From jez at netcraft.com Wed Oct 6 09:14:55 1999 From: jez at netcraft.com (Jeremy Prior) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:58:07 2004 Subject: Perl Mongers Taking Trip to London ([Perl News] October 06, 1999) Message-ID: <199910061414.PAA28571@ns0.netcraft.com> One for the diary... From: Perl News Proprietor To: Perl News List Subject: [Perl News] October 06, 1999 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:53:15 -0400 (EDT) [0] Perl Mongers Taking Trip to London [User Groups] Perl Mongers are organizing a trip to London, departing November 26, and returning November 30. They'll be flying British Airways from JFK, PHL, and BWI airports, and upon arrival will be visiting with [1]London Perl Mongers, seeing a recreation of Alan Turing's Colossus (Bletchley Park), a recreation of Charles Babbage's Difference Engine #2, John Harrison's chronometers (the ones that solved the longitude problem), and so on. Spaces are limited, and reservations must be made by Friday, October 8, 1999. Call Equitable Travel at 1-800-221-TRAV. Might they be persuaded to visit an historic Roman/Georgian city during their short stay in the UK? :-) jez -- Jeremy Prior http://www.netcraft.co.uk/ Netcraft Ltd, 1 Somerset Street, Bath, BA1 1TS, England. Tel: +44-1225-404405 (direct-dial) Fax: +44-1225-404401 From leon at netcraft.com Thu Oct 7 10:18:40 1999 From: leon at netcraft.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:58:07 2004 Subject: Linux Expo Message-ID: <19991007161839.F3759@tigger.netcraft.com> So, what did you guys think of Linux Expo? I drove[1] down to London with some of Bath.pm yesterday and got in to Linux Expo from 11ish -> 4ish. I was so not impressed with the late registration system. They get you to write stuff out on cards, and then type it in to Windoze boxes in front of you. Methinks simple collecting business cards would have been 20x faster. I enter the hall and marvel as to how small it is. We rush off to see IBM's talk. The talks (um sorry "strategic conferences") are given in a small area of the expo (seating for ~100) which was already packed at 11am. Blimey. Don't manage to hear any of the talk, so we wander around instead. Stand summary: o Red Hat had lots of people demoing Red Hat, with lots of high-ranking people around, oh, and Alan Cox o Dell had a large stand with no-one of importance and only a business pc to show off. This was in deep contrast to IBM and Debian. We went up to them and asked why they didn't have any cool hardware. The response was: "Like what?" o Debian had a really small stand, but had a Libretto running Linux as well as other cool hardware o IBM had a Beowulf cluster of Netfinity servers in a rack, with a pop-out LCD screen and keyboard. They were also showing off Domino, DB2, and some other stuff o Oracle had a bit of a boring stand with a couple of Windows PC's showing off, um, stuff. Later on in the evening it looked like they were installing Red Hat on all of them ;-) o Intel had a closed presentation room for the Internet Economy. Boring, about two years old, boring, and he didn't mention Linux at all in his talk o Cache had a large stand with a huge rotating globe in the middle. They'd have done better if they'd explained what exactly a post-relational database was o Cobalt Networks had a small stand, but were showing some cool blue Raqs and Qubes. They had the best giveaway : a cool transparent blue pen o Alpha Processor Inc were there, with seriously large heatsinks on their chips Did I mention that the room was really small? Oh, I did. Let me mention it again: it was sooooo smallll. Anway, I also managed to get into the keynote by Bob Young of Red Hat [2], as well as "The Linux Debate". This was hard, and involved getting there an hour early, and sitting on the floor right at the front. Bob Young was very cool indeed. He's a great speaker and it was a wonderful talk. He explained that Red Hat was simply a brand, and that all that was going for it was the brand name. I guess this means that Red Hat might diversify into other arenas, but I'm not sure on this. A good line in his talk was that at one point he thought his target audience was both "rocket scientists working at NASA using Beowulf clusters" and "art students using Linux robots". People asked some stupid questions. "The Great Linux Debate" was a small debate between people from Oracle, Dell, Red Hat, Suse and IBM. The view I got was that Oracle and Dell aren't supporting Linux - they're only doing it because their big customers have asked them to do it. IBM is in it for the "solutions" money. Suse and Red Hat are doing it for the money and because it's good. The Suse guy didn't have a great command of English, but he had much better points than the other guys. A question asked was "When will SMP be enterprise-class in Linux?" and he started off by saying "Well, I was down in the pub having a beer with so-and-so, who is the Linux SMP guru, and he said...", bringing everyone back down to earth and showing that Linux isn't a corporation. Oh, and Bob Young slagged of the Sun Community License. So, in summary: the venue was pathetic, the exhibitors mostly had no clue, and Bob Young was cool. Leon "phew, that was long!" Brocard [1] The train track between Bath and London doesn't have a terribly good safety record atm... [2] Interesting story: we were sitting around having a coffee and I asked of my mates "Does Bob Young look like that?". And lo and behold it was he. -- Leon Brocard................................http://bath.pm.org/ leon@netcraft.com........................http://www.astray.com/ ... Human equality is a contingent fact of history From leon at netcraft.com Wed Oct 13 09:44:17 1999 From: leon at netcraft.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:58:07 2004 Subject: Meeting 1999-10-13 Message-ID: <19991013154417.N3558@tigger.netcraft.com> Well, to make up for last weeks, um, special Linux Expo '99 meeting we'll have a bumper one today. Special guest include that spatula and the cool Cobalt Networks pen. Be there or be..., well, online probably. Leon -- Leon Brocard................................http://bath.pm.org/ leon@netcraft.com........................http://www.astray.com/ ... 1 + 1 = ? Um, dunno, where's my calculator... From davidchewter at interim.com Mon Oct 18 05:59:15 1999 From: davidchewter at interim.com (David Chewter) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:58:07 2004 Subject: Perl Position Message-ID: <613A12FCB450D311B53600C04F44F6B316C928@exchange01.cronec.co.uk> Hello All I currently have a Perl contract vacancy based in London Docklands. 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