From glim at mycybernet.net Sat Mar 19 11:41:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (glim@mycybernet.net) Date: Sat Mar 19 12:08:49 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open Message-ID: ----------> Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open. Conference dates: Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June 2005 Location: 89 Chestnut Street http://89chestnut.com/ University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada Info at: http://yapc.org/America Direct registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 Full registration fee $85 (USD) Book now for great deals on accommodations and ensure a space for yourself. Speaking slots are still open. If you would like to present at YAPC::NA 2005, see: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Details of this announcement: http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt <---------- More Details ============ Registration for YAPC::NA (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) 2005 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada is now open. The conference registration price is USD$85. This price includes admission to all aspects of the conference, respectable amounts of catering, several activities and a few conference goodies. The YAPC North America 2005 conference features... * Fantastic speakers + most are the core creators of the technology on which they present + many are professional IT authors, trainers and conference speakers * An excellent learning opportunity * A chance to meet Perl professionals from all over North America and the world + YAPC attendees tend to be very involved in Perl and so are another great way to learn more about what the language has to offer beyond just what the speakers have to say * Extra-curricular / after hours activities * A great location in downtown Toronto All this, and the price is more than an order of magnitude cheaper than what commercial conferences can offer. This is because YAPC is a 100% volunteer effort, both from its organizers and its speakers. Quality is *not* sacrificed to achieve this stunning level of affordability. YAPC provides the best value-for-dollar in IT conferences. And it's a ton of fun, too. The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location is 89 Chestnut Street in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced; we moved the conference date to accommodate venue availability.) http://89chestnut.com/ -- a facility within the University of Toronto If you are at all interested in attending the conference... Book now! Book now! Book now! We have room for about 400 attendees and we hope to sell out well in advance of the late June conference date. However, the critical matter is that of hotels. The YAPC::NA 2005 organizers have made group arrangements with several facilities around the city to provide _excellent_ quality accommodations in _very_ convenient locations at _terrific_ prices for the _full_ capacity of conference attendees (around 400 people). (Finding, booking and paying accommodations is the responsibility of the attendees, but we will provide you with a list of the hotels and university dorms to try first based on our group arrangement with them when you register for the conference. Also, see the web site at http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml. More details will be up shortly. The dorm option will be approx. C$55/night, the hotel options will be more like C$90/night, and for slightly different prices there will be options for putting more than 1 person in a room. Exact details and how to book will be emailed directly to people who have registered for the conference as soon as they become available.) *The catch is -- book now!!* The group reservations will expire in early May, at which point in time the group rates will mostly still apply, but the rooms will be given out on an "availability basis". Which means that someone else outside of the YAPC group can book the rooms as well. Make no mistake -- the rooms *will* be sold. Toronto is a very active conference city in the summer and there will be _no_ guarantee of vacancies either at the facilities we made arrangements with or anywhere else in the city if you leave it to within 6 weeks of the conference date. So, if you want to save yourself the likely-fruitless headache of scrambling around looking for accommodations at the last minute, Book now! Book now! Book now! Have any questions? Email na-help@yapc.org for more details. Additionally, we are still welcoming submissions for proposals via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm (Toronto time). If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author@yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor@yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. From stigliz at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 14:57:48 2005 From: stigliz at gmail.com (Amedeo Guffanti) Date: Tue Mar 22 14:57:56 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Reseach on Open Source Developers Message-ID: Hi, I'm Amedeo Guffanti, a 22 years old Italian student at Bocconi university in Milan, I' m doing a research to write a work about Open Source Movement, in particular, about the developers. I try to collect the opinions of developers like you. My little poll is at this page : http://www.alberocavo.com/OSSprojects.asp It takes less then 4 minutes. I hope the Open Source Communities will give me a help for my research. I apologize for taking your time and for my English that I hope it's understandable ^^ Sincerly, Amedeo Guffanti From nagler at bivio.biz Fri Mar 25 08:52:28 2005 From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler) Date: Fri Mar 25 08:52:44 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? Message-ID: <16964.16844.482838.40396@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Hi y'all, We just got our copy of Higher Order Perl (HOP) by Mark Jason Dominus. It might be nice to come together to discuss HOP. It's a very nice book about some interesting topics. Now that we have an actual office, I've been thinking about hosting meetings(!) here. If anybody is interested and/or alive, email this list so we can get an idea of this makes sense or not. Oh, the book's website (which contains chapters) is http://perl.plover.com/hop/ Rob From boulder-pm at jim-baker.com Fri Mar 25 09:18:28 2005 From: boulder-pm at jim-baker.com (Jim Baker) Date: Fri Mar 25 09:18:40 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <16964.16844.482838.40396@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <16964.16844.482838.40396@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <424447E4.9040903@jim-baker.com> Rob Nagler wrote: >Hi y'all, > >We just got our copy of Higher Order Perl (HOP) by Mark Jason Dominus. >It might be nice to come together to discuss HOP. It's a very nice >book about some interesting topics. > >Now that we have an actual office, I've been thinking about hosting >meetings(!) here. If anybody is interested and/or alive, email this >list so we can get an idea of this makes sense or not. >... > > Sounds like a good idea. HOP and specifically MJD's presentation on it at the first YAPC is what got me interested in Perl being viable for serious software development, as opposed to just useful scripting. And while I have since gone to the Python camp for my work-a-day life, HOP is very applicable to Python too. My only constraint is I will be out of the country starting Thursday for a couple of weeks. - Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/boulder-pm/attachments/20050325/bc76977a/attachment.htm From jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com Fri Mar 25 18:08:17 2005 From: jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com (Jason Van Slyke) Date: Fri Mar 25 18:08:30 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <16964.16844.482838.40396@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/boulder-pm/attachments/20050326/b1b3a9b8/attachment-0001.htm From paul_m_thompson at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 10:11:01 2005 From: paul_m_thompson at yahoo.com (Paul Thompson) Date: Thu Mar 31 10:11:15 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050331181101.43388.qmail@web51709.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rob Nagler wrote: > Hi y'all, [snip] > Now that we have an actual office, I've been > thinking about hosting > meetings(!) here. If anybody is interested and/or > alive, email this > list so we can get an idea of this makes sense or > not. Despite appearances & oders to the contrary, I am alive. __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From nagler at bivio.biz Thu Mar 31 11:59:28 2005 From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler) Date: Thu Mar 31 11:59:52 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <20050331181101.43388.qmail@web51709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050331181101.43388.qmail@web51709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <16972.22176.393718.363580@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Paul Thompson writes: > Despite appearances & oders to the contrary, I am > alive. That's excellent! I was so worried. Here's my tentative suggestion: Monday 4/25 8-9p If it gets really wild, we could stay up till 10p! Our office is at 2701 Iris Ave, Suite S, in the Willow Springs Shopping Center, which is located at the northwest corner of Iris and 28th in Boulder. The office entrance is on the southwest corner of the shopping center. We're right above Hair Elite. Enter on the south side (closest to Iris) of the building, right at the top of the stairs. You don't have to RSVP. The office is big enough. I won't arrange an LCD projector for now. It would be helpful if you would have already read the first few chapters of the book. We'll figure out the agenda at the meeting. Rob From jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com Thu Mar 31 15:21:58 2005 From: jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com (Jason Van Slyke) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:22:13 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <16972.22176.393718.363580@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/boulder-pm/attachments/20050331/dcef3dd8/attachment.htm From dt-boulder-pm at perlfreak.org Thu Mar 31 15:30:27 2005 From: dt-boulder-pm at perlfreak.org (Bradley C Bailey) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:30:31 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: References: <16972.22176.393718.363580@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <31334.66.151.174.123.1112311827.squirrel@lexical.perlfreak.org> > Hi Rob, > When I go to online link to the book all I get is the chapter contents > table, but no chapter body. Now, I admit, I only spent a couple minutes > there and maybe I missed something, but if the link to the chapter body is > there, it isn't obvious. > thx, Jason Look a little further down. It isn't available online yet http://perl.plover.com/hop/#free Bradley C Bailey From nagler at bivio.biz Thu Mar 31 15:34:39 2005 From: nagler at bivio.biz (Rob Nagler) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: References: <16972.22176.393718.363580@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <16972.35087.641203.876653@gargle.gargle.HOWL> > When I go to online link to the book all I get is the chapter > contents table, but no chapter body. Now, I admit, I only spent a > couple minutes there and maybe I missed something, but if the link > to the chapter body is there, it isn't obvious. Just below the Table of Contents, there are links sprinkled in the paragraph: http://perl.plover.com/hop/chap01.html Rob From keanansmith at techie.com Thu Mar 31 15:47:22 2005 From: keanansmith at techie.com (Keanan Smith) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:47:30 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? Message-ID: <20050331234722.91B6F4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Also if you try to order it from the link, it appears to be out of stock, which will make it rather difficult for those of us who don't already own the book to read it ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Nagler" To: boulder-pm@pm.org Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:34:39 -0700 > > > When I go to online link to the book all I get is the chapter > > contents table, but no chapter body. Now, I admit, I only spent a > > couple minutes there and maybe I missed something, but if the link > > to the chapter body is there, it isn't obvious. > > Just below the Table of Contents, there are links sprinkled in the > paragraph: > > http://perl.plover.com/hop/chap01.html > > Rob > > > _______________________________________________ > Boulder-pm mailing list > Boulder-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com Thu Mar 31 15:48:22 2005 From: jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com (Jason Van Slyke) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:48:31 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <31334.66.151.174.123.1112311827.squirrel@lexical.perlfreak.org> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/boulder-pm/attachments/20050331/746a647a/attachment.htm From jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com Thu Mar 31 15:50:39 2005 From: jason_van_slyke at hotmail.com (Jason Van Slyke) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:50:46 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: <20050331234722.91B6F4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/boulder-pm/attachments/20050331/7161f9a3/attachment.htm From keanansmith at techie.com Thu Mar 31 16:30:09 2005 From: keanansmith at techie.com (Keanan Smith) Date: Thu Mar 31 16:30:18 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? Message-ID: <20050401003009.2F0381F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Well, as the author of the book is part of the Amazon boycott, and I happen to agree with him, I'm fairly reluctant to buy his book from Amazon :) http://www.plover.com/~mjd/amazon.html -K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Van Slyke" To: boulder-pm@pm.org Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:50:39 +0000

check out Amazon, they have them in stock and used/new network has them for $40+

jvs

>From: "Keanan Smith"
>Reply-To: boulder-pm@pm.org
>To: boulder-pm@pm.org
>Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading?
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:47:22 -0700
>
>Also if you try to order it from the link, it appears to be out of stock, which will make it rather difficult for those of us who don't already own the book to read it ;)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rob Nagler"
>To: boulder-pm@pm.org
>Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading?
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:34:39 -0700
>
> >
> > > When I go to online link to the book all I get is the chapter
> > > contents table, but no chapter body. Now, I admit, I only spent a
> > > couple minutes there and maybe I missed something, but if the link
> > > to the chapter body is there, it isn't obvious.
> >
> > Just below the Table of Contents, there are links sprinkled in the
> > paragraph:
> >
> > http://perl.plover.com/hop/chap01.html
> >
> > Rob
> >
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>

check out Amazon, they have them in stock and used/new network > has them for $40+

>

jvs

>
>From: "Keanan Smith" >
>Reply-To: boulder-pm@pm.org >
>To: boulder-pm@pm.org >
>Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? >
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:47:22 -0700 >
> >
>Also if you try to order it from the link, it appears > to be out of stock, which will make it rather difficult for those > of us who don't already own the book to read it ;) >
> >
> >
>----- Original Message ----- >
>From: "Rob Nagler" >
>To: boulder-pm@pm.org >
>Subject: Re: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? >
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:34:39 -0700 >
> >
> > >
> > > When I go to online link to the book all I get is the chapter >
> > > contents table, but no chapter body. Now, I admit, > I only spent a >
> > > couple minutes there and maybe I missed something, > but if the link >
> > > to the chapter body is there, it isn't obvious. >
> > >
> > Just below the Table of Contents, there are links > sprinkled in the >
> > paragraph: >
> > >
> > http://perl.plover.com/hop/chap01.html >
> > >
> > Rob >
> > >
> > >
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> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Boulder-pm mailing list > > Boulder-pm@pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Boulder-pm mailing list > Boulder-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boulder-pm -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From spamthishomey-00 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 16:54:48 2005 From: spamthishomey-00 at yahoo.com (Zippy) Date: Thu Mar 31 16:54:59 2005 Subject: [Boulder.pm] Higher Order Perl book reading? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050401005449.41072.qmail@web53203.mail.yahoo.com> > Also if you try to order it from the link, it > appears to be out of stock, which will make it > rather difficult for those of us who don't already > own the book to read it ;) It is available at Bookpool: http://www.bookpool.com/.x/kw9tsxnbu1/ss?qs=higher%20order%20perl for $33.95. When I order from them, I use the USPS and recieve the package in 4 to 6 days even though Bookpool says it will probably be 10-15 days.