From wbraswell at hush.com Fri Jan 10 11:35:37 2014 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:35:37 -0600 Subject: APM: Monthly Social Meeting, This Coming Tuesday Jan 14, 6:30-8:30pm Message-ID: <20140110193537.B14D5200EE@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, Happy New Year! We've been hard at work on developing RPerl, and also I'm proud to announce HostGator as our new Austin.pm sponsor! Starting in 2014 we will now hold 2 meetings per month, the 2nd Tuesday of each month will be our casual social gathering at a restaurant/cafe/pub, and the 4th Tuesday of each month will be our more formal technology presentation at the HostGator offices. Please see the updated Austin.pm website for more info: http://austin.pm/ Please RSVP to me directly when you know if you can make it or not. Thanks! Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez Next Meeting: Tuesday, January 14, 2014; 6:30pm - 8:30pm Topic:Perl vs Beer, Which Is Better? We will talk about Beer, Moose, Ale, Catalyst, Lager, RPerl, and anything else of interest! Read About Moose On Wikipedia Read About Catalyst On Wikipedia Location:B.B. Rovers Cafe & Pub 12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 (512) 335-9504 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Thu Jan 23 02:17:38 2014 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:17:38 -0600 Subject: APM: Free Pizza @ Hostgator Offices, This Coming Tuesday 1/28 6:30-8:30pm In-Reply-To: References: <20140110193537.B14D5200EE@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140114212920.32A38200EA@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <20140123101738.D59A8C0357@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, We're going to hold our next meeting, PLUS FREE PIZZA, at the offices of our generous new sponsor, HostGator! Tuesday, January 28, 2014;6:30pm - 8:30pm Topic:Embedded Devices & Deploying Catalyst On The CloudWe will discuss the processes involved in configuring and running Catalyst servers on cloud platforms & The Internet Of Things. Location:HostGator Offices2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX Hope to see you there! Perling,~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prez512.563.7984 cellhttp://austin.pm/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Jan 28 09:59:57 2014 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:59:57 -0600 Subject: APM: Free Pizza & Embedded Systems TONIGHT 6:30pm In-Reply-To: <201BED18-CCAB-4AD2-A566-0E8B61606F38@me.com> References: <1380904014.68910.YahooMailNeo@web125603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <201BED18-CCAB-4AD2-A566-0E8B61606F38@me.com> Message-ID: <20140128175958.17A62C0357@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, Tonight is our first meeting at the offices of our new sponsor HostGator, including free pizza for everyone! Please see the attached parking map, then look for the signs once you enter the offices. TONIGHT! January 28, 2014;6:30pm - 8:30pm Topic:Embedded Devices & Deploying Catalyst On The CloudWe will discuss the processes involved in configuring and running Catalyst servers on cloud platforms & The Internet Of Things. Location:HostGator Offices2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX Hope to see you there! 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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Will Braswell wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > > Tonight is our first meeting at the offices of our new sponsor HostGator, > including free pizza for everyone! > > Please see the attached parking map, then look for the signs once you > enter the offices. > > TONIGHT! January 28, 2014; > 6:30pm - 8:30pm > > Topic: > Embedded Devices & Deploying Catalyst On The Cloud > We will discuss the processes involved in configuring and running Catalyst > servers on cloud platforms & The Internet Of Things. > > Location: > HostGator Offices > 2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX > > Hope to see you there! > > Perling, > ~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prez > 512.563.7984 cell > http://austin.pm/ > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjn1056 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 28 11:49:08 2014 From: jjn1056 at yahoo.com (John Napiorkowski) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:49:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: APM: Free Pizza & Embedded Systems TONIGHT 6:30pm In-Reply-To: References: <1380904014.68910.YahooMailNeo@web125603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <201BED18-CCAB-4AD2-A566-0E8B61606F38@me.com> <20140128175958.17A62C0357@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <1390938548.78752.YahooMailNeo@web140802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Well, sorry guys but I won't be able to make it. ?Here in Elgin I'm seeing lots of frozen roads and my wife slipped walking to the mailbox so I'd have to stay here anyway. ?But I don't want to spoil it for others. ?If we reschedule for Friday or some such I'd be happy but I'm also happy to see you all next month. ? John On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:31 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: I'll be there, but I'm on main roads the entire way. With it hitting freezing right at the end of the meeting and the roads still wet, would it be wise to cancel? Anyone interested in attending should be able to do so safely. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, > > >Tonight is our first meeting at the offices of our new sponsor HostGator, including free pizza for everyone! > > >Please see the attached parking map, then look for the signs once you enter the offices. > > >TONIGHT! January 28, 2014; >6:30pm - 8:30pm > > >Topic: >Embedded Devices & Deploying Catalyst On The Cloud >We will discuss the processes involved in configuring and running Catalyst servers on cloud platforms & The Internet Of Things. > > >Location: >HostGator Offices >2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX > > >Hope to see you there! > > >Perling, >~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prez >512.563.7984 cell >http://austin.pm/ >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If we reschedule for Friday or some such I'd be happy but I'm also happy to see you all next month. John On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:31 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: I'll be there, but I'm on main roads the entire way. With it hitting freezing right at the end of the meeting and the roads still wet, would it be wise to cancel? Anyone interested in attending should be able to do so safely. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, Tonight is our first meeting at the offices of our new sponsor HostGator, including free pizza for everyone! Please see the attached parking map, then look for the signs once you enter the offices. TONIGHT! January 28, 2014; 6:30pm - 8:30pm Topic:Embedded Devices & Deploying Catalyst On The Cloud We will discuss the processes involved in configuring and running Catalyst servers on cloud platforms & The Internet Of Things. Location: HostGator Offices2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX Hope to see you there! Perling,~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prez512.563.7984 cell http://austin.pm/ _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Tue Jan 28 19:43:49 2014 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:43:49 -0600 Subject: APM: soap Message-ID: Hey, Pretty good meeting tonight. Thanks again to HostGator for a real place to have a meeting ( and the pizza, and the drinks ). I'm sorry for being so inept at expressing myself in technical terms sometimes. The web services architecture I was trying to ask about is the Web Service Description Language and Simple Object Access Protocol. 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Thanks again to HostGator for a real place to > have a meeting ( and the pizza, and the drinks ). > > I'm sorry for being so inept at expressing myself in technical terms > sometimes. The web services architecture I was trying to ask about is the > Web Service Description Language and Simple Object Access Protocol. I > wonder how SOAP services might be used in a Catalyst application or for the > transfer/access of massive amounts of data that Frank Braswell described > tonight. The relevant Perl module is SOAP::Lite. > > Maybe I could bear down on the subject and be able to present in a few > months. > Jack > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Wed Jan 29 09:05:11 2014 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:05:11 -0600 Subject: APM: soap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did a search on free soap web services and most of them appear to provide very simple pieces of data. The data that Frank put on the screen did not seem very complicated. I imagine a tank sensor sending that info once an hour or something might work. It wouldn't become big data until lots of tanks' info was collected in one place. It also can work outside of http; as in smtp and sms which seem like it might be useful. I also found there are a few big data sources available online for testing against. I could not find the one Frank Braswell referred to that starts with a Z. Anyone recall the name of that one? I have a friend who is very involved with using complex mathematical algorithms and vibration analysis for finding oil. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Frank Sheiness wrote: > i use SOAP a little in my catalyst application but I don't really think > it's a great choice for transfer of massive amounts of information. it's > closer in purpose to REST. and if you have a choice, I would recommend > using REST over SOAP. it's much easier to use. > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: > >> Hey, >> Pretty good meeting tonight. Thanks again to HostGator for a real place >> to have a meeting ( and the pizza, and the drinks ). >> >> I'm sorry for being so inept at expressing myself in technical terms >> sometimes. The web services architecture I was trying to ask about is the >> Web Service Description Language and Simple Object Access Protocol. I >> wonder how SOAP services might be used in a Catalyst application or for the >> transfer/access of massive amounts of data that Frank Braswell described >> tonight. The relevant Perl module is SOAP::Lite. >> >> Maybe I could bear down on the subject and be able to present in a few >> months. >> Jack >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Austin mailing list >> Austin at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Wed Jan 29 23:14:12 2014 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 01:14:12 -0600 Subject: APM: Meeting Debrief, New Facebook Page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140130071413.30AA3C0357@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, An echoing repeat of thanks to Hostgator for the pizza, venue, and sponsorship of our business meetings. Frank Braswell of the Informa company presented about embedded devices, the Internet of Things, and possible ways to integrate Perl into the mix. Jack, the cloud storage software you are thinking about is called Xively (sounds like it starts with a Z). Our next relaxed social meeting will be over beer on Tuesday Feb 11th, 6:30pm at BBRovers. Our next business meeting will be at HostGator's offices again on Tuesday Feb 25th, and Allan Cochrane will present about Mojolicious. ARE YOU ON FACEBOOK??? Join our new Austin.pm group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/612326778838891/ Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez On 1/29/2014 at 11:06 AM, "Jack Lupton" wrote:I did a search on free soap web services and most of them appear to provide very simple pieces of data. The data that Frank put on the screen did not seem very complicated. I imagine a tank sensor sending that info once an hour or something might work. It wouldn't become big data until lots of tanks' info was collected in one place. It also can work outside of http; as in smtp and sms which seem like it might be useful. I also found there are a few big data sources available online for testing against. I could not find the one Frank Braswell referred to that starts with a Z. Anyone recall the name of that one? I have a friend who is very involved with using complex mathematical algorithms and vibration analysis for finding oil. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Frank Sheiness wrote: i use SOAP a little in my catalyst application but I don't really think it's a great choice for transfer of massive amounts of information. it's closer in purpose to REST. and if you have a choice, I would recommend using REST over SOAP. it's much easier to use. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: Hey, Pretty good meeting tonight. Thanks again to HostGator for a real place to have a meeting ( and the pizza, and the drinks ). I'm sorry for being so inept at expressing myself in technical terms sometimes. The web services architecture I was trying to ask about is the Web Service Description Language and Simple Object Access Protocol. I wonder how SOAP services might be used in a Catalyst application or for the transfer/access of massive amounts of data that Frank Braswell described tonight. The relevant Perl module is SOAP::Lite. Maybe I could bear down on the subject and be able to present in a few months. Jack _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reini at cpanel.net Thu Jan 30 07:03:16 2014 From: reini at cpanel.net (Reini Urban) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 09:03:16 -0600 Subject: APM: soap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52EA69B4.7040305@cpanel.net> On 01/29/2014 11:05 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: > I did a search on free soap web services and most of them appear to > provide very simple pieces of data. The data that Frank put on the > screen did not seem very complicated. I imagine a tank sensor sending > that info once an hour or something might work. It wouldn't become big > data until lots of tanks' info was collected in one place. It also can > work outside of http; as in smtp and sms which seem like it might be > useful. Yes. In summary: SOAP is slow and introspective, so servers provide it when they change they their API or database structure often, or have a lot of API functions. Or have bad managers. XML-API is the non introspective variant, still overly verbose (uncompressed XML tags), but used more often. Non-introspective means you have to read the documentation for the API. With SOAP you could theoretically without. REST is the hard-core, efficient HTTP based interface, GET/HEAD/POST/DELETE only, with readable paths. With non-HTTP based connections over sockets much more efficient and better protocols do exist. Best known are zeromq for multiple servers/clients, msgpack for run-time structures, protobuf for compile-time structures, and many more. In perl JSON::XS is one of the simpliest and fastest. > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Frank Sheiness > wrote: > > i use SOAP a little in my catalyst application but I don't really > think it's a great choice for transfer of massive amounts of > information. it's closer in purpose to REST. and if you have a > choice, I would recommend using REST over SOAP. it's much easier to > use. > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Jack Lupton > wrote: > > Hey, > Pretty good meeting tonight. Thanks again to HostGator for a > real place to have a meeting ( and the pizza, and the drinks ). > > I'm sorry for being so inept at expressing myself in technical > terms sometimes. The web services architecture I was trying to > ask about is the Web Service Description Language and Simple > Object Access Protocol. I wonder how SOAP services might be used > in a Catalyst application or for the transfer/access of massive > amounts of data that Frank Braswell described tonight. The > relevant Perl module is SOAP::Lite. > > Maybe I could bear down on the subject and be able to present in > a few months. > Jack [Disclaimer: The views expressed in this letter are my own, and do not represent those of my employer.] -- Reini Working towards a true Modern Perl. Slim, functional, unbloated, compile-time optimizable