From ejaincom at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 16 07:58:07 2007
From: ejaincom at yahoo.com (abhishek jain)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:58:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] We have a new mailing list
Message-ID: <709363.13915.qm@web54505.mail.yahoo.com>

WOW! Bangalore.pm has a new mailing list.
This is a test mail.
Thanks,
Abhishek jain


 
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From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Fri Feb 16 08:28:38 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:28:38 -0200
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] We have a new mailing list
In-Reply-To: <709363.13915.qm@web54505.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <709363.13915.qm@web54505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0702160828j2709cad0vf73057715d4f76fb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi. I am not from India, but willing to discuss/learn/give hints on
Perl programming. Let's bring all the fun to these Perl mailing lists
outside the usual circles like London-pm, PDX-pm, etc.

A funny cartoon to start with:
http://xkcd.com/c224.html

Kind regards,
Adriano Ferreira

On 2/16/07, abhishek jain <ejaincom at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> WOW! Bangalore.pm has a new mailing list.
> This is a test mail.
> Thanks,
> Abhishek jain
>  ________________________________
> Need Mail bonding?
> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> _______________________________________________
> Bangalore-pm mailing list
> Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
>

From mail at webbee.biz  Fri Feb 16 09:19:20 2007
From: mail at webbee.biz (abhishek jain)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:49:20 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] We have a new mailing list
In-Reply-To: <73ddeb6c0702160828j2709cad0vf73057715d4f76fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <709363.13915.qm@web54505.mail.yahoo.com>
	<73ddeb6c0702160828j2709cad0vf73057715d4f76fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6ca21fc0702160919j5a7fc220r2971a58b178fce9d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
great...
I am delighted to see that someone was alive in this almost dormant group.
Requested to visit http://bangalore.pm.org and give your comments abt the
site/wiki there, i have used usemod there.
It is in development stage,
Any suggestions  will be heartly welcomed.
BTW you are from which city and what do you do , i mean how are u linked to
perl.
I am from bangalore and works in a s/w co. here in B'lore.
--
Thanks,
Abhishek jain



On 2/16/07, Adriano Ferreira <a.r.ferreira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi. I am not from India, but willing to discuss/learn/give hints on
> Perl programming. Let's bring all the fun to these Perl mailing lists
> outside the usual circles like London-pm, PDX-pm, etc.
>
> A funny cartoon to start with:
> http://xkcd.com/c224.html
>
> Kind regards,
> Adriano Ferreira
>
> On 2/16/07, abhishek jain <ejaincom at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > WOW! Bangalore.pm has a new mailing list.
> > This is a test mail.
> > Thanks,
> > Abhishek jain
> >  ________________________________
> > Need Mail bonding?
> > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bangalore-pm mailing list
> > Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bangalore-pm mailing list
> Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
>
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From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Fri Feb 16 11:01:46 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:01:46 -0200
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] We have a new mailing list
In-Reply-To: <e6ca21fc0702160919j5a7fc220r2971a58b178fce9d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <709363.13915.qm@web54505.mail.yahoo.com>
	<73ddeb6c0702160828j2709cad0vf73057715d4f76fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6ca21fc0702160919j5a7fc220r2971a58b178fce9d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0702161101m229f69b4tcc583430dd6008b4@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/16/07, abhishek jain <mail at webbee.biz> wrote:
> Hi,
> great...
> I am delighted to see that someone was alive in this almost dormant group.
> Requested to visit http://bangalore.pm.org and give your comments abt the
> site/wiki there, i have used usemod there.
> It is in development stage,
> Any suggestions  will be heartly welcomed.
> BTW you are from which city and what do you do , i mean how are u linked to
> perl.

I am from a city at the state of Minas Gerais, Brazil. I am linked to
Perl by a minor participation on world and national community, visible
here:

     http://search.cpan.org/~ferreira/ (CPAN directory)
     http://use.perl.org/~ferreira/ (at use.perl)
     http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=ferreira (at PerlMonks)
     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/cascavel-pm (Brazilian
"official" PM discussion list)
     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/triangulo-pm (local PM discussion list)

I hope we don't get very lonely in this discussion list for long.

