[yapc] Talk submissions are closed

[Dave Stoddard]

I have a talk I would like to submit, and I was attempting
to complete the proposal submission form when the window
closed.  I was not ready to do this a month ago as I had too
many balls in the air.

What time do the normal talks close?  Would there be any
chance of doing an overtime talk?  FWIW, I have a pretty
nifty code generator for Perl that I am getting ready to
release as open source, and there may be a few folks that
would be interested in learning more about it.
Best,

Dave Stoddard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: yapc-bounces+dgs=accelix.net at pm.org [mailto:yapc-
> bounces+dgs=accelix.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of David Fetter
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: Matt S Trout
> Cc: yapc at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [yapc] Talk submissions are closed
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 07:42:08PM +0100, Matt S Trout wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:02:42AM -0700, David Fetter wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 01:46:34PM -0400, Rob Kinyon wrote:
> > > > The last couple slots have been taken. So, unless you can
> > > > convince a friend to drop his talk, the only option is a
> > > > lightning talk on Monday or Tuesday.
> > >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > I know you meant well by this, but please, NEVER encourage anyone
> > > to do their not-accepted long talk as a lightning talk.  It simply
> > > won't fit in the time allotted, and makes the speaker look like a
> > > desperate fool.  A lightning talk is a completely different beast
> > > from any other kind, and is something you write from the ground up
> > > as a lightning talk.
> >
> > David, I know you meant well by this, but please, NEVER discourage
> > somebody from submitting a lightning talk for any reason.
> 
> Matt,
> 
> You're mistaken on this.  I have data, and quite a bit of it, as you
> know.
> 
> I've watched people try to "condense" longer talks into lightning
> talks, and not one time EVER has a good thing come out of it.  Not
> once have I ever seen the person making this mistake do a lightning
> talk that was better later, nor, for that matter, a longer
> presentation later.  The humiliation is inevitable, and that's an
> incredibly potent de-motivator, both for the potential speaker and for
> the audience.
> 
> Doing that is a speaker-career-ending move.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
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