From yapc at packy.org  Sun May  4 10:54:40 2008
From: yapc at packy.org (yapc at packy.org)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 13:54:40 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Eligibility for housing at YAPC::NA
Message-ID: <200805041754.m44Hsem05783@invidia.vicetap.net>

Hey, all.

Josh, does one have to be an attendee of the conference to be able to stay in the dorm rooms?  My fiancee is coming out with me so she can sight-see and stuff, and I'm wondering if we can get a double dorm room or if we have to stay off-campus.

Thanks!
-packy

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sun May  4 20:34:31 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 22:34:31 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Eligibility for housing at YAPC::NA
In-Reply-To: <200805041754.m44Hsem05783@invidia.vicetap.net>
References: <200805041754.m44Hsem05783@invidia.vicetap.net>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805042034l2e304f81v99daeebc8211e44f@mail.gmail.com>

Conference attendance is not required... you guys can stay in the
dorms.  The purchasing for the dorms should be rolling out this week.

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM,  <yapc at packy.org> wrote:
> Hey, all.
>
> Josh, does one have to be an attendee of the conference to be able to stay in the dorm rooms?  My fiancee is coming out with me so she can sight-see and stuff, and I'm wondering if we can get a double dorm room or if we have to stay off-campus.
>
> Thanks!
> -packy
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>

From fluhmann at gmail.com  Fri May  9 09:01:40 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:01:40 -0500
Subject: [yapc] reminder: yapc-na 2009 call for venue ending in less than a
	month
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0805090901x24ce1e2cy10e198725440c751@mail.gmail.com>

Just a quick reminder, the YAPC::NA 2009 Call for
Venue<http://news.perlfoundation.org/2008/03/yapcna_2009_call_for_venue.html>will
be closing in less than a month. If you plan on trying to host
YAPC::NA
2009 and you haven't started on your bid, you'd better get to it! The
deadline for submissions this year is June 1st (as we would like to announce
the 2009 venue at this year's
YAPC::NA<http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/>).
You can get all of the details and see the Call for Venue
posting<http://news.perlfoundation.org/2008/03/yapcna_2009_call_for_venue.html>on
The
Perl Foundation's blog <http://news.perlfoundation.org/>.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Thanks,
Jeremy

Jeremy Fluhmann
Conferences Chair
The Perl Foundation
email: fluhmann at perlfoundation.org
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From zaz at mitre.org  Fri May  9 11:13:56 2008
From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:13:56 -0400
Subject: [yapc] FYI - Room reservations are open
In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0805090901x24ce1e2cy10e198725440c751@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7f7c2d5e0805090901x24ce1e2cy10e198725440c751@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F23269F15EAD9B4497D34CAC6C3212A655D622@IMCSRV8.MITRE.ORG>

As I haven't seen a note on this list yet, YAPC-NA 2008 room
reservations are open.  From the YAPC web page:

 

Housing, parking and meal options are now available for purchase in the
YAPC::NA 2008 registration system
<http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase> .

This year, all dorm accommodations are in the MSV dorm due to
construction at SSV. We have both single and double rooms available. If
you register for a double room and wish to allow a roommate to check
themselves in, please let Josh
<http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/user/1561>  or myself know so
we can make the appropriate arrangements. Housing registration will
close on Friday, May 30th at 11:59 PM CT. After that time, you will
have to make alternate arrangements.

The dining cards work the same as in 2006: you can purchase a card at
registration that works at the various dining areas on campus. The
cards are available in $20 increments. In 2006, we estimated that
breakfast would cost approximately $5 per day, lunch $10 per day, and
dinner $15 per day. Dinner will be provided on Tuesday.

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From yapc at packy.org  Thu May 15 13:37:25 2008
From: yapc at packy.org (yapc at packy.org)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:37:25 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
Message-ID: <200805152037.m4FKbPc15625@invidia.vicetap.net>

Since I wound up changing jobs right around last year's YAPC::NA, my
memory's a little fuzzy...  is there some kind of party prior to the
auction on Tuesday night?  I remember one from the last Chicago YAPC
and the one in Toronto...

And if we were thinking about being cruel and dragging along an SO
who has no knowledge of Perl, could that be bought into? 

Thanks!
-packy

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 15 13:52:25 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:52:25 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <200805152037.m4FKbPc15625@invidia.vicetap.net>
	(yapc@packy.org's message of "Thu, 15 May 2008 16:37:25 -0400")
References: <200805152037.m4FKbPc15625@invidia.vicetap.net>
Message-ID: <x7prrncmt2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "y" == yapc  <yapc at packy.org> writes:

  y> Since I wound up changing jobs right around last year's YAPC::NA, my
  y> memory's a little fuzzy...  is there some kind of party prior to the
  y> auction on Tuesday night?  I remember one from the last Chicago YAPC
  y> and the one in Toronto...

the auction is part of the yapc banquet which is free to attendees. the
banquet dinner is usually before it so we can get the attendees liquored
up enough to bid high on stuff!

  y> And if we were thinking about being cruel and dragging along an SO
  y> who has no knowledge of Perl, could that be bought into? 

the banquet can be fun for outsiders depending on how well they can
handle being around perl hackers. :) but in general you can buy seats to
the banquet for the uninitiated. last time in chicago (2 years ago) it
was at dave and busters which offered plenty of games and fun for those
who didn't want to be bored to death by that auctioneer (me :).

uri, yapc socialist czar

uri

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From yapc at packy.org  Thu May 15 14:34:08 2008
From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:34:08 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
Message-ID: <200805152134.m4FLY8u16431@invidia.vicetap.net>

>>>>> "u" == Uri Guttman < uri at stemsystems.com > writes:

 u> the banquet can be fun for outsiders depending on how well
 u> they can handle being around perl hackers. :) but in general
 u> you can buy seats to the banquet for the uninitiated. last 
 u> time in chicago (2 years ago) it was at dave and busters 
 u> which offered plenty of games and fun for those who didn't 
 u> want to be bored to death by that auctioneer (me :).

Any idea when pricing for said seats and the deadline for reserving them will be announced?  I don't know yet whether or not I'll be bringing her along to the banquet; part of the decision making process will be how much it will cost us compared to her wandering off into Chicago on her own...

-packy

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 15 14:40:22 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:40:22 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <200805152134.m4FLY8u16431@invidia.vicetap.net>
	(Packy Anderson's message of "Thu, 15 May 2008 17:34:08 -0400")
References: <200805152134.m4FLY8u16431@invidia.vicetap.net>
Message-ID: <x74p8zb60p.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "PA" == Packy Anderson <yapc at packy.org> writes:

>>>>> "u" == Uri Guttman < uri at stemsystems.com > writes:
  u> the banquet can be fun for outsiders depending on how well
  u> they can handle being around perl hackers. :) but in general
  u> you can buy seats to the banquet for the uninitiated. last 
  u> time in chicago (2 years ago) it was at dave and busters 
  u> which offered plenty of games and fun for those who didn't 
  u> want to be bored to death by that auctioneer (me :).

  PA> Any idea when pricing for said seats and the deadline for
  PA> reserving them will be announced?  I don't know yet whether or not
  PA> I'll be bringing her along to the banquet; part of the decision
  PA> making process will be how much it will cost us compared to her
  PA> wandering off into Chicago on her own...

i will guess it is about $30-40 for the banquet. josh mcadams will know
more but he hasn't picked the location/etc. for it yet. the deadline is
usually about a week in advance so you have plenty of time still. i will
kick josh to get these things done so others can also plan to torture
their SO's will the yapc banquet. :)

thanx,

uri

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-----  Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------
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From jkeen at verizon.net  Thu May 15 15:37:52 2008
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:37:52 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <x7prrncmt2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <200805152037.m4FKbPc15625@invidia.vicetap.net>
	<x7prrncmt2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <1C4973F4-BCAE-4A4F-A0CC-B5472CB5A122@verizon.net>


On May 15, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>> "y" == yapc  <yapc at packy.org> writes:
>
>
> uri, yapc socialist czar
>
>

I was wondering when the czar would make his appearance.  So now YAPC- 
season has officially begun!

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 15 16:29:14 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:29:14 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <1C4973F4-BCAE-4A4F-A0CC-B5472CB5A122@verizon.net>
	(James E. Keenan's message of "Thu, 15 May 2008 18:37:52 -0400")
References: <200805152037.m4FKbPc15625@invidia.vicetap.net>
	<x7prrncmt2.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<1C4973F4-BCAE-4A4F-A0CC-B5472CB5A122@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <x74p8z9met.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "JEK" == James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net> writes:

  JEK> On May 15, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Uri Guttman wrote:
  >>>>>>> "y" == yapc  <yapc at packy.org> writes:
  >> 
  >> 
  >> uri, yapc socialist czar
  >> 
  >> 

  JEK> I was wondering when the czar would make his appearance.  So now YAPC- 
  JEK> season has officially begun!

i needed to be dragged out of hibernation.

uri

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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu May 15 19:50:58 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:50:58 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <x74p8zb60p.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <200805152134.m4FLY8u16431@invidia.vicetap.net>
	<x74p8zb60p.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805151950g6b45bf1v1940e6088e92be20@mail.gmail.com>

> i will guess it is about $30-40 for the banquet. josh mcadams will know
> more but he hasn't picked the location/etc. for it yet. the deadline is

They added a bowling alley, bar, and game room to the conference
center, so we'll be having the Tuesday night banquet there.  I'm going
to talk to the caterers on Monday, so I'll know more about cost after
that.

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 15 20:48:02 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:48:02 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805151950g6b45bf1v1940e6088e92be20@mail.gmail.com>
	(Joshua McAdams's message of "Thu, 15 May 2008 21:50:58 -0500")
References: <200805152134.m4FLY8u16431@invidia.vicetap.net>
	<x74p8zb60p.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
	<49d805d70805151950g6b45bf1v1940e6088e92be20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x7lk2a7vv1.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> writes:

  >> i will guess it is about $30-40 for the banquet. josh mcadams will know
  >> more but he hasn't picked the location/etc. for it yet. the deadline is

  JM> They added a bowling alley, bar, and game room to the conference
  JM> center, so we'll be having the Tuesday night banquet there.  I'm going
  JM> to talk to the caterers on Monday, so I'll know more about cost after
  JM> that.

that saves the cat herding on the el!

the game night (which wasn't the banquet) in houston was a
blast. hopefully they have air hockey too!

uri

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From andrewrodland at comcast.net  Thu May 15 20:57:52 2008
From: andrewrodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:57:52 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
Message-ID: <200805152257.52343.andrewrodland@comcast.net>

On Thursday 15 May 2008 09:50:58 pm Joshua McAdams wrote:
> > i will guess it is about $30-40 for the banquet. josh mcadams will know
> > more but he hasn't picked the location/etc. for it yet. the deadline is
>
> They added a bowling alley, bar, and game room to the conference
> center, so we'll be having the Tuesday night banquet there.  I'm going
> to talk to the caterers on Monday, so I'll know more about cost after
> that.

Woo! Bowling! And Uri can set himself up as air hockey king again, and maybe I 
can knock him down again. :-P

Andrew

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 15 21:13:06 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 00:13:06 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Tuesday night
In-Reply-To: <200805152257.52343.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
	(Andrew Rodland's message of "Thu, 15 May 2008 22:57:52 -0500")
References: <200805152257.52343.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <x71w426g4t.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "AR" == Andrew Rodland <andrewrodland at comcast.net> writes:

  AR> On Thursday 15 May 2008 09:50:58 pm Joshua McAdams wrote:
  >> > i will guess it is about $30-40 for the banquet. josh mcadams will know
  >> > more but he hasn't picked the location/etc. for it yet. the deadline is
  >> 
  >> They added a bowling alley, bar, and game room to the conference
  >> center, so we'll be having the Tuesday night banquet there.  I'm going
  >> to talk to the caterers on Monday, so I'll know more about cost after
  >> that.

  AR> Woo! Bowling! And Uri can set himself up as air hockey king again,
  AR> and maybe I can knock him down again. :-P

please open your mouth as wide as a puck for you will soon be consuming
mass quantities of supersonic plastic discs!! that is if they have air
hockey.

uri

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--------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html ---------
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From ddaupert at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 18 18:02:40 2008
From: ddaupert at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Daupert)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:02:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [yapc] FYI - Room reservations are open
In-Reply-To: <mailman.29.1210359632.12085.yapc@pm.org>
Message-ID: <728426.52215.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Housing, parking and meal options are now available 
> for purchase in the YAPC::NA 2008 registration system
> <http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase> 

So I went to the online payment page, made some selections for parking, room, etc, clicked 'Buy Now!' and the page recycled. 

I was not redirected to any entity that could suck money out of my credit card, as I was when I registered for the conference itself.

Anybody else having an issue with that system?

/dennis
 
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From tjp at dairynet.com  Mon May 19 06:26:12 2008
From: tjp at dairynet.com (Timothy J Pangburn)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:26:12 -0500
Subject: [yapc] FYI - Room reservations are open
In-Reply-To: <728426.52215.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OF7B007A8E.B2A9EEBA-ON8625744E.00495923-8625744E.0049CF64@dairynet.com>

Dennis,

I had the same issue. I unregistered from the conference and then went 
back and registered again. This seemed to clear the issue.

This problem occurred when I went to pay for the conference but canceled 
out on the credit card process.

Hope this helps.

Tim


______________________________________
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Control Systems Programmer Analyst
mailto:tjp at Dairynet.com
Phone: 608-787-1348
Fax: 608-787-1422
Dairyland Power Corporative
www.dairynet.com
3200 East Avenue South
P.O. Box 817
La Crosse, WI 54601-0817




Dennis Daupert <ddaupert at sbcglobal.net> 
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> Housing, parking and meal options are now available 
> for purchase in the YAPC::NA 2008 registration system
> <http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase> 

So I went to the online payment page, made some selections for parking, 
room, etc, clicked 'Buy Now!' and the page recycled. 

I was not redirected to any entity that could suck money out of my credit 
card, as I was when I registered for the conference itself.

Anybody else having an issue with that system?

/dennis
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon May 19 12:33:13 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:33:13 -0500
Subject: [yapc] FYI - Room reservations are open
In-Reply-To: <728426.52215.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.29.1210359632.12085.yapc@pm.org>
	<728426.52215.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805191233l2954272akf4daaf4a5ec44eb8@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty sure that this is due to the way that the toolkit that the
site is built on processes the payment form.  Any time you select an
item via a radio button, you also have to check the checkbox right
before the corresponding set of radio buttons.  When you don't select
the checkbox, you don't get an error message and the form doesn't just
work, instead it cycles back to the form.  Try checking checkboxes for
everything that you want to purchase, including those things that you
already selected via radio button.

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Dennis Daupert <ddaupert at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Housing, parking and meal options are now available
>> for purchase in the YAPC::NA 2008 registration system
>> <http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase>
>
> So I went to the online payment page, made some selections for parking,
> room, etc, clicked 'Buy Now!' and the page recycled.
>
> I was not redirected to any entity that could suck money out of my credit
> card, as I was when I registered for the conference itself.
>
> Anybody else having an issue with that system?
>
> /dennis
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From chromatic at wgz.org  Mon May 19 12:59:03 2008
From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:59:03 -0700
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
Message-ID: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>

I'm thinking of flying in on Friday night (13 June), and the plane should 
arrive at Midway after 10:30 pm.  I don't precisely recollect what it takes 
to get to the dorms from Midway; is it possible the L or one of its transfer 
lines will run at that hour?

I know the Portland Red Line to and from the airport slows down around that 
hour.

-- c

From andrewrodland at comcast.net  Mon May 19 13:17:55 2008
From: andrewrodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:55 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
Message-ID: <200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>

On Monday 19 May 2008 02:59:03 pm chromatic wrote:
> I'm thinking of flying in on Friday night (13 June), and the plane should
> arrive at Midway after 10:30 pm.  I don't precisely recollect what it takes
> to get to the dorms from Midway; is it possible the L or one of its
> transfer lines will run at that hour?

Google suggests that the route would be Orange Line -> Roosevelt -> Green 
Line -> IIT, and that the last train on that route is 1AM. After that it 
gives 62 bus -> Roosevelt -> Red Line (runs all night, at least 
occasionally) -> IIT.

Andrew

From andy at petdance.com  Mon May 19 13:19:25 2008
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:19:25 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
	<200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1990F36E-C6C3-488C-A3D4-EE74C1D742FB@petdance.com>


On May 19, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Rodland wrote:

>> I'm thinking of flying in on Friday night (13 June), and the plane  
>> should
>> arrive at Midway after 10:30 pm.  I don't precisely recollect what  
>> it takes
>> to get to the dorms from Midway; is it possible the L or one of its
>> transfer lines will run at that hour?
>
> Google suggests that the route would be Orange Line -> Roosevelt ->  
> Green
> Line -> IIT, and that the last train on that route is 1AM. After  
> that it
> gives 62 bus -> Roosevelt -> Red Line (runs all night, at least
> occasionally) -> IIT.


Please also recall that neither Midway nor IIT are very good  
neighborhoods.

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From waltman at pobox.com  Mon May 19 14:08:53 2008
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:08:53 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <1990F36E-C6C3-488C-A3D4-EE74C1D742FB@petdance.com>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
	<200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
	<1990F36E-C6C3-488C-A3D4-EE74C1D742FB@petdance.com>
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On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 03:19:25PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
> 
> On May 19, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Rodland wrote:
> 
> >> I'm thinking of flying in on Friday night (13 June), and the plane  
> >> should
> >> arrive at Midway after 10:30 pm.  I don't precisely recollect what  
> >> it takes
> >> to get to the dorms from Midway; is it possible the L or one of its
> >> transfer lines will run at that hour?
> >
> > Google suggests that the route would be Orange Line -> Roosevelt ->  
> > Green
> > Line -> IIT, and that the last train on that route is 1AM. After  
> > that it
> > gives 62 bus -> Roosevelt -> Red Line (runs all night, at least
> > occasionally) -> IIT.
> 
> 
> Please also recall that neither Midway nor IIT are very good  
> neighborhoods.

There was a lot of discussion about the safety of the area around IIT
two years ago.  To be honest, I didn't know what to expect.  The South
Side of Chicago has a certainly notoriety, after all.

But now after spending 4 days on the IIT campus, I can say I was
pleasantly surprised by the campus.  Whatever my prior image was of
the South Side (mostly from watching the Blues Brothers too many
times) that's not at all what IIT is like.  The campus has lots of
grass and trees and interesting modern architecture, crisscrossed by
broad avenues.  And the el stops right in the middle of campus.  I
never felt the least bit unsafe.  You probably don't want to be
wandering around the neighborhood at that hour of night with luggage
(true for any big city) but if you stick to campus you should be fine.

If you remember how to get to the dorms (MSV, not SSV) it's only a
block or two from the el stop.  However, if you don't remember how the
campus is laid out, or if you weren't there 2 years ago, you might at
least consider having someone meet you at IIT el stop.

