicago at Goose Island Wrigleyville 6pm on
Thursday 12/6/2007.  There have been several Ignite conferences
already on the East and West coasts, but if our initial speaker list
is any indication, ours in Chicago will be the best yet.

If you aren't interested in speaking, you should still come, it will
be fun and interesting.

For more information check out these three sites:

RSVP / map / address :   http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/309951  (the
event is free and there are sponsored drinks)
More information about Ignite Chicago:  http://ignite-chicago.org/
More information about Ignite in general: http://ignite.oreilly.com/


Sorry for the spam, but hopefully this is relevant enough to the list
that nobody will get upset.  This really will be a fun event.  Also,
there is a bit of a Ruby and PHP bias to the speaking list, Perl
mongers have to step up and represent.

Sean

From dave at obtiva.com  Wed Nov 14 20:54:32 2007
From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:54:32 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple Photo Processing and Web Display
In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0711061050ra20c69dse3db2d246d41ab87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11c8704e0710311300p65109bf6gbbfa6d5c09810158@mail.gmail.com>
	<11c8704e0711061050ra20c69dse3db2d246d41ab87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0711142054y24081cd4xa15d4304e49a9ebc@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to Kent Cowgill and Brian Tatnall for sharing their
adventures and experiences with photo processing in Perl at IIT in
Wheaton last night.  Kent's slides were excellent!  Both talks
provided a ton of insights that will be useful the next time any of us
need to process photos, render graphs, or upload portrait photos of
your cat from your phone to your web server and then use exif data to
automatically reorient them.

If anyone has a talk they would like to give/hear in Wheaton in
January, let me know.

Best,

Dave Hoover
http://obtiva.com
http://redsquirrel.com/dave

From andy at petdance.com  Tue Nov 20 20:58:05 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:58:05 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] UniForum: sudo & TiddlyWiki
Message-ID: <B8CFC6BE-4B68-4586-970D-C58069BCAAB4@petdance.com>

(Forwarded from the Uniforum announcement list)


Folks - This is an encore presentation of two previous talks,
one on sudo, and the other on TiddlyWiki.

Note: Our annual pizza party will be on Tuesday December 11th
this year.  Mark the date on your calendar.  Further information
will be provided in December.

If you don't want to receive these announcements via e-mail please
send me a note at wsmith at etc.com.

-Randy
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     Sudo - Secure and Convenient
                               - plus -
                              TiddlyWiki

                             Mike Potter
                            David J. Young

                Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 7:00-9:00pm
Illinois Institute of Technology, Rice Campus, Wheaton, IL, Room 103

Abstract
--------
This meeting will have two distinct presentations.  The first part will
be on the "sudo" administration tool by Mike Potter, and the second part
will be on TiddlyWiki by David Young.

Sudo is a security tool that comes pre-installed on many *NIX systems,
including Mac OS X, and most distributions of Linux.  sudo allows for
fine grained control of privileges as an alternative to setuid  
programs &
scripts, turning on read & write privileges on sensitive files, sharing
passwords, and (gasp) giving out the root password.

The sudo presentation will begin with a quick demo for those of you who
are unfamiliar with sudo, continue with an overview of the syntax of the
configuration file, and end with a series of problems and solutions that
will help you configure sudo to be secure and convenient.

In the second half of the presentation, David Young will give us a
close look at TiddlyWiki; "a reusable non-linear personal web notebook".
Jeremy Ruston created TiddlyWiki, and in the process has created a new
WritingStyle that exploits the use of MicroContent.  With an active
user community and powerful features, TiddlyWiki and it's adaptations
are quickly becoming a popular WikiWikiWeb.

Come see the power of this "GuerillaWiki" by seeing some examples of
TiddlyWiki pages. You just may become a convert.

Speaker Bios
-----------
Michael has been working IT industry since 1989 when he switched from
automotive embedded systems.

Since that time he has been involved in projects related to moving
mainframe applications to UNIX and Linux using opensource technologies.
Projects have included a CICS emulator written in C, a source code
control and configuration system built on top of cvs, a DFSORT like set
of utilities that work similar to sed/grep/sort tools on unix, and a
JCL to bash conversion scheme.  You can reach Mike at pottmi at gmail.com.

David J. Young has over 21 years experience as a programmer, systems,  
network
and database administrator. He is currently the IT Director at  
National Cycle,
a world leader in motorcycle windshield and accessories manufacturing.  
It is
his ideal job. It combines computers and motorcycling; two of his life- 
long
passions. When he's not on a computer, he's exploring an European or  
US twisty
backroad on a sport bike, or aggressively slicing through the trees on  
his dirt
bike.

Getting There
-------------
The next meeting of UniForum Chicago will be from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm
on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at the Illinois Institute of Technology
Rice campus.  The address of the meeting facility is:

         IIT's Rice Campus
         Room 103
         201 East Loop Road,
         Wheaton, Illinois 60187

Take I-88 to the Naperville Road exit.  Go North on Naperville Road
to Butterfield/Rt. 56.  Turn right on Butterfield and proceed East to
the next stoplight East (East Loop Road).  Turn north onto East Loop
Road (Big Bowl/Cozymel's Restaurants and Phillip's 66 Gas Station on
the corners); the campus will be on your right about a block north of
Butterfield Road.  Park in the student parking lot behind the building.
Room 103 is the first room inside the north entrance.  More detailed
directions and maps are available at:

         http://www.rice.iit.edu/directions.html
         http://www.rice.iit.edu/floorplan.html

All UniForum Chicago general meetings are open to the public free of  
charge.

