From janine at ucar.edu  Mon Oct 19 10:07:26 2009
From: janine at ucar.edu (Janine Goldstein)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:07:26 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] How do I catch "Can't locate <module>.pm" errors at
	runtime
Message-ID: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu>

Hi Boulder Perl Mongers,

I have been trolling the web looking for help with a programming problem and I found your group. Hopefully this is a good place to ask my question.


I have some code that uses a Perl module and I would like to catch the
 error "Can't locate <module>.pm in @INC" at runtime, give use user an
 error message telling them they need to run the code on a different
 machine, and exit gracefully.
 
I have tried:

no warnings FATAL
eval {use <module>}; warn $@ if $@;
BEGIN {$SIG{"__WARN__"} = sub {...};
try {use <module>;} catch {...};

all to no avail. Am I messing up the syntax or is there something more
fundamental going on?

Thanks for any and all help!!!!

Janine


From deandre at deandrecarroll.com  Mon Oct 19 10:22:35 2009
From: deandre at deandrecarroll.com (DeAndre Carroll)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:22:35 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] How do I catch "Can't locate <module>.pm" errors
 at	runtime
In-Reply-To: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu>
References: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <4ADCA05B.8070005@deandrecarroll.com>

The thing to remember here is that 'use' is a compile time directive. It 
is shorthand for the following:

BEGIN {
    require YourModule;
    YourModule->import(LIST);
}

You could wrap the require and import steps in an eval {} and exit 
gracefully given an error (found in $@).

Hope this helps.


Janine Goldstein wrote:
> Hi Boulder Perl Mongers,
>
> I have been trolling the web looking for help with a programming 
> problem and I found your group. Hopefully this is a good place to ask 
> my question.
>
>
> I have some code that uses a Perl module and I would like to catch the
> error "Can't locate <module>.pm in @INC" at runtime, give use user an
> error message telling them they need to run the code on a different
> machine, and exit gracefully.
>
> I have tried:
>
> no warnings FATAL
> eval {use <module>}; warn $@ if $@;
> BEGIN {$SIG{"__WARN__"} = sub {...};
> try {use <module>;} catch {...};
>
> all to no avail. Am I messing up the syntax or is there something more
> fundamental going on?
>
> Thanks for any and all help!!!!
>
> Janine
>
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>
>


From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 10:23:47 2009
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:23:47 -0200
Subject: [Boulder.pm] How do I catch "Can't locate <module>.pm" errors
	at runtime
In-Reply-To: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu>
References: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0910191023y64dd7609gb444678d950fc3df@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Janine Goldstein <janine at ucar.edu> wrote:

> Hi Boulder Perl Mongers,
>
> I have been trolling the web looking for help with a programming problem
> and I found your group. Hopefully this is a good place to ask my question.
>
>
> I have some code that uses a Perl module and I would like to catch the
> error "Can't locate <module>.pm in @INC" at runtime, give use user an
> error message telling them they need to run the code on a different
> machine, and exit gracefully.
>
> I have tried:
>
> no warnings FATAL
> eval {use <module>}; warn $@ if $@;
>


The problem here is that you are using

     eval BLOCK

rather than

     eval STRING

such as in

     eval "use <module>".

The "eval BLOCK" form compiles the BLOCK -- so this form does not catch
syntax or other compile-time errors. The "use" statement is a compile-time
statement -- so if the module is not there, it will die when compilation,
instead of  when running the "eval" as you expected.




> BEGIN {$SIG{"__WARN__"} = sub {...};
> try {use <module>;} catch {...};
>
> all to no avail. Am I messing up the syntax or is there something more
> fundamental going on?
>
> Thanks for any and all help!!!!
>
> Janine
>
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>
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From devin.austin at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 10:50:09 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:50:09 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
Message-ID: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,
I'm located in Denver, currently going to Metro State for Computer
Forensics.  Do you guys have any sort of meetings planned out? Is there a
schedule somewhere? I'd love to meet up with all of you.

-Devin "dhoss" Austin
-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From janine at ucar.edu  Mon Oct 19 13:48:05 2009
From: janine at ucar.edu (Janine Goldstein)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:48:05 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] How do I catch "Can't locate <module>.pm" errors
 at	runtime
In-Reply-To: <4ADCA05B.8070005@deandrecarroll.com>
References: <4ADC9CCE.2000008@ucar.edu> <4ADCA05B.8070005@deandrecarroll.com>
Message-ID: <4ADCD085.1050201@ucar.edu>

DeAndre,

Thanks so much. This works like a charm!
And thanks to Adriano for the additional explanations.

Janine

DeAndre Carroll wrote:
> The thing to remember here is that 'use' is a compile time directive. 
> It is shorthand for the following:
>
> BEGIN {
>    require YourModule;
>    YourModule->import(LIST);
> }
>
> You could wrap the require and import steps in an eval {} and exit 
> gracefully given an error (found in $@).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Janine Goldstein wrote:
>> Hi Boulder Perl Mongers,
>>
>> I have been trolling the web looking for help with a programming 
>> problem and I found your group. Hopefully this is a good place to ask 
>> my question.
>>
>>
>> I have some code that uses a Perl module and I would like to catch the
>> error "Can't locate <module>.pm in @INC" at runtime, give use user an
>> error message telling them they need to run the code on a different
>> machine, and exit gracefully.
>>
>> I have tried:
>>
>> no warnings FATAL
>> eval {use <module>}; warn $@ if $@;
>> BEGIN {$SIG{"__WARN__"} = sub {...};
>> try {use <module>;} catch {...};
>>
>> all to no avail. Am I messing up the syntax or is there something more
>> fundamental going on?
>>
>> Thanks for any and all help!!!!
>>
>> Janine
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Boulder-pm mailing list
>> Boulder-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm


From wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org  Tue Oct 20 14:26:01 2009
From: wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org (Walter Pienciak)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:26:01 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:50:09AM -0600, Devin Austin wrote:
> Hey all,
> I'm located in Denver, currently going to Metro State for Computer
> Forensics.  Do you guys have any sort of meetings planned out? Is there a
> schedule somewhere? I'd love to meet up with all of you.
> 
> -Devin "dhoss" Austin

Hey, Devin,

We don't typically schedule meetings.  Back when we did, they
were usually group hikes, as we all have plenty of screen time
and user groups already.

But nothing's carved in stone, and if there's interest at this
point . . .  We've met at members' companies, at the student
union at CU, at trailhead X.

Walter

From rise at knavery.net  Tue Oct 20 14:44:31 2009
From: rise at knavery.net (rise at knavery.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
Message-ID: <20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:26:01 -0600 Walter wrote: 

> We don't typically schedule meetings.  Back when we did, they were
> usually group hikes, as we all have plenty of screen time and user
> groups already.

For values of "hikes" including "Mind if we play through?" on the
South Boulder disc golf course.  I miss that in the Seattle PM.  :)

-- 
KL                        ~~//~~                     rise at knavery.net

From deandre at deandrecarroll.com  Tue Oct 20 14:56:04 2009
From: deandre at deandrecarroll.com (DeAndre Carroll)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:56:04 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
Message-ID: <4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>

Are there any events going on soon? Also, any interesting Perl projects 
going on out there? I could use a good dose of Perl geekiness.

rise at knavery.net wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:26:01 -0600 Walter wrote: 
>
>   
>> We don't typically schedule meetings.  Back when we did, they were
>> usually group hikes, as we all have plenty of screen time and user
>> groups already.
>>     
>
> For values of "hikes" including "Mind if we play through?" on the
> South Boulder disc golf course.  I miss that in the Seattle PM.  :)
>
>   

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From devin.austin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 14:56:38 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:56:38 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
Message-ID: <882b2e5f0910201456sbe2807hcb08868af9d3812a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM, <rise at knavery.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:26:01 -0600 Walter wrote:
>
> > We don't typically schedule meetings.  Back when we did, they were
> > usually group hikes, as we all have plenty of screen time and user
> > groups already.
>
> For values of "hikes" including "Mind if we play through?" on the
> South Boulder disc golf course.  I miss that in the Seattle PM.  :)
>
> --
> KL                        ~~//~~                     rise at knavery.net
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>

Well, you all have my vote to meet up for talks and such if in fact there is
interest.
-Devin

-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From devin.austin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 14:57:35 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:57:35 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net> 
	<4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>
Message-ID: <882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com>

2009/10/20 DeAndre Carroll <deandre at deandrecarroll.com>

>  Are there any events going on soon? Also, any interesting Perl projects
> going on out there? I could use a good dose of Perl geekiness.
>
> rise at knavery.net wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:26:01 -0600 Walter wrote:
>
>
>
>  We don't typically schedule meetings.  Back when we did, they were
> usually group hikes, as we all have plenty of screen time and user
> groups already.
>
>
>  For values of "hikes" including "Mind if we play through?" on the
> South Boulder disc golf course.  I miss that in the Seattle PM.  :)
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>

Hey DeAndre,
Loads of projects.  Everywhere.  Events, not so much.  I was sorta hoping we
could get some people together and hear some talks.  You know, sort of
*make* some events :-)

-Devin

-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From nagler at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 15:27:01 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:27:01 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
	<4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>
	<882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Devin, nice website.   Since you like pix and Perl, here's some
pictures I took recently of a Boulder Cyclocross event in Broomfield:

http://www.relgan.com/pub/2009cyclocross/

I always find it interesting that there's a lot of Perl in companies
in the area, but there are no Perl meetings.  Maybe we're all too busy
hacking, or taking pictures. ;-)

It's a bit cold for disc golf, but maybe some pool at the Foundry.  I
hear Walter has played pool once or twice. :)

Rob

From devin.austin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:29:12 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <3a9f8bfb0910201527v428f6cbj9ac23729921b054a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net> 
	<4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>
	<882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com> 
	<3a9f8bfb0910201527v428f6cbj9ac23729921b054a@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> Hi Devin, nice website.   Since you like pix and Perl, here's some
> pictures I took recently of a Boulder Cyclocross event in Broomfield:
>
> http://www.relgan.com/pub/2009cyclocross/
>
> I always find it interesting that there's a lot of Perl in companies
> in the area, but there are no Perl meetings.  Maybe we're all too busy
> hacking, or taking pictures. ;-)
>
> It's a bit cold for disc golf, but maybe some pool at the Foundry.  I
> hear Walter has played pool once or twice. :)
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>

Thanks Rob!
Nice pics, I need to get biking more. Hopefully my site will get "moar
betterer".  Linode++

-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From aviggio at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 15:31:50 2009
From: aviggio at bivio.biz (Alex Viggio)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:31:50 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
	<4ADE31F4.6010305@deandrecarroll.com>
	<882b2e5f0910201457y71833005r1fd1ae1a828d8997@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ADE3A56.8020103@bivio.biz>

The local Python user group has held a number of meetings at our office 
in North Boulder. Works well for a group up to about twenty. I could 
host a meeting after work if folks want to try that type of format out.

We share our plaza with several restaurants, making it a great location 
for a Perl+foodie meetup ;)

A hike would also be fun.

- Alex

From chutchin at geekboi.org  Tue Oct 20 15:32:53 2009
From: chutchin at geekboi.org (Charles Hutchinson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:32:53 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <882b2e5f0910201456sbe2807hcb08868af9d3812a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>
	<882b2e5f0910201456sbe2807hcb08868af9d3812a@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/10/20 Devin Austin <devin.austin at gmail.com>

>
> Well, you all have my vote to meet up for talks and such if in fact there
> is interest.
> -Devin
>

BLUG has a weekly hacking society meetup in southern Boulder every Thursday
where Thursday != 2nd Thurday of the month.  They are code agnostic but
there is at least one perl coder (VERY loose definition of the term) that
attends regularly in the darker colder months.

http://hackingsociety.org/


Charlie

-- 

Stephen Leacock<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/stephen_leacock.html>
- "I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some
day
die, which is not so."
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From nagler at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 15:37:36 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:37:36 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <3d4c74880910201532p195b4667y4ddb8642d6c4df31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>
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> there is at least one perl coder (VERY loose definition of the term) that
> attends regularly in the darker colder months.

You mean actual Perl CODE?  I thought we just played disc golf, ate,
and drank beer (when Randal Schwartz was here).

Rob

From deandre at deandrecarroll.com  Tue Oct 20 15:51:08 2009
From: deandre at deandrecarroll.com (DeAndre Carroll)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:51:08 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <3a9f8bfb0910201537q1f1375d6ue78aba5c7dd7a702@mail.gmail.com>
References: <882b2e5f0910191050r28cb91e5w9ae6384935149bb7@mail.gmail.com>	<20091020212600.GB25691@thunderdome.ieee.org>	<20091020.144431.71125098.kate@knavery.net>	<882b2e5f0910201456sbe2807hcb08868af9d3812a@mail.gmail.com>	<3d4c74880910201532p195b4667y4ddb8642d6c4df31@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a9f8bfb0910201537q1f1375d6ue78aba5c7dd7a702@mail.gmail.com>
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Ooooh! Perl code. Is there a place where people are posting info about 
Perl projects? It seems like Perl is buried in companies now where as it 
used to be the 800lb gorilla (or at least a smaller version). I mention 
that I'm a Perl programmer and am met with one of  2 reactions, fear or 
a reaction indicating that Perl is considered yesterday's news. I work 
for a company in Westminster that uses Perl exclusively with a pretty 
narrowly defined focus. I'd like to charge up  my gray matter by seeing 
what interesting approaches people are taking to solving problems with 
Perl. Been doing this for about 12 years now and want to try and stay fresh.

Rob Nagler wrote:
>> there is at least one perl coder (VERY loose definition of the term) that
>> attends regularly in the darker colder months.
>>     
>
> You mean actual Perl CODE?  I thought we just played disc golf, ate,
> and drank beer (when Randal Schwartz was here).
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
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From chutchin at geekboi.org  Tue Oct 20 15:51:50 2009
From: chutchin at geekboi.org (Charles Hutchinson)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:51:50 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
In-Reply-To: <3a9f8bfb0910201537q1f1375d6ue78aba5c7dd7a702@mail.gmail.com>
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Well that is the intent anyway.  Last week I spent most of the time helping
a friend get and Arduino dev board talking to the serial port on a laptop.

I am also up for some disc golf.  Just picked up the game from some clowns
up at the lake this summer.

Charlie


On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> > there is at least one perl coder (VERY loose definition of the term) that
> > attends regularly in the darker colder months.
>
> You mean actual Perl CODE?  I thought we just played disc golf, ate,
> and drank beer (when Randal Schwartz was here).
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
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From rise at knavery.net  Tue Oct 20 15:55:11 2009
From: rise at knavery.net (KL)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:55:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 Rob wrote: 

> You mean actual Perl CODE?  I thought we just played disc golf, ate,
> and drank beer (when Randal Schwartz was here).

Hmm, I think we complained about bad Perl code a few times?  You have
definitely both disc golfed & drunk beer with no Randal and I'm
calling Walter as witness.  I'd suggest a round when I'm back there
next week, but I suspect they've taken the chains down by now?

-- 
KL                        ~~//~~                     rise at knavery.net

From devin.austin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:54:34 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:54:34 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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2009/10/20 DeAndre Carroll <deandre at deandrecarroll.com>

>  Ooooh! Perl code. Is there a place where people are posting info about
> Perl projects? It seems like Perl is buried in companies now where as it
> used to be the 800lb gorilla (or at least a smaller version). I mention that
> I'm a Perl programmer and am met with one of  2 reactions, fear or a
> reaction indicating that Perl is considered yesterday's news. I work for a
> company in Westminster that uses Perl exclusively with a pretty narrowly
> defined focus. I'd like to charge up  my gray matter by seeing what
> interesting approaches people are taking to solving problems with Perl. Been
> doing this for about 12 years now and want to try and stay fresh.
>
>
> Rob Nagler wrote:
>
>  there is at least one perl coder (VERY loose definition of the term) that
> attends regularly in the darker colder months.
>
>
>  You mean actual Perl CODE?  I thought we just played disc golf, ate,
> and drank beer (when Randal Schwartz was here).
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing listBoulder-pm at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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I post regularly to Catalyzed.org.  That's got a lot of perly stuff on it.


-- 
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http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From bbearnes at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:56:16 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:56:16 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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2009/10/20 Charles Hutchinson <chutchin at geekboi.org>

> Well that is the intent anyway.  Last week I spent most of the time helping
> a friend get and Arduino dev board talking to the serial port on a laptop.
>

So this is kind of tentative, but I might be able to offer the SparkFun
facilities in Gunbarrel some evening, if there's any shortage of venues...

-- Brennen Bearnes
bbearnes at gmail.com
http://p1k3.com/
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From devin.austin at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 15:57:55 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:57:55 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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2009/10/20 Brennen Bearnes <bbearnes at gmail.com>

> 2009/10/20 Charles Hutchinson <chutchin at geekboi.org>
>
>> Well that is the intent anyway.  Last week I spent most of the time
>> helping a friend get and Arduino dev board talking to the serial port on a
>> laptop.
>>
>
> So this is kind of tentative, but I might be able to offer the SparkFun
> facilities in Gunbarrel some evening, if there's any shortage of venues...
>
> -- Brennen Bearnes
> bbearnes at gmail.com
> http://p1k3.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>

"SparkBarrel", that word alone sounds like it's full of win.

-- 
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From nagler at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 16:09:07 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:09:07 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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SparkFun!  I love gizmos...  I'm also trying to learn about building robots.

Rob

From aviggio at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 16:22:40 2009
From: aviggio at bivio.biz (Alex Viggio)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:22:40 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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Not to second a vote against our office, but I too would love to check 
out SparkFun if it were available for a meetup.

- Alex

From bbearnes at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 16:30:12 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:30:12 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Alex Viggio <aviggio at bivio.biz> wrote:

> Not to second a vote against our office, but I too would love to
> check out SparkFun if it were available for a meetup.

Well, I just talked to Nate (our CEO), and he's very much cool with
the idea. Said he'd be happy to give a tour and/or answer questions.
Nothing especially Perl-related about this, unless someone wants to
do a presentation on interacting with Arduino in Perl or something
along those lines (anybody doing this sort of thing?), but I can sure
put something together.

-- Brennen Bearnes
bbearnes at gmail.com
http://p1k3.com/

From wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org  Tue Oct 20 17:25:45 2009
From: wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org (Walter Pienciak)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:25:45 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 05:30:12PM -0600, Brennen Bearnes wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Alex Viggio <aviggio at bivio.biz> wrote:
> 
> > Not to second a vote against our office, but I too would love to
> > check out SparkFun if it were available for a meetup.
> 
> Well, I just talked to Nate (our CEO), and he's very much cool with
> the idea. Said he'd be happy to give a tour and/or answer questions.
> Nothing especially Perl-related about this, unless someone wants to
> do a presentation on interacting with Arduino in Perl or something
> along those lines (anybody doing this sort of thing?), but I can sure
> put something together.

Sounds to me like Spark Fun -- at their convenience -- for a
social meeting.  Brennen, if you can figure out what works for
you, whoever can make it can make it.  Maybe a reasonable agenda
would just to share what folks are working on or particulaarly
interested in at the moment.

Walter

From nagler at bivio.biz  Tue Oct 20 19:09:46 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:09:46 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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>  do a presentation on interacting with Arduino in Perl or something

Uh oh, I think I sense a shopping spree coming on...

I hate to ask this, but would it be ok if I brought one of my kids?
He's 12, and he's trying to learn how to build robots (along with his
dad).   He hasn't chosen a motherboard yet and the Arduino looks cool
-- although dad has a billion SBCs lying around.

