From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Mon May 3 19:52:14 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] May 10: the Jeff and Geoff show Message-ID: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> hi all so, this coming monday Jeff and I will be making the trip to abe.pm. I'll leave it to Jeff to introduce his talk, but mine will be "Writing Tests with Apache-Test" aka the 45 minute, brief but effective introduction to the Apache-Test framework. anyway, we'll be needing directions. I'll assume that these http://www3.lehigh.edu/about/ludrivingdirs.asp are sufficient, as long as somebody tells me which campus we'll need to get to, and whether 111 of Maginnes Hall (as stated on the wiki) is still the proper place. more detailed directions (parking, etc) once we get to campus greatly appreciated. --Geoff From faber at linuxnj.com Mon May 3 22:33:34 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] May 10: the Jeff and Geoff show In-Reply-To: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> References: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <20040504033334.GC28031@uranus.faber.nom> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:52:14PM -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: > anyway, we'll be needing directions. I'll assume that these > > http://www3.lehigh.edu/about/ludrivingdirs.asp > > are sufficient, as long as somebody tells me which campus we'll need to get > to, and whether 111 of Maginnes Hall (as stated on the wiki) is still the > proper place. more detailed directions (parking, etc) once we get to campus > greatly appreciated. Same here, as I understand the room has changed/moved. -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From jce0 at Lehigh.EDU Mon May 3 23:11:43 2004 From: jce0 at Lehigh.EDU (Jim Eshleman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] May 10: the Jeff and Geoff show In-Reply-To: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> References: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <409717FF.2080401@Lehigh.EDU> Geoffrey Young wrote: > hi all > > so, this coming monday Jeff and I will be making the trip to abe.pm. > > I'll leave it to Jeff to introduce his talk, but mine will be "Writing Tests > with Apache-Test" aka the 45 minute, brief but effective introduction to the > Apache-Test framework. > > anyway, we'll be needing directions. I'll assume that these > > http://www3.lehigh.edu/about/ludrivingdirs.asp > > are sufficient, as long as somebody tells me which campus we'll need to get > to, and whether 111 of Maginnes Hall (as stated on the wiki) is still the > proper place. more detailed directions (parking, etc) once we get to campus > greatly appreciated. > > --Geoff http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/2004-March/000040.html http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/2004-April/000080.html We're at the Asa Packer (main) Campus. As noted in the second reference the new meeting room is directly across from the parking garage. Let us know if you need more/better directions. I'll see about getting the phone # in the meeting room. Jim From jeff at smashing.org Tue May 4 08:58:39 2004 From: jeff at smashing.org (Jeff Horwitz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Re: May 10: the Jeff and Geoff show In-Reply-To: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 May 2004, Geoffrey Young wrote: > I'll leave it to Jeff to introduce his talk, but mine will be "Writing Tests i will be giving two thirds of my talk for YAPC (due to time constraints). i've included the description below. see you all there! -jeff extproc_perl 2.0: Oracle Stored Procedures in Perl extproc_perl enables you to write Oracle stored procedures in Perl, providing another database programming language beyond PL/SQL and Java. Some of its supported features include cross-procedure interpreter persistence, callbacks into the database using DBI, automatic conversion between Oracle and Perl datatypes, and of course, the entire CPAN library of Perl modules. This session covers the new 2.0 version of extproc_perl from soup to nuts: a general overview, installation, configuration, usage, callbacks using DBI, troubleshooting, and plenty of useful examples that you can try on your own databases. From jeff at smashing.org Mon May 10 09:27:21 2004 From: jeff at smashing.org (Jeff Horwitz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? Message-ID: hey guys, i like to do live demos during my talk -- is there internet access in the room we'll be meeting? thanks, -jeff From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon May 10 09:28:46 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040510102846.A16145@manxome.org> * Jeff Horwitz [2004-05-10T10:27:21] > i like to do live demos during my talk -- is there internet access in the > room we'll be meeting? Yup. In fact, if I remember correctly, it's even wireless! -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040510/f730d364/attachment.bin From jeff at smashing.org Mon May 10 09:47:00 2004 From: jeff at smashing.org (Jeff Horwitz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <20040510102846.A16145@manxome.org> Message-ID: excellent -- i love universities. :) On Mon, 10 May 2004, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * Jeff Horwitz [2004-05-10T10:27:21] > > i like to do live demos during my talk -- is there internet access in the > > room we'll be meeting? > > Yup. In fact, if I remember correctly, it's even wireless! > > -- > rjbs > From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon May 10 10:09:35 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> >>Yup. In fact, if I remember correctly, it's even wireless! > excellent -- i love universities. :) Unfortunately, I hear this is going away. :-( Some sort of MS based authentication plan is on its way. I hope they leave some sort of guest account enabled... this could be auto-throttled as needed. prl From sol0 at lehigh.edu Mon May 10 10:19:25 2004 From: sol0 at lehigh.edu (Steve Lidie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> On May 10, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Phil Lawrence wrote: > > >>Yup. In fact, if I remember correctly, it's even wireless! >> excellent -- i love universities. :) > > Unfortunately, I hear this is going away. :-( Some sort of MS based > authentication plan is on its way. AFS authentication - they're synced to Active Directory. It'll be 802.1x/MSChapv2. > > I hope they leave some sort of guest account enabled... this could be > auto-throttled as needed. No, but we have a few test accounts. From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon May 10 10:39:05 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <409FA219.4010804@five-lawrences.com> Steve Lidie wrote: > > On May 10, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Phil Lawrence wrote: > >> I hope they leave some sort of guest account enabled... this could be >> auto-throttled as needed. > > > No, but we have a few test accounts. Well then, with you around, our guests will never lack for access! :-) prl From jce0 at Lehigh.EDU Mon May 10 12:08:10 2004 From: jce0 at Lehigh.EDU (Jim Eshleman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] May 10: the Jeff and Geoff show In-Reply-To: <409717FF.2080401@Lehigh.EDU> References: <4096E93E.9050204@modperlcookbook.org> <409717FF.2080401@Lehigh.EDU> Message-ID: <409FB6FA.1070507@Lehigh.EDU> > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/2004-March/000040.html > > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/2004-April/000080.html > > We're at the Asa Packer (main) Campus. As noted in the second > reference the new meeting room is directly across from the parking > garage. Let us know if you need more/better directions. I'll see about > getting the phone # in the meeting room. Phone # for the meeting room (111 Maginnes) is 610-758-2485. Phil, you do have the room reserved (forever), right? If you're following the directions I gave in the first reference note that sections of 4th Street are under construction, so if you can't get all the way down to New Street you may need to hang a right off of 4th, go down to 3rd, and left onto 3rd. Then proceed to New Street and continue following the directions. I've been told that New Street will remain open... Jim From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon May 10 12:18:22 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <20040510131822.B13530@manxome.org> * Steve Lidie [2004-05-10T11:19:25] > On May 10, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Phil Lawrence wrote: > > > >Unfortunately, I hear this is going away. :-( Some sort of MS based > >authentication plan is on its way. > > AFS authentication - they're synced to Active Directory. It'll be > 802.1x/MSChapv2. Yay: Mac OS can do 802.1x Boo: I am not a Lehigh account holder. Oh well. Maybe I should apply for a LU job. :) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040510/5cce441d/attachment.bin From sol0 at lehigh.edu Mon May 10 12:33:52 2004 From: sol0 at lehigh.edu (Steve Lidie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <20040510131822.B13530@manxome.org> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> <20040510131822.B13530@manxome.org> Message-ID: <3476492D-A2A8-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> On May 10, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * Steve Lidie [2004-05-10T11:19:25] >> On May 10, 2004, at 11:09 AM, Phil Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately, I hear this is going away. :-( Some sort of MS based >>> authentication plan is on its way. >> >> AFS authentication - they're synced to Active Directory. It'll be >> 802.1x/MSChapv2. > Yay: Mac OS can do 802.1x I'm the Macintosh crash test dummy here - it works perfectly, along with Win32. Linux, I do not know... > > Boo: I am not a Lehigh account holder. > > Oh well. Maybe I should apply for a LU job. :) or take a course ;) > > -- > rjbs From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon May 10 12:41:11 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <3476492D-A2A8-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> <20040510131822.B13530@manxome.org> <3476492D-A2A8-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <409FBEB7.5030600@five-lawrences.com> Steve Lidie wrote: > > On May 10, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >> Yay: Mac OS can do 802.1x > > > I'm the Macintosh crash test dummy here - it works perfectly, along with > Win32. Linux, I do not know... Oh that reminds me, the Mac test dummy and I tried to do "real" transparent terminals on his phat 10.3 dual G5 the other day... where do you find the option for this? prl PS - how can we get this list to have Reply-To: abe-pm@mail.pm.org ? From sol0 at lehigh.edu Mon May 10 12:44:58 2004 From: sol0 at lehigh.edu (Steve Lidie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] internet access? In-Reply-To: <409FBEB7.5030600@five-lawrences.com> References: <409F9B2F.4060604@five-lawrences.com> <6C0E8C70-A295-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> <20040510131822.B13530@manxome.org> <3476492D-A2A8-11D8-8243-000A95BA93C6@lehigh.edu> <409FBEB7.5030600@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: On May 10, 2004, at 1:41 PM, Phil Lawrence wrote: > Steve Lidie wrote: >> On May 10, 2004, at 1:18 PM, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >>> Yay: Mac OS can do 802.1x >> I'm the Macintosh crash test dummy here - it works perfectly, along >> with Win32. Linux, I do not know... > > Oh that reminds me, the Mac test dummy and I tried to do "real" > transparent terminals on his phat 10.3 dual G5 the other day... where > do you find the option for this? We think it's gone in Panther. > > prl > > PS - how can we get this list to have Reply-To: abe-pm@mail.pm.org ? Reply-all ;) From jeff at smashing.org Mon May 10 23:47:09 2004 From: jeff at smashing.org (Jeff Horwitz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] keys Message-ID: for those who stuck around tonight, i did find my keys. they were in geoff's car after all -- just had to move the seat up to find them. :) -jeff From phil at five-lawrences.com Tue May 11 07:10:46 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A0C2C6.6010201@five-lawrences.com> Jeff Horwitz wrote: > for those who stuck around tonight, i did find my keys. they were in > geoff's car after all -- just had to move the seat up to find them. :) Good! Glad it worked out. Thanks to both of you for a great time. Those were two solid presentations, and represent an amazing amount of work. Kudos! :-) prl From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Tue May 11 08:19:05 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Apache-Test slides Message-ID: <40A0D2C9.7010807@modperlcookbook.org> hi all thanks for having us out last night. I think a keydrive is on my short list of geek things to aquire :) anyway, as promised, here is a link to my slides: http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/slides/pm/abe/ I was thinking a bit this morning about how I wish I had spent more time explaining the SOAP::Lite magic. not the Apache-Test stuff specifically but, since it came up, exactly how SOAP and SOAP::Lite's autodispatch option works. really, it will make your head start to spin when you make the connection that not only does +autodispatch not require you to use() the module in question, but that the perl module can actually reside on another box entirely. at any rate, see http://www.soaplite.com/ for more. SOAP::Lite rocks :) --Geoff From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Tue May 11 08:33:38 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Apache-Test slides In-Reply-To: <40A0D2C9.7010807@modperlcookbook.org> References: <40A0D2C9.7010807@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <20040511093338.M13530@manxome.org> * Geoffrey Young [2004-05-11T09:19:05] > thanks for having us out last night. I think a keydrive is on my short list > of geek things to aquire :) ...and maybe I should start carrying a CF reader with me again. > anyway, as promised, here is a link to my slides: > http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/slides/pm/abe/ Rad, thanks. My notes, which are barely more than notes on slides, are at http://rjbs.manxome.org/abe.pm/abe-05.ooutline # OmniOutliner http://rjbs.manxome.org/abe.pm/abe-05.txt # plaintext > SOAP::Lite rocks :) Suggested crash-course? POD? The ORA book? Elsewhere? -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040511/b63d3596/attachment.bin From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Tue May 11 08:44:09 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] the geoff and jeff show Message-ID: <20040511094409.N13530@manxome.org> [GJ]eo?ff?: Thanks for coming! Both talks were of the "make me wish I used to code in question" persuasion. I'm going to have to get mod_perl2 installed here at work, I think. Sadly, I think upgrading from Oracle 6i Just Won't Happen. If only your DBA had been griping about MSSQL instead of Oracle! (Of course, I doubt you would've felt as compelled to build sybperl.dll...) Good luck with v1.0 of the talks! ;) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040511/d54e2412/attachment.bin From jce0 at Lehigh.EDU Tue May 11 08:50:04 2004 From: jce0 at Lehigh.EDU (Jim Eshleman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A0DA0C.9050209@Lehigh.EDU> > for those who stuck around tonight, i did find my keys. they were in > geoff's car after all -- just had to move the seat up to find them. :) > > -jeff Good show! Funny how you always find things the first and/or last place you look :-) Thanks Geoff and Jeff for the most excellent presentations! I'm sure they'll be well received at YAPC. You two are naturals. Jim From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Tue May 11 09:02:14 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Apache-Test slides In-Reply-To: <20040511093338.M13530@manxome.org> References: <40A0D2C9.7010807@modperlcookbook.org> <20040511093338.M13530@manxome.org> Message-ID: <40A0DCE6.2010903@modperlcookbook.org> >>SOAP::Lite rocks :) > > > Suggested crash-course? POD? The ORA book? Elsewhere? > the two ORA books are kinda heavy. if you're interested in a quick idea the guide at http://guide.soaplite.com/ is pretty good. the mod_perl cookbook also has a recipe dedicated to it, so you can try that as well http://www.modperlcookbook.org/chapters/15.16.pdf it's a little dated (the java example is much simpler now with Axis) and not terribly in-depth, but maybe that's a good thing :) --Geoff From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon May 17 08:11:39 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] non-member postings Message-ID: <20040517091139.G23850@manxome.org> I've set postings by non-members to reject. I kept getting Nigerian spam to the list, which I rejected by hand. Yuck! -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Otherwise, you'll keep getting shots in the dark! :) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040517/ebf92617/attachment.bin From phil at five-lawrences.com Wed May 19 13:01:43 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] next meeting's topic In-Reply-To: <20040517092139.H23850@manxome.org> References: <20040517092139.H23850@manxome.org> Message-ID: <40ABA107.3080002@five-lawrences.com> Speaking of shots in the dark... While on vacation next week, I plan on writing an LWP spider to grab transactions from my online bank and put them in my local ledger... If that pans out I'll offer to present it at the next meeting. For now, however, anyone with a presentation or expertise in the bag should feel welcome to offer. Phil From phil at five-lawrences.com Wed May 19 13:02:41 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Rides to YAPC Message-ID: <40ABA141.9020100@five-lawrences.com> Anyone need a ride to YAPC? I heard on Philly.pm that rjbs might. Anyone else? prl From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed May 19 13:37:42 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Rides to YAPC In-Reply-To: <40ABA141.9020100@five-lawrences.com> References: <40ABA141.9020100@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040519143742.C27163@manxome.org> * Phil Lawrence [2004-05-19T14:02:41] > Anyone need a ride to YAPC? I heard on Philly.pm that rjbs might. > Anyone else? I wouldn't object. My plan was to take Greyhound, but that's spendy and possibly boring. :) Dare I ask who at Philly was talking about me? bda, I suppose... -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040519/18663e57/attachment.bin From phil at five-lawrences.com Wed May 19 14:08:52 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:50 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Rides to YAPC In-Reply-To: <20040519143742.C27163@manxome.org> References: <40ABA141.9020100@five-lawrences.com> <20040519143742.C27163@manxome.org> Message-ID: <40ABB0C4.6090708@five-lawrences.com> > Dare I ask who at Philly was talking about me? bda, I suppose... Dunno, but it was in a fairly pejorative context... ;-) prl