For additional information contact Scott Nemec at (630) 990-6265 or
president at uniforum.chi.il.us, or visit the UniForum Chicago web site at:
	http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/


From kent at c2group.net  Tue Nov 20 23:05:28 2007
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:05:28 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Possible Talk Subject...?
In-Reply-To: <4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
Message-ID: <6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>


On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:

> Kent Cowgill wrote:
>>
>> I'm working up a talk, and if there's any interest, I'll be happy to
>> finish it up in time for either (or both) of the meetings for  
>> November.
>>
> Sounds cool; I'm looking forward to hearing this.
>
> I said last time I would do my "Test More" talk, and the offer still
> stands.  It's only about 15 minutes, so maybe we can do both of these
> talks next time?


So, I was a little confused on this, and I think any decisions that  
were made might've gotten lost in the shuffle.

Am I giving my Simple Photo Processing talk on Tuesday, Nov 27 @ PFX  
downtown?

Or is everyone planning on pitching in a couple of dollars and  
watching the IT crowd?


-Kent Cowgill

C2 Group, Inc.                                             
kent at c2group.net
http://www.c2group.net                                         
312.804.0160


From andy at petdance.com  Thu Nov 22 11:03:57 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:03:57 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl gratitude, 2007
Message-ID: <B9DC337A-FB5A-4D75-9CB6-7FA56EC03B3B@petdance.com>

 From http://perlbuzz.com/2007/11/perl-gratitude-2007.html

    Here in the US, it's Thanksgiving, a day of eating lots of food,
    watching football, and sometimes, just sometimes, expressing  
gratitude
    and giving thanks for those things that make life wonderful.

    Here are the things I'm grateful for in late 2007, in no particular
    order after the first.

Google Code

    [5]Google's project hosting service has been a godsend. It's changed
    the way I do open source projects. It has leapfrogged SourceForge  
for
    ease of maintenance, and the bug tracker trumps [6]RT for CPAN that
    we've been using for so long. Add that to the integration with  
Google
    Groups which makes it trivial to create mailing lists, and it's at  
the
    tops of my list for 2007. I can't say enough good about it.

The readers of Perlbuzz

    Eleven weeks ago, Skud and I started this little website called
    [7]Perlbuzz as an alternative to the "more traditional outlets" for
    news in the Perl world. The response has been tremendous. We get 600
    RSS readers every day, and have had over 10,000 unique visitors in  
that
    time. It makes me happy that our little venture is used and  
appreciated
    by the community.

Test::Harness 3.0

    It's been over a year in the making, but the new version of [8]the
    crucial Test::Harness 3.0 means more flexibility for module authors,
    and lots of UI improvements for people who just want to run prove  
and
    make test.

Mark Dominus

    MJD is so much a fixture in Perl it's easy to forget that he's  
there.
    For 2007, though, never mind all the things he's done for Perl in  
the
    past, or the hours I've spent being enthralled in talks of his. His
    [9]Universe Of Discourse blog is the single most intelligent blog  
out
    there, and sometimes it just happens to be about Perl.

Andy Armstrong

    Was Andy Armstrong always around, or did I just not notice? His time
    and dedication spent on climbing on board with Ovid and Schwern  
and the
    rest of the Test::Harness 3.0 crew has been invaluable in getting it
    out. Plus, he's a really swell guy anyway.

Dave Hoover

    When I finally despaired of the amount of time and frustration it  
took
    to organize content for [10]Chicago.pm's Wheaton meetings, Dave  
Hoover
    stepped up and volunteered to take it over. I'm thankful, but not as
    much as I hope the other Chicago.pm folks are.

Perl::Critic

    I'm all about having the machine keep an eye out for the stupid  
things
    we do, and the goodness of [11]Perl::Critic is always impressive.  
You
    won't like everything Perl::Critic says about your code, but  
that's OK.
    It's an entire framework for enforcing good Perl coding practices.

The Perl Community in general

    The Perl community is populated by some tremendous folks. Some names
    are more known than others, but these people help make daily Perl  
life
    better for me. In no particular order, I want to single out Pete
    Krawczyk, Kent Cowgill, Elliot Shank, Liz Cortell, Jason Crome,  
Yaakov
    Sloman, Michael Schwern, Andy Armstrong, Ricardo Signes, Julian  
Cash,
    Jim Thomason, chromatic, Chris Dolan, Adam Kennedy, Josh McAdams  
and of
    course Kirrily Robert. If you think you should be on this list,  
you're
    probably right, and I just forgot.

My wife, Amy Lester

    Because even if she doesn't understand this part of my life, she at
    least understands its importance to me.
      __________________________________________________________________

    I'd love to hear back from any readers about what they're thankful  
for.
    I'm thinking about having a regular Perlbuzz "Love Letters to Perl"
    column where people write about what they love in Perl.