Best regards,
Adriano Ferreira.

> I am from bangalore and works in a s/w co. here in B'lore.
> --
> Thanks,
> Abhishek jain
>
>
>
> On 2/16/07, Adriano Ferreira <a.r.ferreira at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I am not from India, but willing to discuss/learn/give hints on
> > Perl programming. Let's bring all the fun to these Perl mailing lists
> > outside the usual circles like London-pm, PDX-pm, etc.
> >
> > A funny cartoon to start with:
> > http://xkcd.com/c224.html
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Adriano Ferreira
> >
> > On 2/16/07, abhishek jain < ejaincom at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > WOW! Bangalore.pm has a new mailing list.
> > > This is a test mail.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Abhishek jain
> > >  ________________________________
> > > Need Mail bonding?
> > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Bangalore-pm mailing list
> > > Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bangalore-pm mailing list
> > Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
> >
>
>

From botsie at xfce.org  Fri Feb 16 21:37:17 2007
From: botsie at xfce.org (Biju Chacko)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:07:17 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Meets?
Message-ID: <45D6948D.8030402@xfce.org>

Hi,

I saw a request for a meeting place on the wiki. We can accommodate 
meetings of up to about 20 ppl in our conference rooms in SpikeSource.

We've got a projector too, if anybody wants to show stuff.

If you can give me a couple of days notice, I can arrange it. I can 
throw in free coffee and biscuits too. :-)

thanks,

-- b

From vinayakh at gmail.com  Sun Feb 18 04:36:56 2007
From: vinayakh at gmail.com (Vinayak Hegde)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:06:56 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Why Design Patterns aren't
Message-ID: <38940f3c0702180436q7353adfer8d473b999af01021@mail.gmail.com>

A presentation by MJD not just about Perl but sw industry.
interesting nevertheless.

http://perl.plover.com/yak/design/

-- Vinayak

From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 04:12:12 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:12 -0200
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Why Design Patterns aren't
In-Reply-To: <38940f3c0702180436q7353adfer8d473b999af01021@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38940f3c0702180436q7353adfer8d473b999af01021@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0702190412s4ce7758dscb09b1b953a01df6@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/18/07, Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh at gmail.com> wrote:
> A presentation by MJD not just about Perl but sw industry.
> interesting nevertheless.
>
> http://perl.plover.com/yak/design/

MJD rocks! He is cynical and corageous enough to expose the fallacies
behind design patterns which are not that useful even for C++ and
Java. And beyond that, he rereads the work of the guy known as the
inspiration of the design pattern trends, getting new insights which
have obscured by the Gang-of-four.

The presentation title could also be: "Who needs design patterns?" (at
least, the way they are today)

Cheers,
Adriano Ferreira.

From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 04:38:27 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:38:27 -0200
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Meets?
In-Reply-To: <45D6948D.8030402@xfce.org>
References: <45D6948D.8030402@xfce.org>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0702190438t6ff54139r3394470ab410457d@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/17/07, Biju Chacko <botsie at xfce.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I saw a request for a meeting place on the wiki. We can accommodate
> meetings of up to about 20 ppl in our conference rooms in SpikeSource.

I envy you guys for being in a city with such kind offers from
software companies. But that's ok, because where I live, the market
for Perl programming is just too small to organize such events. At
least, by now. I hope this changes in a not so long time.

> We've got a projector too, if anybody wants to show stuff.

In Bangalore, I wonder that there should be a lot of Perl developers
which could profit from and contribute to such meetings. Am I right?
The issue is that many of them can be so overwhelmed by their
day-to-day jobs, they really can't find the time and disposition for
attending. Because after all, the participation of the workforce of
Indian developers all around world is every time larger and I imagine
taking over the world should be a little tiring, isn't it?

> If you can give me a couple of days notice, I can arrange it. I can
> throw in free coffee and biscuits too. :-)

Hey, that's good incentive. Perl, coffee, biscuits, good chat. It
seems right. I hope you the best luck.

Adriano Ferreira.

