From gburger at mweb.co.za  Wed Jun  1 03:48:33 2005
From: gburger at mweb.co.za (Gert Burger)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:48:33 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] List alive?
Message-ID: <1117622913.17439.1.camel@localhost>

Is this list still alive?
-- 
Gert Burger <gburger at mweb.co.za>


From wkruse at sars.gov.za  Wed Jun  1 06:39:41 2005
From: wkruse at sars.gov.za (Walter Kruse)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:39:41 +0200 
Subject: [Za-pm] List alive?
Message-ID: <373AA889F642934D8983245F7A514588D95992@gaptarcbnt00002.sars.prod>


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From tvilliers at Lastminute.com  Wed Jun  1 06:45:04 2005
From: tvilliers at Lastminute.com (Tielman De Villiers)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:45:04 +0100
Subject: [Za-pm] List alive?
Message-ID: <016F0AD55E0CD143A2032456E6DA2C0A01385C41@LMNUKMXV01.corp.lastminute.com>



-----Original Message-----
From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org]On Behalf Of Walter
Kruse
Sent: 01 June 2005 14:40
To: za-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?


---- I am here, but it's very quiet. 



dead quiet.



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From fouri_s at mtn.co.za  Wed Jun  1 07:19:26 2005
From: fouri_s at mtn.co.za (Samuel Fourie [ MTN - Innovation Centre ])
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:19:26 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Scripting
Message-ID: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za>

hi

can anyone please help me ... i need to rewrite these info 

id 10
bbb 20
ccc 
ddd 1
eee 2

id 11
bbb 20
ccc 1
ddd 1
eee 2

id 12
bbb 20
ccc 
ddd 1
eee 2

in this form 

id 10,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
id 11,bbb 20,cc 1,ddd 1,eee 2
id 12,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2

with a script 

regards

spee






 

-----Original Message-----
From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Tielman De Villiers
Sent: Wednesday, 01 June 2005 3:45 PM
To: za-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?



-----Original Message-----
From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org]On Behalf Of
Walter Kruse
Sent: 01 June 2005 14:40
To: za-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?


---- I am here, but it's very quiet. 



dead quiet.



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From pgp at consys.co.za  Wed Jun  1 12:42:17 2005
From: pgp at consys.co.za (Piet le Roux)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:42:17 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Scripting
In-Reply-To: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za>
References: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za>
Message-ID: <200506012142.17384.pgp@consys.co.za>

One of the ways:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;

while (<>) {
  chomp;
  if (/^$/) {
    print "\n";
  } else {
    print "$_,";
  }
}

On Wednesday 01 June 2005 16:19, Samuel Fourie [ MTN - Innovation Centre ] 
wrote:
> d 10
> bbb 20

From jason at dart.co.za  Wed Jun  1 12:56:59 2005
From: jason at dart.co.za (Jason Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:56:59 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Scripting
Message-ID: <20050601195659.GB16153@riverdrums.com>

[ Samuel Fourie : Jun  1 16:21 ]

> id 10,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
> id 11,bbb 20,cc 1,ddd 1,eee 2
> id 12,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;
use warnings;

open FILE, "<help.txt" or die "$!\n";
my $flag = 0;
map {
  chomp;
  print ( (($flag++ and $_) ? "," : "") . ($_ ? $_ : "\n") );
  $flag = 0 unless $_;
} <FILE>;
close FILE;

--
Jason Armstrong

From spikeh at mweb.co.za  Wed Jun  1 22:30:14 2005
From: spikeh at mweb.co.za (Spike)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 07:30:14 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Scripting
In-Reply-To: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za
 >
References: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050602072511.02846a80@pop3.mweb.co.za>

#!/bin/perl -w

$/ = '';   # set the record delimiter to a paragraph

while (<>) # or (<FILE>) if you opened one
{
         chomp;
          s/\n/,/g;
         print "$_\n";
}


__END__
expected:-
id 10,bbb 20,ccc,ddd 1,eee 2
id 11,bbb 20,ccc 1,ddd 1,eee 2



At 2005/06/01 16:19, Samuel Fourie [ MTN - Innovation Centre ] wrote:
>hi
>
>can anyone please help me ... i need to rewrite these info
>
>id 10
>bbb 20
>ccc
>ddd 1
>eee 2
>
>id 11
>bbb 20
>ccc 1
>ddd 1
>eee 2
>
>id 12
>bbb 20
>ccc
>ddd 1
>eee 2
>
>in this form
>
>id 10,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
>id 11,bbb 20,cc 1,ddd 1,eee 2
>id 12,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
>
>with a script
>
>regards
>
>spee
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of
>Tielman De Villiers
>Sent: Wednesday, 01 June 2005 3:45 PM
>To: za-pm at pm.org
>Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org]On Behalf Of
>Walter Kruse
>Sent: 01 June 2005 14:40
>To: za-pm at pm.org
>Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?
>
>
>---- I am here, but it's very quiet.
>
>
>
>dead quiet.
>
>
>
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From spikeh at mweb.co.za  Wed Jun  1 23:40:22 2005
From: spikeh at mweb.co.za (Spike)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:40:22 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Scripting
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050602072511.02846a80@pop3.mweb.co.za>
References: <54461D0825E5E44188349F4D8F3518A8010874B9@MTNMAIL.mtn.co.za>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20050602072511.02846a80@pop3.mweb.co.za>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050602083901.028a8b38@pop3.mweb.co.za>


Interesting - we have had (so far) three totally different solutions to the 
same problem! - cool stuff perl.




At 2005/06/02 07:30, Spike wrote:
>#!/bin/perl -w
>
>$/ = '';   # set the record delimiter to a paragraph
>
>while (<>) # or (<FILE>) if you opened one
>{
>         chomp;
>          s/\n/,/g;
>         print "$_\n";
>}
>
>
>__END__
>expected:-
>id 10,bbb 20,ccc,ddd 1,eee 2
>id 11,bbb 20,ccc 1,ddd 1,eee 2
>
>
>
>At 2005/06/01 16:19, Samuel Fourie [ MTN - Innovation Centre ] wrote:
>>hi
>>
>>can anyone please help me ... i need to rewrite these info
>>
>>id 10
>>bbb 20
>>ccc
>>ddd 1
>>eee 2
>>
>>id 11
>>bbb 20
>>ccc 1
>>ddd 1
>>eee 2
>>
>>id 12
>>bbb 20
>>ccc
>>ddd 1
>>eee 2
>>
>>in this form
>>
>>id 10,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
>>id 11,bbb 20,cc 1,ddd 1,eee 2
>>id 12,bbb 20,cc ,ddd 1,eee 2
>>
>>with a script
>>
>>regards
>>
>>spee
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [ mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of
>>Tielman De Villiers
>>Sent: Wednesday, 01 June 2005 3:45 PM
>>To: za-pm at pm.org
>>Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: za-pm-bounces at pm.org [ mailto:za-pm-bounces at pm.org]On Behalf Of
>>Walter Kruse
>>Sent: 01 June 2005 14:40
>>To: za-pm at pm.org
>>Subject: Re: [Za-pm] List alive?
>>
>>
>>---- I am here, but it's very quiet.
>>
>>
>>
>>dead quiet.
>>
>>
>>
>>**********************************************************************
>>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
>>system manager.
>>
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From oskar at qualica.com  Tue Jun  7 08:22:25 2005
From: oskar at qualica.com (Oskar Pearson)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:22:25 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Senior Perl Developer Requirement
Message-ID: <42A5BBB1.6090205@qualica.com>

Hi

We, Qualica, are looking for a perl developer.

(Please excuse cross-posts to any other lists you are on.)

For more information on us, see www.qualica.com, or drop me a mail.

Please submit CVs etc to hr at qualica.com.

Thanks,

Oskar


Senior Perl Developer
=====================

Description
-----------
Work on the design, development and implementation of a variety of
mod_perl web-based projects within a small project team.


Required Skills
---------------

1. Perl (5+ years experience)

   - Excellent Perl skills (OO, DBI, CPAN, XS)
   - Experience on Linux/UNIX platforms

2. Database (3+ years experience)

   - Excellent working knowledge of SQL
   - Working knowledge of RDBMS (Sybase 11.x/12.x, MS SQL Server 7/2000,
     PostgreSQL 7.x)
   - Experience on Linux/UNIX platforms
   - Beneficial to have good design, stored procedure and performance
     tuning skills

3. Web Development (3+ years experience)

   - Good knowledge of HTML, DHTML
   - Good Javascript/ECMAScript skills (Procedural and OO)
   - Experience with Apache and mod_perl
   - Experience on Linux/UNIX platforms

4. Design Methodologies (1+ years experience)

   - Working knowledge of UML
   - Ability to work from Technical Design Specifications
   - Ability to adhere to design and coding standards


Beneficial Skills
-----------------

1. CVS/Subversion - working knowledge
2. XML, SAX, XSLT skills
3. C/C++, Java - working knowledge


From scarte at pan.uzulu.ac.za  Tue Jun  7 23:13:04 2005
From: scarte at pan.uzulu.ac.za (Sean Carte)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:13:04 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Catalyst: A Perl MVC Framework
Message-ID: <1118211184.7344.5.camel@uzltsp01>

This article at <http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/06/02/catalyst.html> may
be of interest to list-members:

Catalyst
by Jesse Sheidlower
June 02, 2005

...

Catalyst is a new MVC framework for Perl. It is currently under rapid
development, but the core API is now stable, and a growing number of
projects use it. Catalyst borrows from other frameworks, such as Ruby on
Rails and Apache Struts, but its main goal is to be a flexible,
powerful, and fast framework for developing any type of web project in
Perl. This article, the first of a series of two, introduces Catalyst
and shows a simple application; a later article will demonstrate how to
write a more complex project.

...
-- 
Sean Carte <scarte at pan.uzulu.ac.za>
University of Zululand

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NOTICE: Please note that this e-mail, and the contents
thereof, is subject to the standard University of
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From spikeh at mweb.co.za  Fri Jun 10 05:56:36 2005
From: spikeh at mweb.co.za (Spike)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:56:36 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] sub name in a special var?
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050610144627.028c6af8@pop3.mweb.co.za>

Hi All
Is there a special var that holds, or a function that returns the name of 
the current subroutine in the came way that $0 holds the script name or 
caller() returns the calling package?

I am writing a load of subs that do various things to tables on a database. 
I will use the tablename as the sub name so that I don't get too lost and 
it would save a lot of code alterations if the selects, inserts and all the 
other things each sub will do could dynamically get the table name from the 
sub name.

Each sub will do slightly different stuff so I can't use one sub and loop 
through the tablenames but they do have similarities that could be coded 
with a $subname instead of 'MY_TABLE"


From jkeen at verizon.net  Fri Jun 10 17:06:39 2005
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James Keenan)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:06:39 -0400
Subject: [Za-pm] sub name in a special var?
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050610144627.028c6af8@pop3.mweb.co.za>
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050610144627.028c6af8@pop3.mweb.co.za>
Message-ID: <1fc9e61927d68445d512a1a77a4ae102@verizon.net>


On Jun 10, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Spike wrote:

> Hi All
> Is there a special var that holds, or a function that returns the name 
> of
> the current subroutine in the came way that $0 holds the script name or
> caller() returns the calling package?
>
>

Yes, it's called ... caller!

 From perldoc -f caller

        caller EXPR
        [snip]
                With EXPR, it returns some extra information that the 
debugger
                uses to print a stack trace.  The value of EXPR 
indicates how
                many call frames to go back before the current one.

                    ($package, $filename, $line, $subroutine, $hasargs,
                    $wantarray, $evaltext, $is_require, $hints, 
$bitmask) = caller($i);

So, is there some reason why element[3] in the above list won't work 
for you?

Jim Keenan




From jan at henkins.za.net  Mon Jun 20 08:30:22 2005
From: jan at henkins.za.net (Jan Henkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:30:22 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] Working with Berkeley DB - a few questions
Message-ID: <1119281422.18181.35.camel@slashbat.henkins.za.net>

Hello people,

Only recently I started to muck about with Perl in a real programming
sense, other than writing the odd script to help me with my sysadmin
stuff on various Linux/Unix/Win32 machines and servers. So, working with
databases is a new thing to me. The power and elegance of the DBI
methods is astounding! You can imagine me giggling like a schoolgirl
after I realised that I can update a CSV file (never mind a proper MySQL
or PostgreSQL table) with SQL statements. The DBI tools helped me to
build quite a nice system in terms of storing various configuration
items in a database, be it a proper SQL engine or a common CSV file.

Now, my next foray into databases is DBM, specifically Berkeley DB.
Reason being that it is used as a config database for an Internet Cafe
system (OpenKiosk, see http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/), and I would
like to pull data from these files in order to unify reporting. It's so
different from SQL databases that I actually have a few problems getting
my flat head around the "key=value" concept used in DBM files. 

OK, enough background noise, here is what I've got. I've managed to
start getting some data out of a set of DBM-formatted files. What threw
me for a loop is that they are formatted as Btree, not Hash or any other
way. So, I managed to tap together the following script after wading
through a lot if new, weird (for me at least) information in the
BerkeleyDB module (just do a "perldoc BerkeleyDB" once you've installed
the module to see what I mean):

---start---
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Filename: bdbmfile.pl
#
use BerkeleyDB;
use Fcntl;

die "Usage\n$0 dbmfile.pl\n" if (@ARGV < 1);

my $filename = $ARGV [0];
print "Dumping $filename:\n\n";

my %h;
tie %h, 'BerkeleyDB::Btree',
        -Filename       => $filename,
        -Flags          => DB_RDONLY
or die "Cannot open $filename $!\n";

foreach (keys %h)
        {
                print "$_\n"
        }

untie %h;
exit;
---end---

Rightyho, there aren't any original thinking behind this script, it's a
conglomeration of cryptic clues and almost useless examples I bumped
into in my "quest for info". Amazing how bad the docs are for Berkeley
DB in comparison with other DB methods (like Gnu DB). 

On to my question:

The above script only yanks out and display one set of key values. I
have no proper idea (other than horseing around in the CPP source code
of the Icafe application) of what keys are being used, or how many
different keys are used. How is it possible to leech all different keys
out of the db file and then to do a simple, formatted dump of all the
"key=value" pairs without knowing the internal structure of the db file?
At least I know that it's Btree formatted by using the "file" command on
it like this:

---start---
jan at slashbat dataset $ file access.db
access.db: Berkeley DB (Btree, version 9, native byte-order)
---end---

I attach the db file (called access.db, a small 8k file) to this mail,
hoping that it will stay attached to the body. If not, I can mail it
directly to whomever might be interested, or make it available via
FTP/HTTP somewhere. If you do manage to get this file with this mail and
run the above script against it (with the BerkeleyDB module installed of
course), you should see output like this:

---start---
jan at slashbat dataset $ ./bdbmfile.pl access.db
Dumping access.db:

0235696792
1006372727
1352929303
1391212861
1416430778
...
...
---end---

Each of these numbers are session keys used by OpenKiosk to identify a
client session. Now, attached to each session key are a whole host of
other info like (1) has it been used, (2) for how long is the session
valid, (3) how much does it cost, (4) which operator sold this session
to a client, etc. etc.

Any help, thoughts, ideas and even illuminating flames would be very
much appreciated! :-)

-- 
Regards,
Jan Henkins
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From dirkvanderwalt at webmail.co.za  Thu Jun 30 04:51:57 2005
From: dirkvanderwalt at webmail.co.za (DIRK KONRAD)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:51:57 +0200
Subject: [Za-pm] perl on the GUI
Message-ID: <web-1149820@cgp6.sentechsa.net>

Hi list,

For those who might be interested, here is an application
which I wrote using the perl-Gtk2 bindings.

http://forgeftp.novell.com//exam/homepage/index.html

http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/project/?exam

Regards
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