    5. http://code.google.com/hosting/
    6. http://rt.cpan.org/
    7. http://perlbuzz.com/
    8. http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Harness/
    9. http://blog.plover.com/
   10. http://chicago.pm.org/
   11. http://perlcritic.tigris.org/

xoxo,
Andy


From jeremy at marzhillstudios.com  Thu Nov 22 15:18:09 2007
From: jeremy at marzhillstudios.com (Jeremy Wall)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:18:09 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl gratitude, 2007
In-Reply-To: <B9DC337A-FB5A-4D75-9CB6-7FA56EC03B3B@petdance.com>
References: <B9DC337A-FB5A-4D75-9CB6-7FA56EC03B3B@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <69d143cd0711221518w1e028fb1nf81eee59169bf83a@mail.gmail.com>

Things in Perl I'm thankful for,

Moose: finally an Object Oriented framework I don't mind using.

Catalyst: An web development framework that doesn't annoy me.

Chicago.pm: Finally get to meet some other perl folks  I'm no longer an
island :-)


On 11/22/07, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:
>
> From http://perlbuzz.com/2007/11/perl-gratitude-2007.html
>
>     Here in the US, it's Thanksgiving, a day of eating lots of food,
>     watching football, and sometimes, just sometimes, expressing
> gratitude
>     and giving thanks for those things that make life wonderful.
>
>     Here are the things I'm grateful for in late 2007, in no particular
>     order after the first.
>
> Google Code
>
>     [5]Google's project hosting service has been a godsend. It's changed
>     the way I do open source projects. It has leapfrogged SourceForge
> for
>     ease of maintenance, and the bug tracker trumps [6]RT for CPAN that
>     we've been using for so long. Add that to the integration with
> Google
>     Groups which makes it trivial to create mailing lists, and it's at
> the
>     tops of my list for 2007. I can't say enough good about it.
>
> The readers of Perlbuzz
>
>     Eleven weeks ago, Skud and I started this little website called
>     [7]Perlbuzz as an alternative to the "more traditional outlets" for
>     news in the Perl world. The response has been tremendous. We get 600
>     RSS readers every day, and have had over 10,000 unique visitors in
> that
>     time. It makes me happy that our little venture is used and
> appreciated
>     by the community.
>
> Test::Harness 3.0
>
>     It's been over a year in the making, but the new version of [8]the
>     crucial Test::Harness 3.0 means more flexibility for module authors,
>     and lots of UI improvements for people who just want to run prove
> and
>     make test.
>
> Mark Dominus
>
>     MJD is so much a fixture in Perl it's easy to forget that he's
> there.
>     For 2007, though, never mind all the things he's done for Perl in
> the
>     past, or the hours I've spent being enthralled in talks of his. His
>     [9]Universe Of Discourse blog is the single most intelligent blog
> out
>     there, and sometimes it just happens to be about Perl.
>
> Andy Armstrong
>
>     Was Andy Armstrong always around, or did I just not notice? His time
>     and dedication spent on climbing on board with Ovid and Schwern
> and the
>     rest of the Test::Harness 3.0 crew has been invaluable in getting it
>     out. Plus, he's a really swell guy anyway.
>
> Dave Hoover
>
>     When I finally despaired of the amount of time and frustration it
> took
>     to organize content for [10]Chicago.pm's Wheaton meetings, Dave
> Hoover
>     stepped up and volunteered to take it over. I'm thankful, but not as
>     much as I hope the other Chicago.pm folks are.
>
> Perl::Critic
>
>     I'm all about having the machine keep an eye out for the stupid
> things
>     we do, and the goodness of [11]Perl::Critic is always impressive.
> You
>     won't like everything Perl::Critic says about your code, but
> that's OK.
>     It's an entire framework for enforcing good Perl coding practices.
>
> The Perl Community in general
>
>     The Perl community is populated by some tremendous folks. Some names
>     are more known than others, but these people help make daily Perl
> life
>     better for me. In no particular order, I want to single out Pete
>     Krawczyk, Kent Cowgill, Elliot Shank, Liz Cortell, Jason Crome,
> Yaakov
>     Sloman, Michael Schwern, Andy Armstrong, Ricardo Signes, Julian
> Cash,
>     Jim Thomason, chromatic, Chris Dolan, Adam Kennedy, Josh McAdams
> and of
>     course Kirrily Robert. If you think you should be on this list,
> you're
>     probably right, and I just forgot.
>
> My wife, Amy Lester
>
>     Because even if she doesn't understand this part of my life, she at
>     least understands its importance to me.
>       __________________________________________________________________
>
>     I'd love to hear back from any readers about what they're thankful
> for.
>     I'm thinking about having a regular Perlbuzz "Love Letters to Perl"
>     column where people write about what they love in Perl.
>
>     5. http://code.google.com/hosting/
>     6. http://rt.cpan.org/
>     7. http://perlbuzz.com/
>     8. http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Harness/
>     9. http://blog.plover.com/
>    10. http://chicago.pm.org/
>    11. http://perlcritic.tigris.org/
>
> xoxo,
> Andy
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>



-- 
Jeremy Wall
http://jeremy.marzhillstudios.com
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 11:28:17 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:28:17 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Advent Help
Message-ID: <B0D4BA5A-D65A-4172-B497-E8FCC2FE41ED@gmail.com>

Hello Chicago.pm,
   I've been talking with the organizer of perladvent.org, Jerrad  
Pierce, and he is too busy to write any entries until mid-December.   
In order to help him out, we need to get some more community  
involvement in writing advent entries for at least the first 14 days  
of December.  The entries are typically pretty short, so they don't  
require too much time.  Of course, they need to be well written and  
it's always nice if there is a holiday slant to the story.  You can  
see examples at perladvent.org.  If you interested, there is a huge  
list of topic ideas that I can point you to.... just let me know.
   And finally, if just being an active member of the Perl community  
isn't enough incentive, last year O'Reilly was kind enough to give  
each of the advent authors a free book of the author's choice.  I  
haven't heard anything about that happening again this year, but it's  
always a possibility.
   If you all want, we can have an advent writing evening at my  
place.  I'll provide egg-nog and a few snacks if you can bring a  
computer and the will to write an entry.  We'd have to do it early  
this week in order to give Jerrad time to get the entries edited and  
posted for December 1st.
   Anyone interested?

From jon at jrock.us  Mon Nov 26 09:17:39 2007
From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:17:39 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
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On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 01:05 -0600, Kent Cowgill wrote:
> Or is everyone planning on pitching in a couple of dollars and  
> watching the IT crowd?

OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting instead of
a technical meeting.  This will consist of watching The IT Crowd and
then going out to Monks afterward.  We will save Kent's and my talks for
another time :)

The meeting will start at 7 on the 12th floor of Performics, the usual
place.  (Can someone at pfx generate an attendance list?)

Hopefully this is OK with everyone.  I will bring The IT Crowd and the
necessary cables.

Regards,
Jonathan Rockway

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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 13:56:38 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:56:38 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
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Is anyone coming tomorrow night?  I know that Pete and Nola are out.
I'm iffy.  It's concerning me that there might not be anyone from
Performics that is going to be there to let people in.

So, two questions...

1) Who is planning on attending?
2) Who from PFX is planning on hosting?

On Nov 26, 2007 3:17 PM, Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> I will be unable to attend tomorrow night :( .... I have some projects
> I need to get finished .....
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 1:31 PM, brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/26/07, Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting instead of
> > > a technical meeting.
> >
> > I'm bringing a big bag of books to give-away too. If you've taken a
> > book in the past, find a book you don't want anymore to throw into the
> > pile.
> >
> > Nola also talked about ordering some food, and I think she already has
> > some plans on something besides pizza (apparently Performics does
> > pizza a lot!). Come hungry :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
> > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
> > _______________________________________________
> > WindyCity-pm mailing list
> > WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
> http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
>
> _______________________________________________
> WindyCity-pm mailing list
> WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
>

From a.wong2.nu at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 14:13:30 2007
From: a.wong2.nu at gmail.com (Tony Wong)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:13:30 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
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I'd like to be there but I have prior commitments this time around.
The IT Crowd... sounds like a good time.

I do have some books that I'd like to put in the pile though and I did
take a book last time which I can put back. Is there going to be
pile/swapping during the hack-a-thon in December?

Tony

On Nov 26, 2007 3:56 PM, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone coming tomorrow night?  I know that Pete and Nola are out.
> I'm iffy.  It's concerning me that there might not be anyone from
> Performics that is going to be there to let people in.
>
> So, two questions...
>
> 1) Who is planning on attending?
> 2) Who from PFX is planning on hosting?
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:17 PM, Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I will be unable to attend tomorrow night :( .... I have some projects
> > I need to get finished .....
> >
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 1:31 PM, brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/26/07, Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting instead of
> > > > a technical meeting.
> > >
> > > I'm bringing a big bag of books to give-away too. If you've taken a
> > > book in the past, find a book you don't want anymore to throw into the
> > > pile.
> > >
> > > Nola also talked about ordering some food, and I think she already has
> > > some plans on something besides pizza (apparently Performics does
> > > pizza a lot!). Come hungry :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
> > > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > WindyCity-pm mailing list
> > > WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
> > http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > WindyCity-pm mailing list
> > WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 14:38:48 2007
From: fasteliteprogrammer at yahoo.com (Craig Petty)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:38:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <334a3ab20711261413w3629f88av35da34018613a3f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <244333.61124.qm@web36512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there a hack-a-thon in june next year?









--- Tony Wong <a.wong2.nu at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to be there but I have prior commitments
> this time around.
> The IT Crowd... sounds like a good time.
> 
> I do have some books that I'd like to put in the
> pile though and I did
> take a book last time which I can put back. Is there
> going to be
> pile/swapping during the hack-a-thon in December?
> 
> Tony
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:56 PM, Joshua McAdams
> <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is anyone coming tomorrow night?  I know that Pete
> and Nola are out.
> > I'm iffy.  It's concerning me that there might not
> be anyone from
> > Performics that is going to be there to let people
> in.
> >
> > So, two questions...
> >
> > 1) Who is planning on attending?
> > 2) Who from PFX is planning on hosting?
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 3:17 PM, Nola Stowe
> <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I will be unable to attend tomorrow night :(
> .... I have some projects
> > > I need to get finished .....
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2007 1:31 PM, brian d foy
> <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 11/26/07, Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do
> a social meeting instead of
> > > > > a technical meeting.
> > > >
> > > > I'm bringing a big bag of books to give-away
> too. If you've taken a
> > > > book in the past, find a book you don't want
> anymore to throw into the
> > > > pile.
> > > >
> > > > Nola also talked about ordering some food, and
> I think she already has
> > > > some plans on something besides pizza
> (apparently Performics does
> > > > pizza a lot!). Come hungry :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
> > > > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
> > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > > WindyCity-pm mailing list
> > > > WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> > > >
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby,
> PHP and Perl
> > > http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > WindyCity-pm mailing list
> > > WindyCity-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago-talk mailing list
> > Chicago-talk at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> 



