From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jul 12 09:51:41 2013 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:51:41 -0400 Subject: new worst movie ever?? Message-ID: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> hi all, sorry to bring this up but i just saw some footage of what this show is calling the worst movie ever. the title alone wins many awards: SHARKNADO they must have spend hours coming up with that name and concept. it will be on syfy soon as an 'original' movie. and it stars tara reid! http://bcove.me/evsljzbj dha did show megashark vs giant octopus at yapc in pitt a few years ago. they even made a sequel called megashark vs crocosaurus! this sounds/looks like the same crew (imdb says they have the same producers). thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers http://PerlHunter.com From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jul 12 09:59:22 2013 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:59:22 -0500 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> Message-ID: http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/07/sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado The film raises a serious question: Could a sharknado happen in real life? Animals often get caught in the paths of tornadoes, but they typically die before they get the chance to harm Tara Reid. An Associated Press report from 1969 describes a Florida tornado that swept through Ocean World. Rather than emboldening the sharks and inspiring heightened, Tara Reid-related bloodlust, the tornado sent the startled animals diving for cover at the bottom of their shallow pool. "We haven't counted the sharks yet," the Ocean World president told the press as his team frantically checked up on the park's valuable fish. In the end, his team had no sharknado to report. Furthermore, even if a sharknado were to somehow form and begin chasing Tara Reid, it is improbable that the whirlwind of shark would pose a danger to humans beyond accidental crushing. (Sharks rarely ever hurt people, and you're more likely to get maimed by your own toilet [1] than by any species of shark.) a [1] http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/us/shark-attack-report How slim? The Florida Museum of Natural History has a host of phenomena that are more likely than a shark attack, and National Geographic in 2011 put together a list of things that are more likely to injure you. Among them: -Since 1948, those in any U.S. state with alligators had a better chance of being killed by one of the reptiles, which had killed 18 people as of 2005, than they did of suffering a fatal shark attack. Conversely, those folks still had a slightly better chance of a nonfatal shark attack. --Between 1985 and 2010, Floridians were almost 21 times as likely to be killed by a tornado (125 deaths) as by a shark (six). Between 1990 and 2009, the state also saw 2,272 bicycle deaths, compared to four from sharks. --In the coastal U.S., lightning killed almost 76 times as many people (1,970) as did sharks (26) between 1959 and 2010. --From 2001 to 2010, dogs killed more than 26 times the number of people (263) than did sharks (10) in the U.S. --Between 1984 and 1987, New York City had almost 1,600 incidents annually of humans biting other humans. That's not really germane to this story so much as it is plain odd. --Sand-hole collapses aren't generally considered among the greatest threats in the U.S., as they killed only 16 people between 1990 and 2006 -- but that's still five more people than sharks killed. --In 1996, toilets injured 43,000 Americans, buckets and pails hurt almost 11,000 and room fresheners were responsible for 2,600 injuries in the nation. Sharks injured 13 people that same year. (There are a variety of toilet-related injuries: Seats can fall, smashing boys' genitalia mid-micturition; cracks in toilet seats can pinch a user's buttocks; and, as the ladies have explained time and time again, gentlemen, leaving the toilet seat up can cause folks to crash into the toilet bowl, damaging their buttocks and/or tailbones.) ---------------------- Andy Bach Systems Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Voice: (608) 261-5738, Cell: (608) 658-1890 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." Robert Sewell. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilcoxon at gmail.com Fri Jul 12 10:17:36 2013 From: wilcoxon at gmail.com (Stephen Wilcoxon) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:17:36 -0500 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> Message-ID: I do see some interesting patterns in your numbers for shark fatalities though (assuming they are all accurate). Two-thirds as many people were killed in 2001-2010 as were killed 1959-2000 (10 vs 16 (26-10)). Of those killed in 200x, at least 9 were killed after 2005 ((18 > shark kills 1948-2005) meaning 0 or 1 were killed 2001-2005). Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark attack. It does seem to indicate that fatal shark attacks have been much higher recently than historically (though still very low - at most 10 deaths 2006-2010)... On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:59 AM, wrote: > > http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/07/sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado > > The film raises a serious question: *Could *a sharknado happen in real > life? Animals often get caught in the paths of tornadoes, but they > typically *die*before they get the chance to harm Tara Reid. An Associated Press > *report*from 1969 describes a Florida tornado that swept through Ocean World. > Rather than emboldening the sharks and inspiring heightened, Tara > Reid-related bloodlust, the tornado sent the startled animals *diving for > cover*at the bottom of their shallow pool. "We haven't counted the sharks yet," > the Ocean World president told the press as his team frantically checked up > on the park's valuable fish. In the end, his team had no sharknado to > report. Furthermore, even if a sharknado were to somehow form and begin > chasing Tara Reid, it is improbable that the whirlwind of shark would pose > a danger to humans beyond accidental crushing. (Sharks rarely ever hurt > people, and *you're more likely to get maimed by your own toilet*[1] than by any species of shark.) > > a > > [1] > http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/us/shark-attack-report > > How slim? The Florida Museum of Natural History has a *host of phenomena > that are more likely*than a shark attack, and National Geographic in 2011 put together a list of > things that are more likely to injure you. Among them: > > -Since 1948, those in any U.S. state with alligators had a better chance > of being killed by one of the reptiles, which had killed 18 people as of > 2005, than they did of suffering a fatal shark attack. Conversely, those > folks still had a slightly better chance of a nonfatal shark attack. > > --Between 1985 and 2010, Floridians were almost 21 times as likely to be > killed by a tornado (125 deaths) as by a shark (six). Between 1990 and > 2009, the state also saw 2,272 bicycle deaths, compared to four from sharks. > > --In the coastal U.S., lightning killed almost 76 times as many people > (1,970) as did sharks (26) between 1959 and 2010. > > --From 2001 to 2010, dogs killed more than 26 times the number of people > (263) than did sharks (10) in the U.S. > > --Between 1984 and 1987, *New York City had almost 1,600 incidents > annually of humans biting other humans*. > That's not really germane to this story so much as it is plain odd. > > --Sand-hole collapses aren't generally considered among the greatest > threats in the U.S., as they killed only 16 people between 1990 and 2006 -- > but that's still five more people than sharks killed. > > --In 1996, *toilets injured 43,000 Americans*, > buckets and pails hurt almost 11,000 and room fresheners were responsible > for 2,600 injuries in the nation. Sharks injured 13 people that same year. > (There are a variety of toilet-related injuries: Seats can fall, smashing > boys' genitalia mid-micturition; cracks in toilet seats can pinch a user's > buttocks; and, as the ladies have explained time and time again, gentlemen, > leaving the toilet seat up can cause folks to crash into the toilet bowl, > damaging their buttocks and/or tailbones.) > > > ---------------------- > Andy Bach > Systems Mangler > Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov > Voice: (608) 261-5738, Cell: (608) 658-1890 > > "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete > themselves upon execution." > Robert Sewell. > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcaputo at pobox.com Fri Jul 12 10:37:02 2013 From: rcaputo at pobox.com (Rocco Caputo) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:37:02 -0400 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> Message-ID: <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote: > > Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark attack. You're relatively safe in Florida, as long as you're IN Florida. New York has the most shark fatalities of any state. New York City is the land shark's native habitat. So come to YAPC::NA 2014! -- Rocco Caputo From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 11:12:38 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> Message-ID: <1373652758.89995.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hopefully Chris and the OPW folks will be able to work out a sharknado response plan with the venue. --Mark ________________________________ From: Rocco Caputo To: Stephen Wilcoxon Cc: "yapc at pm.org" ; Uri Guttman Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: new worst movie ever?? On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote: > > Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark attack. You're relatively safe in Florida, as long as you're IN Florida. New York has the most shark fatalities of any state.? New York City is the land shark's native habitat. So come to YAPC::NA 2014! -- Rocco Caputo _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xsawyerx at cpan.org Fri Jul 12 11:20:44 2013 From: xsawyerx at cpan.org (Sawyer X) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:20:44 +0300 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: <1373652758.89995.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> <1373652758.89995.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My next YAPC::NA (lightning?) talk: "Navigating through legacy code like a tornado of sharks". Don't dare me! On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > Hopefully Chris and the OPW folks will be able to work out a sharknado > response plan with the venue. > > --Mark > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rocco Caputo > *To:* Stephen Wilcoxon > *Cc:* "yapc at pm.org" ; Uri Guttman > *Sent:* Friday, July 12, 2013 12:37 PM > *Subject:* Re: new worst movie ever?? > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote: > > > > Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark > attack. > > You're relatively safe in Florida, as long as you're IN Florida. > > New York has the most shark fatalities of any state. New York City is the > land shark's native habitat. > > So come to YAPC::NA 2014! > > -- > Rocco Caputo > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ether at cpan.org Fri Jul 12 11:31:25 2013 From: ether at cpan.org (Karen Etheridge) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:31:25 -0700 Subject: new list for chat? Message-ID: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> May I request the creation of a new list, "yapc-chat", to keep the main list more clutter-free for those who wish to continue to receive announcements from the YAPC organizers and other posts directly relating to one of the YAPC conferences? (while I find the movie conversation amusing, it's quite orthogonal to the conferences. thanks!) From rurban at x-ray.at Fri Jul 12 13:10:50 2013 From: rurban at x-ray.at (Reini Urban) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:10:50 -0500 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> <1373652758.89995.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As I am a surfer I think I have to chime in as shark attacks happened at my favorite surf spots recently in Texas. We had 3 cases this season, none last season and it always happened early in the morning or late evening. Sharks always choose so far male teenagers, the bites were up to 1cm deep into the skin (the wounds sure look pretty scary), and one teenager got his hand terribly hurt while he hit the shark on his head. I guess he cannot surf now for a whole month. http://surfingintexas.com/texas-shark-attack/ Rattle snakes are the most danger to surfers here as we have no violent locals as on other spots. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Sawyer X wrote: > My next YAPC::NA (lightning?) talk: "Navigating through legacy code like a > tornado of sharks". > > Don't dare me! > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mark Allen wrote: >> >> Hopefully Chris and the OPW folks will be able to work out a sharknado >> response plan with the venue. >> >> --Mark >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Rocco Caputo >> To: Stephen Wilcoxon >> Cc: "yapc at pm.org" ; Uri Guttman >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:37 PM >> Subject: Re: new worst movie ever?? >> >> On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote: >> > >> > Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark >> > attack. >> >> You're relatively safe in Florida, as long as you're IN Florida. >> >> New York has the most shark fatalities of any state. New York City is the >> land shark's native habitat. >> >> So come to YAPC::NA 2014! >> >> -- >> Rocco Caputo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ From david at fetter.org Fri Jul 12 13:17:55 2013 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:17:55 -0700 Subject: new worst movie ever?? In-Reply-To: References: <51E0341D.4020203@stemsystems.com> <215A26E1-53C3-4832-86AC-E3BF09A23B01@pobox.com> <1373652758.89995.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130712201755.GA15042@fetter.org> Could we please add that chat list and take this traffic off it? A lot of us subscribed to find out about YAPC in particular, and you very few who have decided to use it as a chat list are at least potentially driving people off the list as a consequence of your decision. Please reconsider. Cheers, David. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 03:10:50PM -0500, Reini Urban wrote: > As I am a surfer I think I have to chime in as shark attacks happened > at my favorite surf spots recently in Texas. We had 3 cases this > season, none last season and it always happened early in the morning > or late evening. > Sharks always choose so far male teenagers, the bites were up to 1cm > deep into the skin > (the wounds sure look pretty scary), and one teenager got his hand > terribly hurt while he hit the shark > on his head. I guess he cannot surf now for a whole month. > > http://surfingintexas.com/texas-shark-attack/ > > Rattle snakes are the most danger to surfers here as we have no > violent locals as on other spots. > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Sawyer X wrote: > > My next YAPC::NA (lightning?) talk: "Navigating through legacy code like a > > tornado of sharks". > > > > Don't dare me! > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > >> > >> Hopefully Chris and the OPW folks will be able to work out a sharknado > >> response plan with the venue. > >> > >> --Mark > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Rocco Caputo > >> To: Stephen Wilcoxon > >> Cc: "yapc at pm.org" ; Uri Guttman > >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:37 PM > >> Subject: Re: new worst movie ever?? > >> > >> On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote: > >> > > >> > Florida is probably the state with the highest chance of fatal shark > >> > attack. > >> > >> You're relatively safe in Florida, as long as you're IN Florida. > >> > >> New York has the most shark fatalities of any state. New York City is the > >> land shark's native habitat. > >> > >> So come to YAPC::NA 2014! > >> > >> -- > >> Rocco Caputo > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yapc mailing list > >> yapc at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yapc mailing list > >> yapc at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > Reini Urban > http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter at gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From chris at prather.org Fri Jul 12 13:20:13 2013 From: chris at prather.org (Chris Prather) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:20:13 -0400 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: Plans are already being made to do the opposite and have a 'yapc-announce' list that will be for announcements only. The existing list will be left for Sharknado conversations. I will see if I can get information on the schedule for when the yapc-announce list will be set up. -Chris On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Karen Etheridge wrote: > May I request the creation of a new list, "yapc-chat", to keep the main > list more clutter-free for those who wish to continue to receive > announcements from the YAPC organizers and other posts directly relating to > one of the YAPC conferences? > > (while I find the movie conversation amusing, it's quite orthogonal to the > conferences. thanks!) > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toddr at cpanel.net Fri Jul 12 13:23:32 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:23:32 -0500 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: Karen, I was already planning on creating a mailing list this week on yapcna.org. It will be populated from this list and be announce only (no replys). New registrants for yapc 2014 will be added to the announce list only. yapc at pm.org is a very old mailing list. As far as we can tell, it was only ever used for YAPC::NA. It will remain / become the chat mailing list. The list now has a moderator and inappropriate conversations will be curbed. It is up to Genehack if shark discussions fall under that. On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Karen Etheridge wrote: > May I request the creation of a new list, "yapc-chat", to keep the main > list more clutter-free for those who wish to continue to receive > announcements from the YAPC organizers and other posts directly relating to > one of the YAPC conferences? > > (while I find the movie conversation amusing, it's quite orthogonal to the > conferences. thanks!) > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From genehack at genehack.org Fri Jul 12 13:25:30 2013 From: genehack at genehack.org (John SJ Anderson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:25:30 -0700 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > It is up to Genehack if shark discussions fall under that. The shark conversation is skating right up against the edge, to be honest. From mst at shadowcat.co.uk Fri Jul 12 13:25:43 2013 From: mst at shadowcat.co.uk (Matt S Trout) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:25:43 +0000 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: <20130712202543.GA1395@newagaton.scsys.co.uk> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 03:23:32PM -0500, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Karen, > > I was already planning on creating a mailing list this week on yapcna.org. It will be populated from this list and be announce only (no replys). New registrants for yapc 2014 will be added to the announce list only. ITYM replies. Bloody illiterate colonials. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team. From mst at shadowcat.co.uk Fri Jul 12 13:28:01 2013 From: mst at shadowcat.co.uk (Matt S Trout) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:28:01 +0000 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: <20130712202801.GB1395@newagaton.scsys.co.uk> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 01:25:30PM -0700, John SJ Anderson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > It is up to Genehack if shark discussions fall under that. > > The shark conversation is skating right up against the edge, to be honest. Sharks can skate? Do Disney on Ice have a policy for how to defend against this new threat? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team. From stevan.little at iinteractive.com Fri Jul 12 13:29:39 2013 From: stevan.little at iinteractive.com (Stevan Little) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:29:39 -0400 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> Message-ID: On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:25 PM, John SJ Anderson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >> It is up to Genehack if shark discussions fall under that. > > The shark conversation is skating right up against the edge, to be honest. Considering Orlando is land locked I think it is completely inappropriate. That said, have you guys seen the movie "Attack of the 50 ft Space Alligator"? Cause it is AWESOME!!!! (and highly relevant to Orlando) ;) > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From genehack at genehack.org Fri Jul 12 13:56:36 2013 From: genehack at genehack.org (John SJ Anderson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:56:36 -0700 Subject: new list for chat? In-Reply-To: <20130712202801.GB1395@newagaton.scsys.co.uk> References: <20130712183125.GA54945@tequila.westerncable.ca> <20130712202801.GB1395@newagaton.scsys.co.uk> Message-ID: I'd like to thank everybody for running this thread into the ground, breaking it off, and setting the stump on fire. It's closed now. Further replies in this thread wil give me an excuse to test out my shiny new Mallet Of Mailing List Manglement. Please don't feel like you have to be an example to others. chrs, john, aka yr list mom. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 01:25:30PM -0700, John SJ Anderson wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >> > It is up to Genehack if shark discussions fall under that. >> >> The shark conversation is skating right up against the edge, to be honest. > > Sharks can skate? Do Disney on Ice have a policy for how to defend > against this new threat? > > -- > Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue > > http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ > > Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN > commercial support, training and consultancy packages could help your team.