From scott at slowass.net Wed Jul 9 10:19:57 2014 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 13:19:57 -0400 Subject: Status on the "Perl needs a CMS" KickStarter to create demand and jobs I launched at Lightning Talks Message-ID: Hi all, I announced a project and associated KickStarter at YAPC::NA to create visibility for Perl and create Perl jobs by directly attacking WordPress with a popular CMS used by major .edu, .gov, and .coms. http://donor.com built their platform on top of this CMS. They've helped non-profits raise over six billion dollars. http://globalnoc.iu.edu/ and http://www.law.umn.edu/ are built on it (view the source!). http://usembassy.gov is built on it. So is http://america.gov. Yup. America runs WebGUI. Choke on that one =) If we want Perl to matter, we have to co-brand with applications written in Perl. We have to take credit for making this possible, and we have to vacuum people from these application communities into the larger Perl community. And right now, CMSes as a platform for developing sites is huge. It's way larger than any framework. wordpress.com is more trafficed than php.net! But there's a major problem. Version 8 of this platform, which moves it to Moose and Plack, is completely stalled. The open source paid support model is rough, and paying customers are only interested in the legacy/stable version. No forward development makes this look dead, which keeps people from adopting it. Out dated themes and a difficult install process also prevent widespread adoption. Here's PlainBlack's statement on stopping development on version 8: http://www.webgui.org/etcetera/is-webgui-dead- The hugely popular CMS written in Perl will die without your help. This needs to be bootstrapped into a community development effort. There are some volunteers, but a lot of this, no one is willing to touch. The only way this is going to happen is if someone already involved in the project who knows it well can take six months to hone it, organize developers, work with the vendor, make it look good, and fix bugs holding 8 in alpha status. I'm volunteering for this job. Your contribution to the KickStarter makes this possible. Users of the platform are rabidly loyal and swear it's the best: https://twitter.com/scrottie/status/486659745751642112/photo/1 Response to the KickStarter has been good, and people like our beloved keynote speaker SawyerX have spoken up for it: https://mobile.twitter.com/PerlSawyer/status/483393622331506690 ... but to make this happen, I need all of you behind it, even if for just $5. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2083389021/create-perl-competition-to-the-php-content-managem http://twitter.com/scrottie and http://blogs.perl.org/users/scott_walters2/ for updates and more info. Thank you for your generous support! (I'll keep posts here to an absolutely minimum so pledge now if you're going to!) Cheers, -scott From vanstyn at cpan.org Sat Jul 26 14:03:39 2014 From: vanstyn at cpan.org (Henry Van Styn) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:03:39 -0400 Subject: Make Perl #1 on git.io/top Message-ID: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> I don?t normally send out messages like this, but I think this is worthwhile, because it is a simple way we can promote our beloved Perl to the larger OSS world, even if just a little? I came across our very own Kent Fredric?s GitHub profile today and did a double-take when I read his contrib stats: https://github.com/kentfredric # "Year of contributions - 21,996 total? Without even speculating by what kind of dedication/witchcraft this number is even possible, it made me curious about stats in general for GitHub, and some googling turned up this page: http://git.io/top This is a report of the ?Most Active? 256 GitHub users. Well, not quite? The current number 1 on the list has HALF the contribs (kevinsawicki at ?11,430?). kentfredric doesn?t show up because of this second caveat: "Only first 1000 GitHub users according to the count of followers are taken. This is because of limitations of GitHub search.? So, it seems all we need to do is have a few hundred people follow kentfredric (based on followers counts of others who did make the list) and the next time this report is generated, Kent, and thus Perl, will take over the number 1 slot ? and by a commanding margin (as it should be) ? and dethroning JavaScript. Currently, Perl is very poorly represented, with just a handful of our luminaries showing up (with the first not coming until #40). I?m not sure how important this report/page actually is, but, I figure, why not if it is this easy! kentnl has already quietly done the hard part by somehow managing to average over **60** GitHub contributions per day, every day, for at least the past 365 days. All we have to do it make 2 clicks of the mouse, and tell our coworkers to do the same. It seems like we can make this happen in a blink of an eye? kentfredric++ - vanstyn Henry Van Styn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ingy at ingy.net Sat Jul 26 20:24:35 2014 From: ingy at ingy.net (Ingy dot Net) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:24:35 -0700 Subject: Make Perl #1 on git.io/top In-Reply-To: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> References: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> Message-ID: Using the git-hub commandline Git command for GitHub ( https://github.com/ingydotnet/git-hub#readme ) I was able to find out how many followers each of these leaders have: https://gist.github.com/ingydotnet/00083efb975c3e51f208 It looks like 288 is lowest number of followers, so we should be able to get Kent there easily. (He's at 54 now -- `git hub user kentfredric`). Cheers, Ingy On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Henry Van Styn via yapc wrote: > I don?t normally send out messages like this, but I think this is > worthwhile, because it is a simple way we can promote our beloved Perl to > the larger OSS world, even if just a little? > > I came across our very own Kent Fredric?s GitHub profile today and did a > double-take when I read his contrib stats: > > https://github.com/kentfredric # "Year of contributions - > 21,996 total? > > Without even speculating by what kind of dedication/witchcraft this number > is even possible, it made me curious about stats in general for GitHub, and > some googling turned up this page: > > http://git.io/top > > This is a report of the ?Most Active? 256 GitHub users. Well, not quite? > The current number 1 on the list has HALF the contribs (kevinsawicki at > ?11,430?). kentfredric doesn?t show up because of this second caveat: "Only > first 1000 GitHub users according to the count of followers are taken. This > is because of limitations of GitHub search.? > > So, it seems all we need to do is have a few hundred people follow > kentfredric (based on followers counts of others who did make the list) and > the next time this report is generated, Kent, and thus Perl, will take over > the number 1 slot ? and by a commanding margin (as it should be) ? and > dethroning JavaScript. > > Currently, Perl is very poorly represented, with just a handful of our > luminaries showing up (with the first not coming until #40). > > I?m not sure how important this report/page actually is, but, I figure, > why not if it is this easy! kentnl has already quietly done the hard part > by somehow managing to average over **60** GitHub contributions per day, > every day, for at least the past 365 days. All we have to do it make 2 > clicks of the mouse, and tell our coworkers to do the same. It seems like > we can make this happen in a blink of an eye? > > kentfredric++ > > > - vanstyn > > Henry Van Styn > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From faelin.landy at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 21:16:28 2014 From: faelin.landy at gmail.com (Faelin McCaley Landy) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:16:28 -0400 Subject: Make Perl #1 on git.io/top In-Reply-To: References: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> Message-ID: This sounds like a very worthwhile endeavors. As of now, Kents_Backers++ (now maybe I'll actually start using Git xD) On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Ingy dot Net via yapc wrote: > Using the git-hub commandline Git command for GitHub ( > https://github.com/ingydotnet/git-hub#readme ) I was able to find out how > many followers each of these leaders have: > https://gist.github.com/ingydotnet/00083efb975c3e51f208 > > It looks like 288 is lowest number of followers, so we should be able to > get Kent there easily. (He's at 54 now -- `git hub user kentfredric`). > > Cheers, Ingy > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Henry Van Styn via yapc > wrote: > >> I don?t normally send out messages like this, but I think this is >> worthwhile, because it is a simple way we can promote our beloved Perl to >> the larger OSS world, even if just a little? >> >> I came across our very own Kent Fredric?s GitHub profile today and did a >> double-take when I read his contrib stats: >> >> https://github.com/kentfredric # "Year of contributions - >> 21,996 total? >> >> Without even speculating by what kind of dedication/witchcraft this >> number is even possible, it made me curious about stats in general for >> GitHub, and some googling turned up this page: >> >> http://git.io/top >> >> This is a report of the ?Most Active? 256 GitHub users. Well, not quite? >> The current number 1 on the list has HALF the contribs (kevinsawicki at >> ?11,430?). kentfredric doesn?t show up because of this second caveat: "Only >> first 1000 GitHub users according to the count of followers are taken. This >> is because of limitations of GitHub search.? >> >> So, it seems all we need to do is have a few hundred people follow >> kentfredric (based on followers counts of others who did make the list) and >> the next time this report is generated, Kent, and thus Perl, will take over >> the number 1 slot ? and by a commanding margin (as it should be) ? and >> dethroning JavaScript. >> >> Currently, Perl is very poorly represented, with just a handful of our >> luminaries showing up (with the first not coming until #40). >> >> I?m not sure how important this report/page actually is, but, I figure, >> why not if it is this easy! kentnl has already quietly done the hard part >> by somehow managing to average over **60** GitHub contributions per day, >> every day, for at least the past 365 days. All we have to do it make 2 >> clicks of the mouse, and tell our coworkers to do the same. It seems like >> we can make this happen in a blink of an eye? >> >> kentfredric++ >> >> >> - vanstyn >> >> Henry Van Styn >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.keating at shadowcat.co.uk Sun Jul 27 00:05:59 2014 From: m.keating at shadowcat.co.uk (Mark Keating) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:05:59 +0100 Subject: Make Perl #1 on git.io/top In-Reply-To: References: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> Message-ID: <53D4A4D7.1040507@shadowcat.co.uk> Someone needs to blog about this and then tweet/share and get it in the Perl Weekly (Gabor, Yannick you guys about?): Okay I JFDI it and the blog about it is here: http://blogs.perl.org/users/shadowcat_mdk/2014/07/lets-top-gitio.html - big Kudos to Vanstyn, Ingy and Faelin for leading me here. On 27/07/2014 05:16, Faelin McCaley Landy via yapc wrote: > This sounds like a very worthwhile endeavors. As of now, > Kents_Backers++ (now maybe I'll actually start using Git xD) > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Ingy dot Net via yapc > wrote: > > Using the git-hub commandline Git command for GitHub ( > https://github.com/ingydotnet/git-hub#readme ) I was able to find > out how many followers each of these leaders have: > https://gist.github.com/ingydotnet/00083efb975c3e51f208 > > It looks like 288 is lowest number of followers, so we should be > able to get Kent there easily. (He's at 54 now -- `git hub user > kentfredric`). > > Cheers, Ingy > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Henry Van Styn via yapc > > wrote: > > I don't normally send out messages like this, but I think this > is worthwhile, because it is a simple way we can promote our > beloved Perl to the larger OSS world, even if just a little... > > I came across our very own Kent Fredric's GitHub profile today > and did a double-take when I read his contrib stats: > > https://github.com/kentfredric # "Year of contributions > - 21,996 total" > > Without even speculating by what kind of dedication/witchcraft > this number is even possible, it made me curious about stats > in general for GitHub, and some googling turned up this page: > > http://git.io/top > > This is a report of the "Most Active" 256 GitHub users. Well, > not quite... The current number 1 on the list has HALF the > contribs (kevinsawicki at "11,430"). kentfredric doesn't show > up because of this second caveat: "Only first 1000 GitHub > users according to the count of followers are taken. This is > because of limitations of GitHub search." > > So, it seems all we need to do is have a few hundred people > follow kentfredric (based on followers counts of others who > did make the list) and the next time this report is generated, > Kent, and thus Perl, will take over the number 1 slot --- and > by a commanding margin (as it should be) --- and dethroning > JavaScript. > > Currently, Perl is very poorly represented, with just a > handful of our luminaries showing up (with the first not > coming until #40). > > I'm not sure how important this report/page actually is, but, > I figure, why not if it is this easy! kentnl has already > quietly done the hard part by somehow managing to average over > **60** GitHub contributions per day, every day, for at least > the past 365 days. All we have to do it make 2 clicks of the > mouse, and tell our coworkers to do the same. It seems like we > can make this happen in a blink of an eye... > > kentfredric++ > > > - vanstyn > > Henry Van Styn > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.keating at shadowcat.co.uk Sun Jul 27 00:11:08 2014 From: m.keating at shadowcat.co.uk (Mark Keating) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:11:08 +0100 Subject: Make Perl #1 on git.io/top In-Reply-To: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> References: <847C677A-42FB-4F46-B69E-024ECB619E79@cpan.org> Message-ID: <53D4A60C.9040607@shadowcat.co.uk> On 26/07/2014 22:03, Henry Van Styn via yapc wrote: > I don't normally send out messages like this, but I think this is > worthwhile, because it is a simple way we can promote our beloved Perl > to the larger OSS world, even if just a little... > > I came across our very own Kent Fredric's GitHub profile today and did > a double-take when I read his contrib stats: > > https://github.com/kentfredric # "Year of contributions - 21,996 > total" > > Without even speculating by what kind of dedication/witchcraft this > number is even possible, it made me curious about stats in general for > GitHub, and some googling turned up this page: > > http://git.io/top > > This is a report of the "Most Active" 256 GitHub users. Well, not > quite... The current number 1 on the list has HALF the contribs > (kevinsawicki at "11,430"). kentfredric doesn't show up because of > this second caveat: "Only first 1000 GitHub users according to the > count of followers are taken. This is because of limitations of GitHub > search." > > So, it seems all we need to do is have a few hundred people follow > kentfredric (based on followers counts of others who did make the > list) and the next time this report is generated, Kent, and thus Perl, > will take over the number 1 slot --- and by a commanding margin (as it > should be) --- and dethroning JavaScript. > > Currently, Perl is very poorly represented, with just a handful of our > luminaries showing up (with the first not coming until #40). > > I'm not sure how important this report/page actually is, but, I > figure, why not if it is this easy! kentnl has already quietly done > the hard part by somehow managing to average over **60** GitHub > contributions per day, every day, for at least the past 365 days. All > we have to do it make 2 clicks of the mouse, and tell our coworkers to > do the same. It seems like we can make this happen in a blink of an eye... > > kentfredric++ > > > - vanstyn > > Henry Van Styn > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc IMHO You should send messages like this out more - thanks and regards to everyone else who joined in. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: