From faber at linuxnj.com Tue Feb 3 10:25:53 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Anyone here excpet me? Message-ID: <20040203162553.GA5035@uranus.faber.nom> Well? Is there? -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From linc at thelinuxlink.net Tue Feb 3 10:38:13 2004 From: linc at thelinuxlink.net (Linc Fessenden) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Anyone here excpet me? In-Reply-To: <20040203162553.GA5035@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Faber Fedor wrote: > Well? Is there? > > I'm here.. -- -Linc Fessenden In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Tue Feb 3 10:48:05 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] greetings! Message-ID: <20040203114805.D6580@manxome.org> Ahoy! Cool, well, the list is up and running and there are about seven people on it at the moment. I was hoping to have a few more people before talking about any plans, but... Does everyone prefer during the week or on the weekend? I'm not one who has all kinds of weird plans on Fridays and Saturdays, so those are fine with me, but so are weeknights. I'm hoping that the week after Valentine's will be good for a quick first meeting. Thoughts? -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040203/808ec60a/attachment.bin From rhkramer at fast.net Tue Feb 3 02:57:50 2004 From: rhkramer at fast.net (Ruth A. Kramer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Anyone here excpet me? References: <20040203162553.GA5035@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <401F628E.6CC5@fast.net> Faber Fedor wrote: > Well? Is there? Yes. (And I can spell Pearl^H^H^Hrl ;-) Randy Kramer From phil at five-lawrences.com Tue Feb 3 13:23:42 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] greetings! In-Reply-To: <20040203114805.D6580@manxome.org> References: <20040203114805.D6580@manxome.org> Message-ID: <401FF53E.3080600@five-lawrences.com> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > Ahoy! Arrr! Good to be aboard. > seven people... Hands enough to titivate! > Fridays ... Saturdays ... weeknights Me wench'll block spot me fer sure if I go on the account when she has me planned fer port duty! Though methinks I could weigh anchor on Mondays or Thursdays... prl From phil at five-lawrences.com Thu Feb 5 07:55:49 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] greetings! In-Reply-To: <401FF53E.3080600@five-lawrences.com> References: <20040203114805.D6580@manxome.org> <401FF53E.3080600@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <40224B65.6070302@five-lawrences.com> Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > >> Ahoy! > > Arrr! Good to be aboard. Hmmm. Maybe pirate talk wasn't the best way to make a first impression... But Ricardo started it! Anyhow, Monday Nights are best for me, with Thursdays a close Second. :-) prl From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Thu Feb 5 08:06:29 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] meeting date? Message-ID: <20040205090629.K6580@manxome.org> So, with two people talking about meeting dates, I'm not feeling too limited in dates to choose. Would everyone be likely to make a dinner meeting on Thursday, 2004-02-26? Let's say, for the sake of convenience, "Somewhere in Bethlehem." -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040205/4cfa3489/attachment.bin From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 6 15:47:13 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Perl just blows me away... Message-ID: <20040206214713.GA2581@uranus.faber.nom> Check this sh*t out I keep a mileage log in my Palmpilot and it generates a tab-delimited file. Since it's tax time, I have to found out how many business/personal/commuting miles I drove in my two vehicles this year. I just wrote the short script below tp parse the data file. I freaking LOVE how Perl builds the data structure for me! Just four lines of code (in the while loop) and the file is parsed and the mileage in each category for each vehicle is automagically separated and tallied. Sweet! <-----------------------------< cut here >--------------------------> #!/usr/bin/perl -w #-d:ptkdb # use strict; die "Usage: ", $0 =~ /([^\/]+)$/, " \n" unless @ARGV == 1; my ($CARFILE) = @ARGV ; my ($inf, @fields, %cars, $car, $cat) ; open($inf, "< $CARFILE"); while( <$inf> ) { next if m/^Car Start/ ; chomp; # $fields[0] = Car ("Car", "Rav4", etc.) # $fields[3] = mileage # $fields[13] = Category @fields = split(/ /, $_); $cars{$fields[0]}{$fields[13]} += $fields[3]; } foreach $car ( sort keys %cars) { print "Car $car\n"; foreach $cat (sort keys %{ $cars{$car} } ) { print " $cat miles = $cars{$car}{$cat}\n"; } } -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Feb 6 16:17:13 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Perl just blows me away... In-Reply-To: <20040206214713.GA2581@uranus.faber.nom> References: <20040206214713.GA2581@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <40241269.9040705@five-lawrences.com> Faber Fedor wrote: > I just wrote the short script below tp parse the data file. I freaking > LOVE how Perl builds the data structure for me! Yep. I heard someone once say that they like programming in Perl because "Perl fits my mind like a glove." This sort of stuff is wonderfully easy with Perl. > > my ($CARFILE) = @ARGV ; > my ($inf, @fields, %cars, $car, $cat) ; > > open($inf, "< $CARFILE"); > > while( <$inf> ) { Why not (<>)? prl From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 6 16:57:14 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Perl just blows me away... In-Reply-To: <40241269.9040705@five-lawrences.com> References: <20040206214713.GA2581@uranus.faber.nom> <40241269.9040705@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040206225714.GA3238@uranus.faber.nom> On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 05:17:13PM -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Faber Fedor wrote: > >my ($CARFILE) = @ARGV ; > >my ($inf, @fields, %cars, $car, $cat) ; > > > >open($inf, "< $CARFILE"); > > > >while( <$inf> ) { > > Why not (<>)? Because this code is morphed from a previous verson where I passed in _two_ command line parms. I'll eventually go back to two CL parms (I Want to read directly from a Palm .PDB file) so I left tht in. -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From prlawrence at lehigh.edu Wed Feb 11 10:30:36 2004 From: prlawrence at lehigh.edu (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? Message-ID: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> Anyone see why I'm getting this error? (source at bottom) Shouldn't the strings auto-convert to numeric? > date_algo.pl '2000-05-07', '2003-11-26', 10 Argument "07," isn't numeric in subroutine entry at ./date_algo.pl line 13 (#1) (W numeric) The indicated string was fed as an argument to an operator that expected a numeric value instead. If you're fortunate the message will identify which operator was so unfortunate. Argument "26," isn't numeric in subroutine entry at ./date_algo.pl line 13 (#1) begin: 2000-05-07, end: 2003-11-26, per: 10 delta: 1298 intrvl: 130 SOURCE: #!/usr/local/bin/perl use warnings; use diagnostics; use strict; use POSIX; use Date::Calc qw( :all ); my $begin = shift(); my $end = shift(); my $per = shift(); my $delta = Delta_Days( split('-',$begin), split('-',$end) ); my $intrvl = ceil($delta / $per); print "begin: ", $begin, "\n"; print "end: ", $end, "\n"; print "per: ", $per, "\n"; print "delta: ", $delta, "\n"; print "intrvl: ", $intrvl, "\n"; From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Feb 11 12:33:12 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <20040211133312.M4201@manxome.org> * Phil Lawrence [2004-02-11T11:30:36] > Anyone see why I'm getting this error? (source at bottom) Shouldn't > the strings auto-convert to numeric? > > date_algo.pl '2000-05-07', '2003-11-26', 10 I sure do. Why are you putting commas on the command line? You just want "perl date_algo.pl 2000-05-07 2003-11-26 10" I've got a few other suggestions to offer, as regards style, clarity, and good practise. I'd be happy to rant, if you like. :) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040211/70ac6eed/attachment.bin From phil at five-lawrences.com Wed Feb 11 13:13:01 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040211133312.M4201@manxome.org> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211133312.M4201@manxome.org> Message-ID: <402A7EBD.7030308@five-lawrences.com> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * Phil Lawrence [2004-02-11T11:30:36] >> >date_algo.pl '2000-05-07', '2003-11-26', 10 > > I sure do. Why are you putting commas on the command line? Because I'm brain dead. Yep, brain dead. :-/ > I've got a few other suggestions to offer, as regards style, clarity, > and good practise. I'd be happy to rant, if you like. :) Fire away, but I reserve the right to point out this was the start of a throw-away test script. The logic I ended up with is now going into PL/SQL. A good style/idiom discussion might help kickstart the list! Phil From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Feb 11 13:57:24 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> * Phil Lawrence [2004-02-11T11:30:36] > SOURCE: > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > use warnings; > use diagnostics; > use strict; > > use POSIX; > use Date::Calc qw( :all ); This is just a bit of evangelism, but: Do look at using DateTime! It does /everything/, and it has a reasonable interface for all of it. Date::Calc, Time::Date, Date::Parse, Time::Local and so on all address parts of the problem, but they're awkward to use. http://datetime.perl.org/ > my $begin = shift(); > my $end = shift(); > my $per = shift(); Providing defaults would be nice: my $begin = shift || do { print "using default begin"; "2003-01-01" }; You could do some nice validation here, too. $begin = '2003-01-01' unless $begin =~ /^\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}$/; There's probably a Regex::Common for iso dates. > my $delta = Delta_Days( split('-',$begin), split('-',$end) ); > my $intrvl = ceil($delta / $per); > > print "begin: ", $begin, "\n"; > print "end: ", $end, "\n"; > print "per: ", $per, "\n"; > print "delta: ", $delta, "\n"; > print "intrvl: ", $intrvl, "\n"; Prime candidate for a here-doc. print < References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> Message-ID: <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * Phil Lawrence [2004-02-11T11:30:36] >>use Date::Calc qw( :all ); > > This is just a bit of evangelism, but: Do look at using DateTime... > http://datetime.perl.org/ You know, I missed the DateTime talk at YPAC last year, and just never looked into it. Will do! >>my $begin = shift(); >>my $end = shift(); >>my $per = shift(); > > > Providing defaults would be nice: > my $begin = shift || do { print "using default begin"; "2003-01-01" }; > > You could do some nice validation here, too. > $begin = '2003-01-01' unless $begin =~ /^\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}$/; > > There's probably a Regex::Common for iso dates. And, validation would have immediately caught my mistake for me! It's tricky to balance quicky code writing for tests with the danger of overengineering and time wasting. >>print "begin: ", $begin, "\n"; >>print "end: ", $end, "\n"; >>print "per: ", $per, "\n"; >>print "delta: ", $delta, "\n"; >>print "intrvl: ", $intrvl, "\n"; > > > Prime candidate for a here-doc. Hadn't thought of that. Quite right. Reminds me of my favorite personal idiom, for specifying SQL statements in perl: my $sth = $dbh->prepare(<<''); SELECT foo ,bar FROM baz $sth->execute(...); Looks nice with the blank line after the SQL! Phil From faber at linuxnj.com Wed Feb 11 15:27:45 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 04:14:02PM -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > >Prime candidate for a here-doc. > > Hadn't thought of that. Quite right. Reminds me of my favorite > personal idiom, for specifying SQL statements in perl: > > my $sth = $dbh->prepare(<<''); > SELECT foo > ,bar > FROM baz > > $sth->execute(...); > > Looks nice with the blank line after the SQL! That's cute! :-) -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Feb 13 08:10:01 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> I'd love a meeting dedicated to testing... I've heard there are non-painful ways to incorporate the creation of tests into your regular coding, but I know nothing of this. Phil From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 13 08:28:12 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040213142812.GA26999@uranus.faber.nom> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:10:01AM -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > I'd love a meeting dedicated to testing... I'd love to see more stuff on the Test and Test::Harness modules. My current usage is minimal, but they are useful. > I've heard there are non-painful ways to incorporate the creation of > tests into your regular coding, but I know nothing of this. You mean beyond if( undef($filehandle) ) kind of stuff? -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Feb 13 09:06:45 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040213142812.GA26999@uranus.faber.nom> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> <20040213142812.GA26999@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <402CE805.3020405@five-lawrences.com> Faber Fedor wrote: >>I've heard there are non-painful ways to incorporate the creation of >>tests into your regular coding, but I know nothing of this. > > > You mean beyond if( undef($filehandle) ) kind of stuff? Yeah... I mean the sort of test files one would incorporate in a CPAN tgz. Here are the options: - write tests after you write the code - write tests *before* you write the code (supposedly the smart way to do things) - write (embed?) the tests into the code?! It's the third I wondered about, though really I could use soem best-practises education regardign the whole ball o' wax. prl From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Fri Feb 13 10:06:36 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040213110636.W4201@manxome.org> * Phil R Lawrence [2004-02-13T09:10:01] > I'd love a meeting dedicated to testing... > > I've heard there are non-painful ways to incorporate the creation of > tests into your regular coding, but I know nothing of this. I'm assuming that Meeting #0 will be basically social and administrative, figuring out how often we want to meet, what kind of topics we want to deal with, how many people are there more to "learn Perl" than to "learn new Perl things" and so on. After that, I'd be happy to give a tut on Test::* and test-driven development. :) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040213/f8cf86f7/attachment.bin From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 13 10:18:25 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <402CE805.3020405@five-lawrences.com> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> <20040213142812.GA26999@uranus.faber.nom> <402CE805.3020405@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040213161825.GA27467@uranus.faber.nom> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 10:06:45AM -0500, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Faber Fedor wrote: > > > >You mean beyond if( undef($filehandle) ) kind of stuff? > > Yeah... I mean the sort of test files one would incorporate in a CPAN tgz. > > Here are the options: > - write tests after you write the code Been there, done that. > - write tests *before* you write the code > (supposedly the smart way to do things) I *love* doing this. It's really made a difference in the quality of my code, not that it was that great to begin with, but still... > - write (embed?) the tests into the code?! Do you have any references to this? -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 13 10:19:56 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040213110636.W4201@manxome.org> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> <20040213110636.W4201@manxome.org> Message-ID: <20040213161956.GB27467@uranus.faber.nom> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:06:36AM -0500, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > > I'm assuming that Meeting #0 will be basically social and > administrative, figuring out how often we want to meet, what kind of > topics we want to deal with, how many people are there more to "learn > Perl" than to "learn new Perl things" and so on. For those of us not paying attention, when and where is the Meeting #0 again? > After that, I'd be happy to give a tut on Test::* and test-driven > development. :) And there's our topic for Meeting #1! :-) -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Fri Feb 13 10:42:29 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040213161956.GB27467@uranus.faber.nom> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> <20040213110636.W4201@manxome.org> <20040213161956.GB27467@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <20040213114229.A14101@manxome.org> * Faber Fedor [2004-02-13T11:19:56] > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:06:36AM -0500, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > > I'm assuming that Meeting #0 will be basically social and > > administrative, figuring out how often we want to meet, what kind of > > topics we want to deal with, how many people are there more to "learn > > Perl" than to "learn new Perl things" and so on. > > For those of us not paying attention, when and where is the Meeting #0 > again? Assuming there's some more response, 2004-02-26 Thursday evening. Say, 18:00? At a place in Bethlehem that serves food. Say, Brew Works? I'm open to suggestions or objections. I haven't heard much of anything yet, though! -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040213/66aa2d12/attachment.bin From faber at linuxnj.com Fri Feb 13 10:52:35 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] arg isn't numeric? In-Reply-To: <20040213114229.A14101@manxome.org> References: <402A58AC.6070802@lehigh.edu> <20040211145724.O4201@manxome.org> <402A9B1A.8040902@five-lawrences.com> <20040211212745.GA15567@uranus.faber.nom> <402CDAB9.2020106@five-lawrences.com> <20040213110636.W4201@manxome.org> <20040213161956.GB27467@uranus.faber.nom> <20040213114229.A14101@manxome.org> Message-ID: <20040213165235.GB27643@uranus.faber.nom> On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 11:42:29AM -0500, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * Faber Fedor [2004-02-13T11:19:56] > > For those of us not paying attention, when and where is the Meeting #0 > > again? > > Assuming there's some more response, 2004-02-26 Thursday evening. Say, > 18:00? At a place in Bethlehem that serves food. Say, Brew Works? Sounds like a place with good beer. Works for me! Where is it? Remember, I'm coming from Joisey and I don't know Easton. -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Tue Feb 17 15:46:55 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Wiki Message-ID: <20040217164655.E16632@manxome.org> I had hoped to get the request for abe.pm.org redirection through, but I'm sick of waiting. http://abe-pm.manxome.org/wiki/ Enjoy. -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040217/d40497c0/attachment.bin From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Mon Feb 23 13:48:20 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] tech talks? Message-ID: <403A5904.60408@modperlcookbook.org> hi all while I'm not from the allentown area, I'm a philadelphia local and would be happy to take the trip up your way and give a talk. the ones I am "touring" with now are o Why mod_perl 2.0 Sucks, why mod_perl 2.0 Rocks o Writing Tests with Apache-Test I've given a few others over the past few years, including a brief introduction to mod_perl. each talk is about an hour. depending on the experience/desires of the (still forming) group I can do whatever you like (including none at all :) all my talks can be found on my homepage, though I'd suggest not looking at "modperl rocks" if you're interested in hearing that one, as the talk is somewhat tongue-in-cheek and the slides contain spoilers :) anyway, being close I thought I'd offer. --Geoff http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/ From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon Feb 23 14:58:58 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] tech talks? In-Reply-To: <403A5904.60408@modperlcookbook.org> References: <403A5904.60408@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <403A6992.9090608@five-lawrences.com> Geoffrey Young wrote: > hi all > > while I'm not from the allentown area, I'm a philadelphia local and would be > happy to take the trip up your way and give a talk. Thanks, Geoff. I am certainly hoping to drag you Philly.pm guys up here now and then. I think we're meeting this Thurs. (still on?) to start to organize ourselves. I'm interested in testing; maybe your apache testing talk would go well after we run a general testing tutorial. prl From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Mon Feb 23 17:07:16 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] tech talks? In-Reply-To: <403A6992.9090608@five-lawrences.com> References: <403A5904.60408@modperlcookbook.org> <403A6992.9090608@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <403A87A4.2010402@modperlcookbook.org> Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Geoffrey Young wrote: > >> hi all >> >> while I'm not from the allentown area, I'm a philadelphia local and >> would be >> happy to take the trip up your way and give a talk. > > > Thanks, Geoff. I am certainly hoping to drag you Philly.pm guys up here > now and then. > > I think we're meeting this Thurs. (still on?) to start to organize > ourselves. I'm interested in testing; maybe your apache testing talk > would go well after we run a general testing tutorial. cool, whatever you guys want is fine with me. just know that you can give me a holler whenever things get sorted out. --Geoff From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon Feb 23 17:50:09 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Thursday Message-ID: <20040223185009.I4059@manxome.org> Phil asked, elsewhere, if we were still on. I sure am. I figure that if I show up, and no one else does, I still get beer and nachos. If only one other person shows up, the same applies, but now I won't look at pathetic. Attendance beyond that is just sugar. :) It'd be cool if anyone who plans on going could note that on the wiki, just so we have an idea. If Phil and I show up, think we're alone, and get a small table, it'll be weird when five more people show up later. On only slightly-related news, anyone see our mention on http://use.perl.org ? I don't think that's likely to call any secret Perl coders out of the woodwork, but it's something! -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I sure am. I figure that > if I show up, and no one else does, I still get beer and nachos. Does that mean you're buying? :-) > only one other person shows up, the same applies, but now I won't look > at pathetic. Attendance beyond that is just sugar. :) It's been a long time since anyone's called me "sugar". > It'd be cool if anyone who plans on going could note that on the wiki, Got an URL for that (yeah, I could look it up, but I'm lazy (always a good attribute for a Perl monger ;-). -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon Feb 23 20:52:36 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:48 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Thursday In-Reply-To: <20040224023208.GD27742@uranus.faber.nom> References: <20040223185009.I4059@manxome.org> <20040224023208.GD27742@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <20040223215236.K4059@manxome.org> * Faber Fedor [2004-02-23T21:32:08] > > It'd be cool if anyone who plans on going could note that on the wiki, > > Got an URL for that (yeah, I could look it up, but I'm lazy (always a > good attribute for a Perl monger ;-). http://abe.pm.org/wiki More specifically: http://abe.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?MeetingSchedule -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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