From meghan at 10gen.com  Wed Jan  2 16:06:00 2013
From: meghan at 10gen.com (Meghan Gill)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:06:00 -0500
Subject: APM: [event] MongoDB Austin on Feb 15
Message-ID: <CAPiCn7q9bWadDkacpw-jtwsjSyV9-RacNA5q-XQcWQMrnDmeiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all -

Happy New Year!

I thought that some of you would be interested in attending MongoDB Austin,
the annual conference dedicated to the open source, NoSQL database MongoDB.
This year?s event will be held on February 15 and will include a wide
variety of sessions to meet the needs of developers and administrators at
all levels of expertise.

Sign up before Jan 18 to take advantage of early bird pricing, which is
only $75: http://www.10gen.com/events/mongodb-austin

Have an interesting MongoDB experience to share? We?ll also be accepting
talk proposals from the community through Jan 4:
http://www.10gen.com/talk-proposal

Hope to see you there!

Cheers
Meghan
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From warman.t.gary at gmail.com  Wed Jan  2 16:16:17 2013
From: warman.t.gary at gmail.com (Gary Warman)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:16:17 -0600
Subject: APM: UNS: Beginning perl need some guidance
In-Reply-To: <20121120173350.GF2633@solid-constructs.com>
References: <A8FF309E-6BED-4B27-BB21-DCE6D00041EE@gmail.com>
	<20121120173350.GF2633@solid-constructs.com>
Message-ID: <CAKrj7Gg2eqSn8CLG25dXZFDTQPCeVFzV_V9Pk3BnWZTw_Bp=og@mail.gmail.com>

Just a solid piece of advice for #perl: don't go into that channel
with the thought that you may ever decided to be off-topic. It won't
bode well for you, lest apeiron strikes you down! But that aside, it
is a great resource.

On 11/20/12, Wayne Walker <wwalker at solid-constructs.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:46:44AM -0600, Robin Remaley wrote:
>> Hey y'all, I'm enrolled in ACC's online Perl Programming course and
>> have a few questions. It seems to me like this class went from 0-60 in
>> about four lessons, and though I grasp what I'm supposed to be doing,
>> I'm a little lost. Well, more than a little, but not a lot. Anyone out
>> there got a few minutes?
>
> I highly recommend the #perl channel on IRC on freenode.net, you will
> get much better response time.  But, they will expect you to have done
> your own looking first.  You can also ask on #austin or #austin-ruby.
>
> Wayne
>
> --
>
> Wayne Walker
> wwalker at solid-constructs.com
> (512) 633-8076
> Senior Consultant
> Solid Constructs, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Austin mailing list
> Austin at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin
>


-- 
Thank you,
Gary Warman

LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/garywarman>

From david at David-Slimp.com  Wed Jan  2 20:30:48 2013
From: david at David-Slimp.com (David Slimp)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:30:48 -0600
Subject: APM: perl - websockets - Mojolicious ?
In-Reply-To: <CAKrj7GjMvRBxgPvqEcOs2gFx=T0ZYXZpx=XdEMA5xrDa4cuH_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+YEP9WpmZX26GpAb_pXpHLpOgAp7J3T-ZM9x+64qAM+P7v2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKrj7GjMvRBxgPvqEcOs2gFx=T0ZYXZpx=XdEMA5xrDa4cuH_g@mail.gmail.com>
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Gary,

Thanks for the input.
It's my understanding that Mojolicious is specifically built for what
I'm trying to do with stateful / websockets stuff, as their page says this:
"Full stack HTTP and WebSocket client/server implementation"

At any rate, I'm not insisting I need to use Mojolicious, but what I
was asking in my original email, was that I've spent several days looking
around at the web for any types of "websockets-like" working examples
and found a few, but I have not been able to get ANY of them to work for me!

So, I'm asking here if anyone actually has a working example of something
being done in perl with websockets (Mojolicious or WebSocket.pm or
ANYTHING) ?!

Do you?  Or know someone who does?

thanks,
David


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Gary Warman <warman.t.gary at gmail.com> wrote:

> Aloha David!
>
> I can't see Mojolicious working too well with websockets, as
> websockets send a persistent connection to whoever is connecting, and
> mojolicious is designed for HTTP transmission, which as we all know,
> is a stateless, one-off packet. If you had to reload the page to
> reload a new resource, you may as well have defeated the purpose of
> having that single stream of communication open, innit? Though,
> systems like mojolicious are good for building the HTTP backend of the
> website if the whole website doesn't have to be websocketed. Seems
> like it might be a combination of Mojolicious and
>
> http://search.cpan.org/~vti/Protocol-WebSocket-0.12/lib/Protocol/WebSocket.pm
>
> On 12/2/12, David Slimp <david at david-slimp.com> wrote:
> > Hey folks!
> >
> > I've got a project that the new HTML 5 websockets would be perfect for!
> >
> > I've spent the last 2 days looking around the web and I think Mojolicious
> > is probably the Perl module I want.  There are a few pages with samples,
> > but none really seem to work (for me) !
> >
> > Is anyone on this list doing something with Perl and websockets?
> >
> > Does anyone have an example that actually works?
> >
> > thanks!
> > David
> >
>
>
> --
> Thank you,
> Gary Warman
>
> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/garywarman>
>
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From montgomery.conner at gmail.com  Wed Jan  2 22:23:57 2013
From: montgomery.conner at gmail.com (Montgomery Conner)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:23:57 -0800
Subject: APM: perl - websockets - Mojolicious ?
In-Reply-To: <CAD+YEP_pFtCv2Fs=6v98xM-AsTbmHDJgapJCa8+XeXKNw7_CtQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD+YEP9WpmZX26GpAb_pXpHLpOgAp7J3T-ZM9x+64qAM+P7v2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKrj7GjMvRBxgPvqEcOs2gFx=T0ZYXZpx=XdEMA5xrDa4cuH_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+YEP_pFtCv2Fs=6v98xM-AsTbmHDJgapJCa8+XeXKNw7_CtQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANSbQPCR5EDRek4TnRsdYOGZbEJ5MoBVQaN_kS+Bz+kvsM18WQ@mail.gmail.com>

This post (link below) gives the source code to several (claimed) working
examples of web-socket servers in Perl. It is intended to compare and
contrast building a websocket server at various levels of abstraction...
from the fairly low level (Protocol::WebSocket running in any one of a
number of Perl TCP event loops) to the high level (Mojolicious,
Plack::Middleware::WebSocket, and AnyEvent::HTTP::Server) to the
completely bare-bones (using nothing but IO::Socket::INET) .

http://showmetheco.de/articles/2010/11/timtow-to-build-a-websocket-server-in-perl.html

You may have already seen this article as it is the second link liste in a
Google search for 'perl and websockets', and I cannot vouch for any of the
code as I haven't tried it myself, but I'd be surprised if none of the 17
approaches mentioned in that article work... TIMTOWTDI strikes again.


Hope this Helps and Good Luck!
Montgomery



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, David Slimp <david at david-slimp.com> wrote:

> Gary,
>
> Thanks for the input.
> It's my understanding that Mojolicious is specifically built for what
> I'm trying to do with stateful / websockets stuff, as their page says this:
> "Full stack HTTP and WebSocket client/server implementation"
>
> At any rate, I'm not insisting I need to use Mojolicious, but what I
> was asking in my original email, was that I've spent several days looking
> around at the web for any types of "websockets-like" working examples
> and found a few, but I have not been able to get ANY of them to work for
> me!
>
> So, I'm asking here if anyone actually has a working example of something
> being done in perl with websockets (Mojolicious or WebSocket.pm or
> ANYTHING) ?!
>
> Do you?  Or know someone who does?
>
> thanks,
> David
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Gary Warman <warman.t.gary at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Aloha David!
>>
>> I can't see Mojolicious working too well with websockets, as
>> websockets send a persistent connection to whoever is connecting, and
>> mojolicious is designed for HTTP transmission, which as we all know,
>> is a stateless, one-off packet. If you had to reload the page to
>> reload a new resource, you may as well have defeated the purpose of
>> having that single stream of communication open, innit? Though,
>> systems like mojolicious are good for building the HTTP backend of the
>> website if the whole website doesn't have to be websocketed. Seems
>> like it might be a combination of Mojolicious and
>>
>> http://search.cpan.org/~vti/Protocol-WebSocket-0.12/lib/Protocol/WebSocket.pm
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/12, David Slimp <david at david-slimp.com> wrote:
>> > Hey folks!
>> >
>> > I've got a project that the new HTML 5 websockets would be perfect for!
>> >
>> > I've spent the last 2 days looking around the web and I think
>> Mojolicious
>> > is probably the Perl module I want.  There are a few pages with samples,
>> > but none really seem to work (for me) !
>> >
>> > Is anyone on this list doing something with Perl and websockets?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have an example that actually works?
>> >
>> > thanks!
>> > David
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thank you,
>> Gary Warman
>>
>> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/garywarman>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Austin mailing list
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From wbraswell at hush.com  Tue Jan 22 22:19:07 2013
From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 00:19:07 -0600
Subject: APM: Monthly Meeting Tonight, Weds 1/23 8:30pm, YAPC Planning
In-Reply-To: <E3670F48-CCC4-4463-ABC2-AC5E82272438@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <20130123061907.AE327E6726@smtp.hushmail.com>

Howdy Austin Perl Mongers,
Tonight will be our monthly in-person meeting, to be held from 8:30pm
- 9:30pm at:
The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf13376 N. Highway 183, Austin, TXSouth-West
Corner of Anderson Mill Rd. & 183
The only agenda item I have is our ongoing YAPC::NA 2013 plans...  For
those of you who are unaware, YAPC will be held in Austin this year,
in the first week of June.
Anyone else who has interesting Perl things to share is welcome to
reply to this message or just show up!
Please plan to come join us for some caffeine and talk some Perl.
Thanks,~ Will Braswell, Austin.PM President512.563.7984 cell
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