Rob

From bbearnes at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 21:36:48 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:36:48 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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9 at 8:09 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> I hate to ask this, but would it be ok if I brought one of my kids?

Don't see why not. We could probably show him a few of the bots that
people have built in-house, although some of them are a bit
battle-scarred right now.

I assume people are generally ok with a weekday evening? Holler if not.
I'll talk to Nate and set a date tomorrow...

Brennen

From nagler at bivio.biz  Wed Oct 21 05:44:03 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:44:03 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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>  battle-scarred right now.

Battlebots?  Now you are going to make him drool. ;-)

>  I assume people are generally ok with a weekday evening? Holler if not.

Works for me.

Rob

From chutchin at geekboi.org  Wed Oct 21 06:30:46 2009
From: chutchin at geekboi.org (Charles Hutchinson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:30:46 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] Denvery Guy Wants His Perl Mongers Meeting Fix
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Any evening other than this one and Thursdays work for me at this point.

Thank you for setting this up.

Charlie

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> >  battle-scarred right now.
>
> Battlebots?  Now you are going to make him drool. ;-)
>
> >  I assume people are generally ok with a weekday evening? Holler if not.
>
> Works for me.
>
> Rob
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- "I detest life-insurance agents: they always argue that I shall some
day
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From bbearnes at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 16:00:18 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:00:18 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM / NCLUG meetup
	6:45pm, Monday, 11/2
Message-ID: <e1a925370910211600m5b4c0a1fo6e1cd799e5c993a7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

So, per recent discussion on this list:

What:

  We'll get a tour of SparkFun from Nate Seidle, do some
  Q&A if anyone's interested, and open things up for people to
  talk about what they're working on these days and generally
  socialize. Bonus points for gadget-related projects.

When:

  Monday, November 2nd at 6:45pm

Where:

  6175 Longbow Drive, Boulder, CO 80301.

Directions:

  http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/static.php?name=contact_us

  Front door should be open, come on upstairs.

Evelyn Mitchell mentioned that a few NCLUG folks might be
interested in coming up as well, so I'll separately extend
an invitation to that list.

Let me know if there're any questions.

-- Brennen Bearnes
bbearnes at gmail.com
(402) 360-4372

From nagler at bivio.biz  Wed Oct 21 16:04:07 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:04:07 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM / NCLUG
	meetup 6:45pm, Monday, 11/2
In-Reply-To: <e1a925370910211600m5b4c0a1fo6e1cd799e5c993a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1a925370910211600m5b4c0a1fo6e1cd799e5c993a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a9f8bfb0910211604w19a29545r4415ca62ac3f3afb@mail.gmail.com>

If you want, bivio can supply refreshments.  Would it be appropriate?

Rob

From devin.austin at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 16:21:11 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:21:11 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM / NCLUG
	meetup 6:45pm, Monday, 11/2
In-Reply-To: <3a9f8bfb0910211604w19a29545r4415ca62ac3f3afb@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> If you want, bivio can supply refreshments.  Would it be appropriate?
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>
Anyone else need to bring anything?


-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 21 16:40:52 2009
From: jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com (Jason Van Slyke)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:40:52 +0000
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM /
	NCLUG	meetup 6:45pm, Monday, 11/2
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I'm in and I can bring along something to throw on the table for snacks.
thx, Jason

From: devin.austin at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:21:11 -0600
To: boulder-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM / NCLUG	meetup 6:45pm, Monday, 11/2



On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:


If you want, bivio can supply refreshments.  Would it be appropriate?



Rob

_______________________________________________

Boulder-pm mailing list

Boulder-pm at pm.org

http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm

Anyone else need to bring anything?

-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
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From bbearnes at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 22:39:05 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:39:05 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Electronics tour + Boulder PM / NCLUG
	meetup 6:45pm, Monday, 11/2
In-Reply-To: <3a9f8bfb0910211604w19a29545r4415ca62ac3f3afb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1a925370910211600m5b4c0a1fo6e1cd799e5c993a7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<3a9f8bfb0910211604w19a29545r4415ca62ac3f3afb@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> If you want, bivio can supply refreshments. ?Would it be appropriate?

I don't see why not.  Be cool by me. :)

Brennen

From nagler at bivio.biz  Fri Oct 23 17:05:54 2009
From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:05:54 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Gets a Cease and Desist Letter
Message-ID: <19170.17634.703285.160836@ski.local>

This is a great way to make money, Sun!

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=300

Sorry guys.  If you need a great litigator, I know one. :-(

Rob

From devin.austin at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 17:22:14 2009
From: devin.austin at gmail.com (Devin Austin)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:22:14 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Gets a Cease and Desist Letter
In-Reply-To: <19170.17634.703285.160836@ski.local>
References: <19170.17634.703285.160836@ski.local>
Message-ID: <882b2e5f0910231722x24b20ecdmeebe50412a98d4e5@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> This is a great way to make money, Sun!
>
> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=300
>
> Sorry guys.  If you need a great litigator, I know one. :-(
>
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> Boulder-pm mailing list
> Boulder-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
>


This is madness. Got some bored lawyers it looks like.
-- 
Devin Austin
http://www.codedright.net
9702906669 - Cell
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From wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org  Fri Oct 23 20:45:25 2009
From: wpiencia at thunderdome.ieee.org (Walter Pienciak)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:45:25 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Gets a Cease and Desist Letter
In-Reply-To: <882b2e5f0910231722x24b20ecdmeebe50412a98d4e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19170.17634.703285.160836@ski.local>
	<882b2e5f0910231722x24b20ecdmeebe50412a98d4e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091024034525.GC20594@thunderdome.ieee.org>

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 06:22:14PM -0600, Devin Austin wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:
> 
> > This is a great way to make money, Sun!
> >
> > http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=300
> >
> > Sorry guys.  If you need a great litigator, I know one. :-(
> >
> > Rob
> > _______________________________________________
> > Boulder-pm mailing list
> > Boulder-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm
> >
> 
> 
> This is madness. Got some bored lawyers it looks like.

It made me think of the SCO stupidity a few years ago.  I'd hate
to think that once-great Sun has devolved to the point of
litigation-for-profit.

Walter

From carl.wagner at verbalworld.com  Mon Oct 26 10:45:22 2009
From: carl.wagner at verbalworld.com (Carl Wagner)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:45:22 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Gets a Cease and Desist Letter
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From bbearnes at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 12:29:36 2009
From: bbearnes at gmail.com (Brennen Bearnes)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:29:36 -0600
Subject: [Boulder.pm] SparkFun Gets a Cease and Desist Letter
In-Reply-To: <4AE5E032.1080209@verbalworld.com>
References: <19170.17634.703285.160836@ski.local>
	<882b2e5f0910231722x24b20ecdmeebe50412a98d4e5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20091024034525.GC20594@thunderdome.ieee.org>
	<4AE5E032.1080209@verbalworld.com>
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Hey all,

Thanks for the support. :)

I used to lug around boxes and server hardware for $8/hr down at Sun's
Broomfield campus. Met a bunch of good people there, though I'm guessing a
fair number of them have been let go since.

As far as protest goes, I think we'd get the most mileage out of blog posts
or friendly e-mails to anyone y'all know at Sun / SPARC International who
might have influence. As various people have pointed out, SPARC Int'l is its
own organization, albeit one with Sun as (presumably) its most influential
member.

Brennen

2009/10/26 Carl Wagner <carl.wagner at verbalworld.com>

> Cross posting to BLUG as they should know about the C&D as well.
>
> I have never done anything like this before, but how about doing a protest
> at Sun's office in Interlocken?
> Signs on sticks, hand out fliers as to why Sun is evil to do this and that
> SparkFun sells completely different products.
>
> I would think that several of the local LUG people would support this as
> well.  Possibly send an announcement to the EE,  CE and CS departments at
> CU, CSU, etc. about this.  Nate should be contacted to make sure he doesn't
> have an issue with it though.
>
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