arrival dinner idea

[Mike South]

tl;dr  There Is More Than One Way To Dinner

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Ya'akov Sloman via yapc <yapc at pm.org>
wrote:

> For many years I have attended the arrival dinner even if I could only
> sometimes eat some of the food on offer. It's a social event, but it's not
> a plenary. Dave's alternative offers another choice, and yet others could
> be organized (as Abigail points out).
>
> I think perhaps the idea of "anti" is outdated. One of the salient
> features of the Perl community (shared by many other "communities") is that
> there are many affinity groups of varying sizes all in orbit around Perl,
> and sharing that as a cohesive force.  Plenary events are nice, but
> universality isn't an organic sort of thing.  Having many different options
> that can be comfortable events for the different sorts of people is good.
>
> Dave's event is organized (largely) on dietary principles. Other events
> could have other organizing principles if people feel drawn to them.
>
> In the end, not everyone "arrives" in time for the "Arrival Dinner", and
> not everyone choosing to join the "anti-Arrival Dinner" is dissenting.  I
> will be with Dave this year, but it's not because I am against Uri's event;
> a genuine YAPC tradition.  All sincere expressions of community should be
> welcome and, from my perspective most certainly are something I will
> advocate for; even if I don't participate.
>
> Let's focus on the commonality, not the differences — that's actually the
> sustaining strength of YAPC, a community conference.
>
> I LOVE YOU ALL WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE,
> Ya'akov
>
> > On May 19, 2015, at 12:07, Abigail via yapc <yapc at pm.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 05:33:53PM +0200, Sawyer X via yapc wrote:
> >> +1 to that.
> >>
> >> That's actually why I won't go to the Arrival Dinner in the first place.
> >> Having a wide range of people for the Arrival Dinner (literally
> anyone), I
> >> would have hoped people would opt for a place that accommodates as many
> >> people as possible while a grill place accommodates only some.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yeah, well, we've had an arrival dinner for years (2003 was the first
> > one, IIRC). Most (all?) have been organized by Uri, and while there
> > have always been complaints, not many have stepped up and organized
> > an alternative -- Dave being the most notable exception.
> >
> > I'd say the people that actually step up and organize an (Anti-)*Arrival
> > dinner get to pick the place. Don't like the location? Don't go. Know
> > about an awesome alternative? Pick up the phone, reserve some space
> > and announce your alternative on the Wiki/mailinglist.
> >
> > I'm not going to YAPC for its awesome food options -- I'm there to
> > meet up with people. That's why I also go to the Arrival dinner, for
> > the people, not the food.
> >
> > Having said that, a Mongolian BBQ probably accomodates more people than
> > many alternatives, as it gives you a wide range of food items to select
> > from. But most != everyone; giving the herd of cats Perl people are,
> > I doubt there exits a place that will accommodate every one.
> >
> >
> > Abigail
> >
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