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From frag at ripco.com  Mon Nov 26 14:52:24 2007
From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:52:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
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I can't make it.

-- Mike F.


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 15:18:59 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:18:59 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
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> I do have some books that I'd like to put in the pile though and I did
> take a book last time which I can put back. Is there going to be
> pile/swapping during the hack-a-thon in December?

We probably need to adjust the date since the 4th Tuesday is Christmas
day.  Anyone up for a PM meeting on the 18th of December?

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 15:20:34 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:34 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
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	<43e95380711261317r294bb6f4g4d140c381b230e6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
	<ADABF15E-0116-1000-EADA-25DD367FC36D-Webmail-10021@mac.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711261520x401069adpbcd8c45591983841@mail.gmail.com>

> I am planning to, but if the hosts aren't available  I could see postponing.

So that's Craig, Jonathan, and brian.  Anyone else?

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 15:17:50 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:17:50 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <244333.61124.qm@web36512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <334a3ab20711261413w3629f88av35da34018613a3f1@mail.gmail.com>
	<244333.61124.qm@web36512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711261517p7d38bd67kc0b31709f1156b3e@mail.gmail.com>

> Is there a hack-a-thon in june next year?

Yes, there will be a hack-a-thon after YAPC... possibly one before too.

From tom at yarrish.com  Mon Nov 26 15:47:47 2007
From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:47:47 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
	<2715accf0711261131g137862b5o7bb78635f8460e47@mail.gmail.com>
	<43e95380711261317r294bb6f4g4d140c381b230e6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C0675B5-0CA2-4A83-BDF4-158B0B332B7B@yarrish.com>

I won't be able to attend. My wife has a DWTS thing she's going to.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2007, at 3:56 PM, "Joshua McAdams"  
<joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone coming tomorrow night?  I know that Pete and Nola are out.
> I'm iffy.  It's concerning me that there might not be anyone from
> Performics that is going to be there to let people in.
>
> So, two questions...
>
> 1) Who is planning on attending?
> 2) Who from PFX is planning on hosting?
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:17 PM, Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I will be unable to attend tomorrow night :( .... I have some  
>> projects
>> I need to get finished .....
>>
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2007 1:31 PM, brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/26/07, Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting  
>>>> instead of
>>>> a technical meeting.
>>>
>>> I'm bringing a big bag of books to give-away too. If you've taken a
>>> book in the past, find a book you don't want anymore to throw into  
>>> the
>>> pile.
>>>
>>> Nola also talked about ordering some food, and I think she already  
>>> has
>>> some plans on something besides pizza (apparently Performics does
>>> pizza a lot!). Come hungry :)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
>>> http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> WindyCity-pm mailing list
>>> WindyCity-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
>> http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> WindyCity-pm mailing list
>> WindyCity-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm
>>
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From e.ellington at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 15:53:54 2007
From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:53:54 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711261520x401069adpbcd8c45591983841@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
	<2715accf0711261131g137862b5o7bb78635f8460e47@mail.gmail.com>
	<43e95380711261317r294bb6f4g4d140c381b230e6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
	<ADABF15E-0116-1000-EADA-25DD367FC36D-Webmail-10021@mac.com>
	<49d805d70711261520x401069adpbcd8c45591983841@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf13ea7e0711261553n1161980dx558b6e8ae1ad2d5d@mail.gmail.com>

I am free and will show up for sure if TV and food is going on.

Eric Ellington


On 11/26/07, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am planning to, but if the hosts aren't available  I could see
> postponing.
>
> So that's Craig, Jonathan, and brian.  Anyone else?
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>


-- 
Eric Ellington
e.ellington at gmail.com

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 18:55:41 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:55:41 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <cf13ea7e0711261553n1161980dx558b6e8ae1ad2d5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
	<2715accf0711261131g137862b5o7bb78635f8460e47@mail.gmail.com>
	<43e95380711261317r294bb6f4g4d140c381b230e6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711261356m110960f7u5b9f6124830bebab@mail.gmail.com>
	<ADABF15E-0116-1000-EADA-25DD367FC36D-Webmail-10021@mac.com>
	<49d805d70711261520x401069adpbcd8c45591983841@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf13ea7e0711261553n1161980dx558b6e8ae1ad2d5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43BC1120-C551-49E9-83C7-3B7BC271F73D@gmail.com>

Okay, it looks like I'm free after all too.  Let's plan on PFX at  
seven... though I want to warn you that I might harass a few people  
into doing Perl Advent pieces.

