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From steve at deeden.co.uk  Fri Mar  1 07:22:03 2002
From: steve at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
Message-ID: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk>

Find the details at http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR01/

Steve

-- 
Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk

Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night
and there's nobody here.

From jasper at guideguide.com  Fri Mar  1 07:51:51 2002
From: jasper at guideguide.com (Jasper McCrea)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
References: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3C7F8777.9B3860D6@guideguide.com>

Steve Rushe wrote:
> 
> Find the details at http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR01/
> 
> Steve
> 
> --
> Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk
> 
> Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night
> and there's nobody here.

-- 
Melvin: Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama
        City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day 
        and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace 
        else. We're all stocked up here.

From jasper at guideguide.com  Fri Mar  1 07:53:16 2002
From: jasper at guideguide.com (Jasper McCrea)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
References: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk> <3C7F8777.9B3860D6@guideguide.com>
Message-ID: <3C7F87CC.B099E295@guideguide.com>

Jasper McCrea wrote:
> 
> Steve Rushe wrote:
> >
> > Find the details at http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR01/
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --

when I said nothing, what I meant to say was

AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jasp
-- 
Melvin: Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama
        City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day 
        and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace 
        else. We're all stocked up here.

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Fri Mar  1 08:27:11 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
In-Reply-To: <3C7F87CC.B099E295@guideguide.com>; from Jasper McCrea on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 01:53:16PM +0000
References: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk> <3C7F8777.9B3860D6@guideguide.com> <3C7F87CC.B099E295@guideguide.com>
Message-ID: <20020301142711.B2917@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 01:53:16PM +0000, Jasper McCrea wrote:
> Jasper McCrea wrote:
> > 
> > Steve Rushe wrote:
> > >
> > > Find the details at http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR01/
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --
> 
> when I said nothing, what I meant to say was
> 
> AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bah. I am having trouble breaking the 150 barrier. On my first go. And
that is it for today. I won't try until tomorrow, on my own time.
Honest.

m.

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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Fri Mar  1 12:49:41 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
In-Reply-To: <20020301142711.B2917@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from Stray Toaster on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:27:11PM +0000
References: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk> <3C7F8777.9B3860D6@guideguide.com> <3C7F87CC.B099E295@guideguide.com> <20020301142711.B2917@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020301184941.A7103@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> 
> Bah. I am having trouble breaking the 150 barrier. On my first go. And
> that is it for today. I won't try until tomorrow, on my own time.

OK, so with fiddlin I got 120. And not one regex. I can almost see the
1 while s///e solution, it is just filling in the blanks...

m.
-- 
I have learned there are troubles of more than one kind
Some come from ahead and some come from behind
But I've bought a big bat I'm all ready, you see
Now my troubles are going to have troubles with ME!

From andrew-dated-1015442840.8cea3f at rivendale.net  Fri Mar  1 13:27:20 2002
From: andrew-dated-1015442840.8cea3f at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Latest Perl Review Golf starts
In-Reply-To: <20020301184941.A7103@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020301132203.GA76531@deeden.co.uk> <3C7F8777.9B3860D6@guideguide.com> <3C7F87CC.B099E295@guideguide.com> <20020301142711.B2917@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020301184941.A7103@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020301192720.GA1334@gandalf>

On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 06:49:41PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:27:11PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> > 
> > Bah. I am having trouble breaking the 150 barrier. On my first go. And
> > that is it for today. I won't try until tomorrow, on my own time.
> 
> OK, so with fiddlin I got 120. And not one regex. I can almost see the
> 1 while s///e solution, it is just filling in the blanks...

I'm currently heading up the beginners board with 96.  which is more
than 30 off form :-(

cheers

Andrew

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Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Head & Rotor VE(CHINA-LuTong) 03/03
Message-ID: <200203031320.g23DKMO05610@mail.pm.org>

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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sun Mar  3 14:31:32 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [upload@p11.speed-link.de: CPAN Upload: I/ID/IDORU/WWW-UsePerl-Journal-0.05.tar.gz]
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From karen at kasei.com  Wed Mar  6 07:19:27 2002
From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
Message-ID: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com>

Hello,

Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
planning on speaking at this?

-- 
Karen

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Wed Mar  6 07:24:38 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020306132438.A7481@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> planning on speaking at this?

*choke* No, not unless my name has magically become Steve Rushe, I don't
think I will. Tho if I come up with something over the next few days,
then yes.

I fancy a round table discussion amongst everyone on The Secrets Of Golf
or How I Stop Worrying and Came to Love @F'

m.
-- 
No, YOU shut up

From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com  Wed Mar  6 07:49:36 2002
From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast))
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE289@BELFAST2>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:25 PM Marc whittered incoherently
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> > planning on speaking at this?
> 
> *choke* No, not unless my name has magically become Steve 
> Rushe, I don't think I will. Tho if I come up with something over
> the next few days, then yes.

Weren't you supposed to be "parrotin' on".  You've been avoiding this
ever since you 'volunteered' to do it ;-)
 
> I fancy a round table discussion amongst everyone on The 
> Secrets Of Golf or How I Stop Worrying and Came to Love @F'

Whatever, golf is pretty much a hands up in the code up to your elbows
kind of a thing. don't you think?

Oh BTW, since Karen and yourself have both posted does this mean Kasei
now has working internet connection?

cheers

Andrew

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Wed Mar  6 07:55:06 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE289@BELFAST2>; from Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:49:36PM -0000
References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE289@BELFAST2>
Message-ID: <20020306135506.B7481@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:49:36PM -0000, Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote:
> Weren't you supposed to be "parrotin' on".  You've been avoiding this
> ever since you 'volunteered' to do it ;-)

I was, but then they got all obscure, and deeper than I had time to
devote to it, so I skim the perl6-internals list now and again, marvel
at their brains, then continue on with my life. So, I feel I wouldn't do
the subject justice if I had to speak on it. In fact, I would probably
murder it with hamfisted attempts at explaining it. However, I promise
to do a talk, sometime, when I can find something to speak on.

Tho, I am sure Mr. Bunce could do this for us, if we wanted, and we do.
Well, I do. 

Huh, Tim, huh, couldya, couldya?

m.

-- 
I have learned there are troubles of more than one kind
Some come from ahead and some come from behind
But I've bought a big bat I'm all ready, you see
Now my troubles are going to have troubles with ME!

From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com  Wed Mar  6 08:24:34 2002
From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast))
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE28B@BELFAST2>

On Wed, March 06, 2002 1:55 PM Marc wrote
> > Weren't you supposed to be "parrotin' on".  You've been avoiding
> > this ever since you 'volunteered' to do it ;-)
> 
> I was, but then they got all obscure, and deeper than I had time to
> devote to it, so I skim the perl6-internals list now and again, marvel
> at their brains, then continue on with my life. So, I feel I 
> wouldn't do the subject justice if I had to speak on it. In fact, I
> would probably murder it with hamfisted attempts at explaining it.

Oh alright then, since you put it like that.  Did you read TPR this month
Dan has a really good article about it in there.

> However, I promise to do a talk, sometime, when I can find something
> to speak on.

We'll get you a platform or an orange box at least (does that help?)
 
> Tho, I am sure Mr. Bunce could do this for us, if we wanted, 
> and we do.
> Well, I do. 
> 
> Huh, Tim, huh, couldya, couldya?

are we there yet?
are we there yet?
are we there yet?
are we there yet?

cheers

Andrew
-- 
This email has been brought to you by the letter pi and the number 3.14159

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Wed Mar  6 09:12:40 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE28B@BELFAST2>; from Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 02:24:34PM -0000
References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE28B@BELFAST2>
Message-ID: <20020306151240.B8862@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 02:24:34PM -0000, Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote:
> Oh alright then, since you put it like that.  Did you read TPR this month
> Dan has a really good article about it in there.

which reminds me to fix PDF, wot I broked on my machine at home.
> 
> We'll get you a platform or an orange box at least (does that help?)

I could wear my high-heels if we have the meeting on a weekend.

m.
-- 
Ever since I could talk
I've been ordered to listen

From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Thu Mar  7 11:02:57 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Name suggestions
Message-ID: <20020307170257.A30928@futureless.org>

My final year project is coming along, slowly but surely. I have a
development name for it, but it is too cheesy [0] to use for the release.
My project is a CMS [1] with customisation, themes and a plugin API, 
and is written in mod_perl. Any suggestions for names?

[0] Apache::Onanox. Shoot me.
[1] CMS = content management system
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |       Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sun Mar 10 04:07:28 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Name suggestions
In-Reply-To: <20020307170257.A30928@futureless.org>
References: <20020307170257.A30928@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020310100728.A6494@futureless.org>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:02:57PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> Any suggestions for names?

Two suggestions so far: from Dave Wilson, "Russell's Ranchy Sex Site 
backend" and from Scott McWhirter, "Apache::Teller"

Anyone care to make another suggestion, or tell me why either of these
might be a good name to put to my degree work...?
-- 
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sun Mar 10 07:47:22 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> planning on speaking at this?

If there was going to be a meeting this month, it'd be tomorrow night,
right? Do we have a venue yet? Is it still going to happen?

Happy Mother's Day, if my mother is reading this...
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |                   What is in doubt?
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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Sun Mar 10 08:46:08 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Name suggestions
In-Reply-To: <20020310100728.A6494@futureless.org>; from Russell Matbouli on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:28AM +0000
References: <20020307170257.A30928@futureless.org> <20020310100728.A6494@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020310144608.A7437@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:07:28AM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:02:57PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > Any suggestions for names?
> 
> Two suggestions so far: from Dave Wilson, "Russell's Ranchy Sex Site 
> backend" and from Scott McWhirter, "Apache::Teller"

Ranchy like Henry Fonda?

m.


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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sun Mar 10 09:01:54 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [davemw@yahoo.com: Re: Name suggestions]
Message-ID: <20020310150154.B6982@futureless.org>

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From davemw at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 10 10:24:42 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [davemw@yahoo.com: Re: Name suggestions]
In-Reply-To: <20020310150154.B6982@futureless.org>
References: <20020310150154.B6982@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020310162442.A930@dw>

> I think Dave meant to reply to the list. Dave, you need to CC the list
> when you reply to mails here. It's not like BLUG. It has caught me out
> (both ways) on a few occasions :)

I didn't ;).


--
do eat(shroom,15),sleep(60*15); while (! visual); sleep(86400);

From swm at swmcc.com  Mon Mar 11 05:19:12 2002
From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org>; from russell-belfast-pm@futureless.org on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 01:47:22PM +0000
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com>

On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 01:47:22PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> > planning on speaking at this?
> 
> If there was going to be a meeting this month, it'd be tomorrow night,
> right? Do we have a venue yet? Is it still going to happen?

Where is the venue for tonight then?

Thanks,

-- 
Stephen McCullough                              http://www.swmcc.com 

From karen at kasei.com  Mon Mar 11 08:50:29 2002
From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com>
Message-ID: <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com>

On Mon Mar 11 11:19:12 2002, Stephen McCullough wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 01:47:22PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > > Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> > > planning on speaking at this?
> > 
> > If there was going to be a meeting this month, it'd be tomorrow night,
> > right? Do we have a venue yet? Is it still going to happen?
> 
> Where is the venue for tonight then?

I think we should postpone tonight's meeting - maybe have this next
Monday night instead?  

-- 
Karen

From karen at kasei.com  Mon Mar 11 08:56:05 2002
From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020311145605.GB30091@soto.kasei.com>

On Mon Mar 11 14:50:29 2002, Karen Pauley wrote:
> On Mon Mar 11 11:19:12 2002, Stephen McCullough wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 01:47:22PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > > > Are we going to have a meeting next Monday night?  Is Marc still
> > > > planning on speaking at this?
> > > 
> > > If there was going to be a meeting this month, it'd be tomorrow night,
> > > right? Do we have a venue yet? Is it still going to happen?
> > 
> > Where is the venue for tonight then?
> 
> I think we should postpone tonight's meeting - maybe have this next
> Monday night instead? 

Actually next Monday night won't work either as it's a stat day.

-- 
Karen

From andrew-dated-1016290783.901540 at rivendale.net  Mon Mar 11 08:59:43 2002
From: andrew-dated-1016290783.901540 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:50:29PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > Where is the venue for tonight then?
> 
> I think we should postpone tonight's meeting - maybe have this next
> Monday night instead?  

Next Monday night is the Blug meeting.  Marty is speaking at it if I'm
not mistaken.

cheers

andrew
-- 
Virgo: (Aug. 23 - Sept. 22)
Anger and frustration overtake you when you decide that if you cannot
have Betty Rubble, no man will.
(c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved.

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Mon Mar 11 09:01:50 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf>; from Andrew Wilson on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:59:43PM +0000
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com> <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf>
Message-ID: <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:59:43PM +0000, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:50:29PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote:
> > > Where is the venue for tonight then?
> > 
> > I think we should postpone tonight's meeting - maybe have this next
> > Monday night instead?  
> 
> Next Monday night is the Blug meeting.  Marty is speaking at it if I'm
> not mistaken.

Oh, and as Karen said, that is a stat day, so I presume most people will
be off. As for the BLUG, well, I gave plenty of notice that that was the
date, can I help it if no-one picked up on it?

Russell, you are in ultimate charge, so it is your fault.

m.

-- 
So they went off together. But wherever
they go, and whatever happens to them on the way,
in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest
a little boy and his Bear will always be playing.

From perl.belfast at kasei.com  Tue Mar 12 05:18:37 2002
From: perl.belfast at kasei.com (Marty)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com> <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf> <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:59:43PM +0000, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> 
> Next Monday night is the Blug meeting.  Marty is speaking at it if I'm
> not mistaken.

Since I was supposed to be talking about Perl at the Blug, I suggest
that we have a combined meeting of BLUG and Belfast.pm.

-- 
Marty
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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Tue Mar 12 05:19:52 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com>; from Marty on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:18:37AM +0000
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com> <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf> <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020312111952.S22307@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:18:37AM +0000, Marty wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:59:43PM +0000, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> > 
> > Next Monday night is the Blug meeting.  Marty is speaking at it if I'm
> > not mistaken.
> 
> Since I was supposed to be talking about Perl at the Blug, I suggest
> that we have a combined meeting of BLUG and Belfast.pm.

But that doesn't mean that Steve gets out of his talk, oh no. As I
really want to hear it! (that is the sugar, Steve, you are great you
are.)

m.


-- 
What does it profit a man to gain the whole world if he loses his soul?
Matthew 16:26

From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com  Tue Mar 12 06:16:51 2002
From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast))
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE299@BELFAST2>

hi

Marc siad this:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:18:37AM +0000, Marty wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:59:43PM +0000, Andrew Wilson wrote:
> > Since I was supposed to be talking about Perl at the Blug, I suggest
> > that we have a combined meeting of BLUG and Belfast.pm.
> 
> But that doesn't mean that Steve gets out of his talk, oh no. As I
> really want to hear it! (that is the sugar, Steve, you are great you
> are.)

