<div dir="ltr"><div>Whining is so unbecoming of the Perl community. Delete the emails you're not interested in and if you are still unhappy, use the link that is at the bottom of every email and unsubscribe yourself? Unsubscribe me emails are just like spam to me, I just delete them. No big deal.Who would buy mail order coffee anyway? How ridiculous. IMHO<br>
<br></div>I'm also a first time YAPC attender. I thought it was fantastic. It really made me sad when it ended, though it is time to get back to work. YAPC and the Texas Linux Fest of the weekend preceding made it a week to remember. Thanks to the organizers, the speakers, and the volunteers for doing such a fantastic job! <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Christopher Millard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cmillard@athenahealth.com" target="_blank">cmillard@athenahealth.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:14 PM<br>
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