From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 6 21:44:30 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:44:30 -0400 Subject: [yapc] kickee the wiki Message-ID: hi to all yapc::NA homo saps! this should go out to all the currently registered attendees (you are subscribed when you register) and any other subscribers left over from previous years. if you didn't get this and you are attending yapc, tell us to fix the list! it is less than 3 weeks away from yapc::chicago and i will finally get off my duff and perform some of the duties of yapc socialist czar. this is the start of the deadline rush to register and we are building up the psychic energy to a point where it peaks during the auction! :) so here are some wimpy wiki tasks for all of you to do. add yourself to the attendees list and create your yapc home page: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ConferenceAttendees there are about 250 registrants now (i bet the final count will be 350-400) and only about 80 are on that page. we must have a higher percentage number or else! if you want to hook up with other yapc'ers, share your info on these pages: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?RideBoard http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?WhoIsStayingWhere http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalTimes http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?DepartureTimes no stalking will be allowed. as is our tradition, we are organizing a arrival dinner on sunday night. as as before you are requested to help choose the venue so vote on this page (edit it and add your name under the place you want): http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner and the highlight of the week (well, sometimes) is the conference dinner and fundraising auction. this page is under construction but look for it to be up in a day or so. i will announce more when it is ready. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?DinnerAuction i have done some editing of the wiki pages and will be doing more in the very near future. add your own stuff too. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 6 23:20:19 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:20:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] async BOF Message-ID: i have added a BOF which will be on async apps in perl. you can read more about it and add your name at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AsyncBOF there are several other bofs on that page. make sure you register for the pythonBOF! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From tim at consultix-inc.com Fri Jun 9 13:36:04 2006 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:36:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] kickee the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:44:30AM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > Hi Uri, > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner I can't tell from the Wiki or the website whether this would be the Wrigleyville or Clybourn location, and I don't know Chicago well enough to hazard a guess. I'll be staying downtown, not near the II of T, so depending on the proposed meeting time and event location, I may/may-not be able to make it. Please clarify! *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | UPCOMING CLASSES: 6/12-16 Shell & Utilities 7/18 Intermed. Perl | | Watch for my upcoming book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See MinimalPerl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 9 13:40:23 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:40:23 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> (Tim Maher's message of "Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:36:04 -0700") References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "TM" == Tim Maher writes: TM> On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:44:30AM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: >> TM> Hi Uri, >> http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner TM> I can't tell from the Wiki or the website whether this would be TM> the Wrigleyville or Clybourn location, and I don't know Chicago TM> well enough to hazard a guess. I'll be staying downtown, not near TM> the II of T, so depending on the proposed meeting time and event TM> location, I may/may-not be able to make it. Please clarify! josh said the clybourn location which is on the island in the river. i am in the process of booking the room. this of course means the voting is over as we do have to book things and the choice is obvious. i will email and wiki more when i get it. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 9 13:56:20 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:56:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> > josh said the clybourn location which is on the island in the river. i > am in the process of booking the room. this of course means the voting > is over as we do have to book things and the choice is obvious. i will > email and wiki more when i get it. I think that I was wrong on the location though... looking at the map, neither location is on the river.... oh well, I'd say whichever one has a spot for us. From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 9 14:03:57 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:03:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> FWIW, I was assuming the Clybourn location - since that's the one that's at least closest (if not on) goose island, that's where it got its name from. Plus, it's closer to IIT for people staying there, and closer to the loop for people NOT staying at IIT (if someone has to come in from outside downtown, the Clybourn location will be easier to get to). And if anyone's driving there (more than likely like myself), parking is a bit easier at Clybourn than Wrigleyville ;) -Kent On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > josh said the clybourn location which is on the island in the river. i > > am in the process of booking the room. this of course means the voting > > is over as we do have to book things and the choice is obvious. i will > > email and wiki more when i get it. > > I think that I was wrong on the location though... looking at the map, > neither location is on the river.... oh well, I'd say whichever one has > a spot for us. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 9 14:25:09 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:25:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> (Kent Cowgill's message of "Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:03:57 -0500 (CDT)") References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "KC" == Kent Cowgill writes: KC> FWIW, I was assuming the Clybourn location - since that's the one that's KC> at least closest (if not on) goose island, that's where it got its name KC> from. KC> Plus, it's closer to IIT for people staying there, and closer to the loop KC> for people NOT staying at IIT (if someone has to come in from outside KC> downtown, the Clybourn location will be easier to get to). KC> And if anyone's driving there (more than likely like myself), parking is a KC> bit easier at Clybourn than Wrigleyville ;) a bigger issue is available rooms and sizes. clybourn can only hold about 50 in a sitdown/buffer room but multiple rooms are possible. wrigleyville can hold over 100 in the same setup. i will post more about that next week when we book the room. also we will need to vote on the menu choices too. more when i wiki up that info. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 9 14:34:29 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:34:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <2FC0822A-9510-4AB3-8AE4-11FCC2B549EE@petdance.com> On Jun 9, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > a bigger issue is available rooms and sizes. clybourn can only hold > about 50 in a sitdown/buffer room but multiple rooms are > possible. wrigleyville can hold over 100 in the same setup. I believe that Pete & Josh already nailed all this down. Signed up for the room and everything. I'd check with them before I did anything. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 9 16:19:15 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:19:15 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: <2FC0822A-9510-4AB3-8AE4-11FCC2B549EE@petdance.com> References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> <2FC0822A-9510-4AB3-8AE4-11FCC2B549EE@petdance.com> Message-ID: <203AEA2B-8FF3-4FEF-8B83-9F2D21E92337@yapcchicago.org> > > I believe that Pete & Josh already nailed all this down. Signed up > for the room and everything. We have the Tuesday evening dinner planned. Sunday is still up in the air. From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 9 20:45:04 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:45:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner location In-Reply-To: <2FC0822A-9510-4AB3-8AE4-11FCC2B549EE@petdance.com> (Andy Lester's message of "Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:34:29 -0500") References: <20060609203604.GA30298@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <4489E074.3000306@yapcchicago.org> <20060609155925.W98690@atbash.c2group.net> <2FC0822A-9510-4AB3-8AE4-11FCC2B549EE@petdance.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "AL" == Andy Lester writes: AL> On Jun 9, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >> a bigger issue is available rooms and sizes. clybourn can only hold >> about 50 in a sitdown/buffer room but multiple rooms are >> possible. wrigleyville can hold over 100 in the same setup. AL> I believe that Pete & Josh already nailed all this down. Signed up AL> for the room and everything. AL> I'd check with them before I did anything. good thing that i do communicate with josh. :) and nothing was nailed down anywhere which is why i am working on this. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 10 23:32:43 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:32:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner news Message-ID: the votes are in and goose island is the winner. it is a brew pub with some decent looking food. i am working on booking a room at the wrigleyville location as that has rooms large enough for 100+ perl hackers. i should have it locked on monday (more when that happens). we now need to vote on the menu and veggies will need to choose additional platters since the buffet entrees are carniverously oriented. go to this wiki page and vote as indicated: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner this is open to everyone (since you pay your own way!) but we do need an accurate head count so add yourself (and friends) to the list. and BRING CASH!! credit cards are a pain for us and them. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 11 00:20:46 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:20:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA Synopsis Hackathon Message-ID: I have proposed a synopsis edit hackathon subproject at YAPC::NA. read my ideas at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SynopsisEdit feel free to edit and add your own comments. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 12 13:21:01 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:21:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] sign up for the arrival dinner Message-ID: hi all, please sign up for the arrival dinner if you are going to it. we need a proper head count 3 days before the event. that is june 22 which is only 10 days away. some of the menu choices have more votes than the signup section! we also need a minimum of 80 heads for this and i don't expect that to be a problem given the over 100 who ate chinese in toronto last year. but as always, people are not signing up soon enough to assuage our fears! :) so go to this wiki page and add your name and counts to the list. and add into the total at the end. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 14 16:41:25 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:41:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting Message-ID: things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu vote. over 40 have signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't signed up. you know who you are so ADD your name to the list! in particular TPF and YAPC committee members and such (even josh macadams!) have not signed up. we know where you live! the voting deadline is midnight on sunday june 18. i have to call in the menu on monday and i will wiki up the winning menu after that. we have until thursday june 22 to submit a head count. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner and if you are a cheap bastard :) you can join the growing contigent at the anti arrival dinner. some thought i would be upset about it and actually i support it. this is an optional social event so do whatever you want. hell, all of yapc is optional so go for it. but considering that the expenses for yapc will be in the $100's for most attendees (adding in conference fees, travel, dorm, other food), $30 more isn't too much IMO :). http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AntiArrivalDinner you could even go to the same place as the arrival dinner and just get a table and order from the menu. have fun in either event! thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From joey at joeykelly.net Wed Jun 14 19:24:56 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:24:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200606142125.03322.joey@joeykelly.net> Uri spake: > > and if you are a cheap bastard :) you can join the growing contigent at > the anti arrival dinner. some thought i would be upset about it and > actually i support it. this is an optional social event so do whatever > you want. hell, all of yapc is optional so go for it. but considering > that the expenses for yapc will be in the $100's for most attendees > (adding in conference fees, travel, dorm, other food), $30 more isn't > too much IMO :). The money wasn't the issue, it's the "party-platter" approach that bugged me. I thought $30 for food I really didn't care to nibble on just wasn't what I wanted to do, relatively speaking. Thanks for not flaming me out of existence, by the way :-) > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AntiArrivalDinner > > you could even go to the same place as the arrival dinner and just get a > table and order from the menu. Now that's an excellent idea! Lemme go look at the whole menu, maybe the rebel group will agree to "crash" the real dinner. -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net How many spyware pop-ups did you get on your Windows computer today? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060614/2da66e52/attachment.bin From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 14 21:18:23 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:18:23 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: <200606142125.03322.joey@joeykelly.net> (Joey Kelly's message of "Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:24:56 -0500") References: <200606142125.03322.joey@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: >>>>> "JK" == Joey Kelly writes: JK> The money wasn't the issue, it's the "party-platter" approach that JK> bugged me. I thought $30 for food I really didn't care to nibble JK> on just wasn't what I wanted to do, relatively speaking. we could have done a sit down dinner but that would be more expensive. last year we did that at the chinese place in toronto and we ordered off the menu (and it was much cheaper). the downside was the tables that ordered first were done with their meals before other tables were even served. you just can't win with large dinner groups unless you pay for it somehow (speed, quality, price - pick one! :). ever heard of the rubber chicken circuit or eaten food at some low priced wedding? :) JK> Thanks for not flaming me out of existence, by the way :-) since you signed up for the async bof, i decided to wait until then to turn you into a lump of charcoal. :) >> you could even go to the same place as the arrival dinner and just get a >> table and order from the menu. JK> Now that's an excellent idea! Lemme go look at the whole menu, JK> maybe the rebel group will agree to "crash" the real dinner. we will be carding you at the door! actually the party planner mentioned something about wristbands so get your counterfeit skills sharpened! thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 14 22:57:18 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:57:18 -0400 Subject: [yapc] auction news Message-ID: the auction page is up and there are some new wrinkles and some very cool items up for bid. check it out at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?TPFAuction you can still donate items if you want. non-books are more interesting so think about stuff like gift certificates, services, electronics, food items, etc. and if you have any connections to computer book publishers let us know. we have books from the usual suspects like o'reilly, apress, and manning. josh hasn't been able to get sams or addison-wesley to call him back with book donations as in the past. so expect a raucous time as i will again be the auctioneer. no feelings or book authors will be spared! damian will be around to sign anything made from a dead tree. and remember, you can play video games all year long but there is only one YAPC::NA auction a year! :) see ya there! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 07:29:45 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:29:45 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards Message-ID: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> If you've been holding out on deciding on whether or not you are staying in the dorms at IIT, don't hold out any longer. We need to get our final room counts in to the University this week! After today, you'll have to look elsewhere to find accommodations. If you are staying off-campus, we encourage you to use the IIT discount at Club Quarters in Chicago. There are two Club Quarters locations in town. The one that we recommend is the Wacker and Michigan location. The hotel is a few blocks north of the Green 'L' line, which will take you to IIT. To book at Club Quarters, visit the hotel website and login with the password 'illinois institute of technology'. Alternately, you can call 212-575-0006 or in Europe 44 (0) 20-7666-1616. On the subject of meal cards, IIT is a little worried since only ~80 of our over three hundred attendees have purchased any pre-paid cards for the University cafeteria. The cards help them know how much food to purchase and prepare. They don't want to run out of food with people standing in line, so if you think that you will be eating on campus, please put a little credit on a card ahead of time so that they will know that you are coming. Thanks and see you at YAPC! From beth at loxosceles.org Thu Jun 15 08:11:20 2006 From: beth at loxosceles.org (Beth Skwarecki) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:11:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:29:45AM -0400, Joshua McAdams wrote: > On the subject of meal cards, IIT is a little worried since only ~80 > of our over three hundred attendees have purchased any pre-paid cards > for the University cafeteria. Why? Is the university cafeteria the only game in town? *Should* I be worried that I don't have a meal card? -beth, who was assuming there would be restaurants nearby -- Beth Skwarecki http://loxosceles.org Bioinformatics Analyst, http://sgn.cornell.edu print map {$x=$!=$_; $x=~s/[b-gik-oq-z]//ig; $x} (66,56,62,113) From garrison at codefix.net Thu Jun 15 08:23:59 2006 From: garrison at codefix.net (Garrison Hoffman) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:23:59 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> Beth Skwarecki wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:29:45AM -0400, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> On the subject of meal cards, IIT is a little worried since only ~80 >> of our over three hundred attendees have purchased any pre-paid cards >> for the University cafeteria. > > Why? Is the university cafeteria the only game in town? *Should* I be > worried that I don't have a meal card? Will IIT be refunding unused card balances? -- __________________________________________________________________ Garrison Hoffman Codefix Consulting 1.718.210.3445 garrison at codefix.net http://codefix.net/ 1.866.456.0584 From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 08:30:31 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:30:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: <44917D17.5090009@yapcchicago.org> > Why? Is the university cafeteria the only game in town? *Should* I be > worried that I don't have a meal card? > > -beth, who was assuming there would be restaurants nearby There are a few fast-food joints on 35 street (we are on 33rd) and China-town is one el stop away. Prudential has a map at http://map.prupref.com/?comm=1&street_1=3300%20S%20Federal&city=Chicago&state=IL that is somewhat helpful. There is also a discussion at http://yapcchicago.org/2006/03/28/food-near-iit/ From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 08:48:02 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:48:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> Message-ID: <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> > Will IIT be refunding unused card balances? Unfortunately not, so I would err on the side of under-buying. Remember that Tuesday night we are having a banquet, so dinner is on us and Wednesday night you will most likely be gone, so really there are only breakfast and lunch concerns except for Monday. Also, there are a few fast food joints around the campus, food delivery options, and good restaurants just a few el stops away. Worst case, you can go home with tons of candy bars and packs of gum :) From jira0004 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 10:25:28 2006 From: jira0004 at yahoo.com (Peter Jirak) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060615172529.73840.qmail@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I like the idea of doing something fun and social before the conference begins early on Monday. However, my flight does not arrive into O'Hare until 8:20 PM on Sunday so the arrival dinner is out. I am not planning on renting a car; I've found that having a car in Chicago is inconvenient. I am staying on North Halsted between Addison and Belmont. I figured I'd use the L to get to and from the conference. Drop me a line if any one is planning on going out for drinks or coffee after the arrival dinner. --- Peter Jirak E: jira0004 at yahoo.com --- Uri Guttman wrote: > > things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu > vote. over 40 have > signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't > signed up. you know > who you are so ADD your name to the list! in > particular TPF and YAPC > committee members and such (even josh macadams!) > have not signed up. we > know where you live! > > the voting deadline is midnight on sunday june 18. i > have to call in the > menu on monday and i will wiki up the winning menu > after that. we have > until thursday june 22 to submit a head count. > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner > > and if you are a cheap bastard :) you can join the > growing contigent at > the anti arrival dinner. some thought i would be > upset about it and > actually i support it. this is an optional social > event so do whatever > you want. hell, all of yapc is optional so go for > it. but considering > that the expenses for yapc will be in the $100's for > most attendees > (adding in conference fees, travel, dorm, other > food), $30 more isn't > too much IMO :). > > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AntiArrivalDinner > > you could even go to the same place as the arrival > dinner and just get a > table and order from the menu. > > have fun in either event! > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- > http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems > Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs > ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 11:25:36 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:25:36 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: <20060615172529.73840.qmail@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060615172529.73840.qmail@web33908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70606151125od286efdr9af3a04afd7587b3@mail.gmail.com> You are wiki'd http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?PostArrivalDinner On 6/15/06, Peter Jirak wrote: > Hi all, > > I like the idea of doing something fun and social > before the conference begins early on Monday. > However, my flight does not arrive into O'Hare until > 8:20 PM on Sunday so the arrival dinner is out. > > I am not planning on renting a car; I've found that > having a car in Chicago is inconvenient. > > I am staying on North Halsted between Addison and > Belmont. I figured I'd use the L to get to and from > the conference. > > Drop me a line if any one is planning on going out for > drinks or coffee after the arrival dinner. > > --- Peter Jirak > E: jira0004 at yahoo.com > > --- Uri Guttman wrote: > > > > > things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu > > vote. over 40 have > > signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't > > signed up. you know > > who you are so ADD your name to the list! in > > particular TPF and YAPC > > committee members and such (even josh macadams!) > > have not signed up. we > > know where you live! > > > > the voting deadline is midnight on sunday june 18. i > > have to call in the > > menu on monday and i will wiki up the winning menu > > after that. we have > > until thursday june 22 to submit a head count. > > > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner > > > > and if you are a cheap bastard :) you can join the > > growing contigent at > > the anti arrival dinner. some thought i would be > > upset about it and > > actually i support it. this is an optional social > > event so do whatever > > you want. hell, all of yapc is optional so go for > > it. but considering > > that the expenses for yapc will be in the $100's for > > most attendees > > (adding in conference fees, travel, dorm, other > > food), $30 more isn't > > too much IMO :). > > > > > > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AntiArrivalDinner > > > > you could even go to the same place as the arrival > > dinner and just get a > > table and order from the menu. > > > > have fun in either event! > > > > thanx, > > > > uri > > > > -- > > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- > > http://www.stemsystems.com > > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems > > Architecture, Design and Coding- > > Search or Offer Perl Jobs > > ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 15 12:24:56 2006 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:24:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: Hi I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, groceries and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently lives in the area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and east. They say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. I asked them about traveling the 'L' in the evening, for example landing at midway at 7:30pm and taking the 'L' to IIT. They said that the ride from midway to down town should be okay, but they both expressed concern about the ride from down town to IIT at that evening time. They said things like ...well there should be plenty of police on the 'L' ... They say things have improved in the last 10 years ... but ... They seemed comfortable with riding the 'L' around noon. (So I decided to arrange my plane to arrive earlier in the day (and to stay on IIT rather than ride back and forth to a hotel Perhaps the information I have received is overly pessimistic. Perhaps some one with first hand experience both in the IIT area as well away from that area can provide some insights? Keeping in mind that some of us has always lived in pretty gentle communities. Help me be prudent and avoid being alarmest. Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 15 12:25:28 2006 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:25:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Returning from sunday evening arrival dinner Message-ID: Hi So IF safety is a concern ... what plans should we make returning from dinner sunday night? A group of 100 YAPC goers traveling as a group on the 'L' should be okay (but that is just a guess) but what about people who want to return later or earlier than the rest of the group. Should we be arranging to travel in groups of 4-5 or more and keeping an eye that no one gets left behind? Does anyone know enough to say? Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 15 12:30:25 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:30:25 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> > I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, > groceries > and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently > lives in the > area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY > CAUTIONED > me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and > east. They > say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 12:44:37 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:44:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <54102.68.20.14.131.1150400677.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Actually, that all sounds about right. Honestly, unless you know the area fairly well or have someone in your group that does, stick with the cafeteria for lunch. Travel in groups. North is safer than south. This seems to be about the norm for Chicago universities. U of Chicago is surrounded by bad areas (last time I was there) as is UIC. I guess those areas are cheaper for the schools to acquire. > Hi > > I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, > groceries > and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently lives in > the > area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY > CAUTIONED > me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and east. > They > say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. > > I asked them about traveling the 'L' in the evening, for example landing > at midway at 7:30pm and taking the 'L' to IIT. They said that the ride > from > midway to down town should be okay, but they both expressed concern about > the ride from down town to IIT at that evening time. They said things > like > ...well there should be plenty of police on the 'L' ... They say things > have > improved in the last 10 years ... but ... > > They seemed comfortable with riding the 'L' around noon. > > (So I decided to arrange my plane to arrive earlier in the day > (and to stay on IIT rather than ride back and forth to a hotel > > > Perhaps the information I have received is overly pessimistic. > > > Perhaps some one with first hand experience both in the IIT area > as well away from that area can provide some insights? Keeping > in mind that some of us has always lived in pretty gentle communities. > Help me be prudent and avoid being alarmest. > > > Regards, > Todd Olson > Cornell University > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 12:52:43 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:52:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> Message-ID: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago pm-ers that say "I'm a local!" People could then use the locals for advise or as a buddy for safer, smarter travel. >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, >> groceries >> and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently >> lives in the >> area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY >> CAUTIONED >> me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and >> east. They >> say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood > at night. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 15 12:44:49 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: à References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> à Message-ID: <44918070.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> So, are there going to be "I Survived YAPC Chicago" T-shirts? Bill Morris Bill Morris (bill_morris at ncsu.edu) Operations and Systems Analyst Distributed Environment Services Enterprise Technology Services & Support North Carolina State University Campus Box 7209 B21, 2620 Hillsborough Street Raleigh, NC 27695-7209 (919) 513-1800 >>> Andy Lester 6/15/2006 3:30:25 pm >>> > I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, > groceries > and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently > lives in the > area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY > CAUTIONED > me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and > east. They > say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From Todd.Chapman at gedas.com Thu Jun 15 12:44:25 2006 From: Todd.Chapman at gedas.com (Chapman, Todd) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:44:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution Message-ID: <0510F91DF8365A4EB4F60D9DD1DDE44B0152DAB2@VWOAAHSXH002.vwoa.na.vwg> I'll just wear my Detroit shirt. The rest of you can pay me protection. :) -Chaka -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+todd.chapman=gedas.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+todd.chapman=gedas.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elias Lutfallah Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 PM To: Andy Lester Cc: Todd Olson; yapc-general at perl.org; yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] A word of caution Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago pm-ers that say "I'm a local!" People could then use the locals for advise or as a buddy for safer, smarter travel. >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, >> groceries and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who >> currently lives in the area and another one who grew up there. Both >> of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED me about wandering around the area, >> particularly to the south and east. They say doing so presents a >> serious risk of being assaulted. > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood > at night. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 12:46:15 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <20060615144404.Q87517@atbash.c2group.net> Well, as a chicago.pm-er, I don't know that I'd have any special insight to the area, as all my time in Chicago has been on the north side. Though with a pinch of caution and a healthy dose of observation, people ought to be able to tell fairly well where they should avoid. But if anyone wants me to don a nametag as a 'local', I'm happy to do so, though I wouldn't want to be held liable for anything :) -Kent On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Elias Lutfallah wrote: > Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago pm-ers that say "I'm a > local!" People could then use the locals for advise or as a buddy for > safer, smarter travel. > > > > >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, > >> groceries > >> and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently > >> lives in the > >> area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY > >> CAUTIONED > >> me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and > >> east. They > >> say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. > > > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that > > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood > > at night. > > > > -- > > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > -- > Elias Lutfallah > Chief Technology Officer > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 12:46:46 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:46:46 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <4491B926.9030901@yapcchicago.org> > I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, groceries > and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently lives in the > area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED > me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and east. They > say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. Taking a look at crime reports in the area, it seems like there hasn't been too much filed in the last nine months. Most of the crime was against property and was far west of the campus, around US Cellular Field. http://www.chicagocrime.org/map/ Filter down to district 9 (Deering). IIT is on the east side of 90/94 at 33rd street. I'm not saying that it's overly safe around the area. Chicago is a big city and there are a lot of bad people. If you walk down dark alleys with cash in your hand, something will happen to you. Just use caution when you go places, especially at night. Go out in groups... you're here to socialize aren't you :) If you can, take the Green line on to and off of campus and board and exit on the north ramp because it will drop you off right behind the dorms an you will minimize time off campus. From patrick.anderson at bankofamerica.com Thu Jun 15 12:47:22 2006 From: patrick.anderson at bankofamerica.com (Anderson, Patrick) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:47:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54102.68.20.14.131.1150400677.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <1F2A39F226E7774389C8C2DE13AD883F01819014@ex2k.bankofamerica.com> I think it's more inertia than frugality. I know my old school (Manhattan College) and our arch-rivals (Fordham University) both situated themselves in The Bronx back when The Bronx was "the country". I know my school moved out of Manhattan in 1927, around the same time as the NY Botanical Society creating the Botanical Gardens and the NY Zoological Society starting the Bronx Zoo. Over time, the bad neighborhoods grew up around them. I'd suspect that most of these urban universities were situated just outside of town when they were founded, and the town has grown to absorb them like a hyperactive amoeba. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+patrick.anderson=bankofamerica.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+patrick.anderson=bankofamerica.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elias Lutfallah Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:45 PM To: Todd Olson Cc: yapc-general at perl.org; yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] A word of caution This seems to be about the norm for Chicago universities. U of Chicago is surrounded by bad areas (last time I was there) as is UIC. I guess those areas are cheaper for the schools to acquire. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 12:49:04 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:49:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <4491B9B0.6090906@yapcchicago.org> > Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago pm-ers that say "I'm a > local!" People could then use the locals for advise or as a buddy for > safer, smarter travel. Not a bad idea. It definitely pays to have a local as your tour guide. From steve at fisharerojo.org Thu Jun 15 12:52:10 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:52:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Returning from sunday evening arrival dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060615195210.GA16112@fisharerojo.org> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 03:25:28PM -0400, Todd Olson wrote: > Hi > > So IF safety is a concern ... what plans should we make returning from > dinner sunday night? > > A group of 100 YAPC goers traveling as a group on the 'L' should be okay > (but that is just a guess) > but what about people who want to return later or earlier than the rest > of the group. > > Should we be arranging to travel in groups of 4-5 or more and keeping > an eye that no one gets left behind? > > > Does anyone know enough to say? > I think that's travelling in packs is pretty much the rule in most big cities, especially when you aren't familiar with the area. That said, the IIT area and the Red Line "L" should be pretty well patroled that night with the White Sox/Astros game going on that evening. Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From todd at monkeybytes.org Thu Jun 15 12:55:25 2006 From: todd at monkeybytes.org (todd at monkeybytes.org) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:55:25 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> Message-ID: <49246290-D02E-44ED-A8FE-626AB3E711B3@monkeybytes.org> Complimentary O'Reilly nunchucks upon arrival... ? tw On Jun 15, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Andy Lester wrote: >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, >> groceries >> and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently >> lives in the >> area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY >> CAUTIONED >> me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and >> east. They >> say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood > at night. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From dha at panix.com Thu Jun 15 13:00:55 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:00:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20060615200055.GA21780@panix.com> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:30:25PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're > going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. *Now* you tell us?? /me makes a note to add this to the "how do we choose a yapc host" list... ;-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ All those quotes make my eyes bleed. Michael G. Schwern From jira0004 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:02:43 2006 From: jira0004 at yahoo.com (Peter Jirak) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <20060615200243.83253.qmail@web33901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I am not from Chicago, so I can't say with any certainty, but I've traveled to Chicago a few times. I've never had any problems when traveling by L or by cab. I could rent a car, but I found having a car while in Chicago is really inconvenient. My experience with big cities in the United States is that some times concerns over safty are over-stated, although again since I'm not from Chicago, I don't want to contradict any locals. I guess be safe, listen to your gut, use common sense. I've found specifically when it comes to warnings regarding safty that these tend to be a bit over-stated -- there is sort of a "oneupsmanship" amongst American urbanites when it comes to statements regarding the hazardousness of their own cities. Has any one else experienced this? --- Peter J. E: jira0004 at yahoo.com --- Elias Lutfallah wrote: > Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago > pm-ers that say "I'm a > local!" People could then use the locals for advise > or as a buddy for > safer, smarter travel. > > > > >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT > for restaurants, > >> groceries > >> and such. I have recently talked with two men, > one who currently > >> lives in the > >> area and another one who grew up there. Both of > them have STRONGLY > >> CAUTIONED > >> me about wandering around the area, particularly > to the south and > >> east. They > >> say doing so presents a serious risk of being > assaulted. > > > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this > year's YAPC is that > > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out > in the neighborhood > > at night. > > > > -- > > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => > www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > -- > Elias Lutfallah > Chief Technology Officer > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 15 13:03:34 2006 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:03:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Restaurants and grociers Message-ID: Hi I have been studying the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, groceries and such. As far as I can tell from the web they are scarce in the area. I've reached the opinion that the IIT cafeteria has a pretty good monopoly on food at that address. The following web site appears helpful if you zoom in a couple steps. (but google map that powers it seems to some times be wildly off in location) (do cross check the information) restaurants http://www.yelp.com/map-tastic?lon=-87.62900&lat=41.84590&qt=search&qa=restaurant Notice that IIT is at the right top prong of the upper most rt 94 sign on the map (I think) groceries http://www.yelp.com/map-tastic?lon=-87.62900&lat=41.84590&qt=search&qa=grocery As Josh says everything seems to be a ride up the 'L'. The Jewel Foods near Roosevelt and State seems to be convenient to the L (where there is an L transfer point) Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From tco2 at cornell.edu Thu Jun 15 13:05:41 2006 From: tco2 at cornell.edu (Todd Olson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:05:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi At 10:29 -0400 2006-06-15, Joshua McAdams wrote: >On the subject of meal cards, IIT is a little worried since only ~80 >of our over three hundred attendees have purchased any pre-paid cards >for the University cafeteria. I have food alergies and the IIT food service web site is not providing enough information for me to evaluate what they offer. Is there a phone number I can call at the food service? Regards, Todd Olson Cornell University From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 13:16:58 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615200055.GA21780@panix.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> <20060615200055.GA21780@panix.com> Message-ID: <54270.68.20.14.131.1150402618.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> I've lived here most of my life. I've lived in nice areas and really bad areas. I've never had any crime fall upon my person with the exception of having my car broken into once or twice. As long as you keep your eyes open and are aware of your surroundings, you should be ok. Things can change very fast around here. Where I live, there are blocks with nice family houses and crack dealers hanging out on the next block over. > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:30:25PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: >> >> The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're >> going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. > > *Now* you tell us?? > > /me makes a note to add this to the "how do we choose a yapc host" > list... ;-) > > dha -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From kevin at jibsheet.com Thu Jun 15 13:07:28 2006 From: kevin at jibsheet.com (Kevin Falcone) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:07:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:29:45AM -0400, Joshua McAdams wrote: > If you've been holding out on deciding on whether or not you are > staying in the dorms at IIT, don't hold out any longer. We need to > get our final room counts in to the University this week! After > today, you'll have to look elsewhere to find accommodations. I've been unable to find the answer to this on the website/wiki but I might not be looking in the right place. I'm registered in SSV. Should I plan on on bringing linens and towels? Also, I'm arriving kind of early on Sunday (best flight) what time will they start letting us drop our luggage off in our rooms? Thanks -kevin From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Thu Jun 15 13:08:08 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:08:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: Just another note: I've wandered (even staggered) around those areas later at night and ridden the El at all hours and have never run into anything close to trouble. Usual 'big city' ideas - don't be stupid (stay out of back alleys or unlighted streets, don't try to conduct an illegal transaction w/ parties unknown etc.), aggressive or real drunk by yourself. Yes, people do get mugged (even here in Madison) but I wouldn't be hiding in the dorm by sundown because of it. Looking at: http://www.chicagocrime.org/streets/adams_st/ The "busiest" block had 2 thefts in June (yes, 2 reported thefts) at 9am and 3pm and 2 for the month of May. So its not like gangster-ville or anything. a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:13:59 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:13:59 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Restaurants and grociers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4491BF87.6050906@yapcchicago.org> > groceries > http://www.yelp.com/map-tastic?lon=-87.62900&lat=41.84590&qt=search&qa=grocery > > As Josh says everything seems to be a ride up the 'L'. Indeed :) I can't stress the importance of getting a CTA visitor pass when or before you get here. There is a lot going on in the city, but not much of it is grouped together. http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#e > The Jewel Foods near Roosevelt and State seems to be convenient to the L > (where there is an L transfer point) And it's right my my house :) From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:16:11 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:16:11 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> > I have food alergies and the IIT food service web site is not providing > enough information for me to evaluate what they offer. Is there a > phone number I can call at the food service? http://www.iit.edu/~sodexho/index.html Greg Lepore General Manager P 312.567.5245 lepore at iit.edu Joe Kocher Commons/Resident Dining Director P 312.567.8834 kocher at iit.edu Mark Heinssen Catering Director P 312.567.5244 Heinssen at iit.edu Sabrina Nichols Retail Manager P 312.567.3098 nichols at iit.edu Jovanny Zepeda Catering and Retail Chef P 312.567.5244 zepeda at iit.edu Antonio Costillo Resident Dining and U Club Chef P 312.567.3716 costillo at iit.edu From frag at ripco.com Thu Jun 15 13:16:58 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Restaurants and grociers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you're taking the L north to shop, and you have specific needs (ie you're not just looking for peanut butter and sardines) it may be worth your while to go to Chinatown and shop there. From IIT, just go north on the Green Line, transfer to the Red Line at Roosevelt going south, and get off at the next station (Cermak/Chinatown). Some write-ups are at: http://www.lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8440&view=previous&sid=1d721804d080af5bf245198898603bea -- Mike F. From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 15 13:17:12 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:17:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Restaurants and grociers In-Reply-To: <4491BF87.6050906@yapcchicago.org> References: <4491BF87.6050906@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <44918808.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Ahh, so we are having drinks at Josh's house. I'm not to worried about the area. I'll just wear my "I'm With Josh" Perlcast shirt. Naaawww, on second thought; that would get me mugged. Probably by YAPC folks. 8=) Bill Morris >>> Josh McAdams 6/15/2006 4:13:59 pm >>> > groceries > http://www.yelp.com/map-tastic?lon=-87.62900&lat=41.84590&qt=search&qa=grocery > > As Josh says everything seems to be a ride up the 'L'. Indeed :) I can't stress the importance of getting a CTA visitor pass when or before you get here. There is a lot going on in the city, but not much of it is grouped together. http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#e > The Jewel Foods near Roosevelt and State seems to be convenient to the L > (where there is an L transfer point) And it's right my my house :) _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:17:48 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:17:48 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> Message-ID: <4491C06C.3030109@yapcchicago.org> > I've been unable to find the answer to this on the website/wiki but > I might not be looking in the right place. I'm registered in SSV. > Should I plan on on bringing linens and towels? Also, I'm arriving > kind of early on Sunday (best flight) what time will they start > letting us drop our luggage off in our rooms? Linens are provided.. towels, hm, hadn't thought about that one, but I'll check. Check in can start at noon on the day that you are scheduled to arrive. The details of check-in are still being worked out, but someone will be there to check you into the dorm at noon. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 15 13:18:31 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 15 Jun 2006 13:18:31 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615200055.GA21780@panix.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <2339F876-EC93-4D83-802E-9E76F07EC1B4@petdance.com> <20060615200055.GA21780@panix.com> Message-ID: <86mzcekwa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "David" == David H Adler writes: David> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:30:25PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: >> >> The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're >> going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. David> *Now* you tell us?? David> /me makes a note to add this to the "how do we choose a yapc host" David> list... ;-) It's not like there was much within walking distance of buffalo.edu either. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 15 13:23:26 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 15 Jun 2006 13:23:26 -0700 Subject: [yapc] ["Juan Trevino" ] Re: A word of caution (Out of the office) Message-ID: <86fyi6kw1t.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Juan Trevino" Subject: Re: [yapc] A word of caution (Out of the office) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:19:42 -0400 Size: 1817 Url: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060615/f992405b/attachment.mht From tom at yarrish.com Thu Jun 15 12:20:06 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:20:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: Can only people staying on site at IIT get the meal cards? I'll be coming in every day from the NW Suburbs and I'd like to pick up a meal card if I can. I didn't see anything on the site about it. Thanks, Tom We crucify ourselves between two thieves- regret for yesterday and fear of tomorrow. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:30:20 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:30:20 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> Tom Yarrish wrote: > Can only people staying on site at IIT get the meal cards? I'll be coming > in every day from the NW Suburbs and I'd like to pick up a meal card if I > can. I didn't see anything on the site about it. Anybody can get a card. From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 15 13:32:36 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:32:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] ["Juan Trevino" ] Re: A word of caution (Out of the office) In-Reply-To: <86fyi6kw1t.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86fyi6kw1t.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <2B51DF53-4EE4-4983-9F51-61E35AC3C907@petdance.com> On Jun 15, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Please remove this loser from this list, s/loser/fuckhead/ and then read: http://www.petdance.com/perl/geek-culture/ Randal: You are a key, visible member of the Perl community. Please don't call others in my community losers. xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 13:44:36 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:44:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <54366.68.20.14.131.1150404276.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> You can also pay cash. I bought 1 $15 card so they can account for my presence, and I'll pay cash when that runs out. Probably around breakfast on Monday. > Tom Yarrish wrote: >> Can only people staying on site at IIT get the meal cards? I'll be >> coming >> in every day from the NW Suburbs and I'd like to pick up a meal card if >> I >> can. I didn't see anything on the site about it. > > Anybody can get a card. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From tom at yarrish.com Thu Jun 15 12:28:42 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: Do you have to call IIT directly or is there a link on the site for it? On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > Tom Yarrish wrote: >> Can only people staying on site at IIT get the meal cards? I'll be coming >> in every day from the NW Suburbs and I'd like to pick up a meal card if I >> can. I didn't see anything on the site about it. > > Anybody can get a card. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > We crucify ourselves between two thieves- regret for yesterday and fear of tomorrow. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:40:04 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:40:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <4491C5A4.600@yapcchicago.org> Tom Yarrish wrote: > Do you have to call IIT directly or is there a link on the site for it? http://www.yapcchicago.org/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2 From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 13:57:01 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:57:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Linens and Towels Message-ID: <4491C99D.7060500@yapcchicago.org> IIT just informed me that SSV and MSV rooms all come equipped with linens and towels. From clay at bloomcounty.org Thu Jun 15 14:15:24 2006 From: clay at bloomcounty.org (Clay Fiske) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:15:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <4491C5A4.600@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <4491C00B.6010309@yapcchicago.org> <4491C35C.6050408@yapcchicago.org> <4491C5A4.600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060615211524.GQ77328@bloomcounty.org> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 04:40:04PM -0400, Josh McAdams wrote: > Tom Yarrish wrote: > > Do you have to call IIT directly or is there a link on the site for it? > > http://www.yapcchicago.org/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2 For those of us not staying on campus, but who have purchased a meal card, should we expect it in the mail or is it something we need to pick up when we arrive there? Forgive me if this is mentioned somewhere, I went back for another look and couldn't find it. -c From nothingmuch at woobling.org Thu Jun 15 14:26:44 2006 From: nothingmuch at woobling.org (Yuval Kogman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:26:44 +0300 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <44918070.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44918070.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <20060615212644.GA12121@woobling.org> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 15:44:49 -0400, Bill Morris wrote: > So, are there going to be "I Survived YAPC Chicago" T-shirts? We can make some on cafepress. If anybody has some graphics fu to slap together the Perl onion, and the YAPC Chicago logotype I'll gladly pay (as long as it's black). Ciao! -- Yuval Kogman http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Depending on how many you want, I can probably get it in with our order for YAPC t-shirts... there is a 20/color setup fee, but then the shirts are in the $5 range. Assuming Cafepress shirts are $20 each (with shipping), 7 shirts is where the tide turns in favor of getting a printer to do it for you. From trey at lopsa.org Thu Jun 15 14:38:06 2006 From: trey at lopsa.org (Trey Harris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution Message-ID: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> My company only pays for accommodations listed in their approved list, and the IIT dorms were not (surprise), so I'm staying at the Club Quarters at Wacker and Michigan (which was mentioned on the website as an alternate lodging). Anyone else staying there? If so, if walking with groups to and from the L is important for safety, maybe we should buddy up. I lived in NYC for years, so I'm generally blase about city crime, but adding on total unfamiliarity with the location and the transit system makes me a little nervous. Trey From diona at knowmad.com Thu Jun 15 14:43:18 2006 From: diona at knowmad.com (Diona Kidd) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:43:18 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615212644.GA12121@woobling.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44918070.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <20060615212644.GA12121@woobling.org> Message-ID: I'd pick one of those up too. It'd be a good joke... On Jun 15, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Yuval Kogman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 15:44:49 -0400, Bill Morris wrote: >> So, are there going to be "I Survived YAPC Chicago" T-shirts? > > We can make some on cafepress. > > If anybody has some graphics fu to slap together the Perl onion, and > the YAPC Chicago logotype I'll gladly pay (as long as it's black). > > Ciao! > > -- > Yuval Kogman > http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 15 14:46:51 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 15 Jun 2006 14:46:51 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Trey" == Trey Harris writes: Trey> My company only pays for accommodations listed in their approved list, Trey> and the IIT dorms were not (surprise), so I'm staying at the Club Trey> Quarters at Wacker and Michigan (which was mentioned on the website as Trey> an alternate lodging). Anyone else staying there? If so, if walking Trey> with groups to and from the L is important for safety, maybe we should Trey> buddy up. I'm also staying at the Club Quarters, because my company needs me to stay somewhere other than the dorms. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 14:46:26 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:46:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <20060615164556.Q87517@atbash.c2group.net> FYI, that is an exceptionally (within reason) safe area of town. You're blocks south of the mag mile. Not much need to buddy-up, though it wouldn't hurt. On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Trey Harris wrote: > My company only pays for accommodations listed in their approved list, and the > IIT dorms were not (surprise), so I'm staying at the Club Quarters at Wacker > and Michigan (which was mentioned on the website as an alternate lodging). > Anyone else staying there? If so, if walking with groups to and from the L is > important for safety, maybe we should buddy up. > > I lived in NYC for years, so I'm generally blase about city crime, but adding > on total unfamiliarity with the location and the transit system makes me a > little nervous. > > Trey > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 14:51:48 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:51:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615144744.U21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <20060615164556.Q87517@atbash.c2group.net> <20060615144744.U21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <20060615164935.D87517@atbash.c2group.net> Whoops! I believe I've been misunderstood. Around IIT seems to be generally less safe than most other parts of town, or so I'm told as I don't have direct first-hand knowledge. Please don't add my comments regarding this area to the mix, I believe others with better knowledge than I would know better. In the recent email which was quoted below, I was specifically referring to the area around Club Quarters at Michigan and Wacker (or thereabouts) - THAT is the safe area of town. -Kent On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Trey Harris wrote: > In a message dated Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Kent Cowgill writes: > > > FYI, that is an exceptionally (within reason) safe area of town. You're > > blocks south of the mag mile. Not much need to buddy-up, though it > > wouldn't hurt. > > I thought the walk from IIT campus proper to the L station was mentioned > as problematic? > > Trey > From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Thu Jun 15 14:53:16 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:53:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3CE@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Okay, so I grew up in a small town of 1,217 people (I could probably even name everyone off). I've lived/worked in Houston, but only wandered around the galleria area late, LATE at night, so I haven't spent much time in the "bad parts" of cities. If you guys are trying to scare me, it's not going to work. I've rented several Steven Seagal movies and Chuck Norris has a ranch near College Station (where I live), so I'm getting prepared. ;-) Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andy Lester Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:30 PM To: Todd Olson Cc: yapc-general at perl.org; yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] A word of caution > I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, > groceries > and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently > lives in the > area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY > CAUTIONED > me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and > east. They > say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood at night. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tim at consultix-inc.com Thu Jun 15 15:01:51 2006 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:01:51 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:46:51PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Trey" == Trey Harris writes: > > I'm also staying at the Club Quarters, because my company needs me > to stay somewhere other than the dorms. :) I'm staying there too, so it sounds like we'll have a sufficiently large gaggle of geeks to fend off the bozos if we travel together. And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer too for added protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal in Chicago that's banned in Amsterdam). *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | UPCOMING CLASSES: 6/12-16 Shell & Utilities 7/18 Intermed. Perl | | Watch for my upcoming book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See MinimalPerl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 15:02:56 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:02:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] I Survived YAPC Chicago Message-ID: <4491D910.3090401@yapcchicago.org> For those who are thinking about the alternate conference t-shirt: http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ISurvivedYAPCChicagoTShirt From kswanson at watson.wustl.edu Thu Jun 15 15:04:29 2006 From: kswanson at watson.wustl.edu (Kenneth Swanson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <1F2A39F226E7774389C8C2DE13AD883F01819014@ex2k.bankofamerica.com> References: <1F2A39F226E7774389C8C2DE13AD883F01819014@ex2k.bankofamerica.com> Message-ID: <1150409069.11210.11.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 15:47 -0400, Anderson, Patrick wrote: > I think it's more inertia than frugality. I know my old school > (Manhattan College) and our arch-rivals (Fordham University) both > situated themselves in The Bronx back when The Bronx was "the country". > I know my school moved out of Manhattan in 1927, around the same time as > the NY Botanical Society creating the Botanical Gardens and the NY > Zoological Society starting the Bronx Zoo. Over time, the bad > neighborhoods grew up around them. > > I'd suspect that most of these urban universities were situated just > outside of town when they were founded, and the town has grown to absorb > them like a hyperactive amoeba. Most likely. My Dad actually attended IIT (about 50 years ago), and he's said it wasn't really bad back then. For the last 20 years, though the reputation has been as noted on the list. Fine to go directly to the campus, but don't go wandering around, especially at night. U of C is the same way, though the rumor I've heard is that the bad neighborhood is deliberate, to encourage the students to stay indoors and study...one reason why nobody at U of C has any fun, I've heard. :) -Ken From k_dahms at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 15:06:05 2006 From: k_dahms at yahoo.com (Karsten Dahms) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20060615220605.24653.qmail@web38708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am satying there too. Tim Maher wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:46:51PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Trey" == Trey Harris writes: > > I'm also staying at the Club Quarters, because my company needs me > to stay somewhere other than the dorms. :) I'm staying there too, so it sounds like we'll have a sufficiently large gaggle of geeks to fend off the bozos if we travel together. And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer too for added protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal in Chicago that's banned in Amsterdam). *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | UPCOMING CLASSES: 6/12-16 Shell & Utilities 7/18 Intermed. Perl | | Watch for my upcoming book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See MinimalPerl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060615/e58a6523/attachment.html From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Jun 15 15:07:04 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 15 Jun 2006 15:07:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Maher writes: Tim> And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer too for added Tim> protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal in Chicago Tim> that's banned in Amsterdam). Aha... I'll see your laser (literally) and raise it my *green* laser, and we'll be painting the skyline from 10 blocks away, and perhaps even the clouds. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 15:08:00 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Final YAPC Attendance Push Message-ID: <4491DA40.6090705@yapcchicago.org> It is time for the final attendance push for YAPC::NA 2006. We are asking everyone with to help us promote the conference so that this can be one of the best YAPC's to date. What is there to promote? First and foremost, we have over sixty Perl talks spread out over the three days of the conference. Don't forget the two-day courses offered after the conference at only a small fraction of their standard price. Let's make this the best YAPC ever. Tell a friend. Tell a co-worker. http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapc_poster.pdf http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapc_poster_white.pdf Have a blog? Blog it. http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapcna_blue_gold.gif http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapcna_purple_grey.gif http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapcna_purple_white.gif Have a website? Post a banner. http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapc_banner_narrow.jpg http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/yapc_banner_wide.jpg Thanks! Josh From ccf3 at mindspring.com Thu Jun 15 15:12:49 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:12:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> Todd Olson wrote: >Hi > >I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, groceries >and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently lives in the >area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED >me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and east. They >say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. > >Perhaps some one with first hand experience both in the IIT area >as well away from that area can provide some insights? Keeping >in mind that some of us has always lived in pretty gentle communities. >Help me be prudent and avoid being alarmist. > I went to IIT in the late 70s/early 80s. At that time it was: Projects to the south, projects to the north, nothing much interesting to the east, and Bridgeport to the west. Bridgeport is Mayor Daley's old neighborhood. The lighter skinned students would not stray south, east or north except in groups. The dark skinned students would not venture into Bridgeport unless part of a group of students. Since I went there, the neighborhood (Bronzeville) has gone up a squeak. They are tearing down the high rise projects and replacing them with 2 to 3 story housing projects. They put in a new police division headquarters at 35th and Michigan. They rebuilt the McDonald's on 35th. As I recall, there's a strip mall on 35th, way east at maybe Cottage Grove. It had a Walgreen's. There could be some small fast food like a Subway's. I don't know. I wouldn't venture north or south, as that's pretty much just projects. There could be some local restaurants on west 31st or west 35th. There's always China Town to the northwest, but take the "L". As others have suggested, don't look aggressive, but don't look like a chump. Travel in groups. Be polite like a Canadian or something. Don't stick your elbows out all the time. I had no problems in that part of the city when I went there. But I had long hair, a grizzly beard, grubby clothes and a half crazed look. (YMMV). Clyde Forrester From kswanson at watson.wustl.edu Thu Jun 15 15:17:43 2006 From: kswanson at watson.wustl.edu (Kenneth Swanson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:17:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 19:41 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu vote. over 40 have > signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't signed up. you know > who you are so ADD your name to the list! in particular TPF and YAPC > committee members and such (even josh macadams!) have not signed up. we > know where you live! What should I do if I'm not sure if I want to come or not? I was going to try to walk up the Cell and get tickets to the White Sox game, but if that falls through I'd like to come to the dinner. You want my name on the list? -Ken From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 15:18:14 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20060615171724.S87517@atbash.c2group.net> I'd be careful where you point those things. You don't want to draw any enemy fire ;-) On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Maher writes: > Tim> And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer too for added > Aha... I'll see your laser (literally) and raise it my *green* laser, and > we'll be painting the skyline from 10 blocks away, and perhaps even the > clouds. :) From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 15:31:33 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:31:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <54510.68.20.14.131.1150410693.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer too for > added protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal > in Chicago that's banned in Amsterdam). You forgot election rigging and constant oppression from the man. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 15 15:20:53 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:20:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. Anyone want to share a cab? Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? Jim Connor Clyde Forrester wrote: > Todd Olson wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, groceries >> and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who currently lives in the >> area and another one who grew up there. Both of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED >> me about wandering around the area, particularly to the south and east. They >> say doing so presents a serious risk of being assaulted. >> >> Perhaps some one with first hand experience both in the IIT area >> as well away from that area can provide some insights? Keeping >> in mind that some of us has always lived in pretty gentle communities. >> Help me be prudent and avoid being alarmist. >> > I went to IIT in the late 70s/early 80s. > > At that time it was: > Projects to the south, projects to the north, nothing much interesting > to the east, and Bridgeport to the west. Bridgeport is Mayor Daley's old > neighborhood. > > The lighter skinned students would not stray south, east or north except > in groups. The dark skinned students would not venture into Bridgeport > unless part of a group of students. > > Since I went there, the neighborhood (Bronzeville) has gone up a squeak. > They are tearing down the high rise projects and replacing them with 2 > to 3 story housing projects. They put in a new police division > headquarters at 35th and Michigan. They rebuilt the McDonald's on 35th. > > As I recall, there's a strip mall on 35th, way east at maybe Cottage > Grove. It had a Walgreen's. There could be some small fast food like a > Subway's. I don't know. I wouldn't venture north or south, as that's > pretty much just projects. There could be some local restaurants on west > 31st or west 35th. There's always China Town to the northwest, but take > the "L". > > As others have suggested, don't look aggressive, but don't look like a > chump. Travel in groups. Be polite like a Canadian or something. Don't > stick your elbows out all the time. I had no problems in that part of > the city when I went there. But I had long hair, a grizzly beard, grubby > clothes and a half crazed look. (YMMV). > > Clyde Forrester > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- JGC Interactive Inc. www.jgcinteractive.com Phone: 905-483-6054 Fax: 905-631-6054 This e-mail and its attachments may contain JGC Interactive Inc. proprietary information, which is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, or subject to COPYRIGHT belonging to JGC Interactive Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 15:35:49 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:35:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <54522.68.20.14.131.1150410949.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > I had no problems in that part of > the city when I went there. But I had long hair, a grizzly beard, grubby > clothes and a half crazed look. (YMMV). That's pretty much me right now. Except my beautiful long hair has abandoned me. :( -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 15:28:04 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:28:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > Anyone want to share a cab? > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is one company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional person. There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional person. From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 15:40:21 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:40:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <54528.68.20.14.131.1150411221.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > Anyone want to share a cab? > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > Jim Connor > I know to where I live (Wicker Park) a cab to O'Hare can cost as much as $40. IIT is farther away from O'Hare than Wicker Park, so it could climb to $50 plus tip. It would be better to take the L. Get the visitor pass as you will probably be taking the L more than once. Check the wiki for more info, I think there's a link there for the train pass. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From trey at lopsa.org Thu Jun 15 15:35:51 2006 From: trey at lopsa.org (Trey Harris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Another travel question Message-ID: <20060615153316.F21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> I'm going to be at a business meeting (actually, another conference planning meeting, for the LISA '06 conference) prior to YAPC at the Hyatt Regency O'Hare. Can anyone suggest my best bet for getting from there to the Club Quarters? Mass transit doesn't scare me, but local buses and interminable multi-stop hotel shuttles annoy me. :-) Trey From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 15:37:45 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:37:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060615173429.T87517@atbash.c2group.net> I'm not 100% sure about Midway, but with O'Hare there will be NO problems getting a cab - their cab stands are pretty well stocked at most reasonable hours of the day. The cab stands are clearly marked with arrows on signs near the baggage claim area. Just go outside and look for a long line of cabs. Take the first one available. Unless there's already a line of people. But as mentioned elsewhere, (or maybe not) - $44+ for a cab ride, or $2.50 for the L... I can only recommend a cab if you're really impatient, and don't mind paying +40 to save 20-30 minutes. -Kent On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > > Anyone want to share a cab? > > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is one > company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB > > There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional person. > > There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional person. > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 15:41:42 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:41:42 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Another travel question In-Reply-To: <20060615153316.F21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <20060615153316.F21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <4491E226.4070800@yapcchicago.org> Trey Harris wrote: > I'm going to be at a business meeting (actually, another conference > planning meeting, for the LISA '06 conference) prior to YAPC at the Hyatt > Regency O'Hare. Can anyone suggest my best bet for getting from there to > the Club Quarters? Mass transit doesn't scare me, but local buses and > interminable multi-stop hotel shuttles annoy me. :-) Assuming that the Hyatt Regency is actually next to O'Hare (or has a shuttle that can get you there), hop on the Blue line southbound to Clark and Lake. Exit the station on Lake street and walk or grab a cab for about a four block treck East and two blocks North. You could transfer at Clark/Lake onto the Orange, Green, or Purple lines and go to State/Lake, but it's a lot of hassle for the two blocks it would carry you. From ccf3 at mindspring.com Thu Jun 15 15:44:24 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:44:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <4491E2C8.1030808@mindspring.com> Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: >I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. >Anyone want to share a cab? >Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > >Jim Connor > I'd guess around $30-$50. If you take the Blue Line ("L") to the Lake Transfer station, and go upstairs to the Green Line, and take that to IIT, it should be about $1.75. It should be rather safe at that time of evening. It is well lit, and if you exit at the north end of the station, you'll be on campus. Not that it's at all scary any way. It will probably take a little longer than the cab ride. Of course, if you have a lot of stuff to carry, then a cab is about the only choice. You might save money by arranging for a limo. Clyde Forrester From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 15:42:23 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:42:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Another travel question In-Reply-To: <20060615153316.F21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <20060615153316.F21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <20060615173825.G87517@atbash.c2group.net> Trey: >From O'Hare: Blue line to downtown, transfer to the red line at Washington (Look for stairs going down after you get out at Washington to transfer to the red line), take the red line towards Lake (there ought to be a sign indicating which way is Lake), get out at Grand, walk a few blocks south/southeast to Club Quarters. Or once you get downtown, exit anywhere to the street (Clark & Lake, Washington) and hop a quick cab ($4-$5 plus tip, or thereabouts) to Club Quarters. On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Trey Harris wrote: > I'm going to be at a business meeting (actually, another conference > planning meeting, for the LISA '06 conference) prior to YAPC at the Hyatt > Regency O'Hare. Can anyone suggest my best bet for getting from there to > the Club Quarters? Mass transit doesn't scare me, but local buses and > interminable multi-stop hotel shuttles annoy me. :-) > > Trey > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jbalint at gmail.com Thu Jun 15 15:43:05 2006 From: jbalint at gmail.com (Jess Balint) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:43:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Another travel question In-Reply-To: <4491E226.4070800@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <4491e344.442cd83d.49bf.fffff98e@mx.gmail.com> I think the Hyatt is at the Rosemont stop. You have to walk around the block and past the highway to get to the blue line stop. It's about a ten minute walk. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+jbalint=gmail.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+jbalint=gmail.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Josh McAdams Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:42 PM To: Trey Harris Cc: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Another travel question Trey Harris wrote: > I'm going to be at a business meeting (actually, another conference > planning meeting, for the LISA '06 conference) prior to YAPC at the Hyatt > Regency O'Hare. Can anyone suggest my best bet for getting from there to > the Club Quarters? Mass transit doesn't scare me, but local buses and > interminable multi-stop hotel shuttles annoy me. :-) Assuming that the Hyatt Regency is actually next to O'Hare (or has a shuttle that can get you there), hop on the Blue line southbound to Clark and Lake. Exit the station on Lake street and walk or grab a cab for about a four block treck East and two blocks North. You could transfer at Clark/Lake onto the Orange, Green, or Purple lines and go to State/Lake, but it's a lot of hassle for the two blocks it would carry you. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 15 15:57:40 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:57:40 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> (Kenneth Swanson's message of "Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:17:43 -0500") References: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "KS" == Kenneth Swanson writes: KS> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 19:41 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: >> things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu vote. over 40 have >> signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't signed up. you know >> who you are so ADD your name to the list! in particular TPF and YAPC >> committee members and such (even josh macadams!) have not signed up. we >> know where you live! KS> What should I do if I'm not sure if I want to come or not? I was KS> going to try to walk up the Cell and get tickets to the White Sox KS> game, but if that falls through I'd like to come to the dinner. KS> You want my name on the list? i thought the sunday chisox game was in the afternoon. and the wiki reported it as sold out. in any case they said that stragglers are welcome but will have to pay the same costs. that is what the wristbands are all about. i will double check this tomorrow. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From ingy at ttul.org Thu Jun 15 16:04:05 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:04:05 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! Message-ID: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> Who will have a Motorcycle at YAPC? I rode a bike in Chicago for several of my younger years. It is definitely the best (most fun) way to get around town. For this YAPC, my best Chicago buddy Dave is lending me his BMW F650. Psyche! I'll have an extra helmet, so be nice to me :P Add yourself to: http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MotorcyclePeople Cheers, Ingy From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 15 16:04:43 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:04:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <4491AF1F.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Randal can't stay in the dorms because they won't let his Llama sleep inside and Stonehenge is definitely concerned about their Llama; not Randal, just the Llama. Bill Morris Bill Morris (bill_morris at ncsu.edu) Enterprise Technology Services & Support North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7209 >>> Randal L. Schwartz 6/15/2006 5:46 pm >>> >>>>> "Trey" == Trey Harris writes: Trey> My company only pays for accommodations listed in their approved list, Trey> and the IIT dorms were not (surprise), so I'm staying at the Club Trey> Quarters at Wacker and Michigan (which was mentioned on the website as Trey> an alternate lodging). Anyone else staying there? If so, if walking Trey> with groups to and from the L is important for safety, maybe we should Trey> buddy up. I'm also staying at the Club Quarters, because my company needs me to stay somewhere other than the dorms. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 16:34:24 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:34:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Rooms and Meal Cards In-Reply-To: <4491ED1F.5070802@hyperbolic.net> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> <4491C06C.3030109@yapcchicago.org> <4491ED1F.5070802@hyperbolic.net> Message-ID: <45A0F14D-6313-4DE2-A3B2-9919060A3DDF@yapcchicago.org> > How about those of us arriving and going straight to the arrival > dinner? Will there be someone to check us in at whatever unsavory > hour we arrive back? That's the plan. I'm working with IIT to have someone there at all times. From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 15 16:36:10 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:36:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: References: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <0E5E0DE5-3DF0-4361-8880-8A72E1A0D0D0@yapcchicago.org> > i thought the sunday chisox game was in the afternoon. and the wiki > reported it as sold out. in any case they said that stragglers are > welcome but will have to pay the same costs. that is what the > wristbands > are all about. i will double check this tomorrow. I had posted that the warning track and other party areas were sold out, but I doubt that the game is. The Sox don't play in Wrigley field :) From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Thu Jun 15 16:37:35 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:37:35 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008373@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> > Sorry, this gave me a really good chuckle. > > I'm sure you'll be fine, as long as you exercise common sense. Someone > already said it on the list, (or maybe on irc #yapc) - don't walk down > dark alleys, walk in a group, avoid surly looking people. > ;-) Yeah, I've decided I'm not too worried. I'll probably be on campus most of the time anyway. I figure if I DO go around town in the evening, it would more than likely be with a group of surly...er....Perl people. What about walking down a dark alley with a group of surly looking people? Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Someone > > already said it on the list, (or maybe on irc #yapc) - don't walk down > > dark alleys, walk in a group, avoid surly looking people. > > > > ;-) Yeah, I've decided I'm not too worried. I'll probably be on campus most of the time anyway. I figure if I DO go around town in the evening, it would more than likely be with a group of surly...er....Perl people. > > What about walking down a dark alley with a group of surly looking people? > > Jeremy > > > > > From jhd at interguru.com Thu Jun 15 16:48:48 2006 From: jhd at interguru.com (Joe Davidson) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:48:48 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615173429.T87517@atbash.c2group.net> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> <20060615173429.T87517@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <75c1d03e0606151648t1141fda0n24c3f5b15b0025ce@mail.gmail.com> I'm arriving at 9:15 and others are arriving about that time. Does anyone know O'Hare enough to suggest a place to meet and either take the L together or share a cab? Joe Davidson On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure about Midway, but with O'Hare there will be NO problems > getting a cab - their cab stands are pretty well stocked at most > reasonable hours of the day. > > The cab stands are clearly marked with arrows on signs near the baggage > claim area. Just go outside and look for a long line of cabs. > > Take the first one available. Unless there's already a line of people. > > But as mentioned elsewhere, (or maybe not) - $44+ for a cab ride, or $2.50 > for the L... I can only recommend a cab if you're really impatient, and > don't mind paying +40 to save 20-30 minutes. > > -Kent > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > > > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > > > Anyone want to share a cab? > > > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > > > I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is one > > company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB > > > > There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > person. > > > > There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > person. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Joe Davidson Silver Spring, MD www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm truespel.com/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060615/f9a28987/attachment.html From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 15 16:56:05 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:56:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <75c1d03e0606151648t1141fda0n24c3f5b15b0025ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615151120.GB27339@highsorcery.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> <20060615173429.T87517@atbash.c2group.net> <75c1d03e0606151648t1141fda0n24c3f5b15b0025ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060615185034.P87517@atbash.c2group.net> Depends on what airline you're taking, that'll route you to one of three different terminals United -> terminal 1, Delta and some others -> terminal 3, something else -> terminal 2. International flights, terminal 5. I'd recommend exchanging cell phone numbers and trying to meet near baggage claim of terminal X. If arriving at different terminals, they're arranged in a horseshoe: 2 3 1 (with terminal 5 being separate, requiring a tram ride to the other terminals). So pick whatever's in the middle :) Caution, if there's a small group looking to share a cab, DO NOT ask for the "shared ride" option - it'll be a fixed price, but even though there will be one stop, the price will be per person (unless you're better at negotiating than I am) - so what would've cost $40-$50 plus tip split 3-4 ways, is now $160 or so. (The shared ride is useful when several strangers are going to several destinations. Still a fixed price, but sometimes helps if there's a long line of people waiting for cabs) -Kent On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Davidson wrote: > I'm arriving at 9:15 and others are arriving about that time. Does anyone > know O'Hare enough to suggest a place to meet and either take the L together > or share a cab? > > Joe Davidson > > On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > > > I'm not 100% sure about Midway, but with O'Hare there will be NO problems > > getting a cab - their cab stands are pretty well stocked at most > > reasonable hours of the day. > > > > The cab stands are clearly marked with arrows on signs near the baggage > > claim area. Just go outside and look for a long line of cabs. > > > > Take the first one available. Unless there's already a line of people. > > > > But as mentioned elsewhere, (or maybe not) - $44+ for a cab ride, or $2.50 > > for the L... I can only recommend a cab if you're really impatient, and > > don't mind paying +40 to save 20-30 minutes. > > > > -Kent > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > > > > > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > > > > Anyone want to share a cab? > > > > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > > > > > I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is one > > > company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB > > > > > > There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > person. > > > > > > There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > person. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > -- > Joe Davidson > Silver Spring, MD > www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm > truespel.com/en > From dha at panix.com Thu Jun 15 17:25:09 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:25:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615184427.J87517@atbash.c2group.net> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008373@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <20060615184427.J87517@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <20060616002509.GA9433@panix.com> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 06:46:58PM -0500, Kent Cowgill wrote: > You know, it sounds like some of us locals are going to default to being > tour guides and chaperrones. Welcome to hosting a YAPC. ;-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ SURF MUSIC makes EVERYTHING better! - Tom Servo From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 15 17:43:12 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:43:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> Message-ID: <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that long a trip. Ingy dot Net wrote: > Who will have a Motorcycle at YAPC? I rode a bike in Chicago for several > of my younger years. It is definitely the best (most fun) way to get > around town. > > For this YAPC, my best Chicago buddy Dave is lending me his BMW > F650. Psyche! > > I'll have an extra helmet, so be nice to me :P > > Add yourself to: > > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MotorcyclePeople > > Cheers, Ingy > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- JGC Interactive Inc. www.jgcinteractive.com Phone: 905-483-6054 Fax: 905-631-6054 This e-mail and its attachments may contain JGC Interactive Inc. proprietary information, which is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, or subject to COPYRIGHT belonging to JGC Interactive Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is STRICTLY PROHIBITED and may be UNLAWFUL. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. Thank You. From tom at legrady.ca Thu Jun 15 18:55:04 2006 From: tom at legrady.ca (Tom Legrady) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:55:04 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86u06mjdmc.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20060615220151.GA31425@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <44F07799-571F-4796-B644-B677A3FE61B2@legrady.ca> Untill someone decides you're aiming at airplanes and comes to arrest you both. On 15-Jun-06, at 6:07 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Maher writes: > > Tim> And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer > too for added > Tim> protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal > in Chicago > Tim> that's banned in Amsterdam). > > Aha... I'll see your laser (literally) and raise it my *green* > laser, and > we'll be painting the skyline from 10 blocks away, and perhaps even > the > clouds. :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl > training! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Tom Legrady tom at legrady.ca XMas Shopping photos => http://www.flickr.com/photos/89217343 at N00/ sets/1601047/show From joey at joeykelly.net Thu Jun 15 19:14:41 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:14:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <44F07799-571F-4796-B644-B677A3FE61B2@legrady.ca> References: <20060615143741.J21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> <86hd2mjcon.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <44F07799-571F-4796-B644-B677A3FE61B2@legrady.ca> Message-ID: <200606152114.41550.joey@joeykelly.net> On Thursday 15 June 2006 20:55, Tom Legrady wrote: > Untill someone decides you're aiming at airplanes and comes to arrest > you both. Yeah, they'll probably accuse merlyn of trying to hack airplanes ;-) > > On 15-Jun-06, at 6:07 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Maher writes: > > > > Tim> And I'll be wielding an (standard Office Max) laser pointer > > too for added > > Tim> protection! 8-} (Which is perhaps the only thing that's legal > > in Chicago > > Tim> that's banned in Amsterdam). > > > > Aha... I'll see your laser (literally) and raise it my *green* > > laser, and > > we'll be painting the skyline from 10 blocks away, and perhaps even > > the > > clouds. :) -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net How many spyware pop-ups did you get on your Windows computer today? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060615/d583f3b1/attachment.bin From ingy at ttul.org Thu Jun 15 19:01:21 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:01:21 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> On 15/06/06 20:43 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: > That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a > bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that > long a trip. I've ridden smaller coast to coast! > > Ingy dot Net wrote: > > Who will have a Motorcycle at YAPC? I rode a bike in Chicago for several > > of my younger years. It is definitely the best (most fun) way to get > > around town. > > > > For this YAPC, my best Chicago buddy Dave is lending me his BMW > > F650. Psyche! > > > > I'll have an extra helmet, so be nice to me :P > > > > Add yourself to: > > > > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MotorcyclePeople > > > > Cheers, Ingy > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > -- > JGC Interactive Inc. > www.jgcinteractive.com > Phone: 905-483-6054 > Fax: 905-631-6054 > > This e-mail and its attachments may contain JGC Interactive Inc. > proprietary information, which is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, or subject > to COPYRIGHT belonging to JGC Interactive Inc. This e-mail is intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee > or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, > copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments > to this e-mail is STRICTLY PROHIBITED and may be UNLAWFUL. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and > permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any > printout. Thank You. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ken at mathforum.org Thu Jun 15 19:05:44 2006 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:05:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> Message-ID: <24E3D231-676E-464F-8986-A3F645DDC039@mathforum.org> On Jun 15, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Ingy dot Net wrote: > On 15/06/06 20:43 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: >> That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a >> bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that >> long a trip. > > I've ridden smaller coast to coast! Yeah, but wasn't that in Panama? -Ken From eli at mortgagefolder.com Thu Jun 15 19:21:14 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:21:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <55057.68.20.14.131.1150424474.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a > bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that > long a trip. I've ridden my VStar 650 from Chicago to Alabama and back. Also from Chicago to Denver and back. It is extremely uncomfortable on long trips. My butt hurts just thinking about those trips. Woof. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 15 19:16:41 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:16:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> Message-ID: <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> Ingy dot Net wrote: > On 15/06/06 20:43 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: >> That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a >> bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that >> long a trip. > > I've ridden smaller coast to coast! > Yeah, but I'm not as young as I used to be! From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 15 19:48:05 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:48:05 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <55057.68.20.14.131.1150424474.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <55057.68.20.14.131.1150424474.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <44921BE5.7040301@jgcinteractive.com> Elias Lutfallah wrote: > I've ridden my VStar 650 from Chicago to Alabama and back. Also from > Chicago to Denver and back. > > It is extremely uncomfortable on long trips. My butt hurts just thinking > about those trips. As many have said, the VStar 650 really could use a sixth gear. I find it quite buzzy/harsh over 100km/h (~60mph). You could try another seat, but I don't think it's practical to try a different transmission! From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Thu Jun 15 19:58:53 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:58:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <55057.68.20.14.131.1150424474.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <55057.68.20.14.131.1150424474.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <4491E613.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Try club runs on a Triumph Tiger 750 hard tail with drag bars. Ouch. When I was younger and my back was better. 8=) Bill Morris (The BikerPoet) >>> "Elias Lutfallah" 6/15/2006 10:21 pm >>> > That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a > bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that > long a trip. I've ridden my VStar 650 from Chicago to Alabama and back. Also from Chicago to Denver and back. It is extremely uncomfortable on long trips. My butt hurts just thinking about those trips. Woof. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From andy at petdance.com Thu Jun 15 21:22:57 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:22:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <48D4AE87-737B-4400-AF7D-D7535D41828C@petdance.com> On Jun 15, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: > Yeah, but I'm not as young as I used to be! Who is? -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From jim at jgcinteractive.com Fri Jun 16 04:23:59 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:23:59 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <48D4AE87-737B-4400-AF7D-D7535D41828C@petdance.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> <48D4AE87-737B-4400-AF7D-D7535D41828C@petdance.com> Message-ID: <449294CF.8070306@jgcinteractive.com> Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: > >> Yeah, but I'm not as young as I used to be! > > Who is? I only like to speak for myself. From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jun 16 08:56:30 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:56:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: <4491e344.442cd83d.49bf.fffff98e@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: I was told that the Adams Club Quarters was closer to IIT (2 tenths of mile) than the Mich Ave one ... appears to be a looong walk though, but easy (easier) to get to the El. Is it worth trying to move? a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From jira0004 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 09:09:32 2006 From: jira0004 at yahoo.com (Peter Jirak) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060616160932.60409.qmail@web33915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My experience is that in the Summer everything books up in Chicago, and that last minute changes of accomodations are difficult and expensive. If you have a place, I wouldn't switch it now. Short cab rides including tip are usually pretty affordable, although typically unless the weather is bad or I'm running late, I just walk. --- Peter J. --- Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov wrote: > I was told that the Adams Club Quarters was closer > to IIT (2 tenths of > mile) than the Mich Ave one ... appears to be a > looong walk though, but > easy (easier) to get to the El. > > Is it worth trying to move? > > a > > Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler > Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov > VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 > > "Accurate measurement is the begining of all > wisdom." > - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 16 09:13:15 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:13:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060616110808.E16965@atbash.c2group.net> It doesn't matter which is closer to IIT, as you need some form of transportation either way. Either club quarters location looks to be about 2.5 blocks, give or take, to an L. 111 W. Adams, you'd have to walk east 1.5 blocks, and possibly one further block north or south. 75 E. Wacker, you have to walk about 1/1.5 block(s) southwest (that part of Wacker is slightly diagonal), one block south, and one block west. Either one is an easy walk, even in the summer. -Kent On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov wrote: > I was told that the Adams Club Quarters was closer to IIT (2 tenths of > mile) than the Mich Ave one ... appears to be a looong walk though, but > easy (easier) to get to the El. > > Is it worth trying to move? > > a > > Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler > Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov > VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 > > "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." > - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 09:13:28 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:13:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: References: <4491e344.442cd83d.49bf.fffff98e@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70606160913u1e7107e1rd39e63f4807caafc@mail.gmail.com> > I was told that the Adams Club Quarters was closer to IIT (2 tenths of > mile) than the Mich Ave one ... appears to be a looong walk though, but > easy (easier) to get to the El. Both fo the CQ's are decently close to the El. The good thing about the Michigan one is that it's close to the green line, which will drop you off on IIT's campus. If you're at Michigan/Wacker, you'll probably want to stay there. From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jun 16 09:34:07 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:34:07 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606160913u1e7107e1rd39e63f4807caafc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks. I'll stay, I guess - won't have to worry about losing any sleep due to Randal's Llama snoring or anything. a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 16 10:39:34 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Jun 2006 10:39:34 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <864pylgfu1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Bach writes: Andy> Thanks. I'll stay, I guess - won't have to worry about losing any sleep Andy> due to Randal's Llama snoring or anything. If we have a four a-llama fire or something, they'll probably wake you up. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 16 10:42:38 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:42:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: <864pylgfu1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <864pylgfu1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <16477DA5-9792-469C-B558-AF3D7DCA5281@petdance.com> On Jun 16, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Andy> Thanks. I'll stay, I guess - won't have to worry about > losing any sleep > Andy> due to Randal's Llama snoring or anything. > > If we have a four a-llama fire or something, they'll probably wake > you up. Thanks, alpaca set of earmuffs. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jun 16 11:06:21 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:06:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Yet Another travel question - CQ on Adams or Mich In-Reply-To: <16477DA5-9792-469C-B558-AF3D7DCA5281@petdance.com> Message-ID: Arghh!!! Turtletaub!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtletaub I'm sorry I opened that can of wool. a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 16 11:35:07 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:35:07 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Techpodcasts.com Roundtable Featuring YAPC Message-ID: <4492F9DB.8020904@yapcchicago.org> Techpodcasts.com has dedicated two of the three 20-minute segments of their monthly roundtable to YAPC::NA and Perl. The live event will be held tomorrow, June 17th, 2006 at 1:30 PM Pacific, 4:30 Eastern. If you are interested in attending you can sign up at http://www.techpodcasts.com/special.html. If you are interested in helping to present, please let me know soon by email. From pcory at wcpss.net Fri Jun 16 12:21:28 2006 From: pcory at wcpss.net (Paul Cory) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:21:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Tennis? In-Reply-To: <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <20060615200728.GA18413@jibsheet.com> Message-ID: <3D2301AB-FC74-4C14-88B7-363EA625C8E4@wcpss.net> OK, I'm well aware that the intersection of good tennis players and Perl enthusiasts isn't all that big. However, if you don't ask... So, I am bringing a tennis racquet to YAPC. There are courts on campus, and I need to get some hitting in, because I'm going straight from YAPC to the NC State 4.0 League Champions Tournament . So are any other good tennis players coming to YAPC? If so, are you bringing a racquet and interested in playing? Paul Cory Webmaster Wake County Public School System http://www.wcpss.net/ From ingy at ttul.org Fri Jun 16 12:22:54 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:22:54 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> Message-ID: <20060616192254.GA19364@ttul.org> On 15/06/06 22:16 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: > Ingy dot Net wrote: > > On 15/06/06 20:43 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: > >> That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a > >> bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that > >> long a trip. > > > > I've ridden smaller coast to coast! > > > Yeah, but I'm not as young as I used to be! At least you're well ridden. Broken in counts for something. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From twists at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 12:23:11 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:23:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] What is "Sanctuary"@Neo on Sunday? Message-ID: I was looking for places to go out dancing on Sunday. It looks like Neo http://neo-chicago.com/ has a schedule I'd like expect that it isn't clear what this "Sanctuary" thing is. Do any of you locals have an opinion on this? Earlier in the evening I'll be in the Pullman neighborhood playing with some traditional English folk dancers. I figure to just use the L to get around from place to place. Josh Reachable @ (612) 239-1120 From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 16 12:29:45 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:29:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] What is "Sanctuary"@Neo on Sunday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060616142657.X16965@atbash.c2group.net> Hmm. Neo is different than what I was thinking - I had it mistaken with something else. But a quick perusal at the link, "Electro, Retro, Industrial" seems a bit far from someone doing traditional English folk dancing. But the link and description of sanctuary seems like traditional DJ mixed dance fare, with an emphasis on ... well, electro, retro, and industrial :-) What kind of dancing are you looking for? -Kent On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > I was looking for places to go out dancing on Sunday. It looks like > Neo http://neo-chicago.com/ has a schedule I'd like expect that it > isn't clear what this "Sanctuary" thing is. Do any of you locals have > an opinion on this? > > Earlier in the evening I'll be in the Pullman neighborhood playing > with some traditional English folk dancers. I figure to just use the L > to get around from place to place. > > Josh > Reachable @ (612) 239-1120 > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jim at jgcinteractive.com Fri Jun 16 12:30:12 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.)) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:30:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Motorcycles! In-Reply-To: <20060616192254.GA19364@ttul.org> References: <20060615230405.GA3458@ttul.org> <4491FEA0.7020506@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616020121.GA6291@ttul.org> <44921489.1060606@jgcinteractive.com> <20060616192254.GA19364@ttul.org> Message-ID: <449306C4.3000000@jgcinteractive.com> If I get any more broken... (pa dum pum. I'll be here all week!) Ingy dot Net wrote: > On 15/06/06 22:16 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: >> Ingy dot Net wrote: >>> On 15/06/06 20:43 -0400, Jim Connor (JGC Interactive Inc.) wrote: >>>> That would be fun, but riding my VStar 650 from Southern Ontario is a >>>> bit far! It looks like a big bike, but it's really too small for that >>>> long a trip. >>> I've ridden smaller coast to coast! >>> >> Yeah, but I'm not as young as I used to be! > > At least you're well ridden. Broken in counts for something. > >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- JGC Interactive Inc. www.jgcinteractive.com Phone: 905-483-6054 Fax: 905-631-6054 This e-mail and its attachments may contain JGC Interactive Inc. proprietary information, which is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, or subject to COPYRIGHT belonging to JGC Interactive Inc. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is STRICTLY PROHIBITED and may be UNLAWFUL. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. Thank You. From twists at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 12:36:27 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:36:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] What is "Sanctuary"@Neo on Sunday? In-Reply-To: <20060616142657.X16965@atbash.c2group.net> References: <20060616142657.X16965@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: On 6/16/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > But the link and description of sanctuary seems like traditional DJ mixed > dance fare, with an emphasis on ... well, electro, retro, and industrial Ohhhh! The bad CSS caused the description to get hidden by a picture. I didn't think to read the HTML. I thought there was no description. Dang. Now I've made a fool of myself. > What kind of dancing are you looking for? Well... if Electro-Morris dancing were feasible (beyond existing in a cover on Bjork's Army of Remix) I'd definately go there. Thanks for uh... helping me notice that the page already had the info. Josh From kswanson at watson.wustl.edu Fri Jun 16 12:48:09 2006 From: kswanson at watson.wustl.edu (Kenneth Swanson) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:48:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: References: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <1150487289.1290.5.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 18:57 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "KS" == Kenneth Swanson writes: > > KS> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 19:41 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > >> things are moving along on the arrival dinner menu vote. over 40 have > >> signed up and i know plenty are coming who haven't signed up. you know > >> who you are so ADD your name to the list! in particular TPF and YAPC > >> committee members and such (even josh macadams!) have not signed up. we > >> know where you live! > > KS> What should I do if I'm not sure if I want to come or not? I was > KS> going to try to walk up the Cell and get tickets to the White Sox > KS> game, but if that falls through I'd like to come to the dinner. > KS> You want my name on the list? > > i thought the sunday chisox game was in the afternoon. and the wiki > reported it as sold out. The wiki did report that. The wiki...was wrong. (In defense of who wrote that, the game might have been shifted to the night because ESPN decided to broadcast it. I believe that's something ESPN does.) > in any case they said that stragglers are > welcome but will have to pay the same costs. that is what the wristbands > are all about. i will double check this tomorrow. Cool, let me know what I have to do. Thanks, -Ken From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 16 13:09:32 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:09:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner voting In-Reply-To: <1150487289.1290.5.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> (Kenneth Swanson's message of "Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:48:09 -0500") References: <1150409863.11210.15.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> <1150487289.1290.5.camel@linus33.gsc.wustl.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "KS" == Kenneth Swanson writes: KS> On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 18:57 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: >> >>>>> "KS" == Kenneth Swanson writes: >> in any case they said that stragglers are >> welcome but will have to pay the same costs. that is what the wristbands >> are all about. i will double check this tomorrow. KS> Cool, let me know what I have to do. well, if you know you will be there, sign up on the arrival dinner page. you can show up anytime during the 2 hours we have the room. what i meant is that if you are on the fence due to travel issues, you can walk in and buy into the dinner then. there should be enough for at least a dozen walkins as buffets are usually generous with portions. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner and this is a good point to ask other to SIGN UP NOW. we are only 25 short of the minimum of 80 needed. i am sure we will get that number but the earlier you sign up the better i will feel. and you do want to make me happy? otherwise i might be a very grumpy auctioneer! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From shild at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 16 13:36:36 2006 From: shild at sbcglobal.net (Scott T. Hildreth) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:36:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] What is "Sanctuary"@Neo on Sunday? In-Reply-To: References: <20060616142657.X16965@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <1150490197.1015.29.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 14:36 -0500, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > On 6/16/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > But the link and description of sanctuary seems like traditional DJ mixed > > dance fare, with an emphasis on ... well, electro, retro, and industrial > > Ohhhh! The bad CSS caused the description to get hidden by a picture. > I didn't think to read the HTML. I thought there was no description. > Dang. Now I've made a fool of myself. > > > What kind of dancing are you looking for? > > Well... if Electro-Morris dancing were feasible (beyond existing in a > cover on Bjork's Army of Remix) I'd definately go there. I haven't been to Neo in years, but I'm sure you will get Cabaret Voltaire, Front 242, ...etc type music. You can check out the "Exit" - The original was my favorite bar, haven't been to the new one. ...okay, scratch the Exit looks like Sundays are metal night, (unless your into metal.) http://www.exitchicago.com/ ..Back in the day :-), Sundays were Doomsday, you brought your skull mug with you for cheaper beer. You can check out the Crowbar, I never been there. This was opened by one of the owners of the Original Exit. http://www.crowbar.com This is a cool neighborhood bar, the guitar player from "No Empathy" owns it. It is all 80's retro (punk-new wave). There are pictures from shows, bands, t-shirts, toys, ...etc. http://centerstage.net/dance/clubs/club-foot.html > > Thanks for uh... helping me notice that the page already had the info. > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Scott T. Hildreth From jira0004 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:21:11 2006 From: jira0004 at yahoo.com (Peter Jirak) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] What is "Sanctuary"@Neo on Sunday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060616212111.76221.qmail@web33911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey Josh, I am attending the YAPC conference as well. I am arriving on Sunday, June 25 at 8:20 PM and I am departing on Saturday, July 1 at 5:30 PM. I am attending the conference Monday - Wednesday and I am attending the Perl Best Practices class on Thrusday and Friday. I am staying on North Halsted between Belmont and Addison at the Villa Toscana. It is right near Voltaire's which is a resturant with a cabaret. Also, Sidetrack's is right in the neighborhood. Sidetrack's is fun and often has good music but doesn't have dancing. I'd be willing to go with you to Neo's if you'd like although, I don't dance much as I often feel awkward, although a couple of drinks could change my mind. Let me know. It would be fun to hang out with you around Chicago. Regards, Peter Jirak E: jira0004 at yahoo.com C: 612-703-1847 --- Joshua ben Jore wrote: > On 6/16/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > But the link and description of sanctuary seems > like traditional DJ mixed > > dance fare, with an emphasis on ... well, electro, > retro, and industrial > > Ohhhh! The bad CSS caused the description to get > hidden by a picture. > I didn't think to read the HTML. I thought there was > no description. > Dang. Now I've made a fool of myself. > > > What kind of dancing are you looking for? > > Well... if Electro-Morris dancing were feasible > (beyond existing in a > cover on Bjork's Army of Remix) I'd definately go > there. > > Thanks for uh... helping me notice that the page > already had the info. > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu Fri Jun 16 15:06:36 2006 From: Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu (York, Joel) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:06:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution Message-ID: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF61F5@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> I attended IIT a little more recently (early 90s) and I would say that you don't need to worry so much as long as you stay on campus. The 7-11 in the middle of campus attracts a large amount of police (free coffee for them), which helps. ;) However, I wouldn't recommend going south of 35th at night, unless in groups or during a Sox game. Taking the el should be okay for the most part. I work at the U of C and right now, we've had some serious crime problems for the last year or so, but, even so, the students here seem to have more fun that I did when I was going to IIT. Could be a grass is greener thing, though. My last word of caution: keep your wallet out of your back pocket. Getting your pocket picked sucks. Joel -----Original Message----- Most likely. My Dad actually attended IIT (about 50 years ago), and he's said it wasn't really bad back then. For the last 20 years, though the reputation has been as noted on the list. Fine to go directly to the campus, but don't go wandering around, especially at night. U of C is the same way, though the rumor I've heard is that the bad neighborhood is deliberate, to encourage the students to stay indoors and study...one reason why nobody at U of C has any fun, I've heard. :) -Ken _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ingy at ttul.org Sat Jun 17 15:42:57 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:42:57 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Kwiki-Theme-YAPCChicago Message-ID: <20060617224257.GB11537@ttul.org> I hacked up a Kwiki theme for YAPC to match the main site. It's on CPAN and also at: http://svn.kwiki.org/ingy/Kwiki-Theme-YAPCChicago It requires these lines in the `plugins` file: Kwiki::Theme::YAPCChicago Kwiki::Toolbar::List Which implies removing these lines: Kwiki::Theme::Basic Kwiki::Toolbar Whoever is maintaining the wiki can meet me on #yapc and I can give further instuctions if needed. There is a test instance at: http://yapctest.kwiki.org/ Cheers, Ingy From mprewitt at flatiron.org Sun Jun 18 07:23:02 2006 From: mprewitt at flatiron.org (Marc Prewitt) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:23:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Interested in a morning martial arts workout? Message-ID: <449561C6.5040806@flatiron.org> For those interested in working out a couple of mornings, I've put a BOF page up: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MartialArtsBOF From pete at yapcchicago.org Sun Jun 18 20:06:22 2006 From: pete at yapcchicago.org (Peter Krawczyk) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:06:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Monday Night and Thursday Cubs Tickets just opened up Message-ID: <2C7A0A42-AFBD-45F0-B68C-0AC8B5321E5D@yapcchicago.org> For those of you who were thinking of going to a Cubs game Monday night... A whole bunch of tickets just opened up - groups of 3 and 4 are being found throughout the stadium. In fact, there's also a group of 8 I just discovered as well. Cubs ticketing is at http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/schedule/index.jsp? c_id=chc There's also tickets left for Thursday's game, which is a 1:20, for those of you staying later than Wednesday night. Both games are against the Brewers. -Pete K -- Pete Krawczyk pete at yapcchicago dot org http://www.yapcchicago.org/ From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 18 20:27:32 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:27:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Monday Night and Thursday Cubs Tickets just opened up In-Reply-To: <2C7A0A42-AFBD-45F0-B68C-0AC8B5321E5D@yapcchicago.org> (Peter Krawczyk's message of "Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:06:22 -0500") References: <2C7A0A42-AFBD-45F0-B68C-0AC8B5321E5D@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "PK" == Peter Krawczyk writes: PK> For those of you who were thinking of going to a Cubs game Monday PK> night... PK> A whole bunch of tickets just opened up - groups of 3 and 4 are being PK> found throughout the stadium. In fact, there's also a group of 8 I PK> just discovered as well. PK> Cubs ticketing is at http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/schedule/index.jsp? PK> c_id=chc PK> There's also tickets left for Thursday's game, which is a 1:20, for PK> those of you staying later than Wednesday night. Both games are PK> against the Brewers. if you (or someone) wants to lead this, wiki up a page (for signups) and someone should grab some tix. i would definitely be into a monday night game (prolly too hot for day games) so hold a ticket for me. often we have planned a movie night but no energy was spent in that direction (ain't heard of a geek friendly movie opening soon anyhow). so monday night would be great for a cubs outing. if someone grabbed a dozen or so tickets, i am sure they would be bought up by eager yapc'ers. so grab them soon and you will be a yapc hero! thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 18 22:43:16 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:43:16 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner menu Message-ID: hey all, the voting for the arrival dinner menu is closed and here are the results: the appetizer winners are: Cheese & Vegetable Quesadillas 37 Cool Dip Platter 30 Crispy Chicken Wings 28 --------------- Spinach N' Artichoke Dip 21 Golden Tortilla Chips With Salsa 20 the main dish winners are: Mini Pulled Pork Sandwich 29 Turkey Club 21 --------------- Grilled Or Crispy Chicken Tenders 18 Mini Burgers 11 and i think both veggie platters should be on the menu. Seasonal Fresh Fruit Display $85 8 Grilled Vegetable Kebabs $95 13 that will add about $2+ to your average bill if we have about 80 or so attendees. we have 65 + 2 probable and a week to go so 80 will be passed even if i have to hunt some of you down. i will be calling in this menu on monday and we need to have a head count complete by thursday june 22. so get away from your atari and sign up for the arrival dinner. it is easy (i am sure you can edit a wiki), it will be fun, and it is 100% legal. as always bribes are welcome. your yapc::na 2006 arrival dinner voting commissioner, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 19 10:12:58 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:12:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] On-Campus Accomidations Message-ID: <4496DB1A.9050803@yapcchicago.org> Okay, I have the draft version of the list of attendees staying on campus. There is a page for MSV Singles, SSV Singles, and SSV doubles. If you are staying on campus, please make sure that you are signed up and that the nights that you are staying are flagged with a 'Y'. If you have any problems with what is on the page, just send me a note off-list. I know that some of these are wrong because there are a few of you that we are trying to get into the dorms a little early. Feel free to remind me if you are one of those people and yet the wiki doesn't show your real checkin and departure. SSV Doubles http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?OfficialSSVDoubleResidents SSV Singles http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?OfficialSSVSingleResidents MSV Singles http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?OfficialMSVSingleResidents Thanks, Josh From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 19 10:19:48 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:19:48 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Last Day For Lightning Talk Submissions Message-ID: <4496DCB4.6030307@yapcchicago.org> Today is the last day to get your submissions in for lightning talks. Don't miss this opportunity to practice your speaking skills in front of a live and hostile crowd :) http://www.justanotherperlhacker.org/cgi-local/lightning/submit.pl?conference=yapcna2006 From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 19 12:09:27 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:09:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] The Official Tag of YAPC::NA 2006 - yapcna2006 Message-ID: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> As difficult as it is to believe, YAPC::NA 2006 is now less than one week away. Most likely many of you will be starting your journeys to the Windy City soon. Of course some of you will be blogging about it and some will be snapping photos and uploading to flickr along the way. In order to catch all of the talk about YAPC, we are asking that you use the tag 'yapcna2006' when tagging your entries and that you add your blog or website to our list of attendee blogs at http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AttendeeBlogs. Also, let us know where you are putting your tags, be it flickr, del.icio.us, or whatever. There are a few YAPC photo projects that are being worked on, so if you are willing to license your content under a creative commons license that allows for reuse, please remember to note that when posting. Thanks, Josh From Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu Mon Jun 19 13:19:08 2006 From: Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu (York, Joel) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:19:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Public Transport Mashups Message-ID: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF62DF@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> If you're looking for some visual tools for route information via train in Chicago, look here: http://www.tastypopsicle.com/maps/cta.asp (the el) http://www.stanford.edu/~jvittes/Metra.html (Metra) -- Joel York Programmer / Analyst, Computing Services The University of Chicago Graduate School of Business 5807 South Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60637 Visit us at http://ChicagoGSB.edu From glenn at easy-access.com Mon Jun 19 13:24:59 2006 From: glenn at easy-access.com (Glenn Bushee) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:24:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? Message-ID: Anyone know how safe it is to park a fairly decent road bicycle on campus? If I use a u-lock, will I have to also worry about the seat being stolen for example? If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/usemaps/15-Q.html (Linked from http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/keymap.html ) Thanks. - Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060619/e94e0563/attachment.html From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 19 13:27:36 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:27:36 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Public Transport Mashups In-Reply-To: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF62DF@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> (Joel York's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:19:08 -0500") References: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF62DF@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "YJ" == York, Joel writes: YJ> If you're looking for some visual tools for route information via train YJ> in Chicago, look here: YJ> http://www.tastypopsicle.com/maps/cta.asp (the el) YJ> http://www.stanford.edu/~jvittes/Metra.html (Metra) please add those to the wiki under UsefulMaps. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From kent at c2group.net Mon Jun 19 13:30:20 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:30:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060619152630.S14121@atbash.c2group.net> Bring a non-bic-pen-pickable u-lock, and probably also a kryptonite chain. If you have a nice seat, remove it. If you're staying in the dorms, bring it into your dorm room, and i'd even u-lock it there. And please, make sure you lock it to a designated bike locking device - permanently attached to the ground via concrete, not small trees or "no parking" sign posts where a determined would-be-theif could lift it up over the sign. Remove any easily removeable bike computers, water bottles, toolkits, under-seat bags, etc. I've seen lesser bikes taken (or picked apart) from the loop unless these kinds of precautions are in place! Even with a heavy pedestrian presense. -Kent On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Glenn Bushee wrote: > Anyone know how safe it is to park a fairly decent road bicycle on campus? > If I use a u-lock, will I have to also worry about the seat being stolen for > example? > > If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. > http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/usemaps/15-Q.html > (Linked from http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/keymap.html > ) > > Thanks. > > - Glenn > From ingy at ttul.org Mon Jun 19 13:52:31 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:52:31 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: <20060619152630.S14121@atbash.c2group.net> References: <20060619152630.S14121@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <20060619205231.GC20498@ttul.org> On 19/06/06 15:30 -0500, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Bring a non-bic-pen-pickable u-lock, and probably also a kryptonite chain. > > If you have a nice seat, remove it. > > If you're staying in the dorms, bring it into your dorm room, and i'd even > u-lock it there. > > And please, make sure you lock it to a designated bike locking device - > permanently attached to the ground via concrete, not small trees or "no > parking" sign posts where a determined would-be-theif could lift it up > over the sign. Even if you ulock to someting like a parking meter, try to pull the parking meter out the ground first, as many of these (and signs too) are loose traps for bikes. > Remove any easily removeable bike computers, water bottles, toolkits, > under-seat bags, etc. > > I've seen lesser bikes taken (or picked apart) from the loop unless these > kinds of precautions are in place! Even with a heavy pedestrian presense. > > -Kent > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Glenn Bushee wrote: > > > Anyone know how safe it is to park a fairly decent road bicycle on campus? > > If I use a u-lock, will I have to also worry about the seat being stolen for > > example? > > > > If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. > > http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/usemaps/15-Q.html > > (Linked from http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/keymap.html > > ) > > > > Thanks. > > > > - Glenn > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From adeltac at valueclick.com Mon Jun 19 13:57:54 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:57:54 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: <20060619205231.GC20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Ingy dot Net > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:53 PM > To: Kent Cowgill > Cc: yapc at pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? > > On 19/06/06 15:30 -0500, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Bring a non-bic-pen-pickable u-lock, and probably also a kryptonite > chain. > > > > If you have a nice seat, remove it. > > > > If you're staying in the dorms, bring it into your dorm room, and i'd > even > > u-lock it there. > > > > And please, make sure you lock it to a designated bike locking device - > > permanently attached to the ground via concrete, not small trees or "no > > parking" sign posts where a determined would-be-theif could lift it up > > over the sign. > > Even if you ulock to someting like a parking meter, try to pull the > parking > meter out the ground first, as many of these (and signs too) are loose > traps > for bikes. On that note - If anyone wants a *official* YAPC 2006 parking meter, just holler, I'll be selling them at the curbside for $50 a pop. Aran > > Remove any easily removeable bike computers, water bottles, toolkits, > > under-seat bags, etc. > > > > I've seen lesser bikes taken (or picked apart) from the loop unless > these > > kinds of precautions are in place! Even with a heavy pedestrian > presense. > > > > -Kent > > > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Glenn Bushee wrote: > > > > > Anyone know how safe it is to park a fairly decent road bicycle on > campus? > > > If I use a u-lock, will I have to also worry about the seat being > stolen for > > > example? > > > > > > If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. > > > http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/usemaps/15-Q.html > > > (Linked from > http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/keymap.html > > > ) > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > - Glenn > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 14:03:10 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:03:10 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70606191403r17054d8agb1214e785a6a5a8f@mail.gmail.com> > If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. (Lake Trail)++ It's really nice from around the 60th block south up to Navy Pier... I can't vouch for the north side. Just watch out, because it can get busy sometimes and a lot of people like to stop in the middle of the trail, which causes the fast people to wipe-out. I had the misfortune of seeing a very painful collision a couple of weeks ago. One of the riders was out cold on the side of the trail. From fish-yapc at uc.org Mon Jun 19 14:08:44 2006 From: fish-yapc at uc.org (Eric) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Blues? Message-ID: I'm coming into town on Friday, and doing some touristy stuff over the weekend. Seems like one of those things should be taking in some Chicago Blues. So, three questions, then: 1. Do Chicago blues clubs still exist, or am I 30 years too late? 2. What clubs are suggested for a Saturday night? 3. Does anyone else want to join us on Saturday night? Thanks, Eric From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 19 14:17:21 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:17:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Blues? In-Reply-To: (fish-yapc@uc.org's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:08:44 -0400 (EDT)") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "E" == Eric writes: E> I'm coming into town on Friday, and doing some touristy stuff E> over the weekend. Seems like one of those things should be E> taking in some Chicago Blues. So, three questions, then: E> 1. Do Chicago blues clubs still exist, or am I 30 years too late? E> 2. What clubs are suggested for a Saturday night? E> 3. Does anyone else want to join us on Saturday night? mi, mi, mi!! :) wiki up a page and google and pick a place. i will be arriving saturday afternoon so after my nap (hey, i just turned 49 yesterday! :), i will be up for some blues. maybe some locals can help us out. just another perl hacking blues fan, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From dbryan at edats.com Mon Jun 19 14:19:58 2006 From: dbryan at edats.com (Derek Bryan) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:19:58 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Question about the dorm rooms Message-ID: What amenities will be available at the MSV hall? Is bedding provided? What is the shower situation? Derek Z. Bryan Data Transfer Solutions, LLC 13013 Founders Square Dr. Orlando, FL 32828 Phone: (407) 382-5222 x19 Fax: (407) 382-5420 dbryan at edats.com http://www.edats.com From kent at c2group.net Mon Jun 19 14:23:06 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606191403r17054d8agb1214e785a6a5a8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70606191403r17054d8agb1214e785a6a5a8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060619162122.S14121@atbash.c2group.net> I can vouch for the north side of the lakeshore bike path - very nice ride indeed. Used to take that in to work a few years ago. Though the crowded warning goes double here - get ready to yell "on your left!" a few times a minute :) If anyone's up for a longer ride, I could probably whip up a trip sheet to get you up to the Great Lakes Naval Academy. -Kent On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > If the weather is nice, looks like a nice path along Lake Michigan. > > (Lake Trail)++ It's really nice from around the 60th block south up > to Navy Pier... I can't vouch for the north side. > > Just watch out, because it can get busy sometimes and a lot of people > like to stop in the middle of the trail, which causes the fast people > to wipe-out. I had the misfortune of seeing a very painful collision > a couple of weeks ago. One of the riders was out cold on the side of > the trail. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From kent at c2group.net Mon Jun 19 14:25:56 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Blues? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060619162458.T14121@atbash.c2group.net> http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/search/dispatcher.front?target=entertainment&Query=blues (sorry if the link doesn't click). If you find a place that looks interesting, I can tell you what I've heard about it (if anything) and the best way to get to it. Off the top of my head, I've heard some good things about Kingston Mines. -Kent On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "E" == Eric writes: > > E> I'm coming into town on Friday, and doing some touristy stuff > E> over the weekend. Seems like one of those things should be > E> taking in some Chicago Blues. So, three questions, then: > > E> 1. Do Chicago blues clubs still exist, or am I 30 years too late? > E> 2. What clubs are suggested for a Saturday night? > E> 3. Does anyone else want to join us on Saturday night? > > mi, mi, mi!! :) > > wiki up a page and google and pick a place. i will be arriving saturday > afternoon so after my nap (hey, i just turned 49 yesterday! :), i will > be up for some blues. maybe some locals can help us out. > > just another perl hacking blues fan, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From matt at tablexi.com Mon Jun 19 14:26:35 2006 From: matt at tablexi.com (Matthew Lineen) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:26:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Blues? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've enjoyed these two, and they happen to be across the street from each other... Kingtson Mines 2548 N. Halsted www.kingstonmines.com B.L.U.E.S. 2519 N. Halsted www.chicagobluesbar.com A longer list of options is here: http://centerstagechicago.com/music/clubs/styles/blues.html And as a general resource, there are plenty of ideas for things to do and places to go on http://www.metromix.com ... Matthew From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 14:27:08 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:27:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Question about the dorm rooms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70606191427l8397dcan112d134e38cfa1b1@mail.gmail.com> > What amenities will be available at the MSV hall? > Is bedding provided? What is the shower situation? Bedding, towels, and washclothes are provided. I'm not sure of the shower situation, but think that it is private stalls in a restroom shared by the entire floor. From ingy at ttul.org Mon Jun 19 14:46:06 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:46:06 -0700 Subject: [yapc] F*** blues... Jazz! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> ...In my best Dennis Hopper from Blue Velvet voice... I'm definitely interesting in going to my old haunt, the Green Mill. Old Capone hangout that hasn't changed much since then. Live Jazz until 4am or later... Any other suggestions for Jazz clubs? From ceeshek at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 14:47:00 2006 From: ceeshek at gmail.com (Cees Hek) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Question about the dorm rooms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/19/06, Derek Bryan wrote: > What amenities will be available at the MSV hall? > Is bedding provided? What is the shower situation? On that same note, are there any shared kitchen facilities available? Just looking for a toaster and/or a microwave really. Cheers, Cees From miyagawa at gmail.com Mon Jun 19 15:13:17 2006 From: miyagawa at gmail.com (Tatsuhiko Miyagawa) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:13:17 +0900 Subject: [yapc] The Official Tag of YAPC::NA 2006 - yapcna2006 In-Reply-To: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> References: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <693254b90606191513q52ff8985x911b7c920609ef46@mail.gmail.com> Josh, I created a stub "Planet YAPC::NA" on http://plagger.org/yapc/ to aggregate posts mentioning YAPC::NA from various sources, using my RSS/Atom aggregation platform Plagger (http://plagger.org/). Sources are listed as "Subscriptions" on the right sidebar. If you have a suggestion for an useful feed to add, just let me know. Right now it uses Six Apart standard HTML template, so that you can use any of CSS theme compatible to Movable Type / TypePad, but of course, I could work on making it WordPressy to allow reusing yapcchicago.org stylesheets later :-) Also, if you're interested in hosting the Planet site yourself, or assigning a subdomain (like planet.yapcchicago.org) for the page, let me know. I could virtualhost the page if you want. On 6/20/06, Josh McAdams wrote: > As difficult as it is to believe, YAPC::NA 2006 is now less than one > week away. Most likely many of you will be starting your journeys to > the Windy City soon. Of course some of you will be blogging about it > and some will be snapping photos and uploading to flickr along the way. > In order to catch all of the talk about YAPC, we are asking that you > use the tag 'yapcna2006' when tagging your entries and that you add your > blog or website to our list of attendee blogs at > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AttendeeBlogs. Also, let us > know where you are putting your tags, be it flickr, del.icio.us, or > whatever. > > There are a few YAPC photo projects that are being worked on, so if you > are willing to license your content under a creative commons license > that allows for reuse, please remember to note that when posting. > > Thanks, > Josh -- Tatsuhiko Miyagawa From zrusilla at mac.com Mon Jun 19 15:43:24 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:43:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Lakefront path, was Re: Safe spots for road bike at IIT? Message-ID: <5333356.1150757004320.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> The path south of downtown is *much* less crowded than the north side. A former boss had his leg broken in 17 places when he collided with a rollerblader on the north path. That said, alertness is advised when navigating leisure cyclists, road racers, rollerbladers, power walkers, joggers, dog walkers, aimless amblers, and geese. > >Just watch out, because it can get busy sometimes and a lot of people >like to stop in the middle of the trail, which causes the fast people >to wipe-out. From uri at stemsystems.com Mon Jun 19 15:48:24 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:48:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Lakefront path, was Re: Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: <5333356.1150757004320.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> (Elizabeth Cortell's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:43:24 -0700") References: <5333356.1150757004320.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "EC" == Elizabeth Cortell writes: EC> The path south of downtown is *much* less crowded than the north EC> side. A former boss had his leg broken in 17 places when he EC> collided with a rollerblader on the north path. That said, EC> alertness is advised when navigating leisure cyclists, road EC> racers, rollerbladers, power walkers, joggers, dog walkers, EC> aimless amblers, and geese. sounds like we really need a "I Survived biking on the Lakefront path during YAPC::NA 2006 in Chicago" t-shirts! :-) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From zrusilla at mac.com Mon Jun 19 16:17:06 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:17:06 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Jazz and blues Message-ID: <16296517.1150759026146.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> I have added Blues and Jazz sections to the the ThingsToDo page, including links to the Chicago Reader's listings for each genre. From frag at ripco.com Mon Jun 19 16:19:33 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:19:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] some blues & jazz recommendations In-Reply-To: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> References: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: (I'll get this up on the wiki later.) Blues: Buddy Guy's Legends. Great place, real deal, good food, and centrally located in the near south Loop. Close to the Harrison stop of the Red line. http://www.buddyguys.com/ North side joints in Lincoln Park: B.L.U.E.S. and Kingston Mines. Fine, but sort of touristy/trendy. Nearest to Fullerton stop of Red & Brown lines. Not too far from Goose Island, and apparently on Sundays admission in one gets you in the other, so this might be a good destination for after the arrival dinner. http://www.chicagobluesbar.com/ http://www.kingstonmines.com/ Bossman Blues Center: If you're feeling adventurous, a real neighborhood blues venue in the West side. http://centerstage.net/music/clubs/boss-man-blues-club.html 1 block off the Garfield Park Conservatory stop on the Green Line (actually I think the east exit from the platform dumps you right in front of the place), but not a neighborhood to wander in. The Checkerboard Lounge: Another real neighborhood spot, this time in Hyde Park on the South Side. The only drawback I remember is that it's kind of cavernous. A lot of restaurants and shops are right around it, including a packed Jamaican place the name of which escapes me. http://centerstage.net/music/clubs/checkerboard.html Take the Metra Electric Line to the 51-53rd St. exit. I'm not sure how to get there by L and bus. It's literally just west of the tracks, in a shopping center behind a McDonalds. Rosa's Lounge: great place, but hard to get to, and not much else around it. Near the Blue Line Logan Square stop and you'll probably want a cab to get the rest of the way. http://www.rosaslounge.com/ Jazz: HotHouse is 2 blocks or so from Buddy Guy's, and is more of an eclectic world-music/hip-hop/fusion type place, but that includes a lot of jazz. http://www.hothouse.net/ Monday the 26th actually features Yoko Noge's Jazz Me Blues, which should make for a good Reeses-cups, You-got-blues-in-my-jazz-You-got-jazz-in-my-blues night out. The Green Mill is still going, til late. It's 1 block west of the Lawrence stop on the Red line. http://www.greenmilljazz.com/ Jazz Showcase is where big jazz names passing through tend to play; tends towards more traditional/bop/"Wynton-y" stuff. It's just north of the Loop. http://www.jazzshowcase.com/ Andy's is supposed to be good, though I've never been there, and is also just north of the Loop. http://www.andysjazzclub.com/ The New Apartment Lounge is way off the beaten track and apparently only has jazz on Tuesdays, but I've heard praise for it. Never been there myself, can't vouch for the neighborhood or give directions. http://centerstagechicago.com/music/clubs/new-apartment.html The Velvet Lounge is the place that would be nearest to IIT (2 blocks east of the Chinatown Red line stop), but they just closed their old space and still haven't opened the new one. (Just in case anyone's heard of it and wanted to go.) http://www.velvetlounge.net/ From fish-yapc at uc.org Mon Jun 19 16:44:55 2006 From: fish-yapc at uc.org (Eric Maki) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] some blues & jazz recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: Wow. Okay, that's... almost too much choice. Thanks all. I put up a page for opinions and names for Saturday night Blues: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SaturdayNightBlues Looks like things likely get started around 9:30-ish, I've suggested Kingston Mines as a first idea. Argument and discussion can redirect to the wiki. Naturally, we needn't go as a group, but if a group can agree, then a group shall there be. Eric From frag at ripco.com Mon Jun 19 16:48:09 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] some blues & jazz recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: 2 more for jazz: The Immediate Sound series, Wednesday night only at the Hideout: the Jeb Bishop Trio. http://www.hideoutchicago.com/descriptions.html#IMMEDIATE Elastic has various experimental stuff, with improv jazz on Thursdays: http://www.elasticrevolution.com/ From glenn at easy-access.com Mon Jun 19 21:56:55 2006 From: glenn at easy-access.com (Glenn Bushee) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:56:55 -1200 Subject: [yapc] Lakefront path, was Re: Safe spots for road bike at IIT? In-Reply-To: References: <5333356.1150757004320.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: Broken in 17 places?! Obviously his aim was off then. I try to take the approach of a top rock climber when asked, "Aren't you afraid of falling?". His reply, "Every minute." You sometimes have to be more paranoid on the bike paths than the road with cars. Thanks for all of the comments. Weather permitting, I'll give the path a go on a mountain bike -- I'll just tune up the brakes before leaving. - Glenn On 6/19/06, Uri Guttman wrote: > > >>>>> "EC" == Elizabeth Cortell writes: > > EC> The path south of downtown is *much* less crowded than the north > EC> side. A former boss had his leg broken in 17 places when he > EC> collided with a rollerblader on the north path. That said, > EC> alertness is advised when navigating leisure cyclists, road > EC> racers, rollerbladers, power walkers, joggers, dog walkers, > EC> aimless amblers, and geese. > > sounds like we really need a "I Survived biking on the Lakefront path > during YAPC::NA 2006 in Chicago" t-shirts! :-) > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- > http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and > Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- > http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060619/4ad2af6e/attachment.html From ingy at ttul.org Mon Jun 19 22:18:48 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:18:48 -0700 Subject: [yapc] some blues & jazz recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: <20060620051848.GB25924@ttul.org> Would somebody summarize the Jazz stuff on the wiki? On 19/06/06 18:48 -0500, Mike Fragassi wrote: > > 2 more for jazz: > > The Immediate Sound series, Wednesday night only at the Hideout: > the Jeb Bishop Trio. > http://www.hideoutchicago.com/descriptions.html#IMMEDIATE > > Elastic has various experimental stuff, with improv jazz on Thursdays: > http://www.elasticrevolution.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ingy at ttul.org Mon Jun 19 22:20:22 2006 From: ingy at ttul.org (Ingy dot Net) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:20:22 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Jazz and blues In-Reply-To: <16296517.1150759026146.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> References: <16296517.1150759026146.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: <20060620052022.GC25924@ttul.org> On 19/06/06 16:17 -0700, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > I have added Blues and Jazz sections to the the ThingsToDo page, including links to the Chicago Reader's listings for each genre. Thanks Elizabeth! Scratch my last post then. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ccf3 at mindspring.com Mon Jun 19 22:27:19 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:27:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] F*** blues... Jazz! References: <20060619214606.GD20498@ttul.org> Message-ID: <44978737.7020901@mindspring.com> Ingy dot Net wrote: >...In my best Dennis Hopper from Blue Velvet voice... > >I'm definitely interesting in going to my old haunt, the Green Mill. Old >Capone hangout that hasn't changed much since then. Live Jazz until 4am or >later... > >Any other suggestions for Jazz clubs? > I have no specifics, but I've heard that many New Orleans jazz musicians are waiting things out in Chicago. From Thomas.Allison at ONSTAR.com Tue Jun 20 08:34:35 2006 From: Thomas.Allison at ONSTAR.com (Allison, Thomas) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:34:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <54112.68.20.14.131.1150401163.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <130B08C139FCF44ABD3B545F0294D74302F5CEA8@USRN4EX0ONS02.onstar.ad.gm.com> How bout they wear funny hats? -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+thomas.allison=onstar.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+thomas.allison=onstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elias Lutfallah Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 PM To: Andy Lester Cc: Todd Olson; yapc-general at perl.org; yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] A word of caution Maybe we should make up some nametags for Chicago pm-ers that say "I'm a local!" People could then use the locals for advise or as a buddy for safer, smarter travel. >> I have been researching the immediate area of IIT for restaurants, >> groceries and such. I have recently talked with two men, one who >> currently lives in the area and another one who grew up there. Both >> of them have STRONGLY CAUTIONED me about wandering around the area, >> particularly to the south and east. They say doing so presents a >> serious risk of being assaulted. > > Yes, this is the case. The one problem with this year's YAPC is that > it's not one where we're going to be hanging out in the neighborhood > at night. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From yapc at galumph.com Tue Jun 20 10:12:08 2006 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:12:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA::2006 iCalendar Message-ID: <44982C68.3040505@galumph.com> In trying to decide which sessions to attend, I transcribed the schedule to iCalendar format (well, I used Apple iCal and exported). If anyone finds such a thing useful, it can be found at http://galumph.com/ical/public/YAPC::NA::2006.ics The URLs for the events point to the abstracts for each session, which have also been copied into the body of the events. If presenters have URLs for slides, notes, or other material, I'd like to change the event URLs to point to those. The calendar includes the only BOF that seems to have a fixed time. If other BOFs finally settle on when/where they're going to be, I'll add them. Corrections and additions encouraged. From josh at yapcchicago.org Tue Jun 20 10:25:31 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:25:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] YAPC::NA::2006 iCalendar In-Reply-To: <44982C68.3040505@galumph.com> References: <44982C68.3040505@galumph.com> Message-ID: <44982F8B.70407@yapcchicago.org> > In trying to decide which sessions to attend, I transcribed the schedule to iCalendar format (well, I used Apple iCal and exported). If anyone finds such a thing useful, it can be found at http://galumph.com/ical/public/YAPC::NA::2006.ics Thanks Elliot!!!! Pete put together on on http://calendar.google.com for those who are using Google calendar. It should come up in a search for YAPC NA From pudge at perl.org Tue Jun 20 11:42:17 2006 From: pudge at perl.org (Chris Nandor) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:42:17 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Jam! Message-ID: So, we're going to have a Jam BOF at YAPC. At some point. May be impromptu. But bring your instruments. So far we have an acoustic and an electric guitar lined up. -- Chris Nandor pudge at pobox.com http://pudge.net/ Open Source Technology Group pudge at ostg.com http://ostg.com/ From kent at c2group.net Tue Jun 20 11:51:12 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:51:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Jam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060620135049.N43080@atbash.c2group.net> Even though I'm local, I wouldn't lug an amp along (even if I still had one). I'd bring an acoustic... On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Chris Nandor wrote: > So, we're going to have a Jam BOF at YAPC. At some point. May be > impromptu. But bring your instruments. So far we have an acoustic and an > electric guitar lined up. > > -- > Chris Nandor pudge at pobox.com http://pudge.net/ > Open Source Technology Group pudge at ostg.com http://ostg.com/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From zrusilla at mac.com Tue Jun 20 12:26:40 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:26:40 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Jam! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6740998.1150831600113.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> I have a few jars of my homemade cherry preserves left. Oh. Never mind. Chris Nandor wrote: >So, we're going to have a Jam BOF at YAPC. At some point. May be >impromptu. But bring your instruments. So far we have an acoustic and an >electric guitar lined up. From jhd at interguru.com Tue Jun 20 12:55:34 2006 From: jhd at interguru.com (Joe Davidson) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:55:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] A word of caution In-Reply-To: <20060615185034.P87517@atbash.c2group.net> References: <49d805d70606150729yf074956qc56f2d89a599ef3d@mail.gmail.com> <44917B8F.60706@codefix.net> <44918132.6040600@yapcchicago.org> <4491DB61.1090805@mindspring.com> <4491DD45.4000809@jgcinteractive.com> <4491DEF4.7010903@yapcchicago.org> <20060615173429.T87517@atbash.c2group.net> <75c1d03e0606151648t1141fda0n24c3f5b15b0025ce@mail.gmail.com> <20060615185034.P87517@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <75c1d03e0606201255i56a76f6co63efe0acc9e553b9@mail.gmail.com> I am arriving at 9:15pm on Sunday from American Airlines Terminal 3. My cell phone is 301 518 8632, my handle is JoeDavidson. I will either share a cab or take the el with anyone who wants to come along. On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Depends on what airline you're taking, that'll route you to one of three > different terminals United -> terminal 1, Delta and some others -> > terminal 3, something else -> terminal 2. International flights, terminal > 5. > > I'd recommend exchanging cell phone numbers and trying to meet near > baggage claim of terminal X. If arriving at different terminals, they're > arranged in a horseshoe: > > 2 > 3 1 > > (with terminal 5 being separate, requiring a tram ride to the other > terminals). > > So pick whatever's in the middle :) > > Caution, if there's a small group looking to share a cab, DO NOT ask for > the "shared ride" option - it'll be a fixed price, but even though there > will be one stop, the price will be per person (unless you're better at > negotiating than I am) - so what would've cost $40-$50 plus tip split 3-4 > ways, is now $160 or so. > > (The shared ride is useful when several strangers are going to several > destinations. Still a fixed price, but sometimes helps if there's a long > line of people waiting for cabs) > > -Kent > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Davidson wrote: > > > I'm arriving at 9:15 and others are arriving about that time. Does > anyone > > know O'Hare enough to suggest a place to meet and either take the L > together > > or share a cab? > > > > Joe Davidson > > > > On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > > > > > I'm not 100% sure about Midway, but with O'Hare there will be NO > problems > > > getting a cab - their cab stands are pretty well stocked at most > > > reasonable hours of the day. > > > > > > The cab stands are clearly marked with arrows on signs near the > baggage > > > claim area. Just go outside and look for a long line of cabs. > > > > > > Take the first one available. Unless there's already a line of > people. > > > > > > But as mentioned elsewhere, (or maybe not) - $44+ for a cab ride, or > $2.50 > > > for the L... I can only recommend a cab if you're really impatient, > and > > > don't mind paying +40 to save 20-30 minutes. > > > > > > -Kent > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > > > > > Anyone want to share a cab? > > > > > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > > > > > > > I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is > one > > > > company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB > > > > > > > > There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the > > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > > person. > > > > > > > > There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the > > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joe Davidson > > Silver Spring, MD > > www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm > > truespel.com/en > > > -- Joe Davidson Silver Spring, MD www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm truespel.com/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Depends on what airline you're taking, that'll route you to one of three > different terminals United -> terminal 1, Delta and some others -> > terminal 3, something else -> terminal 2. International flights, terminal > 5. > > I'd recommend exchanging cell phone numbers and trying to meet near > baggage claim of terminal X. If arriving at different terminals, they're > arranged in a horseshoe: > > 2 > 3 1 > > (with terminal 5 being separate, requiring a tram ride to the other > terminals). > > So pick whatever's in the middle :) > > Caution, if there's a small group looking to share a cab, DO NOT ask for > the "shared ride" option - it'll be a fixed price, but even though there > will be one stop, the price will be per person (unless you're better at > negotiating than I am) - so what would've cost $40-$50 plus tip split 3-4 > ways, is now $160 or so. > > (The shared ride is useful when several strangers are going to several > destinations. Still a fixed price, but sometimes helps if there's a long > line of people waiting for cabs) > > -Kent > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Davidson wrote: > > > I'm arriving at 9:15 and others are arriving about that time. Does > anyone > > know O'Hare enough to suggest a place to meet and either take the L > together > > or share a cab? > > > > Joe Davidson > > > > On 6/15/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > > > > > I'm not 100% sure about Midway, but with O'Hare there will be NO > problems > > > getting a cab - their cab stands are pretty well stocked at most > > > reasonable hours of the day. > > > > > > The cab stands are clearly marked with arrows on signs near the > baggage > > > claim area. Just go outside and look for a long line of cabs. > > > > > > Take the first one available. Unless there's already a line of > people. > > > > > > But as mentioned elsewhere, (or maybe not) - $44+ for a cab ride, or > $2.50 > > > for the L... I can only recommend a cab if you're really impatient, > and > > > don't mind paying +40 to save 20-30 minutes. > > > > > > -Kent > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Josh McAdams wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm arriving by Air Canada at about 8:20 PM. > > > > > Anyone want to share a cab? > > > > > Any idea what a cab from O'Hare to IIT would cost? > > > > > > > > I just called. For everyone who is possibly taking a cab, there is > one > > > > company with a number that is pretty easy to remember: 312-TAXICAB > > > > > > > > There rates from O'Hare to IIT are approximately $44 + 2.25 for the > > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > > person. > > > > > > > > There rates from Midway to IIT are approximately $35 + 2.25 for the > > > > first person + 1.00 for the second person + 0.50 for each additional > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > yapc mailing list > > > > yapc at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joe Davidson > > Silver Spring, MD > > www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm > > truespel.com/en > > > -- Joe Davidson Silver Spring, MD www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm truespel.com/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So far we have an acoustic and an > > electric guitar lined up. > > Does anybody want to buy my double bass a plane ticket and a travel > case? ;-) > > Yuval Kogman Buy me a free seat, and I'll bring along my Indian sitar, whose case is 5 feet long and very unwieldy. For 6 years I regularly biked on icy roads in Toronto while holding the case's handle with one hand--trying not to slide under too many buses--so it's a miracle we're both still in one piece! -Tim P.S. I have Ravi Shankar's autograph on the back of my Viet Nam era draft card--no kidding! ============================================================== | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)TeachMePerl.com | | SPUG Leader Emeritus spug(AT)TeachMePerl.com | | Seattle Perl Users Group http://www.SeattlePerl.org | | SPUG Wiki Site http://Mediawiki.seattleperl.org | ============================================================== From jbisbee at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 01:09:21 2006 From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:09:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] FYI - Mailman privacy alert Message-ID: We kind of have a crude was of signing folks up for the yapc mailing list so my appologies for those of you getting these privacy alerts. You'll get one if you register to YAPC and you're already on the mailing list with the same address. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- An attempt was made to subscribe your address to the mailing list yapc at pm.org. You are already subscribed to this mailing list. Note that the list membership is not public, so it is possible that a bad person was trying to probe the list for its membership. This would be a privacy violation if we let them do this, but we didn't. If you submitted the subscription request and forgot that you were already subscribed to the list, then you can ignore this message. If you suspect that an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are a member of this list, and you are worried about your privacy, then feel free to send a message to the list administrator at yapc-owner at pm.org. -- Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.com From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Wed Jun 21 07:42:31 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:42:31 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Camera etiquette Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Does anyone have anything to offer as "picture taking etiquette" advice? I plan on taking several pictures at YAPC, but I don't want to be known as the jerk who was taking pictures during times when he shouldn't have. Jeremy Jeremy Fluhmann Programmer/Analyst Memorial Student Center Texas A&M University 979-845-8893 jeremy at msc.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060621/5110a112/attachment.html From tobert at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 07:57:12 2006 From: tobert at gmail.com (Al Tobey) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:57:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Jam! In-Reply-To: <20060621021253.GA16468@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> References: <20060621010802.GP12121@woobling.org> <20060621021253.GA16468@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <5ac7acb10606210757p1ce89250oa9a8c8d7954d69a6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/20/06, Tim Maher wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 04:08:02AM +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 11:42:17 -0700, Chris Nandor wrote: > > > So, we're going to have a Jam BOF at YAPC. At some point. May be > > > impromptu. But bring your instruments. So far we have an acoustic and an > > > electric guitar lined up. > > > > Does anybody want to buy my double bass a plane ticket and a travel > > case? ;-) > > > > Yuval Kogman > > Buy me a free seat, and I'll bring along my Indian sitar, > whose case is 5 feet long and very unwieldy. For 6 years I > regularly biked on icy roads in Toronto while holding the > case's handle with one hand--trying not to slide under too > many buses--so it's a miracle we're both still in one piece! I know the feeling. I used to ride a bike about five miles to trombone lessons in high school. If I were a little older, I'd say it was uphill both ways, but it was actually pretty flat. It really sucked when it rained, but at least I didn't have to deal with ice! >From what I know of the sitar, it is a difficult instrument to learn and even harder to master. It's too bad it doesn't travel better. I know I wouldn't check my trombone and it's not even a particularly nice one. If anybody warns me before they bring their trombone/euphonium/bassoon/anything in C/bass clef, I'll bring mine and some duets. I can also dig up my Jamie Abersold CD if people want to tool around with Jazz improv. -Al Tobey -- The definition of a gentleman is somebody who can play the trombone, but doesn't. > -Tim > P.S. I have Ravi Shankar's autograph on the back of my Viet Nam > era draft card--no kidding! Cool! > ============================================================== > | Tim Maher, Ph.D. tim(AT)TeachMePerl.com | > | SPUG Leader Emeritus spug(AT)TeachMePerl.com | > | Seattle Perl Users Group http://www.SeattlePerl.org | > | SPUG Wiki Site http://Mediawiki.seattleperl.org | > ============================================================== > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 08:13:49 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:13:49 -0400 Subject: [yapc] FYI - Mailman privacy alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d805d70606210813ge548ed0h33882ee00ef77927@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I had some people who didn't accept the first time I had subscribed them and then they realized that they wanted to be on the list. I just re-ran everyone through to give people a second chance to get on. On 6/21/06, Jeff Bisbee wrote: > We kind of have a crude was of signing folks up for the yapc mailing > list so my appologies for those of you getting these privacy alerts. > You'll get one if you register to YAPC and you're already on the > mailing list with the same address. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > An attempt was made to subscribe your address to the mailing list > yapc at pm.org. You are already subscribed to this mailing list. > > Note that the list membership is not public, so it is possible that a bad > person was trying to probe the list for its membership. This would be a > privacy violation if we let them do this, but we didn't. > > If you submitted the subscription request and forgot that you were already > subscribed to the list, then you can ignore this message. If you suspect that > an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are a member of this > list, and you are worried about your privacy, then feel free to send a message > to the list administrator at yapc-owner at pm.org. > > > -- > Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.com > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From chip at pobox.com Wed Jun 21 08:20:11 2006 From: chip at pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:20:11 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Camera etiquette In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <20060621152011.GC31285@tytlal.topaz.cx> On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:42:31AM -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Does anyone have anything to offer as "picture taking etiquette" advice? > I plan on taking several pictures at YAPC, but I don't want to be known > as the jerk who was taking pictures during times when he shouldn't have. Generally, restroom stalls are considered off limits, though the main body of the restroom is fair game. -- Chip Salzenberg From robindarby at mac.com Wed Jun 21 09:33:40 2006 From: robindarby at mac.com (Robin Darby) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:33:40 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Camera etiquette In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: On 21 Jun 2006, at 15:42, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Does anyone have anything to offer as ?picture taking etiquette? > advice? I plan on taking several pictures at YAPC, but I don?t > want to be known as the jerk who was taking pictures during times > when he shouldn?t have. Common decency to pay your models before the shoot starts ;) From zrusilla at mac.com Wed Jun 21 11:51:08 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:51:08 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF Message-ID: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> The distaff side is poorly represented at tech conferences. Ladies, let's do lunch and talk about life as a geek grrrl. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?WomenBOF From jt at plainblack.com Wed Jun 21 11:54:56 2006 From: jt at plainblack.com (JT Smith) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:54:56 -0500 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> References: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: > The distaff side is poorly represented at tech conferences. Ladies, let's do lunch and >talk about life as a geek grrrl. > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?WomenBOF What? Women are invited to YAPC? That's it. I'm not coming! =) JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage From zrusilla at mac.com Wed Jun 21 11:57:41 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:57:41 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: References: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: <9845558.1150916261545.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Spoken like a true geek. Now run along--World of Warcraft is calling. >What? Women are invited to YAPC? That's it. I'm not coming! =) > > >JT ~ Plain Black > From zrusilla at mac.com Wed Jun 21 11:58:17 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:58:17 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <20060621185500.GC28716@panix.com> References: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <20060621185500.GC28716@panix.com> Message-ID: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> We'll be selling the video for $35 apiece. >I don't suppose you want unfemale observers. hrmf. :-) From kira.blume.cxtm at statefarm.com Wed Jun 21 12:02:17 2006 From: kira.blume.cxtm at statefarm.com (Kira Blume) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:02:17 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> When geeks go wild and servers crash?? Kira Blume ECM-FileNET Imaging Support (WG2787) (309) 763-8098 L-3, #346 (309) 646-2918 pager kira.blume.cxtm at statefarm.com http://sfnet.opr.statefarm.org/content/sysedms/IDMIS/index.shtml -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+kira.blume.cxtm=statefarm.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+kira.blume.cxtm=statefarm.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Cortell Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:58 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] WomenBOF We'll be selling the video for $35 apiece. >I don't suppose you want unfemale observers. hrmf. :-) _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From zrusilla at mac.com Wed Jun 21 12:18:24 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:18:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> References: <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> Message-ID: <7650912.1150917504276.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> "Real Girls Hacking Perl!" >When geeks go wild and servers crash?? > >We'll be selling the video for $35 apiece. > >>I don't suppose you want unfemale observers. hrmf. :-) > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Wed Jun 21 12:46:55 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:46:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <9845558.1150916261545.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> References: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9845558.1150916261545.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: <449969F0.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Naw, DAOC. Bill >>> Elizabeth Cortell 6/21/2006 2:57 pm >>> Spoken like a true geek. Now run along--World of Warcraft is calling. >What? Women are invited to YAPC? That's it. I'm not coming! =) > > >JT ~ Plain Black > _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From dagolden at cpan.org Wed Jun 21 13:14:12 2006 From: dagolden at cpan.org (David Golden) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:14:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Camera etiquette In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <4499A894.2080503@cpan.org> Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Does anyone have anything to offer as ?picture taking etiquette? > advice? I plan on taking several pictures at YAPC, but I don?t want to > be known as the jerk who was taking pictures during times when he > shouldn?t have. Generally, I'd say that you should try to be unobtrusive. If you wander into the middle of a talk, walk to the front, spent 30 seconds trying to get a good angle, and fire off several flash photos, you're going to pretty much distract everyone around you and possibly the speaker as well. That would pretty much classify you as "the jerk". For candids, again, be unobtrusive and also use judgment and consideration for others. Some people may feel that taking candid pictures of them is an invasion of their privacy, particularly if you intend to "publish" them. If you're documenting an event, taking casual pictures, you're on safer ground than if you're looking to take pictures of people in an unflattering or embarrassing light. (IANAL, but while public picture taking is almost always legally protected, YAPC::NA is a private function that probably has the right to restrict the images/recordings of its events. I doubt that's an issue, but you should be aware before snapping your pictures.) Regards, David From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Wed Jun 21 13:34:17 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:34:17 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Camera etiquette Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3E9@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Thanks everyone for your advice and recommendations (both on and off list). I appreciate it! Jeremy From shijialee at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 14:09:54 2006 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:09:54 -0400 Subject: [yapc] yapc room sharing Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0606211409s2755c694s20ba9beefa0a7ad7@mail.gmail.com> due to late registration, i have missed the on-campus dorm. though i have found a hotel not too far from the IIT campus but i prefer to stay with others on campus. if anyone have a room to share ( that would be the SSV double, I guess ) , please let me know. I will stay for sunday , monday and tuesday nights. btw, the hotel is amber inn that is just a little south-east of IIT campus. anyone staying there? James. From scott at slowass.net Wed Jun 21 14:44:09 2006 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:44:09 +0000 Subject: [yapc] yapc room sharing In-Reply-To: <20060621213423.GF15619@illogics.org> References: <4ab5ddef0606211409s2755c694s20ba9beefa0a7ad7@mail.gmail.com> <20060621213423.GF15619@illogics.org> Message-ID: <20060621214409.GL7832@illogics.org> Hi James, I was kind of trolling this list (as in low-powered motoring, not flame baiting) waiting to see if a Wiki page of room shares would come up. I've got a double for Monday and Tuesday nights and no roommate as of yet. Sounds like you'd still need something for Sunday night too, something else on http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?OfficialSSVDoubleResidents might work better. A lot more people are staying three nights than two nights... H Bair, P Cory, S Sorichetti, T Olson. On the other hand, if I get the chance to bring any llamas back to my room, it'll be easier not having a roommate. Have you booked the Amber Inn yet? Cheers, -scott On 0, "Qiang (James) Li" wrote: > due to late registration, i have missed the on-campus dorm. though i > have found a hotel not too far from the IIT campus but i prefer to > stay with others on campus. > > if anyone have a room to share ( that would be the SSV double, I > guess ) , please let me know. I will stay for sunday , monday and > tuesday nights. > > btw, the hotel is amber inn that is just a little south-east of IIT > campus. anyone staying there? > > James. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From nothingmuch at woobling.org Wed Jun 21 14:32:33 2006 From: nothingmuch at woobling.org (Yuval Kogman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:32:33 +0300 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> References: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> Message-ID: <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 12:02:17 -0700, Kira Blume wrote: > When geeks go wild and servers crash?? == slightly NSFW == see also http://hysteria.sk/maniac/unixsex.com/ (the domain seems down). -- Yuval Kogman http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd say it's more than slightly NSFW. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From dada.da at gmail.com Wed Jun 21 14:48:10 2006 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:48:10 -0400 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> References: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> Message-ID: I would say that site is more than slightly NSFW, by any standard definition of NSFW. -Daniel On 6/21/06, Yuval Kogman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 12:02:17 -0700, Kira Blume wrote: > > When geeks go wild and servers crash?? > > == slightly NSFW == > > see also http://hysteria.sk/maniac/unixsex.com/ (the domain seems > down). > > > -- > Yuval Kogman > http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 From nothingmuch at woobling.org Wed Jun 21 15:05:25 2006 From: nothingmuch at woobling.org (Yuval Kogman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:05:25 +0300 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: References: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> Message-ID: <20060621220525.GU12121@woobling.org> On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 16:44:39 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I'd say it's more than slightly NSFW. Urf, you're right.. I never noticed the front page since it didn't come first on google... sorry -- Yuval Kogman http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060622/ce3edddb/attachment-0001.bin From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Jun 21 15:33:36 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 21 Jun 2006 15:33:36 -0700 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: References: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> Message-ID: <864pye3zr3.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Allen writes: Daniel> I would say that site is more than slightly NSFW, by any standard Daniel> definition of NSFW. Perhaps if your workplace is playboy.com ? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From hwigoda at mindspring.com Wed Jun 21 15:34:18 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:34:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> References: <6946649.1150915868898.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <20060621185500.GC28716@panix.com> <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Message-ID: now i want a copy of that.... On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > We'll be selling the video for $35 apiece. > >> I don't suppose you want unfemale observers. hrmf. :-) > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 21 16:04:28 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:04:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] WomenBOF In-Reply-To: <864pye3zr3.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <1190375.1150916297104.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> <9321A73F77470E4CB44903D606D20719013492EF@WPSCV6MQ.OPR.STATEFARM.ORG> <20060621213233.GS12121@woobling.org> <864pye3zr3.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <8CDE881C-C23B-414A-9AF5-437F9B78BB2E@petdance.com> On Jun 21, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Daniel> I would say that site is more than slightly NSFW, by any > standard > Daniel> definition of NSFW. > > Perhaps if your workplace is playboy.com ? :) For Liz, who started this thread, it was in the past. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From uri at stemsystems.com Wed Jun 21 19:31:19 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:31:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] final arrival dinner signup Message-ID: ok, we have arrived at the deadline to sign up for the arrival dinner. i have to call in the guaranteed head count on thursday. we now have 86 + 3 probables which is nicely above the 80 minimum. so if you have the intention of joining us (vs those drunken revolutionary bums of the anti-arrival dinner. notice how smoothly their plans are coming together! :), then sign up now or forever regret not coming to this event! http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner stragglers and walk-ins are welcome but you will be more welcomed if you sign in now! thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From johncwang at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 01:20:35 2006 From: johncwang at gmail.com (John Wang) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:20:35 -0700 Subject: [yapc] The Official Tag of YAPC::NA 2006 - yapcna2006 In-Reply-To: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> References: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <22a4faec0606220120i4228534cte61778768e0ac6a9@mail.gmail.com> On 6/19/06, Josh McAdams wrote: > > In order to catch all of the talk about YAPC, we are asking that you > use the tag 'yapcna2006' when tagging your entries and that you add your > blog or website to our list of attendee blogs at > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AttendeeBlogs. Also, let us > know where you are putting your tags, be it flickr, del.icio.us, or > whatever. Could there be an offical blog badge image for the conference? I edited one from another conference and put it on my blog ( http://dev411.blogspot.com/) in the upper right corner but it'd be better if there was one themed for YAPC::NA. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060622/114f09f3/attachment.html From MichaelRWolf at att.net Thu Jun 22 05:16:37 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:16:37 -0400 Subject: [yapc] It takes a village... I'm a villager! Ergo, where do my ergs go? Message-ID: I'd love to pitch in and help out. I can even arrive Saturday (or Friday) to do so. How do I plug in to the cadre of Perlers who are linguists and getting the job done? -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 22 06:51:43 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Josh McAdams) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:51:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] It takes a village... I'm a villager! Ergo, where do my ergs go? In-Reply-To: <20060622121759.9785A17876@x6.develooper.com> References: <20060622121759.9785A17876@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <449AA06F.2030006@yapcchicago.org> > I'd love to pitch in and help out. I can even arrive Saturday (or Friday) > to do so. How do I plug in to the cadre of Perlers who are linguists and > getting the job done? There are a group of us meeting up at Herman Hall on Sunday at 3. We'll be making sure that wireless and AV are working, as well, as sifting through the conference swag. If that's what you were looking to help do, stop by :) From jira0004 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 08:54:32 2006 From: jira0004 at yahoo.com (Peter Jirak) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] Pick up registration and stuff... Message-ID: <20060622155432.38610.qmail@web33913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, Okay, before there had been something on the wiki about being able to pick up conference registration on Sunday evening before 10 PM. But, now I can't find it. Can some one send me something about picking up our registration for the conference. Thanks, Regards, Peter Jirak E: jira0004 at yahoo.com From jose.castro at log.pt Thu Jun 22 09:11:51 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:11:51 +0100 Subject: [yapc] The Official Tag of YAPC::NA 2006 - yapcna2006 In-Reply-To: <22a4faec0606220120i4228534cte61778768e0ac6a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> <22a4faec0606220120i4228534cte61778768e0ac6a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3d8249b931f794f8883ad6fd14ea0bc6@log.pt> On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:20 AM, John Wang wrote: > On 6/19/06, Josh McAdams wrote: >> >> use the tag 'yapcna2006' when tagging your entries and that you add >> your >> blog or website to our list of attendee blogs at >> http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AttendeeBlogs.??Also, let >> us >> know where you are putting your tags, be it flickr, del.icio.us, or >> whatever. > Could there be an offical blog badge image for the conference? I > edited one from another conference and put it on my blog ( > http://dev411.blogspot.com/ ) in the upper right corner but it'd be > better if there was one themed for YAPC::NA. Hey, maybe it's my browser, but since the badge was put up on the YAPC site, the menu seems to be a little out of place, like... 2 inches lower. Shouldn't the badge be on the top right corner? I see it in the top, but in the middle of the page. If it's just my problem, feel free to ignore this message. jac PS: And back to work I go. > John > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What are you using? It looks OK now for me too (on Firefox 1.0.6, BTW) Did anyone did something, or was my browser feeling itself the stress of my personal life? :-) jac PS: Hum... probably my browser didn't reload the CSS the first few times around, and only now it did, finally positioning the banner at 0:0. ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From diona at knowmad.com Thu Jun 22 10:24:34 2006 From: diona at knowmad.com (Diona Kidd) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:24:34 -0400 Subject: [yapc] The Official Tag of YAPC::NA 2006 - yapcna2006 In-Reply-To: <80c38bbabb1572d42e7eaca781d85442@log.pt> References: <4496F667.3020700@yapcchicago.org> <22a4faec0606220120i4228534cte61778768e0ac6a9@mail.gmail.com> <3d8249b931f794f8883ad6fd14ea0bc6@log.pt> <49d805d70606220916p5144b944i6acc2af1d4f8884@mail.gmail.com> <80c38bbabb1572d42e7eaca781d85442@log.pt> Message-ID: <4E8A717B-1226-4AE0-A083-6DAC64AADBF1@knowmad.com> Looks great now. Tested on Safari Mac, FF (mac)... On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Jose Castro wrote: > > On Jun 22, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > >>> Hey, maybe it's my browser, but since the badge was put up on the >>> YAPC >>> site, the menu seems to be a little out of place, like... 2 inches >>> lower. >> >> It looks okay on my Firefox, IE, and Opera. I don't have Safari with >> me to test out. What are you using? > > It looks OK now for me too (on Firefox 1.0.6, BTW) > > Did anyone did something, or was my browser feeling itself the stress > of my personal life? :-) > > jac > > PS: Hum... probably my browser didn't reload the CSS the first few > times around, and only now it did, finally positioning the banner at > 0:0. > > > ------------------------------------------ > Jos? Castro > log > Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 > Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 > Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa > ------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 11:12:17 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:12:17 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner final count Message-ID: as of this moment, we have 96 + 6 probables signed up for the arrival dinner. i told goose island that we will have 100 guaranteed people at this event. most likely we will have a few more with walk-ins. note that if there isn't enough food (unlikely with buffets) for the walk-ins, they will have to starve since they didn't sign up. or they could order off the menu in the main restaurant. or they can join the anti-arrival dinner (whereever that may be held! :). in any case this should be fun. you will have fun. or else you won't. as socialist czar i guarantee it! and remember BRING CASH!!! credit cards are NOT fun to use in large groups like this. i will post/wiki soon about travel logistics to goose island so stay tuned. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 14:42:21 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:42:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding Message-ID: if you have ever been to a yapc arrival dinner, then you have experienced the thrill that is herding hackers through the rolling plains in a major city. so here is my super sekrit plan which you will tell no one else lest they actually arrive at the arrival dinner. can i trust you not to leak? we will meet in the lobby of one of the dorm's (which one is better for this?) before 6pm on sunday june 25 (that is 3 days from now!!). we will leave IO::Promptly at 6pm and migrate to the nearest redline El stop which is not far. we will need pathfinders who know the way and ropers to keep the stragglers from getting lost in the many deep river crossings. we can arm you with sharks with laser beams (every herder is given a laser courtesy of stonehenge!). we will get on a redline train and take it to the stop nearest goose island (the one for wrigley park as goose island is near there). we detrain (learning python counts as detraining) and go on a long forced march (about 4 blocks) to goose island. we should be able to herd you all over there by 7pm. there is little leeway for error. if you do not follow the herd you may be exposed to the real world which can be very painful. so stay near your fellow mongers on this trip. after the arrival dinner, you can join the anti-arrival dinner crowd in their anarchist revelries! you can crawl or EL your way home or elsewhere on your own. we have the room from 7-9pm but they will not shoot you if you dawdle. they just request you crawl over to the main bar area or outside at a reasonable time. good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). but we don't have to pay the sales tax. $30 might be a touch over the total bill so you can either donate then extra buck or two to tpf (hey we can make a profit on the arrival dinner!) or you can be a cheap bastard and ask for your refund. and we won't announce the names of anyone asking for a refund! and if we have some laptops there (gosh, think there might be one or two in this crowd?) we can accept payment by credit card to the tpf donation site. but cash will still be better and easier. another reason for the $30 figure is to keep it easy :). and remember, you will have fun or else! your chairman of the federal yapc reserve fund, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From jjm at dcp.ufl.edu Thu Jun 22 15:04:49 2006 From: jjm at dcp.ufl.edu (Jim Martinez) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> How much for kids to attend the arrival dinner, say a 6 year old and a 2 year old? Just Another Proud Papa, Zenitram On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Uri "Gutt" Guttman wrote: > > if you have ever been to a yapc arrival dinner, then you have > experienced the thrill that is herding hackers through the rolling > plains in a major city. so here is my super sekrit plan which you will > tell no one else lest they actually arrive at the arrival dinner. can i > trust you not to leak? > > we will meet in the lobby of one of the dorm's (which one is better for > this?) before 6pm on sunday june 25 (that is 3 days from now!!). we will > leave IO::Promptly at 6pm and migrate to the nearest redline El stop > which is not far. we will need pathfinders who know the way and ropers > to keep the stragglers from getting lost in the many deep river > crossings. we can arm you with sharks with laser beams (every herder is > given a laser courtesy of stonehenge!). we will get on a redline train > and take it to the stop nearest goose island (the one for wrigley park > as goose island is near there). we detrain (learning python counts as > detraining) and go on a long forced march (about 4 blocks) to goose > island. we should be able to herd you all over there by 7pm. there is > little leeway for error. if you do not follow the herd you may be > exposed to the real world which can be very painful. so stay near your > fellow mongers on this trip. > > after the arrival dinner, you can join the anti-arrival dinner crowd in > their anarchist revelries! you can crawl or EL your way home or > elsewhere on your own. we have the room from 7-9pm but they will not > shoot you if you dawdle. they just request you crawl over to the main > bar area or outside at a reasonable time. > > good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing > as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but > this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose > island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should > cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the > bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). but we don't > have to pay the sales tax. $30 might be a touch over the total bill so > you can either donate then extra buck or two to tpf (hey we can make a > profit on the arrival dinner!) or you can be a cheap bastard and ask for > your refund. and we won't announce the names of anyone asking for a > refund! and if we have some laptops there (gosh, think there might be > one or two in this crowd?) we can accept payment by credit card to the > tpf donation site. but cash will still be better and easier. another > reason for the $30 figure is to keep it easy :). > > and remember, you will have fun or else! > > your chairman of the federal yapc reserve fund, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 15:07:27 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:07:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> (Jim Martinez's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:04:49 -0400 (EDT)") References: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "JM" == Jim Martinez writes: JM> How much for kids to attend the arrival dinner, say a 6 year old JM> and a 2 year old? good question. i can't expect them to charge for the 2 yo. i will find out about the 6yo. but i will aim to have no charge for them and i bet that won't be difficult. if it is, you can just have your kids either put on cutesy or pouty faces or scream and cry until they get in free! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From kag at citysource.com Thu Jun 22 15:11:19 2006 From: kag at citysource.com (Kenneth A Graves) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:11:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 17:42, Uri Guttman wrote: > good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing > as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but > this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose > island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should > cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the > bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). And we buy our own drinks from the bar? Cash bar in the function room, or walk over to the main bar? I couldn't find pricing on a quick look through Goose Island's site. Am I safe in assuming the usual $4-5/pint for a brewpub? --kag From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 22 15:13:18 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:13:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> Message-ID: <20060622171304.G15796@atbash.c2group.net> That seems in line with my recollection. On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Kenneth A Graves wrote: > On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 17:42, Uri Guttman wrote: > > good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing > > as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but > > this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose > > island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should > > cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the > > bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). > > And we buy our own drinks from the bar? Cash bar in the function room, > or walk over to the main bar? > > I couldn't find pricing on a quick look through Goose Island's site. Am > I safe in assuming the usual $4-5/pint for a brewpub? > > --kag > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 15:15:09 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:15:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> (Kenneth A. Graves's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:11:19 -0400") References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "KAG" == Kenneth A Graves writes: KAG> On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 17:42, Uri Guttman wrote: >> good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing >> as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but >> this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose >> island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should >> cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the >> bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). KAG> And we buy our own drinks from the bar? Cash bar in the function room, KAG> or walk over to the main bar? our room has its own bar and i think 1 or more waitrons. KAG> I couldn't find pricing on a quick look through Goose Island's KAG> site. Am I safe in assuming the usual $4-5/pint for a brewpub? my guess too. and likely pitchers which will be cheaper by the dozen. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Jun 22 15:16:33 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:16:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <20060622171304.G15796@atbash.c2group.net> References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> <20060622171304.G15796@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <49d805d70606221516s195b75dfw13eb327d312131d7@mail.gmail.com> > That seems in line with my recollection. You're recollection after having how many of those pints? From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 22 15:21:10 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:21:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <49d805d70606221516s195b75dfw13eb327d312131d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> <20060622171304.G15796@atbash.c2group.net> <49d805d70606221516s195b75dfw13eb327d312131d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060622171858.K15796@atbash.c2group.net> I'll have you know my main goal for Sunday night is to fill more slots in my MBA passport. As I already have a few filled, I think it's drunk to say I was pretty fair at the time. -Kent On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > That seems in line with my recollection. > > You're recollection after having how many of those pints? > From waltman at pobox.com Thu Jun 22 15:22:02 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:22:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> Message-ID: <20060622222202.GA5476@mawode.com> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 06:15:09PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > our room has its own bar and i think 1 or more waitrons. Their website says they have 10 beers on tap. Will our room's bar have all 10 of them? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Will our room's bar WM> have all 10 of them? a confirmed yep. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From waltman at pobox.com Thu Jun 22 15:30:18 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:30:18 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <1151014280.8399.11.camel@kagnote.citysource.com> <20060622222202.GA5476@mawode.com> Message-ID: <20060622223018.GB5476@mawode.com> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 06:28:52PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "WM" == Walt Mankowski writes: > > WM> Their website says they have 10 beers on tap. Will our room's bar > WM> have all 10 of them? > > a confirmed yep. Yay! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060622/e26f9727/attachment.bin From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 15:30:22 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:30:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> (Jim Martinez's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:04:49 -0400 (EDT)") References: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "JM" == Jim Martinez writes: JM> How much for kids to attend the arrival dinner, say a 6 year old and a JM> 2 year old? not only are they free of charge, the rest of us will pay you to keep them home with a babysitter!! :) JM> Just Another Proud Papa, JM> Zenitram so bring them along and they can get plastered with the rest of us! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Thu Jun 22 16:26:10 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:26:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> >From the arrival times, it lookes like there may be a couple of us that might not make it to IIT before the 6:00p departure time. My flight is supposed to get in around 5:14p, and I know that flight arrival time accuracy can be like a weather forecast. I've been told that it might take around an hour to get from O'Hare to IIT. So, for those of us that might be a little late, does anyone want to suggest a secondary departure time? I'm not too worried about making the trip alone, but it would be nice to make the trip with a few more people. Jeremy ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org on behalf of Uri Guttman Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 4:42 PM To: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding if you have ever been to a yapc arrival dinner, then you have experienced the thrill that is herding hackers through the rolling plains in a major city. so here is my super sekrit plan which you will tell no one else lest they actually arrive at the arrival dinner. can i trust you not to leak? we will meet in the lobby of one of the dorm's (which one is better for this?) before 6pm on sunday june 25 (that is 3 days from now!!). we will leave IO::Promptly at 6pm and migrate to the nearest redline El stop which is not far. we will need pathfinders who know the way and ropers to keep the stragglers from getting lost in the many deep river crossings. we can arm you with sharks with laser beams (every herder is given a laser courtesy of stonehenge!). we will get on a redline train and take it to the stop nearest goose island (the one for wrigley park as goose island is near there). we detrain (learning python counts as detraining) and go on a long forced march (about 4 blocks) to goose island. we should be able to herd you all over there by 7pm. there is little leeway for error. if you do not follow the herd you may be exposed to the real world which can be very painful. so stay near your fellow mongers on this trip. after the arrival dinner, you can join the anti-arrival dinner crowd in their anarchist revelries! you can crawl or EL your way home or elsewhere on your own. we have the room from 7-9pm but they will not shoot you if you dawdle. they just request you crawl over to the main bar area or outside at a reasonable time. good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole thing as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! but this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling (goose island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this should cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). but we don't have to pay the sales tax. $30 might be a touch over the total bill so you can either donate then extra buck or two to tpf (hey we can make a profit on the arrival dinner!) or you can be a cheap bastard and ask for your refund. and we won't announce the names of anyone asking for a refund! and if we have some laptops there (gosh, think there might be one or two in this crowd?) we can accept payment by credit card to the tpf donation site. but cash will still be better and easier. another reason for the $30 figure is to keep it easy :). and remember, you will have fun or else! your chairman of the federal yapc reserve fund, uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060622/40c67072/attachment.html From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 17:40:25 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:40:25 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> (Jim Martinez's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:04:49 -0400 (EDT)") References: <20060622175832.N20005@pilkey.dcp.ufl.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "JM" == Jim Martinez writes: JM> How much for kids to attend the arrival dinner, say a 6 year old JM> and a 2 year old? the official word is no charge for monger spawn under 13. i like them younger than 13 anyway since they go better with buffalo or bbq sauce! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From frag at ripco.com Thu Jun 22 18:17:30 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: A modest proposal: Since people will be left to fend for themselves on returning, and it's a lot easier for people to retrace their steps than learn a 2nd new way their first hours in a new city, I suggest we depart on Sunday via the on-campus Green line stop, and transfer at Roosevelt to the Red line the rest of the way up to Addison. Walking to the Red line in the early sunlit evening in a big group while sober: fine. Walking from the Red line alone at night drunk: not necessarily so fine. -- Mike F. From dpisoni at shopzilla.com Thu Jun 22 19:57:07 2006 From: dpisoni at shopzilla.com (David Pisoni) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:57:07 -0700 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Perhaps we can have another group meet in the CQ (Michigan/Wacker) lobby at 6 ? doesn't really make sense for us to go all the way South to IIT then all the way North to this restaurant. We just need one Chicagoan to help (RichardDabrowski comes to mind... since he's a native but staying at the Hotel. Rich?) I'm dropping off my wife and kids at Union Station at 5pm, after which I'm gonna head back to CQ. It shouldn't take more than an hour to get from there to CQ, should it? Enjoy, David On Jun 22, 2006, at 16.26, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > From the arrival times, it lookes like there may be a couple of us > that might not make it to IIT before the 6:00p departure time. My > flight is supposed to get in around 5:14p, and I know that flight > arrival time accuracy can be like a weather forecast. I've been > told that it might take around an hour to get from O'Hare to IIT. > So, for those of us that might be a little late, does anyone want > to suggest a secondary departure time? I'm not too worried about > making the trip alone, but it would be nice to make the trip with a > few more people. > > Jeremy > > From: yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org on behalf of Uri Guttman > Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 4:42 PM > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding > > > if you have ever been to a yapc arrival dinner, then you have > experienced the thrill that is herding hackers through the rolling > plains in a major city. so here is my super sekrit plan which you will > tell no one else lest they actually arrive at the arrival dinner. > can i > trust you not to leak? > > we will meet in the lobby of one of the dorm's (which one is better > for > this?) before 6pm on sunday june 25 (that is 3 days from now!!). we > will > leave IO::Promptly at 6pm and migrate to the nearest redline El stop > which is not far. we will need pathfinders who know the way and ropers > to keep the stragglers from getting lost in the many deep river > crossings. we can arm you with sharks with laser beams (every > herder is > given a laser courtesy of stonehenge!). we will get on a redline train > and take it to the stop nearest goose island (the one for wrigley park > as goose island is near there). we detrain (learning python counts as > detraining) and go on a long forced march (about 4 blocks) to goose > island. we should be able to herd you all over there by 7pm. there is > little leeway for error. if you do not follow the herd you may be > exposed to the real world which can be very painful. so stay near your > fellow mongers on this trip. > > after the arrival dinner, you can join the anti-arrival dinner > crowd in > their anarchist revelries! you can crawl or EL your way home or > elsewhere on your own. we have the room from 7-9pm but they will not > shoot you if you dawdle. they just request you crawl over to the main > bar area or outside at a reasonable time. > > good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole > thing > as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for josh! > but > this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling > (goose > island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this > should > cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the > bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). but we don't > have to pay the sales tax. $30 might be a touch over the total bill so > you can either donate then extra buck or two to tpf (hey we can make a > profit on the arrival dinner!) or you can be a cheap bastard and > ask for > your refund. and we won't announce the names of anyone asking for a > refund! and if we have some laptops there (gosh, think there might be > one or two in this crowd?) we can accept payment by credit card to the > tpf donation site. but cash will still be better and easier. another > reason for the $30 figure is to keep it easy :). > > and remember, you will have fun or else! > > your chairman of the federal yapc reserve fund, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http:// > www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design > and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http:// > jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060622/3ef128ec/attachment-0001.html From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 22 20:20:38 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:20:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: <0D34F46D-A0EC-433A-A259-AF97A7E5EBE4@c2group.net> An hour only if traffic is very, very, very bad. Or if you're crawling ;) And on a Sunday? Ought to be really, really dead. By car, from Union Station to the CQ on Adams, 5 minutes. A little more for parking, etc. From Union Station to the CQ on Michigan, 7 minutes. A little more for parking, etc. This is assuming you have a decent map, and know of a parking garage near CQ (I'd assume there's an integral parking garage for each CQ location, but I'm not certain). Add a minute or two if you take a wrong turn. From memory, US is about 6-7 blocks at most to the nearer CQ, 9-11 to the further CQ. And here, blocks are an eighth of a mile on each side. If you're walking at a brisk pace, 11 or 18 minutes to either CQ. From CQ to GI by L (with some walking) will be about 30, give or take. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:57 PM, David Pisoni wrote: > Perhaps we can have another group meet in the CQ (Michigan/Wacker) > lobby at 6 ? doesn't really make sense for us to go all the way > South to IIT then all the way North to this restaurant. We just > need one Chicagoan to help (RichardDabrowski comes to mind... since > he's a native but staying at the Hotel. Rich?) > > I'm dropping off my wife and kids at Union Station at 5pm, after > which I'm gonna head back to CQ. It shouldn't take more than an > hour to get from there to CQ, should it? > > Enjoy, > David > > On Jun 22, 2006, at 16.26, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > >> From the arrival times, it lookes like there may be a couple of us >> that might not make it to IIT before the 6:00p departure time. My >> flight is supposed to get in around 5:14p, and I know that flight >> arrival time accuracy can be like a weather forecast. I've been >> told that it might take around an hour to get from O'Hare to IIT. >> So, for those of us that might be a little late, does anyone want >> to suggest a secondary departure time? I'm not too worried about >> making the trip alone, but it would be nice to make the trip with >> a few more people. >> >> Jeremy >> >> From: yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org on behalf of Uri >> Guttman >> Sent: Thu 6/22/2006 4:42 PM >> To: yapc at mail.pm.org >> Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding >> >> >> if you have ever been to a yapc arrival dinner, then you have >> experienced the thrill that is herding hackers through the rolling >> plains in a major city. so here is my super sekrit plan which you >> will >> tell no one else lest they actually arrive at the arrival dinner. >> can i >> trust you not to leak? >> >> we will meet in the lobby of one of the dorm's (which one is >> better for >> this?) before 6pm on sunday june 25 (that is 3 days from now!!). >> we will >> leave IO::Promptly at 6pm and migrate to the nearest redline El stop >> which is not far. we will need pathfinders who know the way and >> ropers >> to keep the stragglers from getting lost in the many deep river >> crossings. we can arm you with sharks with laser beams (every >> herder is >> given a laser courtesy of stonehenge!). we will get on a redline >> train >> and take it to the stop nearest goose island (the one for wrigley >> park >> as goose island is near there). we detrain (learning python counts as >> detraining) and go on a long forced march (about 4 blocks) to goose >> island. we should be able to herd you all over there by 7pm. there is >> little leeway for error. if you do not follow the herd you may be >> exposed to the real world which can be very painful. so stay near >> your >> fellow mongers on this trip. >> >> after the arrival dinner, you can join the anti-arrival dinner >> crowd in >> their anarchist revelries! you can crawl or EL your way home or >> elsewhere on your own. we have the room from 7-9pm but they will not >> shoot you if you dawdle. they just request you crawl over to the main >> bar area or outside at a reasonable time. >> >> good news on the payment setup. josh is going to pay for the whole >> thing >> as a yapc expense so we don't pay sales tax (9+%!!). yeah for >> josh! but >> this means we have to pay josh (or rather yapc). so we be selling >> (goose >> island required) wristbands at the door to the room for $30. this >> should >> cover everything (we got hit with a $75 server fee for the >> bartender/waitron since we didn't order a drink package). but we >> don't >> have to pay the sales tax. $30 might be a touch over the total >> bill so >> you can either donate then extra buck or two to tpf (hey we can >> make a >> profit on the arrival dinner!) or you can be a cheap bastard and >> ask for >> your refund. and we won't announce the names of anyone asking for a >> refund! and if we have some laptops there (gosh, think there might be >> one or two in this crowd?) we can accept payment by credit card to >> the >> tpf donation site. but cash will still be better and easier. another >> reason for the $30 figure is to keep it easy :). >> >> and remember, you will have fun or else! >> >> your chairman of the federal yapc reserve fund, >> >> uri >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http:// >> www.stemsystems.com >> --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design >> and Coding- >> Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http:// >> jobs.perl.org >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 20:35:15 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:35:15 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: (Mike Fragassi's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:17:30 -0500 (CDT)") References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "MF" == Mike Fragassi writes: MF> A modest proposal: Since people will be left to fend for themselves on MF> returning, and it's a lot easier for people to retrace their steps than MF> learn a 2nd new way their first hours in a new city, I suggest we depart MF> on Sunday via the on-campus Green line stop, and transfer at Roosevelt to MF> the Red line the rest of the way up to Addison. MF> Walking to the Red line in the early sunlit evening in a big group while MF> sober: fine. Walking from the Red line alone at night drunk: not MF> necessarily so fine. a valid proposal but when you herd hackers, a single train vs a transfer will be much easier and likely faster. i expect anyone who wants to use the 2 train route back (and i will likely be one of them!) can figure it out. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Thu Jun 22 20:41:43 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:41:43 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> (David Pisoni's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:57:07 -0700") References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "DP" == David Pisoni writes: DP> Perhaps we can have another group meet in the CQ (Michigan/Wacker) DP> lobby at 6 ? doesn't really make sense for us to go all the way DP> South to IIT then all the way North to this restaurant. We just DP> need one Chicagoan to help (RichardDabrowski comes to DP> mind... since he's a native but staying at the Hotel. Rich?) i never intended for all arrival dinner people to meet up at the dorm, just those for which that makes sense. i do expect some common sense from a few of you. after all you code in perl and not python, that means you can also read a map! yow!! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From frag at ripco.com Thu Jun 22 21:38:50 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:38:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: I think you overestimate the complexity of the transfer operation, but I just want to make sure everyone understands the alternate route to get home. Speaking of which, this is a good time to point out that trains are labelled with both their color and their final destinations, instead of simply "North" or "South". Thus: * Red line - Howard: north bound (to Addison and Goose Island) * Red line - 95th/Dan Ryan: south bound (to 35th-Sox Park; transfer to Green line at Roosevelt to go directly back to the IIT campus stop) * Green line - Harlem/Lake: north and west bound (transfer to Red line - Howard trains at Roosevelt to get to Addison stop & Goose Island ) * Green line - either Ashland/63rd OR East 63rd/Cottage Grove: south (leads you to the IIT campus stop and points beyond). Both of these branches stop at IIT before forking off to their final stations. I've already wikied this up. On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>> "MF" == Mike Fragassi writes: > > MF> A modest proposal: Since people will be left to fend for themselves on > MF> returning, and it's a lot easier for people to retrace their steps than > MF> learn a 2nd new way their first hours in a new city, I suggest we depart > MF> on Sunday via the on-campus Green line stop, and transfer at Roosevelt to > MF> the Red line the rest of the way up to Addison. > > MF> Walking to the Red line in the early sunlit evening in a big group while > MF> sober: fine. Walking from the Red line alone at night drunk: not > MF> necessarily so fine. > > a valid proposal but when you herd hackers, a single train vs a transfer > will be much easier and likely faster. i expect anyone who wants to use > the 2 train route back (and i will likely be one of them!) can figure it > out. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 00:27:01 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:27:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: (Mike Fragassi's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:38:50 -0500 (CDT)") References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "MF" == Mike Fragassi writes: MF> I think you overestimate the complexity of the transfer operation, but I MF> just want to make sure everyone understands the alternate route to get MF> home. having been raised in nyc and lived in boston, i never underestimate how well subways run! :) and any transfer will add time and herding takes time. just the way it is unless all arrival attendees quickly learn to march military style. might as well become a python programmer if you want to lose the ability to do silly walks or stampeding a herd of hackers through the vatican. (quickie quiz: who said that last part, what flick, and what was the response?) it is just so much easier to corral onto one train to goose island. but we can have an impromptu vote as we gather up. still haven't picked which dorm is best for this. anyone know their lobby setups? uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 00:33:45 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:33:45 -0400 Subject: [yapc] talk amongst yourselves Message-ID: topic: how can we communicate at yapc? #yapc on irc.perl.org is probably the best way to chat with other attendees. irc has been used to handle remote bids for the auction and to arrange bofs and quiet heckling of talks and auctioneers. this mailing list let's you spam us all with your needs, ideas, gatherings, meetings, parties, lunches, etc. the wiki is a great place and is useful for all sorts of yapc info. many of you are using it but many are not. sign up for bofs, side events, travel and lodging info, maps and more. add your knowledge or activities. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi the ironic thing is that i don't drink cawfee. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From jbisbee at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 02:53:02 2006 From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:53:02 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: On 6/23/06, Uri Guttman wrote: > and any transfer will add time and herding takes time. just the way it > is unless all arrival attendees quickly learn to march military > style. might as well become a python programmer if you want to lose the > ability to do silly walks or stampeding a herd of hackers through the > vatican. (quickie quiz: who said that last part, what flick, and what > was the response?) Who: Cleavon Little as Bart Movie: Blazing Saddles Response: "Kinky! Sign here." -- Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.com From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 23 07:13:35 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:13:35 +0000 Subject: [yapc] gym? Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606230713j73cac8cfs7fc8379f4089f36@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know if there is a gym/weight room on the IIT campus? If there is, do we have to pay extra to use it and what are the opening hours? Thanks. P -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From jose.castro at log.pt Fri Jun 23 07:18:37 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:18:37 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Weather Message-ID: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? T-shirts? Something warmer? Is it rainy? Is it really really hot? Is it snowing? I have no idea :-) Can anyone give me a hint? :-) jac ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 23 07:24:28 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:24:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <53DA31A5-C151-4D0B-9C9D-72E12F7D36C4@petdance.com> It's not snowing. It could be anywhere from 60-100F. http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/weddings/local/USIL0225 -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 23 07:24:39 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:24:39 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606230724r4796ca57qaf3cf79396b8b7b4@mail.gmail.com> http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USIL0225?from=search_10day Temps appear to be in the pleasantly warm range, but with the thunderstorms it's likely to get humid. So I'd plan on dressing light for the most part, but having something rainproof with you also. Cheers. P On 6/23/06, Jose Castro wrote: > Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? > > T-shirts? > > Something warmer? > > Is it rainy? > > Is it really really hot? > > Is it snowing? > > I have no idea :-) Can anyone give me a hint? :-) > > jac > > > ------------------------------------------ > Jos? Castro > log > Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 > Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 > Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa > ------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From pete at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 07:27:06 2006 From: pete at yapcchicago.org (Peter Krawczyk) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:27:06 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <0F53E231-1D0D-480F-9CC7-230C6A0A7CDB@yapcchicago.org> We've been posting the forecasts daily on the wiki. It'll be 25C highs, 18C lows, and a couple chances of rain. It will be humid, however - probably between 70% and 100% most of the time. -Pete K On Jun 23, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Jose Castro wrote: > Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 07:30:12 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:30:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: you could look on weatherunderground.com for specifics, but right now, i as a resident of chicago, believe it will be in the 70s to 90s range. and it could rain. it will not snow. On Jun 23, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Jose Castro wrote: > Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? > > T-shirts? > > Something warmer? > > Is it rainy? > > Is it really really hot? > > Is it snowing? > > I have no idea :-) Can anyone give me a hint? :-) > > jac > > > ------------------------------------------ > Jos? Castro > log > Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 > Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 > Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa > ------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From steve at fisharerojo.org Fri Jun 23 07:36:20 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:36:20 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <20060623143620.GA20807@fisharerojo.org> On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 03:18:37PM +0100, Jose Castro wrote: > Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? > > T-shirts? > > Something warmer? > > Is it rainy? > > Is it really really hot? > > Is it snowing? > > I have no idea :-) Can anyone give me a hint? :-) > All of the above ;) Expect daytime highs of around 80 F (27 C) and lows around 60 F (15 C). These temps can reasonably vary by 10 degrees F either way. You can check out the current extended forcast at . Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 23 07:34:58 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:34:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <6A4B4AAE-204E-43A6-9C91-D4C8049038BC@petdance.com> > it will not snow. That's because it's construction season. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu Fri Jun 23 07:41:25 2006 From: Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu (York, Joel) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:41:25 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather Message-ID: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF670C@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> That's right. We have two seasons here: winter and construction. JoelYork -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andy Lester Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:35 AM To: Hal Wigoda Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Weather > it will not snow. That's because it's construction season. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From yapc at galumph.com Fri Jun 23 08:11:26 2006 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:11:26 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <449C049E.3050609@galumph.com> Jose Castro wrote: > Chicago: What kind of clothing should I pack? > > T-shirts? > > Something warmer? > > Is it rainy? > > Is it really really hot? > > Is it snowing? Yes. To all of the above. Well, maybe not the last one-- I think the record for the latest snow is sometime in May. It currently looks like things are going to be fairly temperate next week, but that could readily change, in either direction. "If you don't like the weather in Chicago, wait 15 minutes." Extremes in the last two weeks: 48.2F/9.0C to 91.9F/33.3C. Wind has been as high as 28mph/44kph with gusts up to 49mph/80kph. Humidities between 21% and 90%. (Data is for Midway airport, which is the smaller and closer to campus one, accumulated via http://www.gauchosoft.com/Software/Seasonality/.) The campus and Goose island are significantly closer to the lake than the airport, which tends to temper things. Around now, if the wind is from the east, you can expect the temperature in these areas to be up to 5F/3C cooler than Midway. From frag at ripco.com Fri Jun 23 08:39:50 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:39:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > it is just so much easier to corral onto one train to goose island. but > we can have an impromptu vote as we gather up. still haven't picked > which dorm is best for this. anyone know their lobby setups? Probably the best meeting space is the McCormick Tribune Campus Center, which is right between the 2 dorms, and has plenty of space. The south entrance, next to the campus 7-11 and facing 33rd street, is the easiest to find. -- Mike F. From ghendricks at novell.com Fri Jun 23 08:52:11 2006 From: ghendricks at novell.com (Gregary Hendricks) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:52:11 -0600 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? Message-ID: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up at Midway airport? Is it really more economical to have a pass or just pay by the ride? Also any estimates as to how long it will take to get from Midway to the IIT campus on the L? My flight gets in at 7:10 pm so I am guessing there is no feasibility to making it to the Arrival dinner before 9:00. -- Gregary Hendricks From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Fri Jun 23 08:57:28 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:57:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA > visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up > at Midway airport? http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 23 09:02:49 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> Message-ID: <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> 1) At the very least, buy a $5 or $10 card. There will be kiosks at Midway near the entrance to the orange line. There may also be a place to buy the visitors pass, but I am unfamiliar with those. 2) http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com/ You can get best estimates about trip times and routes, etc. HOWEVER, ask a local if a particular route is advised. Punching in going from Midway to 3300 S. Federal advises to get off the orange line at Archer, and waiting for a bus. I would avoid this route as it has you standing around with all your worldly travelling posessions in a not-so-nice neighborhood. It's nice that they have options to select a route that's quickest or involves the least amount of walking - if only they had a selectable option "I'd like a route that's least likely to get me mugged or raped and arrive alive and intact". ;) I'd guess at the route suggested (transferring to the green line) should take on the order of 25-30 minutes. -Kent On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Gregary Hendricks wrote: > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA visitor pass mailed, > is it possible to pick them up at Midway airport? Is it really more > economical to have a pass or just pay by the ride? > > Also any estimates as to how long it will take to get from Midway to the > IIT campus on the L? My flight gets in at 7:10 pm so I am guessing there > is no feasibility to making it to the Arrival dinner before 9:00. > > -- > Gregary Hendricks > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From twists at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 09:03:02 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:03:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: On 6/23/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA > > visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up > > at Midway airport? > > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or Midway (where Gregary cares about)? It didn't even occur to me that this visitor pass would need to be purchased in advance and remotely. I figured this was something a person could just buy at a kiosk like other transit fare. Josh From adeltac at valueclick.com Fri Jun 23 09:06:47 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:06:47 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scroll to the very bottom, there are entries for both of the airports. Aran > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua ben Jore > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:03 AM > To: Jeremy Fluhmann > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? > > On 6/23/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA > > > visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up > > > at Midway airport? > > > > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet > > Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or > Midway (where Gregary cares about)? It didn't even occur to me that > this visitor pass would need to be purchased in advance and remotely. > I figured this was something a person could just buy at a kiosk like > other transit fare. > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From twists at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 09:08:32 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:08:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: On 6/23/06, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > On 6/23/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA > > > visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up > > > at Midway airport? > > > > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet > > Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or > Midway (where Gregary cares about)? It didn't even occur to me that I am, of course, a moron. It says in the page *above* Jeremy's link that tix are sold at Midway and O'Hare and then several pages down the hours are 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Midway Airport Orange Line Station 4612 W. 59th St. Visitor Pass Vending Machine available 24 hours per day Accepts credit and debit cards O'Hare Airport Blue Line Station Main Parking Garage, Lower Level Visitor Pass Vending Machine available 24 hours per day Accepts credit and debit cards Josh From dnm_a at swbell.net Fri Jun 23 09:08:46 2006 From: dnm_a at swbell.net (David Messina) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:08:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: From this page: > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet > > Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or > Midway (where Gregary cares about)? Midway Airport Orange Line Station 4612 W. 59th St. Visitor Pass Vending Machine available 24 hours per day Accepts credit and debit cards O'Hare Airport Blue Line Station Main Parking Garage, Lower Level Visitor Pass Vending Machine available 24 hours per day Accepts credit and debit cards From pete at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 09:09:25 2006 From: pete at yapcchicago.org (Peter Krawczyk) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:09:25 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <1CFD06CF-564A-4217-AB58-2D7B8EDF5394@yapcchicago.org> On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or > Midway (where Gregary cares about)? Yeah; there's a section on the bottom explaining each airport has a vending machine that you can purchase the pass from that's available 24 hours. -Pete K From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 09:11:17 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:11:17 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: (Jeff Bisbee's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:53:02 -0400") References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> "JB" == Jeff Bisbee writes: JB> On 6/23/06, Uri Guttman wrote: >> and any transfer will add time and herding takes time. just the way it >> is unless all arrival attendees quickly learn to march military >> style. might as well become a python programmer if you want to lose the >> ability to do silly walks or stampeding a herd of hackers through the >> vatican. (quickie quiz: who said that last part, what flick, and what >> was the response?) JB> Who: Cleavon Little as Bart JB> Movie: Blazing Saddles JB> Response: "Kinky! Sign here." we have a winnah!! what does he win? not much. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 09:17:19 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:17:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> (Jose Castro's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:18:37 +0100") References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: >>>>> "JC" == Jose Castro writes: JC> Is it snowing? yes. bring your warmest heaviest clothing. winter parka, thermal underwear, wool shirts, sweaters, etc. it won't get much above 45F (7C) during june in chicago. lake michigan conducts the frigid arctic winds down from canada. this is why they call it the windy city! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From amoore at mooresystems.com Fri Jun 23 09:32:53 2006 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:32:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <20060623163253.GA25394@mooresystems.com> On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:03:02AM -0500, Joshua ben Jore wrote: > Are any of those listed places near the O'Hare (where I care about) or > Midway (where Gregary cares about)? It didn't even occur to me that > this visitor pass would need to be purchased in advance and remotely. > I figured this was something a person could just buy at a kiosk like > other transit fare. I always buy mine from the kiosk in the airport. I've done it in Midway, and I see that the page: http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet lists O'Hare, too. You can do it any time of the day, and according to the page, those things take credit cards, too. I plunk in cash, though. It's usually a different machine at the end of the line of fare machines. I figured it out right the first time, and I'm usually a dolt when it comes to these things. I do it every time I'm in Chicago and think it's well worth the convenience, even if I end up not riding much and it ends up costing an extra $1 or so. Plus, it encourages me to cruise around and see different parts of the city. But, on one occasion (I think it was a Sunday evening), the kiosk at Midway was either out of cards or out of service. I just bought a regular transit card for $2 or whatever. -Andy From andrewd at onshore.com Fri Jun 23 09:35:56 2006 From: andrewd at onshore.com (Andrew Dougherty) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:35:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my van and last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan blowing gently so I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. This is my news. On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "JC" == Jose Castro writes: > > JC> Is it snowing? > > yes. bring your warmest heaviest clothing. winter parka, thermal > underwear, wool shirts, sweaters, etc. it won't get much above 45F (7C) > during june in chicago. lake michigan conducts the frigid arctic winds > down from canada. this is why they call it the windy city! > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 09:56:24 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:56:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: (Andrew Dougherty's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:35:56 -0500 (CDT)") References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: >>>>> "AD" == Andrew Dougherty writes: AD> I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my van AD> and last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan AD> blowing gently so I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. AD> This is my news. i don't expect YOU to believe the report. i wanted the warmblooded COG to believe it!! :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Fri Jun 23 10:04:12 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:04:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: O'Hare Airport Blue Line Station Main Parking Garage, Lower Level Visitor Pass Vending Machine available 24 hours per day Accepts credit and debit cards Yea!! Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 10:42:11 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:42:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> Kent Cowgill wrote: >HOWEVER, ask a local if a particular route is advised. Punching in going >from Midway to 3300 S. Federal advises to get off the orange line at >Archer, and waiting for a bus. I would avoid this route as it has you >standing around with all your worldly traveling possessions in a >not-so-nice neighborhood. > I call BS on the CTAs advice. The GREEN line and the ORANGE line share some stations up near the loop. I'm hazy on the specifics, but it might include ROOSEVELT. If so, take the orange to Roosevelt, and transfer to a southbound (mumble 63rd) green train to IIT. MUCH, much easier than "Oh, catch an obscure bus or something". ClydeForrester From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 10:45:19 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:45:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? Message-ID: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list postings, so that replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? Clyde From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 10:47:49 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:47:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: <7476C849-83F5-4FED-B80B-F92925BF8D12@mindspring.com> is this a vw hippie van? is it down by the river? On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Dougherty wrote: > I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my van and > last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan blowing > gently so > I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. This is my news. > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > >>>>>>> "JC" == Jose Castro writes: >> >> JC> Is it snowing? >> >> yes. bring your warmest heaviest clothing. winter parka, thermal >> underwear, wool shirts, sweaters, etc. it won't get much above 45F >> (7C) >> during june in chicago. lake michigan conducts the frigid arctic >> winds >> down from canada. this is why they call it the windy city! >> >> uri >> >> -- >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http:// >> www.stemsystems.com >> --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design >> and Coding- >> Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http:// >> jobs.perl.org >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 23 10:48:49 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <7476C849-83F5-4FED-B80B-F92925BF8D12@mindspring.com> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> <7476C849-83F5-4FED-B80B-F92925BF8D12@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20060623124825.V45337@atbash.c2group.net> Do you perchance give motivational talks to troubled teens? On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Hal Wigoda wrote: > is this a vw hippie van? > > is it down by the river? > > > On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Dougherty wrote: > > > I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my van and > > last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan blowing > > gently so > > I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. This is my news. > > > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > > > >>>>>>> "JC" == Jose Castro writes: > >> > >> JC> Is it snowing? > >> > >> yes. bring your warmest heaviest clothing. winter parka, thermal > >> underwear, wool shirts, sweaters, etc. it won't get much above 45F > >> (7C) > >> during june in chicago. lake michigan conducts the frigid arctic > >> winds > >> down from canada. this is why they call it the windy city! > >> > >> uri > >> > >> -- > >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http:// > >> www.stemsystems.com > >> --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design > >> and Coding- > >> Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http:// > >> jobs.perl.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yapc mailing list > >> yapc at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 23 10:51:17 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:51:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20060623125046.K45337@atbash.c2group.net> Yeah, I think that route is already on the wiki as the advisable way to get from midway to IIT. I followed the CTA bus advice through an unknown neighborhood once. Transferring busses in a ghetto was not fun - the next bus was nowhere in site, and instead of standing around like an idiot, I started walking and finally caught a bus 5-6 blocks later. I'm still amazed I was left alone - I think I was wearing somewhat nice dress clothing carrying a leather briefcase. -Kent On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Clyde Forrester wrote: > Kent Cowgill wrote: > > >HOWEVER, ask a local if a particular route is advised. Punching in going > >from Midway to 3300 S. Federal advises to get off the orange line at > >Archer, and waiting for a bus. I would avoid this route as it has you > >standing around with all your worldly traveling possessions in a > >not-so-nice neighborhood. > > > I call BS on the CTAs advice. > > The GREEN line and the ORANGE line share some stations up near the loop. > I'm hazy on the specifics, but it might include ROOSEVELT. If so, take > the orange to Roosevelt, and transfer to a southbound (mumble 63rd) > green train to IIT. MUCH, much easier than "Oh, catch an obscure bus or > something". > > ClydeForrester > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 23 10:51:59 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:51:59 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: <20060623124825.V45337@atbash.c2group.net> References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> <7476C849-83F5-4FED-B80B-F92925BF8D12@mindspring.com> <20060623124825.V45337@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606231051h6e3c982dtbaf5e7d86cfe66eb@mail.gmail.com> Do you wear a shirt when you give these talks? On 6/23/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Do you perchance give motivational talks to troubled teens? > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Hal Wigoda wrote: > > > is this a vw hippie van? > > > > is it down by the river? > > > > > > On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Dougherty wrote: > > > > > I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my van and > > > last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan blowing > > > gently so > > > I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. This is my news. > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Uri Guttman wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> "JC" == Jose Castro writes: > > >> > > >> JC> Is it snowing? > > >> > > >> yes. bring your warmest heaviest clothing. winter parka, thermal > > >> underwear, wool shirts, sweaters, etc. it won't get much above 45F > > >> (7C) > > >> during june in chicago. lake michigan conducts the frigid arctic > > >> winds > > >> down from canada. this is why they call it the windy city! > > >> > > >> uri > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http:// > > >> www.stemsystems.com > > >> --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design > > >> and Coding- > > >> Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http:// > > >> jobs.perl.org > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> yapc mailing list > > >> yapc at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From jose.castro at log.pt Fri Jun 23 10:56:36 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:56:36 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Weather In-Reply-To: References: <93b77a58438c1f2456fa81b7f5c872d9@log.pt> Message-ID: On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: >>>>>> "AD" == Andrew Dougherty writes: > > AD> I'm in Chicago right now (I live here). I sleep outside in my > van > AD> and last night I slept in shorts, no shirt, with a case fan > AD> blowing gently so I don't overheat. I can't believe that report. > AD> This is my news. > > i don't expect YOU to believe the report. i wanted the warmblooded COG > to believe it!! And now that I'm all dressed up they tell me... Damn... It's gonna take me at least 2 more hours to take all this stuff out again... :-) > :) > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- > http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and > Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- > http://jobs.perl.org > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 10:58:48 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:58:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking passes Message-ID: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> so where do you get parking passes? From shildret at scotth.emsphone.com Fri Jun 23 11:01:27 2006 From: shildret at scotth.emsphone.com (Scott T. Hildreth) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:01:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking passes In-Reply-To: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> References: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1151085687.60970.145.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 12:58 -0500, Hal Wigoda wrote: > so where do you get parking passes? Josh says we can get them at the registration. I am going to "Try" to park in the visitors metered section by the building. Look at the map link on the wiki. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- Scott T. Hildreth From jose.castro at log.pt Fri Jun 23 11:05:03 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:05:03 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... Message-ID: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> Sorry to send this to the list, but it might be of some use to other too. In about an hour or so, I'm going home, pack, sleep for a few hours and then wake up to notice how late I am and run to the airport. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to keep up with all that's been going on on the mailing list and the Wiki. When we did the YAPC in Portugal, we had a "YAPC attendee to do list" (and a shorter version of it too), intended for people that had a couple of weeks like the ones I've just been through. Basically, what I'm looking for is a small list that tells me something in the lines of: - print this map because you'll need it - print this page because it explains how you get from the airport to the dorms - have this other information handy because you'll need it when you get to the dorms Something like that... Is there such a thing? Can somebody please provide me some pointers? (Please don't give me a RTFM kind of answer. I only slept 3 hours last night, it's already 19h here in Portugal, I still have work to do, I haven't even started packing and I really won't be able to browse the whole Wiki and the hundreds of unread mail I have in this mailing list) (I promise to tell the story of these past weeks to anyone who wants to hear) Best regards to all of you, and I can't wait to meet up with all of you again :-) jac PS: And no, of course I haven't the slides for my three talks ready! What a silly question! :-) ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 11:11:34 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:11:34 -0500 Subject: [yapc] oreilly Message-ID: will o'reilly be selling books? From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 23 11:15:04 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 23 Jun 2006 11:15:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? In-Reply-To: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <86lkrnd9hz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Clyde" == Clyde Forrester writes: Clyde> Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list postings, so that Clyde> replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? *Never* on mail.pm.org. Thank goodness. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 11:17:55 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:17:55 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? In-Reply-To: <86lkrnd9hz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> <86lkrnd9hz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: just do a "reply all". On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Clyde" == Clyde Forrester writes: > > Clyde> Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list > postings, so that > Clyde> replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? > > *Never* on mail.pm.org. Thank goodness. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl > training! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 11:29:07 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:29:07 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> <86lkrnd9hz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <449C32F3.6040602@mindspring.com> Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>"Clyde" == Clyde Forrester writes: >>>>>> > >Clyde> Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list postings, so that >Clyde> replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? > >*Never* on mail.pm.org. Thank goodness. > Oh. Ok. Sorry. I thought it would be the fundamental nature of mailing lists of the group discussion sort. From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 23 11:30:12 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:30:12 +0000 Subject: [yapc] classes Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> I'm taking one of the three classes taht run Thur->Fri. Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? Just wondering if I should buy one to bring with me to class. P -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 23 11:35:48 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:35:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? In-Reply-To: <449C32F3.6040602@mindspring.com> References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> <86lkrnd9hz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <449C32F3.6040602@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Clyde Forrester wrote: > I thought it would be the fundamental nature of mailing lists of the > group discussion sort. Please don't troll the Randal! -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From pete at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 11:36:08 2006 From: pete at yapcchicago.org (Peter Krawczyk) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:36:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:30 PM, pete wrote: > Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? Yes, you get to keep the book given to you in class. -Pete K From ghendricks at novell.com Fri Jun 23 12:11:15 2006 From: ghendricks at novell.com (Gregary Hendricks) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:11:15 -0600 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D3F6@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <1151089876.25002.8.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 10:57 -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Since it is a little late in the game to get a CTA > > visitor pass mailed, is it possible to pick them up > > at Midway airport? > > http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/fares.html#outlet > Ah, thank you. Should have spent some more time on the CTA site. Vending machines, another novel idea. :) -- Greg Hendricks Novell IS&T Engineering Tools (801) 861-3481 ghendricks at novell.com From Thomas.Allison at ONSTAR.com Fri Jun 23 12:13:24 2006 From: Thomas.Allison at ONSTAR.com (Allison, Thomas) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:13:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... In-Reply-To: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> Message-ID: <130B08C139FCF44ABD3B545F0294D74302F5D637@USRN4EX0ONS02.onstar.ad.gm.com> Eventually you want to end up here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=3300+S+federal+st,+chicago,+il+60616&ie=UTF8&ll=41.838746,-87.629185&spn=0.022573,0.073214&om=1 3300 S Federal St, Chicago, IL 60616 Dorm locations? -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+thomas.allison=onstar.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+thomas.allison=onstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Jose Castro Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:05 PM To: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... Sorry to send this to the list, but it might be of some use to other too. In about an hour or so, I'm going home, pack, sleep for a few hours and then wake up to notice how late I am and run to the airport. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to keep up with all that's been going on on the mailing list and the Wiki. When we did the YAPC in Portugal, we had a "YAPC attendee to do list" (and a shorter version of it too), intended for people that had a couple of weeks like the ones I've just been through. Basically, what I'm looking for is a small list that tells me something in the lines of: - print this map because you'll need it - print this page because it explains how you get from the airport to the dorms - have this other information handy because you'll need it when you get to the dorms Something like that... Is there such a thing? Can somebody please provide me some pointers? (Please don't give me a RTFM kind of answer. I only slept 3 hours last night, it's already 19h here in Portugal, I still have work to do, I haven't even started packing and I really won't be able to browse the whole Wiki and the hundreds of unread mail I have in this mailing list) (I promise to tell the story of these past weeks to anyone who wants to hear) Best regards to all of you, and I can't wait to meet up with all of you again :-) jac PS: And no, of course I haven't the slides for my three talks ready! What a silly question! :-) ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ccf3 at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 12:31:23 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:31:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> <449C3D58.2050302@galumph.com> Message-ID: <449C418B.1030101@mindspring.com> Elliot Shank wrote: >> From O'Hare, you'll need to take the Blue Line to > > > - the Clark & Lake station and switch to the Green Line (note that the > Blue Line at this point is underground and the Green Line is a story > above ground, so there are elevators/escalators/stairs in your future). To clarify that a bit: If you are coming from O'Hare on the Blue Line, and want to transfer (at Clark & Lake) to the southbound Green Line to get to IIT, turn right (south) at the top of the first escalator, and go up through the Thompson State of Illinois Center. But don't worry if you botch that. There's also a bridge at that 'L' station between the two platforms. From yapc at galumph.com Fri Jun 23 12:29:50 2006 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:29:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... In-Reply-To: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> References: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> Message-ID: <449C412E.60608@galumph.com> Jose Castro wrote: > - print this map because you'll need it If you're planning on traveling via public transportation, when you arrive at the airport, make sure to pick up a system map at the L platform; they're freely available. If you want to figure things out in advance, go to http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/systemmaps.html and print out the chunks of map relevant to you. Specifically for the Goose Island thing, you want this one: http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/maps/2006N.html. The stop you want is the Addison one. And, for the campus, you'll want http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/maps/2006C.html. Interestingly, these maps don't show the new Pink Line which is starting up on Sunday; however, I highly doubt that the out-of-towners coming will have any use for that line. Just don't be surprised if you see some maps that have a Pink Line on it and others that don't. From yapc at galumph.com Fri Jun 23 12:33:11 2006 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:33:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <449C41F7.1000302@galumph.com> Clyde Forrester wrote: > Kent Cowgill wrote: > >> HOWEVER, ask a local if a particular route is advised. Punching in going >> from Midway to 3300 S. Federal advises to get off the orange line at >> Archer, and waiting for a bus. I would avoid this route as it has you >> standing around with all your worldly traveling possessions in a >> not-so-nice neighborhood. >> > I call BS on the CTAs advice. > > The GREEN line and the ORANGE line share some stations up near the > loop. I'm hazy on the specifics, but it might include ROOSEVELT. If > so, take the orange to Roosevelt, and transfer to a southbound > (mumble 63rd) green train to IIT. MUCH, much easier than "Oh, catch > an obscure bus or something". Absolutely switch at Roosevelt to get to campus from Midway; it's the southernmost station that the Orange Line has in common with any other. From Roosevelt you can take either the Green or Red Lines south to the campus. Much easier to tell where to get off and nicer than attempting to take your luggage on the bus. >From O'Hare, you'll need to take the Blue Line to - the Clark & Lake station and switch to the Green Line (note that the Blue Line at this point is underground and the Green Line is a story above ground, so there are elevators/escalators/stairs in your future). or - the Washington or Jackson stations and switch to the Red Line. When you get off the Blue Line train and are standing on the platform, look for a set of stairs going DOWN in the middle of the platform. Do not use the stairs/escalators going up at the ends of the platform; these take you up to the street. The stairs going down will get you into a tunnel that will bring you up in the middle of the equivalent Red Line station. Useless trivia: at the time it was built, the Red Line platform was the longest train platform in the world; the L makes four stops on the same platform. The Blue Line platform parallel to the Red Line one "only" has three stops on it. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 23 12:34:16 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 23 Jun 2006 12:34:16 -0700 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Krawczyk writes: Peter> On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:30 PM, pete wrote: >> Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? Peter> Yes, you get to keep the book given to you in class. You could probably even get them autographed. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From yapc at galumph.com Fri Jun 23 12:47:02 2006 From: yapc at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:47:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... In-Reply-To: <130B08C139FCF44ABD3B545F0294D74302F5D637@USRN4EX0ONS02.onstar.ad.gm.com> References: <130B08C139FCF44ABD3B545F0294D74302F5D637@USRN4EX0ONS02.onstar.ad.gm.com> Message-ID: <449C4536.9060905@galumph.com> Allison, Thomas wrote: > Dorm locations? http://www.yapcchicago.org/media/iit_campus.jpg as referenced on http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?UsefulMaps. From pete at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 12:47:50 2006 From: pete at yapcchicago.org (Peter Krawczyk) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:47:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> On Jun 23, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Krawczyk writes: > Peter> On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:30 PM, pete wrote: >>> Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? > Peter> Yes, you get to keep the book given to you in class. > You could probably even get them autographed. :) Yeah, but I doubt anyone wants my signature *ducks* -Pete K From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 12:48:41 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:48:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Docathon (was Re: State of Perl 6 Backends) In-Reply-To: <74255623-4B5E-4ED0-8B5E-1B45A58B0D12@audreyt.org> (Audrey Tang's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:19:30 -0700") References: <351e88710606222018t276df3c0y44cacdac3ba22374@mail.gmail.com> <2BFD929E-F44B-4253-991D-29A892C25CB8@audreyt.org> <351e88710606230004i5eae6310r887b0d7a7a0dc60c@mail.gmail.com> <200606230950.57587.chromatic@wgz.org> <74255623-4B5E-4ED0-8B5E-1B45A58B0D12@audreyt.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "AT" == Audrey Tang writes: AT> Indeed. So instead of having the implementions define the language, AT> this time around the specs, and tests, and API documentations, need AT> to be adhered closely by implementors, which is why we're all talking AT> together in #perl6 in the past few months or so. :-) that was a good leadin for me to remind anyone at the chicago hackathon that we are going to also do a docathon. i actually printed up (double sided to save trees) the full set of synopses from perl.org. (not the most up to date but good enough). i will be marking it up as i read it. i would like to get some of you to do more proofreading at the docathon and we can integrates our patches, rewrites, questions while a large corps of p6 hackers will be around. take a break from hacking p6 and hack the p6 docs! sign up and post your ideas at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SynopsisEdit (i should have called it DocAthon. maybe i will rename it) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From frag at ripco.com Fri Jun 23 12:50:49 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... In-Reply-To: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> References: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> Message-ID: If this isn't too late for you: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalFAQ - Mike F. From jose.castro at log.pt Fri Jun 23 13:02:44 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:02:44 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Almost leaving Portugal... In-Reply-To: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> References: <0c38e34f00850fffbb6b422a8aae52b8@log.pt> Message-ID: <408e0c5e1960db9972ab690275c14dcc@log.pt> Thanks for the tips, everybody! :-) I have printed all you sent me and more... Well, at least I'll be busy during my whole 16 hour flight... See you soon :-) jac On Jun 23, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Jose Castro wrote: > Sorry to send this to the list, but it might be of some use to other > too. > > In about an hour or so, I'm going home, pack, sleep for a few hours and > then wake up to notice how late I am and run to the airport. > > Unfortunately, I haven't been able to keep up with all that's been > going on on the mailing list and the Wiki. > > When we did the YAPC in Portugal, we had a "YAPC attendee to do list" > (and a shorter version of it too), intended for people that had a > couple of weeks like the ones I've just been through. > > Basically, what I'm looking for is a small list that tells me something > in the lines of: > > - print this map because you'll need it > - print this page because it explains how you get from the airport to > the dorms > - have this other information handy because you'll need it when you > get to the dorms > > Something like that... > > Is there such a thing? Can somebody please provide me some pointers? > > (Please don't give me a RTFM kind of answer. I only slept 3 hours last > night, it's already 19h here in Portugal, I still have work to do, I > haven't even started packing and I really won't be able to browse the > whole Wiki and the hundreds of unread mail I have in this mailing list) > > (I promise to tell the story of these past weeks to anyone who wants to > hear) > > Best regards to all of you, and I can't wait to meet up with all of you > again :-) > > jac > > PS: And no, of course I haven't the slides for my three talks ready! > What a silly question! :-) > > > ------------------------------------------ > Jos? Castro > log > Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 > Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 > Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa > ------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 13:50:21 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:50:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> (Peter Krawczyk's message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:47:50 -0500") References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: >>>>> "PK" == Peter Krawczyk writes: PK> On Jun 23, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Krawczyk writes: Peter> On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:30 PM, pete wrote: >>>> Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? Peter> Yes, you get to keep the book given to you in class. >> You could probably even get them autographed. :) PK> Yeah, but I doubt anyone wants my signature *ducks* why, your ducks are so special, they are signature! uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From p at chudpi.org Fri Jun 23 14:03:29 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:03:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606231403u4671ad49r2258a840dd21a0bc@mail.gmail.com> I just might ask Randal, since it's your class I signed up for :-). Looking forward to it. P On 23 Jun 2006 12:34:16 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Krawczyk writes: > > Peter> On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:30 PM, pete wrote: > >> Do we get to keep the books the classes cover? > > Peter> Yes, you get to keep the book given to you in class. > > You could probably even get them autographed. :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! > -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Jun 23 14:07:01 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 23 Jun 2006 14:07:01 -0700 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <4C0E17E9-ADE6-4F8D-8599-565C09B9CA04@yapcchicago.org> <86fyhvd5tz.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <8664ird1je.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Krawczyk writes: Peter> Yeah, but I doubt anyone wants my signature *ducks* Hey, if you have signature ducks, I'm in line for one! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From chromatic at wgz.org Fri Jun 23 14:27:57 2006 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:27:57 -0700 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <8664ird1je.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> <8664ird1je.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <200606231427.59101.chromatic@wgz.org> On Friday 23 June 2006 14:07, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Hey, if you have signature ducks, I'm in line for one! But can they type? -- c From chromatic at wgz.org Fri Jun 23 14:27:57 2006 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:27:57 -0700 Subject: [yapc] classes In-Reply-To: <8664ird1je.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <4ad4005e0606231130h1988925y44e0221d82f5c590@mail.gmail.com> <064A2D32-78D6-42D1-AAE4-991EDD4D245A@yapcchicago.org> <8664ird1je.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <200606231427.59101.chromatic@wgz.org> On Friday 23 June 2006 14:07, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Hey, if you have signature ducks, I'm in line for one! But can they type? -- c From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 23 15:36:16 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:36:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo ma in free concert at millennium park Message-ID: <15A8E527-0172-49C7-96FB-01FE06246EE9@mindspring.com> silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo ma in free concert at millennium park see http://www.silkroadchicago.org/ Free concert at Millennium Park Monday, June 26, 2006 at 6:30 p.m. Pritzker Pavilion (capacity 11,000+). Enjoy an unprecedented musical journey when The Silk Road Ensemble comes to Millennium Park. In this remarkable concert, Artistic Director Yo-Yo Ma joins virtuoso artists from around the world to offer dazzling musical gifts from Asia and the West, played on an inspired combination of familiar and exotic instruments. From maxmohun at speakeasy.net Fri Jun 23 15:49:27 2006 From: maxmohun at speakeasy.net (Maximilian Mohun) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:49:27 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room Message-ID: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> Hello, I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the classes afterwards. I'd like to stay in the dorms so I can have wireless access. Can anyone share a room? I just found out about the conference yesterday. I live in California. Ideally, I would like a room from the 25th to the 29th or 30th. Thanks, Maximilian Mohun From eli at mortgagefolder.com Fri Jun 23 16:38:29 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <57847.68.20.6.188.1151105909.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> That brings up a good question: do the dorms have wireless access? I know that we are providing the wireless for the conference center ourselves. If the conference center doesn't have wireless, the dorms might not have it either. Also, our wireless will be taken down each night so that we can lock up the hardware so you won't be able to hang around the Hermann building and use the wireless after the conference. > Hello, > > I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > classes afterwards. > > I'd like to stay in the dorms so I can have wireless access. > > Can anyone share a room? > > I just found out about the conference yesterday. I live in California. > > Ideally, I would like a room from the 25th to the 29th or 30th. > > Thanks, > > Maximilian Mohun > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From adeltac at valueclick.com Fri Jun 23 16:28:34 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:28:34 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <57847.68.20.6.188.1151105909.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elias Lutfallah > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:38 PM > To: yapc at pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Need a dorm room > > > That brings up a good question: do the dorms have wireless access? I know Even wired access at the dorms would make me happy. Anyone know? Aran > that we are providing the wireless for the conference center ourselves. If > the conference center doesn't have wireless, the dorms might not have it > either. > > Also, our wireless will be taken down each night so that we can lock up > the hardware so you won't be able to hang around the Hermann building and > use the wireless after the conference. > > > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > > classes afterwards. > > > > I'd like to stay in the dorms so I can have wireless access. > > > > Can anyone share a room? > > > > I just found out about the conference yesterday. I live in California. > > > > Ideally, I would like a room from the 25th to the 29th or 30th. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Maximilian Mohun > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > -- > Elias Lutfallah > Chief Technology Officer > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From kent at c2group.net Fri Jun 23 16:31:28 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:31:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060623183110.G45337@atbash.c2group.net> I saw that the rooms have at least wired jacks, if not wireless. On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Aran Deltac wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: yapc-bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > > bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Elias Lutfallah > > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:38 PM > > To: yapc at pm.org > > Subject: Re: [yapc] Need a dorm room > > > > > > That brings up a good question: do the dorms have wireless access? I > know > > Even wired access at the dorms would make me happy. Anyone know? > > Aran > > > that we are providing the wireless for the conference center > ourselves. If > > the conference center doesn't have wireless, the dorms might not have > it > > either. > > > > Also, our wireless will be taken down each night so that we can lock > up > > the hardware so you won't be able to hang around the Hermann building > and > > use the wireless after the conference. > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > > > classes afterwards. > > > > > > I'd like to stay in the dorms so I can have wireless access. > > > > > > Can anyone share a room? > > > > > > I just found out about the conference yesterday. I live in > California. > > > > > > Ideally, I would like a room from the 25th to the 29th or 30th. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Maximilian Mohun > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > > > -- > > Elias Lutfallah > > Chief Technology Officer > > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Fri Jun 23 16:36:45 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:36:45 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008388@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> My understanding was SSV has wifi and the MSV was upgraded with wifi: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?WhoIsStayingWhere My only concern was whether or not we would need to get "guest" logons. Wireless or wired. Jeremy ________________________________ From: yapc-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org on behalf of Elias Lutfallah Sent: Fri 6/23/2006 6:38 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] Need a dorm room That brings up a good question: do the dorms have wireless access? I know that we are providing the wireless for the conference center ourselves. If the conference center doesn't have wireless, the dorms might not have it either. Also, our wireless will be taken down each night so that we can lock up the hardware so you won't be able to hang around the Hermann building and use the wireless after the conference. > Hello, > > I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > classes afterwards. > > I'd like to stay in the dorms so I can have wireless access. > > Can anyone share a room? > > I just found out about the conference yesterday. I live in California. > > Ideally, I would like a room from the 25th to the 29th or 30th. > > Thanks, > > Maximilian Mohun > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060623/3a460bad/attachment.html From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 23 21:12:09 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:12:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] async BOF Message-ID: i added some notes and talking points to the Async BOF page http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AsyncBOF feel free to add your own notes and feedback to the wiki let's aim to meet for lunch on monday (first possible time) and see what happens. we can reschedule or meet more times if things get interesting. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From scott at slowass.net Fri Jun 23 21:32:02 2006 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:32:02 +0000 Subject: [yapc] async BOF In-Reply-To: <20060624043121.GJ29588@illogics.org> References: <20060624043121.GJ29588@illogics.org> Message-ID: <20060624043202.GM7832@illogics.org> Great. I can hijack the session and show off the work Brock and I have been doing with Continuity. W00t! -scott On 0, Uri Guttman wrote: > > i added some notes and talking points to the Async BOF page > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?AsyncBOF > > feel free to add your own notes and feedback to the wiki > > let's aim to meet for lunch on monday (first possible time) and see what > happens. we can reschedule or meet more times if things get interesting. > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com > --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- > Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From todd at monkeybytes.org Fri Jun 23 22:02:31 2006 From: todd at monkeybytes.org (todd at monkeybytes.org) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:02:31 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Bio BOF Message-ID: Calling all bio nerds*. There is a wiki entry at: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?BioPerlBOF We posted on the BioPerl mailing list with little response; hopefully, there are more bio people coming to the conference. Come by and talk bioinformatics, genomics, or anything else that comes to mind. Thanks- Todd *NOTE: Biology nerds... not biological nerds ;) From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 22:11:54 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:11:54 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008388@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008388@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <96394BF2-7942-4E60-B32B-E9CCAFEEBDD5@yapcchicago.org> > My only concern was whether or not we would need to get "guest" > logons. Wireless or wired. From what I've been told about MSV and SSV, both have wireless. You probably will have to log on as a guest or get a security key, but there will be bits streaming fiercely around you at all times. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060624/e09202e8/attachment.html From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 22:12:30 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:12:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Even wired access at the dorms would make me happy. Anyone know? Word is wireless in both. From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 22:23:07 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:23:07 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: > I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > classes afterwards. > Eek, unfortunately the timing might work against you. If you can't find someone with extra space in the dorms there are probably some hotels with space.... anyone out there booked a hotel in Chicago recently? If your looking for the cheap http://www.hichicago.com might be free. From amoore at mooresystems.com Fri Jun 23 22:49:58 2006 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:49:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <20060624054958.GA28321@mooresystems.com> On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:23:07AM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Eek, unfortunately the timing might work against you. If you can't > find someone with extra space in the dorms there are probably some > hotels with space.... anyone out there booked a hotel in Chicago > recently? I got a room at the Hyatt Regency Chicago a week or 3 ago, and I think they have more vacancy. I chose there for external reasons which are probably not available to most people, and their "rack rate" is probably rather high. It is near a few other nice hotels like the "W" and Hotel 71 on Wacker just off of Michigan. It's near the red line, which makes it reasonable for getting to IIT. My point is: you can still find places to stay if you're flexible with location and "creative" or whatever with cost. Chicago is a big town; you can find somewhere near the red or green lines to stay that will fit your circumstances. Just because (if) the doorms are full doesn't mean you shouldn't come! -Andy From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 22:41:38 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:41:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <20060624054958.GA28321@mooresystems.com> References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> <20060624054958.GA28321@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: > Just because (if) the doorms are full doesn't mean you shouldn't come! Indeed, there are tons of open rooms around the city, just maybe not on the 'direct' transit lines. From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:09:04 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:09:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] oreilly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <541E601A-CD1E-4FC3-98FE-7361E0F34737@yapcchicago.org> > will o'reilly be selling books? None of the publishers will be at the conference selling books, though maybe we should let them since they are consistently some of the best sponsors. From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:16:49 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:16:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] IIT Parking Message-ID: <733C4CF3-67F9-47A8-A782-538D99D479FD@yapcchicago.org> I know that quite a few of you are concerned about parking passes. IIT has told me that they will suspend issuing violations in the parking lot East of SSV/South of MSV until 10:00 a.m. Monday morning. Park there and purchase a parking pass at Herman Hall and get that pass in your car by 10:00 a.m. :) From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:17:39 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:17:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking passes In-Reply-To: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> References: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <8C5C7BDC-15F2-4DF6-A6CA-2EF282E6AEBC@yapcchicago.org> > so where do you get parking passes? Herman Hall before 10:00 a.m. Monday From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:19:33 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:19:33 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? In-Reply-To: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <7AF21E85-4FA4-4C5A-87C7-4A35F93C925E@yapcchicago.org> > Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list postings, so that > replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? If I knew how, I would... until then... 'Reply All' :) From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:23:36 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:23:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] parking passes In-Reply-To: <1151085687.60970.145.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> References: <01719D46-EE1F-4290-BBB2-FCED4D9C49F5@mindspring.com> <1151085687.60970.145.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <6E6CEC56-DE5A-410E-ABAC-2A2DE18BEE36@yapcchicago.org> > Josh says we can get them at the registration. I am going to > "Try" to park in the visitors metered section by the building. > Look at the map link on the wiki. Under advice from IIT we should park in the lot east of SSV/south of MSV. They will not enforce parking in that lot until 10:00 a.m. Monday, hopefully giving everyone time to get a parking pass. From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 23 23:30:30 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 01:30:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <319C1A28-8496-4855-A75F-F850B57F981A@yapcchicago.org> > The GREEN line and the ORANGE line share some stations up near the > loop. > I'm hazy on the specifics, but it might include ROOSEVELT. If so, take > the orange to Roosevelt, and transfer to a southbound (mumble 63rd) > green train to IIT. MUCH, much easier than "Oh, catch an obscure > bus or > something". NO BUSSES!!! Take the ORANGE line to Roosevelt and take ANY GREEN line down or the RED line down. From the Orange, the Green will be easier (across the platform) From jrockway at uchicago.edu Sat Jun 24 00:01:21 2006 From: jrockway at uchicago.edu (Jonathan T. Rockway) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:01:21 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Elevated trains? What will they come up with next? In-Reply-To: <319C1A28-8496-4855-A75F-F850B57F981A@yapcchicago.org> References: <1151077931.25002.5.camel@umbreon.provo.novell.com> <20060623105505.V41483@atbash.c2group.net> <449C27F3.6020905@mindspring.com> <319C1A28-8496-4855-A75F-F850B57F981A@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <449CE341.2050108@uchicago.edu> Since I was the one that mentioned the existence of the possibility of taking the bus (that's right, not "recommended" :) on the Wiki, I'd like to point out two things: 1. The #35 isn't "obscure"; it's one of the more popular routes. 2. 35/Archer is in Bridgeport, the neighborhood where you might notice the large mansions, and Daley's family. (There are some bad areas of Bridgeport, but 35/Archer isn't one of them. It's not a *nice oh wow* area either, but that's 99.99% of Chicago for you.) Take the L if you want, the transfer is free. Personally I'm afraid to take the green line, since it's so empty all the time. I used to take the red line to work (in Hyde Park, got off at 55th). In the morning, around 7am to 10am, it's 100% empty going south after Roosevelt. It's nice to have the train to yourself, it's not so nice to share it with one weirdo. A guy I work with was punched while on the green line around 35th. I was assulted on the Red Line between 35th and Cermak (this wasn't in the morning though, it was around 7:00 at night, when the train is equally empty but in the opposite direction.) In my experience, the busses are much safer (except for waiting). The bus driver will get rid of any weirdos by calling the police or yelling at them. The rail operators tend to ignore you. (I pushed the emergency call button when I was in trouble. The other person yelled over me saying that it was an accident and not to worry about the other person yelling in the background. Good enough for the operator, making minimum wage or whatever.) I'm just saying that the L isn't some rosy fairytale system like Tokyo or anything. IIT is on the south side, surrounded by housing projects. The south side has a reputation for a reason. Just keep that in mind. If you do take the bus, the bus actually pulls into a mini bus-terminal at 35/Archer, so you never even have to go outside. I'm not saying I recommend it, just saying that it's a good option, IMO :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Joshua McAdams wrote: >> The GREEN line and the ORANGE line share some stations up near the >> loop. >> I'm hazy on the specifics, but it might include ROOSEVELT. If so, take >> the orange to Roosevelt, and transfer to a southbound (mumble 63rd) >> green train to IIT. MUCH, much easier than "Oh, catch an obscure >> bus or >> something". > > > NO BUSSES!!! Take the ORANGE line to Roosevelt and take ANY GREEN > line down or the RED line down. From the Orange, the Green will be > easier (across the platform) > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sign up at http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?PerlEducatorsBof -Tim *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | UPCOMING CLASSES: 7/17: Hashes & Arrays 7/18-20: Intermed. Perl | | Watch for my Aug '06 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See MinimalPerl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* From MichaelRWolf at att.net Sat Jun 24 06:36:17 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:36:17 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Perl Educators/Authors BOF In-Reply-To: <20060624132220.GA14768@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: I'll see you there. I'm especially interested in what folks are doing with the Perl6 modules, either in their current classes, or what their future plans are. I've currently got a contract to rewrite a Perl course. I'm using Damian's PBP to drive out some of the more egregious constructs, some of which have been hanging around since Pink-Perl (i.e. Perl4) days, and are carry-overs from VB coding practices. Disclaimer: it's not my material, and the author appeared to be neither a programmer nor a Perl programmer. But this is still an issue for a lot of trainers: how do you teach new styles with old course material. Michael -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From maxmohun at speakeasy.net Sat Jun 24 07:37:10 2006 From: maxmohun at speakeasy.net (Maximilian Mohun) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:37:10 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <449D4E16.7010608@speakeasy.net> Joshua McAdams wrote: >> I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the >> classes afterwards. >> > > Eek, unfortunately the timing might work against you. If you can't > find someone with extra space in the dorms there are probably some > hotels with space.... anyone out there booked a hotel in Chicago > recently? > > If your looking for the cheap http://www.hichicago.com might be free. Is there a promotional code to make staying there free? My understanding is that it is $34 a night. Is anyone else from the conference staying there? From bradoaks at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 07:54:33 2006 From: bradoaks at gmail.com (Brad Oaks) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:54:33 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: <449D4E16.7010608@speakeasy.net> References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> <449D4E16.7010608@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: I beleive Josh intended the *available* meaning of the word "free". Hostelling appeared to be the least expensive option back when I looked. Hope to see you there, --bradoaks On 6/24/06, Maximilian Mohun wrote: > Joshua McAdams wrote: > > >> I am looking for a place to stay to attend the conference and the > >> classes afterwards. > >> > > > > Eek, unfortunately the timing might work against you. If you can't > > find someone with extra space in the dorms there are probably some > > hotels with space.... anyone out there booked a hotel in Chicago > > recently? > > > > If your looking for the cheap http://www.hichicago.com might be free. > > > Is there a promotional code to make staying there free? My > understanding is that it is $34 a night. > > Is anyone else from the conference staying there? > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- "i was unable to summon the help of the devil. therefore the quiz is easier than i would like it to be." -- g-c rota From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 09:48:51 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:48:51 -0500 Subject: [yapc] gym? In-Reply-To: <4ad4005e0606230713j73cac8cfs7fc8379f4089f36@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad4005e0606230713j73cac8cfs7fc8379f4089f36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C277AFA-9DEA-495E-9ADD-DE646D918D05@yapcchicago.org> > Does anyone know if there is a gym/weight room on the IIT campus? > If there is, do we have to pay extra to use it and what are the > opening hours? There is a gym that we'll have free access to. I'm not sure of the hours though. From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 10:10:57 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:10:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: > it is just so much easier to corral onto one train to goose island. > but > we can have an impromptu vote as we gather up. still haven't picked > which dorm is best for this. anyone know their lobby setups? I think both are secured, so it might be best to meet up in the lobby of the student center between the two dorms. From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 11:24:58 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:24:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Need a dorm room In-Reply-To: References: <449C6FF7.5060008@speakeasy.net> <449D4E16.7010608@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <724E0BAC-BD1D-411A-91E2-AB40B3D4FA66@yapcchicago.org> > I beleive Josh intended the *available* meaning of the word "free". > Hostelling appeared to be the least expensive option back when I > looked. Correct, "available" would have been a better word to use. Sorry for the confusion. Free is a very overloaded word :) From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 11:33:32 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:33:32 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking Message-ID: I can't remember if I've announced this yet, but IIT will not be ticketing people who park in the lot east of SSV south of 33rd St. between State and Wabash over the weekend up until 10:30 a.m. Monday morning. This should give everyone who doesn't have a parking pass some time to get one. From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 11:50:47 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:50:47 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: > i never intended for all arrival dinner people to meet up at the dorm, > just those for which that makes sense. i do expect some common sense > from a few of you. after all you code in perl and not python, that > means > you can also read a map! Oh, it looks like Uri didn't have plans for a meet-up before the arrival dinner in order to travel together. In that case, if this hasn't already been decided, let's say that we will leave at 6:00 p.m. from the McCormick Tribune Campus Center (#2 on this map http:// www.yapcchicago.org/media/iit_campus.jpg). Meet at the lobby closest to the 7-11. From kent at c2group.net Sat Jun 24 12:05:58 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:05:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: Hang on - yes, Uri had a super sekrit plan for everyone _staying_at_the_dorms_ to meet & travel together. Detailed at length in a prior email. In this particular snippet, he was talking about groups of people who 1) wanted to go to the arrival dinner, and 2) were NOT staying at the dorms, and/or 3) were arriving a bit too late to go to the dorms first. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Jun 24, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> i never intended for all arrival dinner people to meet up at the >> dorm, >> just those for which that makes sense. i do expect some common sense >> from a few of you. after all you code in perl and not python, that >> means >> you can also read a map! > > Oh, it looks like Uri didn't have plans for a meet-up before the > arrival dinner in order to travel together. In that case, if this > hasn't already been decided, let's say that we will leave at 6:00 > p.m. from the McCormick Tribune Campus Center (#2 on this map http:// > www.yapcchicago.org/media/iit_campus.jpg). Meet at the lobby closest > to the 7-11. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 12:07:49 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:07:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70606241207v2ae2e830r70acc8e597e206b4@mail.gmail.com> > Hang on - yes, Uri had a super sekrit plan for everyone > _staying_at_the_dorms_ to meet & travel together. Detailed at length > in a prior email. > > In this particular snippet, he was talking about groups of people who > 1) wanted to go to the arrival dinner, and 2) were NOT staying at the > dorms, and/or 3) were arriving a bit too late to go to the dorms first. Thanks! I hadn't seen that email yet and now probably confused everyone.... ooops From scott at slowass.net Sat Jun 24 12:38:11 2006 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:38:11 +0000 Subject: [yapc] oreilly In-Reply-To: <541E601A-CD1E-4FC3-98FE-7361E0F34737@yapcchicago.org> References: <541E601A-CD1E-4FC3-98FE-7361E0F34737@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060624193810.GK29588@illogics.org> Ahh, I'd encourage doing so. ORA has a catalog of course, but no bookstore here in the Phoenix area has anything near a recent or large selection of ORA titles. Perl books at any joint probably number no more than a dozen. -scott On 0, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > will o'reilly be selling books? > > None of the publishers will be at the conference selling books, > though maybe we should let them since they are consistently some of > the best sponsors. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From uri at stemsystems.com Sat Jun 24 12:30:00 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:30:00 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: (Kent Cowgill's message of "Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:05:58 -0500") References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "KC" == Kent Cowgill writes: KC> Hang on - yes, Uri had a super sekrit plan for everyone KC> _staying_at_the_dorms_ to meet & travel together. Detailed at length KC> in a prior email. KC> In this particular snippet, he was talking about groups of people who KC> 1) wanted to go to the arrival dinner, and 2) were NOT staying at the KC> dorms, and/or 3) were arriving a bit too late to go to the dorms first. and now that i am safely ensconced in my bunker (all concrete!) in ssv, i can see that the green line is next door. meeting up at the mccormick center does seem like a better idea than the going to the red line. but what the hell do i know, i live in boston. more to follow so stay tuned. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From kent at c2group.net Sat Jun 24 12:39:22 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:39:22 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: Just starting a "people already here and checking their email and want to get together" thread. Pipe up if interested :) -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Jun 24, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > and now that i am safely ensconced in my bunker (all concrete!) in > ssv, > i can see that the green line is next door. meeting up at the > mccormick > center does seem like a better idea than the going to the red line. > but > what the hell do i know, i live in boston. > > more to follow so stay tuned. From waltman at pobox.com Sat Jun 24 12:52:21 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:52:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008385@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <92904398-6F65-4371-98B8-83CBD5BA97FE@shopzilla.com> Message-ID: <20060624195221.GA11825@mawode.com> On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 02:39:22PM -0500, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Just starting a "people already here and checking their email and > want to get together" thread. 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Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 15:10:08 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:10:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking In-Reply-To: <1151184710.60254.17.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> References: <1151184710.60254.17.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <26621540-18F8-4E6B-AAFC-77B02681C59E@yapcchicago.org> > Can you get a one day pass? Yes. Parking is $10/day and are sold in 1-day increments. From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 15:16:50 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:16:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Fwd: YAPC Conference Question References: <0CBC78C650880D44AB7E7E060A83D63011F39FFD@mawi-exch1.int.usc.local> Message-ID: <8F7D16A9-53B1-492F-A12D-077F76D84A82@yapcchicago.org> > Interesting note about the Best Western River North: They will claim to be full if you call and as about the IIT discount, but you can book online and then call them and have the discount applied. > Thank you for the response Joshua. I was able to secure > accommodations at the Best Western River North hotel. It was in a > list of hotels that you could get an IIT discount at per their > website. However, when I called to make the reservation, which was > required to get the discount, they claimed to be booked. I then > easily booked it online for a higher rate and had to call to get > the IIT rate. 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We will have at least one copy of most of the current Perl titles available at our Tuesday night dinner and auction, so you could flip through a few of them there. As far as bookstores that carry a lot of Perl books, I don't think there are any here. There is a Powells, but it's nothing like the one in Portland that everyone seems to love to go to. Anybody know of any good tech bookstores here in town? From scott at slowass.net Sat Jun 24 15:34:27 2006 From: scott at slowass.net (Scott Walters) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:34:27 +0000 Subject: [yapc] Perl6:: modules / Re: Perl Educators/Authors BOF In-Reply-To: <20060624133710.3F98D1779B@x6.develooper.com> References: <20060624132220.GA14768@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> <20060624133710.3F98D1779B@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <20060624223427.GL29588@illogics.org> I'll do my damndest to be there, and Michael, I'd like to draw your attention to my _Perl 6 Now: The Core Ideas Illustrated with Perl 5_ / http://perl6now.com if I may. It's basically a book *about* the Perl6:: modules, and other Perl 5 modules whose functionality becomes core in Perl 6, such as PDL, typesafety.pm, Quantum::Supposition, etc. I wrote my Perl6::Contexts while working on this sucker. On 0, "Michael R. Wolf" wrote: > I'll see you there. > > I'm especially interested in what folks are doing with the Perl6 modules, > either in their current classes, or what their future plans are. > > I've currently got a contract to rewrite a Perl course. I'm using Damian's > PBP to drive out some of the more egregious constructs, some of which have > been hanging around since Pink-Perl (i.e. Perl4) days, and are carry-overs > from VB coding practices. Disclaimer: it's not my material, and the author > appeared to be neither a programmer nor a Perl programmer. But this is > still an issue for a lot of trainers: how do you teach new styles with old > course material. > > Michael > > -- > Michael R. Wolf > All mammals learn by playing! > MichaelRWolf at att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From ann at domaintje.com Sat Jun 24 15:24:29 2006 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [yapc] gym? In-Reply-To: <8C277AFA-9DEA-495E-9ADD-DE646D918D05@yapcchicago.org> References: <4ad4005e0606230713j73cac8cfs7fc8379f4089f36@mail.gmail.com> <8C277AFA-9DEA-495E-9ADD-DE646D918D05@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060624162322.C32050@cerin.biocede.com> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is a gym/weight room on the IIT campus? >> If there is, do we have to pay extra to use it and what are the >> opening hours? > > There is a gym that we'll have free access to. I'm not sure of the > hours though. The gym is 'Keating' on the map. It is open 09:00 - 15:00 on weekends and 07:30 - 10:00 on the weekdays. I have not checked out the facilities yet...kind of disappointed that they open so late, no time to work out before talks start :( From trey at lopsa.org Sat Jun 24 15:30:36 2006 From: trey at lopsa.org (Trey Harris) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20060624153021.P21435@bowser.eecs.harvard.edu> In a message dated Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Randal L. Schwartz writes: >>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman writes: > > Uri> we will get on a redline train and take it to the stop nearest goose > Uri> island (the one for wrigley park as goose island is near there). > > For those of us staying *in* the loop, can you tell me which direction from > this red stop I should go, and what time to meet (7pm?). Ditto. Maybe the Club Quarters folks want to make a time to meet in the hotel lobby and head out together? Trey From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 15:37:43 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:37:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <17B73DA7-F42C-403B-8221-4FB4D718F971@yapcchicago.org> > > For those of us staying *in* the loop, can you tell me which > direction from > this red stop I should go, and what time to meet (7pm?). There are some directions and links at http://www.yapcchicago.org/ wiki/index.cgi?ArrivalDinner Basically "Addison stop on the Red line is closest: CTA North Side map. Exit station heading west on Addison, towards Wrigley Field. Turn left (south) on Clark, away from Wrigley." From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sat Jun 24 15:39:56 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 24 Jun 2006 15:39:56 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Fwd: YAPC Conference Question In-Reply-To: <8F7D16A9-53B1-492F-A12D-077F76D84A82@yapcchicago.org> References: <0CBC78C650880D44AB7E7E060A83D63011F39FFD@mawi-exch1.int.usc.local> <8F7D16A9-53B1-492F-A12D-077F76D84A82@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <86lkrm9o03.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua McAdams writes: Joshua> Interesting note about the Best Western River North: They will claim Joshua> to be full if you call and as about the IIT discount, but you can book Joshua> online and then call them and have the discount applied. The real question is what will happen when you get there. They could conveniently have "no record of your reservation". :) Might want to call them on the phone to "confirm" your reservation right after you make it on the computer. [says the frequent traveller] -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From sendwade at hotmail.com Sat Jun 24 15:57:55 2006 From: sendwade at hotmail.com (Todd W) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:57:55 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Fwd: YAPC Conference Question References: <0CBC78C650880D44AB7E7E060A83D63011F39FFD@mawi-exch1.int.usc.local><8F7D16A9-53B1-492F-A12D-077F76D84A82@yapcchicago.org> <86lkrm9o03.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: From: "Randal L. Schwartz" >>>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua McAdams writes: > > > Joshua> Interesting note about the Best Western River North: They will > claim > Joshua> to be full if you call and as about the IIT discount, but you can > book > Joshua> online and then call them and have the discount applied. > > The real question is what will happen when you get there. They could > conveniently have "no record of your reservation". :) > > Might want to call them on the phone to "confirm" your reservation right > after > you make it on the computer. > I think his suggestion covers that when you call to get the discount applied after booking online, no? Todd W. From jose.castro at log.pt Sat Jun 24 16:31:33 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:31:33 +0100 Subject: [yapc] I have arrived! :-) Message-ID: <9368f8ca252ee8de031fd7605a97f091@log.pt> I have arrived, I'm at the MSV (Barbie's here too) and there's wifi in the bedroom (I still don't know whether I'll be charged for using it; can anyone answer this?) Oh boy, oh boy :-) Everything looks great so far :-) Cheers, jac PS: And I already have one of my three talks ready! :-) ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From jt at plainblack.com Sat Jun 24 17:30:58 2006 From: jt at plainblack.com (JT Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:30:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] website down Message-ID: Am I the only one that cannot get to the web site? In fact, it seems that the name server's aren't responding for yapcchicago.org JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage From andy at petdance.com Sat Jun 24 17:35:41 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:35:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] website down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13BA1F89-78E2-4697-9A16-19706AA9688D@petdance.com> On Jun 24, 2006, at 7:30 PM, JT Smith wrote: > Am I the only one that cannot get to the web site? In fact, it > seems that the name > server's aren't responding for yapcchicago.org I just called Pete. He's on it. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From emoore at combinenet.com Sat Jun 24 17:40:36 2006 From: emoore at combinenet.com (emoore at combinenet.com) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:40:36 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? Message-ID: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> In my long ago experience with colleges, I seem to recall that pillows and blankets and sheets and what-not are a thing that you make happen. Not a thing that just happens to you. The soft life of hotels has spoiled me. Am I correct to assume I should pack a pillow and my special blanky? Ed -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From andy at petdance.com Sat Jun 24 18:10:09 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:10:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Make useful user pages, please Message-ID: The point of having a page on the wiki is so that people know who you are, and can get in touch with you. Pages like this: http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi? YuvalKogman are really stinky, because they are entirely content-free and don't let the reader know what email address to send the TPF onion graphics to. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Sat Jun 24 18:19:52 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Helpful info pages Message-ID: Allow me to elaborate on my previous message. The specific page I referred to was the cause of my message, but not my main point. The key is: The wiki is there for us to help us contact each other as we get together at YAPC. You can make the most of the wiki by telling about you, or how to contact you, or why you're here, or whatever. That kind of information can help lead to good contacts, and good conversation. Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From david.romano at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:35:37 2006 From: david.romano at gmail.com (David Romano) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:35:37 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <441079bd0606241835k747182cewca089fc5731bc7a6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Ed, On 6/24/06, emoore at combinenet.com wrote: > In my long ago experience with colleges, I seem to recall that pillows and > blankets and sheets and what-not are a thing that you make happen. Not a > thing that just happens to you. > > The soft life of hotels has spoiled me. Am I correct to assume I should > pack a pillow and my special blanky? I'm in SSV and a pillow and blanket are provided. But don't let that stop you from bringing your special blanky. ;-) David From ann at domaintje.com Sat Jun 24 18:36:45 2006 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:36:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> My room (in MSV) came with sheets, blanket, pillows, towels and a little bar of soap. The only problem I've noted so far is that I (and others) cannot connect to irc directly, but must ssh to another machine and use it there. Otherwise the wireless works fine. On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, emoore at combinenet.com wrote: > In my long ago experience with colleges, I seem to recall that pillows and > blankets and sheets and what-not are a thing that you make happen. Not a > thing that just happens to you. > > The soft life of hotels has spoiled me. Am I correct to assume I should > pack a pillow and my special blanky? > > Ed > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From david.romano at gmail.com Sat Jun 24 18:43:12 2006 From: david.romano at gmail.com (David Romano) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:43:12 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: <441079bd0606241835k747182cewca089fc5731bc7a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> <441079bd0606241835k747182cewca089fc5731bc7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441079bd0606241843y7cb0f810j998802ec1339eacb@mail.gmail.com> On 6/24/06, David Romano wrote: > Hi Ed, > On 6/24/06, emoore at combinenet.com wrote: > > In my long ago experience with colleges, I seem to recall that pillows and > > blankets and sheets and what-not are a thing that you make happen. Not a > > thing that just happens to you. > > > > The soft life of hotels has spoiled me. Am I correct to assume I should > > pack a pillow and my special blanky? > I'm in SSV and a pillow and blanket are provided. But don't let that > stop you from bringing your special blanky. ;-) Oops, I'm meant MSV. (Thanks for reminding me Ann) David From beth at loxosceles.org Sat Jun 24 19:07:30 2006 From: beth at loxosceles.org (Beth Skwarecki) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:07:30 -0400 Subject: [yapc] anti-arrival dinner Message-ID: <20060625020730.GW31499@highsorcery.com> Tomorrow is the anti-arrival dinner and yet there are no plans on its wiki page, just debate and indecision! Those in favor of something cheap and veggie-friendly, want to meet me in the lobby (is there a lobby?) of SSV around 7ish? -beth -- Beth Skwarecki http://loxosceles.org Bioinformatics Analyst, http://sgn.cornell.edu print map {$x=$!=$_; $x=~s/[b-gik-oq-z]//ig; $x} (66,56,62,113) From autarch at urth.org Sat Jun 24 19:09:02 2006 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:09:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] anti-arrival dinner In-Reply-To: <20060625020730.GW31499@highsorcery.com> References: <20060625020730.GW31499@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Beth Skwarecki wrote: > Those in favor of something cheap and veggie-friendly, want to meet me in > the lobby (is there a lobby?) of SSV around 7ish? I'll probably be there, assuming my flight isn't massively delayed. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From bruce.gray at acm.org Sat Jun 24 19:49:01 2006 From: bruce.gray at acm.org (Bruce Gray) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:49:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] anti-arrival dinner In-Reply-To: References: <20060625020730.GW31499@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:09:02 -0500 (CDT), Dave Rolsky wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Beth Skwarecki wrote: > >> Those in favor of something cheap and veggie-friendly, want to meet me in >> the lobby (is there a lobby?) of SSV around 7ish? > >I'll probably be there, assuming my flight isn't massively delayed. > >-dave I plan to be there, too. -- Bruce Gray Util of PerlMonks From amead at alanmead.org Sat Jun 24 20:08:46 2006 From: amead at alanmead.org (Alan Mead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:08:46 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking In-Reply-To: <26621540-18F8-4E6B-AAFC-77B02681C59E@yapcchicago.org> References: <1151184710.60254.17.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <26621540-18F8-4E6B-AAFC-77B02681C59E@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <449DFE3E.5060009@alanmead.org> Joshua McAdams wrote: >>Can you get a one day pass? > > > Yes. Parking is $10/day and are sold in 1-day increments. ... and they told me that a three-day pass is $24. And the parking office is on the second floor of Hermann hall, room 201. -- Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. : amead at alanmead.org : 815-588-3846 A statistician, who refused to fly after reading of the alarmingly high probability that there will be a bomb on any given plane, realized that the probability of there being two bombs on any given flight is very low. Now, whenever he flies, he carries a bomb with him. From rspier at pobox.com Sat Jun 24 20:50:48 2006 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:50:48 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Job Fair (and shameless plug) Message-ID: I can't find the details on the website, but for the first time, there will be a Job fair at YAPC this year. It's Tuesday afternoon in Herman Hall. The shameless plug starts here: If you're interested in working for Google, we'll be there. We're looking for talented folk of the programmer and sysadmin (and both!) variety. You can swing by our booth (where there will be lots of swag) or find me during the conference. (I'll be wearing a Google t-shirt -- and lots of folks know who I am anyway.) The shameless plug is now over. There will also be several other great companies at the Job fair, so even if Google isn't your bag, I suggest stopping by. (Also, I personally know a few non-Google companies looking for Perl folk, to whom I'd be happy to refer you to.) -R From josh at yapcchicago.org Sat Jun 24 22:39:18 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:39:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Bongo Room Message-ID: <032B220F-BB85-4BDB-A915-8A181A2EF7B8@yapcchicago.org> There are a few of us heading over to the Bongo room at 11 for brunch. It's on the corner of Roosevelt and Wabash, across from Starbucks. http://centerstage.net/restaurants/room12.html From hwigoda at mindspring.com Sun Jun 25 00:03:51 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:03:51 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival dinner herding In-Reply-To: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86sllu9px1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: take the red line north and get off at addison, walk west to clark street, turn left onto clark and it is the 2nd or 3rd bar on the right (west). On Jun 24, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman writes: > > Uri> we will get on a redline train and take it to the stop nearest > goose > Uri> island (the one for wrigley park as goose island is near there). > > For those of us staying *in* the loop, can you tell me which > direction from > this red stop I should go, and what time to meet (7pm?). > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl > training! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From hwigoda at mindspring.com Sun Jun 25 00:05:10 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:05:10 -0500 Subject: [yapc] oreilly In-Reply-To: References: <541E601A-CD1E-4FC3-98FE-7361E0F34737@yapcchicago.org> <20060624193810.GK29588@illogics.org> Message-ID: microcenter( city and suburbs) and frye's ( suburb). On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Ahh, I'd encourage doing so. ORA has a catalog of course, but no >> bookstore here in the Phoenix area has anything near a recent or >> large selection of ORA titles. Perl books at any joint probably >> number no more than a dozen. > > Yeah, it's a little late for us to arrange for the publishers to > send us titles to sell this year. May whoever wins the bid next > year can set something up. > > We will have at least one copy of most of the current Perl titles > available at our Tuesday night dinner and auction, so you could > flip through a few of them there. > > As far as bookstores that carry a lot of Perl books, I don't think > there are any here. There is a Powells, but it's nothing like the > one in Portland that everyone seems to love to go to. Anybody know > of any good tech bookstores here in town? > From hwigoda at mindspring.com Sun Jun 25 00:13:50 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:13:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking In-Reply-To: <449DFE3E.5060009@alanmead.org> References: <1151184710.60254.17.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <26621540-18F8-4E6B-AAFC-77B02681C59E@yapcchicago.org> <449DFE3E.5060009@alanmead.org> Message-ID: <5D4FE8CE-AAE6-4CA8-9F2D-7DE1C7756C84@mindspring.com> can i go over to the campus and get the parking pass on sunday? On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Alan Mead wrote: > Joshua McAdams wrote: >>> Can you get a one day pass? >> >> >> Yes. Parking is $10/day and are sold in 1-day increments. > > ... and they told me that a three-day pass is $24. > > And the parking office is on the second floor of Hermann hall, room > 201. > > -- > Alan D. Mead, Ph.D. : amead at alanmead.org : 815-588-3846 > > A statistician, who refused to fly after reading of the alarmingly > high > probability that there will be a bomb on any given plane, realized > that > the probability of there being two bombs on any given flight is very > low. Now, whenever he flies, he carries a bomb with him. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From andrewrodland at comcast.net Sun Jun 25 00:17:59 2006 From: andrewrodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:17:59 -0500 Subject: [yapc] oreilly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200606250218.00023.andrewrodland@comcast.net> On Sunday 25 June 2006 02:05, Hal Wigoda wrote: > [Q: Buying tech books. Un-top-posted.] > microcenter( city and suburbs) and frye's ( suburb). Borders actually has a decent selection. But yeah, Fry's out in Downers is pretty well loaded. A bunch of geeks could spend some serious money there, and not just on books. Andrew From dha at panix.com Sun Jun 25 01:32:53 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:32:53 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Reply to address? In-Reply-To: <7AF21E85-4FA4-4C5A-87C7-4A35F93C925E@yapcchicago.org> References: <449C28AF.7030702@mindspring.com> <7AF21E85-4FA4-4C5A-87C7-4A35F93C925E@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060625083253.GA12260@panix.com> On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 01:19:33AM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > Could we PLEASE have a reply-to address in the list postings, so that > > replies to a posting on the list GO TO THE LIST? > > If I knew how, I would... until then... 'Reply All' Or, in mutt, at least, L for list reply. dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ however, if people don't like Perl, they don't have to use it. they can stay at the office solving their problems while the Perl Mongers go out and drink. ;) - brian d foy in c.l.p.misc From jbisbee at gmail.com Sun Jun 25 02:55:41 2006 From: jbisbee at gmail.com (Jeff Bisbee) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:55:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> Message-ID: On 6/24/06, Ann Barcomb wrote: > The only problem I've noted so far is that I (and others) cannot > connect to irc directly, but must ssh to another machine and use > it there. Otherwise the wireless works fine. Anyway we could get this issue addressed before the conference begins? I use X-Chat as my client and although I can create a socks-proxy back to my server in West Palm Beach, its slow and a general PITA. At one point in time, I had a list of the servers irc.perl.org round robined, but I'm not sure anymore. Robert any chance you could get an updated list of what servers irc.perl.org actually represents (just so we can pass it off to IIT's campus computing?) -- Jeff Bisbee / jbisbee at gmail.com / jbisbee.com From tallison at tacocat.net Sun Jun 25 04:23:21 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:23:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] SSV Message-ID: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> Just where (address) is SSV? I can't actually find an address suitable for Google maps. Right now I'm thinking 3300 S Federal is close enough and then I'll just wing it. But having something more specific would be useful. From waltman at pobox.com Sun Jun 25 04:31:08 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:31:08 -0400 Subject: [yapc] SSV In-Reply-To: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> References: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> Message-ID: <20060625113108.GB27581@mawode.com> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:23:21AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Just where (address) is SSV? > I can't actually find an address suitable for Google maps. > > Right now I'm thinking 3300 S Federal is close enough and then I'll just wing > it. But having something more specific would be useful. Looks closer to 33rd and State on the campus map. Definitely on the other side of State from Federal. Walt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We'll at least have some brochures at the job fair, but, better still, buttonhole either Steve Lembark or me. (We're both doing presentations, so you have no excuse for not finding us.) Cheetahmail currently has tech offices in New York and El Segundo, CA. We have a sales office in London, are opening one in the SF Bay Area ... and where sales offices open, tech offices tend to follow. Jim Keenan From josh at yapcchicago.org Sun Jun 25 05:18:50 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:18:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] SSV In-Reply-To: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> References: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> Message-ID: <204797F6-6D4E-4827-89D0-60BA41C514AA@yapcchicago.org> > Just where (address) is SSV? > I can't actually find an address suitable for Google maps. > > Right now I'm thinking 3300 S Federal is close enough and then I'll > just wing > it. But having something more specific would be useful. 3301 S. State Street, IL 60616 From josh at yapcchicago.org Sun Jun 25 05:21:23 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:21:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Parking In-Reply-To: <5D4FE8CE-AAE6-4CA8-9F2D-7DE1C7756C84@mindspring.com> References: <1151184710.60254.17.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org> <26621540-18F8-4E6B-AAFC-77B02681C59E@yapcchicago.org> <449DFE3E.5060009@alanmead.org> <5D4FE8CE-AAE6-4CA8-9F2D-7DE1C7756C84@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > can i go over to the campus and get the parking pass on sunday? Possibly. If not, you can get one Monday morning during registration. Just park in the lot immediately behind SSV until then. From steve at fisharerojo.org Sun Jun 25 05:54:45 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:54:45 -0500 Subject: [yapc] SSV In-Reply-To: <204797F6-6D4E-4827-89D0-60BA41C514AA@yapcchicago.org> References: <449E7229.60103@tacocat.net> <204797F6-6D4E-4827-89D0-60BA41C514AA@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <20060625125445.GA6937@fisharerojo.org> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:18:50AM -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > Just where (address) is SSV? > > I can't actually find an address suitable for Google maps. > > > > Right now I'm thinking 3300 S Federal is close enough and then I'll > > just wing > > it. But having something more specific would be useful. > > 3301 S. State Street, IL 60616 > Just so the other out-of-town drivers know, there is a White Sox game tonight, and the same exits off the I90/94 to use for IIT will also be used by people going to the game. It should start getting busy by 4pm, but should quiet by 7pm. Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From jose.castro at log.pt Sun Jun 25 05:54:20 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:54:20 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Something wrong with the website menu Message-ID: Correct me if I'm wrong, but... if registration is now closed, isn't it weird that the menu on the website now has two sections called "Registration"? :-) jac ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From jose.castro at log.pt Sun Jun 25 05:55:54 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:55:54 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> Message-ID: On Jun 25, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Ann Barcomb wrote: > My room (in MSV) came with sheets, blanket, pillows, towels and a > little > bar of soap. Hey, where's my bar of soap? OTOH, I have a small plastic cup. jac > The only problem I've noted so far is that I (and others) cannot > connect to irc directly, but must ssh to another machine and use > it there. Otherwise the wireless works fine. > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, emoore at combinenet.com wrote: > >> In my long ago experience with colleges, I seem to recall that >> pillows and >> blankets and sheets and what-not are a thing that you make happen. >> Not a >> thing that just happens to you. >> >> The soft life of hotels has spoiled me. Am I correct to assume I >> should >> pack a pillow and my special blanky? >> >> Ed >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From adeltac at valueclick.com Sun Jun 25 06:50:11 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:50:11 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Cell Phone Charger Message-ID: I forgot the charger for my cell phone - I should be fine until tomorrow (Monday) night. Does anyone in the MSV dorms perchance have a charger that they would let me plug in to? My phone is a NEXTEL i760 (big bulky thing). Thanks much, Aran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060625/ee13ed68/attachment.html From ann at domaintje.com Sun Jun 25 07:59:10 2006 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [yapc] Bedding in the Dorms? In-Reply-To: References: <380-22006602504036875@M2W015.mail2web.com> <20060624193509.S37054@cerin.biocede.com> Message-ID: <20060625085828.Q92816@cerin.biocede.com> Mine was in the bottom of the bag with towels. Of course I only found it after I had gone to the grocery store and purchaed some soap.. On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Jose Castro wrote: > Hey, where's my bar of soap? From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Sun Jun 25 11:08:47 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:08:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] I have Arrived - SSV Dorm Message-ID: <449E98EF02000041000128AA@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Folks, I'm here. Room 503 Middle South SSV Dorm. Went to both of the other dorms and finally got sent to the right one. Sorry I missed the lunch group Josh. I would give out my cell number, but it's a 919 area code and ya'll wouldn't appreciate the long distance fees. 8=) Bill From zrusilla at mac.com Sun Jun 25 12:01:24 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:01:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Nola and Liz here Message-ID: <0bc04159ff217532f393a9276ab707c5@mac.com> Girls! MSV, 409. From yapc at geoffeg.org Sun Jun 25 12:08:29 2006 From: yapc at geoffeg.org (Geoffrey Gallaway) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:08:29 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Geoffrey Gallaway (geoffeg) Message-ID: <20060625190829.GA22994@sin.sloth.org> In 203 MSV.. the current party room. :) From pcory at wcpss.net Sun Jun 25 12:14:22 2006 From: pcory at wcpss.net (Paul Cory) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:14:22 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Paul Cory (geoffeg) In-Reply-To: <20060625190829.GA22994@sin.sloth.org> References: <20060625190829.GA22994@sin.sloth.org> Message-ID: For the record, I'm here, in MSV 314. And now, off to the liquor store! Paul From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 25 12:21:12 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:21:12 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival herding from dorms Message-ID: hi all, after being here for a day, the better plan is to take the green line from campus. so we will start gathering at 5pm in the mccormick student center (under the green line el). we will leave there at 6pm and take the green line 1 stop to roosevelt. there is a free transfer down the stairs to the underground red line. we take that north to addison and walk west a couple of blocks to clark and goose island should be right about there. josh has some walkie talkies we will give out to those who can navigate by the stars and moon. see ya at mccormick in less than 3 hours. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From hwigoda at mindspring.com Sun Jun 25 12:34:03 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:34:03 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Nola and Liz here In-Reply-To: <0bc04159ff217532f393a9276ab707c5@mac.com> References: <0bc04159ff217532f393a9276ab707c5@mac.com> Message-ID: <49802EC1-964D-44C0-8022-BBC2C5A69220@mindspring.com> oh baby. On Jun 25, 2006, at 2:01 PM, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Girls! MSV, 409. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sun Jun 25 12:41:24 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 25 Jun 2006 12:41:24 -0700 Subject: [yapc] arrival herding from dorms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86mzc181ln.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman writes: Uri> after being here for a day, the better plan is to take the green line Uri> from campus. so we will start gathering at 5pm in the mccormick student Uri> center (under the green line el). we will leave there at 6pm and take Uri> the green line 1 stop to roosevelt. there is a free transfer down the Uri> stairs to the underground red line. we take that north to addison and Uri> walk west a couple of blocks to clark and goose island should be right Uri> about there. I'll be getting on the red line at the Monroe stop, so be sure you're visible through the windows... I'll wait until I see the geektrain. :) Laser Pointers might work... Hmm. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From greg at rimmkaufman.com Sun Jun 25 13:20:01 2006 From: greg at rimmkaufman.com (Gregory Brennan) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:20:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo ma in free concert at millennium park Message-ID: <1151266801.6443.5.camel@lapierre> I would be interested in seeing this. Anyone else? -Greg -- Greg Brennan Director of Information Systems www.rimmkaufman.com greg.brennanAT rimmkaufman.com (434) 970-1010 Ex. 112 From sendwade at hotmail.com Sun Jun 25 13:42:31 2006 From: sendwade at hotmail.com (Todd W) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:42:31 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Helpful info pages References: Message-ID: From: "Andy Lester" > > Allow me to elaborate on my previous message. The specific page I > referred to was the cause of my message, but not my main point. > > The key is: The wiki is there for us to help us contact each other as > we get together at YAPC. You can make the most of the wiki by > telling about you, or how to contact you, or why you're here, or > whatever. That kind of information can help lead to good contacts, > and good conversation. > Hi Andy, Since I know someone is reading, I populated my page :-) http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ToddWade See you tommorow! Todd W. From kag at citysource.com Sun Jun 25 15:09:00 2006 From: kag at citysource.com (Kenneth A Graves) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:09:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo mainfree concert at millennium park Message-ID: <200606252209.k5PM9v8B081053@citysource.com> greg at rimmkaufman.com wrote on 6/25/06 8:20 pm (GMT): >I would be interested in >seeing this. Anyone else? Yes. Do we want to gather together after dinner, or grab dinner together somewhere in the loop? --kag From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sun Jun 25 15:38:17 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 25 Jun 2006 15:38:17 -0700 Subject: [yapc] arrival herding from dorms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86d5cw97za.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman writes: Uri> after being here for a day, the better plan is to take the green line Uri> from campus. so we will start gathering at 5pm in the mccormick student Uri> center (under the green line el). we will leave there at 6pm and take Uri> the green line 1 stop to roosevelt. there is a free transfer down the Uri> stairs to the underground red line. we take that north to addison and Uri> walk west a couple of blocks to clark and goose island should be right Uri> about there. According to the image from google earth, it appears to be on the right side of clark (after you've turned southeast) about a block down from Wrigley Field. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tom at yarrish.com Sun Jun 25 17:20:15 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:20:15 -0500 Subject: [yapc] arrival herding from dorms In-Reply-To: <86d5cw97za.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86d5cw97za.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman writes: > > Uri> after being here for a day, the better plan is to take the > green line > Uri> from campus. so we will start gathering at 5pm in the > mccormick student > Uri> center (under the green line el). we will leave there at 6pm > and take > Uri> the green line 1 stop to roosevelt. there is a free transfer > down the > Uri> stairs to the underground red line. we take that north to > addison and > Uri> walk west a couple of blocks to clark and goose island should > be right > Uri> about there. > > According to the image from google earth, it appears to be on the > right side > of clark (after you've turned southeast) about a block down from > Wrigley > Field. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl > training! > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Yes, once you get off the Red Line, head towards Wrigley Field (you can't miss it) and you'll be heading west. The second light (because there's one right as soon as you get out of the train station) is Clark and you make a left turn (heading south) and you'll see it. We crucify ourselves between two thieves- regret for yesterday and fear of tomorrow. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEnyhEZWzkfeDiTw4RAtkcAJ9bVYCv38lczuBA0BovZrupyCFkgQCdGR7m t0KqiqobN1ISljPqLYwOFVc= =ly+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Sun Jun 25 18:40:13 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:40:13 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Finally here Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0100838C@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> I finally made it here! MSV 215. Plane got a late start (imagine that!). I'll be looking for Josh so I can store my Shiner Bock for the BeersOfTheWorldBOF. I can't get on to irc, but I saw someone mention that they had to ssh into another computer and get on from there. Needless to say, I don't have that luxury (at least not to my knowledge). If anyone can help me get on irc, I'd greatly appreciate it. Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <75c1d03e0606251944v6e95c76aqd487c3faf1e2ccbc@mail.gmail.com> National Airport in DC wasclosed by thunderstorms. My flight will not leave till 7:30 tomorrow morning, and get into OHare before 9am. I assume that the L is faster than a cab at that time. If I am wrong, tell me. Joe Davidson ( JoeDavidson ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060625/dd1e84b7/attachment.html From jim at jgcinteractive.com Sun Jun 25 20:36:32 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (jim at jgcinteractive.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] I won't be in till tomorrow morning, need advice. In-Reply-To: <75c1d03e0606251944v6e95c76aqd487c3faf1e2ccbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <75c1d03e0606251944v6e95c76aqd487c3faf1e2ccbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: For what it's worth, I bought my CTA visitor's pass at ~8:40PM (after quite a walk meanering from the terminal) and JUST arrived at the dorm at 10:00PM. I don't know if the L is any faster during the day, but this was indeed longer than I had expected. On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Joe Davidson wrote: > National Airport in DC wasclosed by thunderstorms. My flight will not leave > till 7:30 tomorrow morning, and get into OHare before 9am. I assume that > the L is faster than a cab at that time. > > If I am wrong, tell me. > > Joe Davidson ( JoeDavidson ) > From tom at yarrish.com Sun Jun 25 20:51:38 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:51:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] I won't be in till tomorrow morning, need advice. In-Reply-To: References: <75c1d03e0606251944v6e95c76aqd487c3faf1e2ccbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <927C3C71-0CE5-4B61-8CD4-7EA2D1A291E4@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:36 PM, jim at jgcinteractive.com wrote: > For what it's worth, I bought my CTA visitor's pass at ~8:40PM (after > quite a walk meanering from the terminal) and JUST arrived at the > dorm at > 10:00PM. I don't know if the L is any faster during the day, but > this was > indeed longer than I had expected. > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Joe Davidson wrote: > >> National Airport in DC wasclosed by thunderstorms. My flight will >> not leave >> till 7:30 tomorrow morning, and get into OHare before 9am. I >> assume that >> the L is faster than a cab at that time. >> >> If I am wrong, tell me. >> >> Joe Davidson ( JoeDavidson ) >> > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > Well, Blue Line from O'Hare to Downtown is typically 45 minutes. But around 9am you should be able to get a train pretty quickly. I'd plan on about another 30 minutes once you're downtown to switch trains and get to IIT. It's probably easier to switch to the Red Line once you get down into the loop, since it parallels the Blue Line there. However it's a little bit farther walk from the 35th St stop to IIT. Tom We crucify ourselves between two thieves- regret for yesterday and fear of tomorrow. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEn1nQZWzkfeDiTw4RAnGmAJ9nKtPusOSJzuVSjQGvnBJfnYpYKwCdHiM1 W+itgXOyPl99OnY9zBzSb6E= =lLVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ccf3 at mindspring.com Sun Jun 25 21:07:49 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:07:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] I won't be in till tomorrow morning, need advice. References: <75c1d03e0606251944v6e95c76aqd487c3faf1e2ccbc@mail.gmail.com> <927C3C71-0CE5-4B61-8CD4-7EA2D1A291E4@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <449F5D95.7050403@mindspring.com> Tom Yarrish wrote: >Well, Blue Line from O'Hare to Downtown is typically 45 minutes. But >around 9am you should be able to get a train pretty quickly. I'd >plan on about another 30 minutes once you're downtown to switch >trains and get to IIT. It's probably easier to switch to the Red >Line once you get down into the loop, since it parallels the Blue >Line there. However it's a little bit farther walk from the 35th St >stop to IIT. > Actually, it's probably easier to switch to the Green Line at the Clark and Lake stop. Just go up three flights of escalators and you are there. Clyde From uri at stemsystems.com Sun Jun 25 21:34:44 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:34:44 -0400 Subject: [yapc] arrival herding from dorms In-Reply-To: <86d5cw97za.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> (Randal L. Schwartz's message of "25 Jun 2006 15:38:17 -0700") References: <86d5cw97za.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: >>>>> "RLS" == Randal L Schwartz writes: RLS> According to the image from google earth, it appears to be on the RLS> right side of clark (after you've turned southeast) about a block RLS> down from Wrigley Field. it was on the other right side. :) uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From chromatic at wgz.org Sun Jun 25 21:35:56 2006 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:35:56 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Breakfast Message-ID: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> I'm hungry and it's still tonight. How do I get food in the cafeteria (or do I?) tomorrow morning? -- c From andy at petdance.com Sun Jun 25 21:52:09 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:52:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Breakfast In-Reply-To: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> References: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> Message-ID: <0F0BC11C-3402-4B76-9964-8C133586FB18@petdance.com> On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:35 PM, chromatic wrote: > I'm hungry and it's still tonight. How do I get food in the > cafeteria (or do > I?) tomorrow morning? Right now you can hoof it up to 7-11. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Sun Jun 25 21:47:16 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:16 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Breakfast In-Reply-To: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> References: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> Message-ID: <218E03EB-8AC6-4BFB-8049-5F7D7D552348@petdance.com> On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:35 PM, chromatic wrote: > I'm hungry and it's still tonight. How do I get food in the > cafeteria (or do > I?) tomorrow morning? Right now you can hoof it up to 7-11. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From chromatic at wgz.org Sun Jun 25 22:03:28 2006 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:03:28 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Dorm Breakfast In-Reply-To: <0F0BC11C-3402-4B76-9964-8C133586FB18@petdance.com> References: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> <0F0BC11C-3402-4B76-9964-8C133586FB18@petdance.com> Message-ID: <200606252203.29075.chromatic@wgz.org> On Sunday 25 June 2006 21:52, Andy Lester wrote: > Right now you can hoof it up to 7-11. I wouldn't send out a knight on a dog like that. (and you'll never guess what the dog had in its mouth) -- c From MichaelRWolf at att.net Sun Jun 25 22:32:49 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:32:49 -0500 Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo main free concert at millennium park In-Reply-To: <1151266801.6443.5.camel@lapierre> Message-ID: Yes. I'd like to go. I tried to start a "Yo Yo Ma Silk Road" link on the wiki, but it seems to be down. When the wiki comes up, first one there can post a "YoYoMaMaSilkSilkRoadRoad" link. -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+michaelrwolf=att.net at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+michaelrwolf=att.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Brennan > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:20 PM > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo main > free concert at millennium park > > I would be interested in seeing this. Anyone else? > > -Greg > > -- > Greg Brennan > Director of Information Systems > www.rimmkaufman.com > greg.brennanAT > rimmkaufman.com > (434) 970-1010 Ex. 112 > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From eli at mortgagefolder.com Sun Jun 25 23:35:16 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Dorm Breakfast In-Reply-To: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> References: <200606252135.57041.chromatic@wgz.org> Message-ID: <2717.68.20.6.188.1151303716.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > I'm hungry and it's still tonight. How do I get food in the cafeteria (or > do > I?) tomorrow morning? > If you don't have a meal card, don't fret. They take cold hard cash. Also the room temperature, floppy kind. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From eli at mortgagefolder.com Mon Jun 26 00:20:48 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:20:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Presenters, Please Read Message-ID: <1717.68.20.6.188.1151306448.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> I would like to ask a favor of the presenters (at least for the first day). It would be helpful for all atendees if you could add a slide to the beginning of your presentations with the info needed to connect to the IIT network. Somehow, you should convey the following: - Connect to an access point. -- YAPCWAP1 or YAPCWAP2 - Launch a web browser and follow the instructions. -- Login is 'iit-conference' -- Password is 'guest9900' There will be signs posted, but nobody pays attention to signage. Thanks, Eli -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From eli at mortgagefolder.com Mon Jun 26 00:24:35 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:24:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Presenters, Please Read In-Reply-To: <1717.68.20.6.188.1151306448.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <1717.68.20.6.188.1151306448.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <1756.68.20.6.188.1151306675.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> > It would be helpful for all atendees if you could add a slide to the > beginning of your presentations with the info needed to connect to the IIT > network. s/atendees/attendees/ It's late. I'm tired. I'll be on three hours of sleep tomorrow, so I may be acting goofy. Feel free to make fun of me all day. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From jose.castro at log.pt Mon Jun 26 02:43:33 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:43:33 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Presenters, Please Read In-Reply-To: <1756.68.20.6.188.1151306675.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <1717.68.20.6.188.1151306448.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> <1756.68.20.6.188.1151306675.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <2c9ff96d01c6083c38c4ab2814dc2316@log.pt> On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Elias Lutfallah wrote: >> It would be helpful for all atendees if you could add a slide to the >> beginning of your presentations with the info needed to connect to >> the IIT >> network. > > s/atendees/attendees/ > > It's late. I'm tired. I'll be on three hours of sleep tomorrow, so I > may > be acting goofy. That's nothing! Having slept only three hours from Thursday to Friday, not even bothering going to bed from Friday to Saturday and then taking a 16 hour flight from Lisbon to Chicago, thus changing timezone by minus 6 hours, I've managed to confuse my jetlag, which is now wondering whether it should send me back to bed or out on the street! Well, when in doubt... back to bed :-) jac > Feel free to make fun of me all day. > > -- > Elias Lutfallah > Chief Technology Officer > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 04:16:21 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] irc Message-ID: Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? From kent at c2group.net Mon Jun 26 04:23:18 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:23:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> Yes, the network is irc.perl.org, and the channel is #yapc. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: > > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From andydietz at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 05:05:28 2006 From: andydietz at gmail.com (Andy Dietz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:05:28 -0400 Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> Message-ID: <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> Anyone having connection issues. I am having connection issues at SSV I keep getting the message Connection timed out!! Maybe it is my location. On 6/26/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Yes, the network is irc.perl.org, and the channel is #yapc. > > > -Kent Cowgill > > C2 Group, Inc. > kent at c2group.net > http://www.c2group.net > 312.804.0160 > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: > > > > > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/6006d96b/attachment.html From miyagawa at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 05:07:27 2006 From: miyagawa at gmail.com (Tatsuhiko Miyagawa) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:07:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <693254b90606260507h373b0b92g17b4474226239811@mail.gmail.com> I had a problem with outgoing IRC connection in SSV and switched to using ssh port forwarding to connect via my server, and that worked. On 6/26/06, Andy Dietz wrote: > Anyone having connection issues. I am having connection issues at SSV > I keep getting the message Connection timed out!! > > Maybe it is my location. > > > On 6/26/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Yes, the network is irc.perl.org, and the channel is #yapc. > > > > > > -Kent Cowgill > > > > C2 Group, Inc. > > kent at c2group.net > > http://www.c2group.net > > 312.804.0160 > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: > > > > > > > > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > -- Tatsuhiko Miyagawa From jose.castro at log.pt Mon Jun 26 05:08:09 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:08:09 +0100 Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <678630cb4f4d2a8a40432cd5aaee8fcc@log.pt> Likewise for MSV. I heard there was something we had to do... Anyone care to put up a Wiki page with that? jac On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Andy Dietz wrote: > Anyone having connection issues.? I am having connection issues at SSV > I keep getting the message Connection timed out!! > > Maybe it is my location.? > > On 6/26/06, Kent Cowgill wrote:irc.perl.org, and > the channel is #yapc. >> >> >> -Kent Cowgill >> >> C2 Group, Inc. >> kent at c2group.net >> http://www.c2group.net >> 312.804.0160 >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: >> >> > >> > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > yapc mailing list >> > yapc at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. 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Yes, IRC seems to be blocked here in SSV. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From will.willis at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 05:10:29 2006 From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:10:29 -0500 Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ee1e6090606260510w283c1f12rb52a4afcc1bd31ce@mail.gmail.com> I'm getting "connection disconnected" in MSV. -Will On 6/26/06, Andy Dietz wrote: > Anyone having connection issues. I am having connection issues at SSV > I keep getting the message Connection timed out!! > > Maybe it is my location. > > > On 6/26/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Yes, the network is irc.perl.org, and the channel is #yapc. > > > > > > -Kent Cowgill > > > > C2 Group, Inc. > > kent at c2group.net > > http://www.c2group.net > > 312.804.0160 > > > > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: > > > > > > > > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From boberkfe at watson.wustl.edu Mon Jun 26 05:29:18 2006 From: boberkfe at watson.wustl.edu (Ben Oberkfell) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:29:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV Message-ID: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling something like Fargo. From steve at fisharerojo.org Mon Jun 26 05:32:00 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:32:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Where are the talks at? Message-ID: <20060626123200.GA10738@fisharerojo.org> Hi all, The schedule shows what rooms the various talks are in, but not the building? Which building should we be going to for the talks? Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From andydietz at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 05:35:56 2006 From: andydietz at gmail.com (Andy Dietz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:35:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> References: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <869c5bb50606260535n7e1de5e1ue1d87902386aee59@mail.gmail.com> We have one, but I think it is only for looks or a torture device. We turned it all the way to 90 and I still feel the cold air. There must be a master device that over rides the others. We should look for him, but he might have froze to death already :) On 6/26/06, Ben Oberkfell wrote: > > Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? > Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. > > The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling > something like Fargo. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/a31f66fb/attachment.html From jose.castro at log.pt Mon Jun 26 05:39:57 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:39:57 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Are there changes to the schedule? Message-ID: <55109c0acd66971769e816a2659f11e6@log.pt> I heard something about talk cancelations...? Is the schedule version on the "Open Source Conflagration" document up to date, or are there changes to it? jac ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From dagolden at cpan.org Mon Jun 26 05:41:24 2006 From: dagolden at cpan.org (David Golden) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:41:24 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Where are the talks at? In-Reply-To: <20060626123200.GA10738@fisharerojo.org> References: <20060626123200.GA10738@fisharerojo.org> Message-ID: <449FD5F4.9040202@cpan.org> Steve Peters wrote: > Hi all, > > The schedule shows what rooms the various talks are in, but not the > building? Which building should we be going to for the talks? Hermann Union Building From boberkfe at watson.wustl.edu Mon Jun 26 06:18:41 2006 From: boberkfe at watson.wustl.edu (Ben Oberkfell) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:18:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260535n7e1de5e1ue1d87902386aee59@mail.gmail.com> References: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> <869c5bb50606260535n7e1de5e1ue1d87902386aee59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <449FDEB1.3050007@watson.wustl.edu> In that case, if anyone's got any suggestions on how to MacGyver something up to block the air vent with just the contents of the YAPC goodie bag (well, except for the M&MS, I already ate those), please speak up! Andy Dietz wrote: > We have one, but I think it is only for looks or a torture device. > We turned it all the way to 90 and I still feel the cold air. > > There must be a master device that over rides the others. We should > look for him, but he might have froze to death already :) From dada.da at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 06:19:41 2006 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:19:41 -0400 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260535n7e1de5e1ue1d87902386aee59@mail.gmail.com> References: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> <869c5bb50606260535n7e1de5e1ue1d87902386aee59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The lobby person said when she's living in SSV, she leaves the window open for warmth. Seeing the temp outside this morning, I'm not sure that will add anything but humidity.. In the evening, I noticed they have a cabinet with some pillows and blankets in it. Their claim at that point was that if I wanted one I had to go to Campus Services in the morning, because they didn't have extras to go around. Er... On 6/26/06, Andy Dietz wrote: > We have one, but I think it is only for looks or a torture device. > We turned it all the way to 90 and I still feel the cold air. > > There must be a master device that over rides the others. We should look > for him, but he might have froze to death already :) > > > On 6/26/06, Ben Oberkfell wrote: > > Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? > > Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. > > > > The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling > > something like Fargo. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 06:32:12 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] irc In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260505o612cf1abndd254cabb539bdcc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I am devoutly paranoid and do not have an open SSH port on my home servers. So I guess, unless someone is going to be willing to set up a 'guest' account on their own machines for some Monger they never met I am probably SOL.... Is that a good summary of what I'm standing in? On 6/26/2006, "Andy Dietz" wrote: >Anyone having connection issues. I am having connection issues at SSV >I keep getting the message Connection timed out!! > >Maybe it is my location. > >On 6/26/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: >> >> Yes, the network is irc.perl.org, and the channel is #yapc. >> >> >> -Kent Cowgill >> >> C2 Group, Inc. >> kent at c2group.net >> http://www.c2group.net >> 312.804.0160 >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Tom Allison wrote: >> >> > >> > Isn't there an irc channel for yapc? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > yapc mailing list >> > yapc at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> From andydietz at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 06:34:30 2006 From: andydietz at gmail.com (Andy Dietz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:34:30 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Recorded Talks??? Message-ID: <869c5bb50606260634l7757dbaame84513c3c043ba10@mail.gmail.com> Is any one recording the talks. Unfortunately my clone got stuck at work, and I can't be every where at once. Is their a site we can host them? Any ideas or suggestions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/9ed8f5ce/attachment-0001.html From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 06:36:01 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <449FDEB1.3050007@watson.wustl.edu> Message-ID: If you still had the M&Ms you would be able to fix it. But since you ate them... How are you fixed for toothpaste? On 6/26/2006, "Ben Oberkfell" wrote: >In that case, if anyone's got any suggestions on how to MacGyver >something up to block the air vent with just the contents of the YAPC >goodie bag (well, except for the M&MS, I already ate those), please >speak up! From yapc at geoffeg.org Mon Jun 26 06:41:18 2006 From: yapc at geoffeg.org (Geoffrey Gallaway) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:41:18 -0400 Subject: [yapc] irc Message-ID: <20060626134118.GA19400@sin.sloth.org> I'm more than happy to give out accounts on my shell server for people. Please email geoffeg at geoffeg.org or call 859 866-3939 and I'll set you up. I need your desired username and I'll send you a reply with a hostname and password. From greg at rimmkaufman.com Mon Jun 26 06:42:19 2006 From: greg at rimmkaufman.com (Gregory Brennan) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:42:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo main free concert at millennium park In-Reply-To: <20060626014293.SM00108@mail.cvillehosting.net> References: <20060626014293.SM00108@mail.cvillehosting.net> Message-ID: <1151329339.6293.1.camel@lapierre> Done. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MondaySocialEvents | +--> http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?YoYoMaMaSilkSilkRoadRoad -Greg On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 00:32 -0500, Michael R. Wolf wrote: > Yes. I'd like to go. > > I tried to start a "Yo Yo Ma Silk Road" link on the wiki, but it seems to be > down. > > When the wiki comes up, first one there can post a > "YoYoMaMaSilkSilkRoadRoad" link. > -- Greg Brennan Director of Information Systems www.rimmkaufman.com greg.brennan at rimmkaufman.com (434) 970-1010 Ex. 112 From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 06:51:27 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] silk road in chicago starts monday featuring yo yo main free concert at millennium park In-Reply-To: <1151329339.6293.1.camel@lapierre> Message-ID: hook me up! I can't get this wiki thing to add my name.... But I'm interested. Maybe I'll just show up. On 6/26/2006, "Gregory Brennan" wrote: >Done. > >http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?MondaySocialEvents > | > +--> >http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?YoYoMaMaSilkSilkRoadRoad > >-Greg > >On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 00:32 -0500, Michael R. Wolf wrote: >> Yes. I'd like to go. >> >> I tried to start a "Yo Yo Ma Silk Road" link on the wiki, but it seems to be >> down. >> >> When the wiki comes up, first one there can post a >> "YoYoMaMaSilkSilkRoadRoad" link. >> >-- > Greg Brennan > Director of Information Systems > www.rimmkaufman.com > greg.brennan at rimmkaufman.com > (434) 970-1010 Ex. 112 > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From ann at domaintje.com Mon Jun 26 07:06:40 2006 From: ann at domaintje.com (Ann Barcomb) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:06:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> References: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <20060626080520.F63507@cerin.biocede.com> Pop open one of the panels on the top and switch it from 'high' to 'off'. I did that on Saturday after I had goosebumps from spending just a few minutes in the room... On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Ben Oberkfell wrote: > Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? > Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. > > The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling > something like Fargo. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 08:41:19 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <20060626080520.F63507@cerin.biocede.com> Message-ID: <9yyKX4Yb.1151336479.4388780.tallison@cling.tacocat.net> I don't think SSV has panels like MSV On 6/26/2006, "Ann Barcomb" wrote: >Pop open one of the panels on the top and switch it from 'high' to >'off'. I did that on Saturday after I had goosebumps from spending >just a few minutes in the room... > > > >On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Ben Oberkfell wrote: > >> Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? >> Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. >> >> The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling >> something like Fargo. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From dada.da at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 09:25:05 2006 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:25:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Recorded Talks??? In-Reply-To: <869c5bb50606260634l7757dbaame84513c3c043ba10@mail.gmail.com> References: <869c5bb50606260634l7757dbaame84513c3c043ba10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The organizers announced they're putting talks and slides online; sponsored/set up by media-landscape.com . Their ad in the proceedings booklet says check their site after the conference. -Daniel On 6/26/06, Andy Dietz wrote: > > Is any one recording the talks. Unfortunately my clone got stuck at work, > and I can't be every where at once. > Is their a site we can host them? > > Any ideas or suggestions? > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From tallison at tacocat.net Mon Jun 26 09:52:32 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] lightening talks Message-ID: Is there any chance I could squeeze in a lightening talk? After some discussions last night it seemed a worthwhile venture. So I'm venturing... ??? From andy at petdance.com Mon Jun 26 09:56:39 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:56:39 -0500 Subject: [yapc] lightening talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <867225A0-0680-420F-9BFE-732F51190055@petdance.com> On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom Allison wrote: > > Is there any chance I could squeeze in a lightening talk? > > After some discussions last night it seemed a worthwhile venture. > So I'm venturing... You want to talk to R. Geoffrey Avery. he's tall, red hair, beard. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From chip at pobox.com Mon Jun 26 10:07:08 2006 From: chip at pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:07:08 -0500 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <9yyKX4Yb.1151336479.4388780.tallison@cling.tacocat.net> References: <20060626080520.F63507@cerin.biocede.com> <9yyKX4Yb.1151336479.4388780.tallison@cling.tacocat.net> Message-ID: <20060626170706.GI5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 11:41:19AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > I don't think SSV has panels like MSV Just a rotating dial that (in my case) didn't stop the freezer effect until I set it on "90". -- Chip Salzenberg From alevy at adrade.com Mon Jun 26 10:08:14 2006 From: alevy at adrade.com (Adam Levy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:08:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Late Registration Message-ID: <4u25op$6pvaos@smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net> I wont be able to get to IIT until early this afternoon - and was wondering how I would go about signing in late. Will there be folders or registration information left out on a table or something for all us stragglers, or should I seek out anyone? Thx, -Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/586f5ece/attachment-0001.html From pcory at wcpss.net Mon Jun 26 10:27:18 2006 From: pcory at wcpss.net (Paul Cory) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:27:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Networking problems In-Reply-To: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> Message-ID: Guys, I can get on the network just fine from MSV, but when I go the the Hermann Bldg for conf activities, the DHCP server sends me messages about my IP address already being in use .... ....and then refuses to give me a new IP address. Which means I can't access the network at all from the conference site. Any ideas? I'm using Mac OS 10.4, and reboots, logouts, using the Network preference panel to refresh my lease and changing locations in the NP have all failed. Paul From lundyd at dmapub.dma.org Mon Jun 26 10:40:06 2006 From: lundyd at dmapub.dma.org (Dave Lundy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:40:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Networking problems In-Reply-To: References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> Message-ID: <44A01BF6.7060904@dmapub.dma.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cory wrote: > Guys, > > I can get on the network just fine from MSV, but when I go the the > Hermann Bldg for conf activities, the DHCP server sends me messages > about my IP address already being in use .... > > > ....and then refuses to give me a new IP address. Which means I can't > access the network at all from the conference site. > > Any ideas? I'm using Mac OS 10.4, and reboots, logouts, using the > Network preference panel to refresh my lease and changing locations > in the NP have all failed. > > Paul Are you using a software firewall? I don't have any experience with OSX, but I've had similar problems with the Guarddog firewall that many Linux distros, including KnoppMyth, use. I haven't found a proper solution yet, but disabling the firewall solves that problem. Since I have my own external hardware firewall and I'm not using wireless, turning off mt software firewall doesn't really bother me. But in a campus situation, there must be a better solution. I'd love to hear what it is. - -- Dave Lundy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEoBv2MIuTT1pRd1kRAqbhAKC+tGyTU5DJWLpLc83ALwc4PjS+tQCeIXwl qVP7vz5LE/RxAm/XqZpBkR8= =9dGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jt at plainblack.com Mon Jun 26 10:57:57 2006 From: jt at plainblack.com (JT Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:57:57 -0500 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF Message-ID: Since I haven't heard anyone scheduling this, I'm officially scheduling it. Let's meet up by the big poofy chairs (by the windows) in Hermann (where the conference is taking place) after the last talk of the day today. Let's call that 5:15ish. See you there. JT ~ Plain Black I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage From twists at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 11:11:13 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:11:13 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Better computers Message-ID: Just an FYI, the computers in the conference building suck. There are ordinary Windows XP computers in the library across the street. I was able to ssh to my box at home and get some last minute stuff done. All this occassioned because I worked on my laptop on the trip over. It was only til I arrived in the dorm that the laptop utterly died. Some kind of memory issue. It's a major bummer. It seems to function well enough to boot into single mode to let me copy MP3s from a CD to my phone or slides to a flash disk. That's about it. Josh From twists at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 11:12:51 2006 From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:12:51 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Better computers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 6/26/06, Joshua ben Jore wrote: I cross-posted this note about the better computers to the wiki at http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?UseableComputers. Also FYI, there are only 6 of them available to the public and right now, 5 appear to be occupied by the public. Josh From jesse at bestpractical.com Mon Jun 26 11:15:05 2006 From: jesse at bestpractical.com (Jesse Vincent) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:15:05 -0400 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060626181503.GD27199@bestpractical.com> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:57:57PM -0500, JT Smith wrote: > Since I haven't heard anyone scheduling this, I'm officially scheduling it. Let's meet > up by the big poofy chairs (by the windows) in Hermann (where the conference is taking > place) after the last talk of the day today. Let's call that 5:15ish. See you there. Ack. Can't make that. Sorry :/ From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Mon Jun 26 11:28:53 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:28:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Late Registration Message-ID: Yeah, somebody'll probably be around the table all day - its for swag and your badge, but you won't need them to get into the talks if you want to go staright in. a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "Accurate measurement is the begining of all wisdom." - Imhotep c.a. 2650 B.C. From freddo411 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 11:43:19 2006 From: freddo411 at gmail.com (Fred Kleindenst) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:43:19 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette Message-ID: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> I haven't seen anyone eating/drinking coffee on the L or in the stations. Is this a rule, written or unwritten? My morning latte wants to know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From freddo411 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 11:47:08 2006 From: freddo411 at gmail.com (Fred Kleindenst) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:47:08 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Restaurant recommendation.. Message-ID: <9853b1cf0606261147u2e8111b6n12543509a87851e4@mail.gmail.com> Had dinner at Kinzie's Chophouse last night. I'd give it 9 out of 10. Excellent wines, excellent steaks, and even the risotto was a 10. Prices are $30+ per head without wine. Dessert was just OK. Highly recommended http://kinziechophouse.com/ Just north of the loop near the merchandise mart stop. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Other than that, enjoy! -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From chip at pobox.com Mon Jun 26 12:22:42 2006 From: chip at pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:22:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060626192242.GJ5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:57:57PM -0500, JT Smith wrote: > Since I haven't heard anyone scheduling this, I'm officially scheduling it. Let's meet > up by the big poofy chairs (by the windows) in Hermann (where the conference is taking > place) after the last talk of the day today. Let's call that 5:15ish. See you there. What's a "framework" for purpose of the bof? -- Chip Salzenberg From johns at or8.net Mon Jun 26 12:26:16 2006 From: johns at or8.net (John Saylor) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:26:16 -0400 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: <20060626192242.GJ5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> References: <20060626192242.GJ5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> Message-ID: <20060626192616.GE4537@collab.or8.net> hi ( 06.06.26 14:22 -0500 ) Chip Salzenberg: > What's a "framework" for purpose of the bof? my guess is a web/db integration package. -- \js $&^]=.@>~ '*http://or8.net/~johns $?%=&`'> iraq body count: 38,475 [min] 42,889 [max] From nothingmuch at woobling.org Mon Jun 26 12:46:46 2006 From: nothingmuch at woobling.org (Yuval Kogman) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:46:46 +0300 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: <20060626192242.GJ5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> References: <20060626192242.GJ5043@tytlal.topaz.cx> Message-ID: <20060626194646.GL12121@woobling.org> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 14:22:42 -0500, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:57:57PM -0500, JT Smith wrote: > > Since I haven't heard anyone scheduling this, I'm officially scheduling it. Let's meet > > up by the big poofy chairs (by the windows) in Hermann (where the conference is taking > > place) after the last talk of the day today. Let's call that 5:15ish. See you there. > > What's a "framework" for purpose of the bof? it's supposed to be WebFrameworkBOF i think. -- Yuval Kogman http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See you there. > > (I take it back, I can stay until 6:15 or so) From merlyn at stonehenge.com Mon Jun 26 12:55:45 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 26 Jun 2006 12:55:45 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: References: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86ac7z7ku6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Andy" == Andy Lester writes: Andy> On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Fred Kleindenst wrote: Andy> You can eat and drink. There's no smoking, littering, or radio playing. People still have "radios"? With all the iPod ads I see on the L? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Mon Jun 26 11:54:44 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:54:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] laptop bag strap Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008393@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Is there anywhere close that I can get a laptop bag strap? I broke mine at the airport yesterday. Thanks, Jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/329d3f71/attachment.html From ssmith at watson.wustl.edu Mon Jun 26 12:25:30 2006 From: ssmith at watson.wustl.edu (Scott Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:25:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: <20060626181503.GD27199@bestpractical.com> References: <20060626181503.GD27199@bestpractical.com> Message-ID: <44A034AA.6030706@watson.wustl.edu> Sounds great, except that Jesse won't be there. Alternate time? Are there maintainers of other frameworks around? Scott Jesse Vincent wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:57:57PM -0500, JT Smith wrote: > >> Since I haven't heard anyone scheduling this, I'm officially scheduling it. Let's meet >> up by the big poofy chairs (by the windows) in Hermann (where the conference is taking >> place) after the last talk of the day today. Let's call that 5:15ish. See you there. >> > > Ack. Can't make that. Sorry :/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From jesse at bestpractical.com Mon Jun 26 13:29:21 2006 From: jesse at bestpractical.com (Jesse Vincent) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:29:21 -0400 Subject: [yapc] FrameworkBOF In-Reply-To: <44A034AA.6030706@watson.wustl.edu> References: <20060626181503.GD27199@bestpractical.com> <44A034AA.6030706@watson.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <20060626202920.GL27199@bestpractical.com> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 02:25:30PM -0500, Scott Smith wrote: > Sounds great, except that Jesse won't be there. > Alternate time? See my last note. Should be there for a bit at least. From waltman at pobox.com Mon Jun 26 13:36:45 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:36:45 -0500 Subject: [yapc] laptop bag strap In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008393@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008393@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <20060626203645.GA16600@mawode.com> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:54:44PM -0500, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Is there anywhere close that I can get a laptop bag strap? I broke mine at the airport yesterday. The IIT bookstore is in the student center across the street from the conference center. I haven't been in there yet, but it seems like a good place to look for a strap. Walt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just a suggestion, maybe next time the speakers can indicate if they want to be recorded or not, so the attendees can make sure to attend non-taping sessions. On 6/26/06, Daniel Allen wrote: > > The organizers announced they're putting talks and slides online; > sponsored/set up by media-landscape.com . Their ad in the proceedings > booklet says check their site after the conference. > > -Daniel > > On 6/26/06, Andy Dietz wrote: > > > > Is any one recording the talks. Unfortunately my clone got stuck at > work, > > and I can't be every where at once. > > Is their a site we can host them? > > > > Any ideas or suggestions? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's just part of Chicago culture. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From nobull67 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 13:43:25 2006 From: nobull67 at gmail.com (Brian McCauley) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:43:25 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Networking problems In-Reply-To: References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> Message-ID: <1a1eafc60606261343m3e421aa9ta968dbf96ff2a092@mail.gmail.com> On 26/06/06, Paul Cory wrote: > I can get on the network just fine from MSV, but when I go the the > Hermann Bldg for conf activities, the DHCP server sends me messages > about my IP address already being in use .... I notice that the DHCP leases are being handed out with a 24 bit network prefix. Does this mean the pool is <255 leases? If this is the case then we're probably running out. On a related matter why are the two APs on different SSIDs? Are they really on separate wired ethernets (i.e. separated by more than switches)? If not then putting them on the same SSID would make transparent roaming to the stongest signal possible. From freddo411 at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 13:50:39 2006 From: freddo411 at gmail.com (Fred Kleindenst) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:50:39 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Networking problems In-Reply-To: <1a1eafc60606261343m3e421aa9ta968dbf96ff2a092@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <1a1eafc60606261343m3e421aa9ta968dbf96ff2a092@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9853b1cf0606261350v29fb4ce5tea7f46f632df2b79@mail.gmail.com> I can report that my XP laptop has been able to get a wifi signal but has NOT been able to get a DHCP addresss at all today in Herman. Any work around would be highly appreciated. The cafeteria has a hotspot called iit that has been working for me today. --Fred On 6/26/06, Brian McCauley wrote: > > On 26/06/06, Paul Cory wrote: > > I can get on the network just fine from MSV, but when I go the the > > Hermann Bldg for conf activities, the DHCP server sends me messages > > about my IP address already being in use .... > > I notice that the DHCP leases are being handed out with a 24 bit > network prefix. Does this mean the pool is <255 leases? > > If this is the case then we're probably running out. > > On a related matter why are the two APs on different SSIDs? Are they > really on separate wired ethernets (i.e. separated by more than > switches)? If not then putting them on the same SSID would make > transparent roaming to the stongest signal possible. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Same user/pass. -beth -- Beth Skwarecki http://loxosceles.org Bioinformatics Analyst, http://sgn.cornell.edu print map {$x=$!=$_; $x=~s/[b-gik-oq-z]//ig; $x} (66,56,62,113) From tom at yarrish.com Mon Jun 26 12:53:22 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:53:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: References: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> <86ac7z7ku6.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: That and they probably just haven't updated the recording. They had to launch the Pink Line after all.... On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >> >> Andy> You can eat and drink. There's no smoking, littering, or >> radio playing. >> >> People still have "radios"? With all the iPod ads I see on the L? > > It's just part of Chicago culture. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > We crucify ourselves between two thieves- regret for yesterday and fear of tomorrow. From dagolden at cpan.org Mon Jun 26 14:44:00 2006 From: dagolden at cpan.org (David Golden) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:44:00 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Putting slides online In-Reply-To: <9853b1cf0606261350v29fb4ce5tea7f46f632df2b79@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <1a1eafc60606261343m3e421aa9ta968dbf96ff2a092@mail.gmail.com> <9853b1cf0606261350v29fb4ce5tea7f46f632df2b79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44A05520.2090509@cpan.org> I added a section on the wiki for linking to presentation slides that have been put up somewhere. (And I linked to my slides from the Eversion 101 talk.) David From p at chudpi.org Mon Jun 26 15:57:28 2006 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:57:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] question for those of us in SSV In-Reply-To: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> References: <449FD31E.1030003@watson.wustl.edu> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0606261557p26d18272l88fbcb157bb537e9@mail.gmail.com> Second that. On 6/26/06, Ben Oberkfell wrote: > Is there any way to turn off the air conditioning in the SSV rooms? > Maybe there's a thermostat around and I'm just not finding it. > > The constant stream of cold air coming in has left my place feeling > something like Fargo. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- I dare do all that may become a man. Who dares do more is none. From hwigoda at mindspring.com Mon Jun 26 16:11:20 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:11:20 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> References: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A234CF9-DD12-4CFA-BD8B-2B7D90FF3D88@mindspring.com> it is not allowed. that does not mean it does not happen. On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Fred Kleindenst wrote: > I haven't seen anyone eating/drinking coffee on the L or in the > stations. Is this a rule, written or unwritten? > > My morning latte wants to know. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From jkeen at verizon.net Mon Jun 26 16:12:48 2006 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James Keenan) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:12:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Monday Night Beer & Burgers Outing Message-ID: <36B5BE41-FCF3-458F-A9F8-6110DF42E3FA@verizon.net> Open to any and all: Going to Rock Bottom Brewery, 1 West Grand Ave, 312-836-0071, corner State, Red line to Grand. Meetup at Conference Center lobby (where we were all day today) at 6:45 pm sharp! jimk From bradoaks at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 16:30:36 2006 From: bradoaks at gmail.com (Brad Oaks) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:30:36 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Monday Night Beer & Burgers Outing In-Reply-To: <36B5BE41-FCF3-458F-A9F8-6110DF42E3FA@verizon.net> References: <36B5BE41-FCF3-458F-A9F8-6110DF42E3FA@verizon.net> Message-ID: we're up for it. +2 --bradoaks On 6/26/06, James Keenan wrote: > Open to any and all: > > Going to Rock Bottom Brewery, 1 West Grand Ave, 312-836-0071, corner > State, Red line to Grand. > > Meetup at Conference Center lobby (where we were all day today) at > 6:45 pm sharp! > > jimk > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- "i was unable to summon the help of the devil. therefore the quiz is easier than i would like it to be." -- g-c rota From rspier at pobox.com Mon Jun 26 17:27:04 2006 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:27:04 -0700 Subject: [yapc] CACert Message-ID: I just remembered that I'm a CACert (http://www.cacert.org) assurer. If anyone is interested in getting some CACert points, please seek me out. You'll need two forms of ID. At least one must be a government issued photo id. http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceByCAP You can download the CAP Form ... * pre-filled with your details: https://www.cacert.org/wot.php - pick one of the WoT Forms in the navigation, after you have logged in. * pre-filled with what you need: FAQ/AssurancePrefilledForms - How to modify the CAP Form fields (I have a handful of blank paper ones I'll bring with me.) -R From jhd at interguru.com Mon Jun 26 17:39:17 2006 From: jhd at interguru.com (Joe Davidson) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:39:17 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Bioinformatics BOF Message-ID: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> Unfortunately, due to a storm, my plane was delayed from leaving DC by 18 hours and I missed all day today. Is there any other time the Bioinformatics BOF is getting together? Joe Davidson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060626/fa1238f1/attachment.html From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 26 18:31:07 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:31:07 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: <6A234CF9-DD12-4CFA-BD8B-2B7D90FF3D88@mindspring.com> References: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> <6A234CF9-DD12-4CFA-BD8B-2B7D90FF3D88@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > >> I haven't seen anyone eating/drinking coffee on the L or in the >> stations. Is this a rule, written or unwritten? >> >> My morning latte wants to know. There have been reports of tickets given for eating on the CTA, but the chances are slim. From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 26 18:36:41 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:36:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Lost & Found Message-ID: There have been numerous badges and a few other valuable mobile devices and accessories that have been turned in to the registration table. If you think that you might have lost something at the conference, please stop by the registration and see if it is there. From josh at yapcchicago.org Mon Jun 26 18:37:42 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:37:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] laptop bag strap In-Reply-To: <20060626203645.GA16600@mawode.com> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01008393@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> <20060626203645.GA16600@mawode.com> Message-ID: >> Is there anywhere close that I can get a laptop bag strap? I >> broke mine at the airport yesterday. > > The IIT bookstore is in the student center across the street from the > conference center. I haven't been in there yet, but it seems like a > good place to look for a strap. There are quite a few office supply stores and luggage stores downtown also. Let me know if you need directions. From eli at mortgagefolder.com Mon Jun 26 20:33:48 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:33:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Hermann Network Health In-Reply-To: <20060626205443.GJ31499@highsorcery.com> References: <3F8DF2D5-5C32-4227-B504-50C985C9E2EB@c2group.net> <1a1eafc60606261343m3e421aa9ta968dbf96ff2a092@mail.gmail.com> <9853b1cf0606261350v29fb4ce5tea7f46f632df2b79@mail.gmail.com> <20060626205443.GJ31499@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: <2785.68.20.6.188.1151379228.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> We'll have it all straightened out in the morning. Check the front page of the wiki for a detailed explanation of what's going on. Basically, the BOFH left town just when we needed him. I guess he wouldn't be a BOFH if he was accessible. -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From MichaelRWolf at att.net Mon Jun 26 20:41:37 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 22:41:37 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Yo Yo Ma was great! Message-ID: And the fortune cookie at dinner was amazing: Linger over dinner discussions this week for needed advice. You just can't make this serendipity up As Larry said this morning, "Look at it again, possibly from a new perspective." Thanks all for participating, Michael P.S. If all the folks who went would put their names on the sign up list, we could use it to remember who went and as a way to keep in touch after YAPC. -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From andy at petdance.com Mon Jun 26 21:19:30 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:19:30 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Let's talk Message-ID: <58D153DB-8116-49CA-9E34-195518E72F74@petdance.com> My apologies to those I wound up saying hi to, and little more, as I rushed around (MJD, JFluhmann, at the very least). Between the talk that I gave, and the rooms I was in charge of monitoring, I was pretty crazy. Tuesday, I'm going to be doing mostly sitting around talking to people, so please come up and talk to me. With my Perl Foundation public relations hat on, I'd also like to talk to people about what's cool in the Perl world that I can sell to the public at large. Let's talk about what you think is worth shouting about. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From joey at joeykelly.net Mon Jun 26 21:29:27 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:29:27 -0500 Subject: [yapc] JamBOF at lunch on Tuesday at MSV Message-ID: <1c0063340606262129s247046ecma817caf827f1b6f8@mail.gmail.com> Guys, We've going to do our jammin' tomorrow for lunch. I guess that means we'll probably have to eat in the cafeteria, then trudge over to the sleeping dorm afterward. See ya here! -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From joey at joeykelly.net Mon Jun 26 21:32:50 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:32:50 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free concert Tuesday at MSV, all invited Message-ID: <1c0063340606262132x6e899601m217167749e9c62f4@mail.gmail.com> Heh. The JamBOF (http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?JamBOF) guys are going to get together during the lunch break and see how many people they can annoy with their assortment of musical instruments. Bring your earplugs and enjoy the show! -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From beth at loxosceles.org Mon Jun 26 21:37:11 2006 From: beth at loxosceles.org (Beth Skwarecki) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:37:11 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Bioinformatics BOF In-Reply-To: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> References: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060627043711.GQ31499@highsorcery.com> On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:39:17PM -0400, Joe Davidson wrote: > Unfortunately, due to a storm, my plane was delayed from leaving DC by 18 > hours and I missed all day today. > > Is there any other time the Bioinformatics BOF is getting together? I also missed the Bio BOF. Any bio people want to do lunch tomorrow (Tuesday)? Or was today's BOF too much biology enough? -beth -- Beth Skwarecki http://loxosceles.org Bioinformatics Analyst, http://sgn.cornell.edu print map {$x=$!=$_; $x=~s/[b-gik-oq-z]//ig; $x} (66,56,62,113) From joey at joeykelly.net Mon Jun 26 21:46:54 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:46:54 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Chinatown restaurant outing? Message-ID: <1c0063340606262146x5280c6d6k32f78e374b5e36e5@mail.gmail.com> Some of us are planning to go to Chinatown for some grub, say Wednesday dinner? If you're interested, please add your name on the wiki: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ChinatownForDinner Thanks. -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From zrusilla at mac.com Mon Jun 26 22:00:12 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:00:12 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Manny's Deli for lunch tomorrow Message-ID: Mike Fragassi and I are heading to Manny's Deli on Jefferson north of Roosevelt Road tomorrow for lunch. It's an amazing Jewish deli (not kosher, however) beloved by Chicagoans of all walks of life. They serve huge corned beef sandwiches and wonderful chicken matzoh ball soup and latkes. It's awesome. Meet us at the Green Line entrance after the end of the morning sessions. Between thought and expression lies a lifetime. -- "Some Kinda Love," Velvet Underground From zrusilla at mac.com Mon Jun 26 22:06:58 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:06:58 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Manny's: The Movie Message-ID: http://www.mannysdeli.com/mannysmovie.htm Between thought and expression lies a lifetime. -- "Some Kinda Love," Velvet Underground From hwigoda at mindspring.com Mon Jun 26 22:08:09 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:08:09 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Manny's Deli for lunch tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C443738-C0DA-498A-9152-F1C0C7858F2D@mindspring.com> manny's is one of the few deli's left in chicago. and it is cafeteria style. the best. On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:00 AM, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Mike Fragassi and I are heading to Manny's Deli > on Jefferson north of Roosevelt Road > tomorrow for lunch. It's an amazing Jewish deli (not kosher, however) > beloved by Chicagoans of all walks of life. They serve huge corned > beef sandwiches and wonderful chicken matzoh ball soup and latkes. > It's awesome. > > Meet us at the Green Line entrance after the end of the morning > sessions. > > > > Between thought and expression lies a lifetime. -- "Some Kinda Love," > Velvet Underground > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From mattnash at intrex.net Mon Jun 26 23:11:27 2006 From: mattnash at intrex.net (Matt Nash) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:11:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: References: <9853b1cf0606261143q54265282w723d223a3b60810@mail.gmail.com> <6A234CF9-DD12-4CFA-BD8B-2B7D90FF3D88@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <44A0CC0F.8030905@intrex.net> Joshua McAdams wrote: >>>I haven't seen anyone eating/drinking coffee on the L or in the >>>stations. Is this a rule, written or unwritten? >>> >>>My morning latte wants to know. >>> >>> > >There have been reports of tickets given for eating on the CTA, but >the chances are slim. > >_______________________________________________ >yapc mailing list >yapc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > A careful reading of the signs posted in the trains will reveal that drinking is not expressly forbidden as eating and smoking are. From bradoaks at gmail.com Mon Jun 26 23:12:19 2006 From: bradoaks at gmail.com (Brad Oaks) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:12:19 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CACert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I too am an assurer and would be glad to perform this for folks with the proper identification. ... will be here through the weekend. --bradoaks On 6/26/06, Robert Spier wrote: > > I just remembered that I'm a CACert (http://www.cacert.org) assurer. > If anyone is interested in getting some CACert points, please seek me > out. You'll need two forms of ID. At least one must be a government > issued photo id. > > http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceByCAP > > You can download the CAP Form ... > * pre-filled with your details: https://www.cacert.org/wot.php - > pick one of the WoT Forms in the navigation, after you have > logged in. > * pre-filled with what you need: FAQ/AssurancePrefilledForms - How > to modify the CAP Form fields > > (I have a handful of blank paper ones I'll bring with me.) > > -R > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- "i was unable to summon the help of the devil. therefore the quiz is easier than i would like it to be." -- g-c rota From mattnash at intrex.net Mon Jun 26 23:24:35 2006 From: mattnash at intrex.net (Matt Nash) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:24:35 -0400 Subject: [yapc] CACert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44A0CF23.2030001@intrex.net> As am I. The more assurers you can trick into looking at your ID, the more points you will get. Naturally, those with the most points WIN!! Brad Oaks wrote: >I too am an assurer and would be glad to perform this for folks with >the proper identification. > >... will be here through the weekend. >--bradoaks > >On 6/26/06, Robert Spier wrote: > > >>I just remembered that I'm a CACert (http://www.cacert.org) assurer. >>If anyone is interested in getting some CACert points, please seek me >>out. You'll need two forms of ID. At least one must be a government >>issued photo id. >> >>http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceByCAP >> >>You can download the CAP Form ... >> * pre-filled with your details: https://www.cacert.org/wot.php - >> pick one of the WoT Forms in the navigation, after you have >> logged in. >> * pre-filled with what you need: FAQ/AssurancePrefilledForms - How >> to modify the CAP Form fields >> >>(I have a handful of blank paper ones I'll bring with me.) >> >>-R >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>yapc mailing list >>yapc at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc >> >> >> > > > > From chris at clotho.com Tue Jun 27 04:26:52 2006 From: chris at clotho.com (Chris Dolan) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:26:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC video recording: first sample Message-ID: <9373A87B-5256-4D4C-8F3F-159DC543F989@clotho.com> YAPC attendees, Here is an initial sample of the video-narrated presentations that my company volunteered to record at YAPC::NA 2006. The following is a 59 MB MPEG4 video of Josh McAdams' introductory address for the conference on Monday morning. http://media-landscape.com/yapc/JoshMcAdams.mp4 For more information about the recordings, pick up a card next to the iMac at the front of any of the four conference rooms at YAPC. Chris Dolan, MediaLandscape Software http://www.media-landscape.com/ P.S. I forgot to turn on "fast start", so you have to download the whole movie before starting to play it. Sorry about that... From tallison at tacocat.net Tue Jun 27 04:48:29 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Masters Courses location Message-ID: Where are the Master courses for Thursday / Friday going to be held? From jose.castro at log.pt Tue Jun 27 04:49:37 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:49:37 +0100 Subject: [yapc] YAPC video recording: first sample In-Reply-To: <9373A87B-5256-4D4C-8F3F-159DC543F989@clotho.com> References: <9373A87B-5256-4D4C-8F3F-159DC543F989@clotho.com> Message-ID: I have only one word: WOW!!! :-) Great job, Chris :-) Thanks :-) jac On Jun 27, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Chris Dolan wrote: > http://media-landscape.com/yapc/JoshMcAdams.mp4 ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From josh at yapcchicago.org Tue Jun 27 05:14:28 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:14:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Masters Courses location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Where are the Master courses for Thursday / Friday going to be held? - Learning Perl by brian d foy: Perlstein 109 - Intermediate Perl by Randal Schwartz: Wishnick 116 - Perl Best Practices by Damian Conway: Perlstein 108 From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Jun 27 05:21:25 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 27 Jun 2006 05:21:25 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Masters Courses location In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86hd266b7e.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Joshua" == Joshua McAdams writes: Joshua> - Learning Perl by brian d foy: Perlstein 109 Joshua> - Intermediate Perl by Randal Schwartz: Wishnick 116 I'll have to bring a Perl Stein to unify the address. :) Joshua> - Perl Best Practices by Damian Conway: Perlstein 108 -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tim at consultix-inc.com Tue Jun 27 05:47:11 2006 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:47:11 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Perl Educators/Authors BOF In-Reply-To: <20060624132220.GA14768@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> References: <20060624132220.GA14768@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20060627124711.GB7093@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> To avoid conflicts with people heading out to dinner, I've changed this BOF to 12:30 today (Tuesday) at the "BOF room" (next to the alumni room). See you there! *-------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim at ( Consultix-Inc, TeachMePerl, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | UPCOMING CLASSES: 7/17: Hashes & Arrays 7/18-20: Intermed. Perl | | Watch for my Aug '06 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | | See MinimalPerl.com for details, ordering, and email-list signup | *-------------------------------------------------------------------* From dnm_a at swbell.net Tue Jun 27 06:50:53 2006 From: dnm_a at swbell.net (David Messina) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:50:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Bioinformatics BOF In-Reply-To: <20060627043711.GQ31499@highsorcery.com> References: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> <20060627043711.GQ31499@highsorcery.com> Message-ID: <0012BC91-6297-45C2-A888-1144DE771570@swbell.net> I'm definitely up for another meet. I don't think I'm up for doing it at the caf again. :) Is it crazy to suggest we head somewhere off campus for lunch today (Tuesday?) If that really isn't feasible, then I'll head over to the caf a little early and try to stake out a large-ish table for us. On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:37 PM, Beth Skwarecki wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:39:17PM -0400, Joe Davidson wrote: >> Unfortunately, due to a storm, my plane was delayed from leaving >> DC by 18 >> hours and I missed all day today. >> >> Is there any other time the Bioinformatics BOF is getting together? > > I also missed the Bio BOF. Any bio people want to do lunch tomorrow > (Tuesday)? Or was today's BOF too much biology enough? > > -beth From jhd at interguru.com Tue Jun 27 07:53:45 2006 From: jhd at interguru.com (Joe Davidson) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:53:45 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Bioinformatics BOF In-Reply-To: <0012BC91-6297-45C2-A888-1144DE771570@swbell.net> References: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> <20060627043711.GQ31499@highsorcery.com> <0012BC91-6297-45C2-A888-1144DE771570@swbell.net> Message-ID: <75c1d03e0606270753y74534cc4s71114d1167d1994b@mail.gmail.com> Because I am fatigued for from illness, I need to use the caf to minimize my expenditure of energy. I'll meet you there. Joe Davidson On 6/27/06, David Messina wrote: > > I'm definitely up for another meet. > > I don't think I'm up for doing it at the caf again. :) > > Is it crazy to suggest we head somewhere off campus for lunch today > (Tuesday?) > > If that really isn't feasible, then I'll head over to the caf a > little early and try to stake out a large-ish table for us. > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:37 PM, Beth Skwarecki wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:39:17PM -0400, Joe Davidson wrote: > >> Unfortunately, due to a storm, my plane was delayed from leaving > >> DC by 18 > >> hours and I missed all day today. > >> > >> Is there any other time the Bioinformatics BOF is getting together? > > > > I also missed the Bio BOF. Any bio people want to do lunch tomorrow > > (Tuesday)? Or was today's BOF too much biology enough? > > > > -beth > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Joe Davidson Silver Spring, MD www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm truespel.com/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060627/760d1eff/attachment.html From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 27 07:54:51 2006 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Alternate dinner tonight? Message-ID: So there's nothing vegan at Dave & Buster's, and even if you're not vegan, the food is nasty. My plan is to go out for dinner and then go hang out at D&B. If folks are interested in something like this, let me know. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 27 07:56:15 2006 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:56:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Let me buy you food Message-ID: I foolishly put $15 on my meal card, but the food at the cafeteria is ass-tastic. If you see me there getting some tea in the morning, ask me to buy you your food. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From waltman at pobox.com Tue Jun 27 08:03:05 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:03:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Let me buy you food In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060627150305.GC16600@mawode.com> On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 09:56:15AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I foolishly put $15 on my meal card, but the food at the cafeteria is > ass-tastic. If you see me there getting some tea in the morning, ask me to > buy you your food. I discovered this morning that you can spend the money at the little shop in the lobby, too. I'm willing to bet you can use it anywhere on campus, e.g. at the campus bookstore. Walt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060627/4e9635ed/attachment.bin From dpisoni at shopzilla.com Tue Jun 27 08:40:01 2006 From: dpisoni at shopzilla.com (David Pisoni) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:40:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Manny's Deli for lunch tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96165EE1-969F-4F72-930A-EDCA5310583E@shopzilla.com> I'm so in. Even if you don't come. ;-) On Jun 27, 2006, at 0.00, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Mike Fragassi and I are heading to Manny's Deli > on Jefferson north of Roosevelt Road > tomorrow for lunch. It's an amazing Jewish deli (not kosher, however) > beloved by Chicagoans of all walks of life. They serve huge corned > beef sandwiches and wonderful chicken matzoh ball soup and latkes. > It's awesome. > > Meet us at the Green Line entrance after the end of the morning > sessions. > > > > Between thought and expression lies a lifetime. -- "Some Kinda Love," > Velvet Underground > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From adeltac at valueclick.com Tue Jun 27 09:10:54 2006 From: adeltac at valueclick.com (Aran Deltac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:10:54 -0700 Subject: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The signs that I saw on the L mentioned the food is not allowed, but nothing about drinks. So, I've just assumed that drinks are OK. Aran > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org [mailto:yapc- > bounces+adeltac=valueclick.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua McAdams > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:31 PM > To: Hal Wigoda > Cc: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [yapc] Food on CTA etiquette > > > > >> I haven't seen anyone eating/drinking coffee on the L or in the > >> stations. Is this a rule, written or unwritten? > >> > >> My morning latte wants to know. > > There have been reports of tickets given for eating on the CTA, but > the chances are slim. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From dnm_a at swbell.net Tue Jun 27 09:25:42 2006 From: dnm_a at swbell.net (David Messina) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:25:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Bioinformatics BOF In-Reply-To: <75c1d03e0606270753y74534cc4s71114d1167d1994b@mail.gmail.com> References: <75c1d03e0606261739u1d462c47m7bab8017f7460390@mail.gmail.com> <20060627043711.GQ31499@highsorcery.com> <0012BC91-6297-45C2-A888-1144DE771570@swbell.net> <75c1d03e0606270753y74534cc4s71114d1167d1994b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Okay, sounds good, Joe. For you and anyone else interested in meeting up with us there, I'm wearing a blue striped buttondown shirt, my picture is on my wiki page, and my cell is 314-583-3661. Call me if you can't find us. From hwigoda at mindspring.com Tue Jun 27 09:45:00 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:45:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Alternate dinner tonight? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: my 2 favorite vegitarian restaaurants are the chicago diner on halsted between belmont and addison 3400 north and the heartland cafe - 7000 N Glenwood Ave, Chicago, 60626 - (773) 465-8005 at 1607 lunt On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > So there's nothing vegan at Dave & Buster's, and even if you're not > vegan, > the food is nasty. My plan is to go out for dinner and then go hang > out at > D&B. > > If folks are interested in something like this, let me know. > > > -dave > > /*=================================================== > VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com > Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog > ===================================================*/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From drforr at pobox.com Tue Jun 27 11:16:04 2006 From: drforr at pobox.com (Jeffrey Goff) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:16:04 -0500 Subject: [yapc] YAPC video recording: first sample In-Reply-To: References: <9373A87B-5256-4D4C-8F3F-159DC543F989@clotho.com> Message-ID: <91327aeef33bdb04395a7b8d750f5641@pobox.com> On Jun 27, 2006, at 06:49, Jose Castro wrote: > I have only one word: > > WOW!!! > > :-) > > Great job, Chris :-) Thanks :-) > > jac Indeed, guys. That's a great job... Will we have access to the raw camera feed as well? Having simultaneous slides and video is a great idea, but I'd like to have access to the raw MPEG feed so that I can evaluate my presentation a little better... From hwigoda at mindspring.com Tue Jun 27 11:44:52 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:44:52 -0500 Subject: [yapc] pizzaria uno or due for lunch tomorrow Message-ID: anyone interested in delivery from the best pizza place in the world. From mattr at wolfram.com Tue Jun 27 11:56:44 2006 From: mattr at wolfram.com (Matt Reinhart) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:56:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Alternate dinner tonight? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060627185644.GA17187@wolfram.com> I'd like some tasty vegan food for dinner, instead of Dave & Buster's, too. I'm up for anything, and playing some games afterwards sounds like fun. I still haven't made it to Soul Vegetarian East. So, that's always an option. :-) On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 09:54:51AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > So there's nothing vegan at Dave & Buster's, and even if you're not vegan, > the food is nasty. My plan is to go out for dinner and then go hang out at > D&B. > > If folks are interested in something like this, let me know. > > > -dave > > /*=================================================== > VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com > Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog > ===================================================*/ > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 27 12:39:53 2006 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:39:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Alternate Tuesday dinner plan Message-ID: We'll be meeting at 5:15 in front of SSV north. We have two cars so we should be able to take at least 8 more people, I think. We'll probably be going someplace vegetarian or vegan, but all are welcome. Afterwards, we are going to D&B so if you didn't want to go at all you'll have to find your own way back ;) -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 27 13:17:24 2006 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:17:24 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Tuesday Banquet Herding? Message-ID: <0735CED3-63B5-4809-A115-53FBE907CD9B@packy.org> Will there be herding behavior for tonight's banquet, and, if so, where are we meeting? -packy From mrkoffee at saltedsnail.com Tue Jun 27 13:20:40 2006 From: mrkoffee at saltedsnail.com (Brian Cooke) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:20:40 -0500 Subject: [yapc] pizzaria uno or due for lunch tomorrow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31FE0AB2-687A-49D4-95B1-9DEB8941DF47@saltedsnail.com> On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: > anyone interested in delivery from the best pizza place in the world. > I was just sitting here lamenting that I probably wouldn't have a chance to go there before I have to leave for my flight tomorrow afternoon, so yeah, I'd definitely eat some of that Pizza if it was here. From jim at jgcinteractive.com Tue Jun 27 13:37:26 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (jim at jgcinteractive.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Tuesday Banquet Herding? In-Reply-To: <0735CED3-63B5-4809-A115-53FBE907CD9B@packy.org> References: <0735CED3-63B5-4809-A115-53FBE907CD9B@packy.org> Message-ID: As an out of towner (and out of country-er) I'm quite happy to be herded! /Jim On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Packy Anderson wrote: > Will there be herding behavior for tonight's banquet, and, if so, > where are we meeting? > > -packy > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From autarch at urth.org Tue Jun 27 13:41:53 2006 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:41:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] JSAN BOF moved Message-ID: It it now 12:30 Wednesday in the "tiny chairs" area. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From yapc at packy.org Tue Jun 27 14:13:23 2006 From: yapc at packy.org (Packy Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:13:23 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Tuesday Banquet Herding? In-Reply-To: References: <0735CED3-63B5-4809-A115-53FBE907CD9B@packy.org> Message-ID: <2A29F7E2-C9AF-45DA-B618-08905049C990@packy.org> They're announcing that we're being herded from the lobby of the conference center at 5pm. On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:37 PM, jim at jgcinteractive.com wrote: > As an out of towner (and out of country-er) I'm quite happy to be > herded! > > /Jim > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Packy Anderson wrote: >> Will there be herding behavior for tonight's banquet, and, if so, >> where are we meeting? -- Packy Anderson packy at dardan.com "It doesn't matter what system you are running, if you don't keep up to date you will be hit." -- Microsoft Sales Bulletin, after the Gartner Group reccommended that users avoid using Microsoft's IIS webserver "That's not very smart. It's like saying that it doesn't matter whether you buy a Toyota Camry or a Russian Lada, because you will eventually have to service it. Excuse me, but I'd rather own the Camry, thank you very much, because the probability of trouble is lower for the Camry. Of course I need to get both cars inspected regularly. The name of the game is risk management, and every manager has the responsibility to minimize risks. "Using software of doubtful quality is irresponsible." --Pascal Meunier, Purdue University From bwarfield at cpan.org Tue Jun 27 18:32:00 2006 From: bwarfield at cpan.org (bwarfield at cpan.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:32:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Wednesday Lunch? Message-ID: There seems to be some interest in having a PerlMonks BOF, but no actual plan. If there were a plan, though, it would probably be for lunch tomorrow, so I'm pretending that's what it is. That plan lacks a meeting location and a place to go, so I propose meeting by the bulletin board, wherever that happens to be at lunchtime tomorrow, and figuring out a place to eat then. (Chinatown has been suggested as an option.) So in summary, if there were a current plan for a PerlMonks BOF, it would be to meet by the bulletin board at about 12:05 tomorrow, and go get lunch. And if any refinements or modifications of that plan emerge in the next 18 hours, do please update the (physical) bulletin board posting to reflect them, so the less-networked among us will be clued in as well. :-) --Ben Warfield From bwarfield at cpan.org Tue Jun 27 20:42:00 2006 From: bwarfield at cpan.org (Benjamin Warfield) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:42:00 -0500 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Wednesday Lunch with TheDamian! Message-ID: Newly updated plan: meet at 12:05 and bring a little extra to help buy lunch for TheDamian! And do come even if you didn't bid: the point of PerlMonks winning the bidding was so that TheDamian could come to the BOF as well. (And then some people also bid who aren't Perlmonks yet--we'll work on you.) The current assumption is that we'll all go up to Chinatown and find some place that can handle a crowd--don't be late! --Ben Warfield -----Original Message----- From: Subj: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Wednesday Lunch? Date: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:33 pm Size: 929 bytes To: yapc at mail.pm.org There seems to be some interest in having a PerlMonks BOF, but no actual plan. If there were a plan, though, it would probably be for lunch tomorrow, so I'm pretending that's what it is. That plan lacks a meeting location and a place to go, so I propose meeting by the bulletin board, wherever that happens to be at lunchtime tomorrow, and figuring out a place to eat then. (Chinatown has been suggested as an option.) So in summary, if there were a current plan for a PerlMonks BOF, it would be to meet by the bulletin board at about 12:05 tomorrow, and go get lunch. And if any refinements or modifications of that plan emerge in the next 18 hours, do please update the (physical) bulletin board posting to reflect them, so the less-networked among us will be clued in as well. :-) --Ben Warfield _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From tallison at tacocat.net Tue Jun 27 22:39:56 2006 From: tallison at tacocat.net (Tom Allison) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] Fwd: Anyone at YAPC::NA? Message-ID: >From the Debian Perl list, in case anyone want's to chat physics and perl.... --- Original Message --- Date: 6/27/2006 From: "Carlo Segre" Subject: Anyone at YAPC::NA? If anyone is at YAPC::NA in Chicago this week and wants to chat, my office is just a block away... Carlo -- Carlo U. Segre -- Professor of Physics Associate Dean for Special Projects, Graduate College Illinois Institute of Technology Voice: 312.567.3498 Fax: 312.567.3494 Carlo.Segre at iit.edu http://www.iit.edu/~segre segre at debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-perl-REQUEST at lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster at lists.debian.org From uri at stemsystems.com Tue Jun 27 23:02:01 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:02:01 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Manny's Deli for lunch tomorrow In-Reply-To: (zrusilla@mac.com's message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:00:12 -0500") References: Message-ID: >>>>> "z" == zrusilla writes: z> Mike Fragassi and I are heading to Manny's Deli z> on Jefferson north of Roosevelt Road z> tomorrow for lunch. It's an amazing Jewish deli (not kosher, however) z> beloved by Chicagoans of all walks of life. They serve huge corned z> beef sandwiches and wonderful chicken matzoh ball soup and latkes. z> It's awesome. z> Meet us at the Green Line entrance after the end of the morning z> sessions. i wanna go too as i didn't buy lunch with larry, damian or randal :) :-) uri (with very sore feet) -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From eli at mortgagefolder.com Tue Jun 27 23:23:59 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:23:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Wednesday Lunch with TheDamian! In-Reply-To: <20060628034419.55E1917850@x6.develooper.com> References: <20060628034419.55E1917850@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <3380.68.20.6.188.1151475839.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> As a local, I would recommend Moon Palace, next to the fire station in Chinatown. Good food, and they should be able to handle a crowd. I'll be with Randall, not eating Thai. > Newly updated plan: meet at 12:05 and bring a little extra to help buy > lunch for TheDamian! And do come even if you didn't bid: the point of > PerlMonks winning the bidding was so that TheDamian could come to the BOF > as well. (And then some people also bid who aren't Perlmonks yet--we'll > work on you.) > > The current assumption is that we'll all go up to Chinatown and find some > place that can handle a crowd--don't be late! > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From joey at joeykelly.net Tue Jun 27 23:23:14 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:23:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] I can't make the JamBOF Message-ID: <1c0063340606272323k129ef5xdf6086fcd4533a72@mail.gmail.com> Guys, I bid on and bought Randall's time tomorrow for lunch, so I'm going to have to pass on the jam session tomorrow. Sorry. I did have a nice time at the one today (yesterday? gaa, it's late), though. Cheers :-) -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From jose.castro at log.pt Tue Jun 27 23:29:13 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:29:13 +0100 Subject: [yapc] PerlMonks BOF Wednesday Lunch with TheDamian! In-Reply-To: <3380.68.20.6.188.1151475839.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <20060628034419.55E1917850@x6.develooper.com> <3380.68.20.6.188.1151475839.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:23 AM, Elias Lutfallah wrote: > As a local, I would recommend Moon Palace, next to the fire station in > Chinatown. Good food, and they should be able to handle a crowd. > > I'll be with Randall, not eating Thai. And not having sex, unless he asks for it. >> Newly updated plan: meet at 12:05 and bring a little extra to help buy >> lunch for TheDamian! And do come even if you didn't bid: the point of >> PerlMonks winning the bidding was so that TheDamian could come to the >> BOF >> as well. (And then some people also bid who aren't Perlmonks >> yet--we'll >> work on you.) >> >> The current assumption is that we'll all go up to Chinatown and find >> some >> place that can handle a crowd--don't be late! >> > > -- > Elias Lutfallah > Chief Technology Officer > Mortgage Desk, Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From joey at joeykelly.net Tue Jun 27 23:38:43 2006 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:38:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Airport herding early Thursday morning? Message-ID: <1c0063340606272338m675b9cd5v659c6df4a5bfc59a@mail.gmail.com> Guys, I have a 10AM flight out of O'Hare THursday morning, and would like to travel on the L in a group, assuming others also have the same travel time frame. Perhaps you've got an earlier or later flight, but would still like to travel in a group as well? Here's a sign-up page: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?ThursdayMorningOHareFlights Thanks. -- Joey Kelly < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant > http://joeykelly.net (sent via gmail.com, no GPG signature) From MichaelRWolf at att.net Wed Jun 28 07:12:43 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:12:43 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Slides from talks Message-ID: This page has a list of slides from talks. Please update it. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SlidesFromTalks -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 28 07:22:41 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:22:41 -0500 Subject: [yapc] What's going on Thursday and Friday? Message-ID: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> I'll be available Thursday and Friday to drive down and meet/talk/ work with people. Adam Kennedy already has me lined up to work with him on Test::Harness. Anyone else have things to work on? -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From MichaelRWolf at att.net Wed Jun 28 07:24:44 2006 From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:24:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) Message-ID: Remember what it was like to be a poor, starving student? Practice Random Acts of Kindness..... Pay it forward... I still remember the $5 lunch that someone bought me after he told me, "You're a student. Put away your wallet. Pay it back to someone else after you graduate." If you have value still left on your meal card, consider giving it to a random student walking around on campus. Or the student at the front desk of the dorm. Or pin it to the bulletin board in the dorm. Or just drop it by the registration table. -- Michael R. Wolf All mammals learn by playing! MichaelRWolf at att.net From andy at petdance.com Wed Jun 28 07:27:48 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:27:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) In-Reply-To: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> References: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: Thanks for saying, Michael. Great idea. > If you have value still left on your meal card, consider giving it > to a > random student walking around on campus. Or the student at the > front desk > of the dorm. Or pin it to the bulletin board in the dorm. Or just > drop it > by the registration table. Same for CTA cards. A student came up to me asking for change of a $20 'cause she didn't want to put it all on her CTA card, and I just gave her the one I had that still had some bucks on it. xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From dagolden at cpan.org Wed Jun 28 07:46:37 2006 From: dagolden at cpan.org (David Golden) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:46:37 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Slides from talks In-Reply-To: <20060628141315.C496517849@x6.develooper.com> References: <20060628141315.C496517849@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <44A2964D.8090100@cpan.org> Michael R. Wolf wrote: > This page has a list of slides from talks. Please update it. > > http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SlidesFromTalks The page above duplicated a page for slides that already existed and was linked from the main page. Slides on the duplicate page above have been moved over: http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?YAPCSlides From dha at panix.com Wed Jun 28 08:06:06 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:06:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] What's going on Thursday and Friday? In-Reply-To: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 09:22:41AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > I'll be available Thursday and Friday to drive down and meet/talk/ > work with people. Adam Kennedy already has me lined up to work with > him on Test::Harness. Anyone else have things to work on? I don't know that I'll have anything to work on, bu I'll be around for a while tomrorrow. My flight is at 5:45p dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Also know as the first rule of finance: "Don't run out of money". - Tony Bowden From dha at panix.com Wed Jun 28 08:06:06 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:06:06 -0400 Subject: [yapc] What's going on Thursday and Friday? In-Reply-To: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 09:22:41AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > I'll be available Thursday and Friday to drive down and meet/talk/ > work with people. Adam Kennedy already has me lined up to work with > him on Test::Harness. Anyone else have things to work on? I don't know that I'll have anything to work on, bu I'll be around for a while tomrorrow. My flight is at 5:45p dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Also know as the first rule of finance: "Don't run out of money". - Tony Bowden From eli at mortgagefolder.com Wed Jun 28 08:43:43 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:43:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) In-Reply-To: References: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <50586.216.47.156.101.1151509423.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Of course, you will allegedly be charged $75 for not turning your cards back in. > > Thanks for saying, Michael. Great idea. > >> If you have value still left on your meal card, consider giving it >> to a >> random student walking around on campus. Or the student at the >> front desk >> of the dorm. Or pin it to the bulletin board in the dorm. Or just >> drop it >> by the registration table. > > Same for CTA cards. A student came up to me asking for change of a > $20 'cause she didn't want to put it all on her CTA card, and I just > gave her the one I had that still had some bucks on it. > > xoa > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From dnm_a at swbell.net Wed Jun 28 09:07:20 2006 From: dnm_a at swbell.net (David Messina) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:07:20 -0500 Subject: [yapc] paging David Huska Message-ID: David Huska -- I need my DVI->VGA dongle back. Please call me 314-583-3661 so we can arrange the handoff. From jrockway at uchicago.edu Wed Jun 28 09:40:02 2006 From: jrockway at uchicago.edu (Jonathan T. Rockway) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:40:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) In-Reply-To: <50586.216.47.156.101.1151509423.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> References: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> <50586.216.47.156.101.1151509423.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> Message-ID: <44A2B0E2.5020907@uchicago.edu> Elias Lutfallah wrote: > Of course, you will allegedly be charged $75 for not turning your cards > back in. What sort of cards are these? From freebsdx at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 09:47:38 2006 From: freebsdx at gmail.com (charlosG) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:47:38 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) In-Reply-To: <44A2B0E2.5020907@uchicago.edu> References: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> <50586.216.47.156.101.1151509423.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> <44A2B0E2.5020907@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: The IIT "credit cards" used to buy lunch and stuff. On 6/28/06, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote: > Elias Lutfallah wrote: > > Of course, you will allegedly be charged $75 for not turning your cards > > back in. > > What sort of cards are these? > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 28 09:56:11 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:56:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Free food (for someone else) In-Reply-To: References: <20060628142537.D21E517805@x6.develooper.com> <50586.216.47.156.101.1151509423.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> <44A2B0E2.5020907@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <20060628165610.GF16600@mawode.com> And which clearly state that they're non-transferable and that there will be a fee charged if they're lost. Before you give them away, make sure they're not going to charge you a fee if you don't turn them in when you check out. Walt On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:47:38AM -0500, charlosG wrote: > The IIT "credit cards" used to buy lunch and stuff. > > > On 6/28/06, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote: > > Elias Lutfallah wrote: > > > Of course, you will allegedly be charged $75 for not turning your cards > > > back in. > > > > What sort of cards are these? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060628/bbef9bbd/attachment.bin From jrockway at uchicago.edu Wed Jun 28 10:17:02 2006 From: jrockway at uchicago.edu (Jonathan T. Rockway) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:17:02 -0500 Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? Message-ID: <44A2B98E.7000506@uchicago.edu> I saw a sign for keysigning yesterday, but I never found anyone that looked like they were signing each other's keys. If anyone wants to exchange signatures, send me an e-mail and maybe we can meet before the afternoon sessions? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Before you give them away, > make sure they're not going to charge you a fee if you don't turn them > in when you check out. > > Walt > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:47:38AM -0500, charlosG wrote: > > The IIT "credit cards" used to buy lunch and stuff. > > > > > > On 6/28/06, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote: > > > Elias Lutfallah wrote: > > > > Of course, you will allegedly be charged $75 for not turning your cards > > > > back in. > > > > > > What sort of cards are these? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > yapc mailing list > > > yapc at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yapc mailing list > > yapc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEorSqXfGeK2entYQRAnaEAJ9qtmiX1DLfMZuqb82v5mbd9my1YQCghHLP > WF5jGmbPs/5V2ZFfUvscOu8= > =Hkfn > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > From Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu Wed Jun 28 11:33:48 2006 From: Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu (York, Joel) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:33:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? Message-ID: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF6B0A@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> I don't think there was enough time yesterday. I rescheduled for 1715 today in the BOF room. Joel York [shadowhawk] -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan T. Rockway Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:17 PM To: yapc at mail.pm.org Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? I saw a sign for keysigning yesterday, but I never found anyone that looked like they were signing each other's keys. If anyone wants to exchange signatures, send me an e-mail and maybe we can meet before the afternoon sessions? From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 28 11:35:48 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:35:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? In-Reply-To: <44A2B98E.7000506@uchicago.edu> References: <44A2B98E.7000506@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <20060628183548.GG16600@mawode.com> Wasn't someone supposed to be printing up sheets for the keysigning? On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote: > I saw a sign for keysigning yesterday, but I never found anyone that > looked like they were signing each other's keys. > > If anyone wants to exchange signatures, send me an e-mail and maybe we > can meet before the afternoon sessions? > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From waltman at pobox.com Wed Jun 28 11:38:28 2006 From: waltman at pobox.com (Walt Mankowski) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:38:28 -0500 Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? In-Reply-To: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF6B0A@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> References: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF6B0A@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <20060628183828.GH16600@mawode.com> Aha. I'll try to make it. On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 01:33:48PM -0500, York, Joel wrote: > I don't think there was enough time yesterday. I rescheduled for 1715 > today in the BOF room. > > Joel York [shadowhawk] > > -----Original Message----- > From: yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org > [mailto:yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Jonathan T. Rockway > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:17 PM > To: yapc at mail.pm.org > Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? > > I saw a sign for keysigning yesterday, but I never found anyone that > looked like they were signing each other's keys. > > If anyone wants to exchange signatures, send me an e-mail and maybe we > can meet before the afternoon sessions? > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060628/0ff769c8/attachment.bin From Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu Wed Jun 28 11:38:36 2006 From: Joel.York at chicagogsb.edu (York, Joel) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:38:36 -0500 Subject: [yapc] more keysigning? Message-ID: <971DA400F719E74CB13BC3E24562A14B01BF6B0B@GSBEX.gsb.uchicago.edu> That would be me. I have a few extra in case we have a few extra people. -----Original Message----- From: yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org [mailto:yapc-bounces+joel.york=chicagogsb.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Walt Mankowski Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:36 PM To: yapc at pm.org Subject: Re: [yapc] more keysigning? Wasn't someone supposed to be printing up sheets for the keysigning? On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote: > I saw a sign for keysigning yesterday, but I never found anyone that > looked like they were signing each other's keys. > > If anyone wants to exchange signatures, send me an e-mail and maybe we > can meet before the afternoon sessions? > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc _______________________________________________ yapc mailing list yapc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From pottmi at gmail.com Wed Jun 28 15:08:05 2006 From: pottmi at gmail.com (Michael Potter) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:08:05 -0500 Subject: [yapc] internet available at classes? Message-ID: <2379dacc0606281508l288db2e9r892947173be5078d@mail.gmail.com> Will we have Internet (wireless or wired) available during the classes? BTW: Thanks for all the hard work putting on the "show". -- Michael Potter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wired or wireless is fine. -- mike. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060628/40d9f45c/attachment.html From josh at yapcchicago.org Wed Jun 28 23:55:01 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:55:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] internet available during classes? In-Reply-To: <2379dacc0606282048q7a36f6fk865afc88e12efd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <2379dacc0606282048q7a36f6fk865afc88e12efd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2727B5C7-7FB5-4088-A76E-AD9429ECE23B@yapcchicago.org> > Will we have access to free internet connectivity during the classes? > Wired or wireless is fine. > The university should be providing wireless access to the classes. From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 29 08:45:47 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (jim at jgcinteractive.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps at the trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) Thanks, Jim Connor. From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 29 08:45:47 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (jim at jgcinteractive.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps at the trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) Thanks, Jim Connor. From ag at tkwx.us Thu Jun 29 08:57:49 2006 From: ag at tkwx.us (Alex Gill) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:57:49 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Trade Books: Intermediate Perl for PBP Message-ID: <44A3F87D.7080205@tkwx.us> I have an extra copy from my class with Randal. I'd like to trade for PBP. Thanks, Alex From Brad_Harum at picis.com Thu Jun 29 09:29:44 2006 From: Brad_Harum at picis.com (Brad Harum) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:29:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Presentations Message-ID: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? Bradford Harum Core Programmer, Picis US Phone: + 1 847 720 8538 9550 W. Higgins Road, Suite 1100 Rosemont, IL 60018 brad_harum at picis.com www.picis.com The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access or use by any other person to this internet email is not authorized and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete or destroy this email. If you do not wish to receive future emails from the sender, please reply directly to this email requesting you be removed from any mailing list. From Brad_Harum at picis.com Thu Jun 29 09:29:44 2006 From: Brad_Harum at picis.com (Brad Harum) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:29:44 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Presentations Message-ID: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? Bradford Harum Core Programmer, Picis US Phone: + 1 847 720 8538 9550 W. Higgins Road, Suite 1100 Rosemont, IL 60018 brad_harum at picis.com www.picis.com The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access or use by any other person to this internet email is not authorized and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete or destroy this email. If you do not wish to receive future emails from the sender, please reply directly to this email requesting you be removed from any mailing list. From mpeters at plusthree.com Thu Jun 29 09:41:47 2006 From: mpeters at plusthree.com (Michael Peters) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:41:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Message-ID: <44A402CB.3050000@plusthree.com> Brad Harum wrote: > Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were > used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the > www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? It's up to each speaker to put the link in him/herself. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?YAPCSlides -- Michael Peters Developer Plus Three, LP From mpeters at plusthree.com Thu Jun 29 09:41:47 2006 From: mpeters at plusthree.com (Michael Peters) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:41:47 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Message-ID: <44A402CB.3050000@plusthree.com> Brad Harum wrote: > Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were > used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the > www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? It's up to each speaker to put the link in him/herself. http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?YAPCSlides -- Michael Peters Developer Plus Three, LP From emoore at combinenet.com Thu Jun 29 09:46:27 2006 From: emoore at combinenet.com (Edward Moore) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:46:27 -0400 Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: <1151599587.3489.1.camel@rsw> I started a page for the the wiki. I put my contact info. Hopefully everyone else will add. Ed On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 11:45 -0400, jim at jgcinteractive.com wrote: > Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps at the > trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) > > Thanks, > > Jim Connor. > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc -- From jim at jgcinteractive.com Thu Jun 29 10:00:02 2006 From: jim at jgcinteractive.com (jim at jgcinteractive.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: <1151599587.3489.1.camel@rsw> References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> <1151599587.3489.1.camel@rsw> Message-ID: That's great. Thanks! On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Edward Moore wrote: > I started a page for the the wiki. I put my contact info. Hopefully > everyone else will add. > > Ed > > On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 11:45 -0400, jim at jgcinteractive.com wrote: >> Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps at the >> trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim Connor. >> _______________________________________________ >> yapc mailing list >> yapc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > From jose.castro at log.pt Thu Jun 29 10:53:53 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:53:53 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Message-ID: On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Brad Harum wrote: > Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were What do you mean? You want only the power point ones? > used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the > www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? > > Bradford Harum > Core Programmer, Picis > US Phone: + 1 847 720 8538 > 9550 W. Higgins Road, Suite 1100 > Rosemont, IL 60018 > brad_harum at picis.com > www.picis.com > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access or use by > any other person to this internet email is not authorized and may be > unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete or > destroy this email. If you do not wish to receive future emails from > the > sender, please reply directly to this email requesting you be removed > from any mailing list. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From jose.castro at log.pt Thu Jun 29 10:53:53 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:53:53 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Message-ID: On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Brad Harum wrote: > Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were What do you mean? You want only the power point ones? > used at the conference? Does anyone know if it is on the > www.yapcchicago.org site or if they will be available soon? > > Bradford Harum > Core Programmer, Picis > US Phone: + 1 847 720 8538 > 9550 W. Higgins Road, Suite 1100 > Rosemont, IL 60018 > brad_harum at picis.com > www.picis.com > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access or use by > any other person to this internet email is not authorized and may be > unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete or > destroy this email. If you do not wish to receive future emails from > the > sender, please reply directly to this email requesting you be removed > from any mailing list. > > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From kent at c2group.net Thu Jun 29 11:15:27 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:15:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> Message-ID: <20060629131457.I8459@atbash.c2group.net> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Jose Castro wrote: > On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Brad Harum wrote: > > Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that were > > What do you mean? You want only the power point ones? Were there any? :) From will at coleda.com Thu Jun 29 11:40:48 2006 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:40:48 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Presentations In-Reply-To: <20060629131457.I8459@atbash.c2group.net> References: <1B2BD03E38673C4D83D3A44F0929C8C901410E5D@picischi-mail.picis.com> <20060629131457.I8459@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: powerpoint:presentations::kleenex:facial tissues. On Jun 29, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Kent Cowgill wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Jose Castro wrote: >> On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Brad Harum wrote: >>> Does anyone have a link to all the power point presentations that >>> were >> >> What do you mean? You want only the power point ones? > > Were there any? :) > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > -- Will "Coke" Coleda will at coleda.com From josh at yapcchicago.org Thu Jun 29 15:46:42 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:46:42 -0500 Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps > at the > trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?JobFairReps I updated it with some contact information that I had for each company. The email addresses listed are not necessarily the email addresses of the recruiters who were present, but they will get you in touch with company representatives. From jkeen at verizon.net Thu Jun 29 16:54:01 2006 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James Keenan) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:54:01 -0500 Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps >> at the >> trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) > > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?JobFairReps > > I updated it with some contact information that I had for each > company. The email addresses listed are not necessarily the email > addresses of the recruiters who were present, but they will get you > in touch with company representatives. I updated the Cheetahmail info. If anyone wants the PDF of our current Software Engineer posting, email me off-list and I'll send it tomorrow. Thanks. jimk From uri at stemsystems.com Fri Jun 30 07:00:32 2006 From: uri at stemsystems.com (Uri Guttman) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:00:32 -0400 Subject: [yapc] manny's for lunch today Message-ID: i am going to manny's deli for lunch today. http://www.mannysdeli.com/lunch.htm http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1141+S.+Jefferson,+Chicago,+IL,+60607&ie=UTF8&ll=41.865278,_87.637639&spn=0.012976,0.041971&om=1 meet at the green line station (on platform or at south entrance with escalators) at noon. 1 stop to roosevelt and a walk about .5 miles west. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org From pmichaud at pobox.com Fri Jun 30 07:07:11 2006 From: pmichaud at pobox.com (Patrick R. Michaud) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:07:11 -0500 Subject: [yapc] manny's for lunch today In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060630140711.GE9893@host.pmichaud.com> On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 10:00:32AM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: > > i am going to manny's deli for lunch today. > > http://www.mannysdeli.com/lunch.htm I vote yes. See you there! Pm From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 30 08:12:51 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:12:51 -0500 Subject: [yapc] trade books Message-ID: if so, does anyone in the PBP class want to trade the PBP book for the Intermediate Perl book? i have an extra copy. hal From zaz at mitre.org Fri Jun 30 08:27:09 2006 From: zaz at mitre.org (Zebrowski, Zak) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:27:09 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Thanks... Message-ID: All, Thanks for the wonderful YAPC, and thanks to everyone at Chicago.pm, TPF, and other sponsors. I would also like to thank these three presenters for presentations which I thought was exceptional, and I would encourage people to view the video and/or review the notes on the web if you think the topics are interesting: * Managing a Giant Perl Project, JT Smith. While not a "pure perl" talk, still a great presentation about project management best practices. * Get out of Technical Debt Now, Andy Lester. A great presentation about perl best practices. * Shrinkwrap Software Development with Perl, PAR and SOAP, Chris Dolan. A great presentation about PAR. I've been using PAR at work, and I found out a few PAR flags and behavior characteristics which I didn't know about. Also, the wiki conversation at : http://yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?SoWhatsTheDeal is great reading & great lessons learned. On that note, have a great day. Zak -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/yapc/attachments/20060630/710373da/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Fri Jun 30 09:46:19 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:46:19 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Thanks... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Zebrowski, Zak wrote: > * Get out of Technical Debt Now, Andy Lester. A great presentation > about perl best practices. Thanks for the kind words. I would be glad to come to your local PM/ user group and give it, too. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From dpisoni at shopzilla.com Fri Jun 30 10:14:43 2006 From: dpisoni at shopzilla.com (David Pisoni) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:14:43 -0700 Subject: [yapc] List of reps from yapc job fair In-Reply-To: References: <85AA17F2-A79E-4C44-8721-60BECF203832@petdance.com> <20060628150606.GA20780@panix.com> Message-ID: <61320657-CB0D-4515-9BD6-86B78516ECD7@shopzilla.com> On Jun 29, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Does anyone have a list of names and email addresses for the reps >> at the >> trade show? (Couldn't find in on the site or wiki) > > http://www.yapcchicago.org/wiki/index.cgi?JobFairReps > > I updated it with some contact information that I had for each > company. The email addresses listed are not necessarily the email > addresses of the recruiters who were present, but they will get you > in touch with company representatives. I added the Shopzilla contacts and links to our jobs page. Enjoy, David Pisoni dpisoni at shopzilla.com Director, Site Infrastructure Shopzilla, Inc. "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." - Elbert Hubbard, author, editor, printer (1856-1915) From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Fri Jun 30 14:48:18 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:48:18 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans Message-ID: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Folks, This is my last night in Chicago. The Intermediate Perl class was great. Does anyone have any special plans for tonight? Bill Morris From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 30 15:34:53 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:34:53 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans In-Reply-To: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: you should go to taste of chicago downtown. lottsa food and music and people. On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Bill Morris wrote: > Folks, > > This is my last night in Chicago. > The Intermediate Perl class was > great. > > Does anyone have any special > plans for tonight? > > Bill Morris > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From bill_morris at ncsu.edu Fri Jun 30 15:39:50 2006 From: bill_morris at ncsu.edu (Bill Morris) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:39:50 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans In-Reply-To: References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <44A561F0.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Good idea. I've heard about it, but not crazy about going alone. Bill >>> Hal Wigoda 6/30/2006 5:34 PM >>> you should go to taste of chicago downtown. lottsa food and music and people. On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Bill Morris wrote: > Folks, > > This is my last night in Chicago. > The Intermediate Perl class was > great. > > Does anyone have any special > plans for tonight? > > Bill Morris > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc From jose.castro at log.pt Fri Jun 30 15:55:35 2006 From: jose.castro at log.pt (Jose Castro) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:55:35 +0100 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans In-Reply-To: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: On Jun 30, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Bill Morris wrote: > Folks, > > This is my last night in Chicago. > The Intermediate Perl class was > great. > > Does anyone have any special > plans for