[Chicago-talk] What exactly is a "Application Framework"

[Jay Strauss]

Hi,

The Basset thread obviously prompted this.  Jim mentioned Basset gets 
compared with CDBI a lot, but I wouldn't call CDBI a application 
framework.  TT and Mason I'd call templating engines, good a generating 
forms (web or paper) based on variables and input.  Maypole too, I've 
been lurking on that mailing group, seems like a 2nd generation 
templating system (that is it does a lot of the grunt generation based 
on some setup stuff, to produce web pages)

what is the litmus test for something to be a application framework?

Thanks
Jay