From mail at webbee.biz  Wed Feb 21 07:39:58 2007
From: mail at webbee.biz (abhishek jain)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:09:58 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] mails at perl.org.in available for your use based on
	gmail
Message-ID: <e6ca21fc0702210739p1706dba7va3ebe91b9808b390@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Thanks Biju Chacko  for giving us a meeting place.
*Updates on bangalore.pm*

The site bangalore.pm.org was earlier hosted on a personal domain now it is
hosted on* perl.org.in* which looks a bit PERLish. :)
This enables one to give emails like you at perl.org.in for your use, so if you
like PERL and does want the reliability of gmail then just reply back and a
email you at perl.org.in will be created for you, some facts:

1) The emails will be hosted on gmail servers and hence no question of
security if you consider gmail to be full proof.
2) There is no register link , you need to email me for that so that  i can
create an email address for you. After than the usability will be all like
that of google mail , ie calenders, google talk , with full gmail features ,
etc etc...
3) I can not read your email as this is hosted on gmail, so your mails are
abhishek proof also :)
4) The login url will be http://mail.perl.org.in

Thanks  all and just a quick info we are getting new users everyday and
perhaps in march we can host an actual PERL meet.

Also to update you we have a wiki installed on http://bangalore.pm.org and
you can create your own pages on that, and upload your resumes there, as
Bangalore is a happening place on PERL so i know that the resumes visible on
http://perl.org.in/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browse&id=Resumes is better than
that on resume sites i would not name the resume sites.

In case you need any info feel free to contact me by a reply to the email or
via phone to 9986472452
Needless to mention that anyone reading this email is asked to give a
feedback either on wiki or a reply to this email,
Your contribution is paramount to the success of this official PERL group.
All the users are welcomed for the emails not necessarily those of
bangalore.

Thanks,
-- 
Abhishek Jain
http://perl.org.in/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Abhishek
bangalore.pm.org
--
        If you consider these kind of emails as spam pl. reply so that these
emails are not repeated again.
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From call.anirban at gmail.com  Wed Feb 21 22:17:20 2007
From: call.anirban at gmail.com (Anirban Ghosh)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:47:20 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] A email creation request & few comments
Message-ID: <72caf55a0702212217i5ccc30bct296cc1b7019c7edf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Abhishek,

First of all congrats for creating this forum.
I hope this group goes a long way in providing a platform for Perl
Programmers in India (and not only Bangalore ;-) ).

By the way, can you create a email id for me? - anirban at perl.org.in
Having a gmail hosted email id with a custom domain like perl.org.in is a
real good idea! Congrats once again.

One confusion: The email post says "You can reach the person managing the
list at  bangalore-pm-owner at pm.org", but emails are bouncing from this id.
The Auto-response talks of an alternate id which is mail at webbee.biz ? I got
a little bit confused!

Regards,
Anirban Ghosh
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From mail at webbee.biz  Thu Feb 22 01:15:36 2007
From: mail at webbee.biz (abhishek jain)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:45:36 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] A email creation request & few comments
In-Reply-To: <72caf55a0702212217i5ccc30bct296cc1b7019c7edf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <72caf55a0702212217i5ccc30bct296cc1b7019c7edf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6ca21fc0702220115r2c547e6ft97f54c70302ab46d@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/22/07, Anirban Ghosh <call.anirban at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Abhishek,
>
> First of all congrats for creating this forum.
> I hope this group goes a long way in providing a platform for Perl
> Programmers in India (and not only Bangalore ;-) ).
>
> By the way, can you create a email id for me? - anirban at perl.org.in
> Having a gmail hosted email id with a custom domain like perl.org.in is a
> real good idea! Congrats once again.
>
> One confusion: The email post says "You can reach the person managing the
> list at  bangalore-pm-owner at pm.org", but emails are bouncing from this id.
> The Auto-response talks of an alternate id which is mail at webbee.biz ? I
> got a little bit confused!
>
> Regards,
> Anirban Ghosh
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bangalore-pm mailing list
> Bangalore-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/bangalore-pm
>


Hi Anirban,
The email id created and the password sent sepertately to your old
gmail address.
Thanks for such kind words about this group, we all have to work for this
fantastic PERL group to make it superb.
Actually bangalore-pm-owner at pm.org has not been configured to redirect the
mails to mail [at] webbee so i placed an autoresponse to tell that place all
communications to that id. mail [at] webbee biz is mine personal id.
Now i know one thing for sure that this is groing to be a happening PERL
group.
Thanks again and pl. persuade all other of your friends to join the mailing
list and i request to create a wiki page at
http://perl.org.in/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=edit&id=AnirbanGhosh  for other
people to know about you.

-- 
Regards,
Abhishek Jain
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From anirban at perl.org.in  Thu Feb 22 07:46:36 2007
From: anirban at perl.org.in (Anirban Ghosh)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:16:36 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Is it time for Perl Certification?
Message-ID: <f45c0cc70702220746n60fb3237m5eba46e002a63818@mail.gmail.com>

Time to kick off some debate ... so how relevant and important do you think
is a Perl Certification?
Here <http://www.byte.com/documents/s=7801/byt1069094656366/1117_maher.html>is
an interesting article from Tim Maher. It was written in 2003, but I
feel
things are pretty much the same even after 4 years.

Share your thoughts!

-- 
Anirban Ghosh
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From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Thu Feb 22 09:51:13 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:13 -0200
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] [FUN] Test Shows 99.99% of High School Seniors Can't
	Read Perl
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0702220951k4b5d7d6pba70bac7477f9785@mail.gmail.com>

An old funny history, to cheer up Perl programmers' hearts:
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/03/perl_test.html

(Remember, this is BBSpot, "the world's greatest tech humour site":
http://www.bbspot.com/Legal/about.html)

I bet we can collect some ideas for the Perl certification at the article.

Adriano Ferreira.

From alex.jamestin at gmail.com  Thu Feb 22 20:17:15 2007
From: alex.jamestin at gmail.com (Alex Jamestin)
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:17:15 -0500
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Is it time for Perl Certification?
In-Reply-To: <f45c0cc70702220746n60fb3237m5eba46e002a63818@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45c0cc70702220746n60fb3237m5eba46e002a63818@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36d2ae560702222017m47d1f82hb53e1aa50ed8dd75@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Anyone into the catalyst web framework? Im trying to pick it up to develop
some web-apps that i had in mind. Just wanted to know if anyone else in
blore is on the same lane :)

ciao,
Alex
PS: Great group for a great language. Lets keep this free of spam and
pointless articles. There's enough of that already on the web.  ^_^
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From abhas at deeproot.co.in  Thu Feb 22 20:22:19 2007
From: abhas at deeproot.co.in (Abhas Abhinav)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:52:19 +0530
Subject: [Bangalore-pm] Is it time for Perl Certification?
In-Reply-To: <36d2ae560702222017m47d1f82hb53e1aa50ed8dd75@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f45c0cc70702220746n60fb3237m5eba46e002a63818@mail.gmail.com>
	<36d2ae560702222017m47d1f82hb53e1aa50ed8dd75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070223042219.GA11418@deeproot.co.in>

Hi Alex!

On 23:17, Thu 22 Feb 07, Alex Jamestin wrote:
> Anyone into the catalyst web framework? Im trying to pick it up to develop
> some web-apps that i had in mind. Just wanted to know if anyone else in
> blore is on the same lane :)

We, at DeepRoot Linux, use Catalyst for whole lot of Free Software
application development work. I guess we have been using it for almost
an year now!

My colleague, Isaac, gave a small presentation on Catalyst at last
year's FOSS.IN. You can find more details on the following wiki:

  http://wiki.deeproot.in/Catalyst/

Lets meet up sometime. It would be interesting to know what sort of
stuff you are doing with Catalyst.

Cheers, Abhas.
-- 
i-take-charge at DeepRoot Linux
http://www.deeproot.in / +91 (80) 4112 4784 / 85
Getting GNU/Linux to work for you. Faster. Better. Today. Every way.