From bpm at binarymojo.net Wed Jul 9 10:25:15 2003 From: bpm at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Reminder: Buffalo Perl Mongers July Meeting Is Tomorrow Message-ID: <8728.64.65.247.81.1057764315.squirrel@my.modwest.com> BPM members: This is a reminder that our regularly scheduled meeting is being held tomorrow: Thursday, July 10, 2003 242 Bell Hall 7:00 p.m. UB North Campus Amherst, NY Kevin Eye will report in the YAPC::North America conference at the Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, Florida, U.S.A. Jason Parker-Burlington will give a presentation on CGI::Application. If any of you need directions to UB, let me know. -Kevin Christopher Buffalo Perl Mongers http://buffalo.pm.org From jasonp at panix.com Wed Jul 9 23:28:55 2003 From: jasonp at panix.com (Jason Parker-Burlingham) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Reminder: Buffalo Perl Mongers July Meeting Is Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <8728.64.65.247.81.1057764315.squirrel@my.modwest.com> (Kevin Christopher's message of "Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:25:15 -0400 (EDT)") References: <8728.64.65.247.81.1057764315.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Message-ID: <87wuer9f94.fsf@freezer.burling> "Kevin Christopher" writes: > Jason Parker-Burlingham will give a presentation on CGI::Application. The presentation is essentially ready; what would be very handy is knowing whether or not I'll be able to use the projector (I seem to recall Randal had one) and a borrowed laptop to show the slides. A recent version of either Mozilla or Internet Explorer would be quite sufficient. I can do without but the presentation will surely suffer. If someone on the list could let me know if this is possible I'd really appreciate it, and I'm sure you will too! jason -- Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: http://www.panix.com/~jasonp From bpm at binarymojo.net Thu Jul 10 08:40:23 2003 From: bpm at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Reminder: Buffalo Perl Mongers July Meeting IsTomorrow Message-ID: <8504.64.65.247.81.1057844423.squirrel@my.modwest.com> I know that the room in Bell Hall has a projector, as for a borrowed laptop, check with Rob Raux ( rjraux@buffalo.edu ) to see if UB can provide something. -Kevin C > "Kevin Christopher" writes: > >> Jason Parker-Burlingham will give a presentation on CGI::Application. > > The presentation is essentially ready; what would be very handy is > knowing whether or not I'll be able to use the projector (I seem to > recall Randal had one) and a borrowed laptop to show the slides. > > A recent version of either Mozilla or Internet Explorer would be quite > sufficient. > > I can do without but the presentation will surely suffer. > > If someone on the list could let me know if this is possible I'd > really appreciate it, and I'm sure you will too! > > jason > -- > Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: > http://www.panix.com/~jasonp > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > > > From rjraux at buffalo.edu Thu Jul 10 11:02:21 2003 From: rjraux at buffalo.edu (Rob Raux) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Room Clarification & Laptop Usage Message-ID: <1057852941.3f0d8e0d8c79d@mail1.buffalo.edu> Some clarification: My understanding is that Dan M. is the only one who has access to Bell 242 now. Meetings can only be held there only after making sure he can open the room. Without this assurance, there could be big dissapoint when everyone shows up to wait in the hallway. >From talking with Dan, who can not attend the meeting tonight because of class, he stated that no one talked to him about opening the room tonight. Fortunately, I am going to grab his card from him today so that I will be able to open it for us tonight. With regards to the laptop: I can not get a laptop from UB for this presentation. I can however offer up my own for usage. I shall bring it with me tonight. These are the brief specs, just to make sure it has everything that everyone needs: Gentoo linux - 2.4.21 Mozilla 1.4 OpenOffice 1.0 (Opens PPT slides from windows) perl 5.8.0 w/any modules you need ----- See you all there tonight, Rob From jasonp at panix.com Thu Jul 10 13:55:58 2003 From: jasonp at panix.com (Jason Parker-Burlingham) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Room Clarification & Laptop Usage In-Reply-To: <1057852941.3f0d8e0d8c79d@mail1.buffalo.edu> (Rob Raux's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:02:21 -0400") References: <1057852941.3f0d8e0d8c79d@mail1.