On Nov 26, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ellington wrote:

> I am free and will show up for sure if TV and food is going on.
>
> Eric Ellington
>
>
> On 11/26/07, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I am planning to, but if the hosts aren't available  I could see
>> postponing.
>>
>> So that's Craig, Jonathan, and brian.  Anyone else?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago-talk mailing list
>> Chicago-talk at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Eric Ellington
> e.ellington at gmail.com
> ____________________________________________


From tzz at lifelogs.com  Tue Nov 27 08:07:09 2007
From: tzz at lifelogs.com (Ted Zlatanov)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:07:09 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us> (Jonathan Rockway's
	message of "Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:17:39 -0600")
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
Message-ID: <86oddf7jv6.fsf@lifelogs.com>

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:17:39 -0600 Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote: 

JR> OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting instead of
JR> a technical meeting.  This will consist of watching The IT Crowd and
JR> then going out to Monks afterward.  We will save Kent's and my talks for
JR> another time :)

JR> The meeting will start at 7 on the 12th floor of Performics, the usual
JR> place.  (Can someone at pfx generate an attendance list?)

I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
available nearby (it's my first time attending).

Ted

From kent at c2group.net  Tue Nov 27 08:10:09 2007
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:10:09 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <86oddf7jv6.fsf@lifelogs.com>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
	<86oddf7jv6.fsf@lifelogs.com>
Message-ID: <5192D3E3-E05E-4479-8F74-94B895952D1C@c2group.net>


On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>
> I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
> available nearby (it's my first time attending).

There are several parking garages nearby - there's one immediately to  
the west on Lake, if I'm remembering correctly.  And since you'll be  
arriving after 6:00, it won't be as expensive*.

There may be street parking available, but I never have the patience  
to look for it.

* for some values of less expensive.

-Kent Cowgill

C2 Group, Inc.                                             
kent at c2group.net
http://www.c2group.net                                         
312.804.0160


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 08:25:23 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:25:23 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <5192D3E3-E05E-4479-8F74-94B895952D1C@c2group.net>
References: <9EFA307E-533A-4AA5-B30C-C3EF3F6A546F@c2group.net>
	<4728A7AE.6040502@jrock.us>
	<6AD7202E-F20C-4334-8FD1-E0065DDBA7A3@c2group.net>
	<1196097459.6387.22.camel@bar.jrock.us>
	<86oddf7jv6.fsf@lifelogs.com>
	<5192D3E3-E05E-4479-8F74-94B895952D1C@c2group.net>
Message-ID: <A99839DE-F04C-4327-8354-0BA5A2CA605A@gmail.com>

There is actually street parking in front of the building (west side  
of LaSalle) .... I'm not sure when it is opened though.  You might  
want to check that first.

On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Kent Cowgill wrote:

>
> On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>>
>> I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
>> available nearby (it's my first time attending).
>
> There are several parking garages nearby - there's one immediately to
> the west on Lake, if I'm remembering correctly.  And since you'll be
> arriving after 6:00, it won't be as expensive*.
>
> There may be street parking available, but I never have the patience
> to look for it.
>
> * for some values of less expensive.
>
> -Kent Cowgill
>
> C2 Group, Inc.
> kent at c2group.net
> http://www.c2group.net
> 312.804.0160
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk


From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Tue Nov 27 11:01:11 2007
From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:01:11 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Mark your Calendars!
Message-ID: <OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

The 20th anniversary of the Perl 1 release is 18 Dec 2007.

We should have a party ...

a

Andy Bach
Systems Mangler
Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov
VOICE: (608) 261-5738  FAX 264-5932


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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 13:06:28 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:06:28 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Mark your Calendars!
In-Reply-To: <OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <65ADF902-03EA-49D5-9011-2792EAC76755@gmail.com>

> The 20th anniversary of the Perl 1 release is 18 Dec 2007.
>
> We should have a party ...
>

Or a hack-a-thon.... oh wait :)

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 13:06:28 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:06:28 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Mark your Calendars!
In-Reply-To: <OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <65ADF902-03EA-49D5-9011-2792EAC76755@gmail.com>

> The 20th anniversary of the Perl 1 release is 18 Dec 2007.
>
> We should have a party ...
>

Or a hack-a-thon.... oh wait :)

From jikanter at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 16:37:30 2007
From: jikanter at gmail.com (Jordan Kanter)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:37:30 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago-talk Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1196193611.17336.chicago-talk@pm.org>
References: <mailman.11.1196193611.17336.chicago-talk@pm.org>
Message-ID: <fefec9390711271637jfe51407u73e8334d4cf6c3b7@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/27/07, chicago-talk-request at pm.org <chicago-talk-request at pm.org> wrote:
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>    1. Re: [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow (Eric Ellington)
>    2. Re: [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow (Joshua McAdams)
>    3. Re: Downtown meeting tomorrow (Ted Zlatanov)
>    4. Re: Downtown meeting tomorrow (Kent Cowgill)
>    5. Re: Downtown meeting tomorrow (Joshua McAdams)
>    6. Mark your Calendars! (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:53:54 -0600
> From: "Eric Ellington" <e.ellington at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>, 	"Craig Berry"
> 	<craigberry at mac.com>, windycity-pm <windycity-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<cf13ea7e0711261553n1161980dx558b6e8ae1ad2d5d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I am free and will show up for sure if TV and food is going on.
>
> Eric Ellington
>
>
> On 11/26/07, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am planning to, but if the hosts aren't available  I could see
> > postponing.
> >
> > So that's Craig, Jonathan, and brian.  Anyone else?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago-talk mailing list
> > Chicago-talk at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> >
>
>
> --
> Eric Ellington
> e.ellington at gmail.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:55:41 -0600
> From: Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Downtown meeting tomorrow
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> Cc: windycity-pm <windycity-pm at pm.org>, Craig Berry
> 	<craigberry at mac.com>
> Message-ID: <43BC1120-C551-49E9-83C7-3B7BC271F73D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Okay, it looks like I'm free after all too.  Let's plan on PFX at
> seven... though I want to warn you that I might harass a few people
> into doing Perl Advent pieces.
>
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Eric Ellington wrote:
>
> > I am free and will show up for sure if TV and food is going on.
> >
> > Eric Ellington
> >
> >
> > On 11/26/07, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I am planning to, but if the hosts aren't available  I could see
> >> postponing.
> >>
> >> So that's Craig, Jonathan, and brian.  Anyone else?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago-talk mailing list
> >> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eric Ellington
> > e.ellington at gmail.com
> > ____________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:07:09 -0600
> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz at lifelogs.com>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <86oddf7jv6.fsf at lifelogs.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:17:39 -0600 Jonathan Rockway <jon at jrock.us> wrote:
>
> JR> OK, since the meeting is tomorrow, let's do a social meeting instead of
> JR> a technical meeting.  This will consist of watching The IT Crowd and
> JR> then going out to Monks afterward.  We will save Kent's and my talks for
> JR> another time :)
>
> JR> The meeting will start at 7 on the 12th floor of Performics, the usual
> JR> place.  (Can someone at pfx generate an attendance list?)
>
> I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
> available nearby (it's my first time attending).
>
> Ted
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:10:09 -0600
> From: Kent Cowgill <kent at c2group.net>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <5192D3E3-E05E-4479-8F74-94B895952D1C at c2group.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> >
> > I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
> > available nearby (it's my first time attending).
>
> There are several parking garages nearby - there's one immediately to
> the west on Lake, if I'm remembering correctly.  And since you'll be
> arriving after 6:00, it won't be as expensive*.
>
> There may be street parking available, but I never have the patience
> to look for it.
>
> * for some values of less expensive.
>
> -Kent Cowgill
>
> C2 Group, Inc.
> kent at c2group.net
> http://www.c2group.net
> 312.804.0160
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:25:23 -0600
> From: Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Downtown meeting tomorrow
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <A99839DE-F04C-4327-8354-0BA5A2CA605A at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> There is actually street parking in front of the building (west side
> of LaSalle) .... I'm not sure when it is opened though.  You might
> want to check that first.
>
> On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Kent Cowgill wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> >>
> >> I can find the place on the map, but was wondering if parking is
> >> available nearby (it's my first time attending).
> >
> > There are several parking garages nearby - there's one immediately to
> > the west on Lake, if I'm remembering correctly.  And since you'll be
> > arriving after 6:00, it won't be as expensive*.
> >
> > There may be street parking available, but I never have the patience
> > to look for it.
> >
> > * for some values of less expensive.
> >
> > -Kent Cowgill
> >
> > C2 Group, Inc.
> > kent at c2group.net
> > http://www.c2group.net
> > 312.804.0160
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago-talk mailing list
> > Chicago-talk at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:01:11 -0600
> From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov
> Subject: [Chicago-talk] Mark your Calendars!
> To: "PM, Chicago" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<OF0646E12D.8745E9E4-ON862573A0.0068663E-862573A0.00687A44 at uscmail.uscourts.gov>
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> The 20th anniversary of the Perl 1 release is 18 Dec 2007.
>
> We should have a party ...
>
> a
>
> Andy Bach
> Systems Mangler
> Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov
> VOICE: (608) 261-5738  FAX 264-5932
>
>
> ()  ASCII ribbon campaign      ()    Hopeless ribbon campaign
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 11:13:51 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:13:51 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Open Perl Training in Chicago,
	special deal for Windy City Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2715accf0710241442i7280afb9qe2ac0d1876e083d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>

In case anyone is interested....

Stonehenge is offering open enrollment Perl training in
Chicago from Dec 10-14. This is the last call for this special
offer for Chicago Perl Mongers, which won't be available after
Sunday. Use up those end of year dollars!

This is a low cost offering, so Stonehenge will not be providing
meals or laptops. The location has plenty of nearby restaurants and
you need to bring your own computer. I'll have complete details later
this week---this is a special pre-announcement offering!

Here are the public rates, and the rates I'll give for Chicago Perl
Mongers people. I can take a credit card or a purchase order. If you
or your company are interested in this, contact me right away. I can't
reserve seats without a payment arrangement, and it's first-pay first
served. There are only 20 slots per class. Companies that want to send
several students can ask for a deeper discount.

Day courses, 8am to 4pm
---------------
Learning Perl, Dec 10-12,       $750/person  --> $700 for WindyCity.pm
Intermediate Perl, Dec 13-15, $500/person  --> $450 for WindyCity.pm

Night courses, 6pm to 9pm
---------------
Catalyst, Dec 10-12,                          $375/person  --> $325
for WindyCity.pm
Test Driven Development, Dec 13-14, $250/person  --> $200 for WindyCity.pm

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From hwigoda at mindspring.com  Fri Nov 30 20:44:22 2007
From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:44:22 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Open Perl Training in Chicago,
	special deal for Windy City Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2715accf0710241442i7280afb9qe2ac0d1876e083d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEC7FF49-AFE8-4DEA-8CB2-73580C10A1B4@mindspring.com>

i would like to take the catalyst class, i think.

what book(s)
should i get before hand to prepare me?


hal


On Nov 30, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:

> In case anyone is interested....
>
> Stonehenge is offering open enrollment Perl training in
> Chicago from Dec 10-14. This is the last call for this special
> offer for Chicago Perl Mongers, which won't be available after
> Sunday. Use up those end of year dollars!
>
> This is a low cost offering, so Stonehenge will not be providing
> meals or laptops. The location has plenty of nearby restaurants and
> you need to bring your own computer. I'll have complete details later
> this week---this is a special pre-announcement offering!
>
> Here are the public rates, and the rates I'll give for Chicago Perl
> Mongers people. I can take a credit card or a purchase order. If you
> or your company are interested in this, contact me right away. I can't
> reserve seats without a payment arrangement, and it's first-pay first
> served. There are only 20 slots per class. Companies that want to send
> several students can ask for a deeper discount.
>
> Day courses, 8am to 4pm
> ---------------
> Learning Perl, Dec 10-12,       $750/person  --> $700 for WindyCity.pm
> Intermediate Perl, Dec 13-15, $500/person  --> $450 for WindyCity.pm
>
> Night courses, 6pm to 9pm
> ---------------
> Catalyst, Dec 10-12,                          $375/person  --> $325
> for WindyCity.pm
> Test Driven Development, Dec 13-14, $250/person  --> $200 for  
> WindyCity.pm
>
> --
> brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
> http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 21:16:18 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:16:18 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Open Perl Training in Chicago,
	special deal for Windy City Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <FEC7FF49-AFE8-4DEA-8CB2-73580C10A1B4@mindspring.com>
References: <2715accf0710241442i7280afb9qe2ac0d1876e083d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
	<FEC7FF49-AFE8-4DEA-8CB2-73580C10A1B4@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711302116t41ae839dk7837f4f95a982c01@mail.gmail.com>

> i would like to take the catalyst class, i think.
>
> what book(s)
> should i get before hand to prepare me?

Books are actually provided with the classes.  I'm not sure exactly
which one is going to be provided with the Catalyst class because
Rockway's book hasn't quite made it off the press yet
(http://www.packtpub.com/catalyst-perl-web-application/book).

Jonathan, which book you using?

From hwigoda at mindspring.com  Fri Nov 30 22:03:50 2007
From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Open Perl Training in Chicago,
	special deal for Windy City Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2715accf0710241442i7280afb9qe2ac0d1876e083d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC1C325E-925D-4468-9344-145044DF4AB3@mindspring.com>


where is the class held?


On Nov 30, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:

> In case anyone is interested....
>
> Stonehenge is offering open enrollment Perl training in
> Chicago from Dec 10-14. This is the last call for this special
> offer for Chicago Perl Mongers, which won't be available after
> Sunday. Use up those end of year dollars!
>
> This is a low cost offering, so Stonehenge will not be providing
> meals or laptops. The location has plenty of nearby restaurants and
> you need to bring your own computer. I'll have complete details later
> this week---this is a special pre-announcement offering!
>
> Here are the public rates, and the rates I'll give for Chicago Perl
> Mongers people. I can take a credit card or a purchase order. If you
> or your company are interested in this, contact me right away. I can't
> reserve seats without a payment arrangement, and it's first-pay first
> served. There are only 20 slots per class. Companies that want to send
> several students can ask for a deeper discount.
>
> Day courses, 8am to 4pm
> ---------------
> Learning Perl, Dec 10-12,       $750/person  --> $700 for WindyCity.pm
> Intermediate Perl, Dec 13-15, $500/person  --> $450 for WindyCity.pm
>
> Night courses, 6pm to 9pm
> ---------------
> Catalyst, Dec 10-12,                          $375/person  --> $325
> for WindyCity.pm
> Test Driven Development, Dec 13-14, $250/person  --> $200 for  
> WindyCity.pm
>
> --
> brian d foy <brian.d.foy at gmail.com>
> http://www.pair.com/~comdog/
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Nov 30 22:05:47 2007
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 00:05:47 -0600
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Open Perl Training in Chicago,
	special deal for Windy City Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <CC1C325E-925D-4468-9344-145044DF4AB3@mindspring.com>
References: <2715accf0710241442i7280afb9qe2ac0d1876e083d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<2715accf0711300955v35f6a759u847bed5a8fccc8e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70711301113x37bac84ava4438bea92c07e13@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC1C325E-925D-4468-9344-145044DF4AB3@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70711302205i50320e24j9a2b4bd46635444@mail.gmail.com>

> where is the class held?

Hosteling International Chicago on the Northwest corner of Congress and Wabash.