Walt

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon May 19 14:31:27 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:31:27 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <20080519210853.GB12118@mawode.com>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
	<200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
	<1990F36E-C6C3-488C-A3D4-EE74C1D742FB@petdance.com>
	<20080519210853.GB12118@mawode.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805191431h7a9e84f9o6a2883821d023280@mail.gmail.com>

> But now after spending 4 days on the IIT campus, I can say I was
> pleasantly surprised by the campus.  Whatever my prior image was of
> the South Side (mostly from watching the Blues Brothers too many
> times) that's not at all what IIT is like.  The campus has lots of
> grass and trees and interesting modern architecture, crisscrossed by
> broad avenues.  And the el stops right in the middle of campus.  I
> never felt the least bit unsafe.  You probably don't want to be
> wandering around the neighborhood at that hour of night with luggage
> (true for any big city) but if you stick to campus you should be fine.

The neighborhood has only improved since then.  They've opened up an
Red Line 'L' entrance on the north side of the station, which is
closer to the center of campus.  Also, there have been new condos
going up and all of the immediately surrounding project housing has
been removed.

> If you remember how to get to the dorms (MSV, not SSV) it's only a
> block or two from the el stop.  However, if you don't remember how the
> campus is laid out, or if you weren't there 2 years ago, you might at
> least consider having someone meet you at IIT el stop.

If you do take the Green line in, consider exiting on the North side
of the platform.  It will put you just a 1/2 block from MSV.  Details
can be found at:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102563148614726261820.00044b2c12701bdd693ee&ll=41.835053,-87.626309&spn=0.011831,0.017338&z=16

From andy at petdance.com  Mon May 19 15:20:23 2008
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:20:23 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <20080519210853.GB12118@mawode.com>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
	<200805191517.55983.andrewrodland@comcast.net>
	<1990F36E-C6C3-488C-A3D4-EE74C1D742FB@petdance.com>
	<20080519210853.GB12118@mawode.com>
Message-ID: <C846CB01-F325-46DF-A8DB-C7D44AA1A455@petdance.com>


On May 19, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote:

> (mostly from watching the Blues Brothers too many
> times)


Please note that there is no such thing as "watching the Blues  
Brothers too many times."

I remained celibate for you,
Andy

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon May 19 13:10:56 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:10:56 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Transportation From the Airport
In-Reply-To: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
References: <200805191259.03237.chromatic@wgz.org>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805191310s20dd1161s9505a94493d23f2f@mail.gmail.com>

Everything that you need will still be running.  I've attached a
screen-shot of a possibly itinerary.  To get this one I went to
http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com, selected from 'Midway CTA' to
'Illinois Institute of Technology' on June 13th at 11 PM.  I also
selected the trains-only option.  If you don't mind buses, you can
keep the defaults, but with luggage and from Midway, it is probably
easier to stick with the trains.  You're transfer from Orange to Green
lines will literally be across the platform.

One note on this itinerary, it tells you to go to Clark and Lake to do
the transfer... that's unnecessary.  Ride the Orange line to Roosevelt
and then cross the platform and get on a southbound Green line train.

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, chromatic <chromatic at wgz.org> wrote:
> I'm thinking of flying in on Friday night (13 June), and the plane should
> arrive at Midway after 10:30 pm.  I don't precisely recollect what it takes
> to get to the dorms from Midway; is it possible the L or one of its transfer
> lines will run at that hour?
>
> I know the Portland Red Line to and from the airport slows down around that
> hour.
>
> -- c
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon May 26 22:50:08 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:50:08 -0500
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
Message-ID: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>

If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
sign up before then.

Also, if you want an on-campus credit account for food, please
purchase it before the 30th.  Not having the card doesn't exclude you
from having meals, but it does help the school plan out the number of
people dining on-campus.  Also, all of the extra credit can be used to
feed the post-YAPC hack-a-thons!

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase

See you at YAPC::NA!
Josh McAdams

From karen-perl at martian.org  Tue May 27 04:11:35 2008
From: karen-perl at martian.org (Karen Pauley)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:11:35 +0100
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080527111135.GA4247@soto.kasei.com>

On Tue May 27 00:50:08 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
> time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
> final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
> sign up before then.

I assume you mean May 30th?

See you soon!

-- 
Karen

From jbisbee at gmail.com  Tue May 27 07:21:53 2008
From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:21:53 -0400
Subject: [yapc] About the "Mailman privacy alert" You May Have Recieved
Message-ID: <e07cf2d10805270721q5e1308e0sb7e2ec7dceabe03e@mail.gmail.com>

I suggested to Josh that he take all the e-mail addresses from the
registrants for this years YAPC and subscribe them to this mailing
list.

As a result of this subscription, many of of us who were already
subscribed got e-mails entitled "Mailman privacy alert".  Just so you
know this isn't a big deal and you can just delete it.

-- 
Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue May 27 07:27:48 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:27:48 -0500
Subject: [yapc] About the "Mailman privacy alert" You May Have Recieved
In-Reply-To: <e07cf2d10805270721q5e1308e0sb7e2ec7dceabe03e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e07cf2d10805270721q5e1308e0sb7e2ec7dceabe03e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805270727x1be689c5p315ce1bc8f92340e@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, apologies for that everyone.  I don't have a list of who is
already subscribed, so I had to try to subscribe everyone.

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Jeff Bisbee <jbisbee at gmail.com> wrote:
> I suggested to Josh that he take all the e-mail addresses from the
> registrants for this years YAPC and subscribe them to this mailing
> list.
>
> As a result of this subscription, many of of us who were already
> subscribed got e-mails entitled "Mailman privacy alert".  Just so you
> know this isn't a big deal and you can just delete it.
>
> --
> Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue May 27 07:35:33 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:35:33 -0500
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <20080527111135.GA4247@soto.kasei.com>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080527111135.GA4247@soto.kasei.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805270735o319833e1l164158635b5481fc@mail.gmail.com>

Correct.  It's fixed on the site now.  Thanks for catching it in the email.

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Karen Pauley <karen-perl at martian.org> wrote:
> On Tue May 27 00:50:08 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>> If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
>> time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
>> final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
>> sign up before then.
>
> I assume you mean May 30th?
>
> See you soon!
>
> --
> Karen
>

From szabgab at gmail.com  Tue May 27 08:00:54 2008
From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:00:54 +0300
Subject: [yapc] About the "Mailman privacy alert" You May Have Recieved
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805270727x1be689c5p315ce1bc8f92340e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e07cf2d10805270721q5e1308e0sb7e2ec7dceabe03e@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70805270727x1be689c5p315ce1bc8f92340e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d8a74af10805270800n467b7c09na6bf3ed5446fc7a7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Joshua McAdams
<joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, apologies for that everyone.  I don't have a list of who is
> already subscribed, so I had to try to subscribe everyone.

On my part I thanks you for sending the subscription.

Though I was a bit surprised as I have not asked for it but at
least this way I know which list to spam err, inform about
the Test Automation Master class I am giving after YAPC::NA

so here it is now
http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2008/05/1210708621.html

and soon I am going to send a more detailed message.

regards
    Gabor

-- 
Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html
Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html

From jtrucks at lopsa.org  Tue May 27 08:32:49 2008
From: jtrucks at lopsa.org (Jesse Trucks)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:32:49 -0500
Subject: [yapc] System Administration Master Class
Message-ID: <20080527153249.GE23957@sangha.cyberius.net>

Greetings YAPC::NA folks!

Some of you may be System Administrators of some type of system. If so, no
matter what your SA experience is, you should join us for the System
Administration Master Class!

This class covers a variety of topics at a level divorced from specific
technologies, so someone of any experience level or someone managing any type
of system or technology will benefit from attending.

More details are at: 

http://lopsa.org/YAPCNA2008Class

Sign up today at:

https://www.theperlreview.com/cgi-bin/events.cgi?action=show_form;event_id=sysadmin_yapcna_2008

Send me any questions you may have about the class, too!

Thanks,
Jesse

-- 
Jesse Trucks, GCIH, GCUX
jtrucks at lopsa.org 
Director, LOPSA
http://lopsa.org

From tom at tacocat.net  Wed May 28 03:27:07 2008
From: tom at tacocat.net (Tom Allison)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:27:07 -0400
Subject: [yapc] WTF?
Message-ID: <483D337B.5000702@tacocat.net>

I'm a little surprised to find myself on the mailing list, two months 
after I signed up to the list and attempted to register.

Only recently has enough information been readily available from the 
website to find all the answers to my employer to even begin trying to 
get this YAPC covered as a business trip.

And with three days left to register for housing.

I'm not sure exactly what happened to the overall process here, but this 
is not the same experience last time Chicago hosted YAPC or other cities 
that I have attended.  It was much better in the past.

And yes, I can complain and outright bitch about this because right now 
I'm pretty certain I won't be able to make it to this convention in part 
to the lack of time available to organize.  Instead I'm trying to get 
someone else to go, if possible, who shall remain anonymous.

To put it simply, for whatever reason(s), this year it's been a pretty 
poor registration process and in the future I'll be much less trusting 
fo the organizers to get their act together in a timely manner.

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Wed May 28 08:52:21 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:52:21 -0400
Subject: [yapc] WTF?
In-Reply-To: <483D337B.5000702@tacocat.net>
References: <483D337B.5000702@tacocat.net>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805280852p69adaa27gba2e6d57a3cec23@mail.gmail.com>

> To put it simply, for whatever reason(s), this year it's been a pretty
> poor registration process and in the future I'll be much less trusting
> fo the organizers to get their act together in a timely manner.

Hi Tom, I'm sorry to hear that you've had a poor experience in trying
to register for the conference and I appreciate your feedback.  Can
you be a little more specific on the information that was missing from
the website that prevented you from being about to justify the
conference to your employer?  If we know what you need, we can try to
get the relevant information out sooner, if possible, for future
YAPC::NA's.

Josh

From leosusanto at gmail.com  Wed May 28 09:58:50 2008
From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:58:50 -0400
Subject: [yapc] WTF?
In-Reply-To: <483D337B.5000702@tacocat.net>
References: <483D337B.5000702@tacocat.net>
Message-ID: <9f7f38940805280958w7ad57c9dn84ddc09de90df618@mail.gmail.com>

Instead of trying out the mailing list this year, I opted for rss feed
- I believe Josh sent it out when the website was up.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Tom Allison <tom at tacocat.net> wrote:
> I'm a little surprised to find myself on the mailing list, two months
> after I signed up to the list and attempted to register.
>
> Only recently has enough information been readily available from the
> website to find all the answers to my employer to even begin trying to
> get this YAPC covered as a business trip.
>
> And with three days left to register for housing.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what happened to the overall process here, but this
> is not the same experience last time Chicago hosted YAPC or other cities
> that I have attended.  It was much better in the past.
>
> And yes, I can complain and outright bitch about this because right now
> I'm pretty certain I won't be able to make it to this convention in part
> to the lack of time available to organize.  Instead I'm trying to get
> someone else to go, if possible, who shall remain anonymous.
>
> To put it simply, for whatever reason(s), this year it's been a pretty
> poor registration process and in the future I'll be much less trusting
> fo the organizers to get their act together in a timely manner.
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From karen at hoofnagle.org  Wed May 28 10:13:17 2008
From: karen at hoofnagle.org (Karen Hoofnagle)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:13:17 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Discrepancy on room prices
Message-ID: <F0EA0B7B-1B4F-4831-A33D-65980E94EBA1@hoofnagle.org>

FWIW,  I just registered and the accommodations page lists a price of  
$60 a night for a single, but when I went to reserve a room, you're  
only charging $50 a night for a single.
Since I'm guessing you guys would have noticed if you were collecting  
too little money for rooms, I suspect the accommodations page needs to  
be updated to reflect the correct price.

Just trying to help,
Karen

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Wed May 28 10:50:29 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:50:29 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Discrepancy on room prices
In-Reply-To: <F0EA0B7B-1B4F-4831-A33D-65980E94EBA1@hoofnagle.org>
References: <F0EA0B7B-1B4F-4831-A33D-65980E94EBA1@hoofnagle.org>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805281050w2dc3506fj5ea16904712c6e5e@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for catching that, it was a mistake in the pricing on my end.
It should be fixed now.  The price is $60... everyone who already
registered just got a discount :)

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Karen Hoofnagle <karen at hoofnagle.org> wrote:
> FWIW,  I just registered and the accommodations page lists a price of
> $60 a night for a single, but when I went to reserve a room, you're
> only charging $50 a night for a single.
> Since I'm guessing you guys would have noticed if you were collecting
> too little money for rooms, I suspect the accommodations page needs to
> be updated to reflect the correct price.
>
> Just trying to help,
> Karen
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com  Wed May 28 12:24:49 2008
From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:24:49 -0400
Subject: [yapc] parking
Message-ID: <ccef7f7b0805281224q302444a7s1ffcb2acbbb84672@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

A quick inquiry about parking.  I see the $30 dollar option there.  Can
anyone tell me what dates is this parking valid?  Is this per day? Can I
assume its for the parking outside the dormitory?

Many thanks,
Dave Doyle

-- 
dave.s.doyle at gmail.com
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Wed May 28 13:23:29 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:29 -0400
Subject: [yapc] parking
In-Reply-To: <ccef7f7b0805281224q302444a7s1ffcb2acbbb84672@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ccef7f7b0805281224q302444a7s1ffcb2acbbb84672@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805281323l4adda631t87777cc1af5f0668@mail.gmail.com>

> A quick inquiry about parking.  I see the $30 dollar option there.  Can
> anyone tell me what dates is this parking valid?  Is this per day? Can I
> assume its for the parking outside the dormitory?

The $30 is a week long pass, with the week starting the first day that
you use the pass.

From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu May 29 06:53:47 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:53:47 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Discrepancy on room prices
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805281050w2dc3506fj5ea16904712c6e5e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F0EA0B7B-1B4F-4831-A33D-65980E94EBA1@hoofnagle.org>
	<49d805d70805281050w2dc3506fj5ea16904712c6e5e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0805290653r45507962r3a9d9d9c7241c6b0@mail.gmail.com>

I just went back and donated $10 per night extra for my stay in the dorms to
hit the $60 per night rate.  I encourage everyone staying in the dorms to
consider doing the same.  If not, TPF eats that cost.  I realize budgets are
tight, but if you're able to, please consider it.

Thanks,
Jeremy

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for catching that, it was a mistake in the pricing on my end.
> It should be fixed now.  The price is $60... everyone who already
> registered just got a discount :)
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Karen Hoofnagle <karen at hoofnagle.org>
> wrote:
> > FWIW,  I just registered and the accommodations page lists a price of
> > $60 a night for a single, but when I went to reserve a room, you're
> > only charging $50 a night for a single.
> > Since I'm guessing you guys would have noticed if you were collecting
> > too little money for rooms, I suspect the accommodations page needs to
> > be updated to reflect the correct price.
> >
> > Just trying to help,
> > Karen
> > _______________________________________________
> > yapc mailing list
> > yapc at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
> >
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu May 29 14:06:18 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:06:18 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
Message-ID: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>

Each year before YAPC::NA, it is a tradition for attendees to get
together and have dinner and a few drinks to kick the week off right.
This year, as in 2006, we will be having the dinner at Goose Island in
Wrigleyville (http://www.gooseisland.com/pubs/wrigleyville.asp). The
dinner is buffet-style, so you'll need to sign up at
http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Pre-Conference%20Dinner
now so that we know how much food to have prepared.

This dinner is not sponsored by the conference and typically costs in
the $30 range. As always, a cash bar is available :)

It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
(http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
 Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?

See you at YAPC,
Josh

From autarch at urth.org  Thu May 29 14:51:12 2008
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:51:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>

On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:

> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?

Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going 
elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have 
a car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.

I'll be getting to the dorms around 6PM or so, I expect.


-dave

/*==========================
VegGuide.Org
Your guide to all that's veg
==========================*/

From autarch at urth.org  Thu May 29 14:54:28 2008
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:54:28 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>

On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:

> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>
>> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
>> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
>> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
>> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
>> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
>
> Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going 
> elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have a 
> car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.

Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of 
massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.

But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the 
banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.


-dave

/*==========================
VegGuide.Org
Your guide to all that's veg
==========================*/

From matt at antitheoretical.org  Thu May 29 15:05:45 2008
From: matt at antitheoretical.org (Matt Reinhart)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:05:45 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <70388bd80805291505n4172a74eqd9f66c5b4a73d065@mail.gmail.com>

I second Dave's motion.  It would be great to see vegan food at YAPC gatherings.

-Matt

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>>
>>> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
>>> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
>>> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
>>> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
>>> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
>>
>> Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going
>> elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have a
>> car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.
>
> Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of
> massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.
>
> But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the
> banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From jason at froebe.net  Thu May 29 15:16:20 2008
From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:16:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
Message-ID: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's probably quite impossible for the organizers to find a place that would make everyone happy...  you could throw in any number of food preferences (Kosher, allergies, etc).  Perhaps a poll for the next YAPC requesting people's preferences?
 
Jason L. Froebe

WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com
Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog
Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com


The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored.


----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Reinhart <matt at antitheoretical.org>
To: yapc <yapc at pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:05:45 PM
Subject: Re: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner

I second Dave's motion.  It would be great to see vegan food at YAPC gatherings.

-Matt

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>>
>>> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
>>> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
>>> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
>>> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
>>> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
>>
>> Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going
>> elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have a
>> car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.
>
> Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of
> massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.
>
> But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the
> banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
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From autarch at urth.org  Thu May 29 15:27:59 2008
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:27:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>

On Thu, 29 May 2008, Jason L. Froebe wrote:

> It's probably quite impossible for the organizers to find a place that 
> would make everyone happy...  you could throw in any number of food 
> preferences (Kosher, allergies, etc).  Perhaps a poll for the next YAPC 
> requesting people's preferences?

Some things are easier than others. Offering vegan options at a banquet, 
especially if that banquet is a buffet, is rather trivial. Many common 
things can be made vegan easily (salad, bread, pasta dishes, rice dishes, 
stir-fry, etc). It's usually just a case of asking the caterers in 
advance, and making sure they understand the meaning of vegan.

Kosher, OTOH, has much, much stricter requirements about the kitchen. 
Allergies are sort of in-between, but it's not hard to make sure you have 
some gluten and nut free food, at least.

For the record, at Frozen Perl we provided vegetarian, vegan, and 
gluten-free meals as options, and it wasn't too much of a hassle to 
organize.

It would be _much_ easier if this was supported as part of the user 
profile in ACT, but I note that I haven't written that patch yet ;)


-dave

/*==========================
VegGuide.Org
Your guide to all that's veg
==========================*/

From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com  Thu May 29 15:21:04 2008
From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:21:04 +0000
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0BA6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com>

Maybe I just missed it, but does "before the conference" mean Sunday,
6/15 ?

This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use
of the intended recipients.  Please notify sender immediately if you
have received this in error.  Unauthorized interception of this e-mail
is a violation of federal criminal law.


-----Original Message-----
From: yapc-bounces+dan.ellenbaum=weatherinsight.com at pm.org
[mailto:yapc-bounces+dan.ellenbaum=weatherinsight.com at pm.org] On Behalf
Of Jason L. Froebe
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:16 PM
To: yapc
Subject: Re: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner

It's probably quite impossible for the organizers to find a place that
would make everyone happy...  you could throw in any number of food
preferences (Kosher, allergies, etc).  Perhaps a poll for the next YAPC
requesting people's preferences?
 
Jason L. Froebe

WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com
Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog
Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com


The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic
and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections,
allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of
TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any
official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely
coincidental, and should be totally ignored.


----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Reinhart <matt at antitheoretical.org>
To: yapc <yapc at pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:05:45 PM
Subject: Re: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner

I second Dave's motion.  It would be great to see vegan food at YAPC
gatherings.

-Matt

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>>
>>> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
>>> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those
people,
>>> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
>>>
(http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%2
0Dinner).
>>> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
>>
>> Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be
going
>> elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will
have a
>> car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.
>
> Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of
> massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.
>
> But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the
> banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
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From joey at joeykelly.net  Thu May 29 16:34:23 2008
From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:34:23 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <70388bd80805291505n4172a74eqd9f66c5b4a73d065@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
	<70388bd80805291505n4172a74eqd9f66c5b4a73d065@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200805291834.30277.joey@joeykelly.net>

On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:05:45 pm Matt Reinhart wrote:
> I second Dave's motion.  It would be great to see vegan food at YAPC
> gatherings.
>

No problem, we'll just set up an alternate venue and call it the 
Anti-Vegetable dinner :-)

Sigh... I'm the originator of the anti-arrival-dinner meme, but I can't attend 
YAPC this year, due to finances.


-- 
Joey Kelly
< Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant >
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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 17:18:39 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:18:39 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
	(Dave Rolsky's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 17:27:59 -0500 (CDT)")
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <x763swlk4g.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> writes:

  DR> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Jason L. Froebe wrote:
  >> It's probably quite impossible for the organizers to find a place that 
  >> would make everyone happy...  you could throw in any number of food 
  >> preferences (Kosher, allergies, etc).  Perhaps a poll for the next YAPC 
  >> requesting people's preferences?

  DR> Some things are easier than others. Offering vegan options at a banquet, 
  DR> especially if that banquet is a buffet, is rather trivial. Many common 
  DR> things can be made vegan easily (salad, bread, pasta dishes, rice dishes, 
  DR> stir-fry, etc). It's usually just a case of asking the caterers in 
  DR> advance, and making sure they understand the meaning of vegan.

i have worked on getting veggie/vegan fare at yapc events before. i
haven't been up to speed on this yet and i will do so very soon. my
life/work has been swamping me. i have always had special food needs
covered at the banquet (even kosher meals brought in as requested). the
arrival dinner is usually more informal and sometimes harder to get
special food needs covered. i will ask and report on what can be done.

thanx,

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 17:20:31 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:31 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0BA6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com>
	(Dan Ellenbaum's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 22:21:04 +0000")
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0BA6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com>
Message-ID: <x71w3klk1c.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "ED" == Ellenbaum, Dan <Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com> writes:

  ED> Maybe I just missed it, but does "before the conference" mean Sunday,
  ED> 6/15 ?

yes. more info will be posted here and on the wiki soon.

and please top post and edit quoted emails. a one line question
with an 85 line bottome quote with multiple sigs is a bit much.

thanx,

uri

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From diona at knowmad.com  Thu May 29 17:30:59 2008
From: diona at knowmad.com (Diona Kidd)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:30:59 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com>

It sounds like we need a vegan and vegetarian organizer. Although I'm
a foodie myself, I would still find this to be a challenge. I would
love to pick up a conversation on 'why vegan' but that's a discussion
for the conference between talks. I'm defiantly interested. Catch me
at the conference.

Kosher is challenging for our Jewish attendees. If anyone in the area
can suggest kosher restaurants in the area, that would be fabulous! I
have a friend that I will be meeting for dinner who requires kosher.
It would be helpful to have this on the wiki.

Dorms are notoriously problematic so I'm staying at the Hotel. I hope
the neighborhood in Chicago has improved, as has been posted. It was
super scary last time and I'm still waiting on my t-shirt "I
survived". Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. ;)

Don't forget to buy your favorite Perl celeb at the auction (if this
is done this year)! The auction is a great fund-raising opportunity
for the Perl foundation. The conference is really inexpensive and the
auction is a great forum to give back to the community!

Kind regards,

Diona Kidd
-----
Knowmad Technologies
http://www.knowmad.com


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Jason L. Froebe wrote:
>
>> It's probably quite impossible for the organizers to find a place that
>> would make everyone happy...  you could throw in any number of food
>> preferences (Kosher, allergies, etc).  Perhaps a poll for the next YAPC
>> requesting people's preferences?
>
> Some things are easier than others. Offering vegan options at a banquet,
> especially if that banquet is a buffet, is rather trivial. Many common
> things can be made vegan easily (salad, bread, pasta dishes, rice dishes,
> stir-fry, etc). It's usually just a case of asking the caterers in
> advance, and making sure they understand the meaning of vegan.
>
> Kosher, OTOH, has much, much stricter requirements about the kitchen.
> Allergies are sort of in-between, but it's not hard to make sure you have
> some gluten and nut free food, at least.
>
> For the record, at Frozen Perl we provided vegetarian, vegan, and
> gluten-free meals as options, and it wasn't too much of a hassle to
> organize.
>
> It would be _much_ easier if this was supported as part of the user
> profile in ACT, but I note that I haven't written that patch yet ;)
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From iank at cpan.org  Thu May 29 18:33:04 2008
From: iank at cpan.org (Ian Kilgore)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:33:04 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <x71w3klk1c.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0BA6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com>
	<x71w3klk1c.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
Message-ID: <20080530013304.GL2575@iank.org>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:20:31PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> yes. more info will be posted here and on the wiki soon.
> 
> and please top post and edit quoted emails. a one line question
> with an 85 line bottome quote with multiple sigs is a bit much.
> 
> thanx,
> 
> uri

Not that I mean to bring up this old flamewar, but ITYM bottom post,
given the last two emails you sent to the list..
-- 
Ian Kilgore
print/42;       # n/,"Just another Perl hacker,\n"
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu May 29 18:36:38 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:36:38 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
	<860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805291836g1c2dafccxf3ec103d37f4ce31@mail.gmail.com>

> Kosher is challenging for our Jewish attendees. If anyone in the area
> can suggest kosher restaurants in the area, that would be fabulous! I
> have a friend that I will be meeting for dinner who requires kosher.
> It would be helpful to have this on the wiki.

Yaakov raves over the Slice of Life in Sokie, a Chicago suburb.
That's where we ordered in the Kosher banquet food in from in 2k6.

> Dorms are notoriously problematic so I'm staying at the Hotel. I hope
> the neighborhood in Chicago has improved, as has been posted. It was
> super scary last time and I'm still waiting on my t-shirt "I
> survived". Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. ;)

Super scary :)  I don't know if it was really that bad, but even if it
was, it should be better now.  There is a big reconstruction effort
around the campus.  They have torn down a lot of the rougher stuff and
haver started construction on relatively expensive townhomes.

> Don't forget to buy your favorite Perl celeb at the auction (if this
> is done this year)! The auction is a great fund-raising opportunity
> for the Perl foundation. The conference is really inexpensive and the
> auction is a great forum to give back to the community!

Absolutely.  There will be an auction this year and hopefully some
celebs will go on the block.

Also, if you are job hunting, don't forget to bring your resume for
the job fair and expo on Tuesday!

From chromatic at wgz.org  Thu May 29 18:52:06 2008
From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:52:06 -0700
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805291836g1c2dafccxf3ec103d37f4ce31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49d805d70805291836g1c2dafccxf3ec103d37f4ce31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200805291852.06276.chromatic@wgz.org>

On Thursday 29 May 2008 18:36:38 Joshua McAdams wrote:

> Super scary :) ?I don't know if it was really that bad, but even if it
> was, it should be better now.

This one big guy with a Boston accent and a beard scared even me, but that was 
at the restaurant during the auction and not on the campus.

-- c

From karen.cravens at gmail.com  Thu May 29 18:54:47 2008
From: karen.cravens at gmail.com (Karen)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:54:47 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <200805291834.30277.joey@joeykelly.net>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Joey Kelly <joey at joeykelly.net> wrote:
> Sigh... I'm the originator of the anti-arrival-dinner meme, but I can't attend
> YAPC this year, due to finances.

Clearly, we're going to have to have some kind of
anti-anti-arrival-dinner virtual event.

Or, heck, an anti-YAPC virtual event.

From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu May 29 19:26:33 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:26:33 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <7cc7c1ce0805291854t223ef88aj9fa5cfce90022a04@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Karen <karen.cravens at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Clearly, we're going to have to have some kind of
> anti-anti-arrival-dinner virtual event.


Since I'm arriving late on Monday, I'll be having a post-pre-arrival
dinner.  Any takers? ;-)  I'm sure there will be some good stuff going on
when I get there Monday.

Jeremy
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From waltman at pobox.com  Thu May 29 20:24:59 2008
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:24:59 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:18:39PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> i have worked on getting veggie/vegan fare at yapc events before.

Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be happy if
there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't greasy
and/or deep fried.


From mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk  Thu May 29 20:50:08 2008
From: mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk (Matt S Trout)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 04:50:08 +0100
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:54:47PM -0500, Karen wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Joey Kelly <joey at joeykelly.net> wrote:
> > Sigh... I'm the originator of the anti-arrival-dinner meme, but I can't attend
> > YAPC this year, due to finances.
> 
> Clearly, we're going to have to have some kind of
> anti-anti-arrival-dinner virtual event.
> 
> Or, heck, an anti-YAPC virtual event.

Isn't there already a concrete one called OSCON?

-- 
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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 21:04:44 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:04:44 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <20080530032459.GG1902@mawode.com>
	(Walt Mankowski's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 23:24:59 -0400")
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>>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski <waltman at pobox.com> writes:

  WM> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:18:39PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
  >> i have worked on getting veggie/vegan fare at yapc events before.

  WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be happy if
  WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't greasy
  WM> and/or deep fried.

i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the gooseisland
people tomorrow.

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 21:06:06 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:06:06 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <20080530013304.GL2575@iank.org>
	(Ian Kilgore's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 21:33:04 -0400")
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0BA6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com>
	<x71w3klk1c.fsf@mail.sysarch.com> <20080530013304.GL2575@iank.org>
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>>>>> "IK" == Ian Kilgore <iank at cpan.org> writes:

  IK> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:20:31PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
  >> yes. more info will be posted here and on the wiki soon.
  >> 
  >> and please top post and edit quoted emails. a one line question
  >> with an 85 line bottome quote with multiple sigs is a bit much.
  >> 
  >> thanx,
  >> 
  >> uri

  IK> Not that I mean to bring up this old flamewar, but ITYM bottom post,
  IK> given the last two emails you sent to the list..

yes. given the moving of my wife's cocoa company today i can be excused
for reversing top and bottom. much of the day i didn't know right from
left! :)

thanx,

uri

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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu May 29 21:07:36 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:07:36 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <x7iqwwh1yb.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
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>  WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be happy if
>  WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't greasy
>  WM> and/or deep fried.
>
> i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the gooseisland
> people tomorrow.

Goose Island is a brewery.... isn't beer vegan :)

In all seriousness, if there is a vegan contingent that will show for
the pre-conference dinner we will try to make it happen.... updates
coming soon.

From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 21:08:13 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:13 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <200805291852.06276.chromatic@wgz.org>
	(chromatic@wgz.org's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 18:52:06 -0700")
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>>>>> "c" == chromatic  <chromatic at wgz.org> writes:

  c> On Thursday 29 May 2008 18:36:38 Joshua McAdams wrote:
  >> Super scary :) ?I don't know if it was really that bad, but even if it
  >> was, it should be better now.

  c> This one big guy with a Boston accent and a beard scared even me,
  c> but that was at the restaurant during the auction and not on the
  c> campus.

hey, i was born and raised in brooklyn and don't have a true boston
accent!! i just picked up some local phrasing and stuff over the long
time i have lived here.

maybe i should auction off the secret of your real name? that might
raise $2 for TPF! :)

uri

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Thu May 29 21:08:54 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:54 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <7cc7c1ce0805291854t223ef88aj9fa5cfce90022a04@mail.gmail.com>
	(karen.cravens@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 20:54:47 -0500")
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	<7cc7c1ce0805291854t223ef88aj9fa5cfce90022a04@mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>> "K" == Karen  <karen.cravens at gmail.com> writes:

  K> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Joey Kelly <joey at joeykelly.net> wrote:
  >> Sigh... I'm the originator of the anti-arrival-dinner meme, but I can't attend
  >> YAPC this year, due to finances.

  K> Clearly, we're going to have to have some kind of
  K> anti-anti-arrival-dinner virtual event.

  K> Or, heck, an anti-YAPC virtual event.

i refuse to have dinner with anyone who wants to have dinner with me!

uri

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From ingy at ttul.org  Thu May 29 21:27:51 2008
From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:27:51 -0700
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <x7abi8h1si.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
References: <200805291852.06276.chromatic@wgz.org>
	<x7abi8h1si.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
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On 30/05/08 00:08 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
> >>>>> "c" == chromatic  <chromatic at wgz.org> writes:
> 
>   c> On Thursday 29 May 2008 18:36:38 Joshua McAdams wrote:
>   >> Super scary :) ?I don't know if it was really that bad, but even if it
>   >> was, it should be better now.
> 
>   c> This one big guy with a Boston accent and a beard scared even me,
>   c> but that was at the restaurant during the auction and not on the
>   c> campus.
> 
> hey, i was born and raised in brooklyn and don't have a true boston
> accent!! i just picked up some local phrasing and stuff over the long
> time i have lived here.
> 
> maybe i should auction off the secret of your real name? that might
> raise $2 for TPF! :)

I heard it was C H Romatic. Not sure what the C H stands for. Cuddly Hacker?

> 
> uri
> 
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From rcaputo at pobox.com  Thu May 29 21:33:40 2008
From: rcaputo at pobox.com (Rocco Caputo)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:33:40 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805292107x3918b9elfd62dda2668d3f9c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On May 30, 2008, at 00:07, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>> WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be  
>> happy if
>> WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't  
>> greasy
>> WM> and/or deep fried.
>>
>> i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the  
>> gooseisland
>> people tomorrow.
>
> Goose Island is a brewery.... isn't beer vegan :)

Depends whether it's made with murder!  http://www.veganconnection.com/notvegan.html

-- 
Rocco Caputo - rcaputo at pobox.com

From autarch at urth.org  Thu May 29 21:56:38 2008
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:56:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
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On Fri, 30 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>>  WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be happy if
>>  WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't greasy
>>  WM> and/or deep fried.
>>
>> i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the gooseisland
>> people tomorrow.
>
> Goose Island is a brewery.... isn't beer vegan :)
>
> In all seriousness, if there is a vegan contingent that will show for
> the pre-conference dinner we will try to make it happen.... updates
> coming soon.

Well, as I said in my original reply to myself, I don't really care that 
much since I don't like huge crowds, nor do I drink beer, so that 
particular venue isn't all that interesting to me.

I was just grumpy because of pain and lack of sleep.

As someone pointed out, they do have a few vegan things available, so it'd 
probably work for people who like large crowds and beer. I'm pretty sure 
I'll be going to Soul Vegetarian, though, which is the greatest restaurant 
of all time, and my favorite thing in Chicago by far.


-dave

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From ingy at ttul.org  Thu May 29 21:56:53 2008
From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:53 -0700
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <9E57D29A-C205-4A73-9375-ABF6DCB95B30@pobox.com>
References: <49d805d70805292107x3918b9elfd62dda2668d3f9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<9E57D29A-C205-4A73-9375-ABF6DCB95B30@pobox.com>
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On 30/05/08 00:33 -0400, Rocco Caputo wrote:
> On May 30, 2008, at 00:07, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> 
> >> WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be  
> >> happy if
> >> WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't  
> >> greasy
> >> WM> and/or deep fried.
> >>
> >> i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the  
> >> gooseisland
> >> people tomorrow.
> >
> > Goose Island is a brewery.... isn't beer vegan :)
> 
> Depends whether it's made with murder!  http://www.veganconnection.com/notvegan.html

    Heifer whines could be human cries

> -- 
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From jason at froebe.net  Fri May 30 05:41:03 2008
From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 05:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
Message-ID: <681278.98070.qm@web804.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

and here I thought Al Capone was being referenced by the murder... this being Chicago ;-)
 
Jason L. Froebe

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----- Original Message ----
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To: Rocco Caputo <rcaputo at pobox.com>
Cc: yapc at pm.org
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:56:53 PM
Subject: Re: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner

On 30/05/08 00:33 -0400, Rocco Caputo wrote:
> On May 30, 2008, at 00:07, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> 
> >> WM> Something veggie/vegan would be nice, but personally I'd be  
> >> happy if
> >> WM> there was at least something on the buffet line that wasn't  
> >> greasy
> >> WM> and/or deep fried.
> >>
> >> i will attempt to address that as well. i should talk to the  
> >> gooseisland
> >> people tomorrow.
> >
> > Goose Island is a brewery.... isn't beer vegan :)
> 
> Depends whether it's made with murder!  http://www.veganconnection.com/notvegan.html

    Heifer whines could be human cries

> -- 
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From karen.cravens at gmail.com  Fri May 30 05:43:52 2008
From: karen.cravens at gmail.com (Karen)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:43:52 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <20080530035008.GQ30817@agaton.scsys.co.uk>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
	<70388bd80805291505n4172a74eqd9f66c5b4a73d065@mail.gmail.com>
	<200805291834.30277.joey@joeykelly.net>
	<7cc7c1ce0805291854t223ef88aj9fa5cfce90022a04@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080530035008.GQ30817@agaton.scsys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7cc7c1ce0805300543o467cd7d1n9431262c9862d774@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Matt S Trout
<mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Isn't there already a concrete one called OSCON?

Not for those of us who're skipping this year for financial reasons, no...

From grafumbly at nectarlab.com  Fri May 30 05:54:44 2008
From: grafumbly at nectarlab.com (Scott Sexton)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:54:44 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <43299c0d0805300554s36a7af0dya5d99c8e5b3896e9@mail.gmail.com>

Goose Island's Grilled Veggie Wrap and Veggie Burger (hold the cheese) are
vegan!

Both are delicious, by the way.

Additionally, here are some other favorite veggie places in town:
Alice & Friends Vegetarian Cafe - (vegetarian food made by some crazy
meditation cult) 5812 N Broadway
Green Zebra - (fine vegetarian dining) 1460 W. Chicago Ave
Handlebar - (all veg. and popular with bike messengers) 2311 W. North Ave
Veggie Bite - (fast-food vegan) 1039 N. Western Ave


~Scott Sexton

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> >
> >> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
> >> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
> >> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
> >> (
> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner
> ).
> >> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
> >
> > Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going
> > elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have
> a
> > car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.
>
> Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of
> massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.
>
> But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the
> banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
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From frag at ripco.com  Fri May 30 08:04:35 2008
From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805291836g1c2dafccxf3ec103d37f4ce31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291724420.11371@urth.org>
	<860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0805300953340.6798@shell3>


On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>> Kosher is challenging for our Jewish attendees. If anyone in the area
>> can suggest kosher restaurants in the area, that would be fabulous! I
>> have a friend that I will be meeting for dinner who requires kosher.
>> It would be helpful to have this on the wiki.
>
> Yaakov raves over the Slice of Life in Sokie, a Chicago suburb.
> That's where we ordered in the Kosher banquet food in from in 2k6.

Since then, these places have opened:
   http://www.yelp.com/biz/shallots-bistro-skokie
   http://www.yelp.com/biz/sandwich-club-skokie
   http://www.yelp.com/biz/zeldas-sweet-shoppe-skokie
   http://www.yelp.com/biz/taboun-grill-chicago

And there's this place, which has been around for a while:
   http://www.yelp.com/biz/da-nalis-cafe-skokie

-- Mike F.


From yapc at packy.org  Fri May 30 08:24:24 2008
From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:24:24 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
Message-ID: <200805301524.m4UFOOJ20765@invidia.vicetap.net>

> > Dorms are notoriously problematic so I'm staying at the Hotel.
> > I hope the neighborhood in Chicago has improved, as has been
> > posted. It was super scary last time and I'm still waiting on my
> > t-shirt "I survived". Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. ;)
>
> Super scary :) I don't know if it was really that bad, but even if
> it was, it should be better now.  There is a big reconstruction
> effort around the campus.  They have torn down a lot of the rougher
> stuff and haver started construction on relatively expensive
> townhomes.

Super-scary?  Oh, come on.  I stayed in the dorms in 2K6, and I didn't
think the neighborhood surrounding campus was scary at all.  Not a
high-rent district, but it seems like neighborhoods surrounding
college campuses seldom are.

Of course, my perspective may be skewed by being NYC-raised; my
personal definition of "bad neighborhood" is, perhaps, rougher than
most.

-packy

From szabgab at gmail.com  Fri May 30 09:01:32 2008
From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:01:32 +0300
Subject: [yapc] Test Automation using Perl - Master Class
Message-ID: <d8a74af10805300901h39d1c946x172ec385d3e08db5@mail.gmail.com>

As you might already know right after YAPC::NA on June 19-20
there are going to be four master classes you can choose from:

Intermediate Perl by brian d foy
Beginning Catalyst by Jonathan Rockway
System Administration by Jesse Trucks
Test automation using Perl by Gabor Szabo

Each class is two full days of training from 9am to 5pm.
The price for each class is $200.
You can register for the classes through The Perl Review:
https://www.theperlreview.com/cgi-bin/events.cgi

Master classes are extremely low cost versions of the full
courses taught by training organizations.


I can say a few words about the  "Test automation using Perl"
class I am going  teach.

First, you can read about it on my blog:
http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2008/05/1210708621.html

You can also look at the syllabus of the course:
http://www.pti.co.il/qa_automation.html

Originally it is a 3 day long course with approximately 50%
exercises. During the master class I am going to skip most of
the time allocated for exercises to have enough time to go over
all the material.
I expect that the students will do the exercises in the breaks or
in the evenings :-)

In the first part of the course I am teaching how to use
the test framework of Perl (Test::More and friends)
to test Perl modules.
In the second part I am using that knowledge to test all
kinds of other applications such as networking devices
(router, firewall etc), databases, file systems,
web applications and even desktop applications.

The interesting thing I noticed that in most of the classes I was teaching in
Israel people were more interested in the networking and system level stuff.
Most of the times they don't care about web applications and usually they
don't even know how they work.

On the other hand the last time I taught this course in Oslo, Norway
prior to the QA Hackathon, I had a totally different experience. Those people
knew a bit about networking but were not too interested. They were very
interested in testing web applications. So now I am adding more content
to show how to test a web application regardless in which language
it is written in.

If you are interested, please register now so we have
an estimation on how many people will attend.
You know, we need to print the materials in enough
quantity and stuff like that.

If you know others - even if they don't attend YAPC itself -
who should learn about Test automation - then please let
them know about the course.


BTW if you are interested in test automation, there are couple of
resource I created lately:

Test Automation Planet
   http://tap.szabgab.com/
   aggregating several blogs related to testing

Test Automation Tips
   http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html
   tips on test automation I am going to send out irregularly


regards
   Gabor

-- 
Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html
Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/

From hwigoda at mindspring.com  Fri May 30 10:00:35 2008
From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:00:35 -0500
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <43299c0d0805300554s36a7af0dya5d99c8e5b3896e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291653110.11371@urth.org>
	<43299c0d0805300554s36a7af0dya5d99c8e5b3896e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8066C4BF-D865-41F3-9468-E600A188CFF3@mindspring.com>

and the first vegan restauant in chicago,
in boys town
the diner on halstead.


On May 30, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Scott Sexton wrote:

> Goose Island's Grilled Veggie Wrap and Veggie Burger (hold the  
> cheese) are vegan!
>
> Both are delicious, by the way.
>
> Additionally, here are some other favorite veggie places in town:
> Alice & Friends Vegetarian Cafe - (vegetarian food made by some  
> crazy meditation cult) 5812 N Broadway
> Green Zebra - (fine vegetarian dining) 1460 W. Chicago Ave
> Handlebar - (all veg. and popular with bike messengers) 2311 W.  
> North Ave
> Veggie Bite - (fast-food vegan) 1039 N. Western Ave
>
>
> ~Scott Sexton
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Dave Rolsky wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> >
> >> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that  
> dislike
> >> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those  
> people,
> >> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
> >> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner 
> ).
> >> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?
> >
> > Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be  
> going
> > elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I  
> will have a
> > car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.
>
> Eesh, I shouldn't be so bitchy, especially since given my dislike of
> massive crowds I'm not sure I'd go anwyay.
>
> But it _would_ be really, really nice if there was vegan food at the
> banquet. Probably a little late to mention it, though.
>
>
> -dave
>
> /*==========================
> VegGuide.Org
> Your guide to all that's veg
> ==========================*/
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
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From John_Humanski at picis.com  Fri May 30 09:53:20 2008
From: John_Humanski at picis.com (John Humanski)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:53:20 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Test Automation using Perl - Master Class
In-Reply-To: <d8a74af10805300901h39d1c946x172ec385d3e08db5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d8a74af10805300901h39d1c946x172ec385d3e08db5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90C734C290F9234D881866F8C00938D965BB8E@PICISWFD-EXCHB.picis.com>

> Test automation using Perl by Gabor Szabo
> 

Several members of my team are already signed up for the Intermediate
Perl course.  At the time we were unaware of the Test automation course.
Josh, how can I transfer some of my team in the IP course to this
course?

John Humanski
Application Development Manager, Picis
Direct: 847 720 8461
Mobile: 630 362 9026
Fax: 847 518 9085
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri May 30 11:24:53 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:24:53 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Test Automation using Perl - Master Class
In-Reply-To: <90C734C290F9234D881866F8C00938D965BB8E@PICISWFD-EXCHB.picis.com>
References: <d8a74af10805300901h39d1c946x172ec385d3e08db5@mail.gmail.com>
	<90C734C290F9234D881866F8C00938D965BB8E@PICISWFD-EXCHB.picis.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805301124g130ccf10o29d938bfe6cd3218@mail.gmail.com>

> Several members of my team are already signed up for the Intermediate
> Perl course.  At the time we were unaware of the Test automation course.
> Josh, how can I transfer some of my team in the IP course to this
> course?

Hi John, there is a good chance that you can.  brian foy is handling
all of the organization and payments for those classes.  He and Gabor
(both on this email) can probably work something out.

From mpeters at plusthree.com  Fri May 30 12:56:52 2008
From: mpeters at plusthree.com (Michael Peters)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:56:52 -0400
Subject: [yapc] paying for others
Message-ID: <48405C04.4010001@plusthree.com>

I'm a speaker this year, but $work is also paying for 2 other folks to come as
well. I need to pay for 2 conference fees and 9 nights in the dorm. I'd like to
do it all at once just to make it easier on me and them (and our accounting folks).

I can make a donation for $740 but how will you know what it all means?

-- 
Michael Peters
Plus Three, LP


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri May 30 13:17:16 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:17:16 -0400
Subject: [yapc] paying for others
In-Reply-To: <48405C04.4010001@plusthree.com>
References: <48405C04.4010001@plusthree.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805301317r2349e118xd29935b9756a51a0@mail.gmail.com>

Just email me the info (email, t-shirt size) on the registrants and
nights in the dorms (i need that soon... I'm turning in the final
number in the next hour or so).  Then, go to donate.perlfoundation.org
and make a donation to YAPC Funds for the total amount.  That should
do the trick.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Michael Peters <mpeters at plusthree.com> wrote:
> I'm a speaker this year, but $work is also paying for 2 other folks to come as
> well. I need to pay for 2 conference fees and 9 nights in the dorm. I'd like to
> do it all at once just to make it easier on me and them (and our accounting folks).
>
> I can make a donation for $740 but how will you know what it all means?
>
> --
> Michael Peters
> Plus Three, LP
>
> _______________________________________________
> yapc mailing list
> yapc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>

From joshr-yapc at joshr.com  Fri May 30 13:29:17 2008
From: joshr-yapc at joshr.com (Josh Rabinowitz)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:29:17 -0400
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240805c4661375951e@[10.0.2.2]>

Shoot, I somehow didn't expect the cutoff to be 5PM CST (being in EST 
myself), so I'm missing the official deadline by 28 minutes.

Is it possible I can still get on-campus housing? It doesn't look 
like the website is directly accepting payment for housing anymore.

Thanks,
  Josh

At 12:50 AM -0500 5/27/08, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
>time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
>final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
>sign up before then.
>
>Also, if you want an on-campus credit account for food, please
>purchase it before the 30th.  Not having the card doesn't exclude you
>from having meals, but it does help the school plan out the number of
>people dining on-campus.  Also, all of the extra credit can be used to
>feed the post-YAPC hack-a-thons!
>
>http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase
>
>See you at YAPC::NA!
>Josh McAdams
>_______________________________________________
>yapc mailing list
>yapc at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc


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From steve at fisharerojo.org  Fri May 30 13:38:09 2008
From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:38:09 -0500
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <p06240805c4661375951e@10.0.2.2>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240805c4661375951e@10.0.2.2>
Message-ID: <fd7a59d30805301338t1a3abe53pe64e70c13fc54a68@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, its only 3:28 CDT.  I would be confused why you couldn't
still register now.

Steve

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Josh Rabinowitz <joshr-yapc at joshr.com> wrote:
> Shoot, I somehow didn't expect the cutoff to be 5PM CST (being in EST
> myself), so I'm missing the official deadline by 28 minutes.
>
> Is it possible I can still get on-campus housing? It doesn't look
> like the website is directly accepting payment for housing anymore.
>
> Thanks,
>  Josh
>
> At 12:50 AM -0500 5/27/08, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>>If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
>>time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
>>final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
>>sign up before then.
>>
>>Also, if you want an on-campus credit account for food, please
>>purchase it before the 30th.  Not having the card doesn't exclude you
>>from having meals, but it does help the school plan out the number of
>>people dining on-campus.  Also, all of the extra credit can be used to
>>feed the post-YAPC hack-a-thons!
>>
>>http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase
>>
>>See you at YAPC::NA!
>>Josh McAdams
>>_______________________________________________
>>yapc mailing list
>>yapc at pm.org
>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Josh Rabinowitz |   JOSHR Consulting   |     SkateboardDirectory.com
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri May 30 13:49:47 2008
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:49:47 -0400
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <48406588.9040108@gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240805c4661375951e@10.0.2.2> <48406588.9040108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70805301349n7d9e909dw85379642b7a4610b@mail.gmail.com>

5pm CST is my deadline... I'll open it back up for a little while
though... make those reservations now!

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Michael Peters
<michael00peters at gmail.com> wrote:
> Josh Rabinowitz wrote:
>> Shoot, I somehow didn't expect the cutoff to be 5PM CST (being in EST
>> myself), so I'm missing the official deadline by 28 minutes.
>
> Isn't 5PM CST == 6PM EST?
>
> --
> michael peters
>
> Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper
> or your self-confidence. - Robert Frost
>

From waltman at pobox.com  Fri May 30 14:14:50 2008
From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:14:50 -0400
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <p06240805c4661375951e@[10.0.2.2]>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240805c4661375951e@[10.0.2.2]>
Message-ID: <20080530211450.GK1902@mawode.com>

a) 5 PM CST == 6 PM EST, so you've still got about 45 minutes before
   the deadline.

b) I assume you both mean CDT and EDT, right?

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 04:29:17PM -0400, Josh Rabinowitz wrote:
> Shoot, I somehow didn't expect the cutoff to be 5PM CST (being in EST 
> myself), so I'm missing the official deadline by 28 minutes.
> 
> Is it possible I can still get on-campus housing? It doesn't look 
> like the website is directly accepting payment for housing anymore.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Josh
> 
> At 12:50 AM -0500 5/27/08, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> >If you are planning on coming to YAPC::NA and want to stay on campus,
> >time is running out for you to book your room.  We have to have the
> >final list into the University by 5pm CST on June 30th.... be sure to
> >sign up before then.
> >
> >Also, if you want an on-campus credit account for food, please
> >purchase it before the 30th.  Not having the card doesn't exclude you
> >from having meals, but it does help the school plan out the number of
> >people dining on-campus.  Also, all of the extra credit can be used to
> >feed the post-YAPC hack-a-thons!
> >
> >http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase
> >
> >See you at YAPC::NA!
> >Josh McAdams
> >_______________________________________________
> >yapc mailing list
> >yapc at pm.org
> >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc
> 
> 
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Josh Rabinowitz |   JOSHR Consulting   |     SkateboardDirectory.com
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From joshr-yapc at joshr.com  Fri May 30 16:19:37 2008
From: joshr-yapc at joshr.com (Josh Rabinowitz)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:19:37 -0400
Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA 2008 Last Call for On-Campus Housing
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70805301349n7d9e909dw85379642b7a4610b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70805262250w4daab201vf11b61c99952f959@mail.gmail.com>	
	<p06240805c4661375951e@10.0.2.2> <48406588.9040108@gmail.com>
	<49d805d70805301349n7d9e909dw85379642b7a4610b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240809c4663b57ee1c@[10.0.2.2]>

Thanks for reopening the room reservation system earlier, Josh McAdams.

And yes, Micheal Peters, you're right about the timezones, but the 
website had closed the room reservation system early (until Josh M 
reopened it -- I imagine it's been re-closed now).

Josh

At 4:49 PM -0400 5/30/08, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>5pm CST is my deadline... I'll open it back up for a little while
>though... make those reservations now!
>
>On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Michael Peters
><michael00peters at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  Josh Rabinowitz wrote:
>>>  Shoot, I somehow didn't expect the cutoff to be 5PM CST (being in EST
>>>  myself), so I'm missing the official deadline by 28 minutes.
>>
>>  Isn't 5PM CST == 6PM EST?
>>
>>  --
>>  michael peters
>>
>>  Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without 
>>losing your temper
>>  or your self-confidence. - Robert Frost
>>


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From uri at stemsystems.com  Fri May 30 21:26:52 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 00:26:52 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
	(Dave Rolsky's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 16:51:12 -0500 (CDT)")
References: <49d805d70805291406l1731997aw1fa9319b37994f28@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.0.9999.0805291648590.11371@urth.org>
Message-ID: <x7abi7xfn7.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> writes:

  DR> On Thu, 29 May 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote:
  >> It is also a tradition to have an anti-dinner for those that dislike
  >> the restaurant choice, don't like big crowds, etc.  For those people,
  >> feel free to join the Anti-Pre-Conference Dinner
  >> (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Anti-Pre-Conference%20Dinner).
  >> Nobody is organizing it yet.... are  you up for it?

  DR> Since, again, the dinner is at a place without vegan food, I'll be going 
  DR> elsewhere. I'm not really up for organizing anything big, but I will have 
  DR> a car, so I can take a few people wherever I go.

i just got the full buffet menu from goose island and i think we can
satisfy vegans just fine. i will double check on these things but i
think we get all of these appetizers which appear to be all vegan. and
we can order a tray (for 25 people) of mini roasted veggie sandwiches
too. 

the appetizers listed are these and all appear totally vegan:

	GOOSE ISLAND PUB CHIPS Our famous pub chips with our secret
	seasoning

	VEGETABLE FLATBREAD PIZZA Roma Tomatoes, Garlic, Eggplant &
	Olive Oil

	ASSORTED BAKED PRETZELS The perfect starter with a pint of our
	handcrafted beer! Classic Bavarian with D?sseldorf mustard &
	marinara sauce

	HUMMUS & FRESH VEGETABLE DISPLAY Assorted vegetables served with
	our homemade red pepper hummus

the selection of carnivore entrees are these (we will pick 2 of them. i
will wiki up a page for this and for the signups asap):

	TURKEY & HAM CLUBHOUSE Oven roasted turkey breast, ham, bacon,
	lettuce, tomato & Colby cheese

	CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS Served with an Asian plum sauce

	MINI CHEESE BURGERS Choice of: White Cheddar, American, Swiss or
	Pepper Jack

	MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES Slow roasted BBQ pulled pork
	covered with Honkers Ale BBQ sauce

	AWARD WINNING BUFFALO CHICKEN WINGS Crispy wings served with
	ranch dressing

this buffet is $21.95 pp plus the extra tray of roasted veggie
sandwiches ($130 for 25 people. we may be able to get a half tray if
there is less demand). with tax (dunno if any) and tip it will be around
$27+ and we ask for an even $30 (IN CASH!) to make life simple with any
profits going to yapc/tpf.

so when i get the wiki pages going please signup ASAP as we need a head
count and there are only 2 weeks left. i dunno the deadline for this but
i will find out monday. also vote for your carnivore entree selections
(pick two).

thanx,

uri, yapc socialist czar for life (someone PLEASE kill me! :)

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From uri at stemsystems.com  Fri May 30 21:57:26 2008
From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 00:57:26 -0400
Subject: [yapc] arrivals and departures
Message-ID: <x7wslbvznt.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>


as many of us will be flying/driving/swimming to yapc, we have arrival
and departure wiki pages. put your arrival/departure schedules (include
the airports and optional flight numbers). these pages are helpful to
hook up with fellow yapc'ers to share rides and transport to/from the
airports.

arrivals:

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir

departures:

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=DeparturesByAir

there are also pages for train and car travel linked from the wiki home
page:

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki

uri, yapc swimmer of car pools

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From zaz at mitre.org  Sat May 31 09:44:24 2008
From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:44:24 -0400
Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <200805301524.m4UFOOJ20765@invidia.vicetap.net>
References: <200805301524.m4UFOOJ20765@invidia.vicetap.net>
Message-ID: <F23269F15EAD9B4497D34CAC6C3212A65CBDA6@IMCSRV8.MITRE.ORG>

>Super-scary?  Oh, come on.  I stayed in the dorms in 2K6, and I didn't
>think the neighborhood surrounding campus was scary at all.  Not a
>high-rent district, but it seems like neighborhoods surrounding
>college campuses seldom are.

I think the correct idea is just to be ready to turn on your spiddy
sense, and if it seems like a questionable situation or that you should
leave quickly, get out of there... :)  (I only felt like that twice,
and that was when I was walking around beyond the campus by myself, but
that said, I had a great time in Chicago, and I'm looking forward to
going again... :) )

Cheers,
Zak