[BNE-PM] corba & j2ee

[Don.Simonetta at mincom.com]

Hi Derek,
Good to see you retained enough brain cells after that "meeting" to 
remember that jab :-)

OK I admit it - I had no idea that CORBA played a part in J2EE. Sounds 
like you'll have to start with the basics when you get around to doing 
your talk on the perl ORB to the brisabne.pm community.

cheers
Don



Tony Obermeit wrote:
>> Of course if you wanted to start a real flame war you might start 
>> talking about creating web applications under IIS/ASP. After all, this 
>> technology probably has more market share than java. You could 
>> probably use all the same arguments for using ASP as those for using 
>> java (eg packaging, distributed source code etc).
> 
> 
> Interestingly, organisations such as Gartner and the Meta Group list 
> J2EE and .NET as the only two architectures to be considered in the 
> Enterprise space.  Other technologies don't get a mention any more. 

I wonder why? What is this term "Enterprise", anyway? I've yet to see a 
definition that wasn't "what we're hyping this quarter". Why isn't C++ 
or Perl, or anything else, on that list? Puzzling ...

It's also interesting that J2EE makes the list, but CORBA doesn't. 
Considering the "Enterprise" in J2EE is EJB, and that's just a design 
pattern running over CORBA (CORBA IIOP is the on-the-wire protocol, and 
JTS is a rebadged CORBA OTS for example).

And yes, Don, that's the answer to your "no-one uses CORBA" jab at the 
meeting - everyone *does*, they just don't know it anymore. That's why 
the Perl ORB is going to be so cool ... the whole idea of using and 
implementing EJBs in Perl is, well, going to break a few preconceptions. 
If I get it that far, that is :)


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