FW: Perl vs Java (XML Modules)

[David Waldo]

I came in this morning and saw this on the mod_perl
mainling list. More info about Perl XML modules:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:matt at sergeant.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:23 PM
> To: Drew Taylor
> Cc: Stas Bekman; brian moseley; mod_perl list
> Subject: Perl vs Java (XML Modules)
> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Drew Taylor wrote:
> 
> > I know this goes a little off topic, so I apologize in advance.
> 
> I changed the topic for you :-)
> 
> > One big sticking point with Perl I'm just starting to run 
> into is XML.
> > Yes, Perl has great XML modules, and many more promising 
> ones. But where
> > is the _validating_ XML parser? I'm doing some XML work where a
> > validating parser would be very nice, speed hit or not. I can work
> > around it easily (this is perl :-), but it would save me some work.
> 
> XML::Checker.
> Also see www.perl.com which links to Kip Hampton's XML.com 
> article about
> validating using XPath.
> 
> > The XML & Java combination has a LOT more corporate 
> resources (read $$$)
> > focused on it than Perl & XML. How many Java-based XML software
> > announcements have you seen lately? Now compare that to 
> Perl-based XML
> > modules. The numbers don't compare very well. What can we 
> do about this?
> 
> Very little, except produce our own XML modules that can do 
> our work. And
> you can help by praising those that do produce good XML modules and by
> using the modules that work rather than those that don't 
> (hint: XML::XPath
> vs XML::DOM with XML::XQL). Apart from validation, what are 
> you missing?
> 
> > I can't help write a validating parser, but I would be happy to help
> > test it out. IMHO, more XML support would help sell perl into more
> > corporate settings. Java is big into buzzwords, and XML is 
> one of the
> > biggest there is at the moment. And as we know PHBs like 
> buzzwords, so
> > that is one more point in Java's favor.
> 
> Actually XML is one area where mod_perl kicks Java's butt in 
> some ways.
> AxKit is *faster* than Cocoon. Please test and see for yourself if you
> don't believe me. And building XML based web sites with AxKit 
> is *really*
> easy. I built modperl.sergeant.org in 10 days of spare time, 
> including a
> content management system for the news articles (note that 
> half of the CMS
> code is just a plain mod_perl handler). I'll stick an article online
> shortly about how the site is constructed.
> 
> -- 
> <Matt/>
> 
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>    //||    **  AxKit.com Ltd   **  ** XML Application Serving **
>   // ||    ** http://axkit.org **  ** XSLT, XPathScript, XSP  **
>  // \\| // **     Personal Web Site: http://sergeant.org/     **
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