From karen at kasei.com Mon Oct 1 05:42:10 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting Message-ID: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> Hi, UNITE Solutions have very kindly offered us the use of their meeting room for tomorrow night's meeting. Their address is: UNITE Solutions Limited Edgewater Road Belfast BT3 9JQ This is in the harbour industrial estate and not in the centre of town. -- Karen From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 05:48:21 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:42:10AM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:42:10AM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > Hi, > > > UNITE Solutions have very kindly offered us the use of > their meeting room for tomorrow night's meeting. > > Their address is: > > UNITE Solutions Limited > Edgewater Road > Belfast BT3 9JQ > > This is in the harbour industrial estate and not in the > centre of town. Being on a bike, I can't offer anyone a lift. So there might be those who need one. Can some soul offer these lost boys help? And what we need to know is: 1. Is there a coke machine? 1a. Is it subsidised? :-) 2. How do we get in? Is there a buzzer? (I suppose this is obvious when I arrive) 3. Is the time still the same? (7pm? 7.30pm?) 4. There were more, but not really relevant. Oh, that isn't a question m. From swm at swmcc.com Mon Oct 1 05:57:34 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:48:21AM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001115734.A22097@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:48:21AM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: Hi, > > UNITE Solutions have very kindly offered us the use of > > their meeting room for tomorrow night's meeting. > > > > Their address is: > > > > UNITE Solutions Limited > > Edgewater Road > > Belfast BT3 9JQ > > > > This is in the harbour industrial estate and not in the > > centre of town. > > Being on a bike, I can't offer anyone a lift. So there might be those > who need one. Can some soul offer these lost boys help? I can offer ppl lifts. However I can only hold three ppl comfortably as I have a shitty Corsa. So if anyone wants a lift email me. -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully? If you'd come to me in friendship, then this scum that ruined your daughter would be suffering this very day. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies, then they would become my enemies. And then they would fear you. The Godfather (1972) From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 06:08:17 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:42:10AM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:42:10AM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > Hi, > > > UNITE Solutions have very kindly offered us the use of > their meeting room for tomorrow night's meeting. > > Their address is: > > UNITE Solutions Limited > Edgewater Road > Belfast BT3 9JQ Ah, is there any number? (I knew there was another question) Or is it easily identifiable? By a big flashing, neon, rotating 'UNITE' on the roof or something? Or distinguishing land marks. Is the autotrader building down there somewhere? m. From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 06:44:14 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> > > UNITE Solutions have very kindly offered us the use of > > their meeting room for tomorrow night's meeting. > > > > Their address is: > > > > UNITE Solutions Limited > > Edgewater Road > > Belfast BT3 9JQ > > Ah, is there any number? (I knew there was another question) Or is it > easily identifiable? By a big flashing, neon, rotating 'UNITE' on the > roof or something? > > Or distinguishing land marks. Is the autotrader building down there > somewhere? Going along the motorway to larne etc. Take the turn off for Duncrue Industrial Estate, turn right at the (Fortwilliam) roundabout at the top of the turn-off. You will pass a wee security hut, then a set of lights, turn left at these lights, in about 15 seconds you will be faced a corner to the right, while in the middle of this corner, you will see a building with a carpark to your right, turn into this. There is a small "UNITE" sign at the entrance, but you need to be trained in VSOS (Very Small Object Spotting) to see this. There is no buzzer, and I assume the door will be open, just walk in and either hang about, or enter the door to your right to find the lovely abode of the UNITE staff (most of which will have buggered off home). I have no idea why I'm writing this, as someone will undoubtably give directions before me, and also I'm not planning on attending the meeting, due to the fact that I'm just a wee kid, and will surely feel intimidated. Good luck Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 06:51:51 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from Steve Foy on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:44:14PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011001125151.F31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:44:14PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > I have no idea why I'm writing this, as someone will undoubtably give > directions before me, and also I'm not planning on attending the meeting, > due to the fact that I'm just a wee kid, and will surely feel intimidated. Ah, go on now, you know you want to. If even only to berate me.... Intimidation? In that everyone else there will be cleverer than you? Hey, you the club and how I feel..... m. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 06:54:26 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001125151.F31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from Stray Toaster on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:51:51PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011001125151.F31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001125426.H31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:51:51PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Hey, you the club and how I feel..... I have no idea what this means. It shuld have said 'join the club and know how I feel' so there, before anyone else says. From tony at kasei.com Mon Oct 1 08:02:44 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:48:21AM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001140244.A18316@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:48:21AM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > And what we need to know is: > 1. Is there a coke machine? No. But there is a chocolate machine. Of sorts. There isn't really much machinery involved in it. It's more a chocolate box. Which obviously isn't a box made out of chocolate, no more than a chocolate machine is a machine made out of chocolate, or a coke machine is a machine made out of coke. Dolls, on the other hand, are a different matter entirely. > 1a. Is it subsidised? :-) No. But you're helping some charity or other. Somehow. I think. Like the water. Which is hot as well as cold. So be careful which side you get your water from. There's a sign to tell you this. But you have to be 2ft tall to see it. Or bent over very weirdly. > 2. How do we get in? I would suggest the door. The more adventurous amongst you could try the windows. But I doubt there will be any SAS recruiters present to be impressed. > Is there a buzzer? Is this a philosphical question? Like "Is there a God"? > 3. Is the time still the same? This question would have been much more impressive without the first 'the'. > 4. There were more, but not really relevant. Oh, that isn't a question This is the last statement of this email. From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 08:24:40 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> > I have no idea why I'm writing this, as someone will undoubtably give > directions before me, and also I'm not planning on attending the meeting, > due to the fact that I'm just a wee kid, and will surely feel intimidated. Karen has nearly persuaded me to go to the meeting, although I am still unsure as to why. Can anyone persuade me further, like tell me what generally goes on at a typical "mongers of perl" meeting? Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 08:26:44 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001140244.A18316@blackstar.co.uk>; from Tony Bowden on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:02:44PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011001140244.A18316@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001142644.I31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:02:44PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > > of coke. Dolls, on the other hand, are a different matter entirely. OK, after having snorted bangers, mash and onion gravy out my nose while reading this, I have to ask: What is a doll machine? (The only things that did cross my mind over this aren't, erm, suitable for family viewing.) > > > 3. Is the time still the same? > > This question would have been much more impressive without the first 'the'. But then, the obvious knee-jerk reaction to that would be 'no, it isn't the same.' Then I think a bit....and say, 'yes, it is the same' then I decide to say neither, as I can feel my blood pressure rising, and I want to finish my bangers n mash. m. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 08:28:55 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from Steve Foy on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:24:40PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011001142855.J31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:24:40PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > I have no idea why I'm writing this, as someone will undoubtably give > > directions before me, and also I'm not planning on attending the meeting, > > due to the fact that I'm just a wee kid, and will surely feel > intimidated. > > Karen has nearly persuaded me to go to the meeting, although I am still > unsure as to why. > Can anyone persuade me further, like tell me what generally goes on at a > typical "mongers of perl" meeting? A typical meeting? Have we had a typical one? Usually, it involves lots of shouting and finger pointing [0], and much hilarity, and even some useful things gleaned. Or gleamed. Or gleened. I am plumping for gleaned here. Oh go on, listen to Karen. She Knows What She is Talking About. And you can even come outside and coo over my motorcycle. I allow you. m. From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 08:32:59 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011001142855.J31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <00d101c14a7d$973b5520$e3a003d4@unite.net> > Oh go on, listen to Karen. She Knows What She is Talking About. And you > can even come outside and coo over my motorcycle. I allow you. I'm thinking that may be the best thing about it ;-) You seem to be actively trying to get me to go....how odd Steve From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Mon Oct 1 08:33:55 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001143300.009eaca0@127.0.0.1> At 14:24 01/10/2001 +0100, Steve Foy wrote: >Karen has nearly persuaded me to go to the meeting, although I am still >unsure as to why. >Can anyone persuade me further, like tell me what generally goes on at a >typical "mongers of perl" meeting? Come to the meeting and we can amuse and confuse everyone else by making all sorts of Unite