From mark at twoshortplanks.com  Sun Mar 25 15:40:43 2012
From: mark at twoshortplanks.com (Mark fowler)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:40:43 +0100
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
Message-ID: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>

Hello!

My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester". 

So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group. 

So,

- The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
- Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local tech groups I might be interested in?
- Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.

Mark 

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From will at coleda.com  Mon Mar 26 05:34:16 2012
From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:34:16 +0100
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
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2012/3/25 Mark fowler <mark at twoshortplanks.com>:
> Hello!
>
> My name's Mark Fowler. ?You might know me as "That guy that used to head up
> London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or
> "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".

Hey, Mark!

> So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me
> is a mere 40min drive away from Albany. ?Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I
> won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought
> it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.


> So,
>
> - The mailing list is a little sparse. ?Do you guys meet up? ?Are you part
> of any other groups? ?(NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)

We are pretty much comatose. We've had 1 or 2 meetings in the past 5
years or so, but that's it. I'd be happy to try to get things moving
again - and now have contact with RPI's "open source" student group,
which might help.

> - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about? ?Other local tech
> groups I might be interested in?

I know the local ColdFusion user's group is going strong.

> - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider? ?I've hooked
> up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything
> more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.

That close to the MA border, I'm not sure; I use Time Warner cable
here, and their low-end service is better than that, but still not
double digits.

> Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm



-- 
Will "Coke" Coleda

From conor.k.todd at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 10:16:14 2012
From: conor.k.todd at gmail.com (Conor Todd)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:16:14 -0400
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
Message-ID: <39BEEF04-A8BB-4E0A-9890-2DECDC6598F5@gmail.com>

Hi Mark!

I joined this list a couple of months ago, and it's been completely quiet.  Which saddens me, given how awesome Perl is.  I think a buddy of mine at Google summed it up well when he, having learned that I love Perl, asked, "Isn't Perl what you do to people you don't like?"  The language is so easy to write that anyone -- even those without a clue -- can cobble something together in it, meaning that there's a lot of really horrible Perl out there.  So, it's sad that Perl gets thrown under the bus simply because many of the WTFs of the early internet used it.

Anyway, upstate NY isn't known for it's technological prowess, but you are relatively close to NYC, Boston, and Buffalo, all of which have active PMs.  There don't seem to be many people using Perl up here; the closest ones are generally financial firms.

As for internet providers, I'm in Albany and I use TimeWarner Cable.  Speedtest says I get 20Mb down and 1.5Mb up, but in practice it's 8-10Mb down and 0.8Mb up.  I'd go with Verizon's FIOS if it were available here, but it seems to have skipped Albany.  But then again, a lot of technology seems to have skipped Albany -- such as networked traffic lights, sidewalks, and bike lanes.

   - Conor

On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Mark fowler wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
> 
> So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
> 
> So,
> 
> - The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local tech groups I might be interested in?
> - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
> 
> Mark
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm

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From will at coleda.com  Mon Mar 26 11:33:56 2012
From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:33:56 +0100
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
Message-ID: <CAKfi5MdxAKkWJ15Bd-=Odea2RHVDKMDYHCQmW6o7SgejG0Qx1g@mail.gmail.com>

2012/3/25 Mark fowler <mark at twoshortplanks.com>:
> Hello!
>
> My name's Mark Fowler. ?You might know me as "That guy that used to head up
> London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or
> "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
>
> So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me
> is a mere 40min drive away from Albany. ?Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I
> won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought
> it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.

If nothing else, let's plan for a social meeting after you get settled.

> So,
>
> - The mailing list is a little sparse. ?Do you guys meet up? ?Are you part
> of any other groups? ?(NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about? ?Other local tech
> groups I might be interested in?
> - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider? ?I've hooked
> up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything
> more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
>
> Mark
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm



-- 
Will "Coke" Coleda

From jkeen at verizon.net  Mon Mar 26 15:25:30 2012
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:25:30 -0400
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1332788404.13103.albany-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.1.1332788404.13103.albany-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <4F70ECDA.3070907@verizon.net>

On 3/26/12 3:00 PM, albany-pm-request at pm.org wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
>
> So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
>
> So,
>
> - The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local tech groups I might be interested in?
> - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
>
> Mark
>

New Lebanon appears to be far enough away from New York City -- in fact, 
far enough away from anywhere -- that the route which Google Maps lays 
out to get there from NYC is probably not the best one!

I've lived in New York State almost all my life but New Lebanon is in a 
corner of the state that I've never been in.

Well, NYC and ny.pm are several hours to the south ... but you know that 
we will always be willing to schedule an Emergency Social meeting on 
your behalf.  And, after nearly a year's lapse, we've resumed holding 
technical meetings, though perhaps not yet on a steady basis.

Jim Keenan

From jerry.ela at troyweb.com  Mon Mar 26 16:28:19 2012
From: jerry.ela at troyweb.com (GERALD ELA)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:28:19 -0400
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
Message-ID: <0C2DDC4A-C991-47F9-B938-DC3919C9FA5B@nycap.rr.com>

There are a number of other tech groups in the "Tech Valley" area.  That's how they are promoting the greater Albany area these days.

Tech Valley Mobile Developers Network.  
Albany New York ColdFusion User Group 
Albany UX Meetup 
Build Guild 
Capital District Java Developers Network 
Capital District WebSphere User Group 
Central New York ColdFusion User Group
CocoaHeads 
International Institute of Business Analysis IIBA 
Tech Valley .NET Users Group 
Tech Valley Ruby Brigade 
Webmasters? Guild 

The mobile group's website is at tvmdn.org and they have links to all the other group's sites.

We also just had a Startup weekend, will have a Bar Camp this Saturday, and will have Techapalooza which is a social event for all the tech groups which will be in Sept.

On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Mark fowler wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
> 
> So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
> 
> So,
> 
> - The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local tech groups I might be interested in?
> - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
> 
> Mark
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm


From rlonstein at pobox.com  Mon Mar 26 17:43:25 2012
From: rlonstein at pobox.com (Ross Lonstein)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:43:25 -0500
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <CAKfi5MdxAKkWJ15Bd-=Odea2RHVDKMDYHCQmW6o7SgejG0Qx1g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
	<CAKfi5MdxAKkWJ15Bd-=Odea2RHVDKMDYHCQmW6o7SgejG0Qx1g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120327004324.GB11590@ohno.mrbill.net>

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 07:33:56PM +0100, Will Coleda wrote:
> 2012/3/25 Mark fowler <mark at twoshortplanks.com>:
> > Hello!
> >
> > My name's Mark Fowler. ?You might know me as "That guy that used to head up
> > London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or
> > "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
> >
> > So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me
> > is a mere 40min drive away from Albany. ?Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I
> > won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought
> > it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
> 
> If nothing else, let's plan for a social meeting after you get settled.
    [snip]

Welcome Mark! 

+1 on the social... still hoping to make it to one up here, Will, I'm
going on five years. :)

- Ross

From conor.k.todd at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 18:09:45 2012
From: conor.k.todd at gmail.com (Conor Todd)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:09:45 -0400
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <0C2DDC4A-C991-47F9-B938-DC3919C9FA5B@nycap.rr.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
	<0C2DDC4A-C991-47F9-B938-DC3919C9FA5B@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAB=G+prB+0sW6GuD33eeM575Ft39pLd3B4S2X9_uJVXEO4a8iw@mail.gmail.com>

It's upsetting how Albany.PM doesn't have a link on the list of area tech
groups.  What could we offer that's of interest to a wider audience?
On Mar 26, 2012 7:38 PM, "GERALD ELA" <jerry.ela at troyweb.com> wrote:

> There are a number of other tech groups in the "Tech Valley" area.  That's
> how they are promoting the greater Albany area these days.
>
> Tech Valley Mobile Developers Network.
> Albany New York ColdFusion User Group
> Albany UX Meetup
> Build Guild
> Capital District Java Developers Network
> Capital District WebSphere User Group
> Central New York ColdFusion User Group
> CocoaHeads
> International Institute of Business Analysis IIBA
> Tech Valley .NET Users Group
> Tech Valley Ruby Brigade
> Webmasters? Guild
>
> The mobile group's website is at tvmdn.org and they have links to all the
> other group's sites.
>
> We also just had a Startup weekend, will have a Bar Camp this Saturday,
> and will have Techapalooza which is a social event for all the tech groups
> which will be in Sept.
>
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Mark fowler wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head
> up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar"
> or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
> >
> > So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures
> me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so
> I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I
> thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
> >
> > So,
> >
> > - The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you
> part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> > - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local
> tech groups I might be interested in?
> > - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've
> hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about
> anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Albany-pm mailing list
> > Albany-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm
>
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From jerry.ela at troyweb.com  Mon Mar 26 19:53:09 2012
From: jerry.ela at troyweb.com (Jerry Ela)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:53:09 -0400
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <CAB=G+prB+0sW6GuD33eeM575Ft39pLd3B4S2X9_uJVXEO4a8iw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
	<0C2DDC4A-C991-47F9-B938-DC3919C9FA5B@nycap.rr.com>
	<CAB=G+prB+0sW6GuD33eeM575Ft39pLd3B4S2X9_uJVXEO4a8iw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <762CDABF-AF85-4220-9B9A-491267603366@troyweb.com>

For the most part the groups on the list meet more or less monthly, but if you've got something for me to link to, I'll add you to the list. 

On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Conor Todd wrote:

> It's upsetting how Albany.PM doesn't have a link on the list of area tech groups.  What could we offer that's of interest to a wider audience?
> 
> On Mar 26, 2012 7:38 PM, "GERALD ELA" <jerry.ela at troyweb.com> wrote:
> There are a number of other tech groups in the "Tech Valley" area.  That's how they are promoting the greater Albany area these days.
> 
> Tech Valley Mobile Developers Network.
> Albany New York ColdFusion User Group
> Albany UX Meetup
> Build Guild
> Capital District Java Developers Network
> Capital District WebSphere User Group
> Central New York ColdFusion User Group
> CocoaHeads
> International Institute of Business Analysis IIBA
> Tech Valley .NET Users Group
> Tech Valley Ruby Brigade
> Webmasters? Guild
> 
> The mobile group's website is at tvmdn.org and they have links to all the other group's sites.
> 
> We also just had a Startup weekend, will have a Bar Camp this Saturday, and will have Techapalooza which is a social event for all the tech groups which will be in Sept.
> 
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Mark fowler wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > My name's Mark Fowler.  You might know me as "That guy that used to head up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar" or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
> >
> > So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany.  Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
> >
> > So,
> >
> > - The mailing list is a little sparse.  Do you guys meet up?  Are you part of any other groups?  (NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
> > - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about?  Other local tech groups I might be interested in?
> > - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider?  I've hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Albany-pm mailing list
> > Albany-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm

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From will at coleda.com  Tue Mar 27 07:18:20 2012
From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:18:20 +0100
Subject: [albany-pm] Hello Albany Perl Mongers
In-Reply-To: <762CDABF-AF85-4220-9B9A-491267603366@troyweb.com>
References: <469B0A80B07F4882A775E77B36AE3310@twoshortplanks.com>
	<0C2DDC4A-C991-47F9-B938-DC3919C9FA5B@nycap.rr.com>
	<CAB=G+prB+0sW6GuD33eeM575Ft39pLd3B4S2X9_uJVXEO4a8iw@mail.gmail.com>
	<762CDABF-AF85-4220-9B9A-491267603366@troyweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAKfi5Md6o_GeJ=aLpWRF7t5T8aP=x8VxUxgXphe8KFnTYZERyQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://albany.pm.org/ has a link to the mailing list, but is otherwise
pretty much dead since the last time I tried to resurrect it.

Anyone who wishes to contribute to the website, clone/watch
https://github.com/coke/Albany.pm - I'll dig up the creds to the svn
repo I have access to and get that wired up - which it looks like I
started 2 years ago and haven't touched since.

If you don't see any progress on it shortly, ping me. Or open a ticket. ;)

2012/3/27 Jerry Ela <jerry.ela at troyweb.com>:
> For the most part the groups on the list meet more or less monthly, but if
> you've got something for me to link to, I'll add you to the list.
>
> On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Conor Todd wrote:
>
> It's upsetting how Albany.PM doesn't have a link on the list of area tech
> groups.? What could we offer that's of interest to a wider audience?
>
> On Mar 26, 2012 7:38 PM, "GERALD ELA" <jerry.ela at troyweb.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are a number of other tech groups in the "Tech Valley" area. ?That's
>> how they are promoting the greater Albany area these days.
>>
>> Tech Valley Mobile Developers Network.
>> Albany New York ColdFusion User Group
>> Albany UX Meetup
>> Build Guild
>> Capital District Java Developers Network
>> Capital District WebSphere User Group
>> Central New York ColdFusion User Group
>> CocoaHeads
>> International Institute of Business Analysis IIBA
>> Tech Valley .NET Users Group
>> Tech Valley Ruby Brigade
>> Webmasters? Guild
>>
>> The mobile group's website is at tvmdn.org and they have links to all the
>> other group's sites.
>>
>> We also just had a Startup weekend, will have a Bar Camp this Saturday,
>> and will have Techapalooza which is a social event for all the tech groups
>> which will be in Sept.
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Mark fowler wrote:
>>
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > My name's Mark Fowler. ?You might know me as "That guy that used to head
>> > up London Perl Mongers" or "The guy that started the Perl Advent Calendar"
>> > or "The guy that wrote Test::Builder::Tester".
>> >
>> > So, I just bought a house in New Lebanon, NY, which google maps assures
>> > me is a mere 40min drive away from Albany. ?Now, I'm pending visa stuff so I
>> > won't be moving into the property for a good few months yet, but I thought
>> > it might be a good idea to check out my local Perl Mongers group.
>> >
>> > So,
>> >
>> > - The mailing list is a little sparse. ?Do you guys meet up? ?Are you
>> > part of any other groups? ?(NYC.pm? Boston.pm?)
>> > - Anything else in the area a Perl geek should know about? ?Other local
>> > tech groups I might be interested in?
>> > - Any advice on what I should be using as a bandwidth provider? ?I've
>> > hooked up Fairpoint giving me 2.5mbps (ish) down, but any idea about about
>> > anything more comparable to the double digit bandwidth I'm used to.
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Albany-pm mailing list
>> > Albany-pm at pm.org
>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Albany-pm mailing list
>> Albany-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Albany-pm mailing list
> Albany-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm



-- 
Will "Coke" Coleda