From yapc at packy.org Mon Jun 2 05:40:16 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:40:16 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lounges in MSV Message-ID: A quick question for Josh... will there be lounges in MSV with television sets available to the people staying there? The reason I ask is that my fianc?e's a professional theater actress, and Sunday night's the Tony Awards. She has teams she needs to root for. I mean, we'll probably have our DVR recording it, too, but she'd rather watch the game, er, ceremony live than watch it a week later when she already knows who won. Thanks! -packy -- Packy Anderson YAPC at packy.org You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets. -- Brigadier Lethbridge- Stewart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080602/132c116e/attachment.bin From waltman at pobox.com Mon Jun 2 08:07:07 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:07:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lounges in MSV In-Reply-To: <200806020930.04412.joey@joeykelly.net> References: <200806020930.04412.joey@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <20080602150707.GF4028@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:29:58AM -0500, Joey Kelly wrote: > On Monday 02 June 2008 07:40:16 am Packy Anderson wrote: > > A quick question for Josh... will there be lounges in MSV with > > television sets available to the people staying there? The reason I > > ask is that my fianc?e's a professional theater actress, and Sunday > > night's the Tony Awards. She has teams she needs to root for. > > > > There is at least one. I've added a Tony Awards BOF to the wiki... :) Walt From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 08:35:36 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:35:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] reminder to browse the wiki Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806020835y5a895653vcb6eb66a84e79f47@mail.gmail.com> Hey YAPC::NAers, According to dipsy (when I last checked), YAPC::NA 2008 starts in 13d 22h 8m 1s!!! I just wanted to send a reminder (especially to any yapc first-timers) to browse the wiki. There are several BOFson there as well as the pre-conferenceand anti-pre-conferencedinners. If your name's not on the pre-conference dinner list on the wiki, you won't be included in the "official" headcount for the dinner (and as Uri will tell you, this headcount is important!). There's also the arrivals by air and departures by air pages, as well asRoom sharing postings, the Thurs-Fri post-yapc Hackathon, and the Sat-Sun pre-yapc Parrot Hackathon. Another note to any first-time yapc attendees, the BOF schedule will likely start to become more structured (locations, days, and times added) during the first day, once people know where things are and have a better idea of thier schedules. See you in Chicago! Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080602/ebff3a82/attachment.html From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 08:45:32 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:45:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] leaving early, El advice Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> Since my flight leaves from Midway on Wednesday around 6:30a, I assume I need to get to the airport around 5:00a, which puts me leaving IIT around 4:00a, yes? I'll actually need to look at the schedules, but does anyone have any advice for taking the El that early? Green line's first train at 35th-Bronzeville-IIT is at 4:09a, while the Red Line at Sox-35th has one at 4:00a. Since the green line stop is on campus, I think I'd prefer to take it, vs. walking over to the red line. Thanks, Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080602/71b79a1b/attachment.html From merlyn at stonehenge.com Mon Jun 2 08:57:06 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:57:06 -0700 Subject: [yapc] leaving early, El advice In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> (Jeremy Fluhmann's message of "Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:45:32 -0500") References: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86hccbkey5.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Jeremy" == Jeremy Fluhmann writes: Jeremy> Since my flight leaves from Midway on Wednesday around 6:30a, Ouch. I have an 8am flight, and thought I was already in pain. My hat is off to you, sir. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 09:02:03 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:02:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] leaving early, El advice In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Since my flight leaves from Midway on Wednesday around 6:30a, I assume I > need to get to the airport around 5:00a, which puts me leaving IIT around > 4:00a, yes? I'll actually need to look at the schedules, but does anyone > have any advice for taking the El that early? Green line's first train at > 35th-Bronzeville-IIT is at 4:09a, while the Red Line at Sox-35th has one at > 4:00a. Since the green line stop is on campus, I think I'd prefer to take > it, vs. walking over to the red line. > > Thanks, > Jeremy At those hours for simplicity I'd suggest the Green line as the Orange line transfer is on the same platform on the next stop. The red line transfer is from the sub to the El, a pain with luggage. -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 09:16:21 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:16:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] leaving early, El advice In-Reply-To: References: <7f7c2d5e0806020845w7d9896cav5dab8200a3691c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806020916m7d07d852m7a8f8ecbd38837fd@mail.gmail.com> > At those hours for simplicity I'd suggest the Green line as the Orange > line transfer is on the same platform on the next stop. The red line > transfer is from the sub to the El, a pain with luggage. Agreed Green to Orange is the easiest transfer. The 9 minute difference in time shouldn't hurt you too much (you'd probably end up on the same Orange line train either way) and at that time of the morning, being at Midway an hour early should be fine... though I don't know the actual cut-off for checked baggage if you have it. From david at axiombox.com Mon Jun 2 10:21:54 2008 From: david at axiombox.com (David Moreno) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:21:54 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner In-Reply-To: <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1212427314.2011.5.camel@puerca> On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 20:30 -0400, Diona Kidd wrote: > It sounds like we need a vegan and vegetarian organizer. Although I'm > a foodie myself, I would still find this to be a challenge. I would > love to pick up a conversation on 'why vegan' but that's a discussion > for the conference between talks. I'm defiantly interested. Catch me > at the conference. > > Kosher is challenging for our Jewish attendees. If anyone in the area > can suggest kosher restaurants in the area, that would be fabulous! I > have a friend that I will be meeting for dinner who requires kosher. > It would be helpful to have this on the wiki. > > Dorms are notoriously problematic so I'm staying at the Hotel. I hope > the neighborhood in Chicago has improved, as has been posted. It was > super scary last time and I'm still waiting on my t-shirt "I > survived". Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. ;) > > Don't forget to buy your favorite Perl celeb at the auction (if this > is done this year)! The auction is a great fund-raising opportunity > for the Perl foundation. The conference is really inexpensive and the > auction is a great forum to give back to the community! What about some of the people following Halal and Haraam rules under the Shari'ah (Islamic Law) for food? D. From jgottshall at capwiz.com Mon Jun 2 10:10:46 2008 From: jgottshall at capwiz.com (Jason Gottshall) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:10:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] O'Hare or Midway? Message-ID: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Given similar ticket prices and arrival times, are there any other factors I should consider when choosing whether to fly into O'Hare or Midway on Sunday evening? Jason From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 10:14:15 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:14:15 -0500 Subject: [yapc] O'Hare or Midway? In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Jason Gottshall wrote: > Given similar ticket prices and arrival times, are there any other > factors I should consider when choosing whether to fly into O'Hare or > Midway on Sunday evening? > > Jason Midway is closer. Other than that, I cannot think of anything that'd sway my choices. -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From autarch at urth.org Mon Jun 2 10:18:27 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:18:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] O'Hare or Midway? In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Jason Gottshall wrote: > Given similar ticket prices and arrival times, are there any other > factors I should consider when choosing whether to fly into O'Hare or > Midway on Sunday evening? Midway is a lot closer to the conference venue. Also, my experience with Midway is that going through security is amazingly quick at non-peak times. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 10:27:12 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:27:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner In-Reply-To: <1212427314.2011.5.camel@puerca> References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com> <1212427314.2011.5.camel@puerca> Message-ID: <49d805d70806021027s35af901g815129f3d0f4afcc@mail.gmail.com> > What about some of the people following Halal and Haraam rules under the > Shari'ah (Islamic Law) for food? It looks like breads, milk products, fish, and fresh and frozen vegetables are Halal, so there should be something within the rules. The red meat rules are a little trickier, so we probably won't be able to help out there. From frag at ripco.com Mon Jun 2 10:33:05 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:33:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conference Dinner In-Reply-To: <1212427314.2011.5.camel@puerca> References: <113991.65518.qm@web801.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <860f763b0805291730k337880d3kfb9b01e67c9ff6f9@mail.gmail.com> <1212427314.2011.5.camel@puerca> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, David Moreno wrote: > What about some of the people following Halal and Haraam rules under the > Shari'ah (Islamic Law) for food? If you're looking for restaurants, try the lists here: http://www.zabihah.com/lir.php?id=51 -- Mike F. From kswanson at watson.wustl.edu Mon Jun 2 11:06:23 2008 From: kswanson at watson.wustl.edu (Kenneth Swanson) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:06:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] O'Hare or Midway? In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04BF50D9@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <4844369F.5020701@watson.wustl.edu> It's been a few years since I've flown into Chicago, but the standard rule is that O'Hare is Huge and Busy, and Midway is less so on both fronts. So, unless you have a reason to go to O'Hare (closer to your final destination, connecting flights, etc.), it's probably easier to go through Midway. -Ken Jason Gottshall wrote: > Given similar ticket prices and arrival times, are there any other > factors I should consider when choosing whether to fly into O'Hare or > Midway on Sunday evening? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:58:22 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:58:22 -0700 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? Message-ID: I'll be arriving at 5am in MKE on Saturday June 14, renting a car and heading down to the pre-conference. Anyone need equipment (hubs, enet, power strips, other) pre-priority-mailed or schlepped over for the pre-hackathon, conference, or post-hackathon? Also, does anyone expect to videotape or audiotape the conferences, for those of us who want to attend multiple tracks and can't? Looking forward to seeing everyone and driving down 90-94 for the first time in about 20 years, Krishna Sethuraman From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 2 16:07:43 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:07:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> I might be able to supply some equipment too depending on what's needed (and i'm local). Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:58 PM, "Krishna Sethuraman" wrote: > I'll be arriving at 5am in MKE on Saturday June 14, renting a car and > heading down to the pre-conference. Anyone need equipment (hubs, > enet, power strips, other) pre-priority-mailed or schlepped over for > the pre-hackathon, conference, or post-hackathon? > > Also, does anyone expect to videotape or audiotape the conferences, > for those of us who want to attend multiple tracks and can't? > > Looking forward to seeing everyone and driving down 90-94 for the > first time in about 20 years, > Krishna Sethuraman > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 19:05:57 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:05:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806021905i7b5ca6catc50045ff9596f0c2@mail.gmail.com> > Also, does anyone expect to videotape or audiotape the conferences, > for those of us who want to attend multiple tracks and can't? We are working on video and audio recording options right now. If you have a camera that you could bring along, we'd appreciate it. Contact me off list if so. From jkeen at verizon.net Mon Jun 2 19:23:25 2008 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:23:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> References: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <46F6AAC2-E769-4A7D-8E73-AF75DDB17FF5@verizon.net> On Jun 2, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Tom Yarrish wrote: > I might be able to supply some equipment too depending on what's > needed (and i'm local). > Power strips and 3-prong extension cords are *always* in demand at an event like this. And, given the new luggage restrictions/charges on the airlines, it's likely that fewer people will be schlepping them on the plane. Thank you very much. jimk From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 2 20:54:14 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:54:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: <46F6AAC2-E769-4A7D-8E73-AF75DDB17FF5@verizon.net> References: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> <46F6AAC2-E769-4A7D-8E73-AF75DDB17FF5@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3D5C18CD-3A07-4F29-A496-3C5210FB0BCE@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I guess the other question would be when would you need them there, and when would you be done with them? I could ship stuff from my office, but I'd have to make arrangements for it to go back and forth. On Jun 2, 2008, at 9:23 PM, James E Keenan wrote: > > On Jun 2, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Tom Yarrish wrote: >> I might be able to supply some equipment too depending on what's >> needed (and i'm local). >> > > Power strips and 3-prong extension cords are *always* in demand at an > event like this. And, given the new luggage restrictions/charges on > the airlines, it's likely that fewer people will be schlepping them > on the plane. > > Thank you very much. > jimk > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhEwGYACgkQZWzkfeDiTw6OSQCghjvX09DYjJPoV+CdU63iwQI4 rGoAn3CVfKcA2mAprus8ACQbqxQDaoDr =O+en -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 11:45:31 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:45:31 -0700 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: <3D5C18CD-3A07-4F29-A496-3C5210FB0BCE@yarrish.com> References: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> <46F6AAC2-E769-4A7D-8E73-AF75DDB17FF5@verizon.net> <3D5C18CD-3A07-4F29-A496-3C5210FB0BCE@yarrish.com> Message-ID: > I guess the other question would be when would you need them there, > and when would you be done with them? I could ship stuff from my > office, but I'd have to make arrangements for it to go back and forth. I can bring other equipment as well, but I was thinking it might make sense for me to donate some power strips and hubs, and have the organizers for this year box everything up at the end of the conference (or get help in doing so), hold onto it, and then ship it to whoever wins the bid for next year. In any case, count me in for some power strips. A 3-prong extension cord would be rather heavy to carry on, but I'll bring that too or I can even buy one when I'm there. I'd like to do my part to make sure the equipment needs are met, so if someone posts an equipment wishlist on the wiki somewhere, I'll put my name next to the necessary items and pri-mail them to whoever's willing to receive them so they're available before June 14 for planning and setup. Krishna From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 12:02:14 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:02:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] equipment wishlist -- hackathon/conf organizers, others? In-Reply-To: References: <2F1F9EE1-EC1A-4B9A-B989-80F78AC357F0@yarrish.com> <46F6AAC2-E769-4A7D-8E73-AF75DDB17FF5@verizon.net> <3D5C18CD-3A07-4F29-A496-3C5210FB0BCE@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806031202l7681e587j649d8cb10096ea50@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Krishna Sethuraman < krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com > wrote: > > I guess the other question would be when would you need them there, > > and when would you be done with them? I could ship stuff from my > > office, but I'd have to make arrangements for it to go back and forth. > > I can bring other equipment as well, but I was thinking it might make > sense for me to donate some power strips and hubs, and have the > organizers for this year box everything up at the end of the > conference (or get help in doing so), hold onto it, and then ship it > to whoever wins the bid for next year. This was discussed a little bit last year (the idea of having some sort of an "organizers kit"). Some people were for it, some people weren't. I'll add it as an item for discussion for the YAPC BOF. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <1f3113740806041841v65d2129y777e2219cbd8597a@mail.gmail.com> If so what kind of video connection will I need? Thanks, -- Clayton Scott clayton.scott at gmail.com From andrewrodland at comcast.net Wed Jun 4 19:07:41 2008 From: andrewrodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 21:07:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] First time speaker: Can I hookup my own laptop for presentations? Message-ID: <200806042107.41247.andrewrodland@comcast.net> On Wednesday 04 June 2008 08:41:36 pm Clayton Scott wrote: > If so what kind of video connection will I need? > > Thanks, Yes; and every time I've been, the projectors have run off of VGA. Andrew From will at coleda.com Wed Jun 4 19:11:57 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:11:57 -0400 Subject: [yapc] First time speaker: Can I hookup my own laptop for presentations? In-Reply-To: <200806042107.41247.andrewrodland@comcast.net> References: <200806042107.41247.andrewrodland@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3907b40a0806041911x277eb81fy377d1ccac766b773@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrew Rodland wrote: > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 08:41:36 pm Clayton Scott wrote: >> If so what kind of video connection will I need? >> >> Thanks, > > Yes; and every time I've been, the projectors have run off of VGA. > > Andrew Thanks for the reminder: I will attempt to remember to bring my two mac dvi to vga adapters for sharing. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From clayton.scott at gmail.com Wed Jun 4 20:31:53 2008 From: clayton.scott at gmail.com (Clayton Scott) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 23:31:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] First time speaker: Can I hookup my own laptop for presentations? In-Reply-To: <200806042107.41247.andrewrodland@comcast.net> References: <200806042107.41247.andrewrodland@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1f3113740806042031r11decfc7kaa79784086ec0ef4@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Andrew Rodland wrote: > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 08:41:36 pm Clayton Scott wrote: >> If so what kind of video connection will I need? > > Yes; and every time I've been, the projectors have run off of VGA. Just checking, thanks for the fact check. -- Clayton Scott clayton.scott at gmail.com From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 4 20:33:41 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:33:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner Message-ID: hi to all yapc::chicago, the arrival dinner signups are picking up. i count 29 now and we need 50 to guarantee the room. i am sure we will get it but the earlier the better so signup now at: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Pre-Conference%20Dinner and remember to vote for the choice of entrees (pick TWO). there are only a few voters there so no bitching about the food if you don't vote. the leaders right now are TURKEY & HAM CLUBHOUSE and CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS with 4 votes each. http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalDinnerMenu remember the presidential primary season is finally over so you can now focus your signature raising and voting skills on the arrival dinner! uri, campaign manager for the yapc arrival dinner. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joe at virtualmin.com Wed Jun 4 21:10:00 2008 From: joe at virtualmin.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:10:00 -0700 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48476718.2030901@virtualmin.com> Uri Guttman wrote: > and remember to vote for the choice of entrees (pick TWO). there are > only a few voters there so no bitching about the food if you don't vote. > the leaders right now are TURKEY & HAM CLUBHOUSE and CRUNCHY CHICKEN > SKEWERS with 4 votes each. So what's the word on vegetarian-friendly fare? (I'm not picky, just vegetarian.) From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 4 22:19:35 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:19:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner In-Reply-To: <48476718.2030901@virtualmin.com> (Joe Cooper's message of "Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:10:00 -0700") References: <48476718.2030901@virtualmin.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JC" == Joe Cooper writes: JC> Uri Guttman wrote: >> and remember to vote for the choice of entrees (pick TWO). there are >> only a few voters there so no bitching about the food if you don't vote. >> the leaders right now are TURKEY & HAM CLUBHOUSE and CRUNCHY CHICKEN >> SKEWERS with 4 votes each. JC> So what's the word on vegetarian-friendly fare? (I'm not picky, just JC> vegetarian.) well, i mentioned it before but you veggies need to be told this many times it seem (must be due to lacking of carnivore proteins! :). it appears that all the appetizers are veggie (even vegan) but i need to confirm this. and if there is demand we can order a tray (or half tray i was told) of grilled veggies wraps. most of the vegan types seem to be gravitating to dave rolsky's dinner group (also on the wiki) so i haven't seen a request for this yet. i have no problem ordering this dish for you if there is even a little more demand for it. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 11:25:33 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:25:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Absolutely last chance for on-campus housing Message-ID: <49d805d70806051125j28d2c69dree8682b16fc7f23d@mail.gmail.com> We have officially cut off on-campus housing purchases; however, I just talked with IIT and there are still a few rooms available. If you want on-campus housing and haven't booked it already please email me before noon CST this Friday (June 5th) and let me know what days you need housing. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 11:26:10 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:26:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Absolutely last chance for on-campus housing In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806051125j28d2c69dree8682b16fc7f23d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806051125j28d2c69dree8682b16fc7f23d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806051126h5ce73ce0ua57622f6ffe69400@mail.gmail.com> And by June 5th I meant June 6th. lly cut off on-campus housing purchases; however, I > just talked with IIT and there are still a few rooms available. If > you want on-campus housing and haven't booked it already please email > me before noon CST this Friday (June 5th) and let me know what days > you need housing. > From david at kineticode.com Thu Jun 5 11:46:56 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:46:56 -0700 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E79433F-55E2-49A8-B157-D9BB510471CB@kineticode.com> On Jun 4, 2008, at 20:33, Uri Guttman wrote: > and remember to vote for the choice of entrees (pick TWO). there are > only a few voters there so no bitching about the food if you don't > vote. > the leaders right now are TURKEY & HAM CLUBHOUSE and CRUNCHY CHICKEN > SKEWERS with 4 votes each. Geeze, those are the choices? I voted for only one; wings with ranch dressing just sounds, well, bleh? Thanks for organizing this, Uri, and putting up with our bitching. ;-) Best, David From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 5 20:05:42 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:05:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner status Message-ID: hi all, looks like my last spam caused more of you to signup and vote. we went from 29 to 37 and we need to get to 50 to get the room reserved. i fully expect that to happen but the sooner the better so we don't have any deadline issues (you need to have a solid headcount some time in advance). and the voting is moving forward. either plenty of new votes came in or someone fixed the formatting! as of now, CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS is in the lead with 12 votes and MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES is close behind with 10 votes. grilled obama is next followed by mccain clubs! so keep on signing up and voting! walk-ins are welcome but it is much better if you signup so we have a decently accurate headcount. this event is open to all so bring your family, enemies, pythonistas, entourage, groupies, etc. but SIGN THEM UP FIRST! uri, the yapc spammer in the canner! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From autarch at urth.org Thu Jun 5 20:50:48 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:50:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? Message-ID: I just noticed that YAPC is starting way earlier this year, with most talks starting at 8:15 instead of the traditional 9AM. I really hope that this is an ill-fated experiment for this year, never to happen again. I've been to one other conference that started this early, and it really was a problem, both because of lack of sleep, and because it just made the days too darn long. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From mgs at customvisuals.com Thu Jun 5 21:03:46 2008 From: mgs at customvisuals.com (Mike Schienle) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:03:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:50 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I just noticed that YAPC is starting way earlier this year, with most > talks starting at 8:15 instead of the traditional 9AM. > > I really hope that this is an ill-fated experiment for this year, > never to > happen again. I've been to one other conference that started this > early, > and it really was a problem, both because of lack of sleep, and > because it > just made the days too darn long. Since my work day usually starts at 6:00 am, I'm all for an early start :-) Mike Schienle From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 5 22:00:59 2008 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:00:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F448CAB-96D9-4478-A162-8BC335F8D97B@c2group.net> Hurrah! I just added two to the total. It would be 3, but I don't think I want to pay an extra $30 for my 12 week old son ;-) On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > hi all, > > looks like my last spam caused more of you to signup and vote. we went > from 29 to 37 and we need to get to 50 to get the room reserved. i > fully > expect that to happen but the sooner the better so we don't have any > deadline issues (you need to have a solid headcount some time in > advance). and the voting is moving forward. either plenty of new votes > came in or someone fixed the formatting! > > as of now, CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS is in the lead with 12 votes and > MINI BBQ > PULLED PORK SANDWICHES is close behind with 10 votes. grilled obama is > next followed by mccain clubs! > > so keep on signing up and voting! walk-ins are welcome but it is much > better if you signup so we have a decently accurate headcount. this > event is open to all so bring your family, enemies, pythonistas, > entourage, groupies, etc. but SIGN THEM UP FIRST! > > uri, the yapc spammer in the canner! > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com > -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, > Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html > --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com > --------- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 6 00:28:53 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:28:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner status In-Reply-To: <7F448CAB-96D9-4478-A162-8BC335F8D97B@c2group.net> (Kent Cowgill's message of "Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:00:59 -0500") References: <7F448CAB-96D9-4478-A162-8BC335F8D97B@c2group.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "KC" == Kent Cowgill writes: KC> I just added two to the total. It would be 3, but I don't think I KC> want to pay an extra $30 for my 12 week old son ;-) he is free unless he gets covered in bbq sauce. then we get charged for another entree! :) uri, the consumer of chargrilled spawn. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From petek at bsod.net Fri Jun 6 09:02:25 2008 From: petek at bsod.net (Pete Krawczyk) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? From: Dave Rolsky Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:50:48 -0500 (CDT) }I just noticed that YAPC is starting way earlier this year, with most }talks starting at 8:15 instead of the traditional 9AM. In 2006, we started at 8:30 and received no complaints. By starting at 8:15 instead this year, we were able to put another talk into the schedule each day. Personally, I don't see the downside. -Pete K -- Pete Krawczyk petek at bsod dot net http://www.petekrawczyk.com/ From mpeters at plusthree.com Fri Jun 6 09:58:40 2008 From: mpeters at plusthree.com (Michael Peters) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:58:40 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48496CC0.9030009@plusthree.com> Pete Krawczyk wrote: > In 2006, we started at 8:30 and received no complaints. So next year, let's start at 7:45! > By starting at > 8:15 instead this year, we were able to put another talk into the schedule > each day. Personally, I don't see the downside. Not to be too picky, but I've never heard anyone complain about not having enough talks either. -- Michael Peters Plus Three, LP From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Fri Jun 6 10:21:59 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:21:59 +0000 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: <48496CC0.9030009@plusthree.com> References: <48496CC0.9030009@plusthree.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C07@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Pete Krawczyk wrote: > In 2006, we started at 8:30 and received no complaints. Michael Peters wrote: > So next year, let's start at 7:45! //murders all morning people!! Ugh, seriously, let's be inclusive and realize that some of us are zombies until the sun is at a higher point in the sky than 9 AM, whatever our ambulatory states might be! ;-) Anyway, *shrugs*, it's only for a few days...I like the idea of more classes to pick from. Just wanted to add my $0.02 *begrudgingly giving up grumbling* Looking forward to seeing y'all! Regards, Dan Ellenbaum Software Engineer Weather Insight, L.P. www.WeatherInsight.com 713-361-4965 Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. From yapc at packy.org Fri Jun 6 12:27:20 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:27:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? Message-ID: Pete Krawczyk wrote: > In 2006, we started at 8:30 and received no complaints. Michael Peters wrote: > So next year, let's start at 7:45! Dan Ellenbaum wrote: > //murders all morning people!! I'd help murder the morning people, but it's still a bit early in the day for me. ;) Has there ever been thought to adding more sessions AFTER the existing sessions, for us nocturnal perl hackers? I'll get up, but if I snore in the presentations I'm blaming Pete. -packy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080606/046af863/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 6 12:29:10 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:29:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D80200A-0A25-473C-96D5-67F2723B8055@petdance.com> On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > I'll get up, but if I snore in the presentations I'm blaming Pete. Personally, I'm glad someone's put together a YAPC at all. Thanks to all who took the reins on this and put it all together. Bravo. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 12:31:24 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:31:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806061231q459946ebud0aa7147013ef4b8@mail.gmail.com> > Has there ever been thought to adding more sessions AFTER the existing > sessions, for us nocturnal perl hackers? After-sessions are tricker because for the conference center regular hours are 8-5, so you have to pay extra (including staff overtime) for hours after 5. We might could do as late a 5:30 or 6 with minimal grief, but much later is difficult. From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Fri Jun 6 12:57:07 2008 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:57:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> 8:15 ?? GREAT, I get to sleep in. I normally get up at 4:30 EST. Bill Morris >>> On 6/6/2008 at 12:02 PM, in message , Pete Krawczyk wrote: Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? From: Dave Rolsky Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:50:48 -0500 (CDT) }I just noticed that YAPC is starting way earlier this year, with most }talks starting at 8:15 instead of the traditional 9AM. In 2006, we started at 8:30 and received no complaints. By starting at 8:15 instead this year, we were able to put another talk into the schedule each day. Personally, I don't see the downside. -Pete K -- Pete Krawczyk petek at bsod dot net http://www.petekrawczyk.com/ _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080606/d489be3c/attachment.html From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 6 13:07:57 2008 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:07:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806061231q459946ebud0aa7147013ef4b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806061231q459946ebud0aa7147013ef4b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <75F4EF80-A6C8-4673-A39F-EB43E52B9D42@mindspring.com> so how can i get parking? can i get the phone number of the office where i can order parking and pick it up next week at my leisure. I would want 5 days as i am planning to sign up for a master class... hal From gene at cpan.org Fri Jun 6 13:23:00 2008 From: gene at cpan.org (Gene Boggs) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:23:00 -0700 Subject: [yapc] YAPC Origins Message-ID: <20080606202300.GE68786@ology.net> * On 6-Jun-2008 at 1:04PM PDT, Andy Lester said: > Personally, I'm glad someone's put together a YAPC at all. > Thanks to all who took the reins on this and put it all together. > Bravo. > xoxo, > Andy That would be Kevin Lenzo. G From waltman at pobox.com Fri Jun 6 13:24:56 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:24:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] YAPC Origins In-Reply-To: <20080606202300.GE68786@ology.net> References: <20080606202300.GE68786@ology.net> Message-ID: <20080606202456.GI16842@mawode.com> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 01:23:00PM -0700, Gene Boggs wrote: > * On 6-Jun-2008 at 1:04PM PDT, Andy Lester said: > > Personally, I'm glad someone's put together a YAPC at all. > > Thanks to all who took the reins on this and put it all together. > > Bravo. > xoxo, > Andy > > That would be Kevin Lenzo. Kevin came up with the original idea for YAPC and organized the first few at CMU. But he hasn't been involved with it for quite a while now, at least not at the low-level planning of the events. All the credit for pulling together YAPC::Chicago goes to Josh and his minions. Walt From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 13:36:54 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:36:54 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking In-Reply-To: <75F4EF80-A6C8-4673-A39F-EB43E52B9D42@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70806061231q459946ebud0aa7147013ef4b8@mail.gmail.com> <75F4EF80-A6C8-4673-A39F-EB43E52B9D42@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806061336t4a60b3ffu8f488e5845266195@mail.gmail.com> Parking is a fixed fee of $30. That should cover you for your entire time at the conference and master classes. You can order it at the yapc website. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: > so how can i get parking? > > can i get the phone number of the office > where i can order parking > and pick it up next week at my leisure. > > I would want 5 days as i am planning to sign up for a master class... > > hal > > From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Jun 6 13:05:18 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:05:18 -0700 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> I'm usually at my desk by 7:00. It's the only way I can beat LA traffic. Cheers, Liz On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Bill Morris wrote: > 8:15 ?? GREAT, I get to sleep in. > > I normally get up at 4:30 EST. > > Bill Morris From leosusanto at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 15:41:50 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:41:50 -0700 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> References: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806061541x653efe1fkfbed8624e1269661@mail.gmail.com> Ya - but your bio clock would be 6:15PT when the conf starts. I think I should be fine since I wake up at 5 to catch metrolink anyway. On 6/6/08, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > I'm usually at my desk by 7:00. It's the only way I can beat LA > traffic. > > Cheers, > > Liz > > On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Bill Morris wrote: > >> 8:15 ?? GREAT, I get to sleep in. >> >> I normally get up at 4:30 EST. >> >> Bill Morris > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com From bradoaks at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 16:03:12 2008 From: bradoaks at gmail.com (Brad Oaks) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:03:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: <9f7f38940806061541x653efe1fkfbed8624e1269661@mail.gmail.com> References: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> <9f7f38940806061541x653efe1fkfbed8624e1269661@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: well, i have to wake up "in a foot of snow. up hill both ways." :) but seriously, thanks a ton to you all for organizing this year's conference. and for the ones that have gotten us to this point. it is a lot of work, and we appreciate it. --bradoaks From karen.cravens at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 16:04:47 2008 From: karen.cravens at gmail.com (Karen) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:04:47 -0500 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: References: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> <9f7f38940806061541x653efe1fkfbed8624e1269661@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7cc7c1ce0806061604r6dc3c416h3a93cc892b8c9a02@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Brad Oaks wrote: > well, i have to wake up "in a foot of snow. up hill both ways." :) You get to sleep? Luxury! From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 6 17:46:12 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:46:12 -0700 Subject: [yapc] 8:15? WTF? In-Reply-To: <7cc7c1ce0806061604r6dc3c416h3a93cc892b8c9a02@mail.gmail.com> (karen.cravens@gmail.com's message of "Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:04:47 -0500") References: <48495E5F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <77FB936D-1B5F-4591-BC50-DCE81D383AC7@mac.com> <9f7f38940806061541x653efe1fkfbed8624e1269661@mail.gmail.com> <7cc7c1ce0806061604r6dc3c416h3a93cc892b8c9a02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <868wxi5ay3.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Karen" == Karen writes: Karen> You get to sleep? Luxury! I'm allowed to sleep once a week, as long as it doesn't exceed 4 hours. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 6 17:51:54 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:51:54 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? Message-ID: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". WTF? 10? Just a warning to anyone else who thinks that the CTA might employ reasonable turnaround. I think I just wasted $18. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 17:58:46 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:58:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806061758s487a077dsb41b99bed15948e@mail.gmail.com> > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". > > WTF? > > 10? Wow, that is a WTF. Anyone who wants a pass send me a note, along with your address, over the weekend and I'll ship you a pass Monday morning. We can square up at YAPC (unless I get tons of requests... then I might ask you to paypal me). From aamills at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 18:28:32 2008 From: aamills at gmail.com (Adri Mills) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:28:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <69319ce80806061828r4e9f50a1uf3bcafc1220025f7@mail.gmail.com> For what it's worth, mine arrived five days later (which included Memorial Day weekend, so either 2 or 3 "working days", I guess). Adri On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". > > WTF? > > 10? > > Just a warning to anyone else who thinks that the CTA might employ reasonable > turnaround. I think I just wasted $18. From waltman at pobox.com Fri Jun 6 18:38:58 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:38:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <69319ce80806061828r4e9f50a1uf3bcafc1220025f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <69319ce80806061828r4e9f50a1uf3bcafc1220025f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080607013858.GE7958@mawode.com> Also FWIW, they can be purchased at the O'Hare CTA station. That's where I got mine 2 years ago. Since I'm going to be in Chicago 6 days this time, I think I'm going to try just getting a normal farecard. I'm guessing I'll probably end up spending about $18 either way. Walt On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 09:28:32PM -0400, Adri Mills wrote: > For what it's worth, mine arrived five days later (which included > Memorial Day weekend, so either 2 or 3 "working days", I guess). > > Adri > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > > > > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". > > > > WTF? > > > > 10? > > > > Just a warning to anyone else who thinks that the CTA might employ reasonable > > turnaround. I think I just wasted $18. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From aamills at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 18:49:15 2008 From: aamills at gmail.com (Adri Mills) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:49:15 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <20080607013858.GE7958@mawode.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <69319ce80806061828r4e9f50a1uf3bcafc1220025f7@mail.gmail.com> <20080607013858.GE7958@mawode.com> Message-ID: <69319ce80806061849o519bb92ci720d458332fdfaf2@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > Also FWIW, they can be purchased at the O'Hare CTA station. That's > where I got mine 2 years ago. Since I'm going to be in Chicago 6 days > this time, I think I'm going to try just getting a normal farecard. > I'm guessing I'll probably end up spending about $18 either way. > > Walt Yeah, I actually ordered a regular transit card myself, not a multi-day pass. I just figured it would be nice to already have it in hand rather than have to futz with cash upon arrival. (I guess as of March (?), the machine at the airport takes credit cards, but I wasn't aware of that at the time.) Adri From perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org Fri Jun 6 19:35:36 2008 From: perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 22:35:36 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20080607023536.GA13590@knight.local> * "Randal L. Schwartz" [2008-06-06T20:51:54] > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". I got mine within 4 days. -- rjbs From karen.cravens at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 20:24:17 2008 From: karen.cravens at gmail.com (Karen) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 22:24:17 -0500 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <7cc7c1ce0806062024u6edc39c9i5d7d1ed232878351@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". WTF indeed: I didn't know UPS even *had* a shipping method that took that long. From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 7 04:43:20 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:43:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <7cc7c1ce0806062024u6edc39c9i5d7d1ed232878351@mail.gmail.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <7cc7c1ce0806062024u6edc39c9i5d7d1ed232878351@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080607114320.GG7958@mawode.com> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:24:17PM -0500, Karen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > > Just ordered my CTA visitor pass, figuring a week would be sufficient. > > The confirmation said "this will be shipped by UPS within 10 working days". > > WTF indeed: I didn't know UPS even *had* a shipping method that took that long. That's because 10 working days is their *default* time to deliver anything. :) Seriously, given the gap between what the CTA is saying and what other people are reporting, I imagine their lawyers told them to overestimate the time to avoid being sued if it gets held up in the mail for a day or two. Walt From MichaelRWolf at att.net Sat Jun 7 09:50:50 2008 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:50:50 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? In-Reply-To: <69319ce80806061849o519bb92ci720d458332fdfaf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <864p865aol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com><69319ce80806061828r4e9f50a1uf3bcafc1220025f7@mail.gmail.com><20080607013858.GE7958@mawode.com> <69319ce80806061849o519bb92ci720d458332fdfaf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <031601c8c8be$a8f4dc20$650010ac@mlaptop> Two years ago, after my final trip, I handed my card to someone who was having trouble using the fare machines. They were obviously tourists, and their first experience on the rails was that much better for the gift. Pay it forward... -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+michaelrwolf=att.net at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+michaelrwolf=att.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Adri Mills > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:49 PM > To: yapc at pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] CTA visitor pass - 10 "working days" WTF? > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > > Also FWIW, they can be purchased at the O'Hare CTA station. That's > > where I got mine 2 years ago. Since I'm going to be in Chicago 6 days > > this time, I think I'm going to try just getting a normal farecard. > > I'm guessing I'll probably end up spending about $18 either way. > > > > Walt > > Yeah, I actually ordered a regular transit card myself, not a > multi-day pass. I just figured it would be nice to already have it in > hand rather than have to futz with cash upon arrival. (I guess as of > March (?), the machine at the airport takes credit cards, but I wasn't > aware of that at the time.) > > Adri > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From jkeen at verizon.net Sat Jun 7 13:55:25 2008 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:55:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA Travel Questions; Arrival at IIT Message-ID: <7BFA9A99-DED1-48D8-9E95-28A0DCF5ACBE@verizon.net> 1. Has the CTA finished all that construction on the Blue Line leading to O'Hare? (I recall transfer to a bus when I was in Chicago for the Hackathon last December.) 2. When I arrive next Sunday, I need to first get my dorm room, then go to early registration. a. Will dorm check-in be in the dorms we are using? (Or is there some central housing office where we have to go to first?) b. Where will early registration be, and during what hours? Thanks. jimk From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 14:01:47 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:01:47 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA Travel Questions; Arrival at IIT In-Reply-To: <7BFA9A99-DED1-48D8-9E95-28A0DCF5ACBE@verizon.net> References: <7BFA9A99-DED1-48D8-9E95-28A0DCF5ACBE@verizon.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, James E Keenan wrote: > 1. Has the CTA finished all that construction on the Blue Line > leading to O'Hare? (I recall transfer to a bus when I was in Chicago > for the Hackathon last December.) > > 2. When I arrive next Sunday, I need to first get my dorm room, then > go to early registration. > a. Will dorm check-in be in the dorms we are using? (Or is there > some central housing office where we have to go to first?) > b. Where will early registration be, and during what hours? I'm coming in to MKE at 5am, so I'll be on campus 7am-ish Saturday and have similar questions. It would be helpful to have this info in the wiki somewhere. Krishna From yapc at galumph.com Sat Jun 7 14:12:19 2008 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:12:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] CTA Travel Questions; Arrival at IIT In-Reply-To: <7BFA9A99-DED1-48D8-9E95-28A0DCF5ACBE@verizon.net> References: <7BFA9A99-DED1-48D8-9E95-28A0DCF5ACBE@verizon.net> Message-ID: <484AF9B3.2020901@galumph.com> James E Keenan wrote: > 1. Has the CTA finished all that construction on the Blue Line > leading to O'Hare? (I recall transfer to a bus when I was in Chicago > for the Hackathon last December.) No. What's going on varies weekend to weekend. It would be advisable to check on the status of the Blue/Red/Orange/Green lines (depending upon airport) at the official page next weekend: http://transitchicago.com/news/whatsnewa.wu From trey at lopsa.org Sat Jun 7 14:21:27 2008 From: trey at lopsa.org (Trey Harris) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Rental car: nice to have, or just a nuisance? Message-ID: In 2006, I didn't have a car, I flew into Midway, and stayed at the Club Quarters in the Loop. I didn't miss having a car--it would have been a nuisance, staying downtown--and the only time I even thought a car would have been handy was when I missed a couple talks I wanted to see because there were lunch excursions off campus that took too long by train. Now I work at a company that's booked me a rental car just as a matter of course. Since it's covered, cost isn't really a factor, and I certainly don't mind just parking it and leaving it, and still using the train when everybody else does. This time I'm flying into O'Hare and staying in the dorm. My flight arrives at 2pm on Sunday, and leaves at 12:30pm on Thursday, so traffic is probably going to be about as good as it ever is. So, what would folks recommend? Cancel the car, or keep it just in case it comes in handy? (I haven't seen the answer to the question about whether there's direct CTA from O'Hare, so I guess the answer to that will help answer this.) (And if I keep the car, do I need to buy new Chicago-area maps for my GPS for this trip? Its maps are about two years old.) Trey From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 16:24:58 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:24:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rental car: nice to have, or just a nuisance? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditch the car. Most anything you want to see or go will be accessible via the el or bus. On 6/7/08, Trey Harris wrote: > In 2006, I didn't have a car, I flew into Midway, and stayed at the Club > Quarters in the Loop. I didn't miss having a car--it would have been a > nuisance, staying downtown--and the only time I even thought a car would > have been handy was when I missed a couple talks I wanted to see because > there were lunch excursions off campus that took too long by train. > > Now I work at a company that's booked me a rental car just as a matter of > course. Since it's covered, cost isn't really a factor, and I certainly > don't mind just parking it and leaving it, and still using the train when > everybody else does. > > This time I'm flying into O'Hare and staying in the dorm. My flight > arrives at 2pm on Sunday, and leaves at 12:30pm on Thursday, so traffic is > probably going to be about as good as it ever is. > > So, what would folks recommend? Cancel the car, or keep it just in case > it comes in handy? (I haven't seen the answer to the question about > whether there's direct CTA from O'Hare, so I guess the answer to that will > help answer this.) > > (And if I keep the car, do I need to buy new Chicago-area maps for my GPS > for this trip? Its maps are about two years old.) > > Trey > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 17:31:08 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:31:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rental car: nice to have, or just a nuisance? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806071731t41ca14a6t13d3024958a70bf2@mail.gmail.com> Agreed. If you have a lunch excursion that is going to delay you getting back to campus, take a cab instead. The handful of cab rides will be considerably cheaper and less hassle than trying to keep up with a car. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Shawn Carroll wrote: > Ditch the car. Most anything you want to see or go will be accessible > via the el or bus. > > > On 6/7/08, Trey Harris wrote: >> In 2006, I didn't have a car, I flew into Midway, and stayed at the Club >> Quarters in the Loop. I didn't miss having a car--it would have been a >> nuisance, staying downtown--and the only time I even thought a car would >> have been handy was when I missed a couple talks I wanted to see because >> there were lunch excursions off campus that took too long by train. >> >> Now I work at a company that's booked me a rental car just as a matter of >> course. Since it's covered, cost isn't really a factor, and I certainly >> don't mind just parking it and leaving it, and still using the train when >> everybody else does. >> >> This time I'm flying into O'Hare and staying in the dorm. My flight >> arrives at 2pm on Sunday, and leaves at 12:30pm on Thursday, so traffic is >> probably going to be about as good as it ever is. >> >> So, what would folks recommend? Cancel the car, or keep it just in case >> it comes in handy? (I haven't seen the answer to the question about >> whether there's direct CTA from O'Hare, so I guess the answer to that will >> help answer this.) >> >> (And if I keep the car, do I need to buy new Chicago-area maps for my GPS >> for this trip? Its maps are about two years old.) >> >> Trey >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > > -- > shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com > Perl Programmer > Soccer Referee > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 19:46:21 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:46:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Remember the YAPC::NA Job Fair and Expo on June 17th! Message-ID: <49d805d70806071946nbed486du9777df597f09adb1@mail.gmail.com> If you are attending YAPC::NA 2008 and are interested in finding a new job, then polish up your resume and take a few minutes to stop by our annual YAPC::NA Job Fair and Expo. At the job fair you'll find great companies actively seeking Perl talent like you, as well as, many other Perl-based companies showing off their wares. Join us in the main lobby of the conference center from 1pm until 5pm CST on June 17th and talk with representatives from companies like Summersault, Grant Street Group, CarSpot, Where2GetIt, Virtualmin, PlainBlack, Experian CheetahMail, DWR Trading, Whitepages, and LiveText. See you there, Josh From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 7 20:03:51 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:03:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Rental car: nice to have, or just a nuisance? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080608030351.GL7958@mawode.com> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:21:27PM -0400, Trey Harris wrote: > (I haven't seen the answer to the question about > whether there's direct CTA from O'Hare, so I guess the answer to that will > help answer this.) There's not a direct connetion from O'Hare to IIT; you've got to switch trains in the Loop. To get to IIT from O'Hare, you take the blue line to the Clark and Lake station, transfer to the Green Line south, and take that to the Bronzeville/IIT station. For future reference, travel directions to IIT are all under the "Travel" link on the website, which takes you to http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/travel.html Walt From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 20:19:18 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:19:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] New YAPC::NA Feature: Workshops Message-ID: <49d805d70806072019kaa09d62k83e7cfccd216b19@mail.gmail.com> This year at YAPC::NA we are experimenting with a new form of talk that is part presentation and part hackathon. We are having four extended workshops during the conference where attendees are invited to bring their computers along and experience an in-depth and very likely hands-on session where they will leave the conference not just thinking about new technologies, but actually having worked with them. To kick things off on Tuesday, JT Smith is hosting a WebGUI Workshop [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1243]. During the workshop, each attendee will install WebGUI, browse through the interface, and learn how to write custom plug-ins. This is a hands-on workshop that will show you just how easy and fun it can be to write powerful web applications in WebGUI. This is a great workshop that typically costs hundreds of dollars at the WebGUI conference, but is being offered free to any YAPC::NA attendee who wants to take advantage of it. After that, Matt Trout is going to follow up with another web development tutorial, Catalyst: 21st Century Perl Web Development [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1327]. This tutorial will get you up to speed on what you need to get started building powerful web applications with the Catalyst web framework. Catalyst is a powerful and flexible web framework that rivals systems like Ruby on Rails and Django, only in our favorite language, Perl! The next day, Stevan Little will be giving a Moose Tutorial [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1062]. This two hour session will get you up and running with Perl's post-modern object system. Moose adds a powerful and fun object system to Perl 5 that is inspired by Common LISP, Smalltalk, and Perl 6. You don't want to miss this session. And finally, the Parrot and Perl6 developers are getting together for a Parrot and Perl 6 Workshop [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1078]. Come to this session laptop in hand and leave with a working version of Parrot and Rakudo (Perl 6 on Parrot). This workshop was the catalyst for having the workshop session this year and from the chatter that I've seen on the planning list, will be a "can't miss" event for those interested in the next iteration of the Perl programming language. So there you have it, four sessions of in-depth technology that are guaranteed to make it more difficult for you to decide on what talk to go to this YAPC::NA. From jkeen at verizon.net Sun Jun 8 07:55:33 2008 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:55:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] New YAPC::NA Feature: Workshops In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806072019kaa09d62k83e7cfccd216b19@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806072019kaa09d62k83e7cfccd216b19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > [snip] > And finally, the Parrot and Perl6 developers are getting together for > a Parrot and Perl 6 Workshop > [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1078]. Come to this > session laptop in hand and leave with a working version of Parrot and > Rakudo (Perl 6 on Parrot). Apropos this workshop, I have opened a page on the YAPC::NA::2008 Wiki to provide a more complete description of this workshop: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Parrot%20and%20Perl% 206%20Workshop Jim Keenan From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Sun Jun 8 12:05:53 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:05:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> Am I understanding that the yapc2008 is just 100 dollars for the Monday-Wednesday? Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! Darcy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM, wrote: > Send yapc mailing list submissions to > yapc at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > yapc-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > yapc-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of yapc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New YAPC::NA Feature: Workshops (James E Keenan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:55:33 -0400 > From: James E Keenan > Subject: Re: [yapc] New YAPC::NA Feature: Workshops > To: yapc > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > And finally, the Parrot and Perl6 developers are getting together for > > a Parrot and Perl 6 Workshop > > [http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1078]. Come to this > > session laptop in hand and leave with a working version of Parrot and > > Rakudo (Perl 6 on Parrot). > > Apropos this workshop, I have opened a page on the YAPC::NA::2008 > Wiki to provide a more complete description of this workshop: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Parrot%20and%20Perl% > 206%20Workshop > > Jim Keenan > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > End of yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 > ************************************ > -- Darcy Whyte Darcy at Siteware.com 613-563-3634 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080608/a4db5e0e/attachment.html From waltman at pobox.com Sun Jun 8 12:25:39 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:25:39 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:05:53PM -0400, Darcy Whyte wrote: > Am I understanding that the yapc2008 is just 100 dollars for the > Monday-Wednesday? Full information about the conference, including the cost, is at http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/about.html > Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) Walt From zrusilla at mac.com Sun Jun 8 12:34:46 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:34:46 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A bargain at twice the price In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369A1C0A-1280-479C-A592-E5D5E150653A@mac.com> Darcy Whyte wrote: > Am I understanding that the yapc2008 is just 100 dollars for the > Monday-Wednesday? > Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! Registration: $100 Dorms: $60 Airfare: $300 Drinking and making a fool of yourself with your fellow Perl hackers: Priceless From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 8 13:30:51 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:30:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A bargain at twice the price In-Reply-To: <369A1C0A-1280-479C-A592-E5D5E150653A@mac.com> (Elizabeth Cortell's message of "Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:34:46 -0700") References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <369A1C0A-1280-479C-A592-E5D5E150653A@mac.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "EC" == Elizabeth Cortell writes: EC> Darcy Whyte wrote: >> Am I understanding that the yapc2008 is just 100 dollars for the >> Monday-Wednesday? >> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! EC> Registration: $100 EC> Dorms: $60 per day. or $180-360 depending on the stay EC> Airfare: $300 mine was $340 as i didn't want to fly jet blue at 6:35 am EC> Drinking and making a fool of yourself with your fellow Perl hackers: EC> Priceless please!! some of us can make fools of ourselves without any drinking! uri, mostly sober yapc socialist czar -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From leosusanto at gmail.com Sun Jun 8 13:49:51 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:49:51 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A bargain at twice the price In-Reply-To: References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <369A1C0A-1280-479C-A592-E5D5E150653A@mac.com> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806081349x5bf788d6x503233abf40cae35@mail.gmail.com> Speaking of drinking, will there be beer/martini bof? On 6/8/08, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "EC" == Elizabeth Cortell writes: > > EC> Darcy Whyte wrote: > >> Am I understanding that the yapc2008 is just 100 dollars for the > >> Monday-Wednesday? > >> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! > > EC> Registration: $100 > EC> Dorms: $60 > > per day. or $180-360 depending on the stay > > EC> Airfare: $300 > > mine was $340 as i didn't want to fly jet blue at 6:35 am > > EC> Drinking and making a fool of yourself with your fellow Perl hackers: > EC> Priceless > > please!! some of us can make fools of ourselves without any drinking! > > uri, mostly sober yapc socialist czar > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com > -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html > --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com > --------- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com From perrin at elem.com Sun Jun 8 14:29:37 2008 From: perrin at elem.com (Perrin Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:29:37 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> Message-ID: <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: >> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! > > Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning. Just something to think about for future conferences. And to all the hard-working penny pinchers who kept the price so low the last few years: respect. - Perrin From ingy at ttul.org Sun Jun 8 14:40:32 2008 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:40:32 -0700 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608214032.GD15521@ttul.org> On 08/06/08 17:29 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > >> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! > > > > Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) > > Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more > impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the > world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has steadily gone up. > getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind > if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best > possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I > wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up > with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning. > > Just something to think about for future conferences. And to all the > hard-working penny pinchers who kept the price so low the last few > years: respect. > > - Perrin > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From perrin at elem.com Sun Jun 8 15:15:22 2008 From: perrin at elem.com (Perrin Harkins) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:15:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20080608214032.GD15521@ttul.org> References: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <20080608214032.GD15521@ttul.org> Message-ID: <66887a3d0806081515x6ee3a81at978e92264b20d5d5@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: > It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has > steadily gone up. True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. - Perrin From zrusilla at mac.com Sun Jun 8 15:24:26 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:24:26 -0700 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806081515x6ee3a81at978e92264b20d5d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <20080608214032.GD15521@ttul.org> <66887a3d0806081515x6ee3a81at978e92264b20d5d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0E882F06-C5BF-438A-834E-AB3485C26B61@mac.com> >> True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. More than can be said for gasoline, that's for sure. From damogar at gmail.com Sun Jun 8 15:47:55 2008 From: damogar at gmail.com (David Moreno) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:47:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806081515x6ee3a81at978e92264b20d5d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <20080608214032.GD15521@ttul.org> <66887a3d0806081515x6ee3a81at978e92264b20d5d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1212965275.4450.0.camel@puerca> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 18:15 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: > > It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has > > steadily gone up. > > True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. Or less, if paid in advance ;) -- David Moreno Garza http://damog.net/ http://axiombox.com/ From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 8 19:37:13 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:37:13 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes Message-ID: hi all you hungry and thirsty yapc'ers, the votes are in and it looks like the arrival dinner will be: CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS Served with an Asian plum sauce (15 votes) MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES Slow roasted BBQ pulled pork covered with Honkers Ale BBQ sauce (12 votes) there are 44 people signed up so i will order for 50 people (the minumum to have the room) as i am sure at least 6 more will signup or walk-in. remember to BRING CASH. no diamonds, gold bars, secret chips, redmond software coupons will be accepted. it will be $30/person. more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on stun. uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 8 20:46:51 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:46:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes In-Reply-To: <0EB18A2E-EB41-4524-9656-DEE754326E65@kineticode.com> (David E. Wheeler's message of "Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:40:28 -0700") References: <0EB18A2E-EB41-4524-9656-DEE754326E65@kineticode.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: DEW> On Jun 8, 2008, at 19:37, Uri Guttman wrote: >> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on >> stun. >> >> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago much better than i do. DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? good questions. i doubt you will get to the dinner by the el in time for anything. between baggage claim and the train it could be 90 minutes. correct me if i am off. if you can pay for a cab or car service it would be fastest but not cheap. and i would go to the dinner directly so as to not waste time at the dorms. i would bet josh or someone could get you into your dorm after the dinner. anyone have better answers? uri, the yapc expert on chicago from my one visit at the last yapc there. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 8 21:01:05 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:01:05 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806082057u66ac77b0m91542b6194940aaa@mail.gmail.com> (Joshua McAdams's message of "Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:57:31 -0500") References: <0EB18A2E-EB41-4524-9656-DEE754326E65@kineticode.com> <49d805d70806082057u66ac77b0m91542b6194940aaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: JM> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. >> >> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago much >> better than i do. >> DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams writes: JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can theoretically get JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the time for JM> considerably more $$. see, i didn't know shit so why did you email me offlist?! :) and i even read your arrival military time incorrectly as 7pm. d'oh!! uri, who knows diddly about 24 vs 12 hour times. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From kent at c2group.net Sun Jun 8 21:49:22 2008 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:49:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes In-Reply-To: References: <0EB18A2E-EB41-4524-9656-DEE754326E65@kineticode.com> <49d805d70806082057u66ac77b0m91542b6194940aaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Uri Guttman quoted Josh McAdams (JM): > > JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can > theoretically get > JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip > JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is > JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the > time for > JM> considerably more $$. As a general rule, transferring from train to bus makes you stand around for a while waiting for the bus, unless the bus route is an exceptionally well-bused route. And trains and buses run less often on weekends, usually. But for buses, traffic is generally lighter. What does all this mean? It means the 50 minutes as quoted by the CTA trip planner is likely a bit optimistic. A cab from O'Hare to the Wrigleyville Goose Island (yes, there's another one!) might set you back about $30, and take about 25 minutes. If you take the El from O'Hare to the Addison stop, and then take a cab, the train will be $1.75 and the cab probably around $15, and take maybe 35 minutes. Take the El and transfer to the bus costs a total of $2-$3, and will probably take an hour or so, more if you have a lot of wait for the bus. Or less if luck is on your side. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 From szabgab at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 01:16:18 2008 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:16:18 +0300 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: >>> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! >> >> Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) > > Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more > impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the > world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is > getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind > if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best > possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I > wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up > with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning. > While I am not familiar with the exact financial issues of YAPC::NA or YAPC::EU, it seems they have all had profit. At least in the recent 2-3 years. IMHO the greatest burden on the organizers is not the lack of money but the time one needs to spend and the lack of helping hands. For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to some tasks: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers A lot of the expenses are covered by sponsors - so getting sponsors is a great way to help but I think it is mostly relevant for next year. http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/sponsorship.html Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( regards Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html From waltman at pobox.com Mon Jun 9 05:13:56 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:13:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dinner and/or Auction? In-Reply-To: References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080609121356.GR7958@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:16:18AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the > conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction > on YAPC::NA :-( In recent years there's traditionally been an auction after the conference dinner on Tuesday night. But I don't see either the dinner or the auction on the schedule. I was assuming there must be some last-minute work going on behind the scenes on that, but I don't know. Is there anything planned for Tuesday night? Walt From jay at jays.net Mon Jun 9 06:01:22 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208@jays.net> On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to > some tasks: > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :) > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of > the conference. > At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still putting it on my resume. :) j From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 07:00:37 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:00:37 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dinner and/or Auction? In-Reply-To: <20080609121356.GR7958@mawode.com> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <20080609121356.GR7958@mawode.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806090700o78cd39fdp81a98b49ef4f5770@mail.gmail.com> There is a dinner and auction on Tuesday night. I'll add it to the schedule. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:16:18AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the >> conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction >> on YAPC::NA :-( > > In recent years there's traditionally been an auction after the > conference dinner on Tuesday night. But I don't see either the dinner > or the auction on the schedule. I was assuming there must be some > last-minute work going on behind the scenes on that, but I don't know. > > Is there anything planned for Tuesday night? > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 07:09:31 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:09:31 -0500 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208@jays.net> References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208@jays.net> Message-ID: <49d805d70806090709n7b28e47ar9770b0feb482f898@mail.gmail.com> Don't worry, there will be an auction. It's Tuesday night.... I had accidentally left it off of the schedule. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Jay Hannah wrote: > On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to >> some tasks: >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers > > Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :) > >> Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of >> the conference. >> At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( > > ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still > putting it on my resume. :) > > j > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From yapc at packy.org Mon Jun 9 07:23:21 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:23:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Campus meal cards Message-ID: I held off on buying a campus meal card mostly because I'm financing this conference on my own and my finances are still tight after relocating to NYC during last year's YAPC. Is there a financial benefit to using meal cards (which no longer seem to be available via the website) or is it just a convenience thing? If putting money on cards and using those is going to be cheaper than paying cash at the campus eateries, then I'd like to beg Josh to re-open sales of the cards for a little bit so those of us who thought that the deadline was just for the dorm rooms can grab meal cards... -packy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080609/dffad24a/attachment.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 07:38:30 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:38:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Campus meal cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806090738s41167cf9m5b2c4de876bd34c6@mail.gmail.com> > I held off on buying a campus meal card mostly because I'm financing this > conference on my own and my finances are still tight after relocating to NYC > during last year's YAPC. Is there a financial benefit to using meal cards > (which no longer seem to be available via the website) or is it just a > convenience thing? If putting money on cards and using those is going to be > cheaper than paying cash at the campus eateries, then I'd like to beg Josh > to re-open sales of the cards for a little bit so those of us who thought > that the deadline was just for the dorm rooms can grab meal cards... There is no real financial advantage, just convenience. From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 9 08:27:42 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:27:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208@jays.net> (Jay Hannah's message of "Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:22 -0500") References: <29d269c70806081205w2fa2d1a2m441d51eafd19bb7e@mail.gmail.com> <20080608192539.GM7958@mawode.com> <66887a3d0806081429r1a7b2d5akf88a0a5c8f673e64@mail.gmail.com> <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208@jays.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "JH" == Jay Hannah writes: JH> On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to >> some tasks: >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers JH> Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :) >> Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of >> the conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no >> auction on YAPC::NA :-( JH> ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still JH> putting it on my resume. :) as i am (still) the auctioneer, i will unretire you and reinstate you as a runner. in fact i will have you running back and forth across the pond to help with the yapc::eu auction! uri, the auctioneering taskmaster. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From tjp at dairynet.com Mon Jun 9 08:44:36 2008 From: tjp at dairynet.com (Timothy J Pangburn) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:44:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Master Classes Confirmation Message-ID: Am I suppose to receive a confirmation e-mail after registering for a master class? My company, which is sponsoring me, informed me that they signed me for Intermediate Perl but I do not see this detail on the YAPC:NA web site nor have I receive any confirmation e-mail. Could someone advise me on whom to contact to see if I am register for the class? Thanks Tim ______________________________________ Timothy Pangburn Control Systems Programmer Analyst mailto:tjp at Dairynet.com Phone: 608-787-1348 Fax: 608-787-1422 Dairyland Power Corporative www.dairynet.com 3200 East Avenue South P.O. Box 817 La Crosse, WI 54601-0817 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080609/8fc20542/attachment.html From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 10:20:35 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:20:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] YAPC Message-ID: <29d269c70806091020n29f1c9dan2431a1759073d088@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like a lot of fun. I've decided to pop out from Ottawa, Ontario. I'm coming on my motorbike to save money and simplify logistics once I'm there. I'm assuming that if I register on the Web, the 100 covers the entire conference and the $20 covers all parking? I'm looking forward to meeting you all. If there is a conference like this for PHP that would be cool too! Darcy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM, wrote: > Send yapc mailing list submissions to > yapc at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > yapc-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > yapc-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of yapc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Elizabeth Cortell) > 2. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (David Moreno) > 3. arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) > 4. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) > 5. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) > 6. Re: arrival dinner votes (Kent Cowgill) > 7. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Gabor Szabo) > 8. Dinner and/or Auction? (Walt Mankowski) > 9. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Jay Hannah) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:24:26 -0700 > From: Elizabeth Cortell > Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 > To: Perrin Harkins > Cc: Ingy dot Net , yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: <0E882F06-C5BF-438A-834E-AB3485C26B61 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > >> True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. > > More than can be said for gasoline, that's for sure. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:47:55 -0400 > From: David Moreno > Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 > To: Perrin Harkins > Cc: Ingy dot Net , yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: <1212965275.4450.0.camel at puerca> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 18:15 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: > > > It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has > > > steadily gone up. > > > > True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. > > Or less, if paid in advance ;) > > -- > David Moreno Garza > http://damog.net/ > http://axiombox.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:37:13 -0400 > From: Uri Guttman > Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > hi all you hungry and thirsty yapc'ers, > > the votes are in and it looks like the arrival dinner will be: > > CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS Served with an Asian plum sauce (15 votes) > > MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES Slow roasted BBQ pulled pork covered > with Honkers Ale BBQ sauce (12 votes) > > there are 44 people signed up so i will order for 50 people (the minumum > to have the room) as i am sure at least 6 more will signup or walk-in. > > remember to BRING CASH. no diamonds, gold bars, secret chips, redmond > software coupons will be accepted. it will be $30/person. > > more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on > stun. > > uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com-- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html--------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com--------- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:46:51 -0400 > From: Uri Guttman > Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes > To: "David E. Wheeler" > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: > > DEW> On Jun 8, 2008, at 19:37, Uri Guttman wrote: > >> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on > >> stun. > >> > >> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. > > DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that > DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. > > yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago much > better than i do. > > DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the > DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or > DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then > DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? > > good questions. i doubt you will get to the > dinner by the el in time for anything. between baggage claim and the > train it could be 90 minutes. correct me if i am off. if you can pay for > a cab or car service it would be fastest but not cheap. and i would go > to the dinner directly so as to not waste time at the dorms. i would bet > josh or someone could get you into your dorm after the dinner. > > anyone have better answers? > > uri, the yapc expert on chicago from my one visit at the last yapc > there. > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com-- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html--------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com--------- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:01:05 -0400 > From: Uri Guttman > Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes > To: "Joshua McAdams" > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > JM> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Uri Guttman > wrote: > >>>>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: > DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that > DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. > >> > >> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago > much > >> better than i do. > >> > DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the > DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or > DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then > DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? > > >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams writes: > > JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can theoretically get > JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip > JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is > JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the time for > JM> considerably more $$. > > see, i didn't know shit so why did you email me offlist?! :) > > and i even read your arrival military time incorrectly as 7pm. d'oh!! > > uri, who knows diddly about 24 vs 12 hour times. > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com-- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html--------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com--------- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:49:22 -0500 > From: Kent Cowgill > Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes > To: Uri Guttman > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Uri Guttman quoted Josh McAdams (JM): > > > > JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can > > theoretically get > > JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip > > JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is > > JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the > > time for > > JM> considerably more $$. > > > As a general rule, transferring from train to bus makes you stand > around for a while waiting for the bus, unless the bus route is an > exceptionally well-bused route. > > And trains and buses run less often on weekends, usually. But for > buses, traffic is generally lighter. > > What does all this mean? > > It means the 50 minutes as quoted by the CTA trip planner is likely a > bit optimistic. > > A cab from O'Hare to the Wrigleyville Goose Island (yes, there's > another one!) might set you back about $30, and take about 25 minutes. > > If you take the El from O'Hare to the Addison stop, and then take a > cab, the train will be $1.75 and the cab probably around $15, and take > maybe 35 minutes. > > Take the El and transfer to the bus costs a total of $2-$3, and will > probably take an hour or so, more if you have a lot of wait for the > bus. Or less if luck is on your side. > > > -Kent Cowgill > > C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net > http://www.c2group.net > 312.804.0160 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:16:18 +0300 > From: "Gabor Szabo" > Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 > To: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski > wrote: > >>> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! > >> > >> Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) > > > > Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more > > impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the > > world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is > > getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind > > if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best > > possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I > > wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up > > with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning. > > > > While I am not familiar with the exact financial issues of YAPC::NA or > YAPC::EU, it seems they have all had profit. > At least in the recent 2-3 years. > > IMHO the greatest burden on the organizers is not the lack of money > but the time one needs to spend and the lack of helping hands. > > For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to > some tasks: > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers > > A lot of the expenses are covered by sponsors - so getting sponsors is a > great way to help but I think it is mostly relevant for next year. > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/sponsorship.html > > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the > conference. > At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( > > > regards > Gabor > -- > Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html > Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:13:56 -0400 > From: Walt Mankowski > Subject: [yapc] Dinner and/or Auction? > To: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: <20080609121356.GR7958 at mawode.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:16:18AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the > > conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction > > on YAPC::NA :-( > > In recent years there's traditionally been an auction after the > conference dinner on Tuesday night. But I don't see either the dinner > or the auction on the schedule. I was assuming there must be some > last-minute work going on behind the scenes on that, but I don't know. > > Is there anything planned for Tuesday night? > > Walt > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:22 -0500 > From: Jay Hannah > Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 > To: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208 at jays.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to > > some tasks: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers > > Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :) > > > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of > > the conference. > > At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( > > ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still > putting it on my resume. :) > > j > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > End of yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 > ************************************ > -- Darcy Whyte Darcy at Siteware.com 613-563-3634 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080609/62aaab6f/attachment-0001.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 11:36:52 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:36:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806091020n29f1c9dan2431a1759073d088@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806091020n29f1c9dan2431a1759073d088@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806091136k757b6105x7a05215c90473702@mail.gmail.com> $30 for the parking, $100 for M-W of the conference. If you want the training courses on Thursday and Friday that's an additional fee. Also, come early and stay late for the hack-a-thons. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Darcy Whyte wrote: > Sounds like a lot of fun. I've decided to pop out from Ottawa, Ontario. > > I'm coming on my motorbike to save money and simplify logistics once I'm > there. I'm assuming that if I register on the Web, the 100 covers the entire > conference and the $20 covers all parking? > > I'm looking forward to meeting you all. > > If there is a conference like this for PHP that would be cool too! > > Darcy > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM, wrote: >> >> Send yapc mailing list submissions to >> yapc at pm.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> yapc-request at pm.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> yapc-owner at pm.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of yapc digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Elizabeth Cortell) >> 2. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (David Moreno) >> 3. arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) >> 4. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) >> 5. Re: arrival dinner votes (Uri Guttman) >> 6. Re: arrival dinner votes (Kent Cowgill) >> 7. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Gabor Szabo) >> 8. Dinner and/or Auction? (Walt Mankowski) >> 9. Re: yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 (Jay Hannah) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:24:26 -0700 >> From: Elizabeth Cortell >> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 >> To: Perrin Harkins >> Cc: Ingy dot Net , yapc at pm.org >> Message-ID: <0E882F06-C5BF-438A-834E-AB3485C26B61 at mac.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. >> >> More than can be said for gasoline, that's for sure. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:47:55 -0400 >> From: David Moreno >> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 >> To: Perrin Harkins >> Cc: Ingy dot Net , yapc at pm.org >> Message-ID: <1212965275.4450.0.camel at puerca> >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 18:15 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: >> > > It hasn't always been $100. I think it started around $40 and has >> > > steadily gone up. >> > >> > True, it wasn't always $100. This is the 3rd year at that price. >> >> Or less, if paid in advance ;) >> >> -- >> David Moreno Garza >> http://damog.net/ >> http://axiombox.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:37:13 -0400 >> From: Uri Guttman >> Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner votes >> To: yapc at mail.pm.org >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> hi all you hungry and thirsty yapc'ers, >> >> the votes are in and it looks like the arrival dinner will be: >> >> CRUNCHY CHICKEN SKEWERS Served with an Asian plum sauce (15 votes) >> >> MINI BBQ PULLED PORK SANDWICHES Slow roasted BBQ pulled pork covered >> with Honkers Ale BBQ sauce (12 votes) >> >> there are 44 people signed up so i will order for 50 people (the minumum >> to have the room) as i am sure at least 6 more will signup or walk-in. >> >> remember to BRING CASH. no diamonds, gold bars, secret chips, redmond >> software coupons will be accepted. it will be $30/person. >> >> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on >> stun. >> >> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com >> -- >> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support >> ------ >> --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html >> --------- >> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com >> --------- >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:46:51 -0400 >> From: Uri Guttman >> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes >> To: "David E. Wheeler" >> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: >> >> DEW> On Jun 8, 2008, at 19:37, Uri Guttman wrote: >> >> more obnoxious reminders will be forthcoming. set your spam filters on >> >> stun. >> >> >> >> uri, the embezzler of yapc arrival dinner fees paid in gold bars. >> >> DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that >> DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. >> >> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago much >> better than i do. >> >> DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the >> DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or >> DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then >> DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? >> >> good questions. i doubt you will get to the >> dinner by the el in time for anything. between baggage claim and the >> train it could be 90 minutes. correct me if i am off. if you can pay for >> a cab or car service it would be fastest but not cheap. and i would go >> to the dinner directly so as to not waste time at the dorms. i would bet >> josh or someone could get you into your dorm after the dinner. >> >> anyone have better answers? >> >> uri, the yapc expert on chicago from my one visit at the last yapc >> there. >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com >> -- >> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support >> ------ >> --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html >> --------- >> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com >> --------- >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:01:05 -0400 >> From: Uri Guttman >> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes >> To: "Joshua McAdams" >> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> JM> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Uri Guttman >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> "DEW" == David E Wheeler writes: >> DEW> Hey Uri, thanks for organizing this. A quickquestion for you that >> DEW> might be best answered on-list, if you think they're generic enough. >> >> >> >> yes, this is not a private matter and i am sure others know chicago >> much >> >> better than i do. >> >> >> DEW> My flight arrives at 17:06. What's the best way for me to get to the >> DEW> dinner? Should I take CTA somewhere directly from the airport, or >> DEW> should I go to the conference center/dorm, get checked in, and then >> DEW> get to the dinner? If the latter, how do I get there? >> >> >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams writes: >> >> JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can theoretically >> get >> JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip >> JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is >> JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the time for >> JM> considerably more $$. >> >> see, i didn't know shit so why did you email me offlist?! :) >> >> and i even read your arrival military time incorrectly as 7pm. d'oh!! >> >> uri, who knows diddly about 24 vs 12 hour times. >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com >> -- >> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support >> ------ >> --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html >> --------- >> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com >> --------- >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:49:22 -0500 >> From: Kent Cowgill >> Subject: Re: [yapc] arrival dinner votes >> To: Uri Guttman >> Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> >> On Jun 8, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Uri Guttman quoted Josh McAdams (JM): >> > >> > JM> Assuming that you can get to the L by 18:00, you can >> > theoretically get >> > JM> to Goose Island Wrigleyville in about 50 minutes. The CTA trip >> > JM> planner [http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com] output for the trip is >> > JM> attached. Of course, a cab could probably do it in half the >> > time for >> > JM> considerably more $$. >> >> >> As a general rule, transferring from train to bus makes you stand >> around for a while waiting for the bus, unless the bus route is an >> exceptionally well-bused route. >> >> And trains and buses run less often on weekends, usually. But for >> buses, traffic is generally lighter. >> >> What does all this mean? >> >> It means the 50 minutes as quoted by the CTA trip planner is likely a >> bit optimistic. >> >> A cab from O'Hare to the Wrigleyville Goose Island (yes, there's >> another one!) might set you back about $30, and take about 25 minutes. >> >> If you take the El from O'Hare to the Addison stop, and then take a >> cab, the train will be $1.75 and the cab probably around $15, and take >> maybe 35 minutes. >> >> Take the El and transfer to the bus costs a total of $2-$3, and will >> probably take an hour or so, more if you have a lot of wait for the >> bus. Or less if luck is on your side. >> >> >> -Kent Cowgill >> >> C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net >> http://www.c2group.net >> 312.804.0160 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:16:18 +0300 >> From: "Gabor Szabo" >> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 >> To: yapc at pm.org >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Walt Mankowski >> > wrote: >> >>> Just verifying that I understand as it's almost too good to be true! >> >> >> >> Yeah, that's pretty much the point of YAPC. :) >> > >> > Agreed, and the ability of the organizers to do this gets more >> > impressive every year. But that does make me think: everything in the >> > world is going up in price except YAPC. Maybe the $100 price is >> > getting to be a bit arbitrary at this point. I know I wouldn't mind >> > if the price went up a few dollars in order to ensure the best >> > possible conference or take some pressure off the organizers. I >> > wouldn't even mind if it just went up 4% or so every year to keep up >> > with inflation on the price of coffee and air conditioning. >> > >> >> While I am not familiar with the exact financial issues of YAPC::NA or >> YAPC::EU, it seems they have all had profit. >> At least in the recent 2-3 years. >> >> IMHO the greatest burden on the organizers is not the lack of money >> but the time one needs to spend and the lack of helping hands. >> >> For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to >> some tasks: >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers >> >> A lot of the expenses are covered by sponsors - so getting sponsors is a >> great way to help but I think it is mostly relevant for next year. >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/sponsorship.html >> >> Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the >> conference. >> At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( >> >> >> regards >> Gabor >> -- >> Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html >> Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:13:56 -0400 >> From: Walt Mankowski >> Subject: [yapc] Dinner and/or Auction? >> To: yapc at pm.org >> Message-ID: <20080609121356.GR7958 at mawode.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:16:18AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of the >> > conference. At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction >> > on YAPC::NA :-( >> >> In recent years there's traditionally been an auction after the >> conference dinner on Tuesday night. But I don't see either the dinner >> or the auction on the schedule. I was assuming there must be some >> last-minute work going on behind the scenes on that, but I don't know. >> >> Is there anything planned for Tuesday night? >> >> Walt >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:22 -0500 >> From: Jay Hannah >> Subject: Re: [yapc] yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 11 >> To: yapc at pm.org >> Message-ID: <232EF524-B233-4653-94A7-A0A9A93DA208 at jays.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> > For example here is a page where people can sign up to volunteer to >> > some tasks: >> > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Volunteers >> >> Cool. I've always wanted to be an auction runner. I volunteered. :) >> >> > Another large chunk is received during the auction at the end of >> > the conference. >> > At least in YAPC::EU as I can see there is no auction on YAPC::NA :-( >> >> ? That was the shortest auction running career ever. I'm still >> putting it on my resume. :) >> >> j >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> >> End of yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 >> ************************************ > > > > -- > > > Darcy Whyte > Darcy at Siteware.com > 613-563-3634 > > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada > N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 14:26:23 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:26:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] LUG Meeting June 21st Message-ID: <49d805d70806091426t1ad131efk3aabf1b11770e576@mail.gmail.com> There is a Chicago LUG meeting being held on June 21st (from 3pm-5pm I think) and they are looking for speakers. If any of you will be around that Saturday and think that you might be interested in spreading some Perl goodness to the greater Linux community, please let me know and I'll get you in touch with the organizer. From maxim at fnal.gov Mon Jun 9 17:46:28 2008 From: maxim at fnal.gov (maxim) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:46:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] talks on Google Docs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009901c8ca93$6ad1b270$7950e183@fnal.gov> Hello, How the idea of having all talks on the Google Docs sounds like? Or is it something too much to ask. I'd like to have mine talk there but it would be very convenient to have all of them in one place. Thanks, Max Grigoriev. From miyagawa at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 17:56:24 2008 From: miyagawa at gmail.com (Tatsuhiko Miyagawa) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:56:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] talks on Google Docs In-Reply-To: <009901c8ca93$6ad1b270$7950e183@fnal.gov> References: <009901c8ca93$6ad1b270$7950e183@fnal.gov> Message-ID: <693254b90806091756p135fc897pfa706fca456dd515@mail.gmail.com> Slideshare is a better place for that. It's still hard for you to upload your slides if you write them in HTML/JS though. For YAPC::Asia we created an event page so that all PDF/PPT/Keynote slides are available there. http://www.slideshare.net/event/yapcasia-2008 But we also asked speakers to update their "Talk URL" column to link to their slides, so http://yapc.asia/schedule has all the links and videos. There should never be a better place than the official YAPC site to have "all of them in one place", I think ;) On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM, maxim wrote: > > Hello, > How the idea of having all talks on the Google Docs sounds like? Or is it > something > too much to ask. I'd like to have mine talk there but it would be very > convenient to have all of them > in one place. -- Tatsuhiko Miyagawa From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 9 20:26:58 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:26:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices Message-ID: ok all of you, and i mean ALL of you. this is about the food at the banquet. there is no anti-banquet event planned nor allowed. this is also when the auction is held and i will be noticing anyone who leaves before then! the banquet will be on campus in the new big room in the conference building (correct me if i am wrong there). it will be catered by sodexho which is a large corporate catering outfit that can actually cook decent food once in a while (i have worked at places which had sodexho run cafeterias :). here is the full catering menu but see below for what choices you have to make. look for the bountiful buffet and moveable feast sections. in my infinite wisdom i have chosen the taste of italy buffet, the southern buffet, the big easy 10 and a middle eastern buffet (unlisted but offered to me by their rep). i didn't get the pizza nor mexican nor asian (the pacific rim) as i don't want them. you want to change the menu, you volunteer to be the socialist czar. be glad i let you have some choices at all!! http://www.iit.edu/~sodexho/documents/CateringGuideFULLCOLOR.pdf my plan is to order 90 servings each of the first three and 30 of the middle eastern (which is mostly vegan) giving us 300 servings (we have about 290 attendees so far). they give generous portions so this should be plenty of food and drink. when you come up to the buffet, remember that you don't have to eat some of everything! all the selections come with sodas, water and desserts. we can order extra drinks like iced tea and lemonade if there is interest. i also requested soda flavors beyond cola and lemon/lime like root beer and black cherry. they will order these (typical they don't stock them!). more on adult beverages below. so here are the choices you have to make along with my suggestions. i don't think we have enough time to wiki vote so just reply with your choices. unless someone wants to take this on and do the wiki (i won't). reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices THE BIG EASY 10 (90 servings) Mixed greens with assorted dressings, seafood jambalaya, chicken etouffee, dirty rice, corn bread, bread pudding, and assorted sodas. the big easy buffet has no choices so we just get that. A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti uri: fettucini, penne Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat uri: Alfredo, and Meat Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian Sausage uri: Italian Sausage Buffet includes Caesar Salad, Garlic Bread, Chef's Choice Dessert, and assorted sodas i was told the accompanying desserts will be tiramisu and biscotti SOUTHERN BUFFET (90 servings) Choice of 2 Entrees: Fried Chicken, BBQ Chicken, BBQ Ribs, and Fried Catfish Nuggets uri: Fried Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets Choice of 3 Accompaniments: Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes, Mac & Cheese, Steamed Green Beans, Red Beans & Rice, Yams, and Collard Greens uri: tough choices - mac & cheese, yams, green beans Buffets includes Cornbread, Coleslaw, Pecan or Sweet Potato Pie and choice of beverage. dunno about if we choose pecan vs sweet potato pie for dessert. i will ask. MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) the middle east buffet is not listed in the pdf but i was told it has tabouli, felafel, hummus, salads and grilled chicken. i will get more details. this is mainly for the veggie/vegan crowd (but if there is enough for them, you can have some). also there are many sides to the other buffets which are veggie/vegan. now on to the important stuff: adult beverages. when you get to the banquet you will be issued a single ticket per person (method to be determined later). this will be good for one beer, either draft or bottled at the bar. yes, there is free beer as in free beer! they will have the usual swill on tap and reasonable stuff in bottles (local goose island microbrew, corona, heineken, sam adams, etc.). the bar will be cash for other drinks and extra beer (unless you can steal beer tix from your table mates!). they will have wine but i dunno about mixed drinks and i will ask. remember to drink the free beer and buy more drinks as the auction will be afterwards and remember our motto: AN INEBRIATED BIDDER IS OUR BEST DONOR! uri, i will be your catering coordinator tonight. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From yapc at galumph.com Mon Jun 9 20:31:53 2008 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:31:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] talks on Google Docs In-Reply-To: <693254b90806091756p135fc897pfa706fca456dd515@mail.gmail.com> References: <009901c8ca93$6ad1b270$7950e183@fnal.gov> <693254b90806091756p135fc897pfa706fca456dd515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484DF5A9.2080307@galumph.com> The problem with Slideshare is that you have to register in order to download, which I hate. From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 20:53:34 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:53:34 -0500 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806092053i34e3980pb882378da3c70540@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) > Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti > uri: fettucini, penne uri++ > > Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat > uri: Alfredo, and Meat uri++ > > Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian > Sausage > uri: Italian Sausage uri++ > > > now on to the important stuff: adult beverages. when you get to the > banquet you will be issued a single ticket per person (method to be > determined later). this will be good for one beer, either draft or > bottled at the bar. yes, there is free beer as in free beer! they will > have the usual swill on tap and reasonable stuff in bottles (local goose > island microbrew, corona, heineken, sam adams, etc.). the bar will be > cash for other drinks and extra beer (unless you can steal beer tix from > your table mates!). they will have wine but i dunno about mixed drinks > and i will ask. remember to drink the free beer and buy more drinks as > the auction will be afterwards and remember our motto: una free beer++ ;-) Shiner Bock++ (or Newcastle++ ) :-) > > > AN INEBRIATED BIDDER IS OUR BEST DONOR! If only I had more money! Jeremy, likely to have a few Newcastles, but not likely to be the best donor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080609/4b8dd221/attachment.html From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 20:56:00 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:56:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] talks on Google Docs In-Reply-To: <693254b90806091756p135fc897pfa706fca456dd515@mail.gmail.com> References: <009901c8ca93$6ad1b270$7950e183@fnal.gov> <693254b90806091756p135fc897pfa706fca456dd515@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806092056o71f5c90em10a39222413cec47@mail.gmail.com> > > But we also asked speakers to update their "Talk URL" column to link > to their slides, so http://yapc.asia/schedule has all the links and > videos. There should never be a better place than the official YAPC > site to have "all of them in one place", I think ;) I like the idea of people updating their Talk URL. Makes it easy to find the talks you're looking for. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080609/70a8ec6b/attachment.html From jay at jays.net Tue Jun 10 04:24:18 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:24:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F150B58-0CA0-4E86-9B3E-41C66D6D63E5@jays.net> On Jun 9, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > here is the full catering menu but see below for what choices you have I'm not picky, that all looks great to me. Ales rule. Thanks Uri! You da man. j level 26 omnivore From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 05:43:59 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:43:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: > reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices > > THE BIG EASY 10 (90 servings) > > Mixed greens with assorted dressings, seafood jambalaya, chicken > etouffee, dirty rice, corn bread, bread pudding, and assorted > sodas. > > the big easy buffet has no choices so we just get that. > > A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) > Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti > uri: fettucini, penne > Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat > uri: Alfredo, and Meat I'd really appreciate it if we could get Marinara sauce on some pasta (I don't care what), if that sauce is vegan, which it probably is. > MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) > > the middle east buffet is not listed in the pdf but i was told > it has tabouli, felafel, hummus, salads and grilled chicken. i > will get more details. this is mainly for the veggie/vegan crowd > (but if there is enough for them, you can have some). also there > are many sides to the other buffets which are veggie/vegan. This sounds great to me. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From karen at hoofnagle.org Tue Jun 10 06:10:06 2008 From: karen at hoofnagle.org (Karen Hoofnagle) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> Uri, I think the entire menu looks pretty good -- there's no bad choices I can see -- and agreed Sodexho can sling some pretty decent hash (as banquet food goes) so this should be pretty awesome. My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. Karen From mpeters at plusthree.com Tue Jun 10 06:26:19 2008 From: mpeters at plusthree.com (Michael Peters) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:26:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of > 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're > going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. ++, except I'd go for 40 :) -- Michael Peters Plus Three, LP From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 06:32:56 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael Peters wrote: > Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > >> My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of >> 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're >> going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. > > ++, except I'd go for 40 :) Maybe just do 75 of each buffet then. In my experience, this is probably a good idea, since omnivores will eat the veg*n food, but the reverse is not true. Erring on the side on more veg food means everyone gets plenty to eat. Also, as Uri knows, some of the vegans may be big eaters like myself ;) -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From karen at hoofnagle.org Tue Jun 10 06:41:56 2008 From: karen at hoofnagle.org (Karen Hoofnagle) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:41:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC Message-ID: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a camera and some advil for the hangovers)? From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 06:49:57 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:49:57 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: (Dave Rolsky's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:43:59 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: >> reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices >> >> THE BIG EASY 10 (90 servings) >> >> Mixed greens with assorted dressings, seafood jambalaya, chicken >> etouffee, dirty rice, corn bread, bread pudding, and assorted >> sodas. >> >> the big easy buffet has no choices so we just get that. >> >> A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) >> Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti >> uri: fettucini, penne >> Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat >> uri: Alfredo, and Meat DR> I'd really appreciate it if we could get Marinara sauce on some pasta (I DR> don't care what), if that sauce is vegan, which it probably is. makes sense. how about the marinara and alfredo sauces? there is plenty of other meats so we don't need the meat sauce. >> MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) >> >> the middle east buffet is not listed in the pdf but i was told >> it has tabouli, felafel, hummus, salads and grilled chicken. i >> will get more details. this is mainly for the veggie/vegan crowd >> (but if there is enough for them, you can have some). also there >> are many sides to the other buffets which are veggie/vegan. DR> This sounds great to me. being the foremost resident of the star vega, do you have any count of veggie/vegans? is 30 servings of the middle east a good number? that is 10% of the servings (not including the various other veggie sides)? thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 06:52:01 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:52:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: > DR> I'd really appreciate it if we could get Marinara sauce on some pasta (I > DR> don't care what), if that sauce is vegan, which it probably is. > > makes sense. how about the marinara and alfredo sauces? there is plenty > of other meats so we don't need the meat sauce. Works for me. > > >> MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) > >> > >> the middle east buffet is not listed in the pdf but i was told > >> it has tabouli, felafel, hummus, salads and grilled chicken. i > >> will get more details. this is mainly for the veggie/vegan crowd > >> (but if there is enough for them, you can have some). also there > >> are many sides to the other buffets which are veggie/vegan. > > DR> This sounds great to me. > > being the foremost resident of the star vega, do you have any count of > veggie/vegans? is 30 servings of the middle east a good number? that is > 10% of the servings (not including the various other veggie sides)? Well, like I said in response to other mails, unless you plan to forbid non-veg*ns from taking this food, it might be best to just order the same amount as everything else. After all, falafel, hummus, and such are pretty popular with omnivores too. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 06:52:03 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:52:03 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: (Dave Rolsky's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:56 -0500 (CDT)") References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DR" == Dave Rolsky writes: DR> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael Peters wrote: >> Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> >>> My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of >>> 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're >>> going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. >> >> ++, except I'd go for 40 :) DR> Maybe just do 75 of each buffet then. In my experience, this is probably a DR> good idea, since omnivores will eat the veg*n food, but the reverse is not DR> true. Erring on the side on more veg food means everyone gets plenty to DR> eat. DR> Also, as Uri knows, some of the vegans may be big eaters like myself ;) i had thought of 75 each and it works for me. any other thoughts on distribution? thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From kolibrie at graystudios.org Tue Jun 10 07:18:39 2008 From: kolibrie at graystudios.org (Nathan Gray) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:18:39 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. > > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where the rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. -kolibrie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? > > You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air > conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where > the rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. Though I'll be attending YAPC::Europe this year, I can vouch for this. Last year in Houston there were no controls in the room and it was quite cold at times. Alternately, just bring a towel you can put over the vent (which is what we did). Drew From kolibrie at graystudios.org Tue Jun 10 07:41:08 2008 From: kolibrie at graystudios.org (Nathan Gray) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:41:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <20080610144108.GA20674@vs2.capwiz.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:31:32AM -0500, Diakopter . wrote: > Nathan Gray wrote: > > You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air > > conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where > > the rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. > > It's my understanding, based on the contents of the IIT MSV website, > that the MSV dorm does not have a/c. Someone please correct me if > needed... If that is true, perhaps a ceiling fan would be more useful than a blanket. And a towel, don't want to go hitch hiking without a towel. -kolibrie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/a0b6a593/attachment.bin From jcap-yapc at apt202.net Tue Jun 10 07:41:40 2008 From: jcap-yapc at apt202.net (John Cappiello) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:41:40 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <20080610144139.GB21717@apt202.net> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Only if Casey or Luke are your neighbors. John -- jcap From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 07:42:09 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:42:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610144209.GA22053@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:52:01AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > Well, like I said in response to other mails, unless you plan to forbid > non-veg*ns from taking this food, it might be best to just order the same > amount as everything else. After all, falafel, hummus, and such are pretty > popular with omnivores too. I'm definitely planning on hitting the felafel and hummus. :) From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Tue Jun 10 07:42:10 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:42:10 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >> >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? >You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air >conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where the >rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. >-kolibrie Maybe I'm just missing this because it's still morning, but I was gonna have dinner with my Father on Father's Day (I'm from Chicago suburbs) and was wondering when I will be able to check into the dorms, are there hours when that's available? I can check in Saturday, if that makes it easier, but I'm only staying in dorms from Sun. night thru Wed. night...anyway, if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also if you can check in a day early, that would be great! The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions " How do we check into the dorm rooms? Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to check in there at the front desk. " Thanks, and looking forward to seeing y'all!! DanE in Houston (explains the "y'all", y'all! ;-) This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. From leosusanto at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 07:43:09 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:43:09 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806100743u5bfb0c8elfd2703dfb6e2c22f@mail.gmail.com> Bring your own towel - On 6/10/08, Nathan Gray wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >> >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? > > You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air > conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where > the rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. > > -kolibrie > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com From amoore at mooresystems.com Tue Jun 10 07:45:58 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:45:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <6c70d2980806100745v4d8dcf65v2d075ff8a2fc53ba@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. > > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? I always forget stuff, so I started: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PackingList In hopes of harnessing the wisdom of the crowd. Note that I'm assuming this crowd has some wisdom in it! -Andy From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 07:52:54 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:54 -0400 Subject: [yapc] (no subject) Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. > > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? The thing to remember is that there won't be many students in these dorms, since it's the summer and they're mostly elsewhere. So the only people up late partying will be perl hackers, and from what I've seen most perl hackers prefer to party in locations where waitstaff are paid to bring beer to you. -packy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/ab333986/attachment.html From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 08:00:54 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Packy Anderson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >> >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? > > The thing to remember is that there won't be many students in these > dorms, since it's the summer and they're mostly elsewhere. So the > only people up late partying will be perl hackers, and from what I've > seen most perl hackers prefer to party in locations where waitstaff > are paid to bring beer to you. They're also (mostly ;) mature enough that if you politely ask them to go to a different location cause you're trying to sleep, they'll do so. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Tue Jun 10 08:02:33 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:02:33 +0000 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C42@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> >A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) Love it! Great choice! I'm also glad to see the votes for more Middle Eastern. Go Vegan! *gnawing on a pork rib* ;-) >AN INEBRIATED BIDDER IS OUR BEST DONOR! Hear, hear! I can testify to that at my first YAPC, NA 2007. I did my part both TO my liver and FOR the Perl Foundation! ;-) -DanE http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/user/1804 This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. From cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu Tue Jun 10 08:08:42 2008 From: cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu (Craig Dunigan) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: > > ok all of you, and i mean ALL of you. > reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices I can eat anything. I spent four years in the US Army, then went to work (and eat) inside a county prison for two years. Whatever you've got that won't move off the plate on its own is fine by me. Although also a former professional cook and therefore a nominal gourmet, I still savor the distinct pleasure of food that wasn't cooked by someone sporting green or orange and a surly attitude. :) -- Craig Dunigan IS Technical Services Specialist Middleware - EIS - DoIT University of Wisconsin, Madison opinions expressed are my own, not the University's From talexb at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 08:27:42 2008 From: talexb at gmail.com (Alex Beamish) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:27:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. > > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? Another vote for something warm at the conference itself -- after freezing in the first morning session at CMU in 2000, I went back through the hot June sunshine to the residence to get a sweater. You can always drape it over a chair if you don't need it. The residences were not air conditioned :( but someone had the forethought to provide large fans for each room, which made the nights bearable. -- Alex Beamish Toronto, Ontario aka talexb From cbrandt at buffalo.edu Tue Jun 10 06:51:41 2008 From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:51:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> Message-ID: <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael Peters wrote: > >> Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> >>> My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of >>> 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're >>> going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. >> ++, except I'd go for 40 :) > > Maybe just do 75 of each buffet then. In my experience, this is probably a > good idea, since omnivores will eat the veg*n food, but the reverse is not > true. Erring on the side on more veg food means everyone gets plenty to > eat. > That's my experience too. The meat-eaters often sample everything and if you're a veggie and you're late to the line, you could be out of luck. I'd also vote for the Marinara sauce on some pasta since that will offer one more option. Jim -- Jim Brandt The Perl Foundation email: cbrandt at perlfoundation.org From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Tue Jun 10 09:09:43 2008 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (adam.prime at utoronto.ca) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] internet access at the dorms Message-ID: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> Is there any? I couldn't find anything on the site. Adam From ccf3 at mindspring.com Tue Jun 10 09:30:57 2008 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:30:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <484EAC41.80303@mindspring.com> Uri Guttman wrote: > so here are the choices you have to make along with my suggestions. i > don't think we have enough time to wiki vote so just reply with your > choices. unless someone wants to take this on and do the wiki (i > won't). > > reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices > > THE BIG EASY 10 (90 servings) > > Mixed greens with assorted dressings, seafood jambalaya, chicken > etouffee, dirty rice, corn bread, bread pudding, and assorted > sodas. > > the big easy buffet has no choices so we just get that. > > A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) > Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti > uri: fettucini, penne > c4ster: fettuccine, spaghetti > Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat > uri: Alfredo, and Meat > c4ster: Alfredo, and meat > Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian Sausage > uri: Italian Sausage > c4ster: grilled chicken strips, meatballs > Buffet includes Caesar Salad, Garlic Bread, Chef's Choice > Dessert, and assorted sodas > > i was told the accompanying desserts will be tiramisu and biscotti > > SOUTHERN BUFFET (90 servings) > Choice of 2 Entrees: Fried Chicken, BBQ Chicken, BBQ Ribs, and > Fried Catfish Nuggets > uri: Fried Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets > c4ster: fried chicken, BBQ ribs > Choice of 3 Accompaniments: Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes, Mac & > Cheese, Steamed Green Beans, Red Beans & Rice, Yams, and > Collard Greens > uri: tough choices - mac & cheese, yams, green beans > c4ster: green beans, mac & cheese > Buffets includes Cornbread, Coleslaw, Pecan or Sweet Potato Pie > and choice of beverage. > > dunno about if we choose pecan vs sweet potato pie for > dessert. i will ask. > > MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) > > the middle east buffet is not listed in the pdf but i was told > it has tabouli, felafel, hummus, salads and grilled chicken. i > will get more details. this is mainly for the veggie/vegan crowd > (but if there is enough for them, you can have some). also there > are many sides to the other buffets which are veggie/vegan. > From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 09:53:21 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:53:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806100953n2b32d5c7nc0127b963ddfde61@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. > > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? Cash for the auction! ;-) Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/1c34c6b9/attachment.html From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 09:55:12 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:55:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] internet access at the dorms In-Reply-To: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> References: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806100955p753dda78q5718ea8efdf05dda@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM, wrote: > > Is there any? I couldn't find anything on the site. There was last time. Each person received a piece of paper upon check-in, with their guest username and password. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/cfc56f7a/attachment.html From tyemq at cpan.org Tue Jun 10 10:22:36 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:22:36 -0700 Subject: [yapc] internet access at the dorms In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806100955p753dda78q5718ea8efdf05dda@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> <7f7c2d5e0806100955p753dda78q5718ea8efdf05dda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So part of the packing for the trip should include setting up your ssh tunnel to do all of your surfing through? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM, wrote: > >> >> Is there any? I couldn't find anything on the site. > > > There was last time. Each person received a piece of paper upon check-in, > with their guest username and password. > > Jeremy > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/553f5ca6/attachment.html From joshua.gatcomb at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 10:29:53 2008 From: joshua.gatcomb at gmail.com (Joshua Gatcomb) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:29:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Message-ID: <941eab840806101029m62bb2400i3d2a66a651a29b2f@mail.gmail.com> All: I have checked the BOF schedule on the wiki and didn't see anything for PerlMonks. Before I add something to the wiki (I don't know about date/time/location), I wanted to see if anyone else was interested. If I get more than 1 other person interested, I will go ahead and try and arrange something despite not being familiar with Chicago. Cheers, Joshua Gatcomb a.k.a. Limbic~Region -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/bdc8b1a9/attachment.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 10:31:03 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:31:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] internet access at the dorms In-Reply-To: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> References: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101031o7676bf75pe30bb79a0ed4ab1a@mail.gmail.com> Yes, there is wireless in the dorms. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM, wrote: > > Is there any? I couldn't find anything on the site. > > Adam > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Jun 10 10:33:37 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:33:37 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <20080610144139.GB21717@apt202.net> (John Cappiello's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:41:40 -0400") References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610144139.GB21717@apt202.net> Message-ID: <86ej7519fy.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "John" == John Cappiello writes: John> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? John> Only if Casey or Luke are your neighbors. And be very happy you're not bunking with *me*. I've been told my snoring is the stuff of legends. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 10:35:29 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:35:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101035v54e97b72ka4c559b35601e9ea@mail.gmail.com> You should be able to get into the dorms from 3-10pm on Sunday.... we are working on the final hours now. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >>> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >>> >>> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >>> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >>> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? > >>You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air >>conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where > the >rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. > >>-kolibrie > > Maybe I'm just missing this because it's still morning, but I was gonna > have dinner with my Father on Father's Day (I'm from Chicago suburbs) > and was wondering when I will be able to check into the dorms, are there > hours when that's available? I can check in Saturday, if that makes it > easier, but I'm only staying in dorms from Sun. night thru Wed. > night...anyway, if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also > if you can check in a day early, that would be great! > > The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions > " > How do we check into the dorm rooms? > > Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to check > in there at the front desk. > " > > Thanks, and looking forward to seeing y'all!! > DanE in Houston (explains the "y'all", y'all! ;-) > > This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use > of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you > have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail > is a violation of federal criminal law. > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From will at coleda.com Tue Jun 10 10:39:35 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:39:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101035v54e97b72ka4c559b35601e9ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <49d805d70806101035v54e97b72ka4c559b35601e9ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > You should be able to get into the dorms from 3-10pm on Sunday.... we > are working on the final hours now. You mean Friday, right? > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Ellenbaum, Dan > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >>>> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >>>> >>>> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >>>> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >>>> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? >> >>>You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air >>>conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where >> the >rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. >> >>>-kolibrie >> >> Maybe I'm just missing this because it's still morning, but I was gonna >> have dinner with my Father on Father's Day (I'm from Chicago suburbs) >> and was wondering when I will be able to check into the dorms, are there >> hours when that's available? I can check in Saturday, if that makes it >> easier, but I'm only staying in dorms from Sun. night thru Wed. >> night...anyway, if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also >> if you can check in a day early, that would be great! >> >> The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: >> >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions >> " >> How do we check into the dorm rooms? >> >> Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to check >> in there at the front desk. >> " >> >> Thanks, and looking forward to seeing y'all!! >> DanE in Houston (explains the "y'all", y'all! ;-) >> >> This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use >> of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you >> have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail >> is a violation of federal criminal law. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Tue Jun 10 10:40:51 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:40:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <49d805d70806101035v54e97b72ka4c559b35601e9ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Joshua McAdams > wrote: >> You should be able to get into the dorms from 3-10pm on Sunday.... we >> are working on the final hours now. > > You mean Friday, right? Hey, next time I'll actually read through the quoted message, even if I get them out of order! Will "hoping he can get into the dorms Friday night anyway" Coleda. >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Ellenbaum, Dan >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >>>>> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >>>>> >>>>> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >>>>> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >>>>> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? >>> >>>>You may want to bring some warm clothes or a blanket in case the air >>>>conditioning is set too cold in the dorms. I've been to dorms where >>> the >rooms (or sometimes just my room) do not have a thermostat. >>> >>>>-kolibrie >>> >>> Maybe I'm just missing this because it's still morning, but I was gonna >>> have dinner with my Father on Father's Day (I'm from Chicago suburbs) >>> and was wondering when I will be able to check into the dorms, are there >>> hours when that's available? I can check in Saturday, if that makes it >>> easier, but I'm only staying in dorms from Sun. night thru Wed. >>> night...anyway, if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also >>> if you can check in a day early, that would be great! >>> >>> The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: >>> >>> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions >>> " >>> How do we check into the dorm rooms? >>> >>> Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to check >>> in there at the front desk. >>> " >>> >>> Thanks, and looking forward to seeing y'all!! >>> DanE in Houston (explains the "y'all", y'all! ;-) >>> >>> This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use >>> of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you >>> have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail >>> is a violation of federal criminal law. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yapc mailing list >>> yapc at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From perrin at elem.com Tue Jun 10 10:51:41 2008 From: perrin at elem.com (Perrin Harkins) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:51:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> Message-ID: <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything > else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a > camera and some advil for the hangovers)? Dry matches. 8" chef's knife. Steel-toed boots. A copy of "Dune". - Perrin From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 10:54:26 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:54:26 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <49d805d70806101035v54e97b72ka4c559b35601e9ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101054k12397a45ibde6da04fd880b3f@mail.gmail.com> >>> You should be able to get into the dorms from 3-10pm on Sunday.... we >>> are working on the final hours now. >> >> You mean Friday, right? > > Hey, next time I'll actually read through the quoted message, even if > I get them out of order! > > Will "hoping he can get into the dorms Friday night anyway" Coleda. Yes, each person will be able to check in to the dorms on the day that they arrive. The big check in is on Sunday since that's when most people arrive. We will be handing out conference goodies, namebadges, etc. on Sunday too. From ccf3 at mindspring.com Tue Jun 10 11:00:33 2008 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:00:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484EC141.2060809@mindspring.com> Perrin Harkins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? >> > > Dry matches. 8" chef's knife. Steel-toed boots. A copy of "Dune". > Dune? Does the shielding around the "El" look that much like a sand worm? c4 From chromatic at wgz.org Tue Jun 10 11:04:44 2008 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:04:44 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200806101104.44494.chromatic@wgz.org> On Tuesday 10 June 2008 10:51:41 Perrin Harkins wrote: > Dry matches. 8" chef's knife. Steel-toed boots. A copy of "Dune". Sounds like my most recent staff meeting. -- c From zrusilla at mac.com Tue Jun 10 11:07:52 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:07:52 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <66887a3d0806101051p66580aebq9e142e8202a94477@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9505376D-EF87-47E6-BD46-8A5FA46FD219@mac.com> > Dry matches. 8" chef's knife. Steel-toed boots. A copy of "Dune". PARTY'S IN PERRIN'S ROOM! From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:12:43 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <86ej7519fy.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> (Randal L. Schwartz's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:33:37 -0700") References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610144139.GB21717@apt202.net> <86ej7519fy.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "RLS" == Randal L Schwartz writes: RLS> And be very happy you're not bunking with *me*. I've been told RLS> my snoring is the stuff of legends. s/my snoring is/I am/ :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:10:50 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:10:50 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <20080610144209.GA22053@mawode.com> (Walt Mankowski's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:42:09 -0400") References: <20080610144209.GA22053@mawode.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski writes: WM> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:52:01AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: >> Well, like I said in response to other mails, unless you plan to forbid >> non-veg*ns from taking this food, it might be best to just order the same >> amount as everything else. After all, falafel, hummus, and such are pretty >> popular with omnivores too. WM> I'm definitely planning on hitting the felafel and hummus. :) beware, it may hit back! a felafel in the eye is no laughing matter. actually as long as it isn't my eye, it IS a laughing matter! /me fills his cheeks with hummus. what am i? FOOD FIGHT!!! uri, channeling bluto of animal house for the moment -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 10 11:13:14 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:13:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "JB" == Jim Brandt writes: > > JB> Dave Rolsky wrote: > >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael Peters wrote: > >> > >>> Karen Hoofnagle wrote: > >>> > >>>> My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of > >>>> 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're > >>>> going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. > >>> ++, except I'd go for 40 :) > >> > >> Maybe just do 75 of each buffet then. In my experience, this is probably a > >> good idea, since omnivores will eat the veg*n food, but the reverse is not > >> true. Erring on the side on more veg food means everyone gets plenty to > >> eat. > >> > > JB> That's my experience too. The meat-eaters often sample everything and if > JB> you're a veggie and you're late to the line, you could be out of luck. > > JB> I'd also vote for the Marinara sauce on some pasta since that will offer > JB> one more option. > > done and done. i will be calling sodexho in a bit with the changes and > selections. Thanks, Uri. I do want to say I really appreciate you making sure I (and other veg*ns) have something good to eat at the banquet. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:14:24 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:14:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <6c70d2980806100745v4d8dcf65v2d075ff8a2fc53ba@mail.gmail.com> (Andrew Moore's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:45:58 -0500") References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <6c70d2980806100745v4d8dcf65v2d075ff8a2fc53ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "AM" == Andrew Moore writes: AM> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. >> >> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything >> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a >> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? AM> I always forget stuff, so I started: AM> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PackingList AM> In hopes of harnessing the wisdom of the crowd. Note that I'm AM> assuming this crowd has some wisdom in it! this is a yapc crowd so that is a risky and dangerous assumption! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From will at coleda.com Tue Jun 10 11:15:46 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:15:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Feeding habits of an Albany perl monger... Message-ID: Since vegan is now par for the course... Will there be access to hot water (e.g. for tea) in the confererence rooms during the day? Microwaves and potable water in the dorms +/or cafeteria? -- Will "Coke Floats" Coleda From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:15:56 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:15:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806100953n2b32d5c7nc0127b963ddfde61@mail.gmail.com> (Jeremy Fluhmann's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:53:21 -0500") References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <7f7c2d5e0806100953n2b32d5c7nc0127b963ddfde61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JF" == Jeremy Fluhmann writes: JF> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Karen Hoofnagle wrote: JF> This is my first YAPC, and I'm staying in the dorms. JF> Do I need to bring earplugs to get a decent night's sleep? Anything JF> else one usually needs (other than a laptop with a perl install, a JF> camera and some advil for the hangovers)? JF> Cash for the auction! ;-) and for the arrival dinner. and the auction can usually take credit cards (we will need a couple of laptops and runners to help with credit card payments). we will also take checks and gold bars (which i will embezzle). uri, who has gold fever -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:20:33 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:20:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <484EAC41.80303@mindspring.com> (Clyde Forrester's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:30:57 -0500") References: <484EAC41.80303@mindspring.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "CF" == Clyde Forrester writes: CF> Uri Guttman wrote: >> so here are the choices you have to make along with my suggestions. i >> don't think we have enough time to wiki vote so just reply with your >> choices. unless someone wants to take this on and do the wiki (i >> won't). >> >> reply back (to the list, not just to me) and vote for your choices >> >> THE BIG EASY 10 (90 servings) >> >> Mixed greens with assorted dressings, seafood jambalaya, chicken >> etouffee, dirty rice, corn bread, bread pudding, and assorted >> sodas. >> >> the big easy buffet has no choices so we just get that. >> >> A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) >> Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti >> uri: fettucini, penne >> CF> c4ster: fettuccine, spaghetti too similar in style. penne and fettucini are the winners. >> Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat >> uri: Alfredo, and Meat >> CF> c4ster: Alfredo, and meat as the veggies requested it will be marinara and alfredo. plenty of meats elsewhere. >> Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian Sausage >> uri: Italian Sausage >> CF> c4ster: grilled chicken strips, meatballs what don't you understand about counting to 1!? :) your vote is hereby disqualified and you will be forced to code in python for 2 weeks! >> SOUTHERN BUFFET (90 servings) >> Choice of 2 Entrees: Fried Chicken, BBQ Chicken, BBQ Ribs, and >> Fried Catfish Nuggets >> uri: Fried Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets >> CF> c4ster: fried chicken, BBQ ribs most have agreed to the fried chicken and catfish. i don't have much time to collect more votes. uri, who is using deibold (or their new chicken name) voting machines for this. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 11:21:44 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:21:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Feeding habits of an Albany perl monger... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806101121l233a2f46u906d80fd0ae6a92@mail.gmail.com> > Will there be access to hot water (e.g. for tea) in the confererence > rooms during the day? Microwaves and potable water in the dorms +/or > cafeteria? We will have tea and coffee service in the mornings and afternoons during the conference. There should be hot water then. In the dorms, you'll probably have to use a microwave. If there isn't already one in a common area, I'll bring one and leave it there for the week. From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:08:48 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:48 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: (Craig Dunigan's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:08:42 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "CD" == Craig Dunigan writes: CD> got that won't move off the plate on its own is fine by me. Although CD> also a former professional cook and therefore a nominal gourmet, I CD> still savor the distinct pleasure of food that wasn't cooked by CD> someone sporting green or orange and a surly attitude. :) as the auctioneer i can provide you with a surly attitude and maybe i will sport a green and orange tied dyed t-shirt! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:11:34 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:11:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> (Jim Brandt's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:51:41 -0400") References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "JB" == Jim Brandt writes: JB> Dave Rolsky wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael Peters wrote: >> >>> Karen Hoofnagle wrote: >>> >>>> My only vote would be to do maybe 35 middle eastern buffets instead of >>>> 30 so that us omnivores can have some felafel without worrying we're >>>> going to starve the veggie/vegan crowd. >>> ++, except I'd go for 40 :) >> >> Maybe just do 75 of each buffet then. In my experience, this is probably a >> good idea, since omnivores will eat the veg*n food, but the reverse is not >> true. Erring on the side on more veg food means everyone gets plenty to >> eat. >> JB> That's my experience too. The meat-eaters often sample everything and if JB> you're a veggie and you're late to the line, you could be out of luck. JB> I'd also vote for the Marinara sauce on some pasta since that will offer JB> one more option. done and done. i will be calling sodexho in a bit with the changes and selections. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 11:35:14 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:35:14 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Uri says time is running out, I'm not waiting for my banquet guest to weigh in: A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET Pasta: uri++ Sauces: (!meat)++ Meat: grilled chicken strips SOUTHERN BUFFET Entrees: BBQ Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets Accompaniments: Red Beans & Rice, Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes ... and that looks like all the choices that are voteable. -packy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/81c81d9c/attachment.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 11:37:04 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:37:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Additional Attendees at Tuesday Night Dinner and Auction Message-ID: <49d805d70806101137q4329d7efsdd7af6d47bc27351@mail.gmail.com> If you are planning on bringing someone to the conference that isn't a registered attendee, please let us know ahead of time by purchasing a additional banquet ticket on the YAPC::NA website. Tickets are $40 each and include: - Dinner buffet (Italian, Southern, Middle Eastern, and Cajun varieties of food) - Four hours of game play (bowling and table games) - Cash bar (the first drink is on us) - Access to the most exciting Perl auction in Chicago this year! From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 11:39:04 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:39:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: (Packy Anderson's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:35:14 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "PA" == Packy Anderson writes: PA> Since Uri says time is running out, I'm not waiting for my banquet guest to PA> weigh in: PA> A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET PA> Pasta: uri++ PA> Sauces: (!meat)++ PA> Meat: grilled chicken strips PA> SOUTHERN BUFFET PA> Entrees: BBQ Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets PA> Accompaniments: Red Beans & Rice, Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes PA> ... and that looks like all the choices that are voteable. let's see what the deibold voting machines spit out! note that no one can vote from florida or michigan! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu Tue Jun 10 11:51:26 2008 From: cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu (Craig Dunigan) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "CD" == Craig Dunigan writes: > > CD> got that won't move off the plate on its own is fine by me. Although > CD> also a former professional cook and therefore a nominal gourmet, I > CD> still savor the distinct pleasure of food that wasn't cooked by > CD> someone sporting green or orange and a surly attitude. :) > > as the auctioneer i can provide you with a surly attitude and maybe i > will sport a green and orange tied dyed t-shirt! :) > > uri > > Heh. Green or orange and a surly attitude sounds like Belfast in the old days, with no offense intended to any of the Irish. It's a good thing your name isn't O'Guttman, or your proposed combined color t-shirt would indicate severe internal conflicts. -- Craig Dunigan IS Technical Services Specialist Middleware - EIS - DoIT University of Wisconsin, Madison opinions expressed are my own, not the University's From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 11:53:08 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:53:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610185308.GB23304@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:26:58PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > Choice of 2 Pastas: Penne, Fettuccini, and Spaghetti penne, spaghetti > Choice of 2 Sauces: Marinara, Alfredo, and Meat marinara, alfredo > Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian Sausage italian sausage > Choice of 2 Entrees: Fried Chicken, BBQ Chicken, BBQ Ribs, and > Fried Catfish Nuggets fried chicken, bbq ribs > Choice of 3 Accompaniments: Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes, Mac & > Cheese, Steamed Green Beans, Red Beans & Rice, Yams, and > Collard Greens collard greens, red beans & rice, yams From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 11:55:11 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:55:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] internet access at the dorms In-Reply-To: <8d4dc1ef0806101147i47195fefh442cc676f6d5b2fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080610120943.6xzrlb0zs40w4w80@webmail.utoronto.ca> <49d805d70806101031o7676bf75pe30bb79a0ed4ab1a@mail.gmail.com> <8d4dc1ef0806101147i47195fefh442cc676f6d5b2fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101155x3d0f1dcbr87fa01b0c03aec9d@mail.gmail.com> > Is there a wired connection as well, or is it just wireless? Wired is available in all of the rooms and wireless throughout the building. > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Joshua McAdams > wrote: >> >> Yes, there is wireless in the dorms. >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:09 AM, wrote: >> > >> > Is there any? I couldn't find anything on the site. >> > >> > Adam >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > yapc mailing list >> > yapc at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 11:56:58 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:56:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site Message-ID: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start. From mike at altrion.org Tue Jun 10 12:00:48 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:00:48 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:56, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a > Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every > page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start I'm not sure our sponsors will like that... ...but I do :) -- Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 12:01:58 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:01:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: (Craig Dunigan's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:51:26 -0500 (CDT)") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "CD" == Craig Dunigan writes: CD> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>>> "CD" == Craig Dunigan writes: >> CD> got that won't move off the plate on its own is fine by me. Although CD> also a former professional cook and therefore a nominal gourmet, I CD> still savor the distinct pleasure of food that wasn't cooked by CD> someone sporting green or orange and a surly attitude. :) >> >> as the auctioneer i can provide you with a surly attitude and maybe i >> will sport a green and orange tied dyed t-shirt! :) CD> Heh. Green or orange and a surly attitude sounds like Belfast in the CD> old days, with no offense intended to any of the Irish. It's a good CD> thing your name isn't O'Guttman, or your proposed combined color CD> t-shirt would indicate severe internal conflicts. i already have many severe internal conflicts so i don't need any more. but remember i said tied dyed and that would not be the usual solid greed or orange of the troubles. the surly attitude comes naturally too. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From mike at altrion.org Tue Jun 10 11:57:49 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:57:49 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <54D5037C-9E6B-49D7-930A-A7B2F365C324@altrion.org> On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:42, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: > if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also > if you can check in a day early, that would be great! > > The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions > " > How do we check into the dorm rooms? > > Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to > check > in there at the front desk" Given that the webpage for MSV says "McCormick Student Village is comprised of six interconnected residence halls...", how do we know which one to check into? -- Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:04:44 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:04:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> :) I couldn't find free site search any more on our sponsors website... it seems to be pay only now. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:56, Joshua McAdams wrote: > >> I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a >> Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every >> page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start > > I'm not sure our sponsors will like that... > > ...but I do :) > -- > Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer > mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ > Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ > IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:08:00 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <54D5037C-9E6B-49D7-930A-A7B2F365C324@altrion.org> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <54D5037C-9E6B-49D7-930A-A7B2F365C324@altrion.org> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101208s39212ac6vd278573b9931ee8e@mail.gmail.com> We have South and East halls. Everyone can probably check in at South. I'm working with housing now on a few final details on that process. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: > > On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:42, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: > >> if anyone has the hours when the desk is open and also >> if you can check in a day early, that would be great! >> >> The only thing I see in the "Questions" wiki is: >> >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions >> " >> How do we check into the dorm rooms? >> >> Each dorm has a lobby area on the first floor. You will be able to >> check >> in there at the front desk" > > Given that the webpage for MSV says "McCormick Student Village is > comprised of six interconnected residence halls...", > how do we know which one to check into? > -- > Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 12:20:31 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:20:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet Message-ID: does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes kosher, halal, and dietary issues. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From szabgab at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:22:17 2008 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:22:17 +0300 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? Message-ID: I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning to meet and try to find the dorms together. Can someone recommend a good meeting point? I see several other people arrive about the same time so if would like to join us, let us know. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html From andy at petdance.com Tue Jun 10 12:23:28 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:23:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11812743-24FA-4D75-9B61-71299D18B052@petdance.com> On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes > kosher, halal, and dietary issues. "Those of you who ordered special meals.... Good move!" -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From fitz at google.com Tue Jun 10 12:23:17 2008 From: fitz at google.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:23:17 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Did you look at http://www.google.com/coop/cse/ ? -Fitz On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > :) I couldn't find free site search any more on our sponsors > website... it seems to be pay only now. > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: >> >> On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:56, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> >>> I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a >>> Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every >>> page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start >> >> I'm not sure our sponsors will like that... >> >> ...but I do :) >> -- >> Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer >> mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ >> Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ >> IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:34:18 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:34:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101234g689d319exa1a0a16e0e7e0f74@mail.gmail.com> I went in through /sitesearch and only saw the paid option. The site now has the Google (one of our sponsors) version of search in the left sidebar. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > Did you look at http://www.google.com/coop/cse/ ? > > -Fitz > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Joshua McAdams > wrote: >> :) I couldn't find free site search any more on our sponsors >> website... it seems to be pay only now. >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: >>> >>> On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:56, Joshua McAdams wrote: >>> >>>> I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a >>>> Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every >>>> page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start >>> >>> I'm not sure our sponsors will like that... >>> >>> ...but I do :) >>> -- >>> Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer >>> mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ >>> Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ >>> IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yapc mailing list >>> yapc at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > From fitz at google.com Tue Jun 10 12:35:19 2008 From: fitz at google.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:35:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101234g689d319exa1a0a16e0e7e0f74@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806101234g689d319exa1a0a16e0e7e0f74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's what I figured. I'm pointing that out to the sitesearch folks. -Fitz On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I went in through /sitesearch and only saw the paid option. The site > now has the Google (one of our sponsors) version of search in the left > sidebar. > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Did you look at http://www.google.com/coop/cse/ ? >> >> -Fitz >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Joshua McAdams >> wrote: >>> :) I couldn't find free site search any more on our sponsors >>> website... it seems to be pay only now. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:56, Joshua McAdams wrote: >>>> >>>>> I had a few people ask, so I added a search to the YAPC site. It's a >>>>> Yahoo search box and it should be available at the bottom of every >>>>> page. I'm not sure how often it is re-indexed, but it's a start >>>> >>>> I'm not sure our sponsors will like that... >>>> >>>> ...but I do :) >>>> -- >>>> Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer >>>> mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ >>>> Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ >>>> IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> yapc mailing list >>>> yapc at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yapc mailing list >>> yapc at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >>> >> > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:39:35 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:39:35 -0500 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806101239h68668800k9c2c0d4a50aa5040@mail.gmail.com> > I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. > Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning > to meet and try to find the dorms together. > > Can someone recommend a good meeting point? Baggage claims are in each terminal, so unless you are in the same terminal, then that's probably not a good place. If you are taking public transportation, then meeting up at the entrance to the L is probably a decent spot. I don't think there is anywhere to sit there, but it is at least an easy point to find. http://www.chicago-l.org/stations/ohare.html From mike at altrion.org Tue Jun 10 12:44:27 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:44:27 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Search Added to Site In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101234g689d319exa1a0a16e0e7e0f74@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806101156k3eedf6d9g984b60eae559af07@mail.gmail.com> <93471166-3D04-413C-BD61-AA45D9D0441C@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101204ja43df90i16df0f5f18a1f7ea@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806101234g689d319exa1a0a16e0e7e0f74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <89ECE989-357C-46BB-B2DE-047F5E7F92C8@altrion.org> On 10 Jun 2008, at 20:34, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I went in through /sitesearch and only saw the paid option. The site > now has the Google (one of our sponsors) version of search in the left > sidebar. Dang. *grin* Me and my big mouth. :) -- Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:53:40 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:53:40 -0500 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806101253h580d0b10o313e0c3081a78326@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. > Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning > to meet and try to find the dorms together. > > Can someone recommend a good meeting point? If not at baggage claim, then (iirc), there's an area before the entrance to the L (there's a machine where you can purchase your CTA pass if you need one). Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/b8be93eb/attachment.html From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 12:55:50 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:55:50 -0400 Subject: [yapc] wireless Message-ID: <29d269c70806101255u5aa40d79kaef2b80f3e006fe3@mail.gmail.com> Are the lecture halls and classrooms on wireless? Is there an access code or is it open? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/7f4e8909/attachment.html From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 13:00:09 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:00:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] wireless Message-ID: Darcy Whyte wrote: > Are the lecture halls and classrooms on wireless? Is there an access code or is it open? In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still have wireless at the con itself. -packy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/831a7e85/attachment.html From ccf3 at mindspring.com Tue Jun 10 13:11:32 2008 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:11:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: <484EAC41.80303@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <484EDFF4.6000404@mindspring.com> Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "CF" == Clyde Forrester writes: >>>>>> > > >> Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian Sausage > >> uri: Italian Sausage > >> > CF> c4ster: grilled chicken strips, meatballs > > what don't you understand about counting to 1!? :) > > Uh... 0, 1, ...doh! I only voted for 2 side dishes, can I count meatballs as a third vegetable? > your vote is hereby disqualified and you will be forced to code in > python for 2 weeks! > If that's an industry standard estimate I can code in python for 1 hour and play nethack for a week and a half. c4 From steve at silug.org Tue Jun 10 13:38:06 2008 From: steve at silug.org (Steven Pritchard) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:06 -0500 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:00:09PM -0400, Packy Anderson wrote: > In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up > ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still > have wireless at the con itself. And this year someone should check to make sure more than a /24 is allocated for IP addresses before the conference gets under way. The first day of YAPC in 2006 was painful. :-) Steve -- Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ Phone: (618)624-4440 Mobile: (618)567-7320 From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:41:57 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:41:57 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social Message-ID: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> I can see that there's some talk in this list about things outside the schedule that I've printed for the conference. (Banquets and such). I joined late and it's a lot of work to figure out what's going on by reading all the messages. Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so I can assess going to them? I'd want to know locations and times, description and cost of anything that's up. That would be most helpful, thanks in advance. Darcy Whyte Darcy at Siteware.com 613-563-3634 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/357d7d81/attachment-0001.html From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 13:45:56 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610204556.GC23304@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:00:09PM -0400, Packy Anderson wrote: > Darcy Whyte wrote: > > Are the lecture halls and classrooms on wireless? Is there an access code > or is it open? > > In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up > ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still > have wireless at the con itself. If memory serves there was wireless supplied by IIT last time, but it was rather flaky. Hopefully those problems have been worked out and things will be better this time. :) From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 13:46:33 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:46:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:42 PM, Darcy Whyte asked. > Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so I can assess going to them? http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=BOF%20schedule From jon.ernster at icrossing.com Tue Jun 10 13:40:44 2008 From: jon.ernster at icrossing.com (Jon Ernster) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:40:44 -0700 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> References: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <484EE6CC.6050601@icrossing.com> Steven Pritchard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:00:09PM -0400, Packy Anderson wrote: > >> In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up >> ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still >> have wireless at the con itself. >> > > And this year someone should check to make sure more than a /24 is > allocated for IP addresses before the conference gets under way. > > The first day of YAPC in 2006 was painful. :-) > > Steve > sprint wireless card ftw. :) -- JON ERNSTER Systems Operations Specialist iCrossing 480.505.5855 direct 602.574.6871 mobile 480.505.5801 fax jon.ernster at icrossing.com www.icrossing.com read our minds at Great Finds, the iCrossing blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/479e7d3d/attachment.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:40:52 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:40:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> References: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> Message-ID: <49d805d70806101340x55ad2b88wf553734645e9a136@mail.gmail.com> I believe that Yaakov has been talking with the network folks at IIT and I've brought that debacle up with the conference coordinator a few times already :) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Steven Pritchard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:00:09PM -0400, Packy Anderson wrote: >> In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up >> ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still >> have wireless at the con itself. > > And this year someone should check to make sure more than a /24 is > allocated for IP addresses before the conference gets under way. > > The first day of YAPC in 2006 was painful. :-) > > Steve > -- > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > Phone: (618)624-4440 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:55:44 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:55:44 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29d269c70806101355n18c7e068m36028a5f9b1fbbd7@mail.gmail.com> Ok, that helps. I clicked through on a bunch of them, but no locations. Is all this stuff on the same premises as the conference? They're organized by topic rather than cron so I guess we have to keep clicking on all of them to see if a schedule has developed? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:42 PM, Darcy Whyte asked. > > Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so I can > assess going to them? > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=BOF%20schedule > -- Darcy Whyte Darcy at Siteware.com 613-563-3634 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/d196a3a4/attachment.html From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 13:59:22 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:59:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080610205922.GD23304@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:41:57PM -0400, Darcy Whyte wrote: > I can see that there's some talk in this list about things outside the > schedule that I've printed for the conference. (Banquets and such). I joined > late and it's a lot of work to figure out what's going on by reading all the > messages. Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so > I can assess going to them? > > I'd want to know locations and times, description and cost of anything > that's up. The banquet Tuesday night is included in the cost of the conference. That's right on campus, I believe in the same building where the conference sessions will be held. That wasn't on the online schedule a few days ago, but it's up there now. The pre-conference dinner Sunday night is not; that's an extra $30. Alternatively there's the anti-pre-conference dinner Sunday night, which will likely be a bit cheaper. Directions to the Goose Island Brewpub, site of the pre-conference dinner, are up on the wiki. Or just follow the large group of people who'll be heading out from IIT on the L. There will undoubtedly be other ad hoc outings, but those are the major ones. You might also want to check out the BOF schedule on the wiki. Walt From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 13:46:33 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:46:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:42 PM, Darcy Whyte asked. > Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so I can assess going to them? http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=BOF%20schedule From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 14:05:03 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:05:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806101405v2fc0c686n75e8ded01c8022d1@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:42 PM, Darcy Whyte asked. > > Can someone summarize that activities have been planned so far so I can > assess going to them? > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=BOF%20schedule Also, there's some ad hoc stuff that happens. Different groups of people get together to go somewhere to eat, drink, or whatever. In Houston, we tried to put up a sheet for people to post things, such as groups going to lunches, etc. I don't remember how well that went over or how much it was used (I was preoccupied ;-) ). I'd say keep an ear open in between sessions, especially before lunch and after the last talk of the day. Several BOFs happen during lunch and after the talks, and sometimes people organize during the BOF to go do something. Also, most of the BOFs haven't been "scheduled" yet, but that typically happens once people get to the venue and figure out where everything is. Probably on Monday, many of the BOFs will have a date, time, and place. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/370d1324/attachment-0001.html From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 14:09:13 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:09:13 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806101355n18c7e068m36028a5f9b1fbbd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806101355n18c7e068m36028a5f9b1fbbd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080610210913.GE23304@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:55:44PM -0400, Darcy Whyte wrote: > Ok, that helps. I clicked through on a bunch of them, but no locations. Is > all this stuff on the same premises as the conference? > > They're organized by topic rather than cron so I guess we have to keep > clicking on all of them to see if a schedule has developed? The BOFs tend to get organized via the wiki. There some rooms at the conference site where some of them were held. The building itself it pretty spacious so some of them were just held in the hallways. I think there was also something to announce BOFs up by the registration table. If there are BOFs you're particularly interested in, you don't need to worry about missing them. Things will start to come together more once people arrive and get a feel for the space. From joe at virtualmin.com Tue Jun 10 14:19:57 2008 From: joe at virtualmin.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:19:57 -0700 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <484EEFFD.60409@virtualmin.com> Uri Guttman wrote: > ok all of you, and i mean ALL of you. this is about the food at the > banquet. > A TASTE OF ITALY BUFFET (90 servings) Sounds like marinara has won the day here, so I don't need to add anything. > dunno about if we choose pecan vs sweet potato pie for > dessert. i will ask. If there's a choice to be made, pecan is the obvious answer. Though I'm suspicious of any pecan pie prepared above the Mason-Dixon (or by anyone other than my mom). > MIDDLE EAST BUFFET (30 servings for veggie/vegans) I'll be setting up camp here. Falafel and hummus, FTW. It sounds like serving count has already been adjusted upward to reasonable levels, so I don't need to worry about dirty omnivores making eyes at my tabouli. Thanks rustling up the vittles, Uri. From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 14:18:15 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:15 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:55:44PM -0400, Darcy Whyte wrote: > Ok, that helps. I clicked through on a bunch of them, but no > locations. Is all this stuff on the same premises as the conference? > > They're organized by topic rather than cron so I guess we have to keep > clicking on all of them to see if a schedule has developed? I just updated the BOF schedule to indicate which BOFs had times (even rough ones) already; if we keep this current, it'll be easy to see when things are happening. I'm also taking this opportunity to plug the Tony Awards BOF: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=TonyAwards%20BOF I thought briefly about trying to compare less-popular features from Perl 6 with this season's crop of nominees, but this season's so dismal it wouldn't be fair to Perl 6. But theater geeks should come anyway, because missing the Tonys is like missing Larry's keynote. -packy From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 14:25:09 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:25:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> (Darcy Whyte's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:41:57 -0400") References: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DW" == Darcy Whyte writes: DW> I can see that there's some talk in this list about things outside DW> the schedule that I've printed for the conference. (Banquets and DW> such). I joined late and it's a lot of work to figure out what's DW> going on by reading all the messages. Can someone summarize that DW> activities have been planned so far so I can assess going to them? DW> I'd want to know locations and times, description and cost of DW> anything that's up. as others have said most of the events are scheduled and on the wiki. monday night is open and there will be many ad hoc outings (last time in chicago many went to due's for deep dish pizza in several large and separate groups). there may be a movie event in the dorm common space if we can use a tv in there. dave adler is bringing dvds, possibly one he ordered for me if he gets it on time. others can bring appropriate dvds too (you know, tasteless, goofy, sexy, sci fi!). there is no official schedule for this movie event so keep your ears peeled and read this list. yapc is a very fluid conference so just make new friends and ask them what they are planning. groups coelesce and break up like oil drops in water. uri, who can't babysit all yapc newbies -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 10 14:45:41 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:45:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <484EEFFD.60409@virtualmin.com> (Joe Cooper's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:19:57 -0700") References: <484EEFFD.60409@virtualmin.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JC" == Joe Cooper writes: JC> Uri Guttman wrote: >> ok all of you, and i mean ALL of you. this is about the food at the >> banquet. >> dunno about if we choose pecan vs sweet potato pie for >> dessert. i will ask. JC> If there's a choice to be made, pecan is the obvious answer. Though I'm JC> suspicious of any pecan pie prepared above the Mason-Dixon (or by anyone JC> other than my mom). i haven't asked about that. and yes, you can make a good pecan pie up north. you just can't find them everywhere. i know a great pie shop in somerville MA. :) JC> Thanks rustling up the vittles, Uri. just thank jed clampett and granny instead! and it is victuals! :) uri, the speller of wierd hillbilly words -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From karen.cravens at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 15:10:33 2008 From: karen.cravens at gmail.com (Karen) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:10:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7cc7c1ce0806101510g16fb8304o99426677b3bcd4e1@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > I just updated the BOF schedule to indicate which BOFs had times (even > rough ones) already; if we keep this current, it'll be easy to see > when things are happening. And I just updated the schedule to actually put the stuff on the by-date part at the bottom, which everyone forgets about because it's below the fold. And because there hasn't been anything on it up until recently. I resisted the temptation to just arbitrarily stick everything on the schedule somewhere. From trey at lopsa.org Tue Jun 10 15:29:33 2008 From: trey at lopsa.org (Trey Harris) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Linens? Message-ID: In one message I saw that "linen service is provided". In another message, I saw "bring a towel". So what does "linen service" consist of? Just sheets and a pillow? So towels and washcloths are our responsibility? Is there soap in the bathrooms? Trey (who had no clue the dorms lack a/c and can't possibly pack a fan in his luggage) -- Trey Harris http://www.lopsa.org/ President, LOPSA -- The League of Professional System Administrators Opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of LOPSA. From joe at virtualmin.com Tue Jun 10 15:37:44 2008 From: joe at virtualmin.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:37:44 -0700 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: <484EEFFD.60409@virtualmin.com> Message-ID: <484F0238.9070509@virtualmin.com> Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "JC" == Joe Cooper writes: > JC> Thanks rustling up the vittles, Uri. > > just thank jed clampett and granny instead! > > and it is victuals! :) Maybe it is for you yanks, but it aint where I come from. From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 15:41:04 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: <484EEFFD.60409@virtualmin.com> Message-ID: <20080610224104.GU7958@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:45:41PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > uri, the speller of wierd hillbilly words And misspeller of non-weird words! From scott at slowass.net Tue Jun 10 14:22:35 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:22:35 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Linens? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610212235.GE26282@slowass.net> Hey Trey, Last year, not only did they not have soap, but the on campus student book store (which was quite large) didn't sell it. By the time I left (and I came in on Greyhound from Arizona), I smelled putrid and I had still been asked for soap at least a dozen times. I think they were trying to foster the stereotype in Houston that students are dirty hippies. There wasn't soap at YAPC two years ago in Chicago either but I had remembered to bring some. So, my advice is bring soap as if you were going to Buring Man and it was your barter item. Bring cases of soap. No point washing yourself and smelling everyone else. -scott On 0, Trey Harris wrote: > In one message I saw that "linen service is provided". In another > message, I saw "bring a towel". > > So what does "linen service" consist of? Just sheets and a pillow? So > towels and washcloths are our responsibility? Is there soap in the > bathrooms? > > Trey > (who had no clue the dorms lack a/c and can't possibly pack a fan in his > luggage) > > -- > Trey Harris http://www.lopsa.org/ > President, LOPSA -- The League of Professional System Administrators > Opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of LOPSA. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 15:51:49 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:51:49 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social Message-ID: <29d269c70806101551r2e6a0710p9f09f36a25c0d6c@mail.gmail.com> Ok, thanks everyone. I won't panic anymore! :) Darcy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080610/a90a3932/attachment.html From drforr at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 15:52:58 2008 From: drforr at pobox.com (drforr at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:52:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: References: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "DW" == Darcy Whyte writes: > > DW> I can see that there's some talk in this list about things outside > DW> the schedule that I've printed for the conference. (Banquets and > DW> such). I joined late and it's a lot of work to figure out what's > DW> going on by reading all the messages. Can someone summarize that > DW> activities have been planned so far so I can assess going to them? > > DW> I'd want to know locations and times, description and cost of > DW> anything that's up. > > as others have said most of the events are scheduled and on the > wiki. monday night is open and there will be many ad hoc outings (last > time in chicago many went to due's for deep dish pizza in several large > and separate groups). there may be a movie event in the dorm common > space if we can use a tv in there. dave adler is bringing dvds, possibly > one he ordered for me if he gets it on time. others can bring > appropriate dvds too (you know, tasteless, goofy, sexy, sci fi!). there > is no official schedule for this movie event so keep your ears peeled > and read this list. yapc is a very fluid conference so just make new > friends and ask them what they are planning. groups coelesce and break > up like oil drops in water. As the ersatz "organizer" of the MST3K BOF my official time is "some evening, probably Tuesday or Wednesday." And my contact suggestions are "Look for the guy wearing either a Yellowstone T-shirt or (if I can find it) a Origami USA T-shirt." Hopefully this gives you a more visceral notion of how informal these BOFs are. > > uri, who can't babysit all yapc newbies > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com > -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html > --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix - From kent at c2group.net Tue Jun 10 15:55:29 2008 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:55:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm A/C (was: Re: Linens?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C0B3942-7C07-4A5A-99E3-0CF3E83AC92B@c2group.net> On Jun 10, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Trey Harris wrote: > Trey > (who had no clue the dorms lack a/c and can't possibly pack a fan in > his > luggage) An earlier message on this list that may have indicated a lack of A/C was specifically NOT about the dorms at IIT - it was about rooms at a different conference. Someone else might've chimed in, lending weight to the idea. Rest assured, the dorms for this YAPC are likely to be quite cold, assuming they're set to a similarly meat-freezing temperature as they were 2 years ago. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 10 15:53:44 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:53:44 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Linens? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080610225344.GV7958@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 06:29:33PM -0400, Trey Harris wrote: > In one message I saw that "linen service is provided". In another > message, I saw "bring a towel". > > So what does "linen service" consist of? Just sheets and a pillow? So > towels and washcloths are our responsibility? Is there soap in the > bathrooms? http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PackingList > Trey > (who had no clue the dorms lack a/c and can't possibly pack a fan in his > luggage) The long-term forecast for Chicago has evening temperatures in the low-to-mid 60s, so they dorms should be comfortable with or without A/C. From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 10 16:04:50 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:04:50 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Linens? Message-ID: On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:30 PM, Trey Harris asked: > In one message I saw that "linen service is provided". In another message, I saw "bring a towel". I'm also not sure if this referred to the Houston conference as well. Back in 2006, I stayed in the "prison dorms" (which I found quite pleasant) and I found the towels they provided quite serviceable, but YMMV. I didn't notice whether they provided toiletries besides toilet paper, since I always travel with a fully-stocked kit (why use tiny hotel soaps when I can bring my own?). -packy From ann at domaintje.com Tue Jun 10 16:24:01 2008 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [yapc] Dorm A/C (was: Re: Linens?) In-Reply-To: <3C0B3942-7C07-4A5A-99E3-0CF3E83AC92B@c2group.net> References: <3C0B3942-7C07-4A5A-99E3-0CF3E83AC92B@c2group.net> Message-ID: <20080611011935.E99302@primus.biocede.com> Kent wrote: > Rest assured, the dorms for this YAPC are likely to be quite cold, > assuming they're set to a similarly meat-freezing temperature as they > were 2 years ago. The SSV dorms were indeed cold (and many other things), but the MSV dorms were comfortable (I stayed in MSV). This year, only the MSV dorms are available, so I wouldn't worry about it being too cold. - Ann From szabgab at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 18:28:20 2008 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:28:20 +0300 Subject: [yapc] outside social In-Reply-To: References: <29d269c70806101341qb506f0doaf1b49c7ec641d53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can also suggest to make sure you see Jos?s' expos? on "How to get the most out of a YAPC? " http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1120 Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 18:32:17 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:32:17 -0700 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> References: <9FE118AE-1BD8-47B4-A394-17EA472A91FC@hoofnagle.org> <484E80FB.8070201@plusthree.com> <484E86ED.8000400@buffalo.edu> Message-ID: > That's my experience too. The meat-eaters often sample everything and if > you're a veggie and you're late to the line, you could be out of luck. krishnoid++ -- in addition, consider that veg*ns need to eat a larger volume of food because 2 oz of vegetables doesn't fill you up like 2 oz of meat. So sizable herbivores who are already big eaters tend to eat more vegetables than a comparable volume of meat. So when competing with omnivores for veg*n options, we worry about coming up short. I suggest erring on the side of more veg*n servings. Hungry hungry hacker, Krishna From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 19:56:17 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:56:17 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Linens? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806101956r77b50d99ud3069bd1f9ba9cc1@mail.gmail.com> You're on your own as far as toiletries, but towels, sheets, a quilt, and a pillow are provided. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:30 PM, Trey Harris asked: >> In one message I saw that "linen service is provided". In another message, I saw "bring a towel". > > I'm also not sure if this referred to the Houston conference as well. > Back in 2006, I stayed in the > "prison dorms" (which I found quite pleasant) and I found the towels > they provided quite serviceable, > but YMMV. I didn't notice whether they provided toiletries besides > toilet paper, since I always > travel with a fully-stocked kit (why use tiny hotel soaps when I can > bring my own?). > > -packy > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From hachi at kuiki.net Tue Jun 10 21:08:23 2008 From: hachi at kuiki.net (Jonathan Steinert) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:08:23 -0700 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101340x55ad2b88wf553734645e9a136@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> <49d805d70806101340x55ad2b88wf553734645e9a136@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080611040822.GA4513@miyako.sixapart.com> I also have all of the network gear from last year, plus a couple more and they're coming with me. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:40:52PM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I believe that Yaakov has been talking with the network folks at IIT > and I've brought that debacle up with the conference coordinator a few > times already :) > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Steven Pritchard wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:00:09PM -0400, Packy Anderson wrote: > >> In the past, the conference organizers have brought wireless gear and set up > >> ad-hoc networks in the lecture halls so those not staying in the dorms still > >> have wireless at the con itself. > > > > And this year someone should check to make sure more than a /24 is > > allocated for IP addresses before the conference gets under way. > > > > The first day of YAPC in 2006 was painful. :-) > > > > Steve > > -- > > Steven Pritchard - K&S Pritchard Enterprises, Inc. > > Email: steve at kspei.com http://www.kspei.com/ > > Phone: (618)624-4440 Mobile: (618)567-7320 > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "She smiled again, shrugged her shoulders, and became a perfect mirror." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From diakopter at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 21:08:45 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:08:45 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm A/C (was: Re: Linens?) In-Reply-To: <20080611011935.E99302@primus.biocede.com> References: <3C0B3942-7C07-4A5A-99E3-0CF3E83AC92B@c2group.net> <20080611011935.E99302@primus.biocede.com> Message-ID: >> Rest assured, the dorms for this YAPC are likely to be quite cold, >> assuming they're set to a similarly meat-freezing temperature as they >> were 2 years ago. > > The SSV dorms were indeed cold (and many other things), but the MSV > dorms were comfortable (I stayed in MSV). This year, only the MSV > dorms are available, so I wouldn't worry about it being too cold. Please see http://www.housing.iit.edu/pdf/IIT-handbook_fnl.pdf pages 27-28 for clarification and further details.... From jay at jays.net Wed Jun 11 03:47:53 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:47:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. > Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning > to meet and try to find the dorms together. > > Can someone recommend a good meeting point? > > I see several other people arrive about the same time so > if would like to join us, let us know. I'm in at 14:59: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ luggage... :) j From will at coleda.com Wed Jun 11 05:51:43 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:51:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> References: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Jay Hannah wrote: > On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. >> Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning >> to meet and try to find the dorms together. >> >> Can someone recommend a good meeting point? >> >> I see several other people arrive about the same time so >> if would like to join us, let us know. > > I'm in at 14:59: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir > > Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ > luggage... :) > > j > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Anyone have a back-of-the-napkin estimate for the cost of a cab ride from O'Hare to the dorms? -- Will "Coke" Coleda From rGeoffrey at PlatypiVentures.com Wed Jun 11 06:58:14 2008 From: rGeoffrey at PlatypiVentures.com (R. Geoffrey Avery) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:58:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Submit your lightning talk for Chicago Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20080611085226.02f84fd0@mail.PlatypiVentures.com> Not giving a full length talk but have something to say? Want to break into speaking with something a little quicker? Here is your chance to get one third of your 15 minutes of fame. Submit (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/newtalk) your lightning talk (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/950) today. The first deadline has come and gone but there are still spots left. If you are a first time speaker you have an even better chance of being accepted. - Geoff PS. Lightning talks for Portland and Copenhagen will be open for submission soon. From sean at seandmurray.com Wed Jun 11 06:43:43 2008 From: sean at seandmurray.com (sean) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:43:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> Message-ID: <200806110843.43843.sean@seandmurray.com> On Wednesday 11 June 2008 07:51:43 Will Coleda wrote: > Anyone have a back-of-the-napkin estimate for the cost of a cab ride > from O'Hare to the dorms? Here is the chicago city cab fare guide. http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?contentOID=536913260&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Consumer+Services%2FTaxi+Cab+Information%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Consumer+Services&deptMainCategoryOID=-536889926 State and Madison to O?Hare: $30 - $35. I'd add another ~$10 to get you to IIT, YMMV literally ;-) Welcome to the city of Big shoulders :-) and my Alma mater. Sean From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 11 11:32:47 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:32:47 -0700 Subject: [yapc] banquet menu and choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BB57ACC-0FA1-4D92-9508-E3883526F082@kineticode.com> On Jun 9, 2008, at 20:26, Uri Guttman wrote: > Choice of 1 Meat: Grilled Chicken Strips, Meatballs, and Italian > Sausage theory: Grilled Chicken Strips > SOUTHERN BUFFET (90 servings) > Choice of 2 Entrees: Fried Chicken, BBQ Chicken, BBQ Ribs, and > Fried Catfish Nuggets theory: BBQ Chicken, Fried Catfish Nuggets > > Choice of 3 Accompaniments: Baked Beans, Corn Cobettes, Mac & > Cheese, Steamed Green Beans, Red Beans & Rice, Yams, and > Collard Greens theory: Mac & Cheese, Yams, Baked Beans > Best, David From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 11 11:34:03 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:03 -0700 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: <20080611040822.GA4513@miyako.sixapart.com> References: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> <49d805d70806101340x55ad2b88wf553734645e9a136@mail.gmail.com> <20080611040822.GA4513@miyako.sixapart.com> Message-ID: On Jun 10, 2008, at 21:08, Jonathan Steinert wrote: > I also have all of the network gear from last year, plus a couple more > and they're coming with me. Should those of us who can bring extra WiFi base stations? I have an AirPort Express I can throw in my bag? Best, David From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 11 11:43:04 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:43:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] ORD to Pre-Conference Dinner 17:00-ish on Sunday Message-ID: <9EF19004-DE8A-4D40-ABC8-F12DABF5CA31@kineticode.com> Howdy, My flight gets into ORD at 17:06 on Sunday, and following on an earlier thread, I'm going to try to go directly to the pre-conference dinner from there. Anyone want to share cab fare? Best, David From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Jun 11 11:48:25 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:48:25 -0700 Subject: [yapc] ORD to Pre-Conference Dinner 17:00-ish on Sunday In-Reply-To: <9EF19004-DE8A-4D40-ABC8-F12DABF5CA31@kineticode.com> (David E. Wheeler's message of "Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:43:04 -0700") References: <9EF19004-DE8A-4D40-ABC8-F12DABF5CA31@kineticode.com> Message-ID: <86wskvyfie.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "David" == David E Wheeler writes: David> My flight gets into ORD at 17:06 on Sunday, and following on an David> earlier thread, I'm going to try to go directly to the pre-conference David> dinner from there. Anyone want to share cab fare? I get in at 4:40pm, and could hang around a few minutes and cab it with you. That's probably safer than dragging my bags through the CTA anyway. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 11 11:48:31 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:48:31 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806101208s39212ac6vd278573b9931ee8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <54D5037C-9E6B-49D7-930A-A7B2F365C324@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101208s39212ac6vd278573b9931ee8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:08, Joshua McAdams wrote: > We have South and East halls. Everyone can probably check in at > South. I'm working with housing now on a few final details on that > process. I assume that I'll be able to check in after the Pre-Conference dinner, yes? Thanks, David From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 12:13:57 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:13:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <6484CF3F-C4F8-45CB-AB53-78672C03D27E@hoofnagle.org> <20080610141839.GB20518@vs2.capwiz.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C41@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <54D5037C-9E6B-49D7-930A-A7B2F365C324@altrion.org> <49d805d70806101208s39212ac6vd278573b9931ee8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806111213n798fc6buc1bc974d67abfaf1@mail.gmail.com> There will be dorm checkin available 24x7. Early registration will probably be closed by that point, but it will be available Monday morning. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:48 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:08, Joshua McAdams wrote: > >> We have South and East halls. Everyone can probably check in at >> South. I'm working with housing now on a few final details on that >> process. > > I assume that I'll be able to check in after the Pre-Conference dinner, yes? > > Thanks, > > David > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 12:15:26 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:15:26 -0500 Subject: [yapc] wireless In-Reply-To: References: <20080610203806.GA19288@osiris.silug.org> <49d805d70806101340x55ad2b88wf553734645e9a136@mail.gmail.com> <20080611040822.GA4513@miyako.sixapart.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806111215r29f6e7c2j3dfebac084eadde4@mail.gmail.com> The official word from IIT is that you won't need them, but it never hurts to be prepared :) On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 10, 2008, at 21:08, Jonathan Steinert wrote: > >> I also have all of the network gear from last year, plus a couple more >> and they're coming with me. > > Should those of us who can bring extra WiFi base stations? I have an > AirPort Express I can throw in my bag? > > Best, > > David > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 11 12:15:57 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:15:57 -0700 Subject: [yapc] ORD to Pre-Conference Dinner 17:00-ish on Sunday In-Reply-To: <86wskvyfie.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <9EF19004-DE8A-4D40-ABC8-F12DABF5CA31@kineticode.com> <86wskvyfie.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <14D58B66-57EC-4DDE-9C95-EB8CA34F64CA@kineticode.com> On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > David> My flight gets into ORD at 17:06 on Sunday, and following on an > David> earlier thread, I'm going to try to go directly to the pre- > conference > David> dinner from there. Anyone want to share cab fare? > > I get in at 4:40pm, and could hang around a few minutes and cab it > with you. > That's probably safer than dragging my bags through the CTA anyway. Cool. Looks like I'm flying into Terminal 1 (I'm on United from PDX). I'll probably have a checked back. You? Best, David From yapc at packy.org Wed Jun 11 12:23:59 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:23:59 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Packing for YAPC Message-ID: On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:14 PM, Josh McAdams announced: > There will be dorm checkin available 24x7. Woo-HOO! Thank you, Josh! I was wondering what my fiancee and I were going to do with our luggage between 10am when our train arrived and 3pm when it looked like we could get into the dorms. -packy From ddaupert at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 11 14:25:18 2008 From: ddaupert at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Daupert) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC Message-ID: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there a particular place to park near MVC? And will we be able to park there while we go to the lobby to pick up the parking pass? As I recall from previous Chicago YAPC, there was a parking area directly behind the prison dorm, but it had a locked gate that wanted a parking pass. /dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080611/e6294075/attachment.html From yapc at galumph.com Wed Jun 11 19:59:56 2008 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:59:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend Message-ID: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. Red Line: http://tinyurl.com/5j2nh2 Blue Line: http://tinyurl.com/2hhund There's also work on the Yellow Line, but that's far north; I highly doubt anyone from out of town cares about that one. === Blue Line Temporary Service Interruption ? Jefferson Park (accessible) to Harlem (accessible) 9 p.m., Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 Due to tie replacement to eliminate slow zones, Blue Line service will be temporarily interrupted between the Jefferson Park and Harlem stations. Shuttle buses* will operate in both directions between these stations. Please allow extra travel time. *Note: The bus shuttle is free to customers transferring from trains at Jefferson Park(to O?Hare) and Harlem (to Downtown). === Red Line Subway Trains Rerouted to Loop Elevated Tracks on Weekend Effective the following days and times: 9 p.m. Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 Due to Red Line subway construction, Red Line trains will operate on the Loop elevated tracks between the Fullerton and Cermak/Chinatown stations. Trains will make all elevated stops from Roosevelt (accessible) to Fullerton in both directions. Note: Merchandise Mart (accessible) is exit only via stairway on Saturday from 12:50 a.m. to 5:10 a.m., Sunday from 12:50 a.m. until 7:10 a.m., and weekday mornings from 12:55 a.m. to 5:10 a.m. Alternate shuttle bus service will operate until 3 a.m. on Monday as follows: ?Between Clark/Division and North/Clybourn Shuttle Stops: Clark/Division (Red Line), North/Sedgwick (accessible) (Brown Line) (entrance on Hudson) and North/Clybourn (Red Line). ?Between Grand/State and Wells/Superior Shuttle Stops: Grand (Red Line), Chicago (accessible) (Red Line) and Wells/Superior (walk one-half block west to the Chicago/Franklin (Brown Line) station entrance on Superior) ?Between Roosevelt/State (accessible) and Jackson/State Shuttle Stops: Adams/Wabash, Jackson/State (accessible), Harrison/State and Roosevelt/State (accessible). Southbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated station along Lake or Wabash on Inner Loop track. Northbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated station along Wabash or Lake on Outer Loop track. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 21:06:11 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:06:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> > Is there a particular place to park near MVC? And will we be able to park > there while we go to the lobby to pick up the parking pass? > > As I recall from previous Chicago YAPC, there was a parking area directly > behind the prison dorm, but it had a locked gate that wanted a parking pass. We should use the same parking lot this year. It is just South of the MSV dorms. Looking at the conference map [http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf], that's about it. If you do get there and the gate is closed and won't open, the campus police number is 312-808-6363. Call them and let them know what you are trying to do. It's much easier to be proactive than to try to get them to reverse a ticket. From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 11 21:12:52 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:12:52 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out Message-ID: hi all blues fans, i googled for eddie shaw in chicago and to my delight and surprise he is playing this friday and saturday night at kingston mines on north halstead. this is the area with most of the chicago blues clubs. i went to one the last time and had fun. if anyone is interested in going let me know. i used to see eddie shaw and the wolf gang when they played in boston about 25 years ago. i got to know the bass player and eddie's son who is a wicked good guitar player. i think they are still with the band (or at least i hope they are). i wouldn't be surprised if they remember me! cover charge is $15 and the show starts at 9:30 with an opening act. eddie is supposed to go on at 10:30 or so. this area is easily accessible by the el (i will have to research the route again) and it was a few blocks walk from the nearest station. so call this a blues bof and let's hear some great chicago blues! uri, who is so happy to see this band again. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From tyemq at cpan.org Wed Jun 11 21:20:30 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:30 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm Message-ID: I was planning on taking the train from O'Hare when I got in Sunday evening (based on information from the YAPC web sites) and the below links got me to a site where I could plan my trip in more detail. The "next" train after my 6:20pm arrival is 11pm! I've changed my mind based on not wanting to sit in an airport for 4.5 hours! So if you are planning to take the train and haven't looked in detail at that idea, you might want to do so now: http://transitchicago.com/ has a form labeled "google trip planner" and "O'Hare" to "3300 S Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL" appears to get you quite close to the dorms. I've added myself to http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir in hopes of finding somebody who wants to share a cab around that time (not a lot of entries near that time slot so far). Thanks, Tye On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Elliot Shank wrote: > Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially > from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. > > Red Line: http://tinyurl.com/5j2nh2 > Blue Line: http://tinyurl.com/2hhund > > There's also work on the Yellow Line, but that's far north; I highly doubt > anyone from out of town cares about that one. > > === > > Blue Line Temporary Service Interruption ? Jefferson Park (accessible) to > Harlem (accessible) > > 9 p.m., Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 > > Due to tie replacement to eliminate slow zones, Blue Line service will be > temporarily interrupted between the Jefferson Park and Harlem stations. > Shuttle buses* will operate in both directions between these stations. > > Please allow extra travel time. > > *Note: The bus shuttle is free to customers transferring from trains at > Jefferson Park(to O'Hare) and Harlem (to Downtown). > > === > > Red Line Subway Trains Rerouted to Loop Elevated Tracks on Weekend > > Effective the following days and times: > > 9 p.m. Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 > > Due to Red Line subway construction, Red Line trains will operate on the > Loop elevated tracks between the Fullerton and Cermak/Chinatown stations. > Trains will make all elevated stops from Roosevelt (accessible) to Fullerton > in both directions. > > Note: Merchandise Mart (accessible) is exit only via stairway on Saturday > from 12:50 a.m. to 5:10 a.m., Sunday from 12:50 a.m. until 7:10 a.m., and > weekday mornings from 12:55 a.m. to 5:10 a.m. > > Alternate shuttle bus service will operate until 3 a.m. on Monday as > follows: > > ?Between Clark/Division and North/Clybourn > Shuttle Stops: Clark/Division (Red Line), North/Sedgwick (accessible) > (Brown Line) (entrance on Hudson) and North/Clybourn (Red Line). > > ?Between Grand/State and Wells/Superior > Shuttle Stops: Grand (Red Line), Chicago (accessible) (Red Line) and > Wells/Superior (walk one-half block west to the Chicago/Franklin (Brown > Line) station entrance on Superior) > > ?Between Roosevelt/State (accessible) and Jackson/State > Shuttle Stops: Adams/Wabash, Jackson/State (accessible), Harrison/State and > Roosevelt/State (accessible). > > Southbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated > station along Lake or Wabash on Inner Loop track. > > Northbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated > station along Wabash or Lake on Outer Loop track. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080611/bedd2b72/attachment-0001.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 21:38:08 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:38:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806112138m18fe6c47qe5a75b8ca41ea36e@mail.gmail.com> One more note, you'll be going to 3300 S State, not Michigan. The walk is not far, but if you put your end point that far east you'll end up on a bus instead of the L on some of the itineraries. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Tye McQueen wrote: > I was planning on taking the train from O'Hare when I got in Sunday evening > (based on information from the YAPC web sites) and the below links got me to > a site where I could plan my trip in more detail. > > The "next" train after my 6:20pm arrival is 11pm! I've changed my mind > based on not wanting to sit in an airport for 4.5 hours! > > So if you are planning to take the train and haven't looked in detail at > that idea, you might want to do so now: > > http://transitchicago.com/ has a form labeled "google trip planner" and > "O'Hare" to "3300 S Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL" appears to get you quite > close to the dorms. > > I've added myself to > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir in hopes of > finding somebody who wants to share a cab around that time (not a lot of > entries near that time slot so far). > > Thanks, > Tye > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Elliot Shank wrote: >> >> Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially >> from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. >> >> Red Line: http://tinyurl.com/5j2nh2 >> Blue Line: http://tinyurl.com/2hhund >> >> There's also work on the Yellow Line, but that's far north; I highly doubt >> anyone from out of town cares about that one. >> >> === >> >> Blue Line Temporary Service Interruption ? Jefferson Park (accessible) to >> Harlem (accessible) >> >> 9 p.m., Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 >> >> Due to tie replacement to eliminate slow zones, Blue Line service will be >> temporarily interrupted between the Jefferson Park and Harlem stations. >> Shuttle buses* will operate in both directions between these stations. >> >> Please allow extra travel time. >> >> *Note: The bus shuttle is free to customers transferring from trains at >> Jefferson Park(to O'Hare) and Harlem (to Downtown). >> >> === >> >> Red Line Subway Trains Rerouted to Loop Elevated Tracks on Weekend >> >> Effective the following days and times: >> >> 9 p.m. Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 >> >> Due to Red Line subway construction, Red Line trains will operate on the >> Loop elevated tracks between the Fullerton and Cermak/Chinatown stations. >> Trains will make all elevated stops from Roosevelt (accessible) to Fullerton >> in both directions. >> >> Note: Merchandise Mart (accessible) is exit only via stairway on Saturday >> from 12:50 a.m. to 5:10 a.m., Sunday from 12:50 a.m. until 7:10 a.m., and >> weekday mornings from 12:55 a.m. to 5:10 a.m. >> >> Alternate shuttle bus service will operate until 3 a.m. on Monday as >> follows: >> >> ?Between Clark/Division and North/Clybourn >> Shuttle Stops: Clark/Division (Red Line), North/Sedgwick (accessible) >> (Brown Line) (entrance on Hudson) and North/Clybourn (Red Line). >> >> ?Between Grand/State and Wells/Superior >> Shuttle Stops: Grand (Red Line), Chicago (accessible) (Red Line) and >> Wells/Superior (walk one-half block west to the Chicago/Franklin (Brown >> Line) station entrance on Superior) >> >> ?Between Roosevelt/State (accessible) and Jackson/State >> Shuttle Stops: Adams/Wabash, Jackson/State (accessible), Harrison/State >> and Roosevelt/State (accessible). >> >> Southbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated >> station along Lake or Wabash on Inner Loop track. >> >> Northbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated >> station along Wabash or Lake on Outer Loop track. >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From frag at ripco.com Wed Jun 11 22:22:21 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Tye McQueen wrote: > I was planning on taking the train from O'Hare when I got in Sunday evening > (based on information from the YAPC web sites) and the below links got me to > a site where I could plan my trip in more detail. > > The "next" train after my 6:20pm arrival is 11pm! I've changed my mind > based on not wanting to sit in an airport for 4.5 hours! That can't be right. The blue line runs every 10 minutes or so, 24 hours a day. I tried the same service from the home page of transitchicago.com, just using the default destination (1 N. State Street): http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&f=d&saddr=O'Hare,+Chicago&daddr=1+N+State+St,+Chicago,+IL&ttype=dep&date=06%2F15&time=18:20&dirflg=r&z=11 and the times show trains departing every 10 minutes. However, what is true is that for this weekend, if you're taking the blue line in, they'll make you disembark at Harlem, and board a shuttle bus (for free), which will take you to the Jefferson Park station, where you'll reboard the train. (See Elliot Shank's previous email, or the Getting Around wiki page.) -- Mike F. From szabgab at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 22:45:01 2008 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:45:01 +0300 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> References: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Jay Hannah wrote: > On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. >> Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning >> to meet and try to find the dorms together. >> >> Can someone recommend a good meeting point? >> >> I see several other people arrive about the same time so >> if would like to join us, let us know. > > I'm in at 14:59: > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir > > Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ > luggage... :) I am arriving on terminal 5 (international) at 15:20. I guess all the others arrive in one of the internal terminals So let's meet at the entrance of CTA at around 16:00 and then we'll see if we all fit in one cab and if it is split in enough parts. my mobile is +972-54-4624648 (international) and I am not yet sure it is going to work there. It hardly works at all :-) Gabor From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 22:54:14 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:54:14 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend In-Reply-To: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> References: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> Message-ID: > Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. For those of you taking public transit for planned trips, one handy thing I've just found is that you can enter source and destination in google maps, then click 'Public Transit' under search results, then click 'Options'. Under there you can list a departure or must-arrive-by time, and it will show you the public transit options that leave/arrive around then. Krishna From rdice at pobox.com Thu Jun 12 05:24:12 2008 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:24:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> Is this the procedure for those of us who bought a parking pass online? We claim our pass by calling the campus police and ask them for it? What documentation do we show them to get them to give it to us? > We should use the same parking lot this year. It is just South of the > MSV dorms. Looking at the conference map [http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf], > that's about it. > > If you do get there and the gate is closed and won't open, the campus > police number is 312-808-6363. Call them and let them know what you > are trying to do. It's much easier to be proactive than to try to get > them to reverse a ticket. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080612/b6e233cb/attachment.html From karen at hoofnagle.org Thu Jun 12 06:49:57 2008 From: karen at hoofnagle.org (Karen Hoofnagle) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:49:57 -0400 Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> Message-ID: I was going to be stubborn and take the train. Construction and train timing issues are enough to make me rethink that position, though. Yup. Let's see how many people we can pack into a taxi. I'll look for folks at the CTA entrance as close to 16:00 as possible. k On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Jay Hannah wrote: >> On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: >>> I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. >>> Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning >>> to meet and try to find the dorms together. >>> >>> Can someone recommend a good meeting point? >>> >>> I see several other people arrive about the same time so >>> if would like to join us, let us know. >> >> I'm in at 14:59: >> >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir >> >> Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ >> luggage... :) > > I am arriving on terminal 5 (international) at 15:20. > I guess all the others arrive in one of the internal terminals > So let's meet at the entrance of CTA at around 16:00 > and then we'll see if we all fit in one cab and if it is split in > enough parts. > my mobile is +972-54-4624648 (international) and I am not yet sure it > is going to work there. > It hardly works at all :-) > > Gabor > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From zaz at mitre.org Thu Jun 12 07:35:46 2008 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to attend. I created a wiki page for the blues BOF. Speaking of advertizing BOF's, I added a "pinball wizard" BOF, for those of you who like earning free replays on pinball games (if they still have them at the campus center). -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+zaz=mitre.org at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+zaz=mitre.org at pm.org] On Behalf Of Uri Guttman Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:13 AM To: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: [yapc] blues night out hi all blues fans, i googled for eddie shaw in chicago and to my delight and surprise he is playing this friday and saturday night at kingston mines on north halstead. this is the area with most of the chicago blues clubs. i went to one the last time and had fun. if anyone is interested in going let me know. i used to see eddie shaw and the wolf gang when they played in boston about 25 years ago. i got to know the bass player and eddie's son who is a wicked good guitar player. i think they are still with the band (or at least i hope they are). i wouldn't be surprised if they remember me! cover charge is $15 and the show starts at 9:30 with an opening act. eddie is supposed to go on at 10:30 or so. this area is easily accessible by the el (i will have to research the route again) and it was a few blocks walk from the nearest station. so call this a blues bof and let's hear some great chicago blues! uri, who is so happy to see this band again. -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From frag at ripco.com Thu Jun 12 08:01:53 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:01:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? In-Reply-To: References: <9E081728-9A4B-49A8-897E-E7B54FDF3976@jays.net> Message-ID: Just a reminder to people who are taking taxis from O'Hare: if you're planning on getting a train pass (which would help for the Arrival Dinner), you should get it at the O'Hare CTA station before leaving the airport. -- Mike F. From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 08:07:03 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:07:03 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out In-Reply-To: (Zak Zebrowski's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:46 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "ZZ" == Zebrowski, Zak writes: ZZ> I would like to attend. I created a wiki page for the blues BOF. ZZ> Speaking of advertizing BOF's, I added a "pinball wizard" BOF, for ZZ> those of you who like earning free replays on pinball games (if they ZZ> still have them at the campus center). which night would you prefer? saturday would have more mongers around than friday. i may even go both nights if i can handle it. :) as for pinball, in my ute (what's a yoot? :) i gained pinball mastery on several machines and could sometimes sell extra games for my original quarter. of course i spent much of my tuition on learning how to do that! i never got any good at video games. i seem to need the reality of physics to do well. same with air hockey which i am told we will have at the banquet. i hope to have spare time to play some (not easy with auctioneering and monger herding). uri, who will shoot the air hockey puck up your nose! -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 08:14:27 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:14:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 3241 S Wabash Ave Message-ID: <29d269c70806120814lb39c033l1b161b5a190fcb24@mail.gmail.com> This is what I have for the location of the conference. My GPS should take me close to that but will it be obvious what to do when I arrive at that address? How will I find the parking? Also, I'm staying at a Salsa friend's place but if something goes wrong (perhaps I step on her toes), what is the dorm at the same address? Darcy On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:02 AM, wrote: > Send yapc mailing list submissions to > yapc at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > yapc-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > yapc-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of yapc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm (Joshua McAdams) > 2. Re: CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm (Mike Fragassi) > 3. Re: ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? (Gabor Szabo) > 4. Re: CTA travel this weekend (Krishna Sethuraman) > 5. Re: Parking (not packing) at YAPC (Richard Dice) > 6. Re: ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? > (Karen Hoofnagle) > 7. Re: blues night out (Zebrowski, Zak) > 8. Re: ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? > (Mike Fragassi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:38:08 -0500 > From: "Joshua McAdams" > Subject: Re: [yapc] CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm > To: "Tye McQueen" > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > <49d805d70806112138m18fe6c47qe5a75b8ca41ea36e at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > One more note, you'll be going to 3300 S State, not Michigan. The > walk is not far, but if you put your end point that far east you'll > end up on a bus instead of the L on some of the itineraries. > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Tye McQueen wrote: > > I was planning on taking the train from O'Hare when I got in Sunday > evening > > (based on information from the YAPC web sites) and the below links got me > to > > a site where I could plan my trip in more detail. > > > > The "next" train after my 6:20pm arrival is 11pm! I've changed my mind > > based on not wanting to sit in an airport for 4.5 hours! > > > > So if you are planning to take the train and haven't looked in detail at > > that idea, you might want to do so now: > > > > http://transitchicago.com/ has a form labeled "google trip planner" and > > "O'Hare" to "3300 S Michigan Ave, Chicago, IL" appears to get you quite > > close to the dorms. > > > > I've added myself to > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir in hopes > of > > finding somebody who wants to share a cab around that time (not a lot of > > entries near that time slot so far). > > > > Thanks, > > Tye > > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Elliot Shank wrote: > >> > >> Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially > >> from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. > >> > >> Red Line: http://tinyurl.com/5j2nh2 > >> Blue Line: http://tinyurl.com/2hhund > >> > >> There's also work on the Yellow Line, but that's far north; I highly > doubt > >> anyone from out of town cares about that one. > >> > >> === > >> > >> Blue Line Temporary Service Interruption ? Jefferson Park (accessible) > to > >> Harlem (accessible) > >> > >> 9 p.m., Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 > >> > >> Due to tie replacement to eliminate slow zones, Blue Line service will > be > >> temporarily interrupted between the Jefferson Park and Harlem stations. > >> Shuttle buses* will operate in both directions between these stations. > >> > >> Please allow extra travel time. > >> > >> *Note: The bus shuttle is free to customers transferring from trains at > >> Jefferson Park(to O'Hare) and Harlem (to Downtown). > >> > >> === > >> > >> Red Line Subway Trains Rerouted to Loop Elevated Tracks on Weekend > >> > >> Effective the following days and times: > >> > >> 9 p.m. Friday, June 13 until 3 a.m., Monday, June 16, 2008 > >> > >> Due to Red Line subway construction, Red Line trains will operate on the > >> Loop elevated tracks between the Fullerton and Cermak/Chinatown > stations. > >> Trains will make all elevated stops from Roosevelt (accessible) to > Fullerton > >> in both directions. > >> > >> Note: Merchandise Mart (accessible) is exit only via stairway on > Saturday > >> from 12:50 a.m. to 5:10 a.m., Sunday from 12:50 a.m. until 7:10 a.m., > and > >> weekday mornings from 12:55 a.m. to 5:10 a.m. > >> > >> Alternate shuttle bus service will operate until 3 a.m. on Monday as > >> follows: > >> > >> ?Between Clark/Division and North/Clybourn > >> Shuttle Stops: Clark/Division (Red Line), North/Sedgwick (accessible) > >> (Brown Line) (entrance on Hudson) and North/Clybourn (Red Line). > >> > >> ?Between Grand/State and Wells/Superior > >> Shuttle Stops: Grand (Red Line), Chicago (accessible) (Red Line) and > >> Wells/Superior (walk one-half block west to the Chicago/Franklin (Brown > >> Line) station entrance on Superior) > >> > >> ?Between Roosevelt/State (accessible) and Jackson/State > >> Shuttle Stops: Adams/Wabash, Jackson/State (accessible), Harrison/State > >> and Roosevelt/State (accessible). > >> > >> Southbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated > >> station along Lake or Wabash on Inner Loop track. > >> > >> Northbound to/from Downtown: Board/exit Red Line trains at any elevated > >> station along Wabash or Lake on Outer Loop track. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yapc mailing list > >> yapc at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:22:21 -0500 (CDT) > From: Mike Fragassi > Subject: Re: [yapc] CTA travel from O'Hare: not until 11pm > To: Tye McQueen > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Tye McQueen wrote: > > > I was planning on taking the train from O'Hare when I got in Sunday > evening > > (based on information from the YAPC web sites) and the below links got me > to > > a site where I could plan my trip in more detail. > > > > The "next" train after my 6:20pm arrival is 11pm! I've changed my mind > > based on not wanting to sit in an airport for 4.5 hours! > > That can't be right. The blue line runs every 10 minutes or so, 24 > hours a day. I tried the same service from the home page of > transitchicago.com, just using the default destination (1 N. State > Street): > > > http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&f=d&saddr=O'Hare,+Chicago&daddr=1+N+State+St,+Chicago,+IL&ttype=dep&date=06%2F15&time=18:20&dirflg=r&z=11 > > and the times show trains departing every 10 minutes. > > However, what is true is that for this weekend, if you're taking the > blue line in, they'll make you disembark at Harlem, and board a shuttle > bus (for free), which will take you to the Jefferson Park station, where > you'll reboard the train. (See Elliot Shank's previous email, or the > Getting Around wiki page.) > > -- Mike F. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:45:01 +0300 > From: "Gabor Szabo" > Subject: Re: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? > To: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Jay Hannah wrote: > > On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > >> I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. > >> Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning > >> to meet and try to find the dorms together. > >> > >> Can someone recommend a good meeting point? > >> > >> I see several other people arrive about the same time so > >> if would like to join us, let us know. > > > > I'm in at 14:59: > > > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir > > > > Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ > > luggage... :) > > I am arriving on terminal 5 (international) at 15:20. > I guess all the others arrive in one of the internal terminals > So let's meet at the entrance of CTA at around 16:00 > and then we'll see if we all fit in one cab and if it is split in enough > parts. > my mobile is +972-54-4624648 (international) and I am not yet sure it > is going to work there. > It hardly works at all :-) > > Gabor > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:54:14 -0700 > From: "Krishna Sethuraman" > > > Subject: Re: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially > from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. > > For those of you taking public transit for planned trips, one handy > thing I've just found is that you can enter source and destination in > google maps, then click 'Public Transit' under search results, then > click 'Options'. Under there you can list a departure or > must-arrive-by time, and it will show you the public transit options > that leave/arrive around then. > > Krishna > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:24:12 -0400 > From: "Richard Dice" > Subject: Re: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC > To: "Joshua McAdams" > Cc: Dennis Daupert , yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: > <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Is this the procedure for those of us who bought a parking pass online? We > claim our pass by calling the campus police and ask them for it? What > documentation do we show them to get them to give it to us? > > > > We should use the same parking lot this year. It is just South of the > > MSV dorms. Looking at the conference map [http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf], > > that's about it. > > > > If you do get there and the gate is closed and won't open, the campus > > police number is 312-808-6363. Call them and let them know what you > > are trying to do. It's much easier to be proactive than to try to get > > them to reverse a ticket. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080612/b6e233cb/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:49:57 -0400 > From: Karen Hoofnagle > Subject: Re: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? > To: "Gabor Szabo" > Cc: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I was going to be stubborn and take the train. Construction and train > timing issues are enough to make me rethink that position, though. > Yup. Let's see how many people we can pack into a taxi. > I'll look for folks at the CTA entrance as close to 16:00 as possible. > > k > > On Jun 12, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Jay Hannah wrote: > >> On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > >>> I am arriving at O'Hare on Sunday at 15:20. > >>> Karen Hoofnagle arrives just a few minutes later so we are planning > >>> to meet and try to find the dorms together. > >>> > >>> Can someone recommend a good meeting point? > >>> > >>> I see several other people arrive about the same time so > >>> if would like to join us, let us know. > >> > >> I'm in at 14:59: > >> > >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=ArrivalsByAir > >> > >> Let's split a cab and save the hassle of figuring out the train w/ > >> luggage... :) > > > > I am arriving on terminal 5 (international) at 15:20. > > I guess all the others arrive in one of the internal terminals > > So let's meet at the entrance of CTA at around 16:00 > > and then we'll see if we all fit in one cab and if it is split in > > enough parts. > > my mobile is +972-54-4624648 (international) and I am not yet sure it > > is going to work there. > > It hardly works at all :-) > > > > Gabor > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:46 -0400 > From: "Zebrowski, Zak" > Subject: Re: [yapc] blues night out > To: "Uri Guttman" , > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would like to attend. I created a wiki page for the blues BOF. > > Speaking of advertizing BOF's, I added a "pinball wizard" BOF, for > those of you who like earning free replays on pinball games (if they > still have them at the campus center). > > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+zaz=mitre.org at pm.org > [mailto:yapc-bounces+zaz =mitre.org at pm.org] On Behalf > Of Uri Guttman > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:13 AM > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] blues night out > > > hi all blues fans, > > i googled for eddie shaw in chicago and to my delight and surprise he > is > playing this friday and saturday night at kingston mines on north > halstead. this is the area with most of the chicago blues clubs. i went > to one the last time and had fun. if anyone is interested in going let > me know. > > i used to see eddie shaw and the wolf gang when they played in boston > about 25 years ago. i got to know the bass player and eddie's son who > is > a wicked good guitar player. i think they are still with the band (or > at > least i hope they are). i wouldn't be surprised if they remember me! > > cover charge is $15 and the show starts at 9:30 with an opening > act. eddie is supposed to go on at 10:30 or so. this area is easily > accessible by the el (i will have to research the route again) and it > was a few blocks walk from the nearest station. > > so call this a blues bof and let's hear some great chicago blues! > > uri, who is so happy to see this band again. > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- > http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html > --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com > --------- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:01:53 -0500 (CDT) > From: Mike Fragassi > Subject: Re: [yapc] ORD to dorm 16:00-ish on Sunday - meeting point? > Cc: yapc at pm.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > Just a reminder to people who are taking taxis from O'Hare: if you're > planning on getting a train pass (which would help for the Arrival > Dinner), you should get it at the O'Hare CTA station before leaving the > airport. > > -- Mike F. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > End of yapc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 30 > ************************************ > -- Darcy Whyte Darcy at Siteware.com 613-563-3634 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada N 45? 25'03.1" W 75? 42'21.4" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080612/bef32e87/attachment-0001.html From waltman at pobox.com Thu Jun 12 08:30:46 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:30:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] 3241 S Wabash Ave In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806120814lb39c033l1b161b5a190fcb24@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806120814lb39c033l1b161b5a190fcb24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080612153046.GB4017@mawode.com> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:14:27AM -0400, Darcy Whyte wrote: > This is what I have for the location of the conference. I'm not sure where you got that address. From google maps, it appears to be the address of the dorms. The conference itself is being held in Hermann Hall. It's on the other side of State St. from the dorms and the student center. See http://www.iit.edu/about/images/maps/main_campus_bw.pdf for a campus map. > My GPS should take me close to that but will it be obvious what to do when I > arrive at that address? Follow the geeks? > How will I find the parking? See previous threads. > Also, I'm staying at a Salsa friend's place but if something goes wrong > (perhaps I step on her toes), what is the dorm at the same address? See above. I believe the dorm reservations have closed, so I'm not sure you'll still be able to get a room there at this late date. But maybe something could be worked out at the last minute. Also, please don't copy 40k of digest when replying to messages. Walt From hwigoda at mindspring.com Thu Jun 12 08:58:08 2008 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04B047D4-8700-4FB7-A29D-987D2B88E3E8@mindspring.com> so where can i pick up my parking pass today? hal On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Richard Dice wrote: > Is this the procedure for those of us who bought a parking pass > online? We claim our pass by calling the campus police and ask them > for it? What documentation do we show them to get them to give it > to us? > > We should use the same parking lot this year. It is just South of the > MSV dorms. Looking at the conference map [http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf], > that's about it. > > If you do get there and the gate is closed and won't open, the campus > police number is 312-808-6363. Call them and let them know what you > are trying to do. It's much easier to be proactive than to try to get > them to reverse a ticket. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This email is intended to answer any questions that attendees staying in the dorm might have about their on-campus stay. If you aren't staying in the dorms, you probably don't need to read any further. All attendees staying on campus will be housed in the McCormick Student Village located at 3241 S. Wabash Street (Between 32nd and 33rd St.) There are many wings to this dorm, but one main lobby that has 24x7 staffing for check-in. The main check-in time is from 3-5pm each day, so there is the potential that if you show up at an off time, there will only be one person at the front desk. If there is a line, please be patient. There should be plenty other Perl hackers around to hang out with while you are waiting. If you are checking in outside of 3-5, could you send me an email letting me know when you plan on arriving. If there seems to be a busy point, we'll make sure that the dorm has extra staff at the front desk so that check-in is faster for everyone. There is parking to the South of the dorm just below 33rd street and to the East of the dorm just off State street between 32nd and 33rd. If you are signed up for a parking pass, you will want to use one of these lots. There is a culdesac beside the dorm off 33rd. Please pull up to the metered areas until you get your pass at check-in. If you are arriving via public transportation you'll want to take the Green Line to Bronzeville/IIT or the Red Line to Sox/35th. If you are taking a bus, you probably already know what you are doing. Off of the Green Line, you will want to exit off of the North side of the platform. MSV is just North of the station, across 33rd Street and to the East of the Student Center. Off the Red Line, you'll have a little more of a walk. Exit off of the North side of the platform onto 33rd Street and turn East (right). Once you pass under the L "Tube" (2-3 blocks), you'll see MSV on your left. Your dorm room includes a linen package. This includes sheets, a quilt, a towel, and a rag. Soaps and shampoos are not provided. There is however, an on-campus store in the student center that most likely has some toiletries. See you at YAPC, Josh From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 09:31:05 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:31:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] map from 2006 In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806120920w3965e74cpa7aff74c7856bc67@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806120920w3965e74cpa7aff74c7856bc67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806120931v1b985522n26867490e562c132@mail.gmail.com> It should be pretty relevant still. Also, the google map might be helpful to some. Not all of the buildings are labeled, but those important to the conference should be http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > If this is still relevant, some first timers may want to have a look - > http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/iit_campus.jpg > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From zaz at mitre.org Thu Jun 12 09:50:21 2008 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:50:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alas, I won't be in Chicago until Sunday noonish... (Is there an opportunity for an outing during or the night after the conference?) Sounds good on the pinball game, I look forward to the competition. There's a South Park game that I've played recently... On my first playing the game, I earned 4 replays... :) Not bad for $.50... I'm thinking (depending on how many people want to play) possibly for lunch time games... Regardless, it should be fun. -----Original Message----- From: Uri Guttman [mailto:uri at stemsystems.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:07 AM To: Zebrowski, Zak Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] blues night out >>>>> "ZZ" == Zebrowski, Zak writes: ZZ> I would like to attend. I created a wiki page for the blues BOF. ZZ> Speaking of advertizing BOF's, I added a "pinball wizard" BOF, for ZZ> those of you who like earning free replays on pinball games (if they ZZ> still have them at the campus center). which night would you prefer? saturday would have more mongers around than friday. i may even go both nights if i can handle it. :) as for pinball, in my ute (what's a yoot? :) i gained pinball mastery on several machines and could sometimes sell extra games for my original quarter. of course i spent much of my tuition on learning how to do that! i never got any good at video games. i seem to need the reality of physics to do well. same with air hockey which i am told we will have at the banquet. i hope to have spare time to play some (not easy with auctioneering and monger herding). uri, who will shoot the air hockey puck up your nose! -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From dha at panix.com Thu Jun 12 09:58:24 2008 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:58:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-conference dinner - still open? Message-ID: <20080612165824.GA28193@panix.com> I have a couple of friends who might want to come to the pre-conference dinner. Can we manage that or are we full up at this point? dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Six course banquet of nothing, with a scoop of sod-all for a palate cleanser - Rupert Giles From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 12:09:31 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:09:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out In-Reply-To: (Zak Zebrowski's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:50:21 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "ZZ" == Zebrowski, Zak writes: ZZ> Alas, I won't be in Chicago until Sunday noonish... (Is there an ZZ> opportunity for an outing during or the night after the conference?) there is blues most every night in chicago. i found some sites that have all the clubs and listings. during yapc i doubt i will have the time/energy to go there so it is fri/sat for me. also this band i want to see is playing those nights. ZZ> Sounds good on the pinball game, I look forward to the competition. ZZ> There's a South Park game that I've played recently... On my first ZZ> playing the game, I earned 4 replays... :) Not bad for $.50... I'm ZZ> thinking (depending on how many people want to play) possibly for lunch ZZ> time games... Regardless, it should be fun. given the limited time and energy during the banquet, i would prefer air hockey over pinball. i am ok at pinball but mean and nasty in air hockey! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 12:10:16 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:10:16 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-conference dinner - still open? In-Reply-To: <20080612165824.GA28193@panix.com> (David H. Adler's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:58:24 -0400") References: <20080612165824.GA28193@panix.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DHA" == David H Adler writes: DHA> I have a couple of friends who might want to come to the pre-conference DHA> dinner. Can we manage that or are we full up at this point? as i always say walk-ins are welcome. there always seems to be enough food and if they pay their $30 they will be fed and happy. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 12:15:24 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:15:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Richard Dice wrote: > Is this the procedure for those of us who bought a parking pass online? We > claim our pass by calling the campus police and ask them for it? What > documentation do we show them to get them to give it to us? I was planning on printing my yapc order form for the parking pass and saying, 'It's ok, Josh said it was cool.' From zaz at mitre.org Thu Jun 12 12:15:58 2008 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:15:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: :) Something will work out, it always does... I split the blues BOF to a pre-yapc and a during yapc event, in case anyone else wants to join... For the pinball / air hockey: How about we (pinball wizard BOF) just take over the game area in the concourse? :-) I'm willing to lose at air hockey if I can play some pinball... -----Original Message----- From: Uri Guttman [mailto:uri at stemsystems.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:10 PM To: Zebrowski, Zak Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] blues night out >>>>> "ZZ" == Zebrowski, Zak writes: ZZ> Alas, I won't be in Chicago until Sunday noonish... (Is there an ZZ> opportunity for an outing during or the night after the conference?) there is blues most every night in chicago. i found some sites that have all the clubs and listings. during yapc i doubt i will have the time/energy to go there so it is fri/sat for me. also this band i want to see is playing those nights. ZZ> Sounds good on the pinball game, I look forward to the competition. ZZ> There's a South Park game that I've played recently... On my first ZZ> playing the game, I earned 4 replays... :) Not bad for $.50... I'm ZZ> thinking (depending on how many people want to play) possibly for lunch ZZ> time games... Regardless, it should be fun. given the limited time and energy during the banquet, i would prefer air hockey over pinball. i am ok at pinball but mean and nasty in air hockey! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 12:24:46 2008 From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:24:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I was planning on printing my yapc order form for the parking pass and > saying, 'It's ok, Josh said it was cool.' > I do not know you, but you are now my friend. -- dave.s.doyle at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080612/c2d502ff/attachment.html From zrusilla at mac.com Thu Jun 12 11:36:04 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:36:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Punking at YAPC Message-ID: <10F10479-011A-1000-A032-6DED08FC6DFC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> Once we've packed and parked, where can we go punk? From yapc at packy.org Thu Jun 12 12:41:26 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:41:26 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Punking at YAPC Message-ID: On Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:36 PM, Elizabeth Cortell asked: > Once we've packed and parked, where can we go punk? Eh, punking has peaked. I'd rather get pickled. From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 12 12:46:05 2008 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:46:05 -0400 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 15:20 -0400 2008-06-10, Uri Guttman wrote: >does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes >kosher, halal, and dietary issues. > Gluten free (protein and carbs) Thanks for asking Regards, Todd From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 12:57:25 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:25 -0700 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > At 15:20 -0400 2008-06-10, Uri Guttman wrote: >>does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes >>kosher, halal, and dietary issues. >> > > Gluten free (protein and carbs) Wheat-free and dairy-free , and vegetarian for me (and real easy on the onions). Preferably something with some good protein in it, like legumes/beans or tofu. > Thanks for asking Ditto. Also, can I order some of your special cocoa? I'd like 2x1lb of each flavor; if it's easier to ship it, that's cool too. Krishna From joe at virtualmin.com Thu Jun 12 13:41:49 2008 From: joe at virtualmin.com (Joe Cooper) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:41:49 -0700 Subject: [yapc] map from 2006 In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806120931v1b985522n26867490e562c132@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806120920w3965e74cpa7aff74c7856bc67@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806120931v1b985522n26867490e562c132@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48518A0D.6020707@virtualmin.com> There is also a PDF on the IIT website, which is quite a bit more legible (though it leaves off parking): http://www.iit.edu/about/images/maps/main_campus_bw.pdf Joshua McAdams wrote: > It should be pretty relevant still. Also, the google map might be > helpful to some. Not all of the buildings are labeled, but those > important to the conference should be http://tinyurl.com/5pzvzf > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: >> If this is still relevant, some first timers may want to have a look - >> http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/iit_campus.jpg From frag at ripco.com Thu Jun 12 13:47:26 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:47:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Punking at YAPC In-Reply-To: <10F10479-011A-1000-A032-6DED08FC6DFC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> References: <10F10479-011A-1000-A032-6DED08FC6DFC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> Message-ID: > Once we've packed and parked, where can we go punk? Actually, there's a new southside club, Reggie's, 2 blocks off the Chinatown Red line stop. It's supposedly quite good, and has an attached record store and restaurant. http://www.reggieslive.com/ Also in that area is the new location of the Velvet Lounge, for jazz. http://www.velvetlounge.net/ -- Mike F. From will at coleda.com Thu Jun 12 13:54:31 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:54:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings Message-ID: Do we have a location yet for the pre-conference hackathon other than "somewhere in the dorms"? I have several people interested but not entirely sure where to show up, other than the dorms, and I don't know how vasty and sprawling those are. We don't yet have a specific start time on Saturday; It's just going to be when enough of us congregate together. I'll be meeting up with at least two other hackers Friday night; I'll try to get us to agree when the three of us will show up, and scout out the location, and update here and on the wiki, so by Saturday morning, hopefully it'll all be settled. Anyone who is interested in attending the hackathon, and is afraid they cannot find it, feel free to ask me for my cell #. I'll also have access to this email continuously (except in flight), so feel free to email me, also. We will also be on irc.perl.org in #hackathon, so even if there isn't a really organized location, just sign onto the channel, and we can have a multi-spacial hackathon. Whatever works. If anyone has some room in their suitcase, we'll no doubt need a few power strips. I'll try to also bring some notepads and pencils for thinking on paper. Anything else folks think they'd need that would require even a modicum of planning, that they can't bring themselves? We are probably in need of a local to guide us when our bellies start to rumble. Sadly, I'll be packing most of my own food this trip, but the occasional food-not-from-a-vending-machine-or-pouch would be most spiffy. Hope to see you there! -- Will "Coke" Coleda From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 14:13:28 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:13:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> > Do we have a location yet for the pre-conference hackathon other than > "somewhere in the dorms"? There is a lounge on each floor of each wing of the dorms. We have South 1st-4th, East 1st-4th, and North 1st, so there should be at least nine areas to choose from and possibly more. On the layout that I've seen, the lounges on the first floors seem to be a little smaller than those on the higher floors, so if the hack-a-thon gets big, you might have to go up to spread out. I'm not sure what is in each lounge yet. From will at coleda.com Thu Jun 12 14:17:23 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:17:23 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Do we have a location yet for the pre-conference hackathon other than >> "somewhere in the dorms"? > > There is a lounge on each floor of each wing of the dorms. We have > South 1st-4th, East 1st-4th, and North 1st, so there should be at > least nine areas to choose from and possibly more. On the layout that > I've seen, the lounges on the first floors seem to be a little smaller > than those on the higher floors, so if the hack-a-thon gets big, you > might have to go up to spread out. I'm not sure what is in each > lounge yet. > Ok. I'll try to make sure there are some notes in the first floor areas if we're not in those, pointing upward in the right direction. Thanks, Josh! -- Will "Coke" Coleda From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 14:19:57 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:19:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards Message-ID: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> For those not staying in the dorms, your parking passes and meal cards will be available for pickup at the MSV dorm. If you are driving, just park temporarily in the metered parking in front of MSV and go in and get your pass. The person at the front desk will direct you to parking lots that you can use. From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 14:22:17 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:22:17 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Punking at YAPC In-Reply-To: (Packy Anderson's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:41:26 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "PA" == Packy Anderson writes: PA> On Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:36 PM, Elizabeth Cortell asked: >> Once we've packed and parked, where can we go punk? PA> Eh, punking has peaked. I'd rather get pickled. or porked at a bbq joint! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 14:26:06 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:26:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: (Todd Olson's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:46:05 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "TO" == Todd Olson writes: TO> At 15:20 -0400 2008-06-10, Uri Guttman wrote: >> does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes >> kosher, halal, and dietary issues. >> TO> Gluten free (protein and carbs) well gluten is a protein found in wheat and some other starches. i am not sure what you can eat (meats? salads? hummus? chicken ettoufee? yams? cole slaw?). i think the buffet is broad enough with 4 cuisines that you should be able to go gluten free. i don't know what we could order special that was gluten free. TO> Thanks for asking thanks for responding. but it is also getting late. i dunno what i can do at this time. is the banquet going to be a major issue for you given the range of the foods? thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 14:30:45 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:30:45 -0400 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: (Krishna Sethuraman's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:25 -0700") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "KS" == Krishna Sethuraman writes: >> At 15:20 -0400 2008-06-10, Uri Guttman wrote: >>> does anyone need/want a special meal for the banquet? this includes >>> kosher, halal, and dietary issues. >>> >> >> Gluten free (protein and carbs) KS> Wheat-free and dairy-free , and vegetarian for me (and real easy on KS> the onions). Preferably something with some good protein in it, like KS> legumes/beans or tofu. then look at the middle eastern buffet. we ordered 75 servings (as several people suggested). it has taboulie, hummus, felafel and tandoori chicken (indian is middle east??). also the big easy stuff may be low on wheat as will some of the many sides. KS> Also, can I order some of your special cocoa? I'd like 2x1lb of each KS> flavor; if it's easier to ship it, that's cool too. best to order it from the web site directly. i can't carry that much easily nor take payment. and my wife just said she could have gotten some from our plant but it is too late now for my flight tomorrow. thanx, uri, the cocoa jester (wife is the cocoa queen!) -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 14:32:20 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:32:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: (Will Coleda's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:54:31 -0400") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: WC> Will "Coke" Coleda i dunno if coke will be served at the banquet. could be pepsi. i know root beer (he teaches for stonehenge) will be served! uri, who is ducking rapidly -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 14:32:56 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:32:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: References: <351212.23145.qm@web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49d805d70806112106j392cdd7awdb77a007dfbf995a@mail.gmail.com> <5bef4baf0806120524w41c30e79u82b00f4686664abc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806121432x24abc7fbra316f313062b2b66@mail.gmail.com> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Richard Dice wrote: >> Is this the procedure for those of us who bought a parking pass online? We >> claim our pass by calling the campus police and ask them for it? What >> documentation do we show them to get them to give it to us? > > I was planning on printing my yapc order form for the parking pass and > saying, 'It's ok, Josh said it was cool.' Not sure how well that would fly :) You'll probably want to park in front of MSV (metered, bring a quarter or two) and run in and get your pass. The person working the front desk that gives you your pass will direct you to the closest parking lot. From krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 14:51:01 2008 From: krishnoid+yapc+rat at gmail.com (Krishna Sethuraman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:51:01 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Fwd: Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > There is a lounge on each floor of each wing of the dorms. We have > South 1st-4th, East 1st-4th, and North 1st, so there should be at > least nine areas to choose from and possibly more. On the layout that > I've seen, the lounges on the first floors seem to be a little smaller > than those on the higher floors, so if the hack-a-thon gets big, you > might have to go up to spread out. I'm not sure what is in each > lounge yet. I'm planning on bringing an 8-port hub and 4 power strips, but a Chicago local will need to bring a long 3-prong extension cord so we can get an 'outlet' to the middle of the hackathon floor. Also, if a Chicago local would be so gracious as to bring a cheapie postscript laser printer or buy one off craigslist or fry's -- or at least something that could print pdfs easily; i.e., produce a pdf or postscript file on your laptop at the hackathon, scp, ftp or smb it to a common laptop acting as a server, and have someone write a script to monitor the directory and send such items to the printer -- that would be *really* appreciated -- for code listings, annotating documentation, thinking on paper, printing boarding passes, maps, directions, etc. I have trouble typing because of my hands, and would have greatly appreciated one to print out a handful of web pages and docs, and ask some folks for clarification on some items with pencil and paper during the last yapc. Krishna From ccf3 at mindspring.com Thu Jun 12 14:55:39 2008 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:55:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] map from 2006 In-Reply-To: <48518A0D.6020707@virtualmin.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806120920w3965e74cpa7aff74c7856bc67@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806120931v1b985522n26867490e562c132@mail.gmail.com> <48518A0D.6020707@virtualmin.com> Message-ID: <48519B5B.9040907@mindspring.com> Joe Cooper wrote: > There is also a PDF on the IIT website, which is quite a bit more > legible (though it leaves off parking): > > http://www.iit.edu/about/images/maps/main_campus_bw.pdf > No response. I think we slashdotted it. Or YAPCdotted. Or whatever. Gah! You've nuked my alma mater! c4 From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Thu Jun 12 14:58:41 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:58:41 +0000 Subject: [yapc] map from 2006 In-Reply-To: <48519B5B.9040907@mindspring.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806120920w3965e74cpa7aff74c7856bc67@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806120931v1b985522n26867490e562c132@mail.gmail.com><48518A0D.6020707@virtualmin.com> <48519B5B.9040907@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C60@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Joe Cooper wrote: >> There is also a PDF on the IIT website, which is quite a bit more >> legible (though it leaves off parking): >> >> http://www.iit.edu/about/images/maps/main_campus_bw.pdf >> >No response. I think we slashdotted it. Or YAPCdotted. Or whatever. >Gah! You've nuked my alma mater! >c4 We farked it!! ;-) From anj at aps.anl.gov Thu Jun 12 15:10:46 2008 From: anj at aps.anl.gov (Andrew Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:10:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> On Thursday 12 June 2008 16:19:57 Joshua McAdams wrote: > For those not staying in the dorms, your parking passes and meal cards > will be available for pickup at the MSV dorm. If you are driving, > just park temporarily in the metered parking in front of MSV and go in > and get your pass. The person at the front desk will direct you to > parking lots that you can use. For those of us locals who need neither parking nor meal cards, do we have to visit the MSV at all? I'm assuming I can just turn up at Hermann Hall on Monday in time to pick up any registration materials before the first talk that I'm interested in... - Andrew -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. -- Charles M. Schulz From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 15:13:35 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:13:35 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> Message-ID: <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> > For those of us locals who need neither parking nor meal cards, do we have to > visit the MSV at all? I'm assuming I can just turn up at Hermann Hall on > Monday in time to pick up any registration materials before the first talk > that I'm interested in... Correct. No MSV if you don't have dorm rooms or parking. I'll see if I can get the meal cards Monday morning and bring them over to the registration table for those that are meal-card only, but no guarantees. From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 15:24:22 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:24:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> (Joshua McAdams's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:13:35 -0500") References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams writes: >> For those of us locals who need neither parking nor meal cards, do we have to >> visit the MSV at all? I'm assuming I can just turn up at Hermann Hall on >> Monday in time to pick up any registration materials before the first talk >> that I'm interested in... JM> Correct. No MSV if you don't have dorm rooms or parking. I'll see if JM> I can get the meal cards Monday morning and bring them over to the JM> registration table for those that are meal-card only, but no JM> guarantees. i didn't order a meal card since that option was closed on the web site. i want one only because it was more convenient (faster checkout) at the cafeteria. can i still buy one from them? also i don't want the size i got last time (way too much). maybe $30 this time? thanx, uri, who hates standing in long lines -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 16:26:11 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806121626q61419ee8s8643279188a996fb@mail.gmail.com> > i didn't order a meal card since that option was closed on the web > site. i want one only because it was more convenient (faster checkout) > at the cafeteria. can i still buy one from them? also i don't want the > size i got last time (way too much). maybe $30 this time? It's too late to order a meal card unfortunately. However, because not many people ordered cards, the caterers are worried about having enough food, so each morning they are going to pre-sale meal tickets for a lunch buffet. The pre-sale is so they can have enough time to get food in for lunch. I'm not sure of the contents of the buffet or of the cost of the ticket. I guess we'll find out for certain on Monday morning. A ticket will mean no line though :) From will at coleda.com Thu Jun 12 16:27:32 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:27:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2558BB30-F855-408A-95C0-820418B20E17@coleda.com> -- Will "Coke" Coleda On Jun 12, 2008, at 17:32, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: > > WC> Will "Coke" Coleda > > i dunno if coke will be served at the banquet. could be pepsi. i know > root beer (he teaches for stonehenge) will be served! > You funny, doctah jones! Sadly, I am diet coke this year, and won't be attending the banquet, so this coke won't be served, anyway. Someone bring me back a pickle or something. > uri, who is ducking rapidly I always thought you were a quack. > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com > -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, > Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html > --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com > --------- From david at axiombox.com Thu Jun 12 16:43:55 2008 From: david at axiombox.com (David Moreno) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:43:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop Message-ID: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> Hi, I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go from the hotel to the conference venue? Thank you, -- David Moreno Garza http://damog.net/ http://axiombox.com/ From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 12 17:02:53 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:02:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806121626q61419ee8s8643279188a996fb@mail.gmail.com> (Joshua McAdams's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:11 -0500") References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806121626q61419ee8s8643279188a996fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JM" == Joshua McAdams writes: >> i didn't order a meal card since that option was closed on the web >> site. i want one only because it was more convenient (faster checkout) >> at the cafeteria. can i still buy one from them? also i don't want the >> size i got last time (way too much). maybe $30 this time? JM> It's too late to order a meal card unfortunately. However, because JM> not many people ordered cards, the caterers are worried about having JM> enough food, so each morning they are going to pre-sale meal tickets JM> for a lunch buffet. The pre-sale is so they can have enough time to JM> get food in for lunch. I'm not sure of the contents of the buffet or JM> of the cost of the ticket. I guess we'll find out for certain on JM> Monday morning. A ticket will mean no line though :) and where will this pre-sale happen? can we pre-order the pre-sale? what is the charge per lunch? thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 17:34:40 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:34:40 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> Message-ID: <49d805d70806121734q42a6026rba0c20c7356dc850@mail.gmail.com> > I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife > since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the > conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best > way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go > from the hotel to the conference venue? If you are taking public transit from the airport to the hotel, it's really easy. Just get on the blue line at O'Hare and take it to the Jackson stop. Club Quarters is just West of the intersection of Clark and Adams. As far as getting to IIT, if you don't mind taking the bus, then you can catch the southbound #24 on Clark (same block as CQ) and take it to 33rd and Wentworth. You'll have to walk just at a quarter of a mile east on 33rd once you get off. Also, from CQ you can go over to State and take the #29 South to State and 33rd. You'll be on the same block as the conference center. If you want to take the L, walk East on Adams to Wabash and get on the Southbound Green line train. Take it to Bronzeville/IIT. It will drop you off behind the SSV dorm on the on IIT campus. You could also get on the Red line at State and Adams and take it South to Sox/35th. Whether you take green or red, exit on the North exit of the platform. It will get you closer to the conference. http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com/ can really be your friend, as can the Google map's transit view. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 17:36:08 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:36:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Passes and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806121419m48e83dc9i88ed3ecabb931e86@mail.gmail.com> <200806121710.46443.anj@aps.anl.gov> <49d805d70806121513o348af0d2t4f18c465faa1bbd8@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806121626q61419ee8s8643279188a996fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806121736i418123bl70f63f30beac528e@mail.gmail.com> > and where will this pre-sale happen? can we pre-order the pre-sale? what > is the charge per lunch? The charge is unknown to me at this time, but I've been told that it will be between $5 and $10. I don't know if this includes drinks. IIT says they'll be in the conference center each morning... I'm guessing at the registration table. Since we aren't handling it, presales aren't available. From perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org Fri Jun 13 04:53:47 2008 From: perl.yapc at rjbs.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:53:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> Message-ID: <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] > I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife > since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the > conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best > way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go > from the hotel to the conference venue? Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be down for swarming to the venue. -- rjbs From diona at knowmad.com Fri Jun 13 05:45:07 2008 From: diona at knowmad.com (Diona Kidd) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:45:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> Message-ID: <860f763b0806130545l63127482ya1239abd71d4e339@mail.gmail.com> We'll be staying at Club Quarters too. Thanks for the info Josh! Diona On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] >> I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife >> since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the >> conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best >> way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go >> from the hotel to the conference venue? > > Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be down for > swarming to the venue. > > -- > rjbs > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jay at jays.net Fri Jun 13 05:58:15 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:58:15 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Punking at YAPC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5DAF9BF4-48FB-4684-98E8-7B48EA2A91D2@jays.net> On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > PA> On Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:36 PM, Elizabeth Cortell asked: >>> Once we've packed and parked, where can we go punk? > > PA> Eh, punking has peaked. I'd rather get pickled. > > or porked at a bbq joint! I'm not picky about the porking placement, position, or pacing. Peace, j From mark at summersault.com Fri Jun 13 06:48:04 2008 From: mark at summersault.com (Mark Stosberg) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:48:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> How do you rent a car to drive to the conference, without a car to pick-up the rental car? It's a bootstrapping problem. My answer to getting the car without a car: Use a bike to carry a bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/markstos/2573568357 I'm bootstrapped for YAPC 2008! Mark From joshr-yapc at joshr.com Fri Jun 13 07:16:54 2008 From: joshr-yapc at joshr.com (Josh Rabinowitz) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:16:54 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC Message-ID: Speaking of parking: I had originally planned to bring a car, but in light of all the talk about how a car is probably more hassle than it's worth, I'm planning *not* to bring a car. Can I be refunded for the parking pass I already paid for? Thanks, Josh From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 13 07:28:25 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:28:25 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> (Mark Stosberg's message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:48:04 -0400") References: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Stosberg writes: Mark> How do you rent a car to drive to the conference, without a car to Mark> pick-up the rental car? Simple. You call Enterprise. They'll pick you up, and drive you to the local office, where you drop them off and finish the paperwork. Or, you rent with the nearest Hertz office, and they will generally reimburse your cab ride to the office (up to a limit). Dunno why this would ever be considered a problem. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 13 07:32:01 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:32:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Dunno why this would ever be considered a problem. Because not everyone travels as widely and as often as you do. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From will at coleda.com Fri Jun 13 07:34:41 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:34:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: References: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >> Dunno why this would ever be considered a problem. > > > Because not everyone travels as widely and as often as you do. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > Also, False Hubris. ^_^ -- Will "Coke" Coleda From amoore at mooresystems.com Fri Jun 13 07:37:16 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:37:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <6c70d2980806130737m5dd32c44h20641c5692390d0e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Dunno why this would ever be considered a problem. Presumably because it presents an opportunity to use and show off unusual bikes. -Andy From mark at summersault.com Fri Jun 13 07:44:52 2008 From: mark at summersault.com (Mark Stosberg) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:44:52 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Solving the rental car bootstrapping problem In-Reply-To: <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <1213364884.21832.5.camel@localhost> <86mylptnna.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <1213368292.21832.14.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:28 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Stosberg writes: > > Mark> How do you rent a car to drive to the conference, without a car to > Mark> pick-up the rental car? > > Simple. You call Enterprise. They'll pick you up, and drive you to the local > office, where you drop them off and finish the paperwork. > > ... > > Dunno why this would ever be considered a problem. ?I was golfing for carbon emissions. Mark From allison at perl.org Fri Jun 13 08:30:14 2008 From: allison at perl.org (Allison Randal) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:30:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Do we have a location yet for the pre-conference hackathon other than >> "somewhere in the dorms"? > > There is a lounge on each floor of each wing of the dorms. We have > South 1st-4th, East 1st-4th, and North 1st, so there should be at > least nine areas to choose from and possibly more. On the layout that > I've seen, the lounges on the first floors seem to be a little smaller > than those on the higher floors, so if the hack-a-thon gets big, you > might have to go up to spread out. I'm not sure what is in each > lounge yet. There's a also huge lounge area with comfortable chairs on the first floor of McCormick between the 4 wings. When you check in and get your dorm map, it's listed as the "McCormick Lounge" between North Hall and Fowler Hall. I only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and they're not close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension cables. The lounges in the wings have a power outlet every 6 feet or so, the rooms are about 10x10. Most have 4 dining chairs and a couch, some have an extra couple of arm chairs. Allison P.S. This message sent on the dorm wireless, with strong signal and fast connection. (At least until everybody else shows up.) From cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu Fri Jun 13 08:40:09 2008 From: cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu (Craig Dunigan) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:40:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: <48529286.6040904@perl.org> References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Allison Randal wrote: > I only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and > they're not close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension > cables. I have a 100' extension cable, and since I'm not flying, I can bring it if we think we need something that long. Otherwise I'll pack a couple of shorter (20' and less) ones, and all those old power strips I have laying around. -- Craig Dunigan IS Technical Services Specialist Middleware - EIS - DoIT University of Wisconsin, Madison opinions expressed are my own, not the University's From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 09:09:13 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:09:13 -0400 Subject: [yapc] BOFs Message-ID: <29d269c70806130909u4d619fd9oc325651b5b2f42c1@mail.gmail.com> I know this is a long shot, but I'm considering hitting a Salsa club in Chicago. Any other Salsa nut bars in the group? Are they dancing on1 or on2 there? Darcy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080613/0f54f335/attachment.html From allison at perl.org Fri Jun 13 10:34:19 2008 From: allison at perl.org (Allison Randal) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:34:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4852AF9B.3020105@perl.org> Uri Guttman wrote: > > well gluten is a protein found in wheat and some other starches. i am > not sure what you can eat (meats? salads? hummus? chicken ettoufee? > yams? cole slaw?). i think the buffet is broad enough with 4 cuisines > that you should be able to go gluten free. i don't know what we could > order special that was gluten free. [...] > thanks for responding. but it is also getting late. i dunno what i can > do at this time. is the banquet going to be a major issue for you given > the range of the foods? Larry and I are also wheat/gluten free (something about Perl hackers and gluten?), and don't usually have trouble finding something to eat from whatever is on the buffet. Salad always works if nothing else. The mixture of cuisines here sounds like it offers plenty of choices. Thanks for asking, Uri, Allison From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 10:55:11 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:55:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] BOFs In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806130909u4d619fd9oc325651b5b2f42c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806130909u4d619fd9oc325651b5b2f42c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806131055td66fa4h663cf9fae9c6895d@mail.gmail.com> > I know this is a long shot, but I'm considering hitting a Salsa club in > Chicago. Also consider going to Chicago's summer dance series: www.chicagosummerdance.org It started yesterday. They have Salsa from time-to-time. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 11:02:27 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:02:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking (not packing) at YAPC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806131102k214ff3fexac870f0f0bdac517@mail.gmail.com> > Speaking of parking: I had originally planned to bring a car, but in > light of all the talk about how a car is probably more hassle than > it's worth, I'm planning *not* to bring a car. > > Can I be refunded for the parking pass I already paid for? That's through the University, so probably not. However, I have a feeling that someone else will end up needing a pass and will have not bought one. As soon as I hear of that situation, I'll let you know. From anj at aps.anl.gov Fri Jun 13 11:27:21 2008 From: anj at aps.anl.gov (Andrew Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:27:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] FireFox Download Day Message-ID: <200806131327.21405.anj@aps.anl.gov> I'm sure that other people have noticed that FireFox 3's Download Day falls on Tuesday: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord Is anybody planning a Download Fest at YAPC::NA? - Andrew -- Talk is cheap. Show me the code. -- Linus Torvalds From frag at ripco.com Fri Jun 13 14:15:26 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] special diets/meal for banquet In-Reply-To: <4852AF9B.3020105@perl.org> References: <4852AF9B.3020105@perl.org> Message-ID: > Larry and I are also wheat/gluten free (something about Perl hackers and > gluten?), and don't usually have trouble finding something to eat from > whatever is on the buffet. Salad always works if nothing else. The > mixture of cuisines here sounds like it offers plenty of choices. Some links: 8 Chicagoland Restaurants with Gluten Free Menus: http://www.2bhifi.com/celiac/archives/001102.html Also: http://www.glutenfreeceliacweb.com/gluten-free-restaurants-in-chicago/ http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=gluten+free&find_loc=Chicago+IL -- Mike F. From frag at ripco.com Fri Jun 13 14:30:14 2008 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:30:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] BOFs In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806131055td66fa4h663cf9fae9c6895d@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806130909u4d619fd9oc325651b5b2f42c1@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806131055td66fa4h663cf9fae9c6895d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> I know this is a long shot, but I'm considering hitting a Salsa club in >> Chicago. > > Also consider going to Chicago's summer dance series: > www.chicagosummerdance.org > > It started yesterday. They have Salsa from time-to-time. Good call, on Wednesday 8:30pm-11pm it's Hector Silveira y Su Orquesta (Cuban Timba Salsa), at Navy Pier. Dance lessons are from 7 to 8. There's free trolley service to Navy Pier from some of the downtown L stations. -- Mike F. From david at axiombox.com Fri Jun 13 14:49:49 2008 From: david at axiombox.com (David Moreno) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:49:49 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> Message-ID: <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] > > I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife > > since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the > > conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best > > way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go > > from the hotel to the conference venue? > > Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be down for > swarming to the venue. Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the dorms, I thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. -- David Moreno Garza http://damog.net/ http://axiombox.com/ From andreas.marienborg at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 14:52:04 2008 From: andreas.marienborg at gmail.com (Andreas Marienborg) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:52:04 +0200 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> Message-ID: <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, David Moreno wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >> * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] >>> I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my >>> wife >>> since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of >>> the >>> conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the >>> best >>> way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way >>> to go >>> from the hotel to the conference venue? >> >> Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be >> down for >> swarming to the venue. > > Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the > dorms, I > thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. I'm at the Wacker CQ, if anyone want to head down together, let me know - andreas From shane.werner at twcable.com Fri Jun 13 15:57:34 2008 From: shane.werner at twcable.com (Werner, Shane) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:57:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca><20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> Message-ID: <82665B12B693474481A2A69504DD6F5DCF9A57@PRVPVSMAIL06.corp.twcable.com> I'll also be staying at CQ in the loop. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+shane.werner=twcable.com at pm.org on behalf of David Moreno Sent: Fri 6/13/2008 5:49 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] > > I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my wife > > since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of the > > conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the best > > way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way to go > > from the hotel to the conference venue? > > Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be down for > swarming to the venue. Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the dorms, I thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. -- David Moreno Garza http://damog.net/ http://axiombox.com/ _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Schwartz) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:44:37 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> (Andreas Marienborg's message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:52:04 +0200") References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <864p7wucgq.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Marienborg writes: Andreas> I'm at the Wacker CQ, if anyone want to head down together, let me know And I'm at the Congress Plaza Hotel. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From cogurov at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 17:15:15 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:15:15 +0100 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? Message-ID: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, everyone! In less than 6 hours I should be getting up, running to the airport (because I'm sure it's really going to be closer to 7 hours than 6), going to Paris, running to another plane (because apparently the travel agency I used sucks and thinks that changing terminals at Charles de Gaulle can be easily done in less than an hour), crossing the Atlantic to Chicago, and then finding my way to the dorms... Once I get there, and after I realize I'm missing some important information to be able to check in at the dorms, information which is bound to be somewhere among my email, which is not on my current laptop and therefore I'll only be able to access online... How do I get access to the wireless? I searched the emails, but didn't find this. Can anyone help me? :-) Thanks, cheers, and see you really soon now (I hope), jac -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080614/b946ae94/attachment.html From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 13 17:19:39 2008 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:19:39 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> I'm staying at the Wacker CQ also. Would be nice to head to IIT in a group. J, are you planing to drive or take the L? Pete. On 6/13/08, Andreas Marienborg wrote: > On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, David Moreno wrote: > >> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >>> * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] >>>> I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my >>>> wife >>>> since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of >>>> the >>>> conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the >>>> best >>>> way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way >>>> to go >>>> from the hotel to the conference venue? >>> >>> Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be >>> down for >>> swarming to the venue. >> >> Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the >> dorms, I >> thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. > > I'm at the Wacker CQ, if anyone want to head down together, let me know > > - andreas > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- It is important that you are happy. - D. Maddox From waltman at pobox.com Fri Jun 13 17:36:27 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:36:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080614003627.GH7958@mawode.com> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:15:15AM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > Hi, everyone! > > In less than 6 hours I should be getting up, running to the airport (because > I'm sure it's really going to be closer to 7 hours than 6), going to Paris, > running to another plane (because apparently the travel agency I used sucks > and thinks that changing terminals at Charles de Gaulle can be easily done > in less than an hour), crossing the Atlantic to Chicago, and then finding my > way to the dorms... > > Once I get there, and after I realize I'm missing some important information > to be able to check in at the dorms, information which is bound to be > somewhere among my email, which is not on my current laptop and therefore > I'll only be able to access online... How do I get access to the wireless? > > I searched the emails, but didn't find this. > > Can anyone help me? :-) Allison claims to be on the dorm wireless network. Worse comes to worse, track her down! :) Or just ask at the front desk when you check in. Walt From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 13 17:39:40 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:39:40 -0400 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> =?iso-8859-1?q?=28Jos=E9?= Castro's message of "Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:15:15 +0100") References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: JC> Once I get there, and after I realize I'm missing some important JC> information to be able to check in at the dorms, information which JC> is bound to be somewhere among my email, which is not on my JC> current laptop and therefore I'll only be able to access JC> online... How do I get access to the wireless? i just checked in to MSV and the helpful girl gave me a registration packet that tells you how to connect to the wireless. i am on the wireless net right now. they say reboot but of course that is for winblows and i am fine with the latest ubuntu. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 13 17:42:28 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:42:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] dinner tonight? Message-ID: hi hungry early yapc arrivers, i am going to go out to a simple dinner probably in the blues district on north halstead (diversey stop on the brown line). anyone wishing to join us, email me quickly or call my cell 781-888-0937. you can do dinner only and we will do the blues clubs afterwards. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From cogurov at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 17:43:59 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:43:59 +0100 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806131743t6415d11fnee2d8863a2d03571@mail.gmail.com> Yay! Thanks. (now... I wonder if I'll also have the wonderful bootstrap problem... "I need wireless to check in!" ... "No, sir, you have to check in before I can give you access to the wireless..." ... Don't mind me, I'm just a Portuguese guy who hasn't been sleeping much :-) and if all goes well, I won't be forgetting any information that I need anyway; wish me luck!) jac On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: > > JC> Once I get there, and after I realize I'm missing some important > JC> information to be able to check in at the dorms, information which > JC> is bound to be somewhere among my email, which is not on my > JC> current laptop and therefore I'll only be able to access > JC> online... How do I get access to the wireless? > > i just checked in to MSV and the helpful girl gave me a registration > packet that tells you how to connect to the wireless. i am on the > wireless net right now. they say reboot but of course that is for > winblows and i am fine with the latest ubuntu. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com-- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html--------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com--------- > -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080614/1b74610d/attachment.html From zed at total.net Fri Jun 13 17:54:30 2008 From: zed at total.net (John F. Zmrotchek) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:54:30 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? Message-ID: <485316C6.80703@total.net> The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or if I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. Cheers, John From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Jun 13 17:57:55 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:57:55 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <485316C6.80703@total.net> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> Message-ID: <69FB9541-51FB-440F-892B-25A5FF63852B@mac.com> There's a Perl hacker who washes his clothes? Get outta town! Next thing you'll be telling me you shower, too! On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:54 PM, John F. Zmrotchek wrote: > The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are > laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those > staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or > if > I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. > > Cheers, > > John From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 18:02:48 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:02:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <485316C6.80703@total.net> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> Message-ID: <49d805d70806131802p7eeabaacxf0453e25fb3afc57@mail.gmail.com> > The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are > laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those > staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or if > I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. I haven't been there yet, so I'm not sure, but I think that this thread has came up before and there was confirmation of a laundry facility on-campus and possibly even in the dorms. The dorm that is being used easily houses a thousand students, so I'm betting that you can pack light and not pay that retarded $25 baggage check fee from AA and United. From leosusanto at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 18:02:53 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:02:53 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <485316C6.80703@total.net> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> definitely reuse em. I am packing light http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the basements of the complex" On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM, John F. Zmrotchek wrote: > The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are > laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those > staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or if > I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From fluhmann at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 18:05:24 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806131805x2834970ch33b674891eaa4008@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > winblows and i am fine with the latest ubuntu. Yay, Ubuntu! uri++ Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080613/c1c14d4a/attachment.html From zed at total.net Fri Jun 13 18:13:42 2008 From: zed at total.net (John F. Zmrotchek) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:13:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48531B46.9060805@total.net> Thanks for the links, I'm definitely packing lighter then. More room for my tech! ;) Leo Susanto wrote: > definitely reuse em. I am packing light > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions > Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? > > According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities > and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the > basements of the complex" > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM, John F. Zmrotchek wrote: >> The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are >> laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those >> staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or if >> I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> From waltman at pobox.com Fri Jun 13 18:23:08 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:23:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:02:53PM -0700, Leo Susanto wrote: > definitely reuse em. I am packing light > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions > Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? > > According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities > and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the > basements of the complex" Ah, but can you get detergent? :) From scott at slowass.net Fri Jun 13 18:51:12 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:12 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> Message-ID: <20080614015112.GZ26282@slowass.net> Aka the cooler for the Beer BOF. Dude, we so totally got busted. -scott On 0, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:02:53PM -0700, Leo Susanto wrote: > > definitely reuse em. I am packing light > > > > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions > > Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? > > > > According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities > > and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the > > basements of the complex" > > Ah, but can you get detergent? :) > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From anj at aps.anl.gov Fri Jun 13 21:12:05 2008 From: anj at aps.anl.gov (Andrew Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] FireFox Download Day In-Reply-To: <3254728B-1AB1-4CE2-BE4A-212A8CDD2E60@chrisdolan.net> References: <200806131327.21405.anj@aps.anl.gov> <3254728B-1AB1-4CE2-BE4A-212A8CDD2E60@chrisdolan.net> Message-ID: <200806132312.05687.anj@aps.anl.gov> On Friday 13 June 2008 20:42:02 Chris Dolan wrote: > On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Andrew Johnson wrote: > > I'm sure that other people have noticed that FireFox 3's Download > > Day falls on > > Tuesday: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord > > > > Is anybody planning a Download Fest at YAPC::NA? > > Just get 3.0RC3 today. It should be code-identical to the Tuesday > release, with just some version stamps changed. I've been using v3 > since January and have been quite happy (especially when they nailed > the crasher that was bugging me until the last beta!) Isn't the point to do the download and install on the day itself, in order to be part of the world record attempt? - Andrew (looking forward to getting off 1.5, 2.0.x is not reliable for me). -- Talk is cheap. Show me the code. -- Linus Torvalds From will at coleda.com Fri Jun 13 21:15:05 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:15:05 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: <48529286.6040904@perl.org> References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > Joshua McAdams wrote: >>> >>> Do we have a location yet for the pre-conference hackathon other than >>> "somewhere in the dorms"? >> >> There is a lounge on each floor of each wing of the dorms. We have >> South 1st-4th, East 1st-4th, and North 1st, so there should be at >> least nine areas to choose from and possibly more. On the layout that >> I've seen, the lounges on the first floors seem to be a little smaller >> than those on the higher floors, so if the hack-a-thon gets big, you >> might have to go up to spread out. I'm not sure what is in each >> lounge yet. > > There's a also huge lounge area with comfortable chairs on the first floor > of McCormick between the 4 wings. When you check in and get your dorm map, > it's listed as the "McCormick Lounge" between North Hall and Fowler Hall. I > only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and they're not > close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension cables. +1; Having just spent several minutes lounging down there, it's spacious, and the seats are comfy. I have a few extension cords, and a power strip, but probably not enough to go around. > The lounges in the wings have a power outlet every 6 feet or so, the rooms > are about 10x10. Most have 4 dining chairs and a couch, some have an extra > couple of arm chairs. > > Allison > > P.S. This message sent on the dorm wireless, with strong signal and fast > connection. (At least until everybody else shows up.) > We talked about a start time, and are leaning towards 9-ish. I'm sure at least one of us will have stumbled downstairs by then. Regards. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From leosusanto at gmail.com Fri Jun 13 21:18:44 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:18:44 -0700 Subject: [yapc] FireFox Download Day In-Reply-To: <200806132312.05687.anj@aps.anl.gov> References: <200806131327.21405.anj@aps.anl.gov> <3254728B-1AB1-4CE2-BE4A-212A8CDD2E60@chrisdolan.net> <200806132312.05687.anj@aps.anl.gov> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806132118o61c18158r9145517077111a09@mail.gmail.com> Count me in. I know that ff3rc5 is good enough - but anything that makes ff dev/marketer happy makes me happy as well. Anyway - ppl should push for tiket#34 of google app too - support for perl lang. We are sorely behind php - which pisses me off. On 6/13/08, Andrew Johnson wrote: > On Friday 13 June 2008 20:42:02 Chris Dolan wrote: >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Andrew Johnson wrote: >> > I'm sure that other people have noticed that FireFox 3's Download >> > Day falls on >> > Tuesday: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord >> > >> > Is anybody planning a Download Fest at YAPC::NA? >> >> Just get 3.0RC3 today. It should be code-identical to the Tuesday >> release, with just some version stamps changed. I've been using v3 >> since January and have been quite happy (especially when they nailed >> the crasher that was bugging me until the last beta!) > > Isn't the point to do the download and install on the day itself, in order > to > be part of the world record attempt? > > - Andrew (looking forward to getting off 1.5, 2.0.x is not reliable for me). > -- > Talk is cheap. Show me the code. -- Linus Torvalds > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 13 22:57:35 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:57:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: (Will Coleda's message of "Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:15:05 -0400") References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: >> There's a also huge lounge area with comfortable chairs on the first floor >> of McCormick between the 4 wings. When you check in and get your dorm map, >> it's listed as the "McCormick Lounge" between North Hall and Fowler Hall. I >> only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and they're not >> close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension cables. WC> +1; Having just spent several minutes lounging down there, it's WC> spacious, and the seats are comfy. I have a few extension cords, and a WC> power strip, but probably not enough to go around. i walked through that big lounge on the first floor of MSV tonight and it seems to have no air conditioning. not sure if it is broken or when it will be fixed. doubt it will be a fun place for the hackathon or a movie night (there is a very large tv there). uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 13 22:59:26 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:59:26 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <485316C6.80703@total.net> (John F. Zmrotchek's message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:54:30 -0400") References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "JFZ" == John F Zmrotchek writes: JFZ> The guy trying to decide how much to pack is wondering if there are JFZ> laundry services (i.e. a nearby/onsite laundromat) available for those JFZ> staying at the dorms? I need to know if I have to pack heavier, or if JFZ> I can just wash stuff I bring and reuse it. i saw some rocks down by the chicago river. pound your clothes clean on them! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 06:22:17 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:22:17 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: > > >> There's a also huge lounge area with comfortable chairs on the first floor > >> of McCormick between the 4 wings. When you check in and get your dorm map, > >> it's listed as the "McCormick Lounge" between North Hall and Fowler Hall. I > >> only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and they're not > >> close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension cables. > > WC> +1; Having just spent several minutes lounging down there, it's > WC> spacious, and the seats are comfy. I have a few extension cords, and a > WC> power strip, but probably not enough to go around. > > i walked through that big lounge on the first floor of MSV tonight and > it seems to have no air conditioning. not sure if it is broken or when > it will be fixed. doubt it will be a fun place for the hackathon or a > movie night (there is a very large tv there). > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- > Given that the rooms are set on "fortress of solitude" freezing, I thought it was an improvement, of course, it was already dark by then. If it's too hot, we'll figure something else out, but we'll start out there and see what happens. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From richard.siddall at elirion.net Sat Jun 14 06:26:06 2008 From: richard.siddall at elirion.net (Richard Siddall) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:26:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> Message-ID: <4853C6EE.7070607@elirion.net> Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:02:53PM -0700, Leo Susanto wrote: >> definitely reuse em. I am packing light >> >> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions >> Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? >> >> According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities >> and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the >> basements of the complex" > > Ah, but can you get detergent? :) Could someone who is on-site take a look at the laundry facilities and check that you don't need a student ID card to gain access, or have to use a smartcard to start the machines? Regards, Richard Siddall From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 06:51:02 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:51:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: <4853C6EE.7070607@elirion.net> References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> <4853C6EE.7070607@elirion.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Richard Siddall wrote: > Walt Mankowski wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:02:53PM -0700, Leo Susanto wrote: >>> definitely reuse em. I am packing light >>> >>> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Questions >>> Is there any laundry machine in the dorm? >>> >>> According to http://www.housing.iit.edu/msv.php "Laundry facilities >>> and study lounges, as well as computer labs are located in the >>> basements of the complex" >> >> Ah, but can you get detergent? :) > > Could someone who is on-site take a look at the laundry facilities and > check that you don't need a student ID card to gain access, or have to > use a smartcard to start the machines? > > Regards, > > Richard Siddall > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > After wandering around in the steam tunnels this morning, I found two laundry rooms. One takes quarters, one takes a card. But, if you're staying in the dorms, you get a card which I think (but have not tried) to add money to. So I think you'll be ok either way. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From richard.siddall at elirion.net Sat Jun 14 07:05:23 2008 From: richard.siddall at elirion.net (Richard Siddall) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:05:23 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Laundry facilities on site? In-Reply-To: References: <485316C6.80703@total.net> <9f7f38940806131802w30f75333o57fcd535f7890c47@mail.gmail.com> <20080614012308.GI7958@mawode.com> <4853C6EE.7070607@elirion.net> Message-ID: <4853D023.30905@elirion.net> Will Coleda wrote: > > After wandering around in the steam tunnels this morning, I found two > laundry rooms. One takes quarters, one takes a card. But, if you're > staying in the dorms, you get a card which I think (but have not > tried) to add money to. So I think you'll be ok either way. > Will, Thanks for checking that out. Regards, Richard. From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 08:08:48 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:08:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Hackathon musings In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806121413n492d72acufadc4a2ff151d8cf@mail.gmail.com> <48529286.6040904@perl.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Will Coleda wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: >> >> >> There's a also huge lounge area with comfortable chairs on the first floor >> >> of McCormick between the 4 wings. When you check in and get your dorm map, >> >> it's listed as the "McCormick Lounge" between North Hall and Fowler Hall. I >> >> only see 4 power outlets for the whole huge room, though, and they're not >> >> close to the chairs, so pack your powerstrips/extension cables. >> >> WC> +1; Having just spent several minutes lounging down there, it's >> WC> spacious, and the seats are comfy. I have a few extension cords, and a >> WC> power strip, but probably not enough to go around. >> >> i walked through that big lounge on the first floor of MSV tonight and >> it seems to have no air conditioning. not sure if it is broken or when >> it will be fixed. doubt it will be a fun place for the hackathon or a >> movie night (there is a very large tv there). >> >> uri >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- >> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ >> --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- >> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- >> > > > Given that the rooms are set on "fortress of solitude" freezing, I > thought it was an improvement, of course, it was already dark by then. > > If it's too hot, we'll figure something else out, but we'll start out > there and see what happens. > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > I wonder what the over/under was on the time. About an hour after we started, we're in the 1st floor south lounge. It has AC and a table. We still have a few seats left. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From yapc at packy.org Sat Jun 14 09:45:07 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:45:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Exercise facilities in/near dorms? Message-ID: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> Just wondering: are there exercise facilities in/near the dorms, and maybe even a decent scale? Both my fiancee and I are trying to manage our weight... -packy Packy Anderson YAPC at packy.org You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets. -- Brigadier Lethbridge- Stewart From ccf3 at mindspring.com Sat Jun 14 10:01:22 2008 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:01:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Exercise facilities in/near dorms? In-Reply-To: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> Message-ID: <4853F962.9020500@mindspring.com> Packy Anderson wrote: > Just wondering: are there exercise facilities in/near the dorms, and > maybe even a decent scale? Both my fiancee and I are trying to > manage our weight... > > -packy > The "exercise facility" would likely be Keating Hall, the phys. ed. building. I don't know what sort of access we would have to that building, however. Josh? c4 From ann at domaintje.com Sat Jun 14 10:42:58 2008 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:42:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [yapc] Exercise facilities in/near dorms? In-Reply-To: <4853F962.9020500@mindspring.com> References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <4853F962.9020500@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20080614194150.U77765@primus.biocede.com> The last time that YAPC was held here, I had no trouble going to the gym every morning so long as I was willing to miss the first talks. It didn't open quite early enough for me to do both. I seem to remember that my key to the dorm room was enough to get me in. - Ann > Packy Anderson wrote: >> Just wondering: are there exercise facilities in/near the dorms, and >> maybe even a decent scale? Both my fiancee and I are trying to >> manage our weight... >> >> -packy >> > The "exercise facility" would likely be Keating Hall, the phys. ed. > building. I don't know what sort of access we would have to that > building, however. Josh? > > c4 > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From zrusilla at mac.com Sat Jun 14 10:50:12 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:50:12 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Exercise facilities in/near dorms? In-Reply-To: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> Message-ID: Keating Sports Center, 3040 South Wabash Ave, has an exercise facility and a pool. Here are their summer hours: Monday through Wednesday Building Hours: 7:00 am ? 10:00 pm Pool Hours: 8:00 am ? 1:00 pm 6:00 pm ? 10:00 pm (Pool closes 15 minutes before building) http://athletics.iit.edu/general_hours.php 312-567-3296 I'm packing my swimsuit and maybe even my BIG YELLOW FINS. Anyone wanna do a SwimBOF? On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Packy Anderson wrote: > Just wondering: are there exercise facilities in/near the dorms, and > maybe even a decent scale? Both my fiancee and I are trying to > manage our weight... > > -packy > > Packy Anderson > YAPC at packy.org > > You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace > that wasn't immune to bullets. -- Brigadier Lethbridge- > Stewart > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From zak.zebrowski at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 10:57:27 2008 From: zak.zebrowski at gmail.com (Zachary Zebrowski) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:57:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> Message-ID: <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Now that some people have been to the dorms over night (I'm looking at you Uri), was it cold or warm? Zak From tyemq at cpan.org Sat Jun 14 11:20:21 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:20:21 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? Message-ID: Due to the complete lack of mention of refrigerators on the dormitory web pages, I assume that not only aren't there fridges in the dorm rooms but also aren't community fridges per floor or building. This is not a major trauma, but if refrigerators are available, then I'll keep some perishable items that are unlikely to be handy otherwise. Tye -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080614/b520d7b7/attachment.html From allison at perl.org Sat Jun 14 11:28:32 2008 From: allison at perl.org (Allison Randal) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:28:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Exercise facilities in/near dorms? In-Reply-To: <20080614194150.U77765@primus.biocede.com> References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <4853F962.9020500@mindspring.com> <20080614194150.U77765@primus.biocede.com> Message-ID: <48540DD0.7080407@perl.org> Keating Hall is running on summer hours, so it's not open on Saturday/Sunday, and closes at 3pm on Mon-Fri (I discovered the hard way, arriving at 3:15pm). I don't know how early it opens. Allison Ann Barcomb wrote: > The last time that YAPC was held here, I had no trouble going to the gym > every morning so long as I was willing to miss the first talks. It didn't > open quite early enough for me to do both. I seem to remember that my > key to the dorm room was enough to get me in. > > - Ann > >> Packy Anderson wrote: >>> Just wondering: are there exercise facilities in/near the dorms, and >>> maybe even a decent scale? Both my fiancee and I are trying to >>> manage our weight... >>> >>> -packy >>> >> The "exercise facility" would likely be Keating Hall, the phys. ed. >> building. I don't know what sort of access we would have to that >> building, however. Josh? >> >> c4 >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From chromatic at wgz.org Sat Jun 14 11:54:06 2008 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:54:06 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200806141154.07024.chromatic@wgz.org> On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:20:21 Tye McQueen wrote: > Due to the complete lack of mention of refrigerators on the dormitory web > pages, I assume that not only aren't there fridges in the dorm rooms but > also aren't community fridges per floor or building. That seems a safe assumption; I haven't see any. -- c From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 12:11:14 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:11:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Zachary Zebrowski wrote: > Now that some people have been to the dorms over night (I'm looking at > you Uri), was it cold or warm? > Zak > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > The default setting is very cold. I understand you can disable that. -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 12:17:55 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:17:55 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: <200806141154.07024.chromatic@wgz.org> References: <200806141154.07024.chromatic@wgz.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM, chromatic wrote: > On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:20:21 Tye McQueen wrote: > >> Due to the complete lack of mention of refrigerators on the dormitory web >> pages, I assume that not only aren't there fridges in the dorm rooms but >> also aren't community fridges per floor or building. > > That seems a safe assumption; I haven't see any. > > -- c > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > However, if you leave it on the AC unit... -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Sat Jun 14 12:17:55 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:17:55 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: <200806141154.07024.chromatic@wgz.org> References: <200806141154.07024.chromatic@wgz.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM, chromatic wrote: > On Saturday 14 June 2008 11:20:21 Tye McQueen wrote: > >> Due to the complete lack of mention of refrigerators on the dormitory web >> pages, I assume that not only aren't there fridges in the dorm rooms but >> also aren't community fridges per floor or building. > > That seems a safe assumption; I haven't see any. > > -- c > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > However, if you leave it on the AC unit... -- Will "Coke" Coleda From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 14 13:46:14 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:46:14 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Hangers for the dorms Message-ID: <20080614204614.GB7215@mawode.com> I just arrived at the dorms. They seem fine, but one thing the rooms are lacking is hangers. If anyone's still packing, you might want to consider bringing some. Oh, and check with the TSA website to see if they're allowed in carry-on. Someone on irc reports they confiscated his metal hangers. Walt From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 14 13:58:32 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:58:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend In-Reply-To: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> References: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> Message-ID: <20080614205832.GC7215@mawode.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:59:56PM -0500, Elliot Shank wrote: > Those of you planning on traveling via the CTA this weekend, especially from O'Hare to IIT, should be aware of work being done this weekend. > > Red Line: http://tinyurl.com/5j2nh2 > Blue Line: http://tinyurl.com/2hhund I just went through the Blue Line work and I thought I'd send a report so people know what to expect. When you take the blue line out of O'Hare, you go a few stops, then they make everyone get off the train at Harlem. They herd everyone onto shuttle buses, ferry you to the next stop (Jefferson Park), then herd you back onto the blue line to continue on to downtown. The bus ride itself took about 10 minutes, but the entire process took closer to 20. Since it probably takes about 5 minutes to go between stations anyway, it adds about 15 minutes to the overall commute. It's a hassle, but it's not particularly difficult. Just follow the other passengers and the small army of CTA personel at each station. One other comment on the CTA at O'Hare. There are two types of farecard machines there -- one dispenses visitor passes, the other type the normal pay-as-you-go cards. The visitor card machines (which probably most folks will be getting, if they haven't preordered them) take credit cards. However, the other ones (which I wanted to get) only take cash. Walt From david at kineticode.com Sat Jun 14 14:03:59 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:03:59 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend In-Reply-To: <20080614205832.GC7215@mawode.com> References: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> <20080614205832.GC7215@mawode.com> Message-ID: On Jun 14, 2008, at 13:58, Walt Mankowski wrote: > One other comment on the CTA at O'Hare. There are two types of > farecard machines there -- one dispenses visitor passes, the other > type the normal pay-as-you-go cards. The visitor card machines (which > probably most folks will be getting, if they haven't preordered them) > take credit cards. However, the other ones (which I wanted to get) > only take cash. Any recommendations on what card to buy? What would I be likely to use it for? Thanks, David From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 14 14:42:25 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:42:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend In-Reply-To: References: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> <20080614205832.GC7215@mawode.com> Message-ID: <20080614214225.GE7215@mawode.com> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 02:03:59PM -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 14, 2008, at 13:58, Walt Mankowski wrote: > >> One other comment on the CTA at O'Hare. There are two types of >> farecard machines there -- one dispenses visitor passes, the other >> type the normal pay-as-you-go cards. The visitor card machines (which >> probably most folks will be getting, if they haven't preordered them) >> take credit cards. However, the other ones (which I wanted to get) >> only take cash. > > Any recommendations on what card to buy? What would I be likely to use > it for? Well, the nice thing about the visitor card is that you pay one price and use it for n days (where n is 1, 2, 3 or 5). Alternatively you can get a normal fare card, put some money on it, and have it deduct from the card every time you ride. Places you might want to use it are: a) back and forth from the airport b) to the pre-conference dinner Sunday night c) to dinner Monday or Wednesday night d) any touristy things you might want to do A 5 day card is $18. Otherwise it's a base fare of $2/ride, with a complex system of discounts described at http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html If you're going to be here 5 days or less (say, Sunday to Thursday) it's probably easiest to just get a visitor pass. The main reason I didn't get one is that I'm going to be here 6 days, so I'd have had to get another card anyway. Walt From david at kineticode.com Sat Jun 14 14:52:37 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:52:37 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CTA travel this weekend In-Reply-To: <20080614214225.GE7215@mawode.com> References: <4850912C.2040507@galumph.com> <20080614205832.GC7215@mawode.com> <20080614214225.GE7215@mawode.com> Message-ID: <70C6192D-AC59-4C35-A6CF-10832C1FD29D@kineticode.com> On Jun 14, 2008, at 14:42, Walt Mankowski wrote: > Well, the nice thing about the visitor card is that you pay one price > and use it for n days (where n is 1, 2, 3 or 5). Alternatively you > can get a normal fare card, put some money on it, and have it deduct > from the card every time you ride. > > Places you might want to use it are: > > a) back and forth from the airport > b) to the pre-conference dinner Sunday night > c) to dinner Monday or Wednesday night > d) any touristy things you might want to do > > A 5 day card is $18. Otherwise it's a base fare of $2/ride, with a > complex system of discounts described at > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html > > If you're going to be here 5 days or less (say, Sunday to Thursday) > it's probably easiest to just get a visitor pass. The main reason I > didn't get one is that I'm going to be here 6 days, so I'd have had to > get another card anyway. waltman++ Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks! David From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 14 15:06:55 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:06:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: (Will Coleda's message of "Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:11:14 -0500") References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: WC> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Zachary Zebrowski WC> wrote: >> Now that some people have been to the dorms over night (I'm looking at >> you Uri), was it cold or warm? WC> The default setting is very cold. I understand you can disable that. and mine seems to be broken with no cooling at all. just a fan blowing uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From joey at joeykelly.net Sat Jun 14 15:10:26 2008 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:10:26 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> On Saturday 14 June 2008 01:20:21 pm Tye McQueen wrote: > Due to the complete lack of mention of refrigerators on the dormitory web > pages, I assume that not only aren't there fridges in the dorm rooms but > also aren't community fridges per floor or building. This is not a major > trauma, but if refrigerators are available, then I'll keep some perishable > items that are unlikely to be handy otherwise. > > Tye The 7-11 convenience store is open 24/7, if I remember right, and is fairly well stocked. -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080614/1edc7ab4/attachment-0001.bin From diakopter at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 15:34:24 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:34:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT Message-ID: I haven't yet arrived, but folks told me that direct outbound IRC access from the dorms is blocked... so I created a socks proxy for anyone at the conference to use if you want to use IRC (if you aren't among those of us who have someplace to ssh into, whether to use screen/irssi, or to create an ssh tunnel for any other irc client to use)... if you want to use it; set your client to use socks proxy 209.9.237.164:1080. Note that it allows access only from 198.37.0.0/16, and only to the IRC ports. If you need another subnet permitted, let me know. See you there, Matthew Wilson From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 14 15:37:13 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:37:13 -0400 Subject: [yapc] blues night out again Message-ID: hi blues fans, i went with two other yacp guys last night to see eddie shaw and the wolf gang and we had a blast. we ate bbq at the smoke shack down street and went to the kingston mines for the show. it is an unusual place with 2 rooms for music each with their own stage. while the opening act was playing the smaller room, we sat in the larger one watching the wolf gang set up. at 10:30 sharp they started playing. i have almost never seen music acts start on time! there is a $15 cover charge. they also sell goose island honkers ale which was what we all drank. they were stupendous. tight as a drumskin, soulful with all their singular talents shining. eddie shaw plays sax, vocals and harp and all his 50 years of playing is right there to hear. the bass player has been with him most of that time and he is worth the visit alone. the guitar player (vaan shaw) is eddie's son and he played some songs on a triple necked (yes i said triple!) guitar. it has a twelve string, what seemed to be a 7s string and a regular 6 string. he used them all and you can see why he did that. plus it looks amazing! my plan for tonight is to leave about 8pm from MSV. we can meet at the hackathon lounge or at the front desk. we can do dinner at the club (they have good looking bbq and southern food) and stay for at least one set of eddie shaw. email or irc me if you are interested in coming. this is what chicago is all about so take the shot and come along. you will have a great time. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From andy at petdance.com Sat Jun 14 18:03:52 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:03:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> References: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> On Jun 14, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Joey Kelly wrote: > The 7-11 convenience store is open 24/7, if I remember right, and is > fairly > well stocked. It was not 24/7 two years ago. I think last call for my delicious fountain diet Cokes was midnightish. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 14 19:38:30 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:38:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> References: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20080615023830.GA26034@mawode.com> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 08:03:52PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > It was not 24/7 two years ago. I think last call for my delicious > fountain diet Cokes was midnightish. Fear not -- there are vending machines down on the first floor of the dorms. From sartak at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 19:42:18 2008 From: sartak at gmail.com (Sartak) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:42:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> References: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> Message-ID: On 6/14/08, Andy Lester wrote: > On Jun 14, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Joey Kelly wrote: > > The 7-11 convenience store is open 24/7, if I remember right, and is > > fairly > > well stocked. > > It was not 24/7 two years ago. I think last call for my delicious > fountain diet Cokes was midnightish. I just checked. They are open 24/7. May the diet coke flow like wine. Shawn From jbisbee at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 21:16:50 2008 From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:16:50 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: <4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> <4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim Brandt, Marlon Bailey and I are staying at Wacker Club Quarters as well. I know there are two Club Quarters and I'm still a little confused on which one is the preferred location. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM, pete

wrote: > I'm staying at the Wacker CQ also. > Would be nice to head to IIT in a group. > > J, are you planing to drive or take the L? > > Pete. > > > > On 6/13/08, Andreas Marienborg wrote: >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, David Moreno wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >>>> * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] >>>>> I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my >>>>> wife >>>>> since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of >>>>> the >>>>> conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the >>>>> best >>>>> way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way >>>>> to go >>>>> from the hotel to the conference venue? >>>> >>>> Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be >>>> down for >>>> swarming to the venue. >>> >>> Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the >>> dorms, I >>> thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. >> >> I'm at the Wacker CQ, if anyone want to head down together, let me know >> >> - andreas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > > -- > It is important that you are happy. > - D. Maddox > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com From szabgab at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 21:21:01 2008 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:21:01 +0300 Subject: [yapc] blues night out again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anything like this on the evenings after YAPC on the 18th, 19th or 20th? I am arriving only tonight (Sunday) so I miss the pre-YAPC blues but I'd really like to go to one after it. Gabor On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > hi blues fans, > > i went with two other yacp guys last night to see eddie shaw and the > wolf gang and we had a blast. we ate bbq at the smoke shack down street > and went to the kingston mines for the show. it is an unusual place with > 2 rooms for music each with their own stage. while the opening act was > playing the smaller room, we sat in the larger one watching the wolf > gang set up. at 10:30 sharp they started playing. i have almost never > seen music acts start on time! there is a $15 cover charge. they also > sell goose island honkers ale which was what we all drank. > > they were stupendous. tight as a drumskin, soulful with all their > singular talents shining. eddie shaw plays sax, vocals and harp and all > his 50 years of playing is right there to hear. the bass player has been > with him most of that time and he is worth the visit alone. the guitar > player (vaan shaw) is eddie's son and he played some songs on a triple > necked (yes i said triple!) guitar. it has a twelve string, what seemed > to be a 7s string and a regular 6 string. he used them all and you can > see why he did that. plus it looks amazing! > > my plan for tonight is to leave about 8pm from MSV. we can meet at the > hackathon lounge or at the front desk. we can do dinner at the club > (they have good looking bbq and southern food) and stay for at least one > set of eddie shaw. > > email or irc me if you are interested in coming. this is what chicago is > all about so take the shot and come along. you will have a great time. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From tim at appnel.com Sat Jun 14 21:49:00 2008 From: tim at appnel.com (Timothy Appnel) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:49:00 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Recording your session? Message-ID: Has anyone recorded their session in previous years? Any tips or ideas? From david at kineticode.com Sat Jun 14 22:54:53 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:54:53 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm fridge? In-Reply-To: References: <200806141710.31490.joey@joeykelly.net> <81056BAD-67D4-4A66-A01B-0A0D27A16C87@petdance.com> Message-ID: <323F6AC6-6806-4562-8574-5DB06B60D0F9@kineticode.com> On Jun 14, 2008, at 19:42, Sartak wrote: > I just checked. They are open 24/7. May the diet coke flow like wine. Fuck the diet coke. I'll take the wine! See you all tomorrow. David From toddr at null.net Sat Jun 14 23:23:23 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:23:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I too am AC free. I'm about to go ask about it at the front desk. On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "WC" == Will Coleda writes: > > WC> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Zachary Zebrowski > WC> wrote: > >> Now that some people have been to the dorms over night (I'm looking at > >> you Uri), was it cold or warm? > > WC> The default setting is very cold. I understand you can disable that. > > and mine seems to be broken with no cooling at all. just a fan blowing > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- Henny Youngman - "When I told my doctor I couldn't afford an operation, he offered to touch-up my X-rays." From toddr at null.net Sat Jun 14 23:24:42 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:24:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm on a work PC and they don't take kindly to IRC clients. Anyone know of a web client I can use? Thanks, On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Diakopter . wrote: > I haven't yet arrived, but folks told me that direct outbound IRC > access from the dorms is blocked... > > so I created a socks proxy for anyone at the conference to use if you > want to use IRC (if you aren't among those of us who have someplace to > ssh into, whether to use screen/irssi, or to create an ssh tunnel for > any other irc client to use)... > > if you want to use it; set your client to use socks proxy > 209.9.237.164:1080. Note that it allows access only from > 198.37.0.0/16, and only to the IRC ports. If you need another subnet > permitted, let me know. > > See you there, > Matthew Wilson > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From toddr at null.net Sat Jun 14 23:26:28 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:26:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Recording your session? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It seems like there should be some sort of screen + mic recording software. Does anyone know of any that would be easy to use? On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Timothy Appnel wrote: > Has anyone recorded their session in previous years? Any tips or ideas? > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- PJ O'Rourke - "You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money." From toddr at null.net Sat Jun 14 23:42:15 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:42:15 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: The response on the AC in my area was that the Cooling towers won't be turned on until tomorrow. As for AC controls, I discovered you can pry them open on the unit by your window. That wasn't obvious to me at first. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I too am AC free. I'm about to go ask about it at the front desk. > From robindarby at mac.com Sun Jun 15 06:30:52 2008 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:30:52 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conf. Registration? Message-ID: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> Hello, AFAIK (from looking @ the wiki) there is no pre-conference registration this year i.e. previous years you could roll by on Sunday and pickup badge + swag etc. - Is this the case, or have you 'secured'* the details somewhere?? *Security via obscurity! Thanks Robin... From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 06:38:12 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:38:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conf. Registration? In-Reply-To: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> References: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806150638gb06e859h350333856cefa48c@mail.gmail.com> It will open up at three in MSV. Exactly where, I'm not sure, but probably one of the main lobby areas between the wings of the dorm on the first floor. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Robin Darby wrote: > Hello, > AFAIK (from looking @ the wiki) there is no pre-conference registration this year i.e. previous years you could roll by on Sunday and pickup badge + swag etc. - Is this the case, or have you 'secured'* the details somewhere?? > > *Security via obscurity! > > Thanks > Robin... > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From todd at chaka.net Sun Jun 15 07:09:26 2008 From: todd at chaka.net (Todd Chapman) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:09:26 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conf. Registration? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806150638gb06e859h350333856cefa48c@mail.gmail.com> References: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <49d805d70806150638gb06e859h350333856cefa48c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <519782dc0806150709t5fb36dabx8c443149d5a5849b@mail.gmail.com> When will you close? Can we check into the dorm at any time or do they close in the evening? On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > It will open up at three in MSV. Exactly where, I'm not sure, but > probably one of the main lobby areas between the wings of the dorm on > the first floor. > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Robin Darby wrote: > > Hello, > > AFAIK (from looking @ the wiki) there is no pre-conference > registration this year i.e. previous years you could roll by on Sunday and > pickup badge + swag etc. - Is this the case, or have you 'secured'* the > details somewhere?? > > > > *Security via obscurity! > > > > Thanks > > Robin... > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080615/f268bba7/attachment.html From will at coleda.com Sun Jun 15 08:23:27 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:23:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > The response on the AC in my area was that the Cooling towers won't be > turned on until tomorrow. > > As for AC controls, I discovered you can pry them open on the unit by > your window. That wasn't obvious to me at first. > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >> I too am AC free. I'm about to go ask about it at the front desk. >> > UGH. My room was very nice and chilly yesterday. I woke up a few moments ago to find that the fan was still on high, but that it was spewing out HEAT instead of COLD. The downstairs and many rooms were very much air conditioned yesterday. I wonder what's going on. :| -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Sun Jun 15 08:36:59 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:36:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conf. Registration? In-Reply-To: <519782dc0806150709t5fb36dabx8c443149d5a5849b@mail.gmail.com> References: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <49d805d70806150638gb06e859h350333856cefa48c@mail.gmail.com> <519782dc0806150709t5fb36dabx8c443149d5a5849b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yesterday, dorm checkin was deferred until 3pm so they would have time to clean the rooms for people checking in. I am unsure if the same holds true today. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Todd Chapman wrote: > When will you close? Can we check into the dorm at any time or do they close > in the evening? > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Joshua McAdams > wrote: >> >> It will open up at three in MSV. Exactly where, I'm not sure, but >> probably one of the main lobby areas between the wings of the dorm on >> the first floor. >> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Robin Darby wrote: >> > Hello, >> > AFAIK (from looking @ the wiki) there is no pre-conference >> > registration this year i.e. previous years you could roll by on Sunday and >> > pickup badge + swag etc. - Is this the case, or have you 'secured'* the >> > details somewhere?? >> > >> > *Security via obscurity! >> > >> > Thanks >> > Robin... >> > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 08:54:59 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:54:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Conf. Registration? In-Reply-To: <519782dc0806150709t5fb36dabx8c443149d5a5849b@mail.gmail.com> References: <338B0479-011A-1000-D851-8DE481B3A3D4-Webmail-10014@mac.com> <49d805d70806150638gb06e859h350333856cefa48c@mail.gmail.com> <519782dc0806150709t5fb36dabx8c443149d5a5849b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806150854l4d6a2299ie65f4fc7ff1c3a40@mail.gmail.com> > When will you close? Can we check into the dorm at any time or do they close > in the evening? The dorm check-in is 24x7. If you show up before 3pm on the day you're checking in, you might have to wait a bit for your room if it hasn't been cleaned yet. The pre-registration will be from 3pm until 11pm today in MSV. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 08:56:05 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:56:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Recording your session? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806150856j4b8a5bd2g513a7d3b2e685b1b@mail.gmail.com> > It seems like there should be some sort of screen + mic recording > software. Does anyone know of any that would be easy to use? What's your platform? From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 08:56:52 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:56:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> If you have firefox installed, you can probably get Chatzilla running through it. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I'm on a work PC and they don't take kindly to IRC clients. Anyone > know of a web client I can use? > Thanks, > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Diakopter . wrote: >> I haven't yet arrived, but folks told me that direct outbound IRC >> access from the dorms is blocked... >> >> so I created a socks proxy for anyone at the conference to use if you >> want to use IRC (if you aren't among those of us who have someplace to >> ssh into, whether to use screen/irssi, or to create an ssh tunnel for >> any other irc client to use)... >> >> if you want to use it; set your client to use socks proxy >> 209.9.237.164:1080. Note that it allows access only from >> 198.37.0.0/16, and only to the IRC ports. If you need another subnet >> permitted, let me know. >> >> See you there, >> Matthew Wilson >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> >> > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 08:58:27 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:58:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> <4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806150858g728c0935yffd2c72119b477d1@mail.gmail.com> We had originally suggested the one in the Loop on Adams; however, if you are taking the train, both are about equidistant, so I think that people from YAPC are in both. On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Jeff Bisbee wrote: > Jim Brandt, Marlon Bailey and I are staying at Wacker Club Quarters as > well. I know there are two Club Quarters and I'm still a little > confused on which one is the preferred location. > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:19 PM, pete

wrote: >> I'm staying at the Wacker CQ also. >> Would be nice to head to IIT in a group. >> >> J, are you planing to drive or take the L? >> >> Pete. >> >> >> >> On 6/13/08, Andreas Marienborg wrote: >>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, David Moreno wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:53 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: >>>>> * David Moreno [2008-06-12T19:43:55] >>>>>> I will be staying in the Club Quarters Central Loop hotel with my >>>>>> wife >>>>>> since Saturday. I just would like to have some help since most of >>>>>> the >>>>>> conversations here is around the dorms and the IIT :) What's the >>>>>> best >>>>>> way to take to go from ORD to the hotel, and what's the best way >>>>>> to go >>>>>> from the hotel to the conference venue? >>>>> >>>>> Me, too. See you there. If you see us around, I'm sure we'd be >>>>> down for >>>>> swarming to the venue. >>>> >>>> Oh, sweet, since most of the talk here is about and around the >>>> dorms, I >>>> thought nobody was actually staying in CQ. See you there then. >>> >>> I'm at the Wacker CQ, if anyone want to head down together, let me know >>> >>> - andreas >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yapc mailing list >>> yapc at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >>> >> >> >> -- >> It is important that you are happy. >> - D. Maddox >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > > > -- > Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 09:50:10 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:50:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pre-Registration Today Message-ID: <49d805d70806150950t1de2b441x829c3398125e0bc9@mail.gmail.com> We'll be holding pre-registration today from 3pm until 11pm in the MSV dorms. If you want to avoid the Monday morning rush, stop by MSV today. (Metered parking is free on the weekends in front of the dorms) From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 15 10:10:10 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:10:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I spoke to a maintenance guy in the hall. They seem to be working on it, but my impression was the problem is not trivial. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Will Coleda wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >> The response on the AC in my area was that the Cooling towers won't be >> turned on until tomorrow. >> >> As for AC controls, I discovered you can pry them open on the unit by >> your window. That wasn't obvious to me at first. >> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >>> I too am AC free. I'm about to go ask about it at the front desk. >>> >> > > UGH. My room was very nice and chilly yesterday. I woke up a few > moments ago to find that the fan was still on high, but that it was > spewing out HEAT instead of COLD. > > The downstairs and many rooms were very much air conditioned > yesterday. I wonder what's going on. :| > > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > > -- Fran Lebowitz - "You're only has good as your last haircut." From rdice at pobox.com Sun Jun 15 10:11:34 2008 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:11:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] TPF P6 grant process BOF - 5:30pm Monday, MSV "big lounge" Message-ID: <5bef4baf0806151011wb994976ocd7848c2b339c70d@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, Following up on the remarkable Ian Hague donation to TPF, we're trying to make an appropriate process for submitting p6 grant applications. For people who have an interest we'd like your input. We've had this BOF page up for a few weeks, http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=TPFP6GrantProcess%20BOF Now that we're on site at YAPC:NA, we've got a time and place figured out as well: Monday 5:30pm in the big lounge at the north end of the ground floor of MSV. (We could find a break-out room in MSV once we've gathered here first.) If you need any help finding us or help entering the building please give me a call at the time of the BOF or shortly before, 416-841-7365. Cheers, - Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080615/3c09ecd5/attachment.html From hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net Sun Jun 15 10:46:43 2008 From: hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:46:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] air conditioners in south hall MSV Message-ID: <20080615174643.GA1194@glaive.weftsoar.net> It took me a few minutes to figure them out, so I might as well save that few minutes for everyone else. Also, the volunteers don't seem to know how they work. There are two square patches that look like plain boring metal on the top of the AC. If you push down on them, just along the edge closest to the window, they'll flip up, and one of them has the fan speed/temp control dials underneath it. (this may be true of other halls too, but I've only been in South.) hdp. From will at coleda.com Sun Jun 15 10:50:38 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:50:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] air conditioners in south hall MSV In-Reply-To: <20080615174643.GA1194@glaive.weftsoar.net> References: <20080615174643.GA1194@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: > It took me a few minutes to figure them out, so I might as well save that few > minutes for everyone else. Also, the volunteers don't seem to know how they > work. > > There are two square patches that look like plain boring metal on the top of > the AC. If you push down on them, just along the edge closest to the window, > they'll flip up, and one of them has the fan speed/temp control dials > underneath it. > > (this may be true of other halls too, but I've only been in South.) > > hdp. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Which, as of 10 am this morning, only controlled the -fan-. no matter the temperature setting, all you could get was HOT :-P -- Will "Coke" Coleda From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 15 11:04:57 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:04:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] air conditioners in south hall MSV In-Reply-To: References: <20080615174643.GA1194@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: There are rumors of bubbling radiators which indicate they may have got the cold water moving for the AC.... On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey > wrote: >> It took me a few minutes to figure them out, so I might as well save that few >> minutes for everyone else. Also, the volunteers don't seem to know how they >> work. >> >> There are two square patches that look like plain boring metal on the top of >> the AC. If you push down on them, just along the edge closest to the window, >> they'll flip up, and one of them has the fan speed/temp control dials >> underneath it. >> >> (this may be true of other halls too, but I've only been in South.) >> >> hdp. >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > Which, as of 10 am this morning, only controlled the -fan-. no matter > the temperature setting, all you could get was HOT > > :-P > > -- > Will "Coke" Coleda > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- Henny Youngman - "When I told my doctor I couldn't afford an operation, he offered to touch-up my X-rays." From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 15 11:25:01 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:25:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: (Todd Rinaldo's message of "Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:10:10 -0500") References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "TR" == Todd Rinaldo writes: TR> I spoke to a maintenance guy in the hall. They seem to be working on TR> it, but my impression was the problem is not trivial. my ac seems to be working now. they must have fixed the cold water supply. i am finally getting cooler than room temp air out of it. i will have a better night's sleep the rest of the week. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From will at coleda.com Sun Jun 15 11:38:38 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:38:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How warm is the dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <0ADBC399-C82E-4367-BA81-F7B32179CB5D@packy.org> <638F3CAB-03C8-419D-B90D-B84CC893DB2C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "TR" == Todd Rinaldo writes: > > TR> I spoke to a maintenance guy in the hall. They seem to be working on > TR> it, but my impression was the problem is not trivial. > > my ac seems to be working now. they must have fixed the cold water > supply. i am finally getting cooler than room temp air out of it. > > i will have a better night's sleep the rest of the week. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- > Sweet C'thulhu, it's working again in my room as well! -- Will "Coke" Coleda From clayton.scott at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 13:17:59 2008 From: clayton.scott at gmail.com (Clayton Scott) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:17:59 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop In-Reply-To: References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca> <20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local> <1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca> <003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com> <4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f3113740806151317x767c2bb6t72cbd44b9a0d3989@mail.gmail.com> I'm staying at the Hotel 71, which is right next door to the CQ on Wacker. I'm planning to take the El. Clayton - Just checked in. -- Clayton Scott clayton.scott at gmail.com From clayton.scott at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 14:03:02 2008 From: clayton.scott at gmail.com (Clayton Scott) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:03:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Anyone going from CQ on Wacker to the Pre-Dinner tonight? Message-ID: <1f3113740806151403y42f0b48ay28abecb72fa685df@mail.gmail.com> Can we meet up so I can tag along? I'm staying at the Hotel 71, right next door to you. Thanks, Clayton -- Clayton Scott clayton.scott at gmail.com From shane.werner at twcable.com Sun Jun 15 14:56:15 2008 From: shane.werner at twcable.com (Werner, Shane) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:56:15 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop References: <1213314235.1873.29.camel@puerca><20080613115347.GA33157@knight.local><1213393789.8153.18.camel@puerca><003D9AD9-7CF4-4282-B38A-06F8EA9F095A@gmail.com><4ad4005e0806131719v733c9f75p627533acbfb9002f@mail.gmail.com> <1f3113740806151317x767c2bb6t72cbd44b9a0d3989@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <82665B12B693474481A2A69504DD6F5DCF9A58@PRVPVSMAIL06.corp.twcable.com> Just got into CQ in the loop (Adams St.) if anyone is interested in meeting up. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+shane.werner=twcable.com at pm.org on behalf of Clayton Scott Sent: Sun 6/15/2008 4:17 PM To: Jeff Bisbee Cc: YAPC Mailing List Subject: Re: [yapc] Around Club Quarters Central Loop I'm staying at the Hotel 71, which is right next door to the CQ on Wacker. I'm planning to take the El. Clayton - Just checked in. -- Clayton Scott clayton.scott at gmail.com _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. From leosusanto at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 15:03:58 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:03:58 -0700 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: <9f7f38940806131743u518dbe3bqbb945ac042686267@mail.gmail.com> References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806131743u518dbe3bqbb945ac042686267@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9f7f38940806151503y6cfc108do76e484b9d6ce6c63@mail.gmail.com> Whoever on winblows just ipconfig /renew - should work On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > URI> wireless net right now. they say reboot but of course that is for > URI> winblows and i am fine with the latest ubuntu. > > why winblows has to reboot? the network installs unholy drivers? > From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 15 15:08:58 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:08:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner meetup Message-ID: the arrival dinner is from 6pm-9pm at goose island - wrigleyville. it is on the red line at the addison station. we are meeting up in the hackathon room on the ground floor of MSV. we will be leaving at 5:30pm. tell anyone who needs to know. thanx, uri, the monger herder -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From andy at petdance.com Sun Jun 15 16:34:04 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:34:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: <9f7f38940806151503y6cfc108do76e484b9d6ce6c63@mail.gmail.com> References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806131743u518dbe3bqbb945ac042686267@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806151503y6cfc108do76e484b9d6ce6c63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E462D7A-91EB-4926-BD01-C7E35D35F166@petdance.com> On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: > unholy drivers? Dude, that's my favorite Dio album! -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From frodwith at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 17:41:05 2008 From: frodwith at gmail.com (Paul Driver) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:41:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://www.mibbit.com/ ajaxy! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: > > > unholy drivers? > > > Dude, that's my favorite Dio album! > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080615/9423364e/attachment.html From frodwith at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 17:43:08 2008 From: frodwith at gmail.com (Paul Driver) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:43:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: <8E462D7A-91EB-4926-BD01-C7E35D35F166@petdance.com> References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806131743u518dbe3bqbb945ac042686267@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806151503y6cfc108do76e484b9d6ce6c63@mail.gmail.com> <8E462D7A-91EB-4926-BD01-C7E35D35F166@petdance.com> Message-ID: You've been down too long in the midnight sea! On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: > > > unholy drivers? > > > Dude, that's my favorite Dio album! > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: > > > unholy drivers? > > > Dude, that's my favorite Dio album! > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080615/9423364e/attachment-0002.html From fluhmann at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 18:55:33 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:55:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Monday night Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806151855o5fe0230ar905eb8b164e6d518@mail.gmail.com> Since I'll be getting to yapc fairly late on Monday and figured I'd miss any outings discussions, I thought I might head to Reggie's Music Joint, just up State St. Looks like no cover, and three bands playing (I don't know about the quality of the bands). Can any Chicago locals comment on the neighborhood around there (and possibly the joint in general)? It's at 2105 State Street. Looks like I can hop a bus for a short distance and be there. I think that's my plan unless I hear of something else happening before I get there. Thanks, Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080615/9df737ef/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Sun Jun 15 19:03:37 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:03:37 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Monday night In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806151855o5fe0230ar905eb8b164e6d518@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806151855o5fe0230ar905eb8b164e6d518@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B938628-502A-4718-8BA5-1EF7DA6A76DF@petdance.com> On Jun 15, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Since I'll be getting to yapc fairly late on Monday and figured I'd > miss any outings discussions, I thought I might head to Reggie's > Music Joint, just up State St. Looks like no cover, and three bands > playing (I don't know about the quality of the bands). Can any > Chicago locals comment on the neighborhood around there (and > possibly the joint in general)? It's at 2105 State Street. Looks > like I can hop a bus for a short distance and be there. From the looks of it, Reggie's is mostly punk bands. Many of them I don't know, but they've got Dead Steel Mill, Sludgeworth and the Effigies in coming weeks, all 90s punk bands reborn/regrouped. Also, Record Breakers, the store that used to be out near my house but now is in the city, has a reasonably punk slant. But then again, I see they've got the keyboardist from the Phil Lesh band last week, so who knows? -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From tim at appnel.com Sun Jun 15 19:51:08 2008 From: tim at appnel.com (Timothy Appnel) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:51:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Recording your session? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806150856j4b8a5bd2g513a7d3b2e685b1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806150856j4b8a5bd2g513a7d3b2e685b1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > What's your platform? OS X Leopard on a creaky G4 Powerbook. From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 15 21:09:16 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:09:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] How do I get access to the wireless? In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806131715u2cdf72caye492afbaf8e9956b@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806131743u518dbe3bqbb945ac042686267@mail.gmail.com> <9f7f38940806151503y6cfc108do76e484b9d6ce6c63@mail.gmail.com> <8E462D7A-91EB-4926-BD01-C7E35D35F166@petdance.com> Message-ID: Actually on windows, it's likeley you'll need to do: ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew The reason is they put you in a totally new subnet once you're registered. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Paul Driver wrote: > You've been down too long in the midnight sea! > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Andy Lester wrote: >> >> On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Leo Susanto wrote: >> >> > unholy drivers? >> >> >> Dude, that's my favorite Dio album! >> >> -- >> Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Henny Youngman - "When I told my doctor I couldn't afford an operation, he offered to touch-up my X-rays." From diakopter at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 21:12:40 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:12:40 -0500 Subject: [yapc] note to self, go there, then Message-ID: so I made a wiki node for myself - http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=diakopter explanation is the first paragraph... if you want to help determine which talk(s) I attend, just edit the wiki page (or mark your votes/suggestions or whatever)..... only kidding; please don't screw with my schedule! From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 15 21:23:24 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:23:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] It is sooooo hot.... Message-ID: In attempts to take some load off of the organizers, I've volunteered to be the point of contact for dorm issues. The big issue right now... IT'S FREAKIN HOT!!! Here is what I've been able to establish: Tonight I spoke with Sahar at the front desk. She was able to confirm that 4th floor South and "Most" of North have a non-functioning water cooler. The reason is known by maintenance to be some sort of problem with a control panel. A replacement part could not be retrieved until Monday. As a result, they have not been able to turn on the water cooling tower that provides the cold to your room radiator. Your fan will function, but no cold air will come out. Tomorrow I will be in contact with the Housing office to establish the status of the AC and will keep everyone up to date on this list when the AC is fixed. Please let me know by emailing me directly if you are having trouble in other areas I have not mentioned so I can track the issues. If you are having any other issues, please let me know and I will be happy to help I am in North 210. Thanks, Todd Rinaldo From leosusanto at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 21:26:29 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:26:29 -0700 Subject: [yapc] It is sooooo hot.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9f7f38940806152126g1fe6d3b0if458377291fb9c4e@mail.gmail.com> I got spare bed over here at N304 - bring your linen and ear plug. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > In attempts to take some load off of the organizers, I've volunteered > to be the point of contact for dorm issues. > > The big issue right now... > > IT'S FREAKIN HOT!!! > > Here is what I've been able to establish: > > Tonight I spoke with Sahar at the front desk. She was able to confirm > that 4th floor South and "Most" of North have a non-functioning water > cooler. The reason is known by maintenance to be some sort of problem > with a control panel. A replacement part could not be retrieved until > Monday. As a result, they have not been able to turn on the water > cooling tower that provides the cold to your room radiator. Your fan > will function, but no cold air will come out. > > Tomorrow I will be in contact with the Housing office to establish the > status of the AC and will keep everyone up to date on this list when > the AC is fixed. Please let me know by emailing me directly if you are > having trouble in other areas I have not mentioned so I can track the > issues. > > If you are having any other issues, please let me know and I will be > happy to help I am in North 210. > > Thanks, > Todd Rinaldo > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From diakopter at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 21:26:59 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:26:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] It is sooooo hot.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > cooler. The reason is known by maintenance to be some sort of problem > with a control panel. A replacement part could not be retrieved until I'd think a control panel could be hotwired-on until then... and make the person responsible for keeping spare parts for such things stay up all night watching it. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 22:26:50 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:26:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Recording your session? In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856j4b8a5bd2g513a7d3b2e685b1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806152226j761c166bjba3aa491f5e379a3@mail.gmail.com> Snapz Pro X and iShowU are two decent recorders that I've used in the past. On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Timothy Appnel wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Joshua McAdams > wrote: > >> What's your platform? > > OS X Leopard on a creaky G4 Powerbook. > From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Sun Jun 15 23:09:33 2008 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (adam.prime at utoronto.ca) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:09:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] It is sooooo hot.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080616020933.03lkath9o8wg04gg@webmail.utoronto.ca> Quoting Todd Rinaldo : > IT'S FREAKIN HOT!!! I'm in fourth floor south, and our AC is working fine (right now). Adam From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 03:07:08 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:07:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] voting over, lets discuss In-Reply-To: <4852AE2C.5060102@buffalo.edu> References: <7f7c2d5e0806130945r44dd3f78m8219862934850e8c@mail.gmail.com> <4852AE2C.5060102@buffalo.edu> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806160307h7f76e92eg786688d29f0798b6@mail.gmail.com> As it stands right now, Pittsburgh is still in the lead on votes (1220). That's not a big difference. I realize YAPC starts today, but I'd like to give a last opportunity for comments/discussion. Thanks, Jeremy On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Jim Brandt wrote: > My vote came out almost equal, with a nudge toward Columbus. The reason it > edged that way, I think, was my vote on the estimated cost. It wasn't the > cost itself, but I was surprised by the sparseness of the budget information > in the Pitt bid. I know we don't provide guidelines, but the Columbus bid > had much better cost breakdowns with estimates per attendee, etc. The Pitt > bit didn't even total everything up. > > I think both groups are capable, but I do have a concern that the full > budget picture isn't there in the Pitt bid. > > Also, I really liked the Columbus groups idea for working with local > businesses. > > Jim > > > Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > >> Okay, so it looks like we have all the votes we're likely to get between >> now >> and YAPC. To view the results, visit >> http://www.petekrawczyk.com/tpf/vote/results.cgi. >> >> According to the voting, it's Pittsburgh over Columbus, 19710 to 18370 (a >> difference of 1340). Does anyone have any discussion items they'd like to >> cover before we crown the winner? >> >> Jeremy >> >> > -- > Jim Brandt > The Perl Foundation > email: cbrandt at perlfoundation.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I normally pull in that schedule, then cut and paste talks I want to attend into a new calendar. -- Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.multiply.com From waltman at pobox.com Mon Jun 16 04:47:18 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:47:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 07:32:14AM -0400, Jeff Bisbee wrote: > I thought I saw a version of the YAPC schedule that could be imported > into iCal/Thunderbird/etc. Its not on the schedule page. Anyone know > where I can find one? I normally pull in that schedule, then cut and > paste talks I want to attend into a new calendar. It's at the top of the wiki homepage. The link is webcal://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA%20Schedule.ics Walt From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 06:37:22 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:37:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> References: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> Message-ID: <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 07:32:14AM -0400, Jeff Bisbee wrote: >> I thought I saw a version of the YAPC schedule that could be imported >> into iCal/Thunderbird/etc. Its not on the schedule page. Anyone >> know >> where I can find one? I normally pull in that schedule, then cut and >> paste talks I want to attend into a new calendar. > > It's at the top of the wiki homepage. The link is > webcal://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA%20Schedule.ics > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc It should be up to date, however I just noticed that some of the Monday afternoon sessions are showing from the old schedule. I just made the changes, so you may want to resync. Hopefully it won't go back to the old schedule again. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhWbJIACgkQZWzkfeDiTw5KkACglhfish0IiNxn/5Y8RVJlTutm yvkAn0ZI9f7rkSDfLmHQKryl3Ww+U+AI =YYH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 06:47:56 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:47:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] WiFi in the Convention Center Message-ID: <018A8A7C-2EA6-4DCD-84D2-97F68A5A321D@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey, Are there instructions somewhere on how to use the WiFi during the conference? I didn't see anything in the welcome packet. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhWbwwACgkQZWzkfeDiTw4f5QCfXSUWhlz83FicjZllCSq/tRfr sswAnRJkERJCiK/+LoSTUT26LAqIhxsq =stfb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net Mon Jun 16 06:54:51 2008 From: hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:54:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] WiFi in the Convention Center In-Reply-To: <018A8A7C-2EA6-4DCD-84D2-97F68A5A321D@yarrish.com> References: <018A8A7C-2EA6-4DCD-84D2-97F68A5A321D@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <20080616135451.GA4633@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Tom Yarrish wrote: > Are there instructions somewhere on how to use the WiFi during the > conference? I didn't see anything in the welcome packet. There are generic network instructions, which work for both wired and wireless access. hdp. From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 06:58:01 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:58:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] WiFi in the Convention Center In-Reply-To: <20080616135451.GA4633@glaive.weftsoar.net> References: <018A8A7C-2EA6-4DCD-84D2-97F68A5A321D@yarrish.com> <20080616135451.GA4633@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: <80DAD9B7-6424-42DF-8C3E-062BBB62E127@yarrish.com> Where are they (or was it something that those who are staying on site recieved)? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Tom Yarrish wrote: >> Are there instructions somewhere on how to use the WiFi during the >> conference? I didn't see anything in the welcome packet. > > There are generic network instructions, which work for both wired > and wireless > access. > > hdp. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net Mon Jun 16 07:09:44 2008 From: hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:09:44 -0400 Subject: [yapc] WiFi in the Convention Center In-Reply-To: <80DAD9B7-6424-42DF-8C3E-062BBB62E127@yarrish.com> References: <018A8A7C-2EA6-4DCD-84D2-97F68A5A321D@yarrish.com> <20080616135451.GA4633@glaive.weftsoar.net> <80DAD9B7-6424-42DF-8C3E-062BBB62E127@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <20080616140944.GA4720@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:58:01AM -0500, Tom Yarrish wrote: > Where are they (or was it something that those who are staying on site > recieved)? Oh, right. It was in the dorm checkin stuff. Get on the IIT network, try to go somewhere in your web browser, then fill out the registration form. use iit-guest as the username and hawks2008 as the password when it asks you for them (a few pages in). then release your dhcp lease and get a new one, however your OS does that. hdp. From diakopter at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 08:29:38 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:29:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I opened up two more iit subnets to use the irc socks proxy - 67.207.0.0/16 and 216.47.0.0/16 From diakopter at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 09:13:13 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:13:13 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Anyone know how t make use of these with Colloquy? Probably on the mac you'd have to set it in the global system networking settings, but then nothing else (except Firefox, which doesn't use the system-set socks proxy) would work... From david at kineticode.com Mon Jun 16 09:18:05 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:18:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> On Jun 16, 2008, at 11:13, Diakopter . wrote: > Probably on the mac you'd have to set it in the global system > networking settings, but then nothing else (except Firefox, which > doesn't use the system-set socks proxy) would work... Damn. Thanks. David From diakopter at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 09:29:04 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:29:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> Message-ID: > Damn. Thanks. Nothing else meaning the GUI apps. The CLI apps usually have their own settings. From toddr at null.net Mon Jun 16 11:05:37 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:05:37 -0500 Subject: [yapc] It is sooooo hot.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fellow Dormers, I have spoken with housing who reports that the AC was supposed to have been fixed as of last night. If anyone has specifics as to what rooms had AC issues, please let me know so I can get this information back to Housing before tonight. If you continue to have AC issues, please fill out the form on the link below so that they can address the issue before tonight. Before you do so, you might check the settings on your window AC, by opening the "secret panel" on the left hand side. http://housing.iit.edu/workorder.php Please let me know off list if you have any issues or questions, Thanks, toddr at null.net On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > In attempts to take some load off of the organizers, I've volunteered > to be the point of contact for dorm issues. > > The big issue right now... > > IT'S FREAKIN HOT!!! > > Here is what I've been able to establish: > > Tonight I spoke with Sahar at the front desk. She was able to confirm > that 4th floor South and "Most" of North have a non-functioning water > cooler. The reason is known by maintenance to be some sort of problem > with a control panel. A replacement part could not be retrieved until > Monday. As a result, they have not been able to turn on the water > cooling tower that provides the cold to your room radiator. Your fan > will function, but no cold air will come out. > > Tomorrow I will be in contact with the Housing office to establish the > status of the AC and will keep everyone up to date on this list when > the AC is fixed. Please let me know by emailing me directly if you are > having trouble in other areas I have not mentioned so I can track the > issues. > > If you are having any other issues, please let me know and I will be > happy to help I am in North 210. > > Thanks, > Todd Rinaldo > -- Rodney Dangerfield - "I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her." From autarch at urth.org Mon Jun 16 11:09:13 2008 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:09:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Free dorm room with AC available Message-ID: So I decided that my comfort was more important than my wallet, and I'll be staying in a hotel the next two nights. I have a key to a dorm room with working AC, so if someone wants to stay there, find me. You have to give me back the key on Wednesday so I can check out, though. -dave /*========================== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==========================*/ From jay at jays.net Mon Jun 16 11:57:13 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:57:13 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> References: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <1DB6693D-28BA-4C0D-AEC3-0A9F879D648C@jays.net> On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Tom Yarrish wrote: >> It's at the top of the wiki homepage. The link is >> webcal://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA%20Schedule.ics > > It should be up to date, however I just noticed that some of the > Monday afternoon sessions are showing from the old schedule. I just > made the changes, so you may want to resync. > Hopefully it won't go back to the old schedule again. This one should be removed? Unicode for Silly Americans (Steve Peters) j From andreas.marienborg at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 12:02:25 2008 From: andreas.marienborg at gmail.com (Andreas Marienborg) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:02:25 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> References: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> Message-ID: It seems its still on the old one? I'm in a DBI-Link lecture now, thinking I'm in a Unicode-speech, followed by a LISP talk. - andreas On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Tom Yarrish wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 07:32:14AM -0400, Jeff Bisbee wrote: >>> I thought I saw a version of the YAPC schedule that could be >>> imported >>> into iCal/Thunderbird/etc. Its not on the schedule page. Anyone >>> know >>> where I can find one? I normally pull in that schedule, then cut >>> and >>> paste talks I want to attend into a new calendar. >> >> It's at the top of the wiki homepage. The link is >> webcal://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA%20Schedule.ics >> >> Walt >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > It should be up to date, however I just noticed that some of the > Monday afternoon sessions are showing from the old schedule. I just > made the changes, so you may want to resync. > Hopefully it won't go back to the old schedule again. > > Tom > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkhWbJIACgkQZWzkfeDiTw5KkACglhfish0IiNxn/5Y8RVJlTutm > yvkAn0ZI9f7rkSDfLmHQKryl3Ww+U+AI > =YYH9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 16 12:20:27 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:20:27 +0000 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28782@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> At the risk of scorn since I haven't used IRC since the last YAPC...is this still up or did this fail with the wifi issues? I'm using pidgin and wasn't sure if it was SOCKS5 or SOCKS4...anway, anyone else having any issues or is it just me? -DanE / mudarm //learned his irc commands from fark.com ;-) ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+dan.ellenbaum=weatherinsight.com at pm.org on behalf of Diakopter . Sent: Mon 6/16/2008 10:29 AM To: yapc Subject: Re: [yapc] irc access from IIT I opened up two more iit subnets to use the irc socks proxy - 67.207.0.0/16 and 216.47.0.0/16 _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 12:20:00 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:20:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: References: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <01B576D6-FFBA-427C-BC2A-C3B991DDB9ED@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 16, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Andreas Marienborg wrote: > It seems its still on the old one? I'm in a DBI-Link lecture now, > thinking I'm in a Unicode-speech, followed by a LISP talk. > > - andreas > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Tom Yarrish wrote: >> Yeah it wasn't updating. I just had to remove it and re-add it. So you'll need to unsubscribe to it and then subscribe to this one: http://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA.ics I'd have to look into why it wasn't publishing my updates when I made the changes. Sorry about that... Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhWvOAACgkQZWzkfeDiTw5IJwCeOUW44MhGWT7NlkPheEz7CI/G HhcAniZ+mFl/wZHaUhoz5mItdJZzVjPs =YarZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From diakopter at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 13:11:02 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:11:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28782@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28782@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: > At the risk of scorn since I haven't used IRC since the last YAPC...is this still up or did this fail with the wifi issues? I'm using pidgin and wasn't sure if it was SOCKS5 or SOCKS4...anway, anyone else having any issues or is it just me? about 15 people are using it currently... I think you can use either 4 or 5. From mike at altrion.org Mon Jun 16 11:09:27 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:09:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> Message-ID: On 16 Jun 2008, at 11:29, Diakopter . wrote: >> Damn. Thanks. > > Nothing else meaning the GUI apps. The CLI apps usually have their > own settings. It /should/ work for xchat-aqua, which has a proxy preference. However, if I try it just disconnects instantly. -- Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org From diakopter at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 13:21:53 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:21:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc access from IIT In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> Message-ID: what's your public IP address (http://www.whatismyip.com/); maybe you're on a subnet that I've not yet permitted... From leosusanto at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 14:11:01 2008 From: leosusanto at gmail.com (Leo Susanto) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:11:01 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WhiteCastleBOF Message-ID: <9f7f38940806161411s17aafeddo3ae0f74eeb2d0966@mail.gmail.com> What happened to this BOF? From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 14:15:39 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:15:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] .ics Version of the Schedule In-Reply-To: <01B576D6-FFBA-427C-BC2A-C3B991DDB9ED@yarrish.com> References: <20080616114718.GC26034@mawode.com> <3EC8BF07-D716-462A-8658-7515270913FA@yarrish.com> <01B576D6-FFBA-427C-BC2A-C3B991DDB9ED@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <0B60A2D9-574D-4793-A34E-DABF101D7A98@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 16, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Tom Yarrish wrote: > Yeah it wasn't updating. I just had to remove it and re-add it. So > you'll need to unsubscribe to it and then subscribe to this one: > > http://icalx.com/public/cdtdelta/2008%20YAPC:NA.ics > > I'd have to look into why it wasn't publishing my updates when I > made the changes. Sorry about that... > > Tom FYI, I just updated the home page of the wiki to point to the right iCal file again. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhW1/sACgkQZWzkfeDiTw6kxACeNzmyTiWwVINMoDMDKicdlcKx E7IAnRZUV1ls16zyRfSk5RNAWT0IixoG =vNV3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 16 15:24:44 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:24:44 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms @ 7 PM References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com>< b96789420806160829s63d6b4fbqa7e63a0e1898291f@mail.gmail.com><70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28785@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms @ 7 PM We'll take red line up to Chinatown and grab some dinner....there's a bunch of good restaurants there... From fluhmann at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 16:03:42 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:03:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms @ 7 PM In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28785@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com> <70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28785@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806161603k752e7eb3h3bee2944dba324af@mail.gmail.com> Darn. I won't get to IIT until around 9:00p. Chances are, I'll keep my plans to head to Reggie's Music Joint if anyone wants to go. Jeremy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ellenbaum, Dan" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:24:44 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms @ 7 PM To: yapc at pm.org Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms @ 7 PM We'll take red line up to Chinatown and grab some dinner....there's a bunch of good restaurants there... _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From yapc at perlmeister.com Mon Jun 16 16:23:55 2008 From: yapc at perlmeister.com (Mike Schilli) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? Message-ID: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. -- Mike Mike Schilli yapc at perlmeister.com From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 16 16:43:42 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:43:42 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby of dorms@ 7 PM References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail.com><70A0E7B5-0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28785@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <7f7c2d5e0806161603k752e7eb3h3bee2944dba324af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E2878A@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Crap! My fellow houstonian friend...where is reggie's? Oh crap, i'm leaving soon, my cell is 713-398-5604 if you want to meet up, but i may low after last night at Goose Island...i blame that bartender downstairs! ;-) There is a basement japanese karoake bar in chinatown, think it's right across street from the big gates off cermak (just west of Red line El stop)...I doubt many people will be in there tho...but it's pretty damn authentic place... ---------- Darn. I won't get to IIT until around 9:00p. Chances are, I'll keep my plans to head to Reggie's Music Joint if anyone wants to go. Jeremy From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 16:51:32 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:51:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50234738-5890-4A67-805B-0A23407FC8EB@yarrish.com> If memory serves the Berghoff closed down last year. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mike Schilli wrote: > There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 > W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for > vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. > > -- Mike > > Mike Schilli > yapc at perlmeister.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 16 16:52:20 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:52:20 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby ofdorms@ 7 PM References: <49d805d70806150856s5c35166bm72bd274fbe66856d@mail.gmail .com><70A0E7B5 -0141-4C6F-8ED0-E62428708235@kineticode.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E28785@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><7f7c2d5e080616160 3k752e7eb3h3bee2944dba324af@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E2878A@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E2878B@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Damn, guess i need more sleep, stupid bartender! ;-) I see it, just east of Cermak red line el stop, up state (2105 S State) to first big street, 21rst...if a beer at dinner revives my stupidity and hankering for punishment, i may see ya up there! ;-) ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+dan.ellenbaum=weatherinsight.com at pm.org on behalf of Ellenbaum, Dan Sent: Mon 6/16/2008 6:43 PM To: Jeremy Fluhmann; yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Chinatown BOF - Today (Mon.) meet in main lobby ofdorms@ 7 PM Crap! My fellow houstonian friend...where is reggie's? Oh crap, i'm leaving soon, my cell is 713-398-5604 if you want to meet up, but i may low after last night at Goose Island...i blame that bartender downstairs! ;-) There is a basement japanese karoake bar in chinatown, think it's right across street from the big gates off cermak (just west of Red line El stop)...I doubt many people will be in there tho...but it's pretty damn authentic place... ---------- Darn. I won't get to IIT until around 9:00p. Chances are, I'll keep my plans to head to Reggie's Music Joint if anyone wants to go. Jeremy From yapc at perlmeister.com Mon Jun 16 17:07:06 2008 From: yapc at perlmeister.com (Mike Schilli) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <50234738-5890-4A67-805B-0A23407FC8EB@yarrish.com> References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <50234738-5890-4A67-805B-0A23407FC8EB@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <20080616170610.R7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Tom Yarrish wrote: > If memory serves the Berghoff closed down last year. It's definitely open tonight and they're serving Wiener Schnitzel for $14.95. Jambo! -- Mike Mike Schilli yapc at perlmeister.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Mike Schilli wrote: > > > There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 > > W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for > > vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. > > > > -- Mike > > > > Mike Schilli > > yapc at perlmeister.com > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joakim.lagerqvist at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 18:21:23 2008 From: joakim.lagerqvist at gmail.com (Joakim Lagerqvist) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:21:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Presentations/slides Message-ID: <2e7c9dd20806161821v57c4b4dfp48256898268befc9@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Will the presentations be available online for downloads? cheers, Joakim Lagerqvist From merlyn at stonehenge.com Mon Jun 16 19:07:55 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:07:55 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> (Mike Schilli's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:23:55 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Schilli writes: Mike> There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 Mike> W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for Mike> vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. Berghoff is great. Used to come there 15 years ago when I was writing Perl code for a Large Bank based here. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From fitz at google.com Mon Jun 16 19:18:03 2008 From: fitz at google.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:18:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: Be warned: the Berghoff closed last year and "reopened" with basically the bar menu. The restaurant is eesentially closed, as this page states: http://www.berghoff.com/Berghoff/home.html The main remaining decent German restaurant is The Chicago Brauhaus on the North side (a block from the Western brown line stop), but that's a haul from downtown. -Fitz On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Schilli writes: > > Mike> There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 > Mike> W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for > Mike> vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. > > Berghoff is great. Used to come there 15 years ago when I was writing > Perl code for a Large Bank based here. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 16 19:33:02 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:33:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > Be warned: the Berghoff closed last year and "reopened" with basically > the bar menu. The restaurant is eesentially closed, as this page > states: > > http://www.berghoff.com/Berghoff/home.html > > The main remaining decent German restaurant is The Chicago Brauhaus on > the North side (a block from the Western brown line stop), but that's > a haul from downtown. > > -Fitz > That's what it was. I knew I remembered a big bruhaha about the Berghoff last year. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhXIl4ACgkQZWzkfeDiTw7f2QCeJBG9K0muraERJJNOGl8EsV8P L4MAn2JrLM4oumv0VcSbJML6NoPU/mHf =HF5N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 19:37:47 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:37:47 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Presentations/slides In-Reply-To: <2e7c9dd20806161821v57c4b4dfp48256898268befc9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e7c9dd20806161821v57c4b4dfp48256898268befc9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806161937r749a2dd1la815abdb23b57faf@mail.gmail.com> > Will the presentations be available online for downloads? That is up to each of the speakers. I've started a wiki page for the links to live: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Links%20to%20Slides From yapc at perlmeister.com Mon Jun 16 19:39:42 2008 From: yapc at perlmeister.com (Mike Schilli) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20080616193056.J7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > Be warned: the Berghoff closed last year and "reopened" with basically > the bar menu. Yeah, the food was ok, but more like what-americans-think-germans-eat than actual German food. You can't really compare it to a genuine German restaurant, like, say, Suppenk?che in San Francisco. > The main remaining decent German restaurant is The Chicago Brauhaus on > the North side (a block from the Western brown line stop), but that's > a haul from downtown. Hmm, doable, 40mins by pubtrans, when's the next Chicago YAPC? ... :) -- Mike Mike Schilli yapc at perlmeister.com > > -Fitz > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > >>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Schilli writes: > > > > Mike> There's this "German-American" restaurant called "Berghoff" on 11 > > Mike> W Adams that I'd like to try out -- anyone up for it? Not for > > Mike> vegetarians or beer-haters! I'm planning to go at 7. > > > > Berghoff is great. Used to come there 15 years ago when I was writing > > Perl code for a Large Bank based here. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > From david at axiombox.com Mon Jun 16 20:48:54 2008 From: david at axiombox.com (David Moreno) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:48:54 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <20080616193056.J7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20080616193056.J7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1213674534.3741.3.camel@puerca> On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 19:39 -0700, Mike Schilli wrote: > Yeah, the food was ok, but more like what-americans-think-germans-eat > than actual German food. You can't really compare it to a genuine German > restaurant, like, say, Suppenk?che in San Francisco. Well, that is the usual thing for every single international food in the States or anywhere else but in its own country. I don't know why this would be surprising or new. -- David Moreno Garza http://damog.net/ http://axiombox.com/ From fitz at google.com Mon Jun 16 19:52:53 2008 From: fitz at google.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:52:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Anyone for German-American food at 7pm? In-Reply-To: <20080616193056.J7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> References: <20080616162302.Y7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> <8663s8reys.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20080616193056.J7212@spiral.corp.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Mike Schilli wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Brian W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Be warned: the Berghoff closed last year and "reopened" with basically >> the bar menu. > > Yeah, the food was ok, but more like what-americans-think-germans-eat > than actual German food. You can't really compare it to a genuine German > restaurant, like, say, Suppenk?che in San Francisco. Suppenk?che is *awesome*. I think it's better than the Chicago Brauhaus. -Fitz From carol at carolstone.com Mon Jun 16 20:33:12 2008 From: carol at carolstone.com (Carol Stone) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:33:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Knit and Perl for lunch on Tuesday? Message-ID: <48573078.1050409@carolstone.com> Knitting at lunch anyone? http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Knitting%20BOF -carol From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 20:44:26 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:44:26 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Larry on ebay Message-ID: <49d805d70806162044y5ab5cc8dg1d8800ecc7ffbce4@mail.gmail.com> Back in 2006 we auctioned off a Larry Wall action figure. As if to commemorate the second YAPC::NA in Chicago, the second of only a handful of limited addition figures is being auctioned off on ebay [http://tinyurl.com/5wn8fy]. Check it out, the auction ends this week. From joshua.gatcomb at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 06:30:03 2008 From: joshua.gatcomb at gmail.com (Joshua Gatcomb) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:30:03 -0400 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite Message-ID: <941eab840806170630v4c0e36ccq875252ce7d39aa42@mail.gmail.com> PerlMonks, For those of you at the conference not checking the BOF wiki - we have decided on a date and time Apparently it is tradition for the PerlMonks group to have lunch together on the last day of the conference. So...... Lunch on Wednesday (place still TBD) Hope to see you there Joshua Gatcomb a.k.a. Limbic~Region -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe we can get more people interested with a wee bit more time! Carol Stone wrote: > Knitting at lunch anyone? > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=Knitting%20BOF > > -carol > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 08:04:01 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:04:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] voting over, lets discuss In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806160307h7f76e92eg786688d29f0798b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806130945r44dd3f78m8219862934850e8c@mail.gmail.com> <4852AE2C.5060102@buffalo.edu> <7f7c2d5e0806160307h7f76e92eg786688d29f0798b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806170804r6912f792s70d8a8652ef15fcb@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to offer a big apology to Columbus.pm, Pittsburgh.pm, Jim Brandt, and the Conferences Committee in general. 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URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080617/228eb6f7/attachment.html From kyleha at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 13:32:51 2008 From: kyleha at gmail.com (Kyle Hasselbacher) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:32:51 -0500 Subject: [yapc] dorm checkout for Wednesday departure In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <67f92c910806171332i450dc624id4fda7f04ae3b752@mail.gmail.com> I'm interested in an answer to this also. There's a student lounge across the hall from my room. Would it be safe to leave a bag there? Are there (big) lockers somewhere? Kyle. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Jason Gottshall wrote: > According to dorm packet, checkout is 9AM. Those who miss it will be charged > $150. So if I'm leaving Wednesday after the last session, I'll have to > checkout of the dorm in the morning. At that point, is there some place I > can dump my luggage for the day, or must I lug it around with me? From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Jun 17 13:11:02 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:11:02 -0700 Subject: [yapc] dorm checkout for Wednesday departure In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> (Jason Gottshall's message of "Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:18:12 -0400") References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <86abhjom95.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Jason" == Jason Gottshall writes: Jason> According to dorm packet, checkout is 9AM. Those who miss it will be Jason> charged $150. So if I'm leaving Wednesday after the last session, I'll Jason> have to checkout of the dorm in the morning. At that point, is there Jason> some place I can dump my luggage for the day, or must I lug it around Jason> with me? Two years ago, Josh ran a "parking lot" for baggage at the conference desk. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From zak.zebrowski at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 13:51:38 2008 From: zak.zebrowski at gmail.com (Zachary Zebrowski) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:51:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] dorm checkout for Wednesday departure In-Reply-To: <67f92c910806171332i450dc624id4fda7f04ae3b752@mail.gmail.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> <67f92c910806171332i450dc624id4fda7f04ae3b752@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0ACA19D0-8E51-491A-94AB-73101B2107ED@gmail.com> It was announced today at a presentation that there will be space available behind the registration desk at the conference center... Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:32 PM, "Kyle Hasselbacher" wrote: > I'm interested in an answer to this also. There's a student lounge > across the hall from my room. Would it be safe to leave a bag there? > Are there (big) lockers somewhere? > > Kyle. > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Jason Gottshall > wrote: >> According to dorm packet, checkout is 9AM. Those who miss it will >> be charged >> $150. So if I'm leaving Wednesday after the last session, I'll have >> to >> checkout of the dorm in the morning. At that point, is there some >> place I >> can dump my luggage for the day, or must I lug it around with me? > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 14:00:58 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:00:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] dorm checkout for Wednesday departure In-Reply-To: <86abhjom95.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE638@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> <86abhjom95.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806171400m7012a944uacb43625388af110@mail.gmail.com> Yes, you can check your bags at the registration desk in the morning. Dorm checkout is officially at 9 a.m. each day and tomorrow we probably won't get much wiggle-room because there is a big group that is moving in early tomorrow afternoon. Please check out and check your bags if you are leaving tomorrow. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Gottshall writes: > > Jason> According to dorm packet, checkout is 9AM. Those who miss it will be > Jason> charged $150. So if I'm leaving Wednesday after the last session, I'll > Jason> have to checkout of the dorm in the morning. At that point, is there > Jason> some place I can dump my luggage for the day, or must I lug it around > Jason> with me? > > Two years ago, Josh ran a "parking lot" for baggage at the conference desk. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 14:14:09 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A note about checking out of the dorms Message-ID: <49d805d70806171414h48c12645od4bf3708d5b725cf@mail.gmail.com> There was some confusion about my last announcement. Everyone DOES NOT have to check out of the dorms tomorrow. If it is your day to check out, then please do so by 9am. If it is not your day to check out, then please check out by 9am on the day that you plan on leaving the dorms. Tomorrow is just a little more important, because the dorms are immediately being used after we leave. From ken.olstad at pobox.com Tue Jun 17 20:36:23 2008 From: ken.olstad at pobox.com (Ken Olstad) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:36:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] seeking a ride home to Minnesota after YAPC the master classes Message-ID: Anybody driving to Minneapolis (or thereabouts) after the master classes? I'd like to catch a ride (and of course help pay for gas). Plan A was to get there by train but Amtrak has suspended rail service between Chicago and St. Paul due to the flooding in Wisconsin, and I'd like to have a plan B to get home in case they haven't resumed service by the end of the week. Plan C is to fly back but at this late date that's going to be pricey. So, drop me a line if you have room for one more. Thanks. Ken From tyemq at cpan.org Tue Jun 17 21:20:53 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:20:53 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday Message-ID: I've updated the wiki ( http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PerlMonks%20BOF) with most of the details about our lunch arrangements. To save y'all a click, here is what I wrote: We'll be having lunch at a nice place in China Town that serves Asian food (but whose name I don't have handy at the moment). Let's meet in front of the Crown Room (the "locked room" behind the registration table, SE part of the Herman Union Building) at 12:05. We'll leave at 12:10 to walk to the Red Line (if you don't have a transit pass already, then you'll have to walk a couple of extra blocks to the far side of the station). And bringing cash will make it easier to settle the bill (for lunch and for buying Larry). Thanks. Note that this means that we will miss the first part of the Lightning talks. (Strong arguments to go earlier and thus missing a different set of talks can be entertained but only if made by quite early Wednesday). Thanks, Tye On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > PerlMonks, > > For those of you at the conference not checking the BOF wiki - we have > decided on a date and time > > Apparently it is tradition for the PerlMonks group to have lunch together > on the last day of the conference. > > So...... > > Lunch on Wednesday (place still TBD) > > > Hope to see you there > > Joshua Gatcomb > a.k.a. Limbic~Region > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: hi to all yapc banqueters, i am pissed. i was promised an air hockey table at the banquets. josh confirmed they had one. but zach (the bowling shoe and all around helpful kid) said it broke and they pulled it out of there. i was looking forward to air hockey, skinned knuckles and forcing plastic discs down my opponents throat. i even spied air hockey paddles in a drawer and that is when zach told me the sad news. i didn't bowl, shoot pool, play ping pong, do video games. i wanted air hockey. did everyone else but me have a good time? :) uri, the best auctioneer yapc has (except for jess! :) -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Wed Jun 18 01:38:06 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:38:06 +0000 Subject: [yapc] i am pissed! References: Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01E287A2@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> the game a few of us played was..."find the hard liquor" thanks to heather (thanks heather!) we were able to get to a place prior to the MST BOF...in other words, Uri, , we had a _very_ good time! YAY! :-) -DanE http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/user/1804 P.S. why am i still up? ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+dan.ellenbaum=weatherinsight.com at pm.org on behalf of Uri Guttman Sent: Wed 6/18/2008 3:27 AM To: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: [yapc] i am pissed! hi to all yapc banqueters, i am pissed. i was promised an air hockey table at the banquets. josh confirmed they had one. but zach (the bowling shoe and all around helpful kid) said it broke and they pulled it out of there. i was looking forward to air hockey, skinned knuckles and forcing plastic discs down my opponents throat. i even spied air hockey paddles in a drawer and that is when zach told me the sad news. i didn't bowl, shoot pool, play ping pong, do video games. i wanted air hockey. did everyone else but me have a good time? :) uri, the best auctioneer yapc has (except for jess! :) -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tyemq at cpan.org Wed Jun 18 02:59:51 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:59:51 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've had one private call for "the lightning talks are usually the best part of YAPC". I certainly don't mind going to lunch earlier rather than later. If y'all can come to agreement on this by, say, 10am (ie, how long will it take to ride the train, get lunch, and get back and how early would it make sense to leave to have the chance to see more of the lightning talks?) then I think we can change the plans. Personally, I've been up way too late having fun so I will miss the first round(s) of negotiating such a schedule change. My original idea was to leave before noon in order to beat any "lunch rush" but the schedule has talks until 12:05 and skipping the last round of talks only gets us heading out at 11:45 which likely doesn't get us at the restaurant soon enough to really beat any "rush" and likely also doesn't get us back before the lightning talks start so I revised my plan to what I sent out. I'd be fine with skipping the last two rounds of talks and leaving around 11 if that works for a majority. So speak up and negotiate a consensus before it gets too late. Thanks, Tye On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Tye McQueen wrote: > I've updated the wiki ( > http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PerlMonks%20BOF) with > most of the details about our lunch arrangements. To save y'all a click, > here is what I wrote: > > We'll be having lunch at a nice place in China Town that serves Asian food > (but whose name I don't have handy at the moment). > > Let's meet in front of the Crown Room (the "locked room" behind the > registration table, SE part of the Herman Union Building) at 12:05. We'll > leave at 12:10 to walk to the Red Line (if you don't have a transit pass > already, then you'll have to walk a couple of extra blocks to the far side > of the station). And bringing cash will make it easier to settle the bill > (for lunch and for buying Larry). Thanks. > > Note that this means that we will miss the first part of the Lightning > talks. (Strong arguments to go earlier and thus missing a different set of > talks can be entertained but only if made by quite early Wednesday). > > Thanks, > Tye > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Joshua Gatcomb > wrote: > >> PerlMonks, >> >> For those of you at the conference not checking the BOF wiki - we have >> decided on a date and time >> >> Apparently it is tradition for the PerlMonks group to have lunch together >> on the last day of the conference. >> >> So...... >> >> Lunch on Wednesday (place still TBD) >> >> >> Hope to see you there >> >> Joshua Gatcomb >> a.k.a. Limbic~Region >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Want a managed development or deployment platform? http://chainsawblues.vox.com/ http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/servers/ From zaz at mitre.org Wed Jun 18 05:43:56 2008 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:43:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday References: Message-ID: FWIW, I would like to see the "conversations with radios" talk. Though, if someone is taping it / presentation slides made available, I could easily be convinced to go to lunch instead... ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+zaz=mitre.org at pm.org on behalf of Tye McQueen Sent: Wed 6/18/2008 5:59 AM To: Joshua Gatcomb Cc: yapc at pm.org; jess at pavlin.ca Subject: Re: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday I've had one private call for "the lightning talks are usually the best part of YAPC". I certainly don't mind going to lunch earlier rather than later. If y'all can come to agreement on this by, say, 10am (ie, how long will it take to ride the train, get lunch, and get back and how early would it make sense to leave to have the chance to see more of the lightning talks?) then I think we can change the plans. Personally, I've been up way too late having fun so I will miss the first round(s) of negotiating such a schedule change. My original idea was to leave before noon in order to beat any "lunch rush" but the schedule has talks until 12:05 and skipping the last round of talks only gets us heading out at 11:45 which likely doesn't get us at the restaurant soon enough to really beat any "rush" and likely also doesn't get us back before the lightning talks start so I revised my plan to what I sent out. I'd be fine with skipping the last two rounds of talks and leaving around 11 if that works for a majority. So speak up and negotiate a consensus before it gets too late. Thanks, Tye On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Tye McQueen wrote: I've updated the wiki (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/wiki?node=PerlMonks%20BOF) with most of the details about our lunch arrangements. To save y'all a click, here is what I wrote: We'll be having lunch at a nice place in China Town that serves Asian food (but whose name I don't have handy at the moment). Let's meet in front of the Crown Room (the "locked room" behind the registration table, SE part of the Herman Union Building) at 12:05. We'll leave at 12:10 to walk to the Red Line (if you don't have a transit pass already, then you'll have to walk a couple of extra blocks to the far side of the station). And bringing cash will make it easier to settle the bill (for lunch and for buying Larry). Thanks. Note that this means that we will miss the first part of the Lightning talks. (Strong arguments to go earlier and thus missing a different set of talks can be entertained but only if made by quite early Wednesday). Thanks, Tye On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: PerlMonks, For those of you at the conference not checking the BOF wiki - we have decided on a date and time Apparently it is tradition for the PerlMonks group to have lunch together on the last day of the conference. So...... Lunch on Wednesday (place still TBD) Hope to see you there Joshua Gatcomb a.k.a. Limbic~Region _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From zaz at mitre.org Wed Jun 18 07:33:31 2008 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:33:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: Given that, 11am sounds good. Thanks for letting me know that. Zak ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+zaz=mitre.org at pm.org on behalf of Hans Dieter Pearcey Sent: Wed 6/18/2008 9:52 AM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:43:56AM -0400, Zebrowski, Zak wrote: > FWIW, I would like to see the "conversations with radios" talk. Though, if > someone is taping it / presentation slides made available, I could easily be > convinced to go to lunch instead... I don't think Gene's here. I heard noises about him possibly not coming before YAPC and I haven't seen him at all. hdp. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080618/ebf795b9/attachment-0001.html From larry at wall.org Wed Jun 18 07:40:29 2008 From: larry at wall.org (Larry Wall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:40:29 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: <20080618144029.GA8231@wall.org> 11 is fine for me too. Larry From bruce.gray at acm.org Wed Jun 18 08:04:02 2008 From: bruce.gray at acm.org (Bruce Gray) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:04:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> > On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Zebrowski, Zak wrote: > FWIW, I would like to see the "conversations with radios" talk. > Though, if someone is taping it / presentation slides made > available, I could easily be convinced to go to lunch instead... Monks Jerry Gay (Particle), Josh ben Jore (diotalevi), and David Wheeler (Theory) are all giving lightning talks. Is there anywhere within walking distance that would allow us to leave and return during the scheduled lunch time (12:05-13:00)? Seeing each other, and our special guests, is the key thing (rather than food). From larry at wall.org Wed Jun 18 08:15:30 2008 From: larry at wall.org (Larry Wall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:15:30 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> Message-ID: <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:04:02AM -0500, Bruce Gray wrote: : Is there anywhere within walking distance that would allow us to : leave and return during the scheduled lunch time (12:05-13:00)? I'm not aware of any--we'd have to ask a native. : Seeing each other, and our special guests, is the key thing (rather : than food). I agree, and while they were making jokes about Wendy's last year, it was really my idea. So I don't mind if we all just sit around a monks' table at the cafeteria even. I don't participate in the auction just to get a free meal. :) Larry From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 18 08:26:19 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> Message-ID: <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:15:30AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:04:02AM -0500, Bruce Gray wrote: > : Is there anywhere within walking distance that would allow us to > : leave and return during the scheduled lunch time (12:05-13:00)? > > I'm not aware of any--we'd have to ask a native. If you walk out to State St. (it's the divided street in between here and the student center) and turn right, there's a sandwich place called Jimmy John's down at 35th. I walked past it yesterday. (It's next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. Walt From kyleha at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 08:33:42 2008 From: kyleha at gmail.com (Kyle Hasselbacher) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:33:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> Message-ID: <67f92c910806180833q5791f07fhcc93f9b43240e23d@mail.gmail.com> http://www.jimmyjohns.com/ for those unfamiliar. On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > If you walk out to State St. (it's the divided street in between here > and the student center) and turn right, there's a sandwich place > called Jimmy John's down at 35th. I walked past it yesterday. (It's > next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line > station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. From chris at fedde.us Wed Jun 18 08:34:31 2008 From: chris at fedde.us (chris fedde) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:34:31 -0600 Subject: [yapc] tourist day. Message-ID: <7de3d64f0806180834m65cb546cuf9d5260ce21f1721@mail.gmail.com> I'm still in town tomorrow and am not _planning_ to do anything perlish. Anyone interested in doing the tourist thing? cfedde -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(It's > next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line > station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. > It's a chain and it's fast food, but it's pretty good considering. Andrew From jason at froebe.net Wed Jun 18 08:37:49 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] tshirts and baggies Message-ID: <848964.58268.qm@web808.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I suspect that there are several people that paid for the conference but were unable to attend for one reason or another. Can they have the tshirt & gift baggie shipped to them? Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. From yapc at packy.org Wed Jun 18 08:38:55 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:38:55 -0500 Subject: [yapc] tourist day. In-Reply-To: <7de3d64f0806180834m65cb546cuf9d5260ce21f1721@mail.gmail.com> References: <7de3d64f0806180834m65cb546cuf9d5260ce21f1721@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, my fiancee and I are sticking around until Saturday to do the tourist thing--we even have tickets to a show tomorrow night. Since she's not a Perl (h|sl)acker, I've been leaving the touristy planning up to her, so I'm not sure what she has planned... On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:34 AM, chris fedde wrote: > I'm still in town tomorrow and am not _planning_ to do anything > perlish. > > Anyone interested in doing the tourist thing? -- Packy Anderson packy at dardan.com o/~ He's smooth and he's cool, and quick with a gun, a master in the boudoir. A guy in a trenchcoat who gets the job done... Guy Noir. o/~ A dark night in a city that knows how to keep its secrets, but on the 12th floor of the Acme Building, one man is still trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions.....Guy Noir, Private Eye. From larry at wall.org Wed Jun 18 08:43:00 2008 From: larry at wall.org (Larry Wall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:43:00 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <67f92c910806180833q5791f07fhcc93f9b43240e23d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> <67f92c910806180833q5791f07fhcc93f9b43240e23d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080618154300.GA10473@wall.org> I could do that--they have lettuce wraps for the wheat-challenged. Larry On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:33:42AM -0500, Kyle Hasselbacher wrote: : http://www.jimmyjohns.com/ for those unfamiliar. : : On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: : : > If you walk out to State St. (it's the divided street in between here : > and the student center) and turn right, there's a sandwich place : > called Jimmy John's down at 35th. I walked past it yesterday. (It's : > next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line : > station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. : _______________________________________________ : yapc mailing list : yapc at pm.org : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 18 08:45:14 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:45:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <200806181037.11678.andrewrodland@comcast.net> References: <200806181037.11678.andrewrodland@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080618154514.GJ26034@mawode.com> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:37:11AM -0500, Andrew Rodland wrote: > On Wednesday 18 June 2008 10:26:19 am Walt Mankowski wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:15:30AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:04:02AM -0500, Bruce Gray wrote: > > > : Is there anywhere within walking distance that would allow us to > > > : leave and return during the scheduled lunch time (12:05-13:00)? > > > > > > I'm not aware of any--we'd have to ask a native. > > > > If you walk out to State St. (it's the divided street in between here > > and the student center) and turn right, there's a sandwich place > > called Jimmy John's down at 35th. I walked past it yesterday. (It's > > next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line > > station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. > > > It's a chain and it's fast food, but it's pretty good considering. I'm not a native, and I've never eaten there. (Even though there seems to be a branch in downtown Philly.) I only suggested it because it's close, easy to find, and cheap. Of course, alternatively you could hit the bbq and designate a table in the back the "perlmonks table". From tyemq at cpan.org Wed Jun 18 09:03:26 2008 From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:03:26 -0700 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks of the world unite... for lunch, Wednesday In-Reply-To: <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> References: <20080618135228.GA3160@glaive.weftsoar.net> <26EA59C1-5BFC-44D6-ADD1-156B4B2AD9D9@acm.org> <20080618151530.GA9352@wall.org> <20080618152619.GI26034@mawode.com> Message-ID: We met and Larry can get lettuce wraps at the sandwich place so we are going to leave after the last talk (12:05) and do a quicker lunch there so nobody has to miss any of the talks. Thanks, Tye On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:15:30AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:04:02AM -0500, Bruce Gray wrote: > > : Is there anywhere within walking distance that would allow us to > > : leave and return during the scheduled lunch time (12:05-13:00)? > > > > I'm not aware of any--we'd have to ask a native. > > If you walk out to State St. (it's the divided street in between here > and the student center) and turn right, there's a sandwich place > called Jimmy John's down at 35th. I walked past it yesterday. (It's > next to the Starbucks, and across the street from the green line > station.) It's about a 10 minute walk from the conference center. > > Walt > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE639@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> References: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE639@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806180916s5e1fc20fpfc027e79c9d76cfc@mail.gmail.com> Stop by the registration table. We have a printer that you can use. On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Jason Gottshall wrote: > Is there a printer available somewhere? I'd like to print my boarding pass > before I head to the airport. > > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jgottshall at capwiz.com Wed Jun 18 09:15:26 2008 From: jgottshall at capwiz.com (Jason Gottshall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:15:26 -0400 Subject: [yapc] IRC daemon at the conference References: <20080618110003.GT27511@agaton.scsys.co.uk> Message-ID: <0676A75925636E4A857B0D04FDAB7DBA04ECE63B@CAEX.hq.capwiz.com> mst wrote: > I don't know if anybody's noticed, but hachi, Yaakov and I put up an ircd > on the network for people having trouble with bouncers etc. > > It's available on irc.yapcchicago.org:8080 and currently has no users. DNS does not resolve. Is there an IP I we can use? Jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Error: Connection refused Thanks, David From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 18 09:25:12 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:25:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rethinking CPAN Message-ID: <4C4A4B30-C38A-4037-AB4E-CD88F17EB518@petdance.com> I'm gonna go to lunch at 11:45 or so, over at the downstairs-ish cafeteria in the union building. If anyone is interested in the Rethinking CPAN project and wants to discuss, please join me. We'll be back by 13:00 for LTs, of course. Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From diakopter at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 09:30:41 2008 From: diakopter at gmail.com (Diakopter .) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:30:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] IRC Proxy Down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh; oops.. fixed. On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:23 AM, David E. Wheeler wrote: > Howdy, > > Is the IRC SOCKS proxy down? I'm not able to connect in xChat, but was > able to for the last few days: > > Looking up irc.perl.org > Looking up 209.9.237.164 > Connecting to 209.9.237.164 (209.9.237.164) port 1080... > Connection failed. Error: Connection refused > > Thanks, > > David > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 18 09:31:28 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:31:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] IRC Proxy Down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:30, Diakopter . wrote: > oh; oops.. fixed. Thanks, I'm in again! David From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 18 09:36:27 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:36:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] birthday greetings Message-ID: hi all yapc birthday kiddies, i want to wish a 'happy birthday' x 3 to jim brandt's triplets who are 2 today! his only wish is large donations of baby sitting time in buffalo! and special birthday wishes to myself who turned 51 today. yapc always is on either my birthday or anniversary (6/27). i have a great wife who knows how important this is to me and let's me out of the house. actually she throws me out! she sent an email to a friend this week and cc'ed me and commented on how nice and clean the house is!! so if you want to give me a birthday hug or whatever please do so. especially those of a certain gender! :) any other birthday kiddies out there? it is also paul mccartney's! uri, who is about as mature as the brandt triplets combined! -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From fluhmann at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 12:53:22 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:53:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Danger Will Robinson Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806181253v40730fabo1c9d219d75ac258f@mail.gmail.com> Raise you hand if you walked through the projects last night. /me raises hand What a crazy way to end my yapc trip. I ended up walking from the Adams/Wabash green line stop to about two blocks from the IIT campus last night around 3:00am. I can absolutely confirm the rumors that you DON'T want to venture too far north of campus. It may not have been the projects, but the random stranger that decided to walk with me said it was. I was thankful that he was walking with me, though. He seemed to be able to fend off the numerous other random strangers and groups that tried to get our attention. It was a very (VERY) uncomfortable feeling. Things are good now, though. I just left DFW and am about to grab a bite to eat before my 4 hour drive home. I think I really DO need an "I survived Chicago" shirt. :-) Jeremy, thankful I'm in one piece From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 18 13:03:11 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:03:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0806181253v40730fabo1c9d219d75ac258f@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806181253v40730fabo1c9d219d75ac258f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080618200311.GA15978@petdance.com> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:53:22PM -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann (fluhmann at gmail.com) wrote: > Raise you hand if you walked through the projects last night. Both times we've had YAPC here, I've said this, and both times been pooh-poohed. Thanks for your story. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From magog at the-wire.com Wed Jun 18 13:33:44 2008 From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:33:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free Beer Message-ID: <20080618153344.6119c0e1@Nokia-N810-51-3> There is an enormous amount of excellent microbrew beer left over from the Beer BOF. Also some Rum. If you're interested in drinking it or taking it home with you, please see me (Michael Graham aka magog) in the lounge next to the auditorium, after the last talk. I'll hook you up. Michael From mike at altrion.org Wed Jun 18 14:43:20 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:43:20 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rideshare wanted Message-ID: <9ED2D1EF-08E8-480F-89D0-677D0F9C5E86@altrion.org> If there's a chace of sharing a ride if anyone is going to O'Hare by car or (for that matter) cab anytime tomorrow morning, I'm interested (and obviously will share costs/gas/whatever). Need to be there for noon-ish, quite happy to get there much earlier as I have a boatload of writing to do :) -- Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org From fluhmann at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 14:43:39 2008 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:43:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <20080618200311.GA15978@petdance.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806181253v40730fabo1c9d219d75ac258f@mail.gmail.com> <20080618200311.GA15978@petdance.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0806181443h33685881x75847dc19549be8f@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. I'll post a more detailed version in my Use Perl journal when I get back. On 6/18/08, Andy Lester wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:53:22PM -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann > (fluhmann at gmail.com) wrote: >> Raise you hand if you walked through the projects last night. > > Both times we've had YAPC here, I've said this, and both times been > pooh-poohed. Thanks for your story. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > From will at coleda.com Wed Jun 18 14:56:57 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:56:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rideshare wanted In-Reply-To: <9ED2D1EF-08E8-480F-89D0-677D0F9C5E86@altrion.org> References: <9ED2D1EF-08E8-480F-89D0-677D0F9C5E86@altrion.org> Message-ID: <684172FA-68A4-4610-82A1-014556328CBA@coleda.com> -- Will "Coke" Coleda On Jun 18, 2008, at 16:43, Mike Whitaker wrote: > If there's a chace of sharing a ride if anyone is going to O'Hare by > car or (for that matter) cab anytime tomorrow morning, I'm interested > (and obviously will share costs/gas/whatever). Need to be there for > noon-ish, quite happy to get there much earlier as I have a boatload > of writing to do :) I am waiting there now, and was very happy to find a spare power outlet to charge everything up. Keep an eye on the traffic, we had quite a delay getting here today. > > -- > Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From mike at altrion.org Wed Jun 18 15:13:22 2008 From: mike at altrion.org (Mike Whitaker) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:13:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Rideshare wanted In-Reply-To: <684172FA-68A4-4610-82A1-014556328CBA@coleda.com> References: <9ED2D1EF-08E8-480F-89D0-677D0F9C5E86@altrion.org> <684172FA-68A4-4610-82A1-014556328CBA@coleda.com> Message-ID: <0A9B2C48-D968-46CC-BEA7-427CB403F6CD@altrion.org> On 18 Jun 2008, at 16:56, Will Coleda wrote: > Keep an eye on the traffic, we had quite a delay getting here today. One of the reasons I'm perfectly happy to leave here at 9am :) (I'd take the L, but I have a big suitcase.) -- Mike Whitaker | Perl developer, writer, guitarist, photographer mike at altrion.org | Board member, http://www.enlightenedperl.org/ Y!: tuxservers | Blog: http://perlent.blogspot.com/ IRC: Penfold | Yahoo! UK Ltd - internal CMS team From magog at the-wire.com Wed Jun 18 15:17:12 2008 From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:17:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free Beer In-Reply-To: <20080618153344.6119c0e1@Nokia-N810-51-3> References: <20080618153344.6119c0e1@Nokia-N810-51-3> Message-ID: <20080618171712.52843600@Nokia-N810-51-3> Okay, change of plans regarding the beer. The beer will be hidden under the piano in the common area in MSV. Help yourselves and please find this great beer a good home. Michael From shild at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 18 19:21:42 2008 From: shild at sbcglobal.net (Scott T. Hildreth) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:21:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Kudos Message-ID: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Thanks to Josh & Pete for organizing another great YAPC! Great Job Guys, STH From sean at seandmurray.com Wed Jun 18 20:05:33 2008 From: sean at seandmurray.com (sean) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:05:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Danger Will Robinson In-Reply-To: <20080618200311.GA15978@petdance.com> References: <7f7c2d5e0806181253v40730fabo1c9d219d75ac258f@mail.gmail.com> <20080618200311.GA15978@petdance.com> Message-ID: <200806182205.34158.sean@seandmurray.com> I've lived in chicago for 14 years and get around the city a fair bit and I'm an IIT alum.... I can asure you.. the area east of highway and north of campus till 18th street should not be considered lightly... smurray On Wednesday 18 June 2008 15:03:11 Andy Lester wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:53:22PM -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann (fluhmann at gmail.com) wrote: > > Raise you hand if you walked through the projects last night. > > Both times we've had YAPC here, I've said this, and both times been > pooh-poohed. Thanks for your story. From scott at slowass.net Wed Jun 18 19:28:08 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:28:08 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Kudos In-Reply-To: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> References: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20080619022808.GD26282@slowass.net> I wish I had the presence of mind to answer the "What would you do differently if you were organizing YAPC?" impromptu talk with "run it into the ground like I did Phoenix.PM!". It's a good thing I'm not running it =) -scott On 0, "Scott T. Hildreth" wrote: > > Thanks to Josh & Pete for organizing another great YAPC! > > > > Great Job Guys, > > STH > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From scott at slowass.net Wed Jun 18 19:44:11 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:44:11 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Kudos In-Reply-To: <20080619022808.GD26282@slowass.net> References: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <20080619022808.GD26282@slowass.net> Message-ID: <20080619024411.GE26282@slowass.net> Seriously though... we're having a discussion here (relayed by yours truly) that any self respecting T-shirt shop doesn't charge extra for shirts of different sizes. It's the screen that costs. So there's no good reason not to offer shirts in female-cut. -scott On 0, Scott Walters wrote: > I wish I had the presence of mind to answer the "What would > you do differently if you were organizing YAPC?" impromptu > talk with "run it into the ground like I did Phoenix.PM!". > It's a good thing I'm not running it =) > > -scott > > On 0, "Scott T. Hildreth" wrote: > > > > Thanks to Josh & Pete for organizing another great YAPC! > > > > > > > > Great Job Guys, > > > > STH > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From jay at jays.net Wed Jun 18 21:44:11 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:44:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Kudos In-Reply-To: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> References: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <8A64EE17-CD01-4CA1-927F-1319BE0D5523@jays.net> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:21 PM, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > Thanks to Josh & Pete for organizing another great YAPC! Here here! I had a great time @ my first YAPC. Thanks all! See you in Pittsburgh. :) j catching a 3am train to a 6am O'Hare flight :) http://jays.net/wiki/ChemChains_sandbox From dhvanika.gandhi at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 21:59:41 2008 From: dhvanika.gandhi at gmail.com (Dev) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:59:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Tourist Idea: Museum of Science and Industry (free) Message-ID: <7ba432f00806182159l3a4b5476o3366b706d27400bf@mail.gmail.com> I'm planning on going to the Museum of Science and Industry this weekend to see the toys there (maybe they still have interactive video games there). Celebrate the Museum of Science and Industry's 75th Anniversary for Free June 17-22! In celebration of the Museum's 75th Anniversary, the Museum is offering FREE general admission to all guests June 17-22. In addition, the Museum will host a weekend celebration of special events (June 19-22) that are free to the public, which include a grand cake-cutting ceremony, a performance by a "mad scientist" on June 19; an outdoor multimedia show with lasers, lights and fireworks on June 20; Radio Disney Party Patrol on June 21; and a movie on the Museum's front lawn on the night of June 22. From: http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/75th-celebration0/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They were on a bent paper clip. 3 normal house keys, and a forth special key with a green handle. I think the may have fell out of my pants pocket when Schwern threw my pants into the audience during the lightning talks. If you know anything about these keys, please contact me. I'll be staying in Chicago a few more days. Cheers, Ingy From david at kineticode.com Wed Jun 18 23:30:12 2008 From: david at kineticode.com (David E. Wheeler) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:30:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Kudos In-Reply-To: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> References: <1213842102.1088.52.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <843A201A-85D9-4AF8-BC02-B5C27AA2F2E3@kineticode.com> On Jun 18, 2008, at 21:21, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > Thanks to Josh & Pete for organizing another great YAPC! +1 Nice work guys, and thanks! Best, David From karen at hoofnagle.org Wed Jun 18 21:32:46 2008 From: karen at hoofnagle.org (Karen Hoofnagle) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:32:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Google maps for tomorrow's classes References: <001636283694da9e51044ffd6e6f@google.com> Message-ID: <67296D65-8A23-4C4C-BD50-34D483A711D3@hoofnagle.org> Someone did say this had already been sent to the list, but since *I* deleted it I'm thinking I might not be the only one. Classes tomorrow can be found on the google maps link below. Begin forwarded message: > From: noreply at google.com > Date: June 18, 2008 11:30:11 PM CDT > To: karen at hoofnagle.org > Subject: cfedde at cpan.org sent this to you using Google Maps: A > Google Maps link > Reply-To: cfedde at cpan.org > > Hi, I'd like to share a Google Maps link with you. > Link: > > > This email was sent to you by a user on Google Maps (maps.google.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <485A61F0.3090600@total.net> For those of us who waffled until the last minute; master class registration is listed as closing "on June 19th", which is today. Master classes start in 20 minutes, and I'm missing the following information: 1) Where the heck I can still register, and... 2) Where the heck the classes actually are (I noticed an email a few minutes ago about one of them, but I can't find info on the rest) Any 11th hour help appreciated, John From jeeason at scad.edu Thu Jun 19 07:03:31 2008 From: jeeason at scad.edu (Jane Eason) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:03:31 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Fwd: The Perl Review: YAPC Master Class information Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080619/fe42dc5e/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: events at theperlreview.com (The Perl Review Event Services) Subject: The Perl Review: YAPC Master Class information Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:31:39 -0400 Size: 4292 Url: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080619/fe42dc5e/attachment.mht From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 06:59:48 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:59:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Last minute master class registration? In-Reply-To: <485A61F0.3090600@total.net> References: <485A61F0.3090600@total.net> Message-ID: <49d805d70806190659w710e16fi31f4c44e3abea66a@mail.gmail.com> You can register at the door as far as I know, but I don't have the class locations in front of me. Try the first floor of Wishnick (-1 for spelling) hall. brian foy should be there. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:41 AM, John F. Zmrotchek wrote: > For those of us who waffled until the last minute; master class > registration is listed as closing "on June 19th", which is today. > Master classes start in 20 minutes, and I'm missing the following > information: > 1) Where the heck I can still register, and... > 2) Where the heck the classes actually are (I noticed an email a few > minutes ago about one of them, but I can't find info on the rest) > > Any 11th hour help appreciated, > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From cogurov at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 08:51:05 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Castro?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:51:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Where's the hackathon? Message-ID: <3CD15EE9-7CF9-417D-8BE7-884EA9D0EBCC@gmail.com> Where are you guys? Still in bed? I saw a group of 5 in MSV, but where's the rest of you people? jac -- Jos? Castro http://jose-castro.com From andrewdo at frdcsa.org Thu Jun 19 12:22:36 2008 From: andrewdo at frdcsa.org (Andrew Dougherty) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:22:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] broken video lightning talk Message-ID: <20080619.142236.266322194.andrewdo@frdcsa.org> The video segment of my lightning talk failed to play, here is the video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noAXhXFv5jo The mailinglist: http://frdcsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frdcsa Thanks, Andrew From scott at slowass.net Thu Jun 19 11:30:21 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:30:21 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Where's the hackathon? In-Reply-To: <3CD15EE9-7CF9-417D-8BE7-884EA9D0EBCC@gmail.com> References: <3CD15EE9-7CF9-417D-8BE7-884EA9D0EBCC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080619183021.GH26282@slowass.net> There's a lot more than five of us in MSV right now... and as far as we know, we are the hackathon. -scott On 0, Jos?? Castro wrote: > Where are you guys? > > Still in bed? > > I saw a group of 5 in MSV, but where's the rest of you people? > > jac > > -- > Jos?? Castro > http://jose-castro.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From cogurov at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 12:54:43 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:54:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! Message-ID: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Yes, there is a Hackathon going on! There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft drinks. We're at the dorms in MSV, yes; next to the giant television. If you don't have access to the dorms (as in, you're not staying in the dorms), here's what you do: - go to the reception and say you're coming for the YAPC Hackathon - the person there should have a paper with three phone numbers; pick one of them and phone that person; that person will than walk to the reception and escort you in - you'll have to leave some sort of id on the reception; you can pick it up on the way out If any of that doesn't work, just open your laptop on the outer side of the building and you should be able to access the wireless network. Use it to find us on IRC or send an email to the list asking for someone to go and get you. I assume more people will show up once the master classes end. Cheers, jac -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080619/1280f3cd/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 19 12:56:19 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:56:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <959CE5DA-A19C-4910-8A68-98BEE2C1F51D@petdance.com> On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft > drinks. Crazy jealous! -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From toddr at null.net Thu Jun 19 13:06:09 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:06:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <959CE5DA-A19C-4910-8A68-98BEE2C1F51D@petdance.com> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <959CE5DA-A19C-4910-8A68-98BEE2C1F51D@petdance.com> Message-ID: What happened to the beer? :) On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > >> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft >> drinks. > > > Crazy jealous! > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- Todd Rinaldo toddr at null.net From cogurov at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 13:11:04 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:11:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <959CE5DA-A19C-4910-8A68-98BEE2C1F51D@petdance.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806191311x49b2d7dbu5c4525d5af7995bb@mail.gmail.com> *cough, cough* On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > What happened to the beer? :) > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > > > >> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft > >> drinks. > > > > > > Crazy jealous! > > > > -- > > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > -- > Todd Rinaldo > toddr at null.net > -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080619/760c149c/attachment.html From andrewrodland at comcast.net Thu Jun 19 13:10:06 2008 From: andrewrodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:10:06 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200806191510.06642.andrewrodland@comcast.net> On Thursday 19 June 2008 02:54:43 pm Jos? Castro wrote: > Yes, there is a Hackathon going on! > > There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft drinks. > Soft drinks are people too. Andrew From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 19 13:16:19 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:16:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> =?iso-8859-1?q?=28Jos=E9?= Castro's message of "Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:54:43 -0500") References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: JC> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft drinks. it that the leftovers from the speaker party? uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From cogurov at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 13:17:18 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:17:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806191317y1f1c5dd3hb2a1ac8b992f3385@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: > > JC> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft > drinks. > > it that the leftovers from the speaker party? I think so, but there might be new things, as there were some cards with a lot of money on them O:-) > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com-- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support > ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html--------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com--------- > -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080619/ed73bafc/attachment-0001.html From scott at slowass.net Thu Jun 19 12:10:04 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:10:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <959CE5DA-A19C-4910-8A68-98BEE2C1F51D@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20080619191004.GI26282@slowass.net> The beer is here. It's hidden. Come to the hackathon and maybe we'll give you some >=) -scott On 0, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > What happened to the beer? :) > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > > > >> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft > >> drinks. > > > > > > Crazy jealous! > > > > -- > > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > -- > Todd Rinaldo > toddr at null.net > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From scott at slowass.net Thu Jun 19 12:11:18 2008 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:11:18 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> Yes. I wouldn't recommend the mayonase based foods any longer, and the meat is approaching it's useful lifetime. Or deadtime. -scott On 0, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: > > JC> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus soft drinks. > > it that the leftovers from the speaker party? > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ > --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 19 13:31:38 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:31:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> Message-ID: On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Scott Walters wrote: > Yes. I wouldn't recommend the mayonase based foods any longer, and > the meat is approaching it's useful lifetime. Or deadtime. Coward. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From hwigoda at mindspring.com Thu Jun 19 13:36:16 2008 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:36:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> Message-ID: <5BF42464-EADF-4C05-9D93-EDC43C2EBDA0@mindspring.com> sounds like the mayo is just getting good. On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Scott Walters wrote: > Yes. I wouldn't recommend the mayonase based foods any longer, and > the meat is approaching it's useful lifetime. Or deadtime. > > -scott > > On 0, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>>> "JC" == Jos? Castro writes: >> >> JC> There's 17 of us right now, plus food, plus junk food, plus >> soft drinks. >> >> it that the leftovers from the speaker party? >> >> uri >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com >> -- >> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, >> Support ------ >> --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html >> --------- >> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com >> --------- >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 19 13:38:22 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:38:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Here's the Hackathon! In-Reply-To: <5BF42464-EADF-4C05-9D93-EDC43C2EBDA0@mindspring.com> References: <4895a0700806191254m2606b08ch7e691e405f63e7a4@mail.gmail.com> <20080619191118.GJ26282@slowass.net> <5BF42464-EADF-4C05-9D93-EDC43C2EBDA0@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <38C61AE6-CEB9-48EF-95EB-5E8365E4488C@petdance.com> On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: > sounds like the mayo is just getting good. I think the word is "zesty". -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From mcmahon at yahoo-inc.com Thu Jun 19 14:52:42 2008 From: mcmahon at yahoo-inc.com (Joe McMahon) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:52:42 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Lost Keys In-Reply-To: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> References: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> Message-ID: On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: > I seem to have lost a set of keys. They were on a bent paper clip. 3 > normal house keys, and a forth special key with a green handle. > > I think the may have fell out of my pants pocket when Schwern threw my > pants into the audience during the lightning talks. When I miss a YAPC, I really miss one. --- Joe M. From ingy at ttul.org Thu Jun 19 15:14:40 2008 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:14:40 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Lost Keys In-Reply-To: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> References: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> Message-ID: <20080619221439.GA12993@ttul.org> I have the keys again. Heather McAdams (or one of her minions) found them in the auditorium!!! Yay, Ingy On 18/06/08 23:10 -0700, Ingy dot Net wrote: > I seem to have lost a set of keys. They were on a bent paper clip. 3 > normal house keys, and a forth special key with a green handle. > > I think the may have fell out of my pants pocket when Schwern threw my > pants into the audience during the lightning talks. > > If you know anything about these keys, please contact me. I'll be staying in > Chicago a few more days. > > Cheers, Ingy > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From zrusilla at mac.com Thu Jun 19 15:22:01 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:22:01 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Lost Keys In-Reply-To: <20080619221439.GA12993@ttul.org> References: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> <20080619221439.GA12993@ttul.org> Message-ID: <7751189F-011A-1000-95DD-2CF202D365CC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> On Thursday, June 19, 2008, at 03:15PM, "Ingy dot Net" wrote: >I have the keys again. Heather McAdams (or one of her minions) found them in the auditorium!!! Heather is rummaging around in other Perl hackers' pants?!?!? OMG teh SHAME!!11!! From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:39:07 2008 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:39:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lost Keys In-Reply-To: <485AA7CB0200004100045595@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <485AA7CA0200004100045592@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> <485AA7CB0200004100045595@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <485AA7CB0200004100045595@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> And that was just a Lightening Talk. Bill Morris -----Original Message----- From: Ingy dot Net To: Sent: 6/19/2008 6:14:40 PM Subject: Re: [yapc] Lost Keys I have the keys again. Heather McAdams (or one of her minions) found them in the auditorium!!! Yay, Ingy On 18/06/08 23:10 -0700, Ingy dot Net wrote: > I seem to have lost a set of keys. They were on a bent paper clip. 3 > normal house keys, and a forth special key with a green handle. > > I think the may have fell out of my pants pocket when Schwern threw my > pants into the audience during the lightning talks. > > If you know anything about these keys, please contact me. I'll be staying in > Chicago a few more days. > > Cheers, Ingy > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tom at yarrish.com Thu Jun 19 15:39:48 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:39:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Lost Keys In-Reply-To: <7751189F-011A-1000-95DD-2CF202D365CC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> References: <20080619061044.GB24266@ttul.org> <20080619221439.GA12993@ttul.org> <7751189F-011A-1000-95DD-2CF202D365CC-Webmail-10017@mac.com> Message-ID: <4DD4AD04-4A8E-4D10-A78E-6EB220DD454A@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 19, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > On Thursday, June 19, 2008, at 03:15PM, "Ingy dot Net" > wrote: >> I have the keys again. Heather McAdams (or one of her minions) >> found them in the auditorium!!! > > Heather is rummaging around in other Perl hackers' pants?!?!? OMG > teh SHAME!!11!! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc Maybe she was reading a book from that new O'Reilly Pulp Perl line of books.... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkha4DQACgkQZWzkfeDiTw5tYACeOKerBj56u4IiFYrjrGiyxXQT W+oAn3N1HMTw6K1Ax1HAKhsTYlulaO8p =bP62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 19 15:49:15 2008 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:49:15 -0400 Subject: [yapc] MSV Vending Machines References: <485AAA2B0200004100045598@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> <485AAA2B020000410004559B@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <485AAA2B020000410004559B@NCSTATEGW.fis.ncsu.edu> Do yuou think they'll service the vending machines before we leave??? Bill Morris From bruce.gray at acm.org Thu Jun 19 16:45:50 2008 From: bruce.gray at acm.org (Bruce Gray) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:45:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dinner plans for Hackathon / Master Class Message-ID: Most of us are going to Chinatown for dinner tonight. Anyone who wants to travel with us, come to the MSV doom piano/TV room (say you are with the hackathon to get past the front desk). We are leaving at 7:00 pm. For those who wish to meet us there, we expect to arrive at 7:15. Site: The Penang Chicago (Winner of Pan-Asian award), Thai/Malaysian food 2201 S Wentworth 312/326-6888 -- Hope this helps, Bruce Gray Util of PerlMonks From zrusilla at mac.com Thu Jun 19 17:54:11 2008 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:54:11 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Pulp Perl slides Message-ID: http://www.slideshare.net/zrusilla/pulp-perl/ From dha at panix.com Fri Jun 20 00:29:10 2008 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:29:10 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Ride to O'Hare Friday afternoon Message-ID: <20080620072910.GA7879@panix.com> ----- Forwarded message from Josh Rabinowitz ----- Subject: Offering 1 or 2 Rides to O'Hare, 4PM Friday Hello, All: Josh R has one or two spots available for a ride to O'Hare Airport tomorrow. He'll be leaving campus at 4PM promptly. Let him know if you'd like/need a ride. You can email him at joshr-yapc at joshr.com Josh ----- End forwarded message ----- -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Oh, the irony. - Abigail From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jun 20 05:20:10 2008 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:20:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Green Line takes coins! In-Reply-To: <20080620072910.GA7879@panix.com> References: <20080620072910.GA7879@panix.com> Message-ID: Just a further travel (to O'Hare and elsewhere) note the south entrance to the Green line has the usual machines for taking money etc. Folks were walking over to the Red line if they didn't have a paid card. So, while you can't quite get to Chinatown () you can get to O'Hare/Blue line etc by just walking half a block further. a ------------------- Andy Bach Systems Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Voice: (608) 261-5738 Fax: 264-5932 You know you've got a problem when you can't tell a hostile attack by another nation from bored kids with an axe to grind. --Bruce Schneier From cogurov at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 21:53:06 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Castro?=) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:53:06 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Checking out Message-ID: I'm checking out tomorrow. Can anyone tell me by what time I have to do this? I heard something about 9am, but that sounds a bit too harsh for someone who has a flight around 8pm... jac -- Jos? Castro http://jose-castro.com From hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net Fri Jun 20 22:27:43 2008 From: hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:27:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Checking out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080621052743.GA27709@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:53:06PM -0500, Jos? Castro wrote: > I'm checking out tomorrow. > > Can anyone tell me by what time I have to do this? > > I heard something about 9am, but that sounds a bit too harsh for > someone who has a flight around 8pm... it's 9am, but I've heard they don't take your ID card, so you can still come in and out of MSV during the day. hdp. From yapc at packy.org Sat Jun 21 04:47:22 2008 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:47:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Checking out In-Reply-To: <20080621052743.GA27709@glaive.weftsoar.net> References: <20080621052743.GA27709@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: <3AB9CEC1-0B73-4236-9868-5E6E415AFF52@packy.org> On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:53:06PM -0500, Jos? Castro wrote: >> I'm checking out tomorrow. >> >> Can anyone tell me by what time I have to do this? >> >> I heard something about 9am, but that sounds a bit too harsh for >> someone who has a flight around 8pm... > > it's 9am, but I've heard they don't take your ID card, so you can > still come in > and out of MSV during the day. I've inquired with IIT's conference services (in the room where we checked in on arrival), and even though my train doesn't leave until 10pm, the woman was very apologetic and insisted that 9am was still the checkout time. In addition, my fiancee just came back from an early morning walk, and she informed me that they've already disabled our ID cards and she had to do a fair amount of fast talking to convince the person at the front desk that she was, in fact, leaving today but needed to get back in the building because her bags were still in here. -packy -- Packy Anderson packy at dardan.com "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." -WWW creator Tim Berners- Lee From mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk Sat Jun 21 14:20:58 2008 From: mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk (Matt S Trout) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:20:58 +0100 Subject: [yapc] My slides Message-ID: <20080621212058.GL1446@agaton.scsys.co.uk> Catalyst tutorial: part1 - http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/-talks/yapc-na-2008/catalyst-concepts.xul examples tarball - http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/-talks/yapc-na-2008/catalyst-examples.tar.gz part2 - http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/-talks/yapc-na-2008/catalyst-tour.xul DBIx::MasterClass: http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/-talks/yapc-na-2008/dbix-masterclass.xul Reaction talk: http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/-talks/yapc-na-2008/reaction.xul -- Matt S Trout Need help with your Catalyst or DBIx::Class project? Technical Director http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Ltd. Want a managed development or deployment platform? http://chainsawblues.vox.com/ http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/servers/ From mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk Sun Jun 22 09:34:12 2008 From: mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk (Matt S Trout) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:34:12 +0100 Subject: [yapc] My slides In-Reply-To: <20080621212058.GL1446@agaton.scsys.co.uk> References: <20080621212058.GL1446@agaton.scsys.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080622163412.GB32475@agaton.scsys.co.uk> As a note, I'd really love feedback on the presentations; if you're not sure what to say, try doing the "one thing I liked the most, one thing I hated the most" breakdown. If you want to send it off-list so you can be insulting about the parts I screwed up and not admit to it later, feel free - though I guess if you were there you can probably guess I've got fairly thick skin about these things :) -- Matt S Trout Need help with your Catalyst or DBIx::Class project? Technical Director http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Ltd. Want a managed development or deployment platform? http://chainsawblues.vox.com/ http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/servers/ From twists at gmail.com Sun Jun 22 11:23:30 2008 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:23:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Found Nokia powerblock Message-ID: Someone at a hackathon lost a Nokia powerblock. I have it. Contact me to get it back. Josh From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Jun 22 11:27:04 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:27:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Ice Chest Message-ID: <49d805d70806221127s225adf2cmc79129248d39c5da@mail.gmail.com> Anyone know what happened to the ice chest that was at the hack-a-thon? From will at coleda.com Sun Jun 22 11:29:48 2008 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:29:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Ice Chest In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806221127s225adf2cmc79129248d39c5da@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70806221127s225adf2cmc79129248d39c5da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The last place I saw it was in the south door first floor lounge, wednesday morning before checkout. (Thanks for keeping it stocked!) On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Anyone know what happened to the ice chest that was at the hack-a-thon? > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Wed Jun 25 12:27:07 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:27:07 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> An intern here was hanging out in #yapc when ingy "did his thing" and my boss was saying in our company chat room "We're not sending danE to any more erot!c conferences! ;-)" I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative...yes...informative, that's the ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) //does that make me gay? //no, driving a purple mini does, dan //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) Regards, Dan Ellenbaum Software Engineer Weather Insight, L.P. www.WeatherInsight.com 713-361-4965 Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080625/59ebb783/attachment.html From cogurov at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 12:35:14 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:35:14 +0100 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> So I'm back in Portugal, got lots of sleep, miss you all a lot, and mistakenly threw my WebGui mascot into the washing machine with all the laundry. JT, the octopus is fine. It survived amazingly well. Good material you got there :-) Anyway, I saw this email and I'd like to second it: I'd also love to see the video of the lightning talks :-) Cheers, :-) jac On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan < Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com> wrote: > An intern here was hanging out in #yapc when ingy "did his thing" and my > boss was saying in our company chat room "We're not sending danE to any more > erot!c conferences! ;-)" > > > > I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were > just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative?yes?informative, that's the > ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) > > > > //does that make me gay? > > //no, driving a purple mini does, dan > > //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan Ellenbaum > > Software Engineer > Weather Insight, L.P. > www.WeatherInsight.com > 713-361-4965 > Weather Insight - *Weather for Financial Markets* > > > > *This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of > the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have > received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a > violation of federal criminal law.* > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Having not attended YAPC this year, I also would like to throw my vote in for the videos (Since its my fault that our company knows that Dan was watching what appeared from the IRC traffic to be a strip show) :-) Thanks, Matthew Kosmoski ARG Services, Inc. 713-430-7087 This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any portion of its contents. From: yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Jos? Castro Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:35 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask,where's the video of the lightning talks? So I'm back in Portugal, got lots of sleep, miss you all a lot, and mistakenly threw my WebGui mascot into the washing machine with all the laundry. JT, the octopus is fine. It survived amazingly well. Good material you got there :-) Anyway, I saw this email and I'd like to second it: I'd also love to see the video of the lightning talks :-) Cheers, :-) jac On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: ? I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative...yes...informative, that's the ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) ? //does that make me gay? //no, driving a purple mini does, dan //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) ? Regards, ? Dan Ellenbaum Software Engineer Weather Insight, L.P. www.WeatherInsight.com 713-361-4965 Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets ? This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients.? Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error.? Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Jos? Castro From jason at froebe.net Wed Jun 25 12:48:13 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? Message-ID: <739421.40889.qm@web805.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hope it goes up on the internet archive (http://www.archive.org) for historical reasons :) Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jos? Castro To: yapc at pm.org Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:35:14 PM Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? So I'm back in Portugal, got lots of sleep, miss you all a lot, and mistakenly threw my WebGui mascot into the washing machine with all the laundry. JT, the octopus is fine. It survived amazingly well. Good material you got there :-) Anyway, I saw this email and I'd like to second it: I'd also love to see the video of the lightning talks :-) Cheers, :-) jac On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: An intern here was hanging out in #yapc when ingy "did his thing" and my boss was saying in our company chat room "We're not sending danE to any more erot!c conferences! ;-)" I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative yes informative, that's the ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) //does that make me gay? //no, driving a purple mini does, dan //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) Regards, Dan Ellenbaum Software Engineer Weather Insight, L.P. www.WeatherInsight.com 713-361-4965 Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Kosmoski, Matthew < Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com> wrote: > Having not attended YAPC this year, I also would like to throw my vote in > for the videos (Since its my fault that our company knows that Dan was > watching what appeared from the IRC traffic to be a strip show) :-) You say "appeared" as if it wasn't O:-) Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually speaking... What was he saying? -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080625/0fc084cf/attachment.html From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 25 12:44:01 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:44:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806251244w6cdcb8abqe6cf9116dde05e47@mail.gmail.com> The talks are all on a hard drive at my house. According to Google maps, I'm 792 miles from my house now and unfortunately won't be back until Friday night. I'll try to put the [semi-]raw footage out over the weekend and post about it on the main yapc::na page. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > So I'm back in Portugal, got lots of sleep, miss you all a lot, and > mistakenly threw my WebGui mascot into the washing machine with all the > laundry. > > JT, the octopus is fine. It survived amazingly well. Good material you got > there :-) > > Anyway, I saw this email and I'd like to second it: I'd also love to see the > video of the lightning talks :-) > > Cheers, :-) > > jac > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan > wrote: >> >> An intern here was hanging out in #yapc when ingy "did his thing" and my >> boss was saying in our company chat room "We're not sending danE to any more >> erot!c conferences! ;-)" >> >> >> >> I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were >> just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative?yes?informative, that's the >> ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) >> >> >> >> //does that make me gay? >> >> //no, driving a purple mini does, dan >> >> //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Dan Ellenbaum >> >> Software Engineer >> Weather Insight, L.P. >> www.WeatherInsight.com >> 713-361-4965 >> Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets >> >> >> >> This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of >> the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have >> received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a >> violation of federal criminal law. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > -- > Jos? Castro > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 25 12:52:03 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:52:03 -0400 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually > speaking... What was he saying? Something about things even he would never do with Perl... From tom at yarrish.com Wed Jun 25 13:08:34 2008 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:08:34 -0500 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 25, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: >> Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually >> speaking... What was he saying? > > Something about things even he would never do with Perl... > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc Wait I don't think anyone ever said Ingy wasn't stripping...... Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkhipcIACgkQZWzkfeDiTw4g/ACdEBJnx8XvrlsU/+S/oZMk6MLs Vf0An3CF0DuAwSpuk/5fuT2/ib8k2lhf =RcXv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Wed Jun 25 13:09:41 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:09:41 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806251244w6cdcb8abqe6cf9116dde05e47@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5 b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70806251244w6cdcb8abqe6cf9116dde05e47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C9F@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Josh said: >The talks are all on a hard drive at my house. According to Google >maps, I'm 792 miles from my house now and unfortunately won't be back >until Friday night. I'll try to put the [semi-]raw footage out over >the weekend and post about it on the main yapc::na page. Heh...you said "raw" //is going home to sleep, stay off of I-10 in Houston if you value your life, avoid the purple mini! ;-) From Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com Wed Jun 25 13:12:11 2008 From: Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com (Kosmoski, Matthew) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:12:11 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> On Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > You say "appeared" as if it wasn't O:-) > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually speaking... What was he saying? I have no clue. I just saw on IRC something along the lines of... "there go his pants!" and then mentions of his pants ending up in the audience... I am extremely curious (and yet scared) to see this video footage :-) Thanks, Matthew Kosmoski ARG Services, Inc. 713-430-7087 This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any portion of its contents. From mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk Wed Jun 25 13:22:13 2008 From: mst at shadowcatsystems.co.uk (Matt S Trout) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:22:13 +0100 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <20080625202213.GI12147@agaton.scsys.co.uk> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:12:11PM +0000, Kosmoski, Matthew wrote: > On Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: > > You say "appeared" as if it wasn't O:-) > > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually speaking... What was he saying? > > I have no clue. I just saw on IRC something along the lines of... "there go his pants!" and then mentions of his pants ending up in the audience... That part would be Schwern's fault. The best moment was when alester (I think?) looked across the stage at the wrong moment and got the full monty view. Not sure if that'll be caught on video though. I hear rumours ingy and lack of clothes isn't entirely without precendent though - another guy I discussed it with muttered something about "seeing ingy's modules", followed by a mention of therapy and drugs and then refused to continue the conversation. -- Matt S Trout Need help with your Catalyst or DBIx::Class project? Technical Director http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Ltd. Want a managed development or deployment platform? http://chainsawblues.vox.com/ http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/servers/ From cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu Wed Jun 25 13:25:06 2008 From: cdunigan at doit.wisc.edu (Craig Dunigan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:25:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Kosmoski, Matthew wrote: > On Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Jos? Castro wrote: >> You say "appeared" as if it wasn't O:-) Tell me this: if it wasn't >> a strip show, and if Ingy was actually speaking... What was he >> saying? > > I have no clue. I just saw on IRC something along the lines of... > "there go his pants!" and then mentions of his pants ending up in > the audience... I am extremely curious (and yet scared) to see this > video footage :-) > > > I also have no clue what Ingy was saying, and I was there. And yes, his pants did end up in the audience. But tell your management to have no fear - it was definitely *not* erotic. In fact, I think the folks on stage at the time may never recover from the trauma. -- Craig Dunigan IS Technical Services Specialist Middleware - EIS - DoIT University of Wisconsin, Madison opinions expressed are my own, not the University's From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 25 13:27:04 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:27:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <20080625202213.GI12147@agaton.scsys.co.uk> References: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <20080625202213.GI12147@agaton.scsys.co.uk> Message-ID: > I hear rumours ingy and lack of clothes isn't entirely without > precendent > though - another guy I discussed it with muttered something about > "seeing > ingy's modules", followed by a mention of therapy and drugs and then > refused to continue the conversation. Wasn't me, I was sitting back a few rows. "Ingy's modules" refers to a video from a few years ago where Ingy was on a toilet, pants around his ankles, and sayin' "MODules ... are the KEY to Perl". -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 25 14:05:40 2008 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:05:40 -0400 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <20080625202213.GI12147@agaton.scsys.co.uk> (Matt S. Trout's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:22:13 +0100") References: <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DD@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <20080625202213.GI12147@agaton.scsys.co.uk> Message-ID: >>>>> "MST" == Matt S Trout writes: MST> The best moment was when alester (I think?) looked across the MST> stage at the wrong moment and got the full monty view. Not sure MST> if that'll be caught on video though. that would be me. i am still washing out my eyes with lye and grit to get those images out of my retinas! MST> I hear rumours ingy and lack of clothes isn't entirely without precendent MST> though - another guy I discussed it with muttered something about "seeing MST> ingy's modules", followed by a mention of therapy and drugs and then MST> refused to continue the conversation. ingy and his clothing are easily parted. :( uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------ --------- Free Perl Training --- http://perlhunter.com/college.html --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- From toddr at null.net Wed Jun 25 15:37:02 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:37:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: A quick search turns up one of the videos from the end of the lightning talk, "Recognizing Jim Brandt or brian d foy" http://www.vimeo.com/1195961 On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Ellenbaum, Dan wrote: > An intern here was hanging out in #yapc when ingy "did his thing" and my > boss was saying in our company chat room "We're not sending danE to any more > erot!c conferences! ;-)" > > > > I've got to show them what was up with all those talks. Also, several were > just plain hilarious. Oh, and informative?yes?informative, that's the > ticket! Yes, boss, send me to Pittsburgh next year! ;-) > > > > //does that make me gay? > > //no, driving a purple mini does, dan > > //has been up since 4 AM for mysql errors, YAY! (it's 2:30 PM CT) > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan Ellenbaum > > Software Engineer > Weather Insight, L.P. > www.WeatherInsight.com > 713-361-4965 > Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets > > > > This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of > the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have > received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a > violation of federal criminal law. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From pmichaud at pobox.com Wed Jun 25 15:49:56 2008 From: pmichaud at pobox.com (Patrick R. Michaud) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:49:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> Message-ID: <20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:52:03PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually > > speaking... What was he saying? > > Something about things even he would never do with Perl... My interpretation was that Ingy will do absolutely _anything_ with Perl, including strip on stage at a YAPC. You simply have to be always ready to avert your eyes when it's possible you may be exposed to _any_ of Ingy's... uhm... modules. :-) Pm From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 26 06:44:47 2008 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:44:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lightning talk on deploying multiple versions of modules Message-ID: Hi I'd like to get in touch with the person who gave the lightning talk about deploying multiple versions of modules. I can't find a listing of the speakers. Any one know who it was, and what their email address is? Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net Thu Jun 26 06:59:42 2008 From: hdp.perl.yapc at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:59:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lightning talk on deploying multiple versions of modules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080626135942.GA18573@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 09:44:47AM -0400, Todd Olson wrote: > I'd like to get in touch with the person who gave the lightning talk > about deploying multiple versions of modules. I can't find a listing > of the speakers. Any one know who it was, and what their email address is? It was Hildo Biersma. http://search.cpan.org/~hbiersma/ hdp. From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 08:31:13 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:31:13 -0400 Subject: [yapc] pictures of the socials Message-ID: <29d269c70806300831j60f78af2oa4725686cd0a8e0f@mail.gmail.com> It took a few pictures while I was at the conference. Is there a central repository to share them? Or is there a collection of URLs in the wiki or something that points to all the pictures and stuff? Darcy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080630/dc2d0d7f/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Mon Jun 30 08:34:08 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:34:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] pictures of the socials In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806300831j60f78af2oa4725686cd0a8e0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806300831j60f78af2oa4725686cd0a8e0f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Darcy Whyte wrote: > It took a few pictures while I was at the conference. > > Is there a central repository to share them? > > Or is there a collection of URLs in the wiki or something that > points to all the pictures and stuff? See http://perlbuzz.com/2008/06/yapcna-2008-photo-wrapup.html and http://perlbuzz.com/2008/06/yapcna-2008-blog-post-wrapup-the-diy-version.html which point you to http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?yapc_na_2008 xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From darcy.whyte at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 08:39:02 2008 From: darcy.whyte at gmail.com (Darcy Whyte) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:39:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pittsburgh perl stuff Message-ID: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> Ok, so the YAPC is in Pittsburgh next year. Wasn't there a mention of some other workshop or something? Or has it passed? Just curious because I'm tooting down to Miami from Ottawa and I could plan to attend any Perl or PHP conferences on the way down there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20080630/87751aaa/attachment.html From adam.prime at utoronto.ca Mon Jun 30 08:45:47 2008 From: adam.prime at utoronto.ca (Adam Prime) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:45:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pittsburgh perl stuff In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4868FFAB.8060106@utoronto.ca> Darcy Whyte wrote: > > Ok, so the YAPC is in Pittsburgh next year. > > Wasn't there a mention of some other workshop or something? Or has it > passed? > > Just curious because I'm tooting down to Miami from Ottawa and I could > plan to attend any Perl or PHP conferences on the way down there. > I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but there is the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop coming later this year. http://pghpw.org/ 10:48:04 * Now talking in #ppw 10:48:04 * Topic is 'PPW 08: Oct 10th - 12th; Podcasts coming "any day now"' adam From andy at petdance.com Mon Jun 30 08:42:53 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:42:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Pittsburgh perl stuff In-Reply-To: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Darcy Whyte wrote: > > Ok, so the YAPC is in Pittsburgh next year. > > Wasn't there a mention of some other workshop or something? Or has > it passed? Pittsburgh Perl Workshop http://pghpw.org/ xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From waltman at pobox.com Mon Jun 30 09:00:58 2008 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:00:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pittsburgh perl stuff In-Reply-To: <4868FFAB.8060106@utoronto.ca> References: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> <4868FFAB.8060106@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <20080630160058.GB7070@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:45:47AM -0400, Adam Prime wrote: > 10:48:04 * Topic is 'PPW 08: Oct 10th - 12th; Podcasts coming "any day > now"' Note that those are probably the podcasts for *last* year's PPW. :) From dave.s.doyle at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 09:14:51 2008 From: dave.s.doyle at gmail.com (Dave Doyle) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:14:51 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Pittsburgh perl stuff In-Reply-To: <4868FFAB.8060106@utoronto.ca> References: <29d269c70806300839w216bba94yfa1c87f5b695d9b2@mail.gmail.com> <4868FFAB.8060106@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Aw crap. I wanted to go this year but that's Thanksgiving weekend! (for Canucks) > I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but there is the Pittsburgh Perl > Workshop coming later this year. > > http://pghpw.org/ > > 10:48:04 * Now talking in #ppw > 10:48:04 * Topic is 'PPW 08: Oct 10th - 12th; Podcasts coming "any day > now"' > > adam From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 14:37:34 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:37:34 -0500 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> <20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> Okay, I've got the ingy lightning talk done: http://perlcast.com/video/yapcna2008/extemporaneous_lightning_talk_ingy.mov On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:52:03PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: >> > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually >> > speaking... What was he saying? >> >> Something about things even he would never do with Perl... > > My interpretation was that Ingy will do absolutely _anything_ > with Perl, including strip on stage at a YAPC. You simply > have to be always ready to avert your eyes when it's possible > you may be exposed to _any_ of Ingy's... uhm... modules. :-) > > Pm > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com Mon Jun 30 14:47:09 2008 From: Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com (Kosmoski, Matthew) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:47:09 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com><20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com><20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> I am so sad I had to miss that... If only his pants had been lost to the crowd I wonder what he may have done. Thanks, Matthew Kosmoski ARG Services, Inc. 713-430-7087 This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any portion of its contents. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua McAdams Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:38 PM To: Patrick R. Michaud Cc: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask,where's the video of the lightning talks? Okay, I've got the ingy lightning talk done: http://perlcast.com/video/yapcna2008/extemporaneous_lightning_talk_ingy.mov On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:52:03PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: >> > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually >> > speaking... What was he saying? >> >> Something about things even he would never do with Perl... > > My interpretation was that Ingy will do absolutely _anything_ > with Perl, including strip on stage at a YAPC. You simply > have to be always ready to avert your eyes when it's possible > you may be exposed to _any_ of Ingy's... uhm... modules. :-) > > Pm > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From cogurov at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 14:50:29 2008 From: cogurov at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Castro?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:50:29 +0100 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> <20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4895a0700806301450l369d0a1fnfa92b2a34205c3b5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Kosmoski, Matthew < Matthew.Kosmoski at argis.com> wrote: > I am so sad I had to miss that... If only his pants had been lost to the > crowd I wonder what he may have done. > Oh, please... Don't even joke about it... I think I know exactly what he may have done... :-) In any case, he did lose his keys, which apparently fell off his pants during the pants-flight :-) jac > Thanks, > > Matthew Kosmoski > ARG Services, Inc. > 713-430-7087 > > This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is > intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain > privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended > recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, > dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify > ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original > and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing > in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any > portion of its contents. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org [mailto: > yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski =argis.com@ > pm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua McAdams > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:38 PM > To: Patrick R. Michaud > Cc: yapc at pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask,where's the video of the lightning > talks? > > Okay, I've got the ingy lightning talk done: > http://perlcast.com/video/yapcna2008/extemporaneous_lightning_talk_ingy.mov > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Patrick R. Michaud > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:52:03PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: > >> > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually > >> > speaking... What was he saying? > >> > >> Something about things even he would never do with Perl... > > > > My interpretation was that Ingy will do absolutely _anything_ > > with Perl, including strip on stage at a YAPC. You simply > > have to be always ready to avert your eyes when it's possible > > you may be exposed to _any_ of Ingy's... uhm... modules. :-) > > > > Pm > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Jos? Castro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4895a0700806301450l369d0a1fnfa92b2a34205c3b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com><20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com><20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com><49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806301450l369d0a1fnfa92b2a34205c3b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Yes, but lost keys don't lead to an awkward man standing behind a curtain wondering what to do next! Lost pants on the other hand... that may have been more epic. Thanks, Matthew Kosmoski ARG Services, Inc. 713-430-7087 This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any portion of its contents. From: yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Jos? Castro Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:50 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask,where's the video of the lightning talks? On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Kosmoski, Matthew wrote: I am so sad I had to miss that... If only his pants had been lost to the crowd I wonder what he may have done. Oh, please... Don't even joke about it... I think I know exactly what he may have done... :-) In any case, he did lose his keys, which apparently fell off his pants during the pants-flight :-) jac ? ? Thanks, Matthew Kosmoski ARG Services, Inc. 713-430-7087 This email message (including for all purposes any attachments hereto) is intended only for the use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipients of this email message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify ARG Services, Inc. at (713) 430-7087, and permanently delete the original and any copy of this email message and destroy any printout hereof. Nothing in this email message is intended to waive the confidentiality of any portion of its contents. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+matthew.kosmoski=argis.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua McAdams Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:38 PM To: Patrick R. Michaud Cc: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask,where's the video of the lightning talks? Okay, I've got the ingy lightning talk done: http://perlcast.com/video/yapcna2008/extemporaneous_lightning_talk_ingy.mov On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 03:52:03PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 08:49:08PM +0100, Jos? Castro wrote: >> > Tell me this: if it wasn't a strip show, and if Ingy was actually >> > speaking... What was he saying? >> >> Something about things even he would never do with Perl... > > My interpretation was that Ingy will do absolutely _anything_ > with Perl, including strip on stage at a YAPC. ?You simply > have to be always ready to avert your eyes when it's possible > you may be exposed to _any_ of Ingy's... uhm... modules. ?:-) > > Pm > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Jos? Castro From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 30 14:58:38 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:58:38 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5 b38de9399@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251249o5 38d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com><20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com><20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com><49d805d708 06301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0CD0@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Matt Kosmoski wrote: >I am so sad I had to miss that... If only his pants had been lost to the crowd I wonder >what he may have done. Matt! So, after all my work networking up at YAPC, our company, Weather Insight, is now going to be known as "those guys who asked for Ingy's strip video?" ;-) -DanE Lead web developer Programming intern program founder / manager (MattK is the first intern to join!) Regards, Dan Ellenbaum Software Engineer Weather Insight, L.P. www.WeatherInsight.com 713-361-4965 Weather Insight - Weather for Financial Markets This e-mail is strictly confidential, privileged, and only for the use of the intended recipients. Please notify sender immediately if you have received this in error. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. From Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com Mon Jun 30 15:00:08 2008 From: Dan.Ellenbaum at weatherinsight.com (Ellenbaum, Dan) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:00:08 +0000 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5 b38de9399@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com><4895a0700806251249o5 38d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com><20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com><20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com><49d805d708 06301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com><4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C4@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide. com><4895a0700806301450l369d0a1fnfa92b2a34205c3b5@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031104C6@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> Message-ID: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0CD1@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> >Yes, but lost keys don't lead to an awkward man standing behind a curtain wondering what to >do next! Lost pants on the other hand... that may have been more epic. Actually, he seemed surprisingly comfortable, I think the problems in that case would have lain (no pun intended) on the people in the first few rows, where I was sitting! Oh, and someone did find his keys for him, so there was a happy ending...at least for Ingy! //washes out eyes with lye ;-) DanE From jkeen at verizon.net Mon Jun 30 16:06:04 2008 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:06:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] OK...i gotta ask, where's the video of the lightning talks? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> References: <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E01DD0C99@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251235x4657764cnfc016c5b38de9399@mail.gmail.com> <4141398211C94E4D8A19B99270FA373E031102DA@EXCHVS.arghou.argcorp.argworldwide.com> <4895a0700806251249o538d5ee8me97534f6614df606@mail.gmail.com> <20080625195203.GG25778@mawode.com> <20080625224956.GB9560@host.pmichaud.com> <49d805d70806301437i4e7e3145xc32027fb8e550659@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18E05FAB-74C7-41AF-AA60-5700945B2A07@verizon.net> On Jun 30, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Okay, I've got the ingy lightning talk done: > http://perlcast.com/video/yapcna2008/ > extemporaneous_lightning_talk_ingy.mov On 2nd viewing, the most interesting thing is how completely coherent the *verbal* content of the talk is ... much better than I could have done on 90 seconds notice. But perhaps he could have elaborated more on the living-with-Schwern point ... jimk