It's taking almost an hour for me to get email sent to belfast.pm

This sucks, wasn't someone supposed to be sorting out an alternative server?

cheers

Andrew

From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com  Tue Mar 12 06:51:48 2002
From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast))
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE29A@BELFAST2>

Hi

> Andrew said:
> > It's taking almost an hour for me to get email sent to belfast.pm
> > 
> > This sucks, wasn't someone supposed to be sorting out an 
> > alternative server?
> 
> I think it was agreed to "let Russell do it", I was on the 
> phone to Russell
> last nite, as well as being bogged down with his finals he's 
> got no net
> access in the house so he may not be able to do it anytime 
> soon. I've a
> debian box connected to a dsl line here doing nothing more 
> than running an
> expect script every 5 minutes to flush a mail queue, if 
> anyone wants access
> to that to have a craic at running ezmlm/listserv/whatever 
> they're more than
> welcome.

I'll have a go at that.  Contact me off list with the details
you can send it to andrew@rivendale.net

I'm in Birmingham until tomorrow evening, so I won't be able
to look at it til then.

cheers

Andrew

From russell-blug at futureless.org  Tue Mar 12 06:57:37 2002
From: russell-blug at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com> <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf> <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020312125737.B12632@futureless.org>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:18:37AM +0000, Marty wrote:
> Since I was supposed to be talking about Perl at the Blug, I suggest
> that we have a combined meeting of BLUG and Belfast.pm.

Excellent idea!

Marc wrote:
> Russell, you are in ultimate charge, so it is your fault.

Damnit Jim, I'm a chairman, not a deity!

Dave, can you put this on the site then, please? Marc, what's the venue?
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |                 I'll remove the cause
russell@futureless.org |                  but not the symptoms
PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4  |
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Tue Mar 12 06:58:25 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE299@BELFAST2>
References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE299@BELFAST2>
Message-ID: <20020312125825.C12632@futureless.org>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:16:51PM -0000, Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote:
> It's taking almost an hour for me to get email sent to belfast.pm

It takes me 20 minutes. If you're at the top of the mailing list list,
then you get them immediately. If you're at the bottom, well, you
know...

> This sucks, wasn't someone supposed to be sorting out an alternative server?

"Let Russell do it"? I spoke to Tony but we kinda left it up in the air.
We're both lazy ;) I think Tony said he was looking at using ...
mailman? Any word, Tony? The offer still stands, but I'd leave it until
after easter because we're scheduling some downtime for then...
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |                     Do it yourself
PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4  |
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From russell-blug at futureless.org  Tue Mar 12 07:07:28 2002
From: russell-blug at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020312130657.L22307@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020306131927.GC31260@soto.kasei.com> <20020310134722.A6790@futureless.org> <20020311111912.A25076@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020311145029.GA30091@soto.kasei.com> <20020311145943.GA1680@gandalf> <20020311150150.S15436@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020312111837.GA7867@soto.kasei.com> <20020312125737.B12632@futureless.org> <20020312130657.L22307@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020312130728.E12632@futureless.org>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:06:57PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> I dunno, a tacky rock club for picking up tarts?
> 
> Aside from that attempt at humour, I dunno.
> 
> Russell, what's the venue?

A tacky rock club for picking up heavy metal tarts (so I've heard)?

I thought the role of "Talks Organiser" would have included organising 
venues... I really can't organise it because I have a test today, two
pieces of coursework for this week and another for Monday :( But it's
your job anyway!
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |                      Be valuable
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From tony at kasei.com  Tue Mar 12 09:08:49 2002
From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [BLUG] Re: Next week's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20020312125825.C12632@futureless.org>
References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE299@BELFAST2> <20020312125825.C12632@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020312150849.GA11175@soto.kasei.com>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:58:25PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> "Let Russell do it"? I spoke to Tony but we kinda left it up in the air.
> We're both lazy ;) I think Tony said he was looking at using ...
> mailman? Any word, Tony? The offer still stands, but I'd leave it until
> after easter because we're scheduling some downtime for then...

If you'd like to do it, then go right ahead!

Tony

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Wed Mar 13 06:02:27 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] HTML-Calendar-Simple
Message-ID: <20020313120227.B5769@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

It is on its way to CPAN. I apologise for it now.

You can find it currently at

www.stray-toaster.co.uk/HTML-Calendar-Simple-0.01.tar.gz

Comments, no matter how dour, welcomed with open and begrudging arms.

m.
-- 
And I find it kinda funny
And I find it kinda sad
These dreams in which I'm dying
Are the best I've everhad

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Wed Mar 13 14:25:11 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: CPAN Question
Message-ID: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

Guys.

When did this 'view reported bugs' link appear on a module details page
on CPAN?

Consider:

http://rt.cpan.org/NoAuth/Bugs.html?Dist=HTML-Calendar-Simple-0.01

And how come I get that bug? I am intrigued. I will mail the Authorities
soon, if no-one here can answer and spare me any bluches and lookig
stoopid in front of Them.

At least you lot *know* I am stoopid...

m.

-- 
I didn't have to use my AK
Today was A Good Day

From schwern at pobox.com  Wed Mar 13 14:44:04 2002
From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: CPAN Question
In-Reply-To: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020313204404.GA3311@blackrider>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:25:11PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> Guys.
> 
> When did this 'view reported bugs' link appear on a module details page
> on CPAN?

rt.cpan.org appeared as an experiment a few months ago.


> Consider:
> 
> http://rt.cpan.org/NoAuth/Bugs.html?Dist=HTML-Calendar-Simple-0.01
> 
> And how come I get that bug? I am intrigued. I will mail the Authorities
> soon, if no-one here can answer and spare me any bluches and lookig
> stoopid in front of Them.

Maybe RT is just lagging a little behind the CPAN uploads.  Knowing
the Authority in question he won't point and laugh at you.


-- 

Michael G. Schwern   <schwern@pobox.com>    http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/
Perl Quality Assurance	    <perl-qa@perl.org>	       Kwalitee Is Job One
"Please hold while reality is adjusted to match my ideal world."
	-- njt

From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk  Wed Mar 13 16:21:54 2002
From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: CPAN Question
In-Reply-To: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020313222154.GA99675@deeden.co.uk>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:25:11PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> Guys.
> 
> When did this 'view reported bugs' link appear on a module details page
> on CPAN?

Well as Mike says rt.cpan.org has been around a while, but the link only
reappeared in the last few weeks AFAIK, although it was there before for
a brief period.

I can report that test bug if you want to get you off the ground ;)

Steve

-- 
Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk

Dotcom Optionaire

From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Thu Mar 14 04:16:51 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: CPAN Question
In-Reply-To: <20020313222154.GA99675@deeden.co.uk>; from Steve Rushe on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 05:21:54PM -0500
References: <20020313202511.A12916@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020313222154.GA99675@deeden.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020314101651.C19719@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 05:21:54PM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:25:11PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> > Guys.
> > 
> > When did this 'view reported bugs' link appear on a module details page
> > on CPAN?
> 
> Well as Mike says rt.cpan.org has been around a while, but the link only
> reappeared in the last few weeks AFAIK, although it was there before for
> a brief period.
> 
> I can report that test bug if you want to get you off the ground ;)

version 0.02 is on its way now, and all that is changed is added to the
prerequisites is

Test::More 0.40 and
CGI 2.752

That oughta keep you quiet for a bit.

m.

-- 
My money don't jingle
 --said by me to Jane Doe before I realised it

From jasper at guideguide.com  Fri Mar 22 11:09:40 2002
From: jasper at guideguide.com (Jasper McCrea)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: belfast golf
Message-ID: <3C9B6554.800D39E7@guideguide.com>

Keeping in practice a bit for the next Perl Review golf..

given command line number, print out it's factors like

2 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5

You get the idea.
Also has to handle 0 and 1. I'm guessing printint 0 and 1 would be the
correct answers.

I would tell my current score, but I only just thought of it a little
while ago, and it would give you something to aim for.

Jasper
-- 
split//,"hrja8sp7 aknouthder? p+er.l  haack er";$b=
sub{print$_[$i]if$i++%3};&$b..&$b&&&$b while$_[$i];print$/

From jasper at guideguide.com  Fri Mar 22 11:16:12 2002
From: jasper at guideguide.com (Jasper McCrea)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: belfast golf
References: <3C9B6554.800D39E7@guideguide.com>
Message-ID: <3C9B66DC.49BD221F@guideguide.com>

Jasper McCrea wrote:
> 
> Keeping in practice a bit for the next Perl Review golf..
> 
> given command line number, print out it's factors like
> 

did I say it's? I meant its. Jesus.

Jasper
-- 
split//,"hrja8sp7 aknouthder? p+er.l  haack er";$b=
sub{print$_[$i]if$i++%3};&$b..&$b&&&$b while$_[$i];print$/

From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com  Mon Mar 25 04:35:19 2002
From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast))
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: belfast golf
Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE2B3@BELFAST2>

Hi

On: 22 March 2002 17:10 Jasper McCrea [mailto:jasper@guideguide.com] wrote:
> Keeping in practice a bit for the next Perl Review golf..
> 
> given command line number, print out it's factors like
> 
> 2 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5
> 
> You get the idea.
> Also has to handle 0 and 1. I'm guessing printint 0 and 1 would be the
> correct answers.

Actually no. I don't get the idea, what's it supposed to be printing?
why is 

3 x 4 x 4 x 5

Not the right answer to the example you've given.  What number is it
factors for anyway?

cheers

Andrew

From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk  Mon Mar 25 05:32:08 2002
From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: belfast golf
In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE2B3@BELFAST2>; from Andrew.Wilson@trw.com on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:35:19AM -0000
References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE2B3@BELFAST2>
Message-ID: <20020325113208.A9316@blackstar.co.uk>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:35:19AM -0000, Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On: 22 March 2002 17:10 Jasper McCrea [mailto:jasper@guideguide.com] wrote:
> > Keeping in practice a bit for the next Perl Review golf..
> > 
> > given command line number, print out it's factors like
> > 
> > 2 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5
>
> Actually no. I don't get the idea, what's it supposed to be printing?
> why is 
> 
> 3 x 4 x 4 x 5
> 

Well I think you're both wrong. I think Jasper means
  2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 3 x 5 = 240

I presume we're really supposed to be getting prime factors for the
number. Really some people!

Steve

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From Gouranga  Tue Mar 26 04:47:33 2002
From: Gouranga (Gouranga)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Call Out Gouranga Be Happy
Message-ID: <200203261050.g2QAoEY04197@mail.pm.org>

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From Belfast-PM at stripey.com  Wed Mar 27 15:07:17 2002
From: Belfast-PM at stripey.com (Smylers)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Prime Factors Golf
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203272100240.2485-100000@penguin>

An algorithm for finding prime factors occurred to be while lying in bed
this morning.  I seem to've mislaid the mail suggesting this as a golf
challenge, but this what I've come up with for 77:

  #! /usr/bin/perl
  $%=pop;$/=2;$%%$/&&$/++or$%/=$/,push@%,$/while$%>1;@%or@%=$%;$,=' x ';print@%

Sample use:

  $ ./factors 84
  2 x 2 x 3 x 7

Smylers


From liyang at nerv.cx  Wed Mar 27 20:15:07 2002
From: liyang at nerv.cx (Liyang Hu)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:34 2004
Subject: Prime Factors Golf
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203272100240.2485-100000@penguin>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203272100240.2485-100000@penguin>
Message-ID: <20020328021507.GA21475@cam.ac.uk>

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:07:17PM +0000, Smylers wrote:
> An algorithm for finding prime factors occurred to be while lying
> in bed this morning.

> #! /usr/bin/perl
> $%=pop;$/=2;$%%$/&&$/++or$%/=$/,push@%,$/while$%>1;@%or@%=$%;$,=' x ';print@%
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^
Why do you need that bit? I wouldn't bother, at least not by my
definition of `factorisation', or what a factor is.

Also, if you're willing to dispense with the spaces between the
factors, you can shave off a further, not 2, but 4 strokes: (Thanks
to Tony for that one.)

> $%=pop;$/=2;$%%$/&&$/++or$%/=$/,push@%,$/while$%>1;$,=x;print@%

63 strokes. ^_^

/Liyang
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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Thu Mar 28 10:01:00 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: new compo.
Message-ID: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

Hey,

I want to see someone write a fantastic fork bomb. All mine tend to be
pretty useless.

And it should dump some random thing to STDOUT as well, I think. By the
rules of fork bombing. [1]

m.

[1] Yes, this could all be in my head again.
-- 
What does it profit a man to gain the whole world if he loses his soul?
Matthew 16:26

From davemw at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 28 12:12:52 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: new compo.
In-Reply-To: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020328181252.A5789@dw>

Lying half-unconcious, Stray giggled: 
> Hey,
> 
> I want to see someone write a fantastic fork bomb. All mine tend to be
> pretty useless.
> 
> And it should dump some random thing to STDOUT as well, I think. By the
> rules of fork bombing. [1]

I know it's not in perl, but this _totally_ killed my system.
sh-2.05# uptime
  6:09pm  up 7 min,  3 users,  load average: 120.19, 90.43, 38.59

(single CPU)

   #include <sys/types.h>
   #include <unistd.h>

   int main () {
      while (malloc(1024 * 1024 * 32))
         fork();
   }

Have a nice --20 'd top and sh running to observe :)

There's also the old "$0&&$0" sh bomb, but sh is so slow it can be stopped
pretty easily.

--
A little girl goes to the barber shop with her father. She stands next to the
barber's chair, eating a cake while her dad gets his hair cut. The barber
smiles at her and says, "Sweetheart, you're going to get hair on your muffin."

"I know," she replies. "I'm going to get tits too."

From Belfast-PM at stripey.com  Thu Mar 28 14:57:59 2002
From: Belfast-PM at stripey.com (Smylers)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Prime Factors Golf
In-Reply-To: <20020328021507.GA21475@cam.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203282054500.691-100000@penguin>

Liyang Hu wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:07:17PM +0000, Smylers wrote:
>
> > $%=pop;$/=2;$%%$/&&$/++or$%/=$/,push@%,$/while$%>1;@%or@%=$%;$,=' x ';print@%
>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^
> Why do you need that bit? I wouldn't bother, at least not by my
> definition of `factorisation', or what a factor is.

I think it was part of the spec that it should cope with any integer
from 0 or above, with 0 and 1 just emitting themselves respectively.

> Also, if you're willing to dispense with the spaces between the
> factors,

Yeah, I wasn't sure about those.  Unfortunately I've lost the spec, but
I think there were spaces in the sample output.

> you can shave off a further, not 2, but 4 strokes: (Thanks to Tony for
> that one.)

Cunning.