in-jokes. It'll be a laugh. Andrew From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 08:34:02 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <00d101c14a7d$973b5520$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from Steve Foy on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:32:59PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011001142855.J31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <00d101c14a7d$973b5520$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011001143402.K31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:32:59PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > > Oh go on, listen to Karen. She Knows What She is Talking About. And you > > can even come outside and coo over my motorcycle. I allow you. > > I'm thinking that may be the best thing about it ;-) > You seem to be actively trying to get me to go....how odd why? I don't duck anyone, and will also talk to anyone, and like to Spread The Word. It is good to get new people to go. m. ps perldoc -m is my new best friend! From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 08:38:21 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011001142855.J31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <00d101c14a7d$973b5520$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011001143402.K31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <00f601c14a7e$56009ce0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:32:59PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > > > > Oh go on, listen to Karen. She Knows What She is Talking About. And you > > > can even come outside and coo over my motorcycle. I allow you. > > > > I'm thinking that may be the best thing about it ;-) > > You seem to be actively trying to get me to go....how odd > > why? I don't duck anyone, and will also talk to anyone, and like to > Spread The Word. It is good to get new people to go. OK, might give it a go then.. can't say I'll provide much of a contribution though. > ps perldoc -m is my new best friend! Nice one.... (what?) From swm at swmcc.com Mon Oct 1 08:39:24 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001143300.009eaca0@127.0.0.1>; from andrew@mcfarland.co.uk on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:33:55PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <008401c14a6e$67f8c860$e3a003d4@unite.net> <00c301c14a7c$6d27a780$e3a003d4@unite.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20011001143300.009eaca0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <20011001143924.A22867@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:33:55PM +0100, Andrew McFarland wrote: > At 14:24 01/10/2001 +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > >Karen has nearly persuaded me to go to the meeting, although I am still > >unsure as to why. > >Can anyone persuade me further, like tell me what generally goes on at a > >typical "mongers of perl" meeting? > > Come to the meeting and we can amuse and confuse everyone else by making > all sorts of Unite in-jokes. It'll be a laugh. > > Andrew Well then I will have lots of TradeElectronically in jokes then, however Barry is in Canada atm so I will be laughin with/at myself (no change there). -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com [Addressing a roomful of Japanese businessmen.] It seems only yesteray that I was strafing so many of your houses. Today I'm asking you not to make such damn good cars. Hot Shots Part Deux (1993) From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:16:22 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting Message-ID: >Well then I will have lots of TradeElectronically in jokes then, >however >Barry is in Canada atm so I will be laughin with/at myself (no >change >there). Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys tonight. PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 09:19:28 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: Message-ID: <011e01c14a84$14c248e0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > >Well then I will have lots of TradeElectronically in jokes then, >however > >Barry is in Canada atm so I will be laughin with/at myself (no >change > >there). > > Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys > tonight. > PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. Oh yes, I can't go then.... No perl mongering for me this week, unless I can make it to both places... we'll see From swm at swmcc.com Mon Oct 1 09:20:47 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: ; from sleepy_uk@hotmail.com on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:16:22PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20011001152047.A23145@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Hi Scott, > >Well then I will have lots of TradeElectronically in jokes then, >however > >Barry is in Canada atm so I will be laughin with/at myself (no >change > >there). > > Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys > tonight. > PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. ??? Are you addressing me or Steve Foy? If it was Steve Foy would it not have made more sense to reply to his email instead of mine? If you are addressing me then WTF are you talking about? -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com Mr Brown? That sounds too much like Mr Shit. Reservior Dogs (1992) From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 09:25:22 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:13 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <011e01c14a84$14c248e0$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from Steve Foy on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:19:28PM +0100 References: <011e01c14a84$14c248e0$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011001152522.P31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:19:28PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > >Well then I will have lots of TradeElectronically in jokes then, >however > > >Barry is in Canada atm so I will be laughin with/at myself (no >change > > >there). > > > > Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys > > tonight. > > PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. > > Oh yes, I can't go then.... > No perl mongering for me this week, unless I can make it to both places... > we'll see Unless I am mistaken, this is about TONIGHT, whereas the meeting is TOMORROW.... From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Mon Oct 1 09:41:31 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: ; from sleepy_uk@hotmail.com on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:16:22PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20011001154131.B1300@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:16:22PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys > tonight. > PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. Bear in mind that there are is more than one Steve on this list. That really confued me when I read it. Steve (so there) From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 09:43:59 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001154131.B1300@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <014601c14a87$81c07a40$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:16:22PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > > > Um, just to remind steve that he's supposed to be going to katy dalys > > tonight. > > PS: steve, if the times will work for us going to both gis a bell. > > Bear in mind that there are is more than one Steve on this list. That > really confued me when I read it. > > Steve (so there) Well I'm steve, but am willing to be called whatever people feel like, so gimme some ideas ? Steve (me) From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Mon Oct 1 09:53:07 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <014601c14a87$81c07a40$e3a003d4@unite.net> References: <20011001154131.B1300@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001155151.009f3700@127.0.0.1> At 15:43 01/10/2001 +0100, Steve Foy wrote: >Well I'm steve, but am willing to be called whatever people feel like, so >gimme some ideas ? I'm going to call you Adlebert from now on then. I had a friend at school called Adlebert. Some of you may even remember him.... Andrew From paddy at earth.li Mon Oct 1 09:56:54 2001 From: paddy at earth.li (Patrick Moore) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting Message-ID: <20011001155654.B19105@the.earth.li> * On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:53:07PM +0100, Andrew McFarland said: > At 15:43 01/10/2001 +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > >Well I'm steve, but am willing to be called whatever people feel like, so > >gimme some ideas ? > I'm going to call you Adlebert from now on then. *grin* > I had a friend at school called Adlebert. Some of you may even remember > him.... I remember his violin bow breaking. but that's about it :) at least, I think it was him.. it was so long ago... paddy -- oOoOo "Man, is that a piece of fairy cake.. My stomache is oOoOo oOoOo completely out to lunch" -- Zaphod Beeblebrox oOoOo oOoOo oOoOo From tony at kasei.com Mon Oct 1 12:30:18 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:08:17PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001120817.D31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001183018.A955@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:08:17PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Ah, is there any number? (I knew there was another question) Numbers? We don't need no steenkin' numbers. We don't care for numbers round these parts. Where the streets have no numbers. > Or distinguishing land marks. Is the autotrader building down there > somewhere? By the powers invested in ASCII art I offer all you folks with fixed width mail readers the following piece of wisdom: Map | | | | | | ^ | | | | M2/M5 | | | ------- | | | / -- -- | | | // || / | \ Edgewater // || / | \ Fortwilliam Road // -- -- / /| | |\ \ Roundabout // | | / / | | | \ \ SEA // |*Here*| / --------- \ // ------ / --------- \ // --- | | | | | ------------------------------------- --- --- | | | | | ------- --------- ------- ----------- --- \ --------- / Dargan Road ^ ^ \ --------- / | | \ \ | | | / / Security Traffic \ \| | |/ / Office lights \ | / \ | / | | | | | | | | | | | | | To Belfast M2 | | | | | | | | | Anyone with a proportionlly spaced font will almost get the gist, but will probably end up drowning if they follow this too closely... Tony From tony at kasei.com Mon Oct 1 12:32:49 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001142644.I31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:26:44PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011001140244.A18316@blackstar.co.uk> <20011001142644.I31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001183249.A1339@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:26:44PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:02:44PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > > machine made out of chocolate, or a coke machine is a machine made out > > of coke. Dolls, on the other hand, are a different matter entirely. > What is a doll machine? (The only things that did cross my mind over > this aren't, erm, suitable for family viewing.) Not a doll machine. A doll made out of coke. > > > 3. Is the time still the same? > > This question would have been much more impressive without the first 'the'. > But then, the obvious knee-jerk reaction to that would be 'no, it isn't > the same.' Then I think a bit....and say, 'yes, it is the same' then I > decide to say neither, as I can feel my blood pressure rising, and I > want to finish my bangers n mash. Sounds like something to add to tomorrow's agenda. After Karen's talk on Impatient Perl, or whatever it is, a discussion on whether time is still the same. With much waving of hands and screaming of "But that's intellectually corrupt", no doubt. Tony From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 1 13:49:41 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011001183249.A1339@blackstar.co.uk>; from Tony Bowden on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:32:49PM +0100 References: <20011001114210.E23310@soto.kasei.com> <20011001114821.C31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011001140244.A18316@blackstar.co.uk> <20011001142644.I31762@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011001183249.A1339@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011001194941.A4731@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:32:49PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > > After Karen's talk on Impatient Perl, or whatever it is, a discussion > on whether time is still the same. With much waving of hands and screaming > of "But that's intellectually corrupt", no doubt. Ah, no. I am reformed. I listen courteously to the other sides in arguments, respond politely and intelligably, and with measured and reasoned statements. [0] Unless you weren't talking about me, of course. m. currently not listening to a talk on planetary nebulae. [0] no, honestly. really. From andrew-dated-1002396884.e45904 at rivendale.net Mon Oct 1 14:34:43 2001 From: andrew-dated-1002396884.e45904 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] Message-ID: <20011001203443.D1822@gandalf.rivendale.net> Aarrh I've been sending these to people instead of the list. Again :-( cheers Andrew -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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From: Andrew Wilson Subject: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:32:40 +0100 Size: 1288 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011001/43c9538c/attachment.eml From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 1 16:02:09 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tomorrow night's meeting References: <20011001203443.D1822@gandalf.rivendale.net> Message-ID: <002901c14abc$55b64440$4c37fe3e@kzuaymrx> > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:51:51PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > > Hey, you the club and how I feel..... > > > > I have no idea what this means. It shuld have said > > >> 'join the club and know how I feel' > > > > so there, before anyone else says. > > > Hmm ... Stupid people don't get degrees in Physics, but that's for > another time. > > Steve, please don't feel intimdated. Come along, you will be welcome > and we don't bite[0]. I sincerely hope that we cater to all levels of > perl ability If I'm able to make it, I will. I dont think I've to be at Katy's 'til about 11 ish so it looks like I'll be able to delight you all with my presence. Steve From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Mon Oct 1 17:00:36 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] In-Reply-To: <20011001203456.E1822@gandalf.rivendale.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> At 20:34 01/10/01 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: >You mean as opposed to BlackStar in-jokes? I think we may have done >to many of them at the well attended Schwern talk (you all know the >one I mean (well those of you who were there do at any rate)). Steve and I are simple folk. We have to find our amusement where we can. After a few months of working here we generally laugh at anything. If you do HTML and you can laugh at

then you're sorted really. Andrew -- AA McFarland http://www.mcfarland.co.uk/andrew/ The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want Psalm 23:1 From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 04:02:27 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net> > At 20:34 01/10/01 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > >You mean as opposed to BlackStar in-jokes? I think we may have done > >to many of them at the well attended Schwern talk (you all know the > >one I mean (well those of you who were there do at any rate)). > > Steve and I are simple folk. We have to find our amusement where we can. > After a few months of working here we generally laugh at anything. If you > do HTML and you can laugh at

then you're sorted really. And teabags, we also love teabags, bring us some teabags, we're running out Steve From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Tue Oct 2 04:09:41 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] In-Reply-To: <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011002100811.009ee200@127.0.0.1> At 10:02 02/10/2001 +0100, Adlebert wrote: >And teabags, we also love teabags, bring us some teabags, we're running out No no no. We _don't_ love teabags. At least not as such. We just regard the world tea distribution process as massively inefficient. Andrew From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 04:11:14 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> <5.1.0.14.0.20011002100811.009ee200@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <001901c14b22$2fc07d80$e3a003d4@unite.net> > At 10:02 02/10/2001 +0100, Adlebert wrote: > >And teabags, we also love teabags, bring us some teabags, we're running out > > No no no. > > We _don't_ love teabags. At least not as such. We just regard the world tea > distribution process as massively inefficient. Yes, that is true, sorry for my ignorance Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 2 04:21:40 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Time is.......fleeting, madness etcetc was Re: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <002901c14abc$55b64440$4c37fe3e@kzuaymrx>; from Steve Foy on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 10:02:09PM +0100 References: <20011001203443.D1822@gandalf.rivendale.net> <002901c14abc$55b64440$4c37fe3e@kzuaymrx> Message-ID: <20011002102140.A8580@tux.blackstar.co.uk> OK all. My guess as to kick off would be 7pm. Any other offers/bids? (I was going to say descension, but fear not being able to spell it, and it not meaning what I think it be meaning. OhhArr.) So 7pm tonight then? m. From paddy at earth.li Tue Oct 2 04:33:54 2001 From: paddy at earth.li (Patrick Moore) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] In-Reply-To: <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from steve@unite.net on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:02:27AM +0100 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011002103354.B18804@the.earth.li> * On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:02:27AM +0100, Steve Foy said: > > At 20:34 01/10/01 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > >You mean as opposed to BlackStar in-jokes? I think we may have done > > >to many of them at the well attended Schwern talk (you all know the > > >one I mean (well those of you who were there do at any rate)). > > Steve and I are simple folk. We have to find our amusement where we can. > > After a few months of working here we generally laugh at anything. If you > > do HTML and you can laugh at

then you're sorted really. > And teabags, we also love teabags, bring us some teabags, we're running out teabags are wonderful things. yes... I need mroe to satisfy my habit too.. lots more... twelve (or more) a day isn't enough.. no... *grin* paddy -- ----------( Trying to put the truth into concise terms, the )---------- ----------( pen cries for direction, but the universe keeps )---------- padDY ----( its secret. )---- YDdap Htag.pl 0.0.19 From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 04:35:51 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002103354.B18804@the.earth.li> Message-ID: <002d01c14b25$a0246f20$e3a003d4@unite.net> > * On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:02:27AM +0100, Steve Foy said: > > > At 20:34 01/10/01 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > > >You mean as opposed to BlackStar in-jokes? I think we may have done > > > >to many of them at the well attended Schwern talk (you all know the > > > >one I mean (well those of you who were there do at any rate)). > > > Steve and I are simple folk. We have to find our amusement where we can. > > > After a few months of working here we generally laugh at anything. If you > > > do HTML and you can laugh at

then you're sorted really. > > And teabags, we also love teabags, bring us some teabags, we're running out > > teabags are wonderful things. yes... I need mroe to satisfy my habit > too.. lots more... twelve (or more) a day isn't enough.. 12 a day? what do you manage to do with 12 teabags a day? Steve From paddy at earth.li Tue Oct 2 04:37:38 2001 From: paddy at earth.li (Patrick Moore) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] In-Reply-To: <002d01c14b25$a0246f20$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from steve@unite.net on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:35:51AM +0100 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011001225841.0372f050@127.0.0.1> <000b01c14b20$f6045400$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002103354.B18804@the.earth.li> <002d01c14b25$a0246f20$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011002103738.C18804@the.earth.li> * On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:35:51AM +0100, Steve Foy said: > > teabags are wonderful things. yes... I need mroe to satisfy my habit > > too.. lots more... twelve (or more) a day isn't enough.. > 12 a day? what do you manage to do with 12 teabags a day? I use them in the creation of a wonderful elixir. it calms the sould and soothes the nerves. paddy -- | "Bother!" said Pooh, as he forgot which Tagline he was going to use. | |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=http://www.obfuscated.org.uk=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 04:40:20 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] Message-ID: <004301c14b26$4086c8a0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > > Subject: Re: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] Why are we publicizing andrew@rivendale.net?? Is he some superior being? One who harvests all our produce and uses it for his own benefit? Is he a god? why, oh why are all our messages tarnished by this ghastly subject line? Steve From swm at swmcc.com Tue Oct 2 04:45:35 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] In-Reply-To: <004301c14b26$4086c8a0$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from steve@unite.net on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:40:20AM +0100 References: <004301c14b26$4086c8a0$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011002104535.A25052@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:40:20AM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > > Subject: Re: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Tomorrow night's meeting] > > Why are we publicizing andrew@rivendale.net?? Cos he pays us lots of money :) > Is he some superior being? Yes ;) > One who harvests all our produce and uses it for his own benefit? Don't be silly. > Is he a god? He comes from Glengormley.. > why, oh why are all our messages tarnished by this ghastly subject line? Cos he probably forwarded them to us because he was replying to the person and not the list. Thanks, -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com What have I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully? If you'd come to me in friendship, then this scum that ruined your daughter would be suffering this very day. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies, then they would become my enemies. And then they would fear you. The Godfather (1972) From karen at kasei.com Tue Oct 2 05:01:11 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Time is.......fleeting, madness etcetc was Re: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011002102140.A8580@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002110111.B31107@soto.kasei.com> On Tue Oct 2 10:21:40 2001, Stray Toaster wrote: > OK all. > > My guess as to kick off would be 7pm. Any other offers/bids? (I was > going to say descension, but fear not being able to spell it, and it not > meaning what I think it be meaning. OhhArr.) > > So 7pm tonight then? 7 sounds good to me. I look forward to seeing you ;) -- Karen From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 2 05:48:42 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. Message-ID: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> So who is going tonight? Apart from the haggard regulars (that applies to the males only, I would never call a female haggard. Worn out, done, but not haggard. Not that I would call Karen that either. I am stopping this line of thought now. dig, dig, dig...) Pipe up! m. -- Whole generations Thinking of themselves As infidels And pop stars From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 05:53:12 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> > So who is going tonight? Apart from the haggard regulars (that applies > to the males only, I would never call a female haggard. Worn out, done, > but not haggard. Not that I would call Karen that either. I am stopping > this line of thought now. dig, dig, dig...) I may or may not go, as my "pseudo wife" is sick (cue hurlings of comments such as "he thinks he's so mature") I guess you'll jsut have to wait and see Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 2 06:02:08 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. In-Reply-To: <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from Steve Foy on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:53:12AM +0100 References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:53:12AM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > I may or may not go, as my "pseudo wife" is sick (cue hurlings of comments > such as "he thinks he's so mature") > I guess you'll jsut have to wait and see Oh, an-tic-ip-ation. (keeping with my previous RHPS subject). Look, whos the man? eh? whos the man? tell her you are going out, dammit, and that is the end of it. m. From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 06:07:05 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <00ab01c14b32$5f515be0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:53:12AM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > > > I may or may not go, as my "pseudo wife" is sick (cue hurlings of comments > > such as "he thinks he's so mature") > > I guess you'll jsut have to wait and see > > Oh, an-tic-ip-ation. (keeping with my previous RHPS subject). RHPS subject?? > Look, whos the man? eh? whos the man? tell her you are going out, > dammit, and that is the end of it. Yes, I'm struggling with that side of my brain aswell. I think I'll come (at least for a little bit) Oh the joys of talking about perl Steve From steve at blackstar.co.uk Tue Oct 2 06:10:40 2001 From: steve at blackstar.co.uk (steve@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. In-Reply-To: <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:02:08PM +0100 References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002121040.A10765@blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:02:08PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > Look, whos the man? eh? whos the man? tell her you are going out, > dammit, and that is the end of it. > This from the man who said Thursday didn't suit him because Valerie was working! Really... Steve From swm at swmcc.com Tue Oct 2 06:14:37 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. In-Reply-To: <20011002121040.A10765@blackstar.co.uk>; from steve@blackstar.co.uk on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:10:40PM +0100 References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011002121040.A10765@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002121437.A25491@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:10:40PM +0100, steve@blackstar.co.uk wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:02:08PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > > Look, whos the man? eh? whos the man? tell her you are going out, > > dammit, and that is the end of it. > > > > This from the man who said Thursday didn't suit him because Valerie was > working! Really... Yeah, but I think it was more to do with the fact that he has two Marc jnr's and a Valire jnr to look after that night. But yes, he is a big wuss. -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com You must have shot an awful of tigers, sir. Yes, I use a machine gun. The Italian Job (1969) From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 06:16:28 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. Message-ID: <00d301c14b33$ae7e1b80$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:02:08PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > > Look, whos the man? eh? whos the man? tell her you are going out, > > dammit, and that is the end of it. > > > > This from the man who said Thursday didn't suit him because Valerie was > working! Really... Haha ;-) From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Tue Oct 2 06:54:08 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: The Tuesday Convention Message-ID: <20011002125408.A22358@futureless.org> Since we're just about to have two meetings in a row on the specified day, do you think we can go about changing this again? It now seems that my Tai Chi Chuan class is going to be on a Tuesday evening, so that may not suit me too well in the future. I'll be at tonights meeting though (thanks Stephen). Oh, and I have a databases class on a Thursday until 7.30pm. (The only other class on a Thursday is at 9.15am *sigh*) So can I break the (so newly formed) system already? Any other day suits me fine :) Russell, who saw Battle Royale Special Edition last night and highly recommends it -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011002/9171d08b/attachment.bin From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 2 06:56:43 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. In-Reply-To: <20011002121518.A32289@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:15:18PM +0100 References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011002121518.A32289@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011002125643.G8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:15:18PM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > > Marc wants to count heads. Karen is wondering if Marc will still have a > head left after tonight's meeting. Worn out? Done? You should start > the digging before you begin the typing. That wasn't Marc who typed that last message. It was an imposter. Tho I am back now. Err, maybe I will feel ill around 7pm tonight.... m. From tony at kasei.com Tue Oct 2 06:58:45 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: The Tuesday Convention In-Reply-To: <20011002125408.A22358@futureless.org>; from russell-belfast-pm@futureless.org on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:54:08PM +0100 References: <20011002125408.A22358@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20011002125845.A23602@blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:54:08PM +0100, Russell Matbouli wrote: > So can I break the (so newly formed) system already? Any other day suits > me fine :) Picking a fixed day of week obviously doesn't work. Therefore I propose that we meet on the first double digit, non palindromic, prime day of month that is not a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Tony From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Tue Oct 2 07:09:12 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Time is.......fleeting, madness etcetc was Re: Tomorrow night's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011002102140.A8580@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011001203443.D1822@gandalf.rivendale.net> <002901c14abc$55b64440$4c37fe3e@kzuaymrx> <20011002102140.A8580@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002130912.A22459@futureless.org> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:21:40AM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > My guess as to kick off would be 7pm. Any other offers/bids? (I was > going to say descension, but fear not being able to spell it, and it not > meaning what I think it be meaning. OhhArr.) > > So 7pm tonight then? Sounds okay to me, but it differs on http://belfast.pm.org/meetings/ Russell, with a bit of a mind flip I'm into the time slip... -- Computers are useless. 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I think we decided on 7.30 before but we've moved it back now. Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me! Julius Caesar - Carry on Cleo From wesley at yelsew.com Tue Oct 2 09:22:45 2001 From: wesley at yelsew.com (Wesley Darlington) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Headcount. In-Reply-To: <00ab01c14b32$5f515be0$e3a003d4@unite.net>; from steve@unite.net on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:07:05PM +0100 References: <20011002114842.D8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <009701c14b30$6e41bd40$e3a003d4@unite.net> <20011002120208.E8600@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <00ab01c14b32$5f515be0$e3a003d4@unite.net> Message-ID: <20011002102245.A74507@paat.pair.com> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:07:05PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > RHPS subject?? For some weird reason, my brain autoexpands "RHPS" to "Red Hat Poets' Society". I can't help it. I have to strain for a little while before I remember that it's something to do with dressing up in weird costumes... Wesley. From steve at unite.net Tue Oct 2 09:30:43 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Fw: Headcount. Message-ID: <017c01c14b4e$d197bfc0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:07:05PM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > > RHPS subject?? > > For some weird reason, my brain autoexpands "RHPS" to "Red Hat > Poets' Society". I can't help it. I have to strain for a little > while before I remember that it's something to do with dressing > up in weird costumes... I have never heard of anything known as so I am unsure as to wether such a thing actually exists. Regardless, how on earth can your brain automatically map "RHPS" to "Red Hat Poets' Society" ?? Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 2 16:21:05 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] Message-ID: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Just a word, y'all. OI would like to say thankyou to Karen for her talk this evening, even if I did manage to totally look like I have never coded in perl in my life. *mutter mutter* I am sitting her with books open wondering if I should learn *stuff* instead of just looking it up when I need it. (FYI I treat SQL, HTML et al in exactly the same way. I don't need to *know* it, as I can look up the syntax if needs be. Anyway, enough of my philosophy.) I enjoyed the talk anyway. hurrah for Karen! Note to those who have neverr met me: I am not like that in real life. m. [0] Assuming you read this on Tuesday the xth of October 2001, where x is the value of the date of the, ah hell, its happening again... -- It is a matter of Great indifference to me How your biggest Lie came true. (as a matter of fact I'm hollow, but What does that matter to you?) From andrew-dated-1002489730.483d7f at rivendale.net Tue Oct 2 16:22:09 2001 From: andrew-dated-1002489730.483d7f at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonight's meeting Message-ID: <20011002222209.B816@gandalf.rivendale.net> Hey y'all Good turnout. I enjoyed the meeting and learned some cool new stuff. Oh and we got to watch Marc reimplement a one line program as what would have ended up as a three page epic :-) Big round of applause for karen, good talk. Hopefully we didn't scare off any of the new faces with our mad ramblings. So, as far as I remember most of this stuff was decided, can someone else confirm or refute this[-1] 37) meetings will now be held on the second Tuesday of the month 12) There will be a Christmas Dinner 45) Belfast Perlmongers may even organise a Christmas dinner ^) We haven't decided a venue for future meetings &) We don't have a venue for the alleged christmas dinner Things that are definite for next month MCMLXXXIV) Marc will be talking about Parrot MMI) Steve will be doing something about using Mail::Audit Things that might happen[0] XLII) I might talk about This module what I have wrote Oh and Marc want's somebody to talk about object persistance. And can people who said they would do reviews please do them[1] cheers Andrew [0] This is my mail I can make it tentative if I want ;-) [1] Yes I know[2] [2] This is a quote from somewhere. [3] This isn't quite numerical order, it's perl array access orderu [-1] numbers are like seriously overrated[3] From andrew-dated-1002490031.8eda6a at rivendale.net Tue Oct 2 16:26:41 2001 From: andrew-dated-1002490031.8eda6a at rivendale.net (andrew-dated-1002490031.8eda6a@rivendale.net) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002222641.C816@gandalf.rivendale.net> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:21:05PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Just a word, y'all. > > OI would like to say thankyou to Karen for her talk this evening, even > if I did manage to totally look like I have never coded in perl in my > life. *mutter mutter* Indeed, and quite impressive it was too. psst Marc, this is where you try to claim taht karen set it up so the rest of talk would look cool ;-) > I am sitting her with books open wondering if I should learn *stuff* > instead of just looking it up when I need it. (FYI I treat SQL, HTML et > al in exactly the same way. I don't need to *know* it, as I can look up > the syntax if needs be. Anyway, enough of my philosophy.) Yeah, I tend to do that with SQL and HTML but I try not to with perl. It's a bad habit and I've really got to stop. > I enjoyed the talk anyway. > > hurrah for Karen! > > Note to those who have neverr met me: I am not like that in real life. Oh yes you are[1] cheers Andrew [1] But I like you anyway From schwern at pobox.com Tue Oct 2 16:51:57 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011002175157.D14627@blackrider> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:21:05PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Note to those who have neverr met me: I am not like that in real life. You're actually much taller. -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One First day in Prison Back behind the shower door Adhesive applied -- ignatz From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Tue Oct 2 17:10:15 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011002222209.B816@gandalf.rivendale.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011002230830.0373c060@127.0.0.1> At 22:22 02/10/01 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: >Hopefully we didn't scare off any of the new faces with our mad >ramblings. I wasn't scared. Not much anyway. I'm probably a mad rambler as well, when I get started. Maybe I'll explain my teabag theory one day. Andrew -- AA McFarland http://www.mcfarland.co.uk/andrew/ The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want Psalm 23:1 From andrew-dated-1002498203.0b3d87 at rivendale.net Tue Oct 2 18:43:22 2001 From: andrew-dated-1002498203.0b3d87 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011002222209.B816@gandalf.rivendale.net> References: <20011002222209.B816@gandalf.rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20011003004322.A360@gandalf.rivendale.net> Hi All > 37) meetings will now be held on the second Tuesday of the month This is wrong, it's the second Monday (I'm almost sure anyway:-) cheers Andrew From swm at swmcc.com Wed Oct 3 05:04:56 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:21:05PM +0100 References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011003110456.A27245@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> > OI would like to say thankyou to Karen for her talk this evening, even > if I did manage to totally look like I have never coded in perl in my > life. *mutter mutter* Yes, thanks very much. > I am sitting her with books open wondering if I should learn *stuff* > instead of just looking it up when I need it. (FYI I treat SQL, HTML et > al in exactly the same way. I don't need to *know* it, as I can look up > the syntax if needs be. Anyway, enough of my philosophy.) Instead of brushing up on your Perl I would brush up on your driving.. For those of you who weren't in my car to witness this - Marc pulled out on an articulated lorry, which is scary enough if you are in a car but a motorbike... I have to say I did sh!t myself when you pulled out on it, as did Russell and Steve. However when we knew everything was all right we p!ssed ourselves laughing. Hope Steve gave you stick about it. Anyway thanks for the talk and stuff. Thanks, -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com You must have shot an awful of tigers, sir. Yes, I use a machine gun. The Italian Job (1969) From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Wed Oct 3 05:42:46 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011003110456.A27245@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com>; from Stephen McCullough on Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:04:56AM +0100 References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011003110456.A27245@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Message-ID: <20011003114246.B17561@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:04:56AM +0100, Stephen McCullough wrote: > > Instead of brushing up on your Perl I would brush up on your driving.. > > For those of you who weren't in my car to witness this - Marc pulled out on > an articulated lorry, which is scary enough if you are in a car but a motorbike... > I have to say I did sh!t myself when you pulled out on it, as did Russell > and Steve. However when we knew everything was all right we p!ssed ourselves > laughing. Hope Steve gave you stick about it. This is actually not true. I looked before I indicated, looked before I manoevered, and looked after I got into the lane. I did see the lorry, but he was way, way back. And as I was coming up to the junction, knew he would be slowing down, so I had more time. And then he sped past me, cutting across three lanes to the inside. What a nutter. I was fine, I was aware. so there. m. -- It is a matter of great indifference to me How you greatest lie came true As a matter of fact I'm hollow But what does that matter to you. From tony at kasei.com Wed Oct 3 14:31:23 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011003203123.A16690@soto.kasei.com> On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:21:05PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > I am sitting her with books open wondering if I should learn *stuff* > instead of just looking it up when I need it. (FYI I treat SQL, HTML et > al in exactly the same way. I don't need to *know* it, as I can look up > the syntax if needs be. Anyway, enough of my philosophy.) Ah ... the trick isn't in knowing syntax. It's in knowing that something exists. So that, for example last night, you could say, "I know there's a command line switch to do this, must look that up", rather than "What's the syntax of Getopts::Long?". Once you know what tools can be at your disposal, then worry about gradually mastering them ;) Tony From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Wed Oct 3 15:04:35 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Tonights meeting [0] In-Reply-To: <20011003203123.A16690@soto.kasei.com>; from Tony Bowden on Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 08:31:23PM +0100 References: <20011002222105.A14700@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011003203123.A16690@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011003210435.B22646@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 08:31:23PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > Ah ... the trick isn't in knowing syntax. It's in knowing that something > exists. > Indeed. Tho I always find that I find out that these things exist by accident. A lot of these things are undocumented, especially if you only stick to the same sources. A great advocacy for the pm groups then, I suppose. Someone else knows something cool and is willing to share the knowledge. Read much, read often, read widely. (And not just those picture books, either.) m. Who still feels foolish. -- It is a matter of great indifference to me How you greatest lie came true As a matter of fact I'm hollow But what does that matter to you. From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Thu Oct 4 04:57:48 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Apocalypse 3 is out Message-ID: <20011004105747.A5041@blackstar.co.uk> For those of you who haven;t heard this by now, Apocalypse 3 is out. Tis at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/02/apocalypse3.html Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. Sugarcoated - Aimee Mann From tony at kasei.com Fri Oct 5 02:27:18 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: [deniseo@oreilly.com: Newsletter #11 from O'Reilly UG Program] Message-ID: <20011005082718.A15339@soto.kasei.com> ----- Forwarded message from Denise Olliffe ----- From: Denise Olliffe To: tony@kasei.com Subject: Newsletter #11 from O'Reilly UG Program O'Reilly User Group Program NEWSLETTER Volume 1, #11 O'Reilly has moved its offices to a brand new space, which explains why you didn't receive a newsletter last week. Because of the move this week, I'm sending more of a bulletin to let you know my new contact info, and to announce the books that have been released. I'll resume news next week. HIGHLIGHTS THIS WEEK... 5 New Books: - REALbasic: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition - DNS on Windows 2000 - Web Design in a Nutshell, 2nd Editon - Enterprise JavaBeans, 3rd Edition - COM and .NET Component Services ************************************************* Announcement ************************************************* We've moved! Please update your contact info, and your newsletter mailing lists: Denise Olliffe c/o O'Reilly & Associates 1005 Gravenstein Hwy North Sebastopol, CA 95472 Direct line: 707-827-7090 800-998-9938 x7090 707-829-0515 x7090 email remains the same: deniseo@oreilly.com ************************************************* BOOK NEWS ************************************************* REVIEW COPIES AVAILABLE Please email me to request review copies. Press announcements are available for your use, please ask for a copy. Just released: ---------------------------- REALbasic: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/realbasic2/ Sample Chapter 3: Objects, Classes, and Instances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/realbasic2/chapter/ch03.html DNS on Windows 2000 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/dnswin2/ Sample Chapter 11: New DNS Features in Windows 2000 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/dnswin2/chapter/ch11.html Web Design in a Nutshell, 2nd Editon http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut2/ Sample Chapter 13: Tables http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut2/chapter/ch13.html Enterprise JavaBeans, 3rd Edition http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/entjbeans3/ Sample Chapter 13: Message-Driven Beans http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/entjbeans3/chapter/ch13.html COM and .NET Component Services http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/comdotnetsvs/ Sample Chapter 10: .NET Serviced Components http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/comdotnetsvs/chapter/ch10.html Until next week, Denise ----- End forwarded message ----- From tony at kasei.com Fri Oct 5 02:34:28 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Apocalypse 3 is out In-Reply-To: <20011004105747.A5041@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011004105747.A5041@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011005083428.A15636@soto.kasei.com> On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 10:57:48AM +0100, Steve Rushe wrote: > For those of you who haven;t heard this by now, Apocalypse 3 is out. > Tis at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/02/apocalypse3.html And for those of you who haven't tried munging URLs and are waiting for a link on the front page of perl.com: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/03/exegesis3.html Tony From tony at kasei.com Sun Oct 7 14:10:31 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: Class::DBI 0.35 Message-ID: <20011007201031.A12279@soto.kasei.com> Class::DBI 0.35 is currently available from my CPAN directory: http://www.tmtm.com/CPAN/Class-DBI-0.35.tar.gz The main new feature is an experimental set of hooks which let you set up callbacks when an object is created, deleted or modified. I expect this to change over the next few versions, so I wouldn't recommend it for production code just yet, but I'd appreciate people playing with it for a while, and letting me know what else it should do. Thanks, Tony From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Oct 8 13:12:53 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: X-Echelon Message-ID: <20011008191253.A8927@futureless.org> If anyone is interested in my X-Echelon header adder, it is now available for download from: http://russell.matbouli.org/code/x-echelon/ Constructive criticism or sheer mockery welcomed. Cheers, Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Phone me when you get to Aldergrove. m. as ever. -- So they wnet off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Oct 8 13:59:01 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: X-Echelon In-Reply-To: <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from Stray Toaster on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:56:26PM +0100 References: <20011008191253.A8927@futureless.org> <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011008195901.B13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:56:26PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > Suzu, not this time. My head is shattered at the mo. Phone me when you > get to Aldergrove. > > m. as ever. > Arse. This message wasn't supposed to go here. Pay no attention to the message behind the curtain. Arse again. Remember kids, always look at what you are doing, and if you are a modemer ssh-ing in, look at where the wheel stops.... m. -- So they wnet off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From andrew-dated-1003005227.5377ce at rivendale.net Mon Oct 8 15:33:46 2001 From: andrew-dated-1003005227.5377ce at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: X-Echelon In-Reply-To: <20011008195901.B13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011008191253.A8927@futureless.org> <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011008195901.B13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011008213346.A427@gandalf.rivendale.net> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:59:01PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:56:26PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > > Suzu, not this time. My head is shattered at the mo. Phone me when you > > get to Aldergrove. > > > > m. as ever. > > > > Arse. This message wasn't supposed to go here. Pay no attention to the > message behind the curtain. Arse again. > > Remember kids, always look at what you are doing, and if you are a > modemer ssh-ing in, look at where the wheel stops.... Is that Brian Banks email address I see in the headers? ;-) cheers Andrew From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Oct 9 03:45:37 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: X-Echelon In-Reply-To: <20011008213346.A427@gandalf.rivendale.net>; from Andrew Wilson on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:33:46PM +0100 References: <20011008191253.A8927@futureless.org> <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011008195901.B13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011008213346.A427@gandalf.rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20011009094537.A19914@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:33:46PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > Is that Brian Banks email address I see in the headers? > > ;-) One gets the feeling that one will never live that one down. Put that on top of other comedic errors, I feel stupid. Again. m. -- So they wnet off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Tue Oct 9 06:48:40 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: X-Echelon In-Reply-To: <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011008191253.A8927@futureless.org> <20011008195626.A13182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011009124840.A15153@futureless.org> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 07:56:26PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Suzu, not this time. My head is shattered at the mo. Phone me when you > get to Aldergrove. Should I file this under constructive criticism of my code? ;) I only released this so I could try out pod and pod2text/pod2html really (and on the off chance that someone might want it). Cheers, Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011009/5263f310/attachment.bin From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Sat Oct 20 09:45:02 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: TT Message-ID: hey all, I've just installed TT (Template::Toolkit) on a server so i can have a play about. One of the things that intrested me the most about it was being able to store the templates in a mysql tabel but the documentation is a little sparse on the subject. I'm wondering if anyone could show me a quick example or point me in the right direction. ta! -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From tony at kasei.com Sat Oct 20 09:46:57 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: TT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011020154657.A17700@soto.kasei.com> On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 02:45:02PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > I've just installed TT (Template::Toolkit) on a server so i can have a play > about. One of the things that intrested me the most about it was being able > to store the templates in a mysql tabel but the documentation is a little > sparse on the subject. I'm wondering if anyone could show me a quick example > or point me in the right direction. Have a look at slashcode... Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ If I'm feigning coherence and calmness Laugh with me -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Fri Oct 26 11:32:15 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: perl and webservers Message-ID: hey, I'm looking for a way of being able to get a perl script(docroot/data/css.css) to be able to feed out css information based on a dynamic script. Also with a .js script. If anyone can tell me a way of doing this in apache config or a nice way in perl then it would be of great help. ta! -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From tony at kasei.com Fri Oct 26 11:38:21 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: perl and webservers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011026173821.A3618@soto.kasei.com> On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 04:32:15PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > I'm looking for a way of being able to get a perl > script(docroot/data/css.css) to be able to feed out css information based on > a dynamic script. Also with a .js script. > If anyone can tell me a way of doing this in apache config or a nice way in > perl then it would be of great help. What's the problem you're having with it? Tony From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Oct 26 12:27:27 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: geekery Message-ID: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml I only got 67%, so there. m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Oct 26 12:45:52 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:14 2004 Subject: geekery In-Reply-To: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from Stray Toaster on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100 References: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011026184552.J4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml > > I only got 67%, so there. Sometimes I outdo myself. What I meant was: http://www.fuali.com/Online_Tests/geek/ m. From swm at swmcc.com Fri Oct 26 13:19:01 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: geekery In-Reply-To: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100 References: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml > > I only got 67%, so there. I got 62%... but I guess you can add another 10% cos I done this on a Friday evening.. -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com I am not not licking frogs.. Homer Simpson From andrew at rivendale.net Fri Oct 26 14:13:08 2001 From: andrew at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: geekery In-Reply-To: <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> References: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Message-ID: <20011026201308.C3233@gandalf.rivendale.net> On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 07:19:01PM +0100, Stephen McCullough wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml > > > > I only got 67%, so there. > > I got 62%... but I guess you can add another 10% cos I done this on > a Friday evening.. Whoa! Deja list man cheers Andrew From russell-blug at futureless.org Fri Oct 26 18:16:27 2001 From: russell-blug at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Go Message-ID: <20011027001626.A20343@futureless.org> While we're making OT posts while drunk... Anyone interesting in forming a Belfast Go club (ie, Go the game)? This idea is gratuitously ripped off from London.pm, but hey! It was a good idea =) Russell, who saw Memento for the nth time tonight, excellent flick... -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One turds slide easily spooge the paste into my crack poop falls free no more -- Schwern From bazza at bazza.com Fri Oct 26 21:09:14 2001 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: geekery In-Reply-To: <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> References: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Message-ID: <20011027030914.A26663@bazza.com> On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 07:19:01PM +0100, swm mumbled: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml > > I only got 67%, so there. > I got 62%... but I guess you can add another 10% cos I done this on > a Friday evening.. YOU ARE 68% GEEK. Nerd, Freak, Geek, Dweeb. Sound familiar? That's okay, cause you will be the richest person at your 15th year high-school reunion. If a "con" isn't happening that weekend. or something, and I took that *after* a night out on the piss, don't ask how many time it took to click the right buttons -- -Barry Hughes If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will anyway. http://bazza.com/ From steve at unite.net Fri Oct 26 21:09:55 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: geekery References: <20011026182727.F4201@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011026191901.A24907@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> <20011027030914.A26663@bazza.com> Message-ID: <002501c15e8c$78ce4160$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> ----- Original Message ----- From: "barry" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:09 AM Subject: Re: geekery > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 07:19:01PM +0100, swm mumbled: > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:27:27PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/145.shtml > > > I only got 67%, so there. > > I got 62%... but I guess you can add another 10% cos I done this on > > a Friday evening.. > > YOU ARE 68% GEEK. I was only 48 % geek, but it hit me at a good time, at other times, that may go up/down by ~10-15% It's too late to say anything more, I'm about to fall asle.......... From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sat Oct 27 02:11:41 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Go In-Reply-To: <20011027001626.A20343@futureless.org>; from Russell Matbouli on Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 12:16:27AM +0100 References: <20011027001626.A20343@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20011027081141.C17282@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 12:16:27AM +0100, Russell Matbouli wrote: > While we're making OT posts while drunk... > > Anyone interesting in forming a Belfast Go club (ie, Go the game)? > > This idea is gratuitously ripped off from London.pm, but hey! It was a > good idea =) Yes, this is a good idea. Honestly. I would be in. Yes, the voices in my head say I have already replied to this, but I don't listen to them anymore, not after the fight club/i am a geek debacle. And I still can't believe that I turned out to be the geekiest. That is just wrong. Same as the gay test. wrong, wrong, wrong. I shouldn't be honest about my results, I suppose. m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From stevefoy at ntlworld.com Sun Oct 28 06:26:05 2001 From: stevefoy at ntlworld.com (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT Message-ID: <002801c15fab$b70b4520$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> Hi, Im trying to get perl to select stuff from a database, then pass it to template toolkit in an appropriate manner. The context is gig dates - so there will be, say 25 rows in the database, each containing details of a gig. Each must be processed by a FOREACH loop in the template. Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to get the data passed to the template in the right way? Thanks, Steve From tony at kasei.com Sun Oct 28 07:07:31 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT In-Reply-To: <002801c15fab$b70b4520$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> References: <002801c15fab$b70b4520$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> Message-ID: <20011028130731.A16769@soto.kasei.com> On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:26:05PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > Im trying to get perl to select stuff from a database, then pass it to > template toolkit in an appropriate manner. The context is gig dates - so > there will be, say 25 rows in the database, each containing details of a > gig. Each must be processed by a > FOREACH loop in the template. Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to > get the data passed to the template in the right way? use Class::DBI; (or use Class::DBI::mysql) Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ The problem is communication. Too much communication. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at unite.net Sun Oct 28 08:55:42 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT References: <002801c15fab$b70b4520$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> <20011028130731.A16769@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <003701c15fc0$9dee8a60$b237fe3e@kzuaymrx> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:26:05PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > > Im trying to get perl to select stuff from a database, then pass it to > > template toolkit in an appropriate manner. The context is gig dates - so > > there will be, say 25 rows in the database, each containing details of a > > gig. Each must be processed by a > > FOREACH loop in the template. Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to > > get the data passed to the template in the right way? > > use Class::DBI; > > (or use Class::DBI::mysql) Cheers, I ain't no perl wizard, but I'll give it a go :) Steve From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Oct 29 04:48:10 2001 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors Message-ID: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> ello Does anyone know where I can get an up-to-date list of the CPAN modules written by an author? I tried the modules list from CPAN (02packages.details.txt.gz) but it's rarely updated, and is often given incorrect information, such as reducing the version numbers of modules. So can anyone suggest a better alternative, or will I need to write something to query CPAN for it? Thanks Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Eeek, out of cheese error. From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 07:55:46 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT Message-ID: >Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to >get the data passed to the template in the right way? Here is a way i do it: -------------------------------------------------- ###################################################### # $fds is a hash reference of rows of data in a table ###################################################### foreach my $d (sort keys %{$fds}){ my $name = $fds->{"$d"}{"name"}; my $pic = $fds->{"$d"}{"pic"}; my $dob = $fds->{"$d"}{"dob"}; my $vars = { name => $name, pic => $pic, dob => $dob }; ############################################### # $t->template_by_name(); gets a template from # a table. ############################################### my $template = $t->template_by_name('fritab'); ############################################### # $t->give_me_html(); gives me html from the # processed template with $vars ############################################### $html .= $t->give_me_html($template,$vars); } -------------------------------------------------- the template(fritab) for example is just: >>[% name %] birthdate is [% dob %] and this is what they look like
<< so for each different row it will print out each persons info. hope it helps! -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From tony at kasei.com Mon Oct 29 08:26:30 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011029142630.A26750@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:55:46PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > >Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to > >get the data passed to the template in the right way? > > Here is a way i do it: You are on drugs, aren't you. Try: package Person; use strict; use base 'Class::DBI::mysql'; __PACKAGE__->set_db('Main', 'dbi:mysql:dbname', 'username', 'password'); __PACKAGE__->set_up_table('table_name'); 1; package main; use Template; my @people = Person->search_like(name => 'Hugh %'); my $tt = Template->new; $tt->process(\*DATA, { people => \@people } ) or die $tt->error; __END__ [% FOREACH person = people %]

[% name %]'s birthdate is [% dob %] and this is what they look like:

[% END %] Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ si me asesinan, resucitare en el alma del pueblo -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 29 08:55:42 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT References: <20011029142630.A26750@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <009901c16089$c836b8a0$e3a003d4@unite.net> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:55:46PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > >Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to > > >get the data passed to the template in the right way? > > > > Here is a way i do it: > > You are on drugs, aren't you. Yes, I think he is...it seems to have gone to his hair too ;-) Steve From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Oct 29 09:39:02 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors In-Reply-To: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:48:10AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > So can anyone suggest a better alternative, or will I need to write > something to query CPAN for it? IANACPANE, but 01modules.index.html seems to be what you want. Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011029/5837ef9e/attachment.bin From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com Mon Oct 29 09:38:55 2001 From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE13C@BELFAST2> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Bowden [mailto:tony@kasei.com] > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:27 PM > To: belfast-pm@pm.org > Subject: Re: Perl/MySQL/TT > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:55:46PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > >Can anyone give me a few pointers as to how to > > >get the data passed to the template in the right way? > > > > Here is a way i do it: > > You are on drugs, aren't you. Yeah, I was going to post a solution to the overall script, now I think I'll restrict myself to pointing out glaring style errors >> -------------------------------------------------- >> ###################################################### >> # $fds is a hash reference of rows of data in a table >> ###################################################### >> foreach my $d (sort keys %{$fds}){ >> my $name = $fds->{"$d"}{"name"}; >> my $pic = $fds->{"$d"}{"pic"}; >> my $dob = $fds->{"$d"}{"dob"}; >> >> my $vars = { >> name => $name, >> pic => $pic, >> dob => $dob >> }; >> >> ############################################### >> # $t->template_by_name(); gets a template from >> # a table. >> ############################################### >> my $template = $t->template_by_name('fritab'); >> >> >> ############################################### >> # $t->give_me_html(); gives me html from the >> # processed template with $vars >> ############################################### >> $html .= $t->give_me_html($template,$vars); >> } >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> the template(fritab) for example is just: >> >>[% name %] birthdate is [% dob %] and this is what they look like >>
<<> That's a phenomonally bad way to do that. Here are two betters ways 1) What's all that messing about constructing a hash ref you already have all about then? foreach my $d (sort keys %{$fds}) { my $vars = $fds->{$d} # ... the rest of your solution goes here } 2) better still do it all in the template my @data = map {$fds->{$_}} sort keys %{$fds}; my $template = $t->template_by_name('fruitab'); my $html = $t->give_me_html($template, @data); the give_me_html looks very like tony's process template and the template looks like [% foreach p = people %] >>[% p.name %] birthdate is [% p.dob %] and this is what they look like
<< [% END %] Note: I don't have perl here and haven't tried compiling these, they may have syntax errors. Of course the Class:DBI solution propounded by Tony is better again. cheers Andrew From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Mon Oct 29 10:00:28 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors In-Reply-To: <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org>; from russell-belfast-pm@futureless.org on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:39:02PM +0000 References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:39:02PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:48:10AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > > So can anyone suggest a better alternative, or will I need to write > > something to query CPAN for it? > > IANACPANE, but 01modules.index.html seems to be what you want. Nope, it also doesn't include all I want. My current quick and dirty test for usefulness is whether the file tells me about Marty's Crypt::Simple module. Both 01 and 02 don't mention it. My previous test was whether they mentioned the current version of Class::DBI, but that was dumped once it clicked that the CPAN version is 0.02 behind the latest version. Thanks for the suggestion though! Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From steve at unite.net Mon Oct 29 10:18:00 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <00f601c16095$47560d60$e3a003d4@unite.net> > > IANACPANE That sounds like it could be the name of a song by some crappy UK garage type "group" - one of those ones with an endless, repetitive beat, and totally meaningless words thrown in every now and then. mm... maybe not Steve From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 10:22:46 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT Message-ID: >1) What's all that messing about constructing a hash ref you already >have all about then? The thing i pasted was an edited version of my script. In my script i run some regexing on the values and see if i need to change them so that is why. ie: $name = $fds->{$i}{name} =~ /''/ ? '' : 'name = $fds->{$i}{name},'; >2) better still do it all in the template as i said before in my script i have to edit the values. >the give_me_html looks very like tony's process template and the >template >looks like sub give_me_html{ my $tt = Template->new(); my $template = shift; my $vars = shift; my $output; $tt->process(\$template,$vars,\$output); return $output; } (from memory) >Of course the Class:DBI solution propounded by Tony is better again. blah blah blah.... Class::DBI refuses to install (somewhat because i really would prefer not to use it). -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From wesley at yelsew.com Mon Oct 29 10:29:36 2001 From: wesley at yelsew.com (Wesley Darlington) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors In-Reply-To: <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk>; from steve-pmbelfast@blackstar.co.uk on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:00:28PM +0000 References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011029112935.A78538@paat.pair.com> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:00:28PM +0000, Steve Rushe wrote: > Nope, it also doesn't include all I want. My current quick and dirty > test for usefulness is whether the file tells me about Marty's > Crypt::Simple module. Both 01 and 02 don't mention it. My previous test > was whether they mentioned the current version of Class::DBI, but that > was dumped once it clicked that the CPAN version is 0.02 behind the > latest version. If a module isn't mentioned in the latest 0[123]* files then the CPAN shell won't be able to install it AFAIK. Crypt-Simple is on CPAN but isn't mentioned in any indexes. Wesley. From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Mon Oct 29 10:44:55 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Perl/MySQL/TT In-Reply-To: ; from sleepy_uk@hotmail.com on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:22:46PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20011029164455.A2228@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:22:46PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > The thing i pasted was an edited version of my script. In my script i run > some regexing on the values and see if i need to change them so that is why. > ie: $name = $fds->{$i}{name} =~ /''/ ? '' : 'name = $fds->{$i}{name},'; > > as i said before in my script i have to edit the values. TT allows you to edit values in a template, so I don't think that should be a problem. See http://www.template-toolkit.org/docs/plain/Manual/Variables.html for details. > >Of course the Class:DBI solution propounded by Tony is better again. > blah blah blah.... > Class::DBI refuses to install (somewhat because i really would prefer not to > use it). I must agree with Andrew and Tony, and encourage you to use Class::DBI. It is a remarkable time and code saver, getting much drudgery out of the way quickly. Also if you have a problem installing it, that you think is not your fault, let the author know. Authors love feedback, as the recent discussion on the london.pm list shows! bye for now Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me! Julius Caesar - Carry on Cleo From tony at kasei.com Mon Oct 29 13:18:52 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors In-Reply-To: <20011029112935.A78538@paat.pair.com> References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> <20011029112935.A78538@paat.pair.com> Message-ID: <20011029191852.A29179@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Wesley Darlington wrote: > If a module isn't mentioned in the latest 0[123]* files then the CPAN > shell won't be able to install it AFAIK. Crypt-Simple is on CPAN but > isn't mentioned in any indexes. Which caused me much consternation, recently... Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ we barely have time to react in this world let alone rehearse -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schwern at pobox.com Mon Oct 29 17:20:51 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Module list for authors In-Reply-To: <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011029054810.A45946@deeden.co.uk> <20011029153902.D1150@futureless.org> <20011029160028.A26154@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011029182051.A605@blackrider> On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:00:28PM +0000, Steve Rushe wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 03:39:02PM +0000, Russell Matbouli wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 05:48:10AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > > > So can anyone suggest a better alternative, or will I need to write > > > something to query CPAN for it? > > > > IANACPANE, but 01modules.index.html seems to be what you want. > > Nope, it also doesn't include all I want. My current quick and dirty > test for usefulness is whether the file tells me about Marty's > Crypt::Simple module. Both 01 and 02 don't mention it. 02packages.details.txt.gz is what you want, but sometimes the indexer gets a little confused. Just tell modules@perl.org about it and they'll give it a kick in the ass. -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One Don't be a lover, girl, I'd like to shamelessly hump your inner child. From tony at kasei.com Wed Oct 31 05:38:56 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... Message-ID: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> >From the site: Next Meeting: Second Monday of the month again as always! So far we have two gullible fools roped into giving talks, myself and Andrew. I'll be giving a talk on Mail::Audit, why it's so much nicer than procmail and why you should be using it to deal with your mail. Perhaps it should explain who "myself" is ? Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ we'll find some other crazy dream tomorrow -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Wed Oct 31 05:42:19 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... In-Reply-To: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com>; from tony@kasei.com on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:38:56AM +0000 References: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011031114219.A19235@blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:38:56AM +0000, Tony Bowden wrote: > > Perhaps it should explain who "myself" is ? Dum-de-dum-de-dum Don't know what you're talking about guv. Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Wed Oct 31 05:42:43 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:15 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... In-Reply-To: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com>; from Tony Bowden on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:38:56AM +0000 References: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011031114243.A14235@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:38:56AM +0000, Tony Bowden wrote: > > From the site: > > Next Meeting: > > Second Monday of the month again as always! So far we have two gullible > fools roped into giving talks, myself and Andrew. I'll be giving a talk > on Mail::Audit, why it's so much nicer than procmail and why you should > be using it to deal with your mail. > > Perhaps it should explain who "myself" is ? That would be Steve. It has his speech patterns stamped all over it. All over it. All over it, I say, dammit. m. lacking food, vitamins and gaining exponentially in symptoms -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing.