From jcalkins at swcp.com  Wed Jul 11 13:33:13 2007
From: jcalkins at swcp.com (Joe Calkins)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:33:13 -0600
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) Status of Wiki
Message-ID: <4694EA29.13671.25D0C45@jcalkins.swcp.com>

Hello all. Briefly the following is from a discussion among Perl Mongers 
organizers about having their group Web page on a Wiki site and allowing 
the members to maintain their own sections of the page. To this socially-
challenged dude it sounds an awful lot like interacting and organizing and 
so on. Comments? Is anyone interested in this? Would anyone like me to 
forward their thoughts about the concept to the Perl Mongers powers? Linda, 
you mentioned this as a possibility once. What are your thoughts?

-- 
Joe Calkins
jcalkins at swcp.com
mobile (505) 321-6030


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Date sent:      	Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:28:56 -0700
From:           	"Chris Simmons" <simmons.chris at gmail.com>

This is an excellent idea. I'd most likely move Vancouver.pm to this -
hopefully it would foster participation from the Vancouver Perl
community.

-chris

On 7/11/07, Bill Odom <billodom at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Here's part of the proposal I put together a few weeks back, when I
> (re)proposed Andy's original wikis-for-PMs idea to the Socialtext
> Powers-That-Be. I wanted to share it with everyone, so you could get
> an idea of what I was asking ST to provide, and to get feedback or
> questions before we move forward and make a broader announcement.
> Please let me know what you think.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill
>
> P.S. - Sorry for the wikitext; it's copied from a posting on an
> internal ST workspace.
>
> -----
>
> ^ Proposal
>
> Provide free wiki hosting for PerlMongers groups.
>
> ^ Specifics
>
> Provide a workspace for every PerlMongers group, upon request.
>
> Only create workspaces upon request, since:
>
> * Some PMs already have their own wikis, and won't need or want a new one.
> * Some PMs won't want to use a hosted wiki (for whatever reason).
> * We don't want want to create a large number of workspaces that may
> never get used.
> * We don't want to offend community members by creating something in
> their name without permission.
> * We need to know the admin of the workspace.
>
> Group leaders are allowed to request a PM workspace.
>
> * List of groups, with contact info, available at
> http://www.pm.org/groups/index.html
> * May need to work with/through Jos? Castro (TPF Community Relations)
> and Jay Hannah (PM Admin)
>
> What information do we need from requesters to create a workspace?
>
> * Group name
> * Admin email address(es)
>
> Consider providing a general PerlMongers workspace in addition to the
> PM-specific workspaces.
>
> > Although PM-specific workspaces provide a sense of control and ownership that one large workspace doesn't, there's still value in having a general workspace that any PM member can use. Shared content could go there, and be linked/transcluded as necessary within PM-group workspaces. Any individual PM member could also be a member of this general workspace.
>
> Establish a pattern before starting; we don't want to make this up as
> we go. Specifically, we should know the:
>
> * Naming convention
> * Content template
> * Default features
> * Limitations, if any
>
> ^^ Trust
>
> Allay fears up front. Convey to PM leaders and members that:
>
> * You can always leave, and take your data with you.
> * Your content belongs to you.
> * Source is always freely available.
> * We won't spam you or try to sell you anything.
>
> Specifically, we need to provide an easy way for people to export
> their data, so there's never any doubt that this isn't about holding
> people hostage.
>
> ^^ Hosting
>
> The existing ST community server has more than enough capacity to
> handle this, so there's no need for new infrastructure.
>
> ^^ Access and Visibility
>
> Content should be publicly visible, but editable only by workspace members.
>
> ^^ Workspace names and URLs
>
> This is probably the best form:
>
> * http://wiki.pm.org/stlouis-pm/
>
> Another possibility:
>
> * http://wiki.pm.org/stlouis-perlmongers/
>
> Both of these require only a single DNS entry (for wiki.pm.org) and
> provide a natural grouping for all the sites. The suffixes (-pm /
> -perlmongers) decrease the likelihood of name collisions with other
> workspaces already hosted on the box.
>
> Of the two, I slightly prefer the first one. It's shorter, and matches
> the way many PM members refer to their groups.
>
> ^^ Content Template
>
> Consider providing a template appropriate for user-group-style content:
>
> * Member list (may just be workspace members, to encourage people to
> join the wiki)
> * Meeting location and map (a good way to demo Google maps plugin)
> * Meeting schedule (calendar plugin)
> * Archived meeting notes
> * Member presentations (attachments)
> * Member blogs
> * Member photos
> * Code samples (as both attachments and .pre blocks)
> * Content of interest to Perl developers (REST API docs, alternative
> editing tools, etc.)
>
> ^^ Support
>
> Support for these workspaces will be the same as for other community
> workspaces. PM members and workspace admins will have access to
> http://www.socialtext.net/open/ and /exchange, the mailing lists, and
> to #socialtext on IRC. Also, many ST employees are well-known within
> the Perl community; we're pretty easy to find if someone needs help.


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From andy at petdance.com  Wed Jul 11 13:47:04 2007
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:47:04 -0500
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) Status of Wiki
In-Reply-To: <4694EA29.13671.25D0C45@jcalkins.swcp.com>
References: <4694EA29.13671.25D0C45@jcalkins.swcp.com>
Message-ID: <EE46FED8-1B7C-4D40-8F9F-93D5F13A1866@petdance.com>


On Jul 11, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Joe Calkins wrote:

> Hello all. Briefly the following is from a discussion among Perl  
> Mongers organizers about having their group Web page on a Wiki site  
> and allowing the members to maintain their own sections of the  
> page. To this socially- challenged dude it sounds an awful lot like  
> interacting and organizing and so on. Comments? Is anyone  
> interested in this? Would anyone like me to forward their thoughts  
> about the concept to the Perl Mongers powers? Linda, you mentioned  
> this as a possibility once. What are your thoughts?

More specifically, each PM group could have its own wiki workspace,  
which would be specific to the group.

Here's the Chicago.PM wiki: http://chicago.pm.org/wiki/Main_Page

with our membership list: http://chicago.pm.org/wiki/Membership_list

and our list of presentations we're looking for: http:// 
chicago.pm.org/wiki/Presentations_wanted

etc etc etc

xoxo,
Andy


--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From jcalkins at swcp.com  Mon Jul 16 18:02:17 2007
From: jcalkins at swcp.com (Joe Calkins)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:02:17 -0600
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) [pm_groups] YAPC::Europe 2007 - Schedule Released
Message-ID: <469BC0B9.22207.5557196@jcalkins.swcp.com>


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From:           	Michael Kr?ll <pepl at cpan.org>

The organisers for the YAPC::Europe 2007 are pleased to announce the
launch of the preliminary conference schedule.

The schedule for the 77 quality talks is available at
http://vienna.yapceurope.org/ye2007/schedule

Don't forget to register if you haven't done so yet and visit
http://vienna.yapceurope.org/ for regular updates!

Speakers please don't forget that papers/slides for the conference
proceedings are due by next Sunday, 22nd July 2007!

Cheers,
Michael Kr?ll
On behalf of the YAPC::Europe 2007 organisers

--
YAPC::Europe 2007, 28th to 30th August 2007
Vienna, Austria
http://vienna.yapceurope.org/ye2007/

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jcalkins at swcp.com
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From jcalkins at swcp.com  Fri Jul 27 13:39:24 2007
From: jcalkins at swcp.com (Joe Calkins)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:39:24 -0600
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) Perl survey
Message-ID: <46AA039C.20976.3D4E05BD@jcalkins.swcp.com>

I don't know either Jos? or Kirrily.

-- 
Joe Calkins
jcalkins at swcp.com
mobile (505) 321-6030

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From:           	Jos? Alves de Castro <jose at pm.org>
Date sent:      	Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:56:54 +0100
To:             	pm_groups at pm.org

Hi, guys!

Kirrily is doing a Perl survey :-)

I answered the questions and it seems to be an interesting and  
valuable effort.

For those of you who don't know Kirrily (aka Skud), I can vouch for  
her. She's one of us :-)

That said, she'd appreciate it if you all took some time to take her  
survey and to convince your pm'ers to take it too.

Cheers, :-)

jac


Begin forwarded message:

> Take part in the 2007 Perl Survey!
>
> The Perl Survey is an attempt to capture a picture of the Perl  
> community
> in all its diversity.  No matter what sort of Perl programmer you are,
> we'd love to hear from you.
>
> The survey can be found at: http://perlsurvey.org
>
> It only takes about 5 minutes to complete.
>
> The survey will be open until September 30th, 2007.  After that,  
> we'll be
> reporting on the results and making the data freely available.
>
> Please feel free to forward this email to anyone other Perl  
> programmers
> you know.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Yours,
>
> Kirrily "Skud" Robert
> The Perl Survey
> info at perlsurvey.org

--
Jose Castro
TPF Community Relations Leader
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From guinevere.nell at gmail.com  Fri Jul 27 14:37:23 2007
From: guinevere.nell at gmail.com (Guinevere Nell)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:37:23 -0500
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) Perl survey
In-Reply-To: <46AA039C.20976.3D4E05BD@jcalkins.swcp.com>
References: <46AA039C.20976.3D4E05BD@jcalkins.swcp.com>
Message-ID: <a00ff3820707271437h5b88ec44h228b1b4f6d672672@mail.gmail.com>

I know Skud.  Do the survey.

On 7/27/07, Joe Calkins <jcalkins at swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know either Jos? or Kirrily.
>
> --
> Joe Calkins
> jcalkins at swcp.com
> mobile (505) 321-6030
>
> ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> From:                   Jos? Alves de Castro <jose at pm.org>
> Date sent:              Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:56:54 +0100
> To:                     pm_groups at pm.org
>
> Hi, guys!
>
> Kirrily is doing a Perl survey :-)
>
> I answered the questions and it seems to be an interesting and
> valuable effort.
>
> For those of you who don't know Kirrily (aka Skud), I can vouch for
> her. She's one of us :-)
>
> That said, she'd appreciate it if you all took some time to take her
> survey and to convince your pm'ers to take it too.
>
> Cheers, :-)
>
> jac
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > Take part in the 2007 Perl Survey!
> >
> > The Perl Survey is an attempt to capture a picture of the Perl
> > community
> > in all its diversity.  No matter what sort of Perl programmer you are,
> > we'd love to hear from you.
> >
> > The survey can be found at: http://perlsurvey.org
> >
> > It only takes about 5 minutes to complete.
> >
> > The survey will be open until September 30th, 2007.  After that,
> > we'll be
> > reporting on the results and making the data freely available.
> >
> > Please feel free to forward this email to anyone other Perl
> > programmers
> > you know.
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kirrily "Skud" Robert
> > The Perl Survey
> > info at perlsurvey.org
>
> --
> Jose Castro
> TPF Community Relations Leader
> ------- End of forwarded message -------
>
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From jcalkins at swcp.com  Sat Jul 28 17:36:51 2007
From: jcalkins at swcp.com (Joe Calkins)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:36:51 -0600
Subject: [ABQ-pm] (Fwd) YAPC::NA T-shirts and tote bags
Message-ID: <46AB8CC3.6404.1C939BE@jcalkins.swcp.com>

pics at http://flickr.com/photos/matthewblack/640655157/
and http://flickr.com/photos/randal-schwartz/617559473/

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Date sent:      	Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:26:51 -0500
From:           	"G. Wade Johnson" <wade at anomaly.org>

For those of you who did not get a chance to get the limited edition
YAPC::NA 2007 t-shirt, now's your chance.

Thanks to lower than expected turnout to the Houston YAPC, we have a
number of the t-shirts and tote bags left over. Rather than throwing
them away or donating them, we're selling them. I'll be collecting the
money and returning it to the Perl Foundation.

  We have shirts in sizes from M to XXXL: $5.
  We have the tote bags: $2.

I'll also request that you pay shipping.

It would be easiest to send out sets of shirts/totes rather than
individual items. So I thought you might want to ask your groups if
they want to get together an order to help support the Perl Foundation.

If you are interested let me know. The supply is not infinite, but I've
got several boxes in my home that my wife would like me to clear
out.<grin/>

G. Wade
Houston.pm
-- 
The shortest distances between two puns is a straight-line.

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