> > $%=pop;$/=2;$%%$/&&$/++or$%/=$/,push@%,$/while$%>1;$,=x;print@%
>
> 63 strokes. ^_^

Smylers


From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Fri Mar 29 03:14:37 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: new compo.
In-Reply-To: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020329091437.A5582@futureless.org>

On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:01:00PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> I want to see someone write a fantastic fork bomb. All mine tend to be
> pretty useless.

http://slab.org/forkbomb.pl

> And it should dump some random thing to STDOUT as well, I think. By the
> rules of fork bombing. [1]

This one won an arty competition.
-- 
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russell@futureless.org |                      Be accurate
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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Fri Mar 29 03:49:07 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: new compo.
In-Reply-To: <20020329091437.A5582@futureless.org>; from Russell Matbouli on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 09:14:37AM +0000
References: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020329091437.A5582@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020329094907.B10667@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 09:14:37AM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:01:00PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> > I want to see someone write a fantastic fork bomb. All mine tend to be
> > pretty useless.
> 
> http://slab.org/forkbomb.pl
> 
> > And it should dump some random thing to STDOUT as well, I think. By the
> > rules of fork bombing. [1]
> 
> This one won an arty competition.

As pointed out by Jasp yesterday, to which I said, yes, this is what put
me in mind of it.

What, you think *I* had an original idea?

m.


-- 
And I find it kinda funny
And I find it kinda sad
These dreams in which I'm dying
Are the best I've everhad

From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Fri Mar 29 04:57:34 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: new compo.
In-Reply-To: <20020329094907.B10667@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020328160100.O32367@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020329091437.A5582@futureless.org> <20020329094907.B10667@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020329105734.C5582@futureless.org>

On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 09:49:07AM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> As pointed out by Jasp yesterday, to which I said, yes, this is what put
> me in mind of it.

I musta missed that mail. My box was down at the time...

> What, you think *I* had an original idea?

use John::Lennon::Quote qw/imagine/;
-- 
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sat Mar 30 07:17:43 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
Message-ID: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org>

Hello,
According to the DBI FAQ, it isn't possible to create a database using
it. What is the preferred way of creating a MySQL database and
populating it (in a unix-like environment)? Is the only other way to
push a CREATE statement into a call to the 'mysql' binary?

I should make it clear that it is for an installation program...

Thanks.
-- 
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russell@futureless.org |                   What is optional?
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From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk  Sat Mar 30 07:30:45 2002
From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org>; from Russell Matbouli on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0000
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> Hello,
> According to the DBI FAQ, it isn't possible to create a database using
> it. What is the preferred way of creating a MySQL database and
> populating it (in a unix-like environment)? Is the only other way to
> push a CREATE statement into a call to the 'mysql' binary?
> 
> I should make it clear that it is for an installation program...

um, simple old me, but can't you just have a  little script with the
installation process, which has in it somewhere

my $query = qq{ CREATE blah etc etc };

$dbh->execute($query)

or the like?

gazooks, when was the last time I had a query in a script? Or a query in
a module come to that? Long life Class::DBI!

m.


-- 
I'm like, one of those chocaholics.
Except with booze.

From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sat Mar 30 09:00:53 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:30:45PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > According to the DBI FAQ, it isn't possible to create a database using
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > push a CREATE statement into a call to the 'mysql' binary?
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think I said the wrong thing here. I mean to create a database. Can
you do this in SQL? I've only ever done it with mysqladmin before. At
least, as far as I can remember that's what I used...

> my $query = qq{ CREATE blah etc etc };
> 
> $dbh->execute($query)
  ^^^^

How do you get a database handle on a database that doesn't yet exist
though?

> gazooks, when was the last time I had a query in a script? Or a query in
> a module come to that? Long life Class::DBI!

Is there a Class::DBI way to do it? That's what I'm using :)
-- 
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russell@futureless.org |               What if it does not work?
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From steve-belfast-pm at narnian.org  Sat Mar 30 09:41:48 2002
From: steve-belfast-pm at narnian.org (Steve Foy)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org>; from russell-belfast-pm@futureless.org on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:00:53PM +0000
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020330154148.A31557@caspian.inhouseinternet.net>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:00:53PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:30:45PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > > According to the DBI FAQ, it isn't possible to create a database using
>                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > push a CREATE statement into a call to the 'mysql' binary?
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> I think I said the wrong thing here. I mean to create a database. Can
> you do this in SQL? I've only ever done it with mysqladmin before. At
> least, as far as I can remember that's what I used...

Yep.

> How do you get a database handle on a database that doesn't yet exist
> though?

I assume you would get a handle for the 'mysql' database with mysql's
root privileges, using the code that Marc showed.

Apologies if I'm talking nonsense.
 
> Is there a Class::DBI way to do it? That's what I'm using :)

Not sure, ask the expet(s).

-- 
Steve Foy
steve@narnian.org

Emergency. There's an emergency going on.
It's still going on

From davemw at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 30 09:55:41 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020330155541.A720@dw>

Lying half-unconcious, Russell giggled: 
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:30:45PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:17:43PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > > According to the DBI FAQ, it isn't possible to create a database using
>                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > push a CREATE statement into a call to the 'mysql' binary?
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> I think I said the wrong thing here. I mean to create a database. Can
> you do this in SQL? I've only ever done it with mysqladmin before. At
> least, as far as I can remember that's what I used...
> 

How do you think mysqladmin does it? ;)...


CREATE DATABASE installer_db;
CREATE DATABASE IF NOT EXISTS installer_db;
GRANT ...
etc.

> > my $query = qq{ CREATE blah etc etc };
> > 
> > $dbh->execute($query)
>   ^^^^
> 
> How do you get a database handle on a database that doesn't yet exist
> though?
> 
> > gazooks, when was the last time I had a query in a script? Or a query in
> > a module come to that? Long life Class::DBI!
> 
> Is there a Class::DBI way to do it? That's what I'm using :)
> -- 
> Russell Matbouli       |
> russell@futureless.org |               What if it does not work?
> PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4  |


--
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 10. I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me!

From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sat Mar 30 10:02:23 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330155541.A720@dw>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw>
Message-ID: <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:55:41PM +0000, Dave Wilson wrote:
> CREATE DATABASE installer_db;

Well there you are. I've had my SQL hand held for too long, I guess.
Still doesn't really answer my initial question though, what's the usual
way to do this with perl.

BTW, we're Perl Mongers, not Perl Monks :)
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |                      Be cautious
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From davemw at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 30 10:05:38 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw> <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020330160538.B720@dw>

As the strange mist cleared, Russell commented: 

> BTW, we're Perl Mongers, not Perl Monks :)

Giggle. I'll correct that. But it'll require a restart of mutt :/

--
while (!stoned) exist();

From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sat Mar 30 10:05:01 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330154148.A31557@caspian.inhouseinternet.net>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330154148.A31557@caspian.inhouseinternet.net>
Message-ID: <20020330160501.B9132@futureless.org>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:41:48PM +0000, Steve Foy wrote:
> I assume you would get a handle for the 'mysql' database with mysql's
> root privileges, using the code that Marc showed.

Ah, that might do it. Hadn't thought of connecting to a different
database and creating it from there. Is the database 'mysql' guaranteed
to be there?

> Not sure, ask the expet(s).

Cheers.
-- 
Russell Matbouli       |
russell@futureless.org |             Get something to eat or drink
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sat Mar 30 10:07:37 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330160538.B720@dw>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw> <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org> <20020330160538.B720@dw>
Message-ID: <20020330160737.C9132@futureless.org>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 04:05:38PM +0000, Dave Wilson wrote:
> Giggle. I'll correct that. But it'll require a restart of mutt :/

*hands Dave q <RET> ^P <RET>*

> while (!stoned) exist();

You cease to exist when stoned...? Maybe for the 'old' meaning of
getting stoned...
-- 
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russell@futureless.org |                     Make it robust
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From davemw at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 30 11:15:31 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330160501.B9132@futureless.org>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330154148.A31557@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> <20020330160501.B9132@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020330171531.B338@dw>

> database and creating it from there. Is the database 'mysql' guaranteed
> to be there?

Yes


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From tony at kasei.com  Sun Mar 31 02:42:55 2002
From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020330160737.C9132@futureless.org>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw> <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org> <20020330160538.B720@dw> <20020330160737.C9132@futureless.org>
Message-ID: <20020331084255.GA19190@soto.kasei.com>

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 04:07:37PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > while (!stoned) exist();
> You cease to exist when stoned...? Maybe for the 'old' meaning of
> getting stoned...

Now Russell, I expected your logic to be better than that ...

If he'd said:
  while (drunk) sleep();

would you expect that you don't sleep when not drunk?

Tony

From davemw at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 31 08:58:36 2002
From: davemw at yahoo.com (Dave Wilson)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020331084255.GA19190@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw> <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org> <20020330160538.B720@dw> <20020330160737.C9132@futureless.org> <20020331084255.GA19190@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020331155836.A550@dw>

> On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 04:07:37PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote:
> > > while (!stoned) exist();

http://newjack.dahomelands.net/~dw/projects.html#stoner

> > You cease to exist when stoned...? Maybe for the 'old' meaning of
> > getting stoned...
> 
> Now Russell, I expected your logic to be better than that ...
> 
> If he'd said:
>   while (drunk) sleep();
> 
> would you expect that you don't sleep when not drunk?

--
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From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org  Sun Mar 31 12:30:41 2002
From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli)
Date: Tue Aug  3 23:54:35 2004
Subject: Database creation
In-Reply-To: <20020331084255.GA19190@soto.kasei.com>
References: <20020330131743.B8638@futureless.org> <20020330133045.A27883@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020330150053.D8753@futureless.org> <20020330155541.A720@dw> <20020330160223.A9132@futureless.org> <20020330160538.B720@dw> <20020330160737.C9132@futureless.org> <20020331084255.GA19190@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <20020331193041.A10735@futureless.org>

On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 09:42:55AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote:
> Now Russell, I expected your logic to be better than that ...

Uhm, yes. Doing tech support was really getting to me yesterday.
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