APM: Meeting Report

jameschoate at austin.rr.com jameschoate at austin.rr.com
Fri Jul 27 09:37:14 PDT 2012


You've got the right sort of theme, wrong description or understanding of what a 'project' is.

---- Chris Millard <chris.d.millard at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Taylor Carpenter++
> 
> A shorter presentation format has several advantages, not the least of
> which is encouraging presenters to use their time wisely.  When all you
> have is 30 minutes, that time is precious.  It tends to help avoid
> presentations that bog down in minutiae or simplistic tutorials.
> 
> I suspect some presentations will need to take longer, though, and I think
> that's OK.  Deep dives are fun, and often more illuminating when dealing
> with the more esoteric aspects of our craft.  I firmly believe what we do
> is more art than science.
> 
> On the project side, I think a project would be a fantastic idea.  However,
> I would prefer that it be done on the side, with meetings before/after the
> PM meeting, or on another day.  A project can largely be done remote, with
> quick hacking sessions to do tutoring, brainstorming, and breaking through
> roadblocks.
> 
> In regards to what the project is, I'll echo discomfort around the idea of
> working on something that will be used commercially*.  That sounds ripe for
> a conflict of interests.  That said, I was NOT at the meeting this week,
> and i don't feel i can speak to the proposal on the table.  Consider these
> general thoughts.
> 
> Great discussion, guys, keep it up.
> 
> All the best,
> Chris
> 
> * An open source project which could be picked up for commercial use I have
> no issue with (see: perl).
> 
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann <fluhmann at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Taylor Carpenter <taylor at codecafe.com>wrote:
> >
> >> A project/coding-interactive focused meetup group is an interesting idea.
> >>
> >> I suggest having a spin-off meeting that allows people who are interested
> >> in the project to attend those meetings.   This could be a single on-going
> >> project, or a hack meetup to work on several projects of interest....
> >>
> >> For the actual PM meetup itself, IMO, it should keep a broad focus in
> >> general -- even if we have talks about a specific topic.   Otherwise the
> >> group will alienate everyone who is not interested in the current topic.
> >> Personally I prefer 2 or 3 talks at a meeting that are short, so that
> >> everyone has a chance of at least one topic being presented of interest.
> >> Giving some time for people to ask questions, bring up problems they are
> >> working on, and chat in general is also good.
> >>
> >> Zombies and Perl as well as well as problems solved with Perl for the
> >> Trello Bot project are examples of short talks I would be happy to see at
> >> future PM meetings.
> >>
> >> BTW, adding an additional hour at the end of the current PM meeting to
> >> allow people to hang out and hack would be fine as well.  Anyone
> >> uninterested in the project can leave after the meeting.
> >>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeremy
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Chris

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