From will at coleda.com Tue Sep 9 14:20:09 2014 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:20:09 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Next meetings dates? In-Reply-To: <81F83687-3C7F-4E65-A452-49731F377190@gmail.com> References: <81F83687-3C7F-4E65-A452-49731F377190@gmail.com> Message-ID: Were you able to settle on a date? Now that we're closer to the date, both of these look fine to me. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Mongers, > > I'm looking into dates for our next tech meeting. EG Library has 22 and 29 > September available. Any preferences? I hope to book the room by Friday > this week. > > In terms of talks, Leander has suggested a code review meeting. It sounds > like a great idea to me; I'm the only one at work who speaks Perl, and I > don't think I've ever gotten feedback on any of my code. How about it? > > -Pat > > ------------------------------ > [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / > attachments > > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > -- Will "Coke" Coleda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oshihuna at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 20:35:47 2014 From: oshihuna at gmail.com (Patrick Cronin) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:35:47 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Next meetings dates? In-Reply-To: References: <81F83687-3C7F-4E65-A452-49731F377190@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just registered the 29th, as Mark said it's more likely. I've got to apologize, I let this slip a bit. Work is getting too busy! Patrick Cronin Computer Lover Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 Email: oshihuna at gmail.com Skype: patrickcronin12061 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments On 9 Sep 2014, at 5:20 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > Were you able to settle on a date? Now that we're closer to the date, both of these look fine to me. > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Mongers, > > I'm looking into dates for our next tech meeting. EG Library has 22 and 29 September available. Any preferences? I hope to book the room by Friday this week. > > In terms of talks, Leander has suggested a code review meeting. It sounds like a great idea to me; I'm the only one at work who speaks Perl, and I don't think I've ever gotten feedback on any of my code. How about it? > > -Pat > > Patrick Cronin > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments > > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > > > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From racke at linuxia.de Thu Sep 11 02:17:55 2014 From: racke at linuxia.de (Stefan Hornburg (Racke)) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:17:55 +0200 Subject: [albany-pm] Early bird tickets for Perl::Dancer conference Message-ID: <541168C3.5090901@linuxia.de> Early bird tickets for the Perl Dancer conference are available for sale until 12th September. You are saving 20 $ on the ticket for the training (6./7. October) and 30 $ on the ticket for the conference (8./9. October). On top of that students save 50% with a valid student ID. Please register for the conference on http://act.perl.dance/eic2014/registration.html and follow the payment instructions on the bottom of the page. Our main speakers are Sawyer X (Dancer) and Peter Rabbitson (DBIx::Class). Presentations are about Dancer, DBIx::Class and E-Commerce amongst other topics. Check http://act.perl.dance/eic2014/talks for more information. You can also still submit your own presentation at http://act.perl.dance/eic2014/newtalk. The conference is sponsored by Bottlenose, Endpoint, Booking.com, Perusion, West Branch Angler and M & D. Go to http://act.perl.dance for more information or contact us at 2014 at perl.dance. Regards Racke -- Perl and Dancer Development Visit our Perl::Dancer conference 2014: http://act.perl.dance/ From mark at twoshortplanks.com Thu Sep 11 09:22:52 2014 From: mark at twoshortplanks.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:22:52 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Next meetings dates? In-Reply-To: References: <81F83687-3C7F-4E65-A452-49731F377190@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've updated the website / lanyrd with the new details. Mark. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Just registered the 29th, as Mark said it's more likely. I've got to > apologize, I let this slip a bit. Work is getting too busy! > > ------------------------------ > [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / > attachments > > On 9 Sep 2014, at 5:20 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > > Were you able to settle on a date? Now that we're closer to the date, both > of these look fine to me. > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Patrick Cronin > wrote: > >> Mongers, >> >> I'm looking into dates for our next tech meeting. EG Library has 22 and >> 29 September available. Any preferences? I hope to book the room by Friday >> this week. >> >> In terms of talks, Leander has suggested a code review meeting. It sounds >> like a great idea to me; I'm the only one at work who speaks Perl, and I >> don't think I've ever gotten feedback on any of my code. How about it? >> >> -Pat >> >> ------------------------------ >> [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* >> Computer Lover >> Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 >> Email: oshihuna at gmail.com >> Skype: patrickcronin12061 >> >> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / >> attachments >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Albany-pm mailing list >> Albany-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm >> > > > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > > > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From will at coleda.com Mon Sep 22 08:46:04 2014 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:46:04 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday September Meeting Message-ID: Do we have anyone lined up to talk? I am more than willing to eat some time talking about Perl 6. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From oshihuna at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 08:54:09 2014 From: oshihuna at gmail.com (Patrick Cronin) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:54:09 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday September Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93DD6259-BC57-44DC-AD8F-33F2D1433A8F@gmail.com> Leander had the idea to have a code review meeting. Since I rarely get the opportunity for people to review my code, I thought it was a great idea as well. Depending on the number of people who come with code, and the length of that code, I'd be happy to hear about Perl 6! Do you have any experience with code review meetings? I've never had one! :( -Pat Patrick Cronin Computer Lover Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 Email: oshihuna at gmail.com Skype: patrickcronin12061 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments On 22 Sep 2014, at 11:46 AM, Will Coleda wrote: > Do we have anyone lined up to talk? > > I am more than willing to eat some time talking about Perl 6. > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From will at coleda.com Mon Sep 22 08:57:50 2014 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:57:50 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday September Meeting In-Reply-To: <93DD6259-BC57-44DC-AD8F-33F2D1433A8F@gmail.com> References: <93DD6259-BC57-44DC-AD8F-33F2D1433A8F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Perl 6 - I will not prepare a presentation then, but will be ready to chat. Code Reviews - I handle them in an hoc fashion where I am now. Everyone on the team gets the commit emails showing the diffs; I use this as a way to review the implementation of the fix, the code style, etc., and I'll send an email or chat with the developer as needed. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Leander had the idea to have a code review meeting. Since I rarely get the > opportunity for people to review my code, I thought it was a great idea as > well. Depending on the number of people who come with code, and the length > of that code, I'd be happy to hear about Perl 6! > > Do you have any experience with code review meetings? I've never had one! > :( > > -Pat > ------------------------------ > [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / > attachments > > On 22 Sep 2014, at 11:46 AM, Will Coleda wrote: > > Do we have anyone lined up to talk? > > I am more than willing to eat some time talking about Perl 6. > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > > > -- Will "Coke" Coleda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oshihuna at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 17:51:15 2014 From: oshihuna at gmail.com (Patrick Cronin) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:51:15 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday's meeting - code reviews! Message-ID: <98E5DA00-1CC0-4674-91A8-66CC82F04A4C@gmail.com> Does Perl have coding standards? Is Conway's Perl Best Practices still relevant? Has chromatic's Modern Perl stayed modern? Come to our next tech meeting tomorrow, 29 September at the East Greenbush Library in Meeting Room B, and find out. It's our first (that I know of) code review meeting! Bring some code you'd like to get some comments on, your expert knowledge to share, or just come for some interesting information sharing and discussion. It'll be a great opportunity for those who've never had their code reviewed, or, who want to know more about coding standards for Perl programs. Pizza and drinks will be provided -- please reply to me if you're coming so I can make sure to cover you. See you there! -Pat Patrick Cronin Computer Lover Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 Email: oshihuna at gmail.com Skype: patrickcronin12061 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From oshihuna at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 18:21:09 2014 From: oshihuna at gmail.com (Patrick Cronin) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:21:09 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday's meeting - code reviews! In-Reply-To: <98E5DA00-1CC0-4674-91A8-66CC82F04A4C@gmail.com> References: <98E5DA00-1CC0-4674-91A8-66CC82F04A4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I forgot to mention: The meeting will start a 6:30 and go to around 8:30. See you there! > On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > > Does Perl have coding standards? Is Conway's Perl Best Practices still relevant? Has chromatic's Modern Perl stayed modern? > > Come to our next tech meeting tomorrow, 29 September at the East Greenbush Library in Meeting Room B, and find out. It's our first (that I know of) code review meeting! Bring some code you'd like to get some comments on, your expert knowledge to share, or just come for some interesting information sharing and discussion. It'll be a great opportunity for those who've never had their code reviewed, or, who want to know more about coding standards for Perl programs. > > Pizza and drinks will be provided -- please reply to me if you're coming so I can make sure to cover you. > > See you there! > -Pat > Patrick Cronin > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at twoshortplanks.com Mon Sep 29 13:55:40 2014 From: mark at twoshortplanks.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:55:40 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Monday's meeting - code reviews! In-Reply-To: References: <98E5DA00-1CC0-4674-91A8-66CC82F04A4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm still falling over after getting back from the Surge conference this weekend, and won't be able to make it out of the house this evening. Have fun. Mark. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > I forgot to mention: > > The meeting will start a 6:30 and go to around 8:30. > > See you there! > > > > On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > > Does Perl have coding standards? Is Conway's Perl Best Practices still > relevant? Has chromatic's Modern Perl stayed modern? > > Come to our next tech meeting tomorrow, 29 September at the East Greenbush > Library in Meeting Room B, and find out. It's our first (that I know of) > code review meeting! Bring some code you'd like to get some comments on, > your expert knowledge to share, or just come for some interesting > information sharing and discussion. It'll be a great opportunity for those > who've never had their code reviewed, or, who want to know more about > coding standards for Perl programs. > > Pizza and drinks will be provided -- please reply to me if you're coming > so I can make sure to cover you. > > See you there! > -Pat > ------------------------------ > [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / > attachments > > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oshihuna at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 08:26:18 2014 From: oshihuna at gmail.com (Patrick Cronin) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:26:18 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Tech meeting Message-ID: Great meeting last night. I got my first code review on a tiny script and the feedback was super useful. I always learn something new. A couple follow-ups: 1. "Ring", "Creaky door" and "Hey can ya hear me?" Did anyone "accidentally leave" an Eviltron on my bag at the meeting last night? I'm still trying to figure out how to turn it off. (Just wondering if you want it back.) I was lucky enough to recognize the sounds of the device after a while because I am also an owner, but it definitely caught me off guard this morning and took a while to figure out what was happening. 2. I like our meet up because I usually learn a lot, and it's never boring. In case you're interested, I've been to a couple other tech meetings in the area which have larger followings of tech minded people: a. Tech Valley Ruby Brigade - 4th Wednesday of each month, 6 - 8:30PM, at Enable Labs in Troy. Food and drinks provided. Presentations are usually related to Ruby, sometimes lightning talks, sometimes project days. Attendees (usually 10-20 people) are all tech minded and range from 0 Ruby ability - expert Ruby ability. Nice community and some very smart people. b. Capital District Linux Users Group (CDLUG) - usually 1st Saturday of every month, 1-3PM, at East Greenbush Library. No food/drinks provided. More of a meet up than anything else, people come in, plug in, and work on their own projects (which range the gamut from software to hardware to homemade electronic peripherals), help with others', or just see what's going on. Attendees (usually 7-12 people) range the gamut on abilities, and you do not need to have a penguin patch on your bag to get in. Relaxed atmosphere. Active mailing list. c. Albany 2600 - First Friday of each month, usually meets at or around SUNY Albany from 6:00 PM - 8 or so. Meetup style meeting. 2600 advances the notion that "hackers" are people who are curious about how things work, and the term should not be applied to people who break into computer systems with malevolent intent. Historically, 2600 took its name from phreaking (phone "hacking" - building and using things like red boxes and blue boxes). 2600 currently concerns itself with governments' and individuals' use/abuse of technology within the realms of innovation, media treatment, espionage, and privacy (both domestic and abroad). The local meet up is attended by 10 or so people who are technically curious individuals who are hackers in the 2600 sense. The best way to find the meeting for the month is via their IRC channel. 3. Is anyone interested in doing a social meet up just before Halloween? -Pat Patrick Cronin Computer Lover Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 Email: oshihuna at gmail.com Skype: patrickcronin12061 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / attachments -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From mark at twoshortplanks.com Tue Sep 30 08:30:11 2014 From: mark at twoshortplanks.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:30:11 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Tech meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like a good meeting, sorry to have missed it. I actually was at the EGL on the first of this month, and the CDLUG was going on at the same time as I was there. I had my young children with me at the time, so didn't have time to go into the room to say hi to anyone, but it did look like a friendly group. Mark. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Great meeting last night. I got my first code review on a tiny script and > the feedback was super useful. I always learn something new. > > A couple follow-ups: > > 1. "Ring", "Creaky door" and "Hey can ya hear me?" Did anyone > "accidentally leave" an Eviltron on my bag at the meeting last night? I'm > still trying to figure out how to turn it off. (Just wondering if you want > it back.) I was lucky enough to recognize the sounds of the device after a > while because I am also an owner, but it definitely caught me off guard > this morning and took a while to figure out what was happening. > > 2. I like our meet up because I usually learn a lot, and it's never > boring. In case you're interested, I've been to a couple other tech > meetings in the area which have larger followings of tech minded people: > a. Tech Valley Ruby Brigade - 4th Wednesday > of each month, 6 - 8:30PM, at Enable Labs in Troy. Food and drinks > provided. Presentations are usually related to Ruby, sometimes lightning > talks, sometimes project days. Attendees (usually 10-20 people) are all > tech minded and range from 0 Ruby ability - expert Ruby ability. Nice > community and some very smart people. > b. Capital District Linux Users Group (CDLUG) - > usually 1st Saturday of every month, 1-3PM, at East Greenbush Library. No > food/drinks provided. More of a meet up than anything else, people come in, > plug in, and work on their own projects (which range the gamut from > software to hardware to homemade electronic peripherals), help with > others', or just see what's going on. Attendees (usually 7-12 people) range > the gamut on abilities, and you do not need to have a penguin patch on your > bag to get in. Relaxed atmosphere. Active mailing list. > c. Albany 2600 - First Friday of each month, > usually meets at or around SUNY Albany from 6:00 PM - 8 or so. Meetup style > meeting. 2600 advances the notion that "hackers" are people who are curious > about how things work, and the term should not be applied to people who > break into computer systems with malevolent intent. Historically, 2600 took > its name from phreaking (phone "hacking" - building and using things like > red boxes and blue boxes). 2600 currently concerns itself with governments' > and individuals' use/abuse of technology within the realms of innovation, > media treatment, espionage, and privacy (both domestic and abroad). The > local meet up is attended by 10 or so people who are technically curious > individuals who are hackers in the 2600 sense. The best way to find the > meeting for the month is via their IRC channel. > > 3. Is anyone interested in doing a social meet up just before Halloween? > > -Pat > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Patrick's Avatar]*Patrick Cronin* > Computer Lover > Mobile: +1 518 336 5133 > Email: oshihuna at gmail.com > Skype: patrickcronin12061 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail / > attachments > > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taril42 at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 09:15:49 2014 From: taril42 at gmail.com (Leander Hasty) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:15:49 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Tech meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Patrick Cronin wrote: > Great meeting last night. I got my first code review on a tiny script and > the feedback was super useful. As a tiny bit of followup, and to possibly generate some discussion, I'm attaching a few pages from our internal wiki (HTML only, zipped up together) on our code review guidelines and such. This stuff leans heavily toward C++ in some areas, and some of it is skewed toward our corner of the gamedev industry, but some of it is very general, too. Rather than fighting any mailinglist filters, here's a Google Drive link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B05LWIT5_ltRaVlkNC04QXlCcFU/edit?usp=sharing We have a bit of a "tiered" coding standard. We start with just three items in [[Programming/Philosophy]] -- "if you're only going to remember three things, remember these general principles", and then expand outwards. "The Basics" section at the top of [[Programming/Coding Standard]] expands this to a small but still general set of 9 guidelines, then the rest of that doc dives into C++ minutia, but the principle of trying to keep 3 really big things, then ~7-10 of the most common problems around somewhere has helped us tremendously. People aren't expected to know the whole coding standard backwards and forwards, just those top items. To reinforce that, we encourage folks to build their own personal version of something like [[Programming/Code Review Guidelines]] -- a single sheet checklist they can take with them to code reviews. (Even that is broken up into "three biggest things to remember when reviewing" followed by more detailed lists.) The [[Production/Checkin Policy]] covers some of the more "meta" stuff about how we operate -- small commits, in-person code reviews pre-commit whenever possible, etc. It gets into some of the common problems associated with SVN, but again, most of it is pretty general. [[IT/SVN Best Practices]] is mostly irrelevant unless you're a Subversion user, but the section about "Messages" has some interesting stuff about commit message composition that I thought people might find interesting in light of last night's conversation. We also discussed briefly the idea of documentation reviews -- I included our [[MDD Example]] page. An MDD is a "miniature design document" -- the idea is a half-page to page document to cover the next half-day to day of work or so (possibly less, possibly more). The format has worked pretty well for us, although we do encourage folks to break outside that format and do whatever works (even "photo of whiteboard" may suffice, here), as long as it meets the goals described therein. -- Leander