From pablo at eudoramail.com Fri Jul 2 11:59:10 1999 From: pablo at eudoramail.com (Pablo S. Jusem) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First meeting location proposal Message-ID: Hi all. Just a suggestion for a meeting time and place: Thursday, July 8th, 7-9 pm, at the Daily Grind. The Daily Grind is a cafe at 501 W Cold Spring Road, next to Loco Hombre/Alonso's, in front of Sam's Bagels, a block down from Video Americain, between Charles Street and Roland Avenue, one mile east of the JFX Cold Spring exit. Herewith is a link to a map: http://yp3.superpages.com/supermaps/mapinit.phtml?CID=54991519208&T=baltimore&LC=2&N=daily+grind&PG=L&PM=00000010&PS=8&STYPE=S&R=N&SRC=by&S=MD&MC=&map.x=212&map.y=125&level=8&lat=0393445&lng=-0766310&POI1lat=0393445&POI1lng=-0766310&POI1name=Daily+Grind+Coffee&streetaddress=&city=Baltimore&state=MD&zip=21210&LID=993104462&LS=&display=1&AD=&GV=0&GL=&FN= Ouch! It actually works, as long as you copy and paste. If you'd rather, go to bigyellow.com and look up the Daily Grind. And if you like, driving directions are found through this link: http://yp3.superpages.com/mapquest/cgi-bin/mqtripplus.cgi?var1=yp3.superpages.com&var2=none&var9=by&var10=S&CITY_DESTINATION=Baltimore&STATE_DESTINATION=MD&ADDR_DESTINATION=501+West+Cold+Spring+Lane Please suggest alternative meeting spaces and/or times. This is just to get us started. Do we ultimately want a place where a computer and overhead projector would be available? One idea might be to "double-up" with another user group. UMBC has a LUG, Linux Users Group, that meets on a regular basis at a nice classroom at UMBC on Tuesdays and Sundays. I've only been to one meeting. It would seem natural to have a PUG meet before or after a LUG. Here is the UMBC LUG page: http://linux.umbc.edu/umbc-lug/ While looking up this page (at www.linux.org), I noticed a new LUG has started in Charles Village. I'll try and get more info. Finally, by way of introduction, since this is my first message to the list, a line about me: My name is Pablo Jusem. I live in Baltimore and work in DC supporting an officeful of Macs. I'm just learning Perl and slowly trodding through the llama book. I'm also getting up to speed on Linux so that I can retire an ancient Mac server that keeps on falling (and can't get up). #!/usr/bin/perl $signed = ; if ($signed eq "Pablo") { print "Sincerely, $signed"; } else {print "This message may have been forged"; } Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 2 13:51:27 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: FW: First Meeting Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB067@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Pablo, Your suggestion of "The Daily Grind" on Cold Spring Road @ 7:00p.m. on July 8 sounds fine to me (Assuming I can figure out how to get there :-) How about the rest of the group though? Does this fit into everyone's schedule, who wants to come that is? If not, can someone give an alternative time, date or place? Rob Manning Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Manning, Rob > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:40 AM > To: 'Pablo S. Jusem' > Subject: RE: FW: First Meeting > > Pablo, > > Great! No meeting place has been decided on yet. Any > suggestions? > I'm still waiting on feedback from others as to time, data and place. > > Rob > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pablo S. Jusem [SMTP:pablo@eudoramail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 9:57 AM > To: Manning, Rob > Subject: Re: FW: First Meeting > > Rob, > > Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. > > I am interested in meeting after the holiday. I would suggest > any Tuesday thru Friday evening after 7 pm. As fas as topics are > concerned, I would be interested in topics for those who are new to > Perl, such as myself. > > Have you established a meeting place? > > Many thanks. > Pablo > -- > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:36:18 Manning, Rob wrote: > >It doesn't look like anyone is using the list but > >my apologies if you've gotten this twice... > > > > > >Rob Manning > manningr@tcsnet.net > >Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > >TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Manning, Rob > >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:30 PM > >> To: 'baltimore-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' > >> Subject: First Meeting > >> > >> All, > >> This is just to kick off discussion about the first > >> meeting of the Baltimore Perl Mongers. I propose sometime > >> in July after the holiday. I'm open for suggestions on date, > > >> time and place. Perhaps we could say the nth weekday of > >> each month to make it easier for folks to plan this into > >> their schedule. I'm pretty much free each night of the > >> week in general. Saturdays are a possibilty as well. > >> > >> Anyone have any Perl issues they want to discuss? > >> Maybe Perl/Tk, Apache/ModPerl, Perl for Win32, etc... > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> > >> Rob Manning > manningr@tcsnet.net > >> Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) > 396-3922 > >> TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > >> > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora > Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com Fri Jul 2 15:07:49 1999 From: dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: FW: First Meeting Message-ID: <19990702200749.6625.rocketmail@web127.yahoomail.com> Rob, That probably works for me. There's a chance I'll be out of town but I don't have a firm date on that trip yet. I'll try to schedule so that I can be there. Dan --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > Pablo, > > Your suggestion of "The Daily Grind" on Cold Spring Road @ > 7:00p.m. on > July 8 sounds fine to me (Assuming I can figure out how to get there > :-) > > > How about the rest of the group though? Does this fit into > everyone's > schedule, > who wants to come that is? If not, can someone give an alternative > time, > date or place? > > Rob Manning > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Manning, Rob > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:40 AM > > To: 'Pablo S. Jusem' > > Subject: RE: FW: First Meeting > > > > Pablo, > > > > Great! No meeting place has been decided on yet. Any > > suggestions? > > I'm still waiting on feedback from others as to time, data and > place. > > > > Rob > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pablo S. Jusem [SMTP:pablo@eudoramail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 9:57 AM > > To: Manning, Rob > > Subject: Re: FW: First Meeting > > > > Rob, > > > > Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. > > > > I am interested in meeting after the holiday. I would suggest > > any Tuesday thru Friday evening after 7 pm. As fas as topics are > > concerned, I would be interested in topics for those who are new to > > Perl, such as myself. > > > > Have you established a meeting place? > > > > Many thanks. > > Pablo > > -- > > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:36:18 Manning, Rob wrote: > > >It doesn't look like anyone is using the list but > > >my apologies if you've gotten this twice... > > > > > > > > >Rob Manning > > manningr@tcsnet.net > > >Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > >TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Manning, Rob > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 4:30 PM > > >> To: 'baltimore-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' > > >> Subject: First Meeting > > >> > > >> All, > > >> This is just to kick off discussion about the first > > >> meeting of the Baltimore Perl Mongers. I propose sometime > > >> in July after the holiday. I'm open for suggestions on date, > > > > >> time and place. Perhaps we could say the nth weekday of > > >> each month to make it easier for folks to plan this into > > >> their schedule. I'm pretty much free each night of the > > >> week in general. Saturdays are a possibilty as well. > > >> > > >> Anyone have any Perl issues they want to discuss? > > >> Maybe Perl/Tk, Apache/ModPerl, Perl for Win32, etc... > > >> > > >> Rob > > >> > > >> > > >> Rob Manning > > manningr@tcsnet.net > > >> Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) > > 396-3922 > > >> TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > >> > > > > > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora > > Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 2 15:21:56 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Perl Mongers? Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB06E@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Great! That's three of us cofirmed and possibly a fourth. Anyone else? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Sambrook [SMTP:don@softwork-orange.com] > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:13 PM > To: Manning, Rob > Subject: RE: Perl Mongers? > > That's good for me. I'll be there if I don't here otherwise. > > At 03:10 PM 7/2/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Archie, > > Good timing! The group is in the process of determining the > >first meeting's date, time and place. The suggestion that I've > gotten > >so far is "The Daily Grind" on Cold Spring Road at 7:00p.m. on > >July 8 (Next Thursday night) - directions to be provided. Is this > >good for you? If not an alternative? > > > >Also you may want to subscribe to our list by sending > >mail to majordomo@hfb.pm.org with the line > > > >subscribe baltimore-pm-list > > > >Postings should go to baltimore-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > > >I'll use the list to make announcements in the future. > > > >Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > >Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > >TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Archie Warnock [SMTP:warnock@awcubed.com] > >> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 2:48 PM > >> To: rmanning@erols.com > >> Subject: Perl Mongers? > >> > >> Hi Rob, > >> > >> I'm interested in finding out more about the Baltimore Perl > Mongers. > >> I'm in Columbia, MD. Please send information or a link when you > have > >> time. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Archie > >> > >> -- Archie Warnock Internet: > warnock@awcubed.com > >> -- A/WWW Enterprises Phone/FAX: 301-854-2987 > >> -- http://www.awcubed.com > >> -- As a matter of fact, I _do_ speak for my employer. From rmanning at erols.com Sat Jul 3 20:56:20 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First Meeting Message-ID: <377EBF43.C10F1C4A@erols.com> All, I took the wife and kid to "The Daily Grind" cafe today. It's a very cool place. Lot's of choices for coffee, sandwiches and desserts (Yummy and informal!) I snagged a menu and I'll place it on the website(http://baltimore.pm.org/menu.html) if anyone is interested. It is on the corner of Cold Sring Lane and Schenley Ave. I talked with one of the attendants and she said that groups were no problem and that the best nights would be either Monday or Wednesday. There is plenty of parking in back of the building. One snag however with our current schedule is that just recently they've instituted Salsa night on Thursday evenings beginning at 7:00 p.m. Apparently there is this fella (I think she said Raoul was his name?) who gives free salsa dance lessons. She said they clear the floor of the tables and it gets pretty loud. I'd suggest that we postpone the meeting to the following week, perhaps Monday July 12th - that may also give more folks an oppurtunity to come as some have said that this week would be bad for them. I'm also available on Wednesday the 14th as well. If either day is good for most, perhaps we should just say we'll meet the second Monday of every month. Comments? Rob Manning P.S. I've also registered us with O'Reilly and Associates so at some point we should be able to get discounts ;-) From rmanning at erols.com Sun Jul 4 12:50:45 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First Meeting References: <19990704132951.17959.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <377F9EF5.136305E0@erols.com> Dan, I'd say let's try Monday the 12th and see how that fits into the group's schedule. Anyone else have a preference for Monday the 12th or Wednesday the 14th? (Keep in mind these are just the days that the attendant told me were relatively slow for them - I'm also available on Tuesday the 13th and Friday the 16th). Rob Dan Jacobson wrote: > Rob, > > Was that a proposal for Monday the 12th or Wed. the 14th? Either is > okay by me. My travel schedule is hard to predict for the next three > weeks or so. I'll try to schedule things so that I can make it. > > Dan > > --- Rob Manning wrote: > > All, > > > > I took the wife and kid to "The Daily Grind" cafe today. It's a > > very cool > > place. Lot's of choices for coffee, sandwiches and desserts (Yummy > > and > > informal!) > > I snagged a menu and I'll place it on the > > website(http://baltimore.pm.org/menu.html) if anyone is interested. > > It > > is on the corner of Cold Sring Lane and Schenley Ave. I talked with > > one > > of the attendants and she said that groups were no problem and that > > the > > best > > nights would be either Monday or Wednesday. There is plenty of > > parking > > in back of the building. One snag however with our current schedule > > is > > that just > > recently they've instituted Salsa night on Thursday evenings > > beginning > > at 7:00 p.m. > > Apparently there is this fella (I think she said Raoul was his name?) > > who gives > > free salsa dance lessons. She said they clear the floor of the > > tables > > and it gets pretty loud. I'd suggest that we postpone the meeting to > > the following week, > > perhaps Monday July 12th - that may also give more folks an > > oppurtunity > > to > > come as some have said that this week would be bad for them. I'm > > also > > available on Wednesday the 14th as well. If either day is good for > > most, perhaps we should > > just say we'll meet the second Monday of every month. Comments? > > > > Rob Manning > > > > P.S. I've also registered us with O'Reilly and Associates so at some > > point we should > > be able to get discounts ;-) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From pablo at eudoramail.com Tue Jul 6 07:57:00 1999 From: pablo at eudoramail.com (Pablo S. Jusem) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First Meeting Message-ID: I'm open to every day except Monday. Wednesday the 14th would be ideal. Salsa lessons don't sound too bad either... Pablo Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Tue Jul 6 08:26:42 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First Meeting Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB071@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Well, I guess this means we'll have the meeting on Wednesday the 14th. I'll update the web-site. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pablo S. Jusem [SMTP:pablo@eudoramail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 8:57 AM > To: Baltimore Perl Mongers Listser > Subject: Re: First Meeting > > I'm open to every day except Monday. Wednesday the 14th would be > ideal. Salsa lessons don't sound too bad either... > > Pablo > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail > account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Tue Jul 6 09:06:16 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: First Meeting Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB075@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Bruce, Oops! Well we have a conflict. So far the only day that is a problem for some is Monday. So I've moved the meeting to Wednesday night. Perhaps you can still make it? One of the things I intend to bring up at the meeting will be a specific time, date and place each month for us to meet, so that folks can better schedule this. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Bailey [SMTP:bbailey@clark.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:21 AM > To: 'Rob Manning' > Subject: RE: First Meeting > > I like Monday better than Wednesday. > > ---------- > From: Rob Manning[SMTP:rmanning@erols.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 1:50 PM > To: Dan Jacobson > Cc: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: First Meeting > > Dan, > I'd say let's try Monday the 12th and see how that fits into > the > group's schedule. > > Anyone else have a preference for Monday the > 12th or Wednesday the 14th? (Keep in mind these are just the days > that the attendant told me were relatively slow for them - I'm > also available on Tuesday the 13th and Friday the 16th). > > Rob > > Dan Jacobson wrote: > > > Rob, > > > > Was that a proposal for Monday the 12th or Wed. the 14th? Either is > > okay by me. My travel schedule is hard to predict for the next > three > > weeks or so. I'll try to schedule things so that I can make it. > > > > Dan From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Tue Jul 13 08:44:11 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB087@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> All, Just a note to remind you about tommorrow night's meeting (7:00p.m. @ "The Daily Grind" - for directions see http://baltimore.pm.org). So far the itinerary is as follows - suggestions are welcome: - Individual Introductions - Perl resource review We'll review available books and websites that provide a technical reference to some aspect of Perl - bring your favorite! Anyone care to comment on the worthiness of subscribing to "The Perl Journal"? - Open Forum Are there issues you've struggled with in using Perl that your curious whether others have had as well? Or just a simple question about a current problem you're trying to apply Perl to? This will be an excellent opportunity to pose the question real-time. - Miscellaneous Group Issues Meeting time, date and place. Suggestions for topics discussed at future meetings. Design suggestions for the website - I'm not an artist and I won't be offended if someone would like to redo it/ take charge of it. Any other items I've left out... Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Thu Jul 15 15:34:44 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Perl Mongers Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB092@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> All, For those of us who weren't able to attend last night's meeting, it was by all accounts a success. There were 12 people in attendance and the experience level ranged from not having used Perl at all - but interested in learning - to several years of experience - and still interested in learning. We decided that the group should meet on the first Tuesday of the month and that the meeting place will continue to be "The Daily Grind", from 7:00 - 9:00p.m. After informal introductions the technical aspects of Perl that were discussed last night ranged from Perl as an alternative to other web-scripting languages (such as VBScript, PHP, ASP..) to using Perl on the Win32 platform for automating system administration as well as the interaction between Perl and the OS be it Unix or win32. I've updated the mailing list so that those who were at last night's meeting and on the list now are. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 16 11:14:39 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB09D@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> All, Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. area. He said he'd be glad to speak at our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" him. That of course means a place for him to stay - got that covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What does everyone think? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 From dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 11:39:09 1999 From: dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <19990716163909.7641.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Rob, Sounds great. Does he have any idea when he'll next be in Baltimore? If not then sounds like another opportunity for corporate sponsorship :-). Dan --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > All, > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" > him. > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > does everyone think? > > Rob > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 16 11:46:23 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A1@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Actually I just got a response from Mark on that, and it looks like not until sometime in September. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Jacobson [SMTP:dan_a_jacobson@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 12:39 PM > To: Manning, Rob; 'Baltimore PM List' > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > Rob, > > Sounds great. Does he have any idea when he'll next be in Baltimore? > If not then sounds like another opportunity for corporate sponsorship > :-). > > Dan > > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > All, > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will > "sponsor" > > him. > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > does everyone think? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From James.Genus.Jr at nsc.com Fri Jul 16 12:38:25 1999 From: James.Genus.Jr at nsc.com (James Genus Jr) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <"08B02378F6E11064*/c=US/admd= /prmd=National/o=notes/ou=Americas/s=Genus Jr/g=James/"@MHS> great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to use for contributions for a case like this? James Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) Subject: Special Guest Speaker All, Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. area. He said he'd be glad to speak at our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" him. That of course means a place for him to stay - got that covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What does everyone think? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 16 14:34:38 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A4@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> James, Not sure, but I'd say that would have to be the impromptu guest speaker fund. :-) I suppose in this case one person (perhaps myself) should purchase the ticket and at the meeting contributions could be collected to reimburse that individual's expense? How many would favor this type of arrangement for the next meeting? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: James Genus Jr [SMTP:James.Genus.Jr@nsc.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:38 PM > To: Rob_Manning > Cc: baltimore-pm-list > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to use > for > contributions for a case like this? > > James > > > > > Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM > To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet > cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) > Subject: Special Guest Speaker > > All, > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" > him. > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > does everyone think? > > Rob > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > From James.Genus.Jr at nsc.com Fri Jul 16 14:41:09 1999 From: James.Genus.Jr at nsc.com (James Genus Jr) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <"08B02378F8AD54AB*/c=US/admd= /prmd=National/o=notes/ou=Americas/s=Genus Jr/g=James/"@MHS> I realised the answer the minute I had pressed send...hehehe I'd be more than happy to pitch in! James Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 03:36:00 PM To: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC@NSC cc: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet Subject: RE: Special Guest Speaker James, Not sure, but I'd say that would have to be the impromptu guest speaker fund. :-) I suppose in this case one person (perhaps myself) should purchase the ticket and at the meeting contributions could be collected to reimburse that individual's expense? How many would favor this type of arrangement for the next meeting? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: James Genus Jr [SMTP:James.Genus.Jr@nsc.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:38 PM > To: Rob_Manning > Cc: baltimore-pm-list > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to use > for > contributions for a case like this? > > James > > > > > Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM > To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet > cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) > Subject: Special Guest Speaker > > All, > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" > him. > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > does everyone think? > > Rob > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > From kcline at c3i.saic.com Fri Jul 16 14:55:09 1999 From: kcline at c3i.saic.com (Ken Cline) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A4@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Manning, Rob wrote: > James, > Not sure, but I'd say that would have to be the > impromptu guest speaker fund. :-) > > I suppose in this case one person (perhaps myself) should purchase > the ticket and at the meeting contributions could be > collected to reimburse that individual's expense? > > How many would favor this type of arrangement for the > next meeting? That's fine with me. Do you accept e-cash? Is it just travel expenses? Ken. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Genus Jr [SMTP:James.Genus.Jr@nsc.com] > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:38 PM > > To: Rob_Manning > > Cc: baltimore-pm-list > > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > > great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to use > > for > > contributions for a case like this? > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM > > To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet > > cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) > > Subject: Special Guest Speaker > > > > All, > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will "sponsor" > > him. > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I just > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > does everyone think? > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Ken Cline kcline@c3i.saic.com SAIC VOICE (410) 571-0413 Annapolis, MD FAX (301) 261-8427 From sandoz at umbc.edu Fri Jul 16 15:10:53 1999 From: sandoz at umbc.edu (James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A4@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Message-ID: > How many would favor this type of arrangement for the > next meeting? Heck. I'm game. I see a problem and an opportunity. Problem: MJD is a Perl Jedi. I believe he'll attract far more than the dozen of us who came to the original meeting. I suggest that on the web page announcement you ask those interested in attending to respond so that we can have an alternate place to meet if needed. I'll check here at umbc.... Just talked to someone and he needs to know if computers are required. There's a problem if they are, since each user would need to be granted temporary access to the system. We _are_ talking about Aug3? Opportunity: Here I'm fishing. But it seems that there are a lot of companies which just love to throw money at groups such as perlmongers. I may be dreaming, but does anyone have any idea for leads? Active State? Red Hat? Other? Jim Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, 1000 Hilltop Circle Catonsville, MD 21250 voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 16 15:58:28 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A8@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Jim, You raise alot a good points. I was going to suggest that we look for a bigger venue for "special" guest speaker meetings. In the back of my mind I just assumed that we could use a campus room. But perhaps the network connection may not be necessary - a laptop could be used when hooked up to a 19/21-inch monitor for a group of 20 people or so. I will definitely make sure to specify on the website to RSVP should we go ahead with this. August 3rd is what I had in mind to ask Mark about - assuming the group is in favor of it. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC) [SMTP:sandoz@umbc.edu] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 4:11 PM > To: Manning, Rob > Cc: 'James Genus Jr'; 'Baltimore PM List' > Subject: RE: Special Guest Speaker > > > How many would favor this type of arrangement for the > > next meeting? > > Heck. I'm game. > > I see a problem and an opportunity. Problem: MJD is a Perl Jedi. I > believe he'll attract far more than the dozen of us who came to the > original meeting. I suggest that on the web page announcement you ask > those interested in attending to respond so that we can have an > alternate > place to meet if needed. I'll check here at umbc.... > > Just talked to someone and he needs to know if computers are required. > There's a problem if they are, since each user would need to be > granted > temporary access to the system. We _are_ talking about Aug3? > > Opportunity: Here I'm fishing. But it seems that there are a lot of > companies which just love to throw money at groups such as > perlmongers. I > may be dreaming, but does anyone have any idea for leads? Active > State? > Red Hat? Other? > > Jim > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > 1000 Hilltop Circle > Catonsville, MD 21250 > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu > > From dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com Fri Jul 16 16:27:45 1999 From: dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <19990716212745.8644.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Rob, September might not be a bad time. That would allow us to gauge what the response is going to be and do some planning for an "event" in September when we get together in August. Dan --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > Actually I just got a response from Mark on that, and it > looks like not until sometime in September. > > Rob > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Jacobson [SMTP:dan_a_jacobson@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 12:39 PM > > To: Manning, Rob; 'Baltimore PM List' > > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > Rob, > > > > Sounds great. Does he have any idea when he'll next be in > Baltimore? > > If not then sounds like another opportunity for corporate > sponsorship > > :-). > > > > Dan > > > > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > > All, > > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will > > "sponsor" > > > him. > > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I > just > > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > > does everyone think? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob Manning > manningr@tcsnet.net > > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dharris at drh.net Fri Jul 16 16:30:00 1999 From: dharris at drh.net (David Harris) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0A8@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Message-ID: <000701becfd2$5bc261a0$0500a8c0@delf> Rob, You mentioned a website for the group. I just checked the pm.org listing of established group and it didn't have a link. Would you mind sharing the URL. Or perhaps you are talking about a future website... Also, thought I should offer free web hosting as I have access to that. We could set up under the "pm.org" domain, so we would be "baltimore.pm.org". Sorry I couldn't make it to the first visit. I've got family visiting this week, and, besides that, I've been swamped with work. Hopefully I'll make the next meeting. - David -----Original Message----- From: owner-baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org [mailto:owner-baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org] On Behalf Of Manning, Rob Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 4:58 PM To: 'James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)' Cc: 'Baltimore PM List' Subject: RE: Special Guest Speaker Jim, You raise alot a good points. I was going to suggest that we look for a bigger venue for "special" guest speaker meetings. In the back of my mind I just assumed that we could use a campus room. But perhaps the network connection may not be necessary - a laptop could be used when hooked up to a 19/21-inch monitor for a group of 20 people or so. I will definitely make sure to specify on the website to RSVP should we go ahead with this. August 3rd is what I had in mind to ask Mark about - assuming the group is in favor of it. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 From sandoz at umbc.edu Fri Jul 16 16:35:25 1999 From: sandoz at umbc.edu (James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: <19990716212745.8644.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Dan Jacobson wrote: > September might not be a bad time. That would allow us to gauge what > the response is going to be and do some planning for an "event" in > September when we get together in August. > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > Actually I just got a response from Mark on that, and it > > looks like not until sometime in September. Well, that pretty much leaves August open for a 'regular' meeting. I suggest we get as much info as we can before then. Did MJD indicate whether he'd be available on the 7th of September, or does he prefer a different specific day, or does he prefer a different day of the week? Jim Sandoz Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, 1000 Hilltop Circle Catonsville, MD 21250 voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From kcline at c3i.saic.com Fri Jul 16 20:30:38 1999 From: kcline at c3i.saic.com (Ken Cline) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC) wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > September might not be a bad time. That would allow us > > to gauge what the response is going to be and do some > > planning for an "event" in September when we get > > together in August. > > > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > > Actually I just got a response from Mark on that, and it > > > looks like not until sometime in September. > > Well, that pretty much leaves August open for a 'regular' meeting. I > suggest we get as much info as we can before then. Did MJD indicate > whether he'd be available on the 7th of September, or does he prefer a > different specific day, or does he prefer a different day of the week? > Jim Sandoz Will September make it more difficult to get a campus room? On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, David Harris wrote: > Rob, > > You mentioned a website for the group. I just checked the > pm.org listing of established group and it didn't have a > link. Would you mind sharing the URL. Or perhaps you are > talking about a future website... http://baltimore.pm.org/ _________________________________________________________ Ken Cline kcline@c3i.saic.com SAIC VOICE (410) 571-0413 Annapolis, MD FAX (301) 261-8427 From rmanning at erols.com Fri Jul 16 20:29:47 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker References: <19990716212745.8644.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <378FDC8A.A4865F5F@erols.com> Dan I think you're right. Having given this some thought it is quite short notice. I'll follow up with Mark to see exactly when he plans to be down here in September. Perhaps September's meeting date can be fluid as well. I keep you all posted... Rob Dan Jacobson wrote: > Rob, > > September might not be a bad time. That would allow us to gauge what > the response is going to be and do some planning for an "event" in > September when we get together in August. > > Dan > > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > Actually I just got a response from Mark on that, and it > > looks like not until sometime in September. > > > > Rob > > > > > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan Jacobson [SMTP:dan_a_jacobson@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 12:39 PM > > > To: Manning, Rob; 'Baltimore PM List' > > > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > Sounds great. Does he have any idea when he'll next be in > > Baltimore? > > > If not then sounds like another opportunity for corporate > > sponsorship > > > :-). > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > > > All, > > > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will > > > "sponsor" > > > > him. > > > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I > > just > > > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > > > does everyone think? > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob Manning > > manningr@tcsnet.net > > > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From sandoz at umbc.edu Fri Jul 16 23:26:28 1999 From: sandoz at umbc.edu (James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Will September make it more difficult to get a campus room? I dunno. I spoke to someone whom I thought would know about the rooms, and he wasn't sure. I'd asked about a room with computers, which is a bit more difficult to arrange, since users have to have accounts. But Rob thinks they won't be necessary. (Neither do I, now that I think about it). I don't think September will be a problem. In the evenings, there are plenty of unused classrooms on campus. I've just got to find out how to arrange one and to line up a projector. I'm going on vacation Sunday and won't be back on campus or on line until the following week. Jim Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, 1000 Hilltop Circle Catonsville, MD 21250 voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From rmanning at erols.com Sat Jul 17 07:54:25 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker References: Message-ID: <37907D01.7F72D49A@erols.com> Good news! Mark says that he is available for the September 7th meeting. So I propose we use that as the target (I know that having a specific date is important for scheduling things like space, equipment, etc.) As far as equipment goes, in the worst case if someone will bring a laptop, I have a 19" monitor we could plug it into. If September 7th is a go, I'll announce it on the website with the meeting place TBD. I can then ask for RSVP by email and send the location/time later to those who we know are coming(RSVP'd). This should give us an accurate count of attendees. Does this make sense or does someone have a better idea? Rob "James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)" wrote: > > I just sent Mark a note to see what his availability for September > > 7th is. If it's a no go then I'll ask him which days he'd prefer. I'll > > get back to you when I have more info. > > Good. Keep me posted. But I'll be leaving Sunday morning for that > vacationer's paradise, OC. Coming back Thursday or Friday (probably Fri) > so I probably won't be able to line anything up until the following > Monday. I'm hoping it won't be a Wednesday or Thursday. > > Jim > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > 1000 Hilltop Circle > Catonsville, MD 21250 > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com Sat Jul 17 09:59:20 1999 From: dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <19990717145920.27223.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Rob, This is an opportunity to contact the group in D.C. and tell them that we have a good speaker coming (mention his column in TPJ), and that they are welcome to attend. This is a subtle way of cluing in any Baltimore folks in the D.C. group that we exist. It could also start a relationship with the D.C. group where we make each other aware if we are bringing in a "big name" speaker - a reicprocal seminar series perhaps. Dan --- Rob Manning wrote: > Good news! Mark says that he is available for the September 7th > meeting. So I propose we use that as the target (I know that having > a > specific date is important for scheduling things like space, > equipment, > etc.) As far as equipment goes, in the worst case if someone will > bring a laptop, I have a 19" monitor we could plug it into. If > September > 7th is a go, I'll announce it on the website with the meeting place > TBD. > I can then ask for RSVP by email and send the location/time later to > those > who we know are coming(RSVP'd). This should give us an accurate > count > of attendees. Does this make sense or does someone have a better > idea? > > Rob > > "James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)" wrote: > > > > I just sent Mark a note to see what his availability for > September > > > 7th is. If it's a no go then I'll ask him which days he'd > prefer. I'll > > > get back to you when I have more info. > > > > Good. Keep me posted. But I'll be leaving Sunday morning for that > > vacationer's paradise, OC. Coming back Thursday or Friday > (probably Fri) > > so I probably won't be able to line anything up until the following > > Monday. I'm hoping it won't be a Wednesday or Thursday. > > > > Jim > > > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > > 1000 Hilltop Circle > > Catonsville, MD 21250 > > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From rmanning at erols.com Sun Jul 18 11:40:48 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker References: Message-ID: <37920390.D31C76F9@erols.com> Right! I 'll get started... Rob "James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)" wrote: > Good news indeed! > I hope the worst case won't be necessary. I'll try to line up a > pc/projector setup. There are a couple on campus. I won't be able to > check until Friday at the earliest. > September 7 _should_ be ok with all of us at meeting#1. Why don't > you firm things up with MJD and go ahead and post it. We (meaning you, > unless you want to delegate some of this stuff) should email the nearby > pm's (annapolis, dc, jpl (is the jet propulsion lab close?)) and nearby > linux users groups. > I'll get to work on a room as soon as I get back. > > Jim > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > 1000 Hilltop Circle > Catonsville, MD 21250 > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From rmanning at erols.com Sun Jul 18 11:43:55 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker References: <19990717145920.27223.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <3792044B.37537035@erols.com> Great idea!! I'll see to it... Rob Dan Jacobson wrote: > Rob, > > This is an opportunity to contact the group in D.C. and tell them that > we have a good speaker coming (mention his column in TPJ), and that > they > are welcome to attend. This is a subtle way of cluing in any Baltimore > folks in the D.C. group that we exist. It could also start a > relationship with the D.C. group where we make each other aware if we > are bringing in a "big name" speaker - a reicprocal seminar series > perhaps. > > Dan > > --- Rob Manning wrote: > > Good news! Mark says that he is available for the September 7th > > meeting. So I propose we use that as the target (I know that having > > a > > specific date is important for scheduling things like space, > > equipment, > > etc.) As far as equipment goes, in the worst case if someone will > > bring a laptop, I have a 19" monitor we could plug it into. If > > September > > 7th is a go, I'll announce it on the website with the meeting place > > TBD. > > I can then ask for RSVP by email and send the location/time later to > > those > > who we know are coming(RSVP'd). This should give us an accurate > > count > > of attendees. Does this make sense or does someone have a better > > idea? > > > > Rob > > > > "James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)" wrote: > > > > > > I just sent Mark a note to see what his availability for > > September > > > > 7th is. If it's a no go then I'll ask him which days he'd > > prefer. I'll > > > > get back to you when I have more info. > > > > > > Good. Keep me posted. But I'll be leaving Sunday morning for that > > > vacationer's paradise, OC. Coming back Thursday or Friday > > (probably Fri) > > > so I probably won't be able to line anything up until the following > > > Monday. I'm hoping it won't be a Wednesday or Thursday. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > > > 1000 Hilltop Circle > > > Catonsville, MD 21250 > > > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Mon Jul 19 07:20:56 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0AA@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Mark needs reimbursement for the train ticket down on Sept. 7 since it's a special trip for him. He's estimated that it would cost about $80. So what I think we could do is take up a collection from the members that attend august's meeting, then perhaps the Sept 7th meeting will have a small cover charge for those that didn't attend august's meeting (I'm thinking maybe $2 - $4 if we get enough RSVP's). So I could announce the $4 cover charge on the web and if it exceeds Mark's ticket cost we could either reduce it, or setup a guest speaker fund to provide for future "special meetings". What do you guys think? Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Cline [SMTP:kcline@c3i.saic.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 3:55 PM > To: Baltimore PM List > Subject: RE: Special Guest Speaker > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Manning, Rob wrote: > > > James, > > Not sure, but I'd say that would have to be the > > impromptu guest speaker fund. :-) > > > > I suppose in this case one person (perhaps myself) should purchase > > the ticket and at the meeting contributions could be > > collected to reimburse that individual's expense? > > > > How many would favor this type of arrangement for the > > next meeting? > > That's fine with me. Do you accept e-cash? > > Is it just travel expenses? > > Ken. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Genus Jr [SMTP:James.Genus.Jr@nsc.com] > > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:38 PM > > > To: Rob_Manning > > > Cc: baltimore-pm-list > > > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to > use > > > for > > > contributions for a case like this? > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM > > > To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet > > > cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) > > > Subject: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > All, > > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will > "sponsor" > > > him. > > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I > just > > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > > does everyone think? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob Manning > manningr@tcsnet.net > > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Ken Cline kcline@c3i.saic.com > SAIC VOICE (410) 571-0413 > Annapolis, MD FAX (301) 261-8427 From dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com Mon Jul 19 11:28:31 1999 From: dan_a_jacobson at yahoo.com (Dan Jacobson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <19990719162831.22752.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Fine with me. Dan --- "Manning, Rob" wrote: > > Mark needs reimbursement for the train ticket down > on Sept. 7 since it's a special trip for him. He's estimated that it > would > cost about $80. So what I think we could do is take up a collection > from the members that attend august's meeting, then perhaps > the Sept 7th meeting will have a small cover charge for those > that didn't attend august's meeting (I'm thinking maybe $2 - $4 > if we get enough RSVP's). So I could announce the $4 cover > charge on the web and if it exceeds Mark's ticket cost we could > either reduce it, or setup a guest speaker fund to provide for > future "special meetings". > > What do you guys think? > > Rob > > Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Cline [SMTP:kcline@c3i.saic.com] > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 3:55 PM > > To: Baltimore PM List > > Subject: RE: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Manning, Rob wrote: > > > > > James, > > > Not sure, but I'd say that would have to be the > > > impromptu guest speaker fund. :-) > > > > > > I suppose in this case one person (perhaps myself) should > purchase > > > the ticket and at the meeting contributions could be > > > collected to reimburse that individual's expense? > > > > > > How many would favor this type of arrangement for the > > > next meeting? > > > > That's fine with me. Do you accept e-cash? > > > > Is it just travel expenses? > > > > Ken. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: James Genus Jr [SMTP:James.Genus.Jr@nsc.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:38 PM > > > > To: Rob_Manning > > > > Cc: baltimore-pm-list > > > > Subject: Re: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > > > great idea! we lucked out that he's nearby. any sort of fund to > > use > > > > for > > > > contributions for a case like this? > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob_Manning@mail.ci.baltimore.md.us on 07/16/99 12:19:00 PM > > > > To: baltimore-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org@Internet > > > > cc: (bcc: James Genus Jr/Americas/NSC) > > > > Subject: Special Guest Speaker > > > > > > > > All, > > > > Hey, I got a reponse from Mark-Jason Dominus who > > > > would be available to talk with our group. Mark writes the > > > > regular column "Bricolage" for The Perl Journal > > > > and regularly speaks/teaches at conferences, seminars > > > > and Perl Monger groups. He was a featured speaker at Perl > > > > Conference 2.0 in 1998 where he presented a 6-hour tutorial > > > > on Web security issues and a 45-minute talk called > > > > The Perl Hardware Store. He's based in the Philadelphia, Pa. > > > > area. He said he'd be glad to speak at > > > > our meeting when he's in town, or since he's so close he > > > > has graciously offered his time sooner than that if we will > > "sponsor" > > > > him. > > > > That of course means a place for him to stay - got that > > > > covered - and a train ticket down here from Pa.(~$80 or > > > > perhaps someone who commutes to Baltimore from Pa. each > > > > day(Yuk!) and could give him a lift down and back?). Anyway I > > just > > > > wanted to throw this out as a suggestion to the group. What > > > > does everyone think? > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rob Manning > > manningr@tcsnet.net > > > > Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-3922 > > > > TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Ken Cline kcline@c3i.saic.com > > SAIC VOICE (410) 571-0413 > > Annapolis, MD FAX (301) 261-8427 > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From bbailey at clark.net Tue Jul 20 12:23:37 1999 From: bbailey at clark.net (Bruce Bailey) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Special Guest Speaker Message-ID: <01BED2BE.0384B300.bbailey@clark.net> FYI, If we need it for Mark (or any other meeting) I can get us a nice conference room (comfortably holds 30 or so) or an okay auditorium (looks like a highschool, but it holds hundreds). Both have access to telephone, computer, and laptop with large format display. I have after-hours access to a (not so attractive) computer lab, but it does not (yet!) have Internet access. Refreshments are also available at a nominal cost. Personally, I would prefer to meet on a college campus. Bruce Bailey http://www.dors.state.md.us/ On Saturday, July 17, 1999 12:26 AM, James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC) [SMTP:sandoz@umbc.edu] wrote: > > Will September make it more difficult to get a campus room? > > I dunno. I spoke to someone whom I thought would know about the rooms, > and he wasn't sure. I'd asked about a room with computers, which is a bit > more difficult to arrange, since users have to have accounts. But Rob > thinks they won't be necessary. (Neither do I, now that I think about > it). > I don't think September will be a problem. In the evenings, there > are plenty of unused classrooms on campus. I've just got to find out how > to arrange one and to line up a projector. > I'm going on vacation Sunday and won't be back on campus or on line until > the following week. > Jim > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > 1000 Hilltop Circle > Catonsville, MD 21250 > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From rmanning at erols.com Sat Jul 24 14:44:58 1999 From: rmanning at erols.com (Rob Manning) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Sept. 7 Meeting Message-ID: <379A17BA.881125E@erols.com> All, Just a note to let everyone know that the Baltimore Perl Mongers will be hosting Mark-Jason Dominus for his talk on "The Hardware Store" on September 7th. The meeting will probably be held on the campus of UMBC in Catonsville, MD. The room will be announced as we get closer to the event. Mark teaches/lectures at conferences, seminars and Perl Mongers user groups like ours. He'll be returning from speaking at Perl Conference 3.0 at the end of August so this will also be a good time to hear how it went first hand for those of us who couldn't make it. If you plan to attend please RSVP by sending mail to Baltimore@Baltimore.pm.org. See you there. Rob Manning From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Fri Jul 30 07:07:18 1999 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:30 2004 Subject: Aug 3. Meeting Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C75131EB0DA@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> All, Just a reminder that the August 3rd meeting (next Tuesday) at 7:00p.m., will be held at "The Daily Grind" cafe at 501 West Cold Spring Lane. (See http://baltimore.pm.org/directions.html for directions.) The meeting's itinerary will be thus (as always suggestions are welcome!): - Introduce new members. - Discuss details for hosting Mark-Jason Dominus at the September 7 meeting. - Pass out O'Reilly and Associates discount book flyers. - Open Forum. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Senior Systems Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546