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <87isqa9poh.fsf@freezer.burling> Rob Raux writes: > From talking with Dan, who can not attend the meeting tonight > because of class, he stated that no one talked to him about opening > the room tonight. Fortunately, I am going to grab his card from him > today so that I will be able to open it for us tonight. Many thanks to you, and to Dan, then. > With regards to the laptop: > I can not get a laptop from UB for this presentation. I can however > offer up my own for usage. I shall bring it with me tonight. That's very generous. Thank you. > These are the brief specs, just to make sure it has everything that > everyone needs: > > Gentoo linux - 2.4.21 > Mozilla 1.4 These two will suffice if the room has network access[1]---the presentation slides are online even now and there's no way I could offer a live presentation of the application anyway (300MB of data is too much to copy to anywhere that could host it). jason [1] : I could probably finagle some solution if I have to work offline as the presentation is very small. -- Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: http://www.panix.com/~jasonp From kevin at binarymojo.net Thu Jul 10 15:27:55 2003 From: kevin at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Room Clarification & Laptop Usage Message-ID: <4782.64.65.247.81.1057868875.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Rob: Thanks for clarifying and straightening things out for tonight. -Kevin C. > Some clarification: > > My understanding is that Dan M. is the only one who has access to Bell > 242 now. Meetings can only be held there only after making sure he can > open the room. Without this assurance, there could be big dissapoint > when everyone shows up to wait in the hallway. > >>From talking with Dan, who can not attend the meeting tonight because of > class, he stated that no one talked to him about opening the room > tonight. Fortunately, I am going to grab his card from him today so > that I will be able to open it for us tonight. > > With regards to the laptop: > > I can not get a laptop from UB for this presentation. I can however > offer up my own for usage. I shall bring it with me tonight. > > These are the brief specs, just to make sure it has everything that > everyone needs: > > Gentoo linux - 2.4.21 > Mozilla 1.4 > OpenOffice 1.0 (Opens PPT slides from windows) > perl 5.8.0 w/any modules you need > > ----- > See you all there tonight, > Rob > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > > > From bpm at binarymojo.net Tue Jul 22 21:05:56 2003 From: bpm at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Buffalo Perl Mongers Updates Message-ID: <32846.67.75.59.217.1058925956.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Items: (1) Belated Report on Fifth Buffalo Perl Mongers Meeting (2) Bid for YAPC 2004? (3) Change to August 14 meeting (4) Kevin Eye's psh (5) TPM's Kwiki ________________________________________________________________ (1) Belated Report on Fifth Buffalo Perl Mongers Meeting: Those of you who missed the Fifth BPM Meeting on July 10, missed an excellent evening of Perl discussion. Kevin Eye gave an overview of the new features of Perl 6 discussed at YAPC 2003 last month. His notes (PDF) can be found at http://buffalo.pm.org. In particular he discussed how the functions and syntax of Damian Conway's Quantum::Superpositions module will be included into the core syntax of 6. (Luckily, Lingua::Romana::Perligata won't be included ;) ). Jason Parker Burlingham gave the feature presentation on his USENET Archiving project using Class::DBI and CGI::Application. His notes for the talk can be found on his blog at http://www.panix.com/~jasonp/index.cgi?ClassDBI. It was an excellent overview of an ambitious project. If any of you are working on an archiving project or databases, you might want to talk to him for tips. (2) Bid for YAPC 2004? It's come up at least a couple of meetings, and the deadline (August 1) is near. Jim Brandt and I have been discussing what we need to do to make a bid for YAPC 2004. One thing is certain: if we do this we'll need all the help we can get, and a significant number of us would have to be committed the project if we actually win the bid. The Toronto Perl Mongers are going to bid, as well as the DC Perl Mongers. I understand from Richard Dice that Ottawa has dropped the idea. Jim is talking with UB's Office of Special Events to see what they can offer and I'm grabbing info on transportation, hotels, area attractions, etc. Since we will only meet after the bid deadline, we need to open up discussion here on the mailing list. What do think? Will you pitch into the effort if we do this? Do you have any ideas? (3) Change to August 14 Meeting: Kevin Eye will not be speaking at our August 14th meeting as originally scheduled. He is getting married on that weekend, and with all the activities going on that week he won't have the time to spare after all for a half dozen fellow Perl hackers (Imagine that!) ;). We'll think of something. Given item (2) we may have a full agenda without a feature talk. (4) Kevin Eye's psh A few weeks ago, Kevin Eye circulated his perl shell program based on Perl's interactive debugger. Some of you may have noticed an odd feature; some of you may even have recognized it as a bug: the variables you defined on one line wouldn't survive in the next. It turns out that Kevin had purposely included the bug: the use of the "strict" pragma. Remove that line and it should work properly. I've attached his debugged version to this e-mail. (5) TPM's Kwiki Richard Dice e-mailed me today to inform us about Toronto Perl Mongers' nifty new Wiki Site at TPM's Kwiki ( http://to.pm.org/cgi-bin/kwiki/index.cgi?HomePage ) That's all for now. - Kevin C. -30-30-30- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: psh Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3922 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/buffalo-pm/attachments/20030722/6d8a13d4/psh.obj From rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue Jul 22 21:47:38 2003 From: rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Rob Raux) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Buffalo Perl Mongers Updates Message-ID: First of all, I'd like to send out my congrats to Kevin Eye. I'm just curious why he had volunteered to give a talk that week... perhaps he forgot he was getting married ;-) With regards to the bid for YAPC in 2004, I think it is certainly well worth the effort. The thought of having this type of conference right at UB is certainly exciting. What has yet to be done however if the bid submission date is August 1st? Would we be scrambling a bit too much to throw it all together? If anyone who has more information and requires some help, or perhaps some contacts, I could certainly be of service. Just contact me ASAP and I we can work something out. As for actually participating and organizing, I will be unavailable since I will most likely be moving out of Buffalo in January (ahh, cheers for graduation). In any event, I think that if the bid for YAPC was accepted, it could help fuel more local interest, and perhaps by the time the conference came in a year, the Buffalo PM membership would significantly increase. I'm sure some UB campus promotion for ACM alone would boost the size by at least 6-10 regulars. That's all from me. See you all soon. Rob Raux From eye at buffalo.edu Wed Jul 23 07:29:06 2003 From: eye at buffalo.edu (Kevin Eye) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Buffalo Perl Mongers Updates In-Reply-To: <32846.67.75.59.217.1058925956.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Message-ID: <404A5EBC-BD09-11D7-BC12-000393D1C5F2@buffalo.edu> > (2) Bid for YAPC 2004? I'd be very excited to help with this. I'd definitely be available to pitch in if our bid is accepted. Let me know if there's anything I can help with for the proposal, too. > (3) Change to August 14 Meeting: > Kevin Eye will not be speaking at our August 14th meeting as originally > scheduled. He is getting married on that weekend, Ok, so yes, I didn't realize the dates conflicted until just now. (Shhhhh...) But maybe I can get away with blaming it on how we switched the meetings from the last Thursady to the second Thursday of the month... yeah.. that was it. :-) > (4) Kevin Eye's psh > It turns out that Kevin had purposely included a bug I didn't do it on purpose. I'm not sure how you got that impression. I use the program a lot, but before I sent it to the list, I couldn't resist making a couple changes to the cote (I made it work better without some optional modules). Of course I tested it, promptly sent it off to the list, and about an hour later realized that it had a pretty obvious bug (the use strict thing). I figured I wouldn't bother sending out a correction because the meeting was coming up and I'd mention it there. > (5) TPM's Kwiki I've been using kwiki more and more lately. I could set a kwiki up for the group if you think it would help facilitate our discussions. - Kevin -- Kevin Eye Web Applications Developer Creative Services and Marketing University at Buffalo 330 Crofts Hall Buffalo, NY 14260 eye@buffalo.edu phone (716) 645-5000 x1435 fax (716) 645-3765 From bpm at binarymojo.net Wed Jul 23 11:09:35 2003 From: bpm at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Correction and Another Update Message-ID: <8784.64.65.247.81.1058976575.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Correction to my previous post ( see http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/buffalo-pm/2003-July/000038.html ): I mangled the facts behind Kevin Eye's psh bug. Kevin did not purposely insert the "use strict" bug the code, which he pointed out at our July meeting. I assumed that he put the bug in it because I remembered that we had briefly discussed posting Perl puzzlers to the list, maybe including bugs for list members to find. My assumption is odd in retrospect, because he never said "Can you find the bug I put in this code?" in when he posted psh to the list or when he mentioned the bug at the last meeting. Anyway, please correct this meme bug in your reality toolkit. (2) I've received 3 positive responses while trolling for gurus to speak at upcoming BPM meetings: - Dan Sugalski, designer of Parrot, replied that he'd