From bauer78720 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 07:09:49 2005 From: bauer78720 at yahoo.com (Steven Bauer) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:09:49 -0500 Subject: APM: Job Posting -- Senior Software Engineer Message-ID: I am currently on a contract and am not able to take advantage of this opportunity. If you are interested, please contact: Lindsey Ohls TEKsystems Recruiter- Austin Office Direct- 512-249-4926 Toll Free- 888-598-5877 lohls at teksystems.com Senior Software Engineer: ? Senior developer with 5 or more years experience. ? Works independently; focused on product completion and delivery. ? Capable of converting customer requirements into software design into production code. ? Excellent communication skills; can work well on a team as a collaborator. ? Object-oriented programming are required; proficiency with procedural or structured are desirable. ? Strong analytical skills are required. ? Experience with 2 or more programming languages, including Perl, Python, Java, C or C++; prefer experience with high-level and low-level languages. ? Working knowledge of Unix development environments is required, especially Solaris and Linux; including basic Unix shells, make, version control, compilers, interpreters. ? Familiarity with some of the following is highly desirable: databases, embedded, relational, object-oriented; distributed computing, network programming, IPC; grid computing, cluster computing. ? Knowledge of computer science fundamentals desirable. ? Preferred knowledge: Perl, shell, Java, Javascript; ClearCase, CVS; CORBA, TCP/IP; Web, HTML, HTTP; LSF, Condor. Duration: 6 month to perm Interview: Phone interviews (w/ Site Manager, Technical Manager, Customer Manager, Director); Personal Interview with Managers. Project: Working on a GridMatrix application to be used by internal and external customers. This developer will be doing both new development and maintenance, bug fixes, enhancements. Priority of programming languages are: Perl, C, C++/Java. They must be able to code in several languages ALL on Unix platform. LOCATION: Can reside in Austin, ,TX, Sandy, UT, Chelmsford, MS, Columbia, MD. From dbii at interaction.net Fri Jun 3 10:18:54 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:18:54 -0500 Subject: APM: Perl Meeting topics Message-ID: <5bba1f3a79e9b32bbb674a6351a8ac80@interaction.net> I've seen one response to this, anyone else have a suggestion or have something they want to talk/hear about? We can find someone to talk on a subject if you want to hear it. Mark, are you up for images yet, or should we wait until July/Aug? David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From ian at remmler.org Fri Jun 3 11:42:01 2005 From: ian at remmler.org (Ian Remmler) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:42:01 -0500 Subject: APM: Perl Meeting topics In-Reply-To: <5bba1f3a79e9b32bbb674a6351a8ac80@interaction.net> References: <5bba1f3a79e9b32bbb674a6351a8ac80@interaction.net> Message-ID: <20050603184201.GA7929@remmler.org> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 12:18:54PM -0500, David Bluestein II wrote: > I've seen one response to this, anyone else have a suggestion or have > something they want to talk/hear about? We can find someone to talk on > a subject if you want to hear it. One thing I think would be fun is to have a "stupid Perl tricks" night. By that I mean all the cool or goofy stuff you can do with Perl that isn't necessarily useful for anything (other than amusement). Anything in the ACME:: namespace would be a good example. That kind of stuff is one of the main reasons I like Perl. I'd be willing to talk about it, but probably not in time for the next meeting. - Ian. -- "Just for the record, my main man is, and has been since 1987, Van Mundegaarde. And don't you forget it!" -- Strong Bad From mark at thelehmanns.net Sun Jun 5 15:58:50 2005 From: mark at thelehmanns.net (Mark Lehmann) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: APM: [Fwd: Linucon 2005 - Perl Panels/Demo/Events? (fwd)] Message-ID: <64682.72.1.130.119.1118012330.squirrel@72.1.130.119> ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Linucon 2005 - Perl Panels/Demo/Events? (fwd) From: "James Choate" Date: Sat, June 4, 2005 11:51 To: austin-owner at pm.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm subscribed to the list, why can I not post? -- -- Open Forge, LLC 24/365 Onsite Support for PCs, Networks, & Game Consoles 512-695-4126 (Austin, Tx.) help at open-forge.com Hangar 18 Open Source Distributed Computing Using Plan 9 & Linux 512-451-7087 http://open-forge.org/hangar18 James Choate 512-451-7087 ravage at ssz.com jchoate at open-forge.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:13:11 -0700 From: austin-owner at pm.org To: jchoate at kraken.open-forge.com Subject: Linucon 2005 - Perl Panels/Demo/Events? You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at austin-owner at pm.org. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: James Choate Subject: Linucon 2005 - Perl Panels/Demo/Events? Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:48:51 -0500 (CDT) Size: 2213 Url: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/austin/attachments/20050605/08ebe63d/Events.mht From mark at thelehmanns.net Sun Jun 5 16:02:49 2005 From: mark at thelehmanns.net (Mark Lehmann) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: APM: Perl Meeting topics In-Reply-To: <5bba1f3a79e9b32bbb674a6351a8ac80@interaction.net> References: <5bba1f3a79e9b32bbb674a6351a8ac80@interaction.net> Message-ID: <64467.72.1.130.119.1118012569.squirrel@72.1.130.119> I'd like a break. Aug is better for me. On Fri, June 3, 2005 12:18, David Bluestein II said: > I've seen one response to this, anyone else have a suggestion or have > something they want to talk/hear about? We can find someone to talk on > a subject if you want to hear it. > > Mark, are you up for images yet, or should we wait until July/Aug? > > David > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > David H. Bluestein II > President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net > ii, inc. > http://www.interaction.net > -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > From dbii at interaction.net Mon Jun 6 22:46:50 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 00:46:50 -0500 Subject: APM: Perl Meeting Topic Suggestion: 5 Perl Modules Message-ID: <1359a44ed87a41260feb53a152ee57f7@interaction.net> I saw that Bill and Ian had a module, and I've got one I can talk about. If we could have two more people volunteer to talk about a cool perl module for 15 minutes or so, that would be a good meeting. Anyone want to volunteer for this for next week? David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From ezra at schema.org Tue Jun 7 06:48:11 2005 From: ezra at schema.org (ezra pagel) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:48:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: APM: Perl Meeting Topic Suggestion: 5 Perl Modules In-Reply-To: <1359a44ed87a41260feb53a152ee57f7@interaction.net> References: <1359a44ed87a41260feb53a152ee57f7@interaction.net> Message-ID: Has anyone discussed Log::Log4perl before? If not, you can slot me in for 15 minutes on it. -Ezra On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, David Bluestein II wrote: > I saw that Bill and Ian had a module, and I've got one I can talk > about. If we could have two more people volunteer to talk about a cool > perl module for 15 minutes or so, that would be a good meeting. Anyone > want to volunteer for this for next week? > > David > From dbii at interaction.net Tue Jun 7 10:11:55 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:11:55 -0500 Subject: APM: Monthly Meeting Topic: Perl Modules Message-ID: The tentative list is: Log::Log4perl - Ezra Pagel Java.pm - Bill Raty Acme::? - Ian Remmler (?) Catalyst(?) - David Bluestein ? - [Insert your name here] Any volunteers for 5th slot? Ian can you talk about some Acme module? David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From dbii at interaction.net Thu Jun 9 14:54:25 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:54:25 -0500 Subject: APM: Meeting Next Wednesday the 15th Message-ID: <011c4dcc0716a797fa5c1d8139ceebe4@interaction.net> It is that time again, and we have a split topic for this month, with 4 presenters. Ezra Pagel: Log::Log4perl Bill Raty: Java.pm (and how to call Java using a Perl interface) Ian Remmler: Acme::* (and a secret program demo to be revealed live at the meeting) David Bluestein: Catalyst (Perl's answer to Ruby on Rails and AJAX) [Time Permitting] We'll also discuss a joint meeting with the MySQL users group where we show off how perl works with Mysql. Date: Wednesday, June 15 Time: 7:00 pm Location: ARL (see http://austin.pm.org) Dinner: 5:45 at Double Dave's on Metric Ian, please check on Internet and Overhead Sam, can you update the website? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From dbii at interaction.net Tue Jun 14 13:11:14 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:11:14 -0500 Subject: APM: Wednesday Meeting Announcement Message-ID: Tomorrow (Wednesday) we'll be having four speakers on a variety of interesting topics. Something for everyone. Perl Logging, writing Perl to write Java, Acme surprises, and Perl AJAX (Ruby on Rails for perl). ? Ezra Pagel: Log::Log4perl ? Bill Raty: Java.pm (and how to call Java using a Perl interface) ? Ian Remmler: Acme::* (and a secret program demo to be revealed live at the meeting) ? David Bluestein: Catalyst (Perl's answer to Ruby on Rails and AJAX) [Time Permitting] We'll also review future meeting topics from our list of 5 or 6 ideas from last meeting and mailing list. Meeting starts at 7 pm, at ARL (http://austin.pm.org/) Dinner (and final presentation writing) at Double Dave's at 5:45 pm. David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From mdknauss at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 08:48:19 2005 From: mdknauss at yahoo.com (Martie Knauss) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: APM: user accounts in Linux Message-ID: <20050615154820.62298.qmail@web51907.mail.yahoo.com> Hello! I have a question re: user accounts in Linux. I'm a systems admin here in Austin and I'm working with a vendor to install a new Linux box (Linux version 2.4.21-20 according to uname -a). The vendor is reporting that the application they are trying to install has certain files that must be owned by bin:bin (user:group). My understanding is that Linux has 3 basic user account versions: root (privilidged), service, and basic user accounts. My guess is that the bin account is a service type account. So what is unique about the bin account and why would the vendors application have certain files that need to be owned by bin? Especially when a basic user account would be starting the application. Thanks in advance. Martie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From dbii at interaction.net Wed Jun 15 22:19:55 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:19:55 -0500 Subject: APM: Catalyst and DBI Message-ID: <3553c34c007ed635a8922f148c39be20@interaction.net> In light of our discussion of Catalyst, Ruby on Rails and Class::DBI, here is one persons take on it: http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/archives/2005/06/ruby_on_rails_a.html Seems like Catalyst is a little advanced over RoR in general (which may also mean that it came second and learned from RoR errors, but I'm just speculating on that), but still missing what he calls the "ActiveRecord-type" framework, where the framework can effectively mimic simple joins, which is the issue with Class::DBI that several of us have seen. Seems like that is a common issue. Wonder what Tim Bunce (DBI.pm) and others have to think on this and what a solution is. I wonder how Ruby on Rails handles it, anyone know? David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From dbii at interaction.net Wed Jun 15 22:25:55 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:25:55 -0500 Subject: APM: Catalyst Class::DBI solution Message-ID: <6dd3927afeec4176ea515d9cbd4dcd1e@interaction.net> Apparently they are already working on it. I was reading the page from the Google cache and it didn't have comments since they were approved today at noon. From the comments: You should check out the next release of Class::DBI::Sweet - currently only available in the Catalyst svn-repository http://maypole.perl.org/repos/Catalyst/trunk but coming to a CPAN-mirror near you real soon. Posted by: Lars Balker Rasmussen at June 12, 2005 10:48 PM Class::DBI::Sweet (a substantially improved Class::DBI subclass developed by the #catalyst coders) now has support for joining on load to only require a single query in the main source repo - http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/changeset/814 We'll hopefully get some more tests done for it and do a release to CPAN in the next week or two So Wayne, maybe this solves our mutual problem. I'll be watching. David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From glim at mycybernet.net Thu Jun 16 21:47:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (Gerard Lim) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:47 -0400 Subject: APM: Last-minute reminder -- YAPC::NA 2005 Message-ID: Here's a last reminder about Yet Another Perl Conference, North America (YAPC::NA 2005) http://yapc.org/America In case anyone out there has been sitting on the fence or has been meaning to register but has put it on the backburner until now, here is a final information package. Dates: Mon - Wed June 27 - 29, 2005 (11 days from now!) Location: 89 Chestnut Street, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Accommodations ============== Due to recent renegotiations with the conference facility and hotel, 89 Chestnut, there are still a few rooms left. For details on accommodations go to: http://www.yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml For quick and easy booking: 89 Chestnut Phone: +1-416-977-0707 Conference booking code: perl0626 The base rate is approx. CAD$80/night, which is *great* for downtown Toronto. Add in taxes and in-room high speed internet and it's up to about CAD$95/night. Book yourself to check-in on Sunday the 26th and check-out on the morning of Wednesday the 29th. Conference Registration ======================= Registration is easy and cheap - only USD$85 - see http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml for details or register directly online at http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 The schedule is awesome - http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day1.html >From here, click on the "Day 2" and "Day 3" spots near the top to go from page to page. Click on a talk name to get details regarding the talk. Speakers include Larry Wall, Allison Randal, Autrijus Tang, Brian Ingerson, Andy Lester, chromatic, brian d foy, Chip Salzenberg & Dan Sugalski... and many more! [ This message was sent by Gerard Lim on behalf of the YAPC::NA 2005 Conference organizing committee of the Toronto Perl Mongers. Thanks for your patience and support. ] From dbii at interaction.net Sun Jun 19 19:19:04 2005 From: dbii at interaction.net (David Bluestein II) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:19:04 -0500 Subject: APM: O'Reilly Open Source Convention Discount Message-ID: <9ca4a425e49c36cf90528537d8c0c30d@interaction.net> The O'Reilly Open Source Convention User Group Discount information is listed below. The early registration deadline is Monday, June 20th (tomorrow), FYI. User group discount is 15% more, but usable anytime. This conference is much more formal (and expensive) than YAPC which is being held in a couple of weeks, and includes many other tracks. Just an FYI if you are interested. ***Registration is Open for the O'Reilly Open Source Convention, Portland, OR--August 1-5 OSCON 2005 explores three deep trends affecting open source: the commoditization of software, network-enabled collaboration, and software customizability. Join us at this essential gathering of open source leaders and practitioners of every persuasion to exchange ideas and push the boundaries of vital open source technologies. This year, we introduce the Open Source Business Review, along with a host of other exciting presentations and events. http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/ User Group members who register before June 20, 2005 get a double discount. Use code "os05grpusr" when you register, and receive 15% off the early registration price. To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2005/create/ord_os05 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David H. Bluestein II President & Lead Developer dbii at interaction.net ii, inc. http://www.interaction.net -- Specializing in Interactive, Database Driven Websites -- From jeremy at stuact.tamu.edu Thu Jun 30 09:42:41 2005 From: jeremy at stuact.tamu.edu (Fluhmann, Jeremy) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:42:41 -0500 Subject: APM: Did you guys know this Message-ID: <297203B1AD107A438D2616D3A8E9B38203328820@DSAE2K.DSAD.AD.TAMU.EDU> I just found this out today. Bjarne Stroustrup works for Texas A&M University (where I now work. I'm the guy that used to work for McLane Company). Amazing! http://www.answers.com/topic/bjarne-stroustrup Jeremy Fluhmann Microcomputer Specialist Department of Student Activities Texas A&M University 979-458-4649 jeremy at stuact.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. 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To paraphrase, he said "No, I'm pretty busy and I really don't have time to keep up with everything like that." The he said, "Do you know where the refreshments are?" :) - Ian. -- "Just for the record, my main man is, and has been since 1987, Van Mundegaarde. And don't you forget it!" -- Strong Bad From jeremy at stuact.tamu.edu Thu Jun 30 12:22:48 2005 From: jeremy at stuact.tamu.edu (Fluhmann, Jeremy) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:22:48 -0500 Subject: APM: Did you guys know this Message-ID: <297203B1AD107A438D2616D3A8E9B382E0FE42@DSAE2K.DSAD.AD.TAMU.EDU> Did you know where the refreshments were? :) I'm trying to startup a Perl Mongers group here in the Bryan/College Station area (http://bvpm.tamu.edu soon to move to the pm.org server). I'm guessing that he probably wouldn't have any interest in speaking at a meeting. :( I don't know what he would speak about, but I'm just excited that I found out he lives/works here. -----Original Message----- From: austin-bounces at pm.org [mailto:austin-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Ian Remmler Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:20 PM To: austin at pm.org Subject: Re: APM: Did you guys know this On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 11:42:41AM -0500, Fluhmann, Jeremy wrote: > I just found this out today. Bjarne Stroustrup works for Texas A&M > University (where I now work. I'm the guy that used to work for McLane > Company). Amazing! I was a grad student at A&M when he first moved there. I went to a talk he gave once, and happened to bump into him at a reception afterward. I asked him if he had been paying any attention to the development of Perl 6, specifically the design process. To paraphrase, he said "No, I'm pretty busy and I really don't have time to keep up with everything like that." The he said, "Do you know where the refreshments are?" :) - Ian. -- "Just for the record, my main man is, and has been since 1987, Van Mundegaarde. And don't you forget it!" -- Strong Bad _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin