Amazing coffee for YAPC::NA peeps

Daniel Sterling sterling.daniel at gmail.com
Thu Jun 6 12:34:11 PDT 2013


also I apparently like saying "in fact"

On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Daniel S. Sterling wrote:

> In fact , the CAN SPAM law allows sending marketing emails without prior
> permission. The email must include a working opt-out link, though
>
> In fact, I would not be surprised (or upset, since I don't mind getting
> email) if a future announce-only list also included announcements from
> sponsors. I would in fact welcome such email
>
> I like email
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Haugeland <john at crowdtilt.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'john at crowdtilt.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> Advertising in the conference is very different than sending me email.
> Zero other conference sponsors have done this, I suspect because they know
> how angry it makes people.
>
> .
>
> > "You know, "sponsors". Those companies that make sure the venue gets
> paid for and gives you lots of free schwag and  free drinks?"
>
> Yeah, I didn't really take any of those, and all rationalizations aside,
> United States law does not permit this.
>
> I would not accept a free coca cola in exchange for work email spam,
> besides.
>
> .
>
> I would like to be removed from the email list now, please.  It has begun
> spamming, and trying to explain why spamming is okay, even though I never
> actually gave permission to be contacted with sales email.  After the fact
> rationalizations are not interesting to me; I never gave permission, and
> that is the line the law draws in the sand.
>
> Thank you for understanding.  This is not a choice others may make on my
> behalf, even if they are certain that there's nothing wrong.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tracey Clark <tracey at cpanel.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tracey at cpanel.net');>
> > wrote:
>
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>> FWIW I agree with John. I have enjoyed the conference related and
>> tangential discussions on this list. I also prefer not to receive
>> unsolicited commercial messages on it.
>>
>> On 06/06/2013 12:45 PM, John Haugeland wrote:
>> > Respectfully, the email I'm discussing is a sales offer for coffee
>> > by mail order, and had nothing to do with the conference.
>> >
>> > I wish to participate in discussions.  I simply don't want spam.
>>
>> - --
>> Tracey Clark
>> QA Department
>> cPanel, Inc.
>> http://www.cpanel.net
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