be happy to speak in the near future. I hope that we'll have him here this fall. - Mark Jason Dominus, is also willing to visit Buffalo in the near future, especially if we can coordinate with Pittsburgh PM (and maybe Toronto PM) to get him up here from Philadelphia. - Dick Hart (ActiveState) say he'll gladly speak to our group the next time he's in the region, but there's no actual date that he mentioned when he'll find himself up here. That's all for now, Kevin C. From jasonp at panix.com Thu Jul 24 08:15:07 2003 From: jasonp at panix.com (Jason Parker-Burlingham) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Correction and Another Update In-Reply-To: <8784.64.65.247.81.1058976575.squirrel@my.modwest.com> (Kevin Christopher's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:09:35 -0400 (EDT)") References: <8784.64.65.247.81.1058976575.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Message-ID: <877k68vzfo.fsf@freezer.burling> "Kevin Christopher" writes: > (2) I've received 3 positive responses while trolling for gurus to speak > at upcoming BPM meetings: Dan Sugalski and MJD are both gods to me. I'd be very interested in hearing them speak---at least as much as Randal but possibly more because I'd seen him a year or two previously. Excellent work. As far as other speakers go, did you speak to Brian Mathis at all? He is the person behind the Rochester Perl Mongers group (now sadly in decline if not dead) and at the very least would probably be pleased to know about this group. > - Dick Hart (ActiveState) say he'll gladly speak to our group the > next time he's in the region, but there's no actual date that he > mentioned when he'll find himself up here. I saw Dick at the YAPC Canada in May; he gave a good presentation and answered a number of insightful questions from the floor about where ActiveState came from and where it's going. Do list members have anything to say about the Pony effort (rewriting Perl 5 to use Parrot)? -- Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: http://www.panix.com/~jasonp From cbrandt at buffalo.edu Thu Jul 24 11:04:43 2003 From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Perl Training Message-ID: <89C6B0F4-BDF0-11D7-89E7-000A9588183A@buffalo.edu> Perl Mongers, In case any of you know of someone looking for Perl training, I'm teaching an Advanced Perl course starting next week through the School of Management here at UB. It's 6 evenings, 3 hours/evening. http://mgt.buffalo.edu/dme/Internet_classes.shtm (scroll down to the bottom for the advanced perl course) It's called advanced, but this is really just to distinguish it from the Intro course. It basically assumes you know how to write a "hello world" in Perl and can get it to run on your platform. Any questions, let me know. Jim ========================================== Jim Brandt Administrative Computing Services University at Buffalo From cbrandt at buffalo.edu Thu Jul 24 11:29:10 2003 From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Ponie In-Reply-To: <877k68vzfo.fsf@freezer.burling> Message-ID: On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Jason Parker-Burlingham wrote: > Do list members have anything to say about the Pony effort (rewriting > Perl 5 to use Parrot)? I was at OSCON for this announcement and some folks seem pretty excited about it. For those of you who don't see why this matters, I think the main issue is migration from perl 5 to perl 6. This will allow a slow migration because you can upgrade to perl 5 running on ponie first, then to perl 6. Basically, it allows the two projects to be somewhat decoupled. And it stands for: Ponie: Perl On New Internals Engine Details are here: http://opensource.fotango.com/ponie/ I think 2 open sourcers who work at fotango are allowed to work half of their actual work time on this project. Pretty cool of them (fotango) to do that. Jim ========================================== Jim Brandt Administrative Computing Services University at Buffalo From phytar at csh.rit.edu Thu Jul 24 15:44:48 2003 From: phytar at csh.rit.edu (John Resig) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Correction and Another Update Message-ID: Hello Jason, Brian Mathis is no longer in charge of the Rochester PM group, it had gone defunct for a couple years, and I just took over. I'm looking to start meetings up again come this fall. (and yes, I am away of the Buffalo PM group, I've been following it very closely, I just haven't been able to make a meeting, yet.) John Resig phytar@csh.rit.edu http://csh.rit.edu/~phytar/ From bpm at binarymojo.net Tue Jul 29 09:35:03 2003 From: bpm at binarymojo.net (Kevin Christopher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. Message-ID: <7156.64.65.247.81.1059489303.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Fellow Perl Mongers: This past weekend, Kevin Eye installed a kwiki site featuring our YAPC::NA 2004 proposal in progress at http://buffalo.pm.org/yapc/. Also, Jim Brandt is meeting today with UB's conference staff to discuss the services UB can provide for a 2004 YAPC on the UB North Campus. -Kevin From rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU Tue Jul 29 10:24:40 2003 From: rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Rob Raux) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. In-Reply-To: <7156.64.65.247.81.1059489303.squirrel@my.modwest.com> Message-ID: Site is looking good. Here are a couple of additions from what I've read: Facilities * NSC does have wireless access and I have tested this in numerous rooms. The issue however is breaking the firewall. At this point you need a UBitname and password to get through the gateway. I'm sure there could be a workaround for this. Residence Halls * Once again for networking (wireless and lan), we have the problem of authentication. I'm sure what could be done, is there are temporary accounts that could be utilized. LocalInfo * Could give tour of CCR as well as CEDAR (that's always a big one). The CS department I'm sure would be more than happy to get involved. As well as ACM?! Hopefully that's a bit more info. Rob On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Kevin Christopher wrote: > Fellow Perl Mongers: > > This past weekend, Kevin Eye installed a kwiki site featuring our > YAPC::NA 2004 proposal in progress at http://buffalo.pm.org/yapc/. > > Also, Jim Brandt is meeting today with UB's conference staff to discuss > the services UB can provide for a 2004 YAPC on the UB North Campus. > > -Kevin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > From dudek at buffalo.edu Tue Jul 29 10:55:16 2003 From: dudek at buffalo.edu (David Dudek) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This link for the Office of Special Events might be helpful for planning: http://wings.buffalo.edu/events/conference.shtml -- David Thomas Dudek http://www.buffalo.edu/~dudek/ On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Rob Raux wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:24:40 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rob Raux > To: buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. > > Site is looking good. > > Here are a couple of additions from what I've read: > > Facilities > * NSC does have wireless access and I have tested this in numerous > rooms. The issue however is breaking the firewall. At this point you > need a UBitname and password to get through the gateway. I'm sure there > could be a workaround for this. > > Residence Halls > * Once again for networking (wireless and lan), we have the problem of > authentication. I'm sure what could be done, is there are temporary > accounts that could be utilized. > > LocalInfo > * Could give tour of CCR as well as CEDAR (that's always a big one). The > CS department I'm sure would be more than happy to get involved. As well > as ACM?! > > Hopefully that's a bit more info. > > Rob > > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Kevin Christopher wrote: > > > Fellow Perl Mongers: > > > > This past weekend, Kevin Eye installed a kwiki site featuring our > > YAPC::NA 2004 proposal in progress at http://buffalo.pm.org/yapc/. > > > > Also, Jim Brandt is meeting today with UB's conference staff to discuss > > the services UB can provide for a 2004 YAPC on the UB North Campus. > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Buffalo-pm mailing list > > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > > > From mtr3 at buffalo.edu Tue Jul 29 12:19:45 2003 From: mtr3 at buffalo.edu (Mike Richardson) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14332218.1059484785@c309a.pharm.buffalo.edu> --In a burst of eloquence, Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:24 AM -0400 Rob Raux usus loquendi: > Facilities > * NSC does have wireless access and I have tested this in > numerous rooms. The issue however is breaking the > firewall. At this point you need a UBitname and password > to get through the gateway. I'm sure there could be a > workaround for this. I seem to remember "temporary" UBIT names being assigned for conference attendees (they would need them for dormitory access anyway, pending the dorms were available at that time). Help Desk (or Dave Dudek?) might have more of an answer for that. Michael Richardson -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Web Programmer, ePharmacotherapy Network SUNY At Buffalo School of Pharmacy 309 Cooke Hall, North Campus From dudek at buffalo.edu Tue Jul 29 12:22:30 2003 From: dudek at buffalo.edu (David Dudek) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:56 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. In-Reply-To: <14332218.1059484785@c309a.pharm.buffalo.edu> References: <14332218.1059484785@c309a.pharm.buffalo.edu> Message-ID: I don't have that information, and the Help Desk won't either. Contact the Office of Special Events. -- David Thomas Dudek http://www.buffalo.edu/~dudek/ On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Mike Richardson wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:19:45 -0400 > From: Mike Richardson > To: buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. > > > > --In a burst of eloquence, Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:24 AM > -0400 Rob Raux usus loquendi: > > > Facilities > > * NSC does have wireless access and I have tested this in > > numerous rooms. The issue however is breaking the > > firewall. At this point you need a UBitname and password > > to get through the gateway. I'm sure there could be a > > workaround for this. > > I seem to remember "temporary" UBIT names being assigned > for conference attendees (they would need them for > dormitory access anyway, pending the dorms were available > at that time). Help Desk (or Dave Dudek?) might have more > of an answer for that. > > Michael Richardson > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Web Programmer, ePharmacotherapy Network > SUNY At Buffalo School of Pharmacy > 309 Cooke Hall, North Campus > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > > > From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 14:24:00 2003 From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:57 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC Kwiki, &c. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030729192400.25543.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> I would definately like to see ACM involved with this. Not only would it be good for the members of ACM to get involved, but I think that it can bring new people to the BPM group as well. I'm confident that there will be people willing to help out, and I will make sure that ACM is a resource if needed. Dan Magnuszewski ACM Chair University at Buffalo Rob Raux wrote: Site is looking good. Here are a couple of additions from what I've read: Facilities * NSC does have wireless access and I have tested this in numerous rooms. The issue however is breaking the firewall. At this point you need a UBitname and password to get through the gateway. I'm sure there could be a workaround for this. Residence Halls * Once again for networking (wireless and lan), we have the problem of authentication. I'm sure what could be done, is there are temporary accounts that could be utilized. LocalInfo * Could give tour of CCR as well as CEDAR (that's always a big one). The CS department I'm sure would be more than happy to get involved. As well as ACM?! Hopefully that's a bit more info. Rob On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Kevin Christopher wrote: > Fellow Perl Mongers: > > This past weekend, Kevin Eye installed a kwiki site featuring our > YAPC::NA 2004 proposal in progress at http://buffalo.pm.org/yapc/. > > Also, Jim Brandt is meeting today with UB's conference staff to discuss > the services UB can provide for a 2004 YAPC on the UB North Campus. > > -Kevin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > _______________________________________________ Buffalo-pm mailing list Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 185 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/buffalo-pm/attachments/20030730/6d5a5577/attachment.bin From jasonp at panix.com Wed Jul 30 23:16:52 2003 From: jasonp at panix.com (Jason Parker-Burlingham) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:57 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] LWP help request In-Reply-To: <20030730215940.GA24536@cse.Buffalo.EDU> (Jesse L. Farinacci's message of "Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:59:40 -0400") References: <20030730215940.GA24536@cse.Buffalo.EDU> Message-ID: <87vftjpbyj.fsf@freezer.burling> Jesse L Farinacci writes: > my $url = 'https://manage1.sprintpcs.com/Manage?target=MyCurrentUsage&action=current_usage'; > my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; > my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => $url); > $req->authorization_basic(PHONE_NBR, PASSWORD); > my $res = $ua->request($req); I think I *do* remember some problems getting basic authorization working over HTTPS some years ago when I was working on a HotMail harvester. Sadly I seem to have deleted that project. > i've got the LWP with SSL properly configured, i've tested this out with > other https pages and it's working fine. I assume the other pages don't use basic authorization? Could you set up a small test area to work with? > i'm not sure if it is even possible for me to POST to the main page, > then while still within that UserAgent to request the usage page :: > perhaps the uname / pword authentication will have passed from the > POST and remain within the context of the UA?? maybe i'm grasping > at straws.. You *may* want to have a look at the WWW::Mechanize::Shell module from CPAN. I've been toying with it for the last few hours and have been having pretty good success, although... Well. Here's the problem: [0]henry@freezer:henry $ perl -MWWW::Mechanize::Shell -eshell Module File::Modified not found. Automatic reloading disabled. >get http://heavens-above.com/ Retrieving http://heavens-above.com/(200) http://heavens-above.com/>links [0] Return to main menu page [1] Advertisement [2] here [3] here [4] log-on [5] Register [6] Select [7] Enter [8] Chris Peat [9] FAQ [10] GSOC Home Page http://heavens-above.com/>open 4 (200) http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>forms Form [1] POST http://heavens-above.com/processlogon.asp UserName= (textbox) Password= (password) Remember= (checkbox) [*|1] =Submit (submit) http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>fillout (textbox)UserName> [] nooks (password)Password> [] NotMyPassword |1 (checkbox)Remember> [] 1 http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>submit 200 http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp?Err=ZeroLenUser> For some reason trying to set the UserName parameter doesn't seem to be sent to the server correctly. But this sounds like a pretty bad failure of WWW::Mechanize::Shell. I'm checking the module is properly installed now but I wonder if any list members have ideas? jason -- Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: http://www.panix.com/~jasonp From rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu Jul 31 07:33:56 2003 From: rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Rob Raux) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:57 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] LWP help request In-Reply-To: <87vftjpbyj.fsf@freezer.burling> Message-ID: I've used WWW::Mechanize and something like HTML::TokeParse to navigate pages with cookies and SSL. I would suggest you look into this route. I have been able to write scripts to get my bank balances, credit card balances etc. I have a sprintpcs account myself, so I may actually mess around with that when I get back from class/work. In the meantime, I would check out: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/01/22/mechanize.html and of course http://search.cpan.org/author/PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-0.56/lib/WWW/Mechanize.pm http://search.cpan.org/author/PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-0.56/lib/WWW/Mechanize/Examples.pod HTH, Rob On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jason Parker-Burlingham wrote: > Jesse L Farinacci writes: > > > my $url = 'https://manage1.sprintpcs.com/Manage?target=MyCurrentUsage&action=current_usage'; > > my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; > > my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => $url); > > $req->authorization_basic(PHONE_NBR, PASSWORD); > > my $res = $ua->request($req); > > I think I *do* remember some problems getting basic authorization > working over HTTPS some years ago when I was working on a HotMail > harvester. Sadly I seem to have deleted that project. > > > i've got the LWP with SSL properly configured, i've tested this out with > > other https pages and it's working fine. > > I assume the other pages don't use basic authorization? Could you set > up a small test area to work with? > > > i'm not sure if it is even possible for me to POST to the main page, > > then while still within that UserAgent to request the usage page :: > > perhaps the uname / pword authentication will have passed from the > > POST and remain within the context of the UA?? maybe i'm grasping > > at straws.. > > You *may* want to have a look at the WWW::Mechanize::Shell module from > CPAN. I've been toying with it for the last few hours and have been > having pretty good success, although... Well. Here's the problem: > > [0]henry@freezer:henry $ perl -MWWW::Mechanize::Shell -eshell > Module File::Modified not found. Automatic reloading disabled. > >get http://heavens-above.com/ > Retrieving http://heavens-above.com/(200) > http://heavens-above.com/>links > [0] Return to main menu page > [1] Advertisement > [2] here > [3] here > [4] log-on > [5] Register > [6] Select > [7] Enter > [8] Chris Peat > [9] FAQ > [10] GSOC Home Page > http://heavens-above.com/>open 4 > (200) > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>forms > Form [1] > POST http://heavens-above.com/processlogon.asp > UserName= (textbox) > Password= (password) > Remember= (checkbox) [*|1] > =Submit (submit) > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>fillout > (textbox)UserName> [] nooks > (password)Password> [] NotMyPassword > |1 > (checkbox)Remember> [] 1 > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>submit > 200 > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp?Err=ZeroLenUser> > > For some reason trying to set the UserName parameter doesn't seem to > be sent to the server correctly. But this sounds like a pretty bad > failure of WWW::Mechanize::Shell. I'm checking the module is properly > installed now but I wonder if any list members have ideas? > > jason > -- > Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: > http://www.panix.com/~jasonp > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm > From cbrandt at buffalo.edu Thu Jul 31 10:28:42 2003 From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:57 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] YAPC proposal Message-ID: Many thanks to everyone who has commented on the list. In response to some of the comments, yes we have been in touch with Jay Friedman in Conferences and Special events. They do all sorts of events and they do have solutions for using the networks in NSC. They are also helping us out with many other aspects of the planning process. We are continuing to work on the page in the kwiki site and welcome any other input. Dan, it's good to hear that we'll have some student support. Feel free to add an AssociationforComputingMachinery (or whatever you want to call it) section to the kwiki and put some links in. If you're not sure how to do it, just contact one of us (me or Kevin). I'll try to keep everyone posted as we move forward. ========================================== Jim Brandt Administrative Computing Services University at Buffalo From rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU Thu Jul 31 11:47:36 2003 From: rjraux at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Rob Raux) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:25:57 2004 Subject: [Buffalo-pm] LWP help request In-Reply-To: <87vftjpbyj.fsf@freezer.burling> Message-ID: I threw together a brief little example of using WWW::Mechanize to get right into your minutes. All you need to do is regex the actual data out of the page... perhaps taking a look at HTML::TokeParse. Any questions, feel free to ask. Rob ---- CUT ----- #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use WWW::Mechanize; my $PHONE = '5555555555'; my $PASS = 'iamgod'; my $agent = WWW::Mechanize->new(); $agent->get("http://www.sprintpcs.com/"); $agent->form(1); $agent->field("min", $PHONE); $agent->field("password", $PASS); $agent->click(); $agent->follow_link( url => 'https://manage1.sprintpcs.com/Manage?target=MyCurrentUsage&action=current_usage'); #this will print you the page you want, #now you just need to get the data in a form you want... regex? print $agent->{content}; ---------- On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jason Parker-Burlingham wrote: > Jesse L Farinacci writes: > > > my $url = 'https://manage1.sprintpcs.com/Manage?target=MyCurrentUsage&action=current_usage'; > > my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new; > > my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => $url); > > $req->authorization_basic(PHONE_NBR, PASSWORD); > > my $res = $ua->request($req); > > I think I *do* remember some problems getting basic authorization > working over HTTPS some years ago when I was working on a HotMail > harvester. Sadly I seem to have deleted that project. > > > i've got the LWP with SSL properly configured, i've tested this out with > > other https pages and it's working fine. > > I assume the other pages don't use basic authorization? Could you set > up a small test area to work with? > > > i'm not sure if it is even possible for me to POST to the main page, > > then while still within that UserAgent to request the usage page :: > > perhaps the uname / pword authentication will have passed from the > > POST and remain within the context of the UA?? maybe i'm grasping > > at straws.. > > You *may* want to have a look at the WWW::Mechanize::Shell module from > CPAN. I've been toying with it for the last few hours and have been > having pretty good success, although... Well. Here's the problem: > > [0]henry@freezer:henry $ perl -MWWW::Mechanize::Shell -eshell > Module File::Modified not found. Automatic reloading disabled. > >get http://heavens-above.com/ > Retrieving http://heavens-above.com/(200) > http://heavens-above.com/>links > [0] Return to main menu page > [1] Advertisement > [2] here > [3] here > [4] log-on > [5] Register > [6] Select > [7] Enter > [8] Chris Peat > [9] FAQ > [10] GSOC Home Page > http://heavens-above.com/>open 4 > (200) > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>forms > Form [1] > POST http://heavens-above.com/processlogon.asp > UserName= (textbox) > Password= (password) > Remember= (checkbox) [*|1] > =Submit (submit) > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>fillout > (textbox)UserName> [] nooks > (password)Password> [] NotMyPassword > |1 > (checkbox)Remember> [] 1 > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp>submit > 200 > http://heavens-above.com/logon.asp?Err=ZeroLenUser> > > For some reason trying to set the UserName parameter doesn't seem to > be sent to the server correctly. But this sounds like a pretty bad > failure of WWW::Mechanize::Shell. I'm checking the module is properly > installed now but I wonder if any list members have ideas? > > jason > -- > Stay up-to-date on what I'm doing lately: > http://www.panix.com/~jasonp > _______________________________________________ > Buffalo-pm mailing list > Buffalo-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm >