From manchicken at notsosoft.net  Mon Jul 20 16:08:20 2009
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:20 -0500
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meeting
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Hey folks, we are at Billy baroos tonight, sorry I didn't follow up  
earlier.

Sent from my iPhone

From manchicken at notsosoft.net  Mon Jul 20 18:13:05 2009
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:13:05 -0500
Subject: [CMI.PM] Next meeting
Message-ID: <E9192C10-2C4D-47D8-A0C0-1BAD04CAEDF9@notsosoft.net>

Next meeting is back at billy barooz on Monday the 24th is august at  
6pm.

Sent from my iPhone

From mepstein at illinois.edu  Mon Jul 20 19:22:18 2009
From: mepstein at illinois.edu (Milt Epstein)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:22:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [CMI.PM] Next meeting
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:

> Next meeting is back at billy barooz on Monday the 24th is august at 6pm.

Suggestion: That location is a little far for people in Urbana.  I
know I haven't been too regular at the meetings, but if it were closer
it would make it easier to attend, and a couple of times I've not gone
just because it was so far.  If you want to have some of the meetings
out there, fine, but then it would be good to alternate it with a
closer location.

Milt Epstein
Applications Developer
Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein at illinois.edu

From steven.stone at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 19:49:36 2009
From: steven.stone at gmail.com (Steve Stone)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:49:36 -0400
Subject: [CMI.PM] Next meeting
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For what it's worth, I'm open to anywhere.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Milt Epstein<mepstein at illinois.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:
>
>> Next meeting is back at billy barooz on Monday the 24th is august at 6pm.
>
> Suggestion: That location is a little far for people in Urbana. ?I
> know I haven't been too regular at the meetings, but if it were closer
> it would make it easier to attend, and a couple of times I've not gone
> just because it was so far. ?If you want to have some of the meetings
> out there, fine, but then it would be good to alternate it with a
> closer location.
>
> Milt Epstein
> Applications Developer
> Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> mepstein at illinois.edu
> _______________________________________________
> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana
>

From manchicken at notsosoft.net  Mon Jul 20 20:52:31 2009
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:52:31 -0500
Subject: [CMI.PM] Next meeting
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There are also some of us who live in Mahomet, so I'm not sure that  
there is a place that is more convenient for all members. I'm open to  
other places, but I'm not sure that we'll be able to please everybody  
when it comes to meeting places.

We don't really have a "regular" meeting spot, I think we're all  
pretty flexible, so if one were to make a suggestion I think the group  
would be open to it. If someone does have such a suggestion, just go  
ahead and suggest and I'm sure the group would be happy to try that  
location.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 20, 2009, at 21:49, Steve Stone <steven.stone at gmail.com> wrote:

> For what it's worth, I'm open to anywhere.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Milt  
> Epstein<mepstein at illinois.edu> wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:
>>
>>> Next meeting is back at billy barooz on Monday the 24th is august  
>>> at 6pm.
>>
>> Suggestion: That location is a little far for people in Urbana.  I
>> know I haven't been too regular at the meetings, but if it were  
>> closer
>> it would make it easier to attend, and a couple of times I've not  
>> gone
>> just because it was so far.  If you want to have some of the meetings
>> out there, fine, but then it would be good to alternate it with a
>> closer location.
>>
>> Milt Epstein
>> Applications Developer
>> Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
>> mepstein at illinois.edu
>> _______________________________________________
>> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
>> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana

From mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 21 13:04:56 2009
From: mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com (Michael Fuerst)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meetings
Message-ID: <465068.45421.qm@web65105.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>

I only get digests, so unless announcement made a couple of days in advance, I will not know

Michael Fuerst

802 N Broadway

Urbana IL 61801



217-239-5844


      
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From manchicken at notsosoft.net  Tue Jul 21 13:09:55 2009
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:55 -0500
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meetings
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Yeah, we do try our best to give as close to a month notice as we can.

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On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:04, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com>  
wrote:

> I only get digests, so unless announcement made a couple of days in  
> advance, I will not know
>
> Michael Fuerst
> 802 N Broadway
> Urbana IL 61801
>
> 217-239-5844
>
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> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
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From mepstein at illinois.edu  Tue Jul 21 13:27:53 2009
From: mepstein at illinois.edu (Milt Epstein)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:27:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meetings
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:

> Yeah, we do try our best to give as close to a month notice as we can.

Well, a month is too far ahead, people will forget.  It's helpful to
also send a reminder a few days to a week before the meeting.


> On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:04, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I only get digests, so unless announcement made a couple of days in 
>> advance, I will not know
>> 
>> Michael Fuerst
>> 802 N Broadway
>> Urbana IL 61801
>> 
>> 217-239-5844
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
>> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana

Milt Epstein
Applications Developer
Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein at illinois.edu

From manchicken at notsosoft.net  Tue Jul 21 15:36:28 2009
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (manchicken)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:36:28 -0500
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meetings
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If somebody else would like to step up and do the midmonth reminders I  
don't think anybody would object.

One thing I enjoy about our group is that we are very informal. There  
are no "officers" or "secretaries", and as such it is very simple and  
we can enjoy our time together discussing things that matter to the  
group assembled. One challenge this poses however is that there is  
nobody "officially" responsible for sending messages.

I think we'd all love to see the group grow and attract other members  
of our community, and so I'd like to suggest that if you want to send  
a reminder, please do. If you'd like to suggest a meeting location or  
date, please do.

Recently our group has been meeting because the same group of four-to- 
five people have been setting meetings. It's not that way because of  
design, we're just the ones who show up, and we've been the only ones  
offering opinions. If you'd like to share your opinion on anything  
about when or where to meet, I think all would welcome it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:27, Milt Epstein <mepstein at illinois.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:
>
>> Yeah, we do try our best to give as close to a month notice as we  
>> can.
>
> Well, a month is too far ahead, people will forget.  It's helpful to
> also send a reminder a few days to a week before the meeting.
>
>
>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:04, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I only get digests, so unless announcement made a couple of days  
>>> in advance, I will not know
>>> Michael Fuerst
>>> 802 N Broadway
>>> Urbana IL 61801
>>> 217-239-5844
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
>>> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana
>
> Milt Epstein
> Applications Developer
> Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> mepstein at illinois.edu
> _______________________________________________
> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana

From mepstein at illinois.edu  Wed Jul 22 14:29:50 2009
From: mepstein at illinois.edu (Milt Epstein)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:29:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [CMI.PM] Meetings
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:

> If somebody else would like to step up and do the midmonth reminders
> I don't think anybody would object.
>
> One thing I enjoy about our group is that we are very
> informal. There are no "officers" or "secretaries", and as such it
> is very simple and we can enjoy our time together discussing things
> that matter to the group assembled. One challenge this poses however
> is that there is nobody "officially" responsible for sending
> messages.
>
> I think we'd all love to see the group grow and attract other
> members of our community, and so I'd like to suggest that if you
> want to send a reminder, please do. If you'd like to suggest a
> meeting location or date, please do.
>
> Recently our group has been meeting because the same group of
> four-to-five people have been setting meetings. It's not that way
> because of design, we're just the ones who show up, and we've been
> the only ones offering opinions. If you'd like to share your opinion
> on anything about when or where to meet, I think all would welcome
> it.

Hey, informal is great.  Simple is great.  I have no problem with that
-- those actually are my preferences.

I just think that trying for a more central location (or locations)
and sending out reminders a few days ahead are things that are easy to
do and can potentially improve attendance at these meetings.

Also note that both Michael and I are people who have attended
meetings in the past, fairly regularly, actually, as I recall, we just
haven't made it to the recent ones.  Personally, for me, that's been
mostly a matter of location and schedule (I have young children, so
sometimes family events/constraints prevent me from attending; I may
be the only one in the group in this situation, I don't recall
exactly).  So this is even a matter of making things easier for known
people who have shown enough of an interest to actually attend
meetings.

As to specific locations, I'd say "close to campus" pretty much covers
it for me.  I often get around by bike or walking, so someplace I can
get to that way would be nice (I'd be able to bike to downtown
Champaign or Urbana if the weather isn't bad).  If wi-fi is a
requirement/plus, here is a list of local places with free wi-fi:

http://www.cuwin.net/hotspots

Note quite sure how up-to-date this list is (it still lists Pages),
but it includes lots of places in Campustown and/or the downtown
areas.  Does the new Panera in Campustown have wi-fi?  What about the
Atlanta Bread Co. down Neil St.?

Here's another list I found, from a little over a year ago:

http://www.champaign.org/resources/pdfs/guidetocuwireless.pdf

Do people want food and/or alcohol to be available at these meetings?
That would limit things more, but it still looks like there are number
of places that would qualify.

If some people find the SW Champaign location convenient, given that
there seem to be more meetings lately, maybe we can alternate meetings
between there and one (or more) of the places on the above list that
are in Campustown or one of the downtown areas.

Milt


> On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:27, Milt Epstein <mepstein at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, manchicken wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, we do try our best to give as close to a month notice as we can.
>> 
>> Well, a month is too far ahead, people will forget.  It's helpful to
>> also send a reminder a few days to a week before the meeting.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 15:04, Michael Fuerst <mjerryfuerst at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I only get digests, so unless announcement made a couple of days in 
>>>> advance, I will not know
>>>> Michael Fuerst
>>>> 802 N Broadway
>>>> Urbana IL 61801
>>>> 217-239-5844
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
>>>> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana
>> 
>> Milt Epstein
>> Applications Developer
>> Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
>> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
>> mepstein at illinois.edu
>> _______________________________________________
>> Champaign-Urbana mailing list
>> Champaign-Urbana at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/champaign-urbana

Milt Epstein
Applications Developer
Graduate School of Library and Information Science (GSLIS)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
mepstein at illinois.edu