APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought

David Bluestein II dbii at interaction.net
Mon Mar 6 09:39:26 PST 2006

Okay, so we almost had a topic, if only Mike were here :)

Anyone have something interesting they are working on they would like 
to present? Or other suggestions?

Ian is out of town next week Wednesday, so we cannot meet at ARL. We 
can meet somewhere else though (Wayne or Mark can probably host).


On Mar 4, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Wayne Walker wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:50:09PM -0500, Mike Stok wrote:
>> On 3-Mar-06, at 6:17 PM, tmcd at panix.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
>>>> A different way of creating objects.
>>> As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
>>> Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
>>> looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in 
>>> Perl,
>>> "inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
>>> modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to 
>>> avoid
>>> the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.
>>> Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?
>> I reviewed it, and we have been using it to guide us in a couple of
>> largish projects at work.  While it is pretty good, you should be
>> careful about which guidelines you pick.
>> Personally I find Class::Std too much of a nuisance to use, to me the
>> pudding is a little over-egged - but I have been seduced by the red
>> side, and so you can ignore me ;-)  I particularly don't like the
> Is it seduction when it's obviously a better mistress?
>> baroque-feeling markers and attributes, and even the lighter-weight
>> and better behaved Object::InsideOut uses attributes to mark
>> subroutines.
> Thanks for the insight.  I'll play with them and then go back to Ruby
> and continue to write old style .
>> Try it on something and see.  I like Damian, and amazed by what he
>> can make Perl do, but a couple of years of maintaining old and crufty
>> Perl code which sometimes uses tricks deliberately, other times
>> accidentally, has made me leery of anything but the most vanilla Perl.
>> Mike
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