From dbii at interaction.net  Fri Mar  3 12:20:38 2006
From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:20:38 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
Message-ID: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>

Any suggestions for topics for March meeting? Anyone know of something 
they would like to present on or want to hear about?

David

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From wwalker at bybent.com  Fri Mar  3 13:39:57 2006
From: wwalker at bybent.com (Wayne Walker)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:39:57 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
Message-ID: <20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>

A different way of creating objects.  I spent 2 hours today trying to
figure out why this didn't work:

sub _create_or_increment_record # ($key_value)
{   
    my $unused_classname = shift;
    my $key_value = @_;

	.....

I've heard that there are special perl library's that let you bless a
scalar and get magical attributes, but can't find anything about it.

Anyone know about it?  Enough to speak on it?

Wayne

On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:20:38PM -0600, David Bluestein II wrote:
> Any suggestions for topics for March meeting? Anyone know of something 
> they would like to present on or want to hear about?
> 
> David
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> President & Lead Developer         dbii at interaction.net
> ii, inc.                                                  
> http://www.interaction.net
>      -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites --
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Austin mailing list
> Austin at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin

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From tmcd at panix.com  Fri Mar  3 15:17:06 2006
From: tmcd at panix.com (tmcd@panix.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:17:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
> A different way of creating objects.

As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in Perl,
"inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to avoid
the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.

Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?

>I spent 2 hours today trying to
> figure out why this didn't work:
>
> sub _create_or_increment_record # ($key_value)
> {
>     my $unused_classname = shift;
>     my $key_value = @_;

That would be this problem, I presume?
     my $key_value = scalar(@_);
i.e.
     my $key_value = 1;

> I've heard that there are special perl library's that let you bless
> a scalar and get magical attributes, but can't find anything about
> it.

What "magical attributes" exactly?

-- 
"Me, I love the USA; I never miss an episode." -- Paul "Fruitbat" Sleigh
Tim McDaniel; Reply-To: tmcd at panix.com

From mike at stok.co.uk  Fri Mar  3 15:50:09 2006
From: mike at stok.co.uk (Mike Stok)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:50:09 -0500
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>
Message-ID: <15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>


On 3-Mar-06, at 6:17 PM, tmcd at panix.com wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
>> A different way of creating objects.
>
> As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
> Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
> looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in Perl,
> "inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
> modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to avoid
> the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.
>
> Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?
>

I reviewed it, and we have been using it to guide us in a couple of  
largish projects at work.  While it is pretty good, you should be  
careful about which guidelines you pick.

Personally I find Class::Std too much of a nuisance to use, to me the  
pudding is a little over-egged - but I have been seduced by the red  
side, and so you can ignore me ;-)  I particularly don't like the  
baroque-feeling markers and attributes, and even the lighter-weight  
and better behaved Object::InsideOut uses attributes to mark  
subroutines.

Try it on something and see.  I like Damian, and amazed by what he  
can make Perl do, but a couple of years of maintaining old and crufty  
Perl code which sometimes uses tricks deliberately, other times  
accidentally, has made me leery of anything but the most vanilla Perl.

Mike

-- 

Mike Stok <mike at stok.co.uk>
http://www.stok.ca/~mike/

The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply.





From wwalker at bybent.com  Sat Mar  4 12:11:45 2006
From: wwalker at bybent.com (Wayne Walker)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:11:45 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>
	<15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20060304201145.GC4473@bybent.com>

On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:50:09PM -0500, Mike Stok wrote:
> 
> On 3-Mar-06, at 6:17 PM, tmcd at panix.com wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
> >> A different way of creating objects.
> >
> > As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
> > Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
> > looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in Perl,
> > "inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
> > modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to avoid
> > the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.
> >
> > Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?
> >
> 
> I reviewed it, and we have been using it to guide us in a couple of  
> largish projects at work.  While it is pretty good, you should be  
> careful about which guidelines you pick.
> 
> Personally I find Class::Std too much of a nuisance to use, to me the  
> pudding is a little over-egged - but I have been seduced by the red  
> side, and so you can ignore me ;-)  I particularly don't like the  
Is it seduction when it's obviously a better mistress?

> baroque-feeling markers and attributes, and even the lighter-weight  
> and better behaved Object::InsideOut uses attributes to mark  
> subroutines.

Thanks for the insight.  I'll play with them and then go back to Ruby
and continue to write old style .

> Try it on something and see.  I like Damian, and amazed by what he  
> can make Perl do, but a couple of years of maintaining old and crufty  
> Perl code which sometimes uses tricks deliberately, other times  
> accidentally, has made me leery of anything but the most vanilla Perl.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> 
> Mike Stok <mike at stok.co.uk>
> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/
> 
> The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Austin mailing list
> Austin at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin

-- 

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From dbii at interaction.net  Mon Mar  6 09:39:26 2006
From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:39:26 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <20060304201145.GC4473@bybent.com>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>
	<15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>
	<20060304201145.GC4473@bybent.com>
Message-ID: <d9d955179186a3f9c6d80f4eedae42b2@interaction.net>

Okay, so we almost had a topic, if only Mike were here :)

Anyone have something interesting they are working on they would like 
to present? Or other suggestions?

Ian is out of town next week Wednesday, so we cannot meet at ARL. We 
can meet somewhere else though (Wayne or Mark can probably host).

David

On Mar 4, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Wayne Walker wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:50:09PM -0500, Mike Stok wrote:
>>
>> On 3-Mar-06, at 6:17 PM, tmcd at panix.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
>>>> A different way of creating objects.
>>>
>>> As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
>>> Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
>>> looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in 
>>> Perl,
>>> "inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
>>> modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to 
>>> avoid
>>> the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.
>>>
>>> Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?
>>>
>>
>> I reviewed it, and we have been using it to guide us in a couple of
>> largish projects at work.  While it is pretty good, you should be
>> careful about which guidelines you pick.
>>
>> Personally I find Class::Std too much of a nuisance to use, to me the
>> pudding is a little over-egged - but I have been seduced by the red
>> side, and so you can ignore me ;-)  I particularly don't like the
> Is it seduction when it's obviously a better mistress?
>
>> baroque-feeling markers and attributes, and even the lighter-weight
>> and better behaved Object::InsideOut uses attributes to mark
>> subroutines.
>
> Thanks for the insight.  I'll play with them and then go back to Ruby
> and continue to write old style .
>
>> Try it on something and see.  I like Damian, and amazed by what he
>> can make Perl do, but a couple of years of maintaining old and crufty
>> Perl code which sometimes uses tricks deliberately, other times
>> accidentally, has made me leery of anything but the most vanilla Perl.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Mike Stok <mike at stok.co.uk>
>> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/
>>
>> The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Austin mailing list
>> Austin at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin
>
> -- 
>
> Wayne Walker
>
> www.unwiredbuyer.com - when you just can't be by the computer
>
> wwalker at bybent.com                    Do you use Linux?!
> http://www.bybent.com                 Get Counted!  
> http://counter.li.org/
> Perl - http://www.perl.org/           Perl User Groups - 
> http://www.pm.org/
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>
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From wwalker at bybent.com  Wed Mar  8 14:34:16 2006
From: wwalker at bybent.com (Wayne Walker)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:34:16 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <d9d955179186a3f9c6d80f4eedae42b2@interaction.net>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>
	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>
	<15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>
	<20060304201145.GC4473@bybent.com>
	<d9d955179186a3f9c6d80f4eedae42b2@interaction.net>
Message-ID: <20060308223416.GG7868@bybent.com>

I'm most probably out of town all next week.  So is Chris Tooley.

Therefore, gNumber is very unlikely to be able to host APM this month.

Wayne

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 11:39:26AM -0600, David Bluestein II wrote:
> Okay, so we almost had a topic, if only Mike were here :)
> 
> Anyone have something interesting they are working on they would like 
> to present? Or other suggestions?
> 
> Ian is out of town next week Wednesday, so we cannot meet at ARL. We 
> can meet somewhere else though (Wayne or Mark can probably host).
> 
> David
> 
> On Mar 4, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Wayne Walker wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:50:09PM -0500, Mike Stok wrote:
> >>
> >> On 3-Mar-06, at 6:17 PM, tmcd at panix.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Wayne Walker <wwalker at bybent.com> wrote:
> >>>> A different way of creating objects.
> >>>
> >>> As a tangent, I saw a book at Borders: I believe it was _Perl Best
> >>> Practices_, which would be Damian Conway's recent book.  It had what
> >>> looks like a quite interesting technique for building classes in 
> >>> Perl,
> >>> "inside-out objects".  It also talked about the value of certain CPAN
> >>> modules to improve code structuring ("use base", for example, to 
> >>> avoid
> >>> the @ISA stuff).  But I had only a few minutes to look at the book.
> >>>
> >>> Has any here read the book and think it worth getting?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I reviewed it, and we have been using it to guide us in a couple of
> >> largish projects at work.  While it is pretty good, you should be
> >> careful about which guidelines you pick.
> >>
> >> Personally I find Class::Std too much of a nuisance to use, to me the
> >> pudding is a little over-egged - but I have been seduced by the red
> >> side, and so you can ignore me ;-)  I particularly don't like the
> > Is it seduction when it's obviously a better mistress?
> >
> >> baroque-feeling markers and attributes, and even the lighter-weight
> >> and better behaved Object::InsideOut uses attributes to mark
> >> subroutines.
> >
> > Thanks for the insight.  I'll play with them and then go back to Ruby
> > and continue to write old style .
> >
> >> Try it on something and see.  I like Damian, and amazed by what he
> >> can make Perl do, but a couple of years of maintaining old and crufty
> >> Perl code which sometimes uses tricks deliberately, other times
> >> accidentally, has made me leery of anything but the most vanilla Perl.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Mike Stok <mike at stok.co.uk>
> >> http://www.stok.ca/~mike/
> >>
> >> The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Austin mailing list
> >> Austin at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Wayne Walker
> >
> > www.unwiredbuyer.com - when you just can't be by the computer
> >
> > wwalker at bybent.com                    Do you use Linux?!
> > http://www.bybent.com                 Get Counted!  
> > http://counter.li.org/
> > Perl - http://www.perl.org/           Perl User Groups - 
> > http://www.pm.org/
> > Jabber:  wwalker at jabber.gnumber.com   AIM:     lwwalkerbybent
> > IRC:     wwalker on freenode.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > Austin mailing list
> > Austin at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> David H. Bluestein II
> President & Lead Developer         dbii at interaction.net
> ii, inc.                                                  
> http://www.interaction.net
>      -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites --
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Austin mailing list
> Austin at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin

-- 

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From dbii at interaction.net  Wed Mar  8 19:10:14 2006
From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:10:14 -0600
Subject: APM: March Meeting Cancelled
Message-ID: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>

Due to the fact that Ian is out of town, and Wayne has to go out of 
town, we do not have a location for a March meeting. We didn't have a 
topic either :(

So, unless someone has a location and topic, we're going to skip March, 
and the next APM meeting will be April 19th.

Topic suggestions are welcome. I might could do something on creating 
PDF documents via Perl/LaTeX if anyone is interested.

David

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ii, inc.                                                  
http://www.interaction.net
     -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites --


From parkerm at pobox.com  Wed Mar  8 19:16:03 2006
From: parkerm at pobox.com (Michael Parker)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:16:03 -0600
Subject: APM: March Meeting Cancelled
In-Reply-To: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
References: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
Message-ID: <440F9DF3.4060707@pobox.com>

David Bluestein II wrote:
> 
> Topic suggestions are welcome. I might could do something on creating 
> PDF documents via Perl/LaTeX if anyone is interested.
> 

Sorry, I don't have a location, but a possible topic for a future meeting.

It might be for too small of an audience, but if folks are interesting
in learning how to write their own SpamAssassin plugins, I've got a
presentation all worked up from last years ApacheCon.  It can run
between 30 and 60 minutes depending on how many examples we go over.

Like I said, might not be enough interest, but I've got the slides if
folks are interested.  I list the talk as for intermediate perl folks.

Michael

From dbii at interaction.net  Wed Mar  8 19:22:34 2006
From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:22:34 -0600
Subject: APM: March Meeting Cancelled
In-Reply-To: <440F9DF3.4060707@pobox.com>
References: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
	<440F9DF3.4060707@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <2038e3f15f1f53dcf50a0ffe27f9c730@interaction.net>

Hey Michael-

I think that would be a good topic. Last year's presentation went well. 
Does April work for you? Maybe you could bring us up to date on the 
progress with SA too. We could invite the Linux groups too.

David

On Mar 8, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Michael Parker wrote:

> David Bluestein II wrote:
>>
>> Topic suggestions are welcome. I might could do something on creating
>> PDF documents via Perl/LaTeX if anyone is interested.
>>
>
> Sorry, I don't have a location, but a possible topic for a future 
> meeting.
>
> It might be for too small of an audience, but if folks are interesting
> in learning how to write their own SpamAssassin plugins, I've got a
> presentation all worked up from last years ApacheCon.  It can run
> between 30 and 60 minutes depending on how many examples we go over.
>
> Like I said, might not be enough interest, but I've got the slides if
> folks are interested.  I list the talk as for intermediate perl folks.
>
> Michael
>
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President & Lead Developer         dbii at interaction.net
ii, inc.                                                  
http://www.interaction.net
     -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites --


From austin.pm at sam-i-am.com  Thu Mar  9 06:10:16 2006
From: austin.pm at sam-i-am.com (Sam Foster)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:10:16 -0600
Subject: APM: March Topic Suggestions Sought
In-Reply-To: <d9d955179186a3f9c6d80f4eedae42b2@interaction.net>
References: <90600565df73104fb9ac7c3d142bce67@interaction.net>	<20060303213957.GD4239@bybent.com>	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0603031704530.2368@tmcd.austin.tx.us>	<15C84393-E33D-4EC2-BE11-CF6BF2DA4C91@stok.co.uk>	<20060304201145.GC4473@bybent.com>
	<d9d955179186a3f9c6d80f4eedae42b2@interaction.net>
Message-ID: <44103748.90507@sam-i-am.com>

I'm working on a CSSDoc tool in my spare time (ha!) ... to parse out 
inline documentation (comments) and generate Javadoc-like documentation 
reports. I'm using CSS::SAC
There's also JSDoc out there (perl) to do the same for Javascript. I 
cant put a date on when it will be ready, but might that be something 
folks would be interested in seeing?

Sam

David Bluestein II wrote:

>Okay, so we almost had a topic, if only Mike were here :)
>
>Anyone have something interesting they are working on they would like 
>to present? Or other suggestions?
>
>  
>


From CaptNemo at Austin.rr.com  Mon Mar 13 17:15:17 2006
From: CaptNemo at Austin.rr.com (CaptNemo)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:15:17 -0600
Subject: APM: using PERL to execute/control other programs??? Writing
 Modules???
In-Reply-To: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
References: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060313191218.032b6f60@pop-server.austin.rr.com>

Can someone point me to a good (simplistic) website to give me an idea on 
how to write modular programs in PERL?


What I really need to know is how to get PERL to execute other programs and 
interact with them...


I already know about the back-tick but that's only good for the run-once 
type program.


From wwalker at bybent.com  Mon Mar 13 18:52:33 2006
From: wwalker at bybent.com (Wayne Walker)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:52:33 -0600
Subject: APM: using PERL to execute/control other programs??? Writing
	Modules???
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060313191218.032b6f60@pop-server.austin.rr.com>
References: <7d3712725e3a2726779d09b986013f84@interaction.net>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20060313191218.032b6f60@pop-server.austin.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20060314025233.GA9608@bybent.com>

Some modules to look at:

IPC::Run
Open3
Perl Cookbook

More specifics on what you are trying to do would help.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 07:15:17PM -0600, CaptNemo wrote:
> Can someone point me to a good (simplistic) website to give me an idea on 
> how to write modular programs in PERL?
> 
> 
> What I really need to know is how to get PERL to execute other programs and 
> interact with them...
> 
> 
> I already know about the back-tick but that's only good for the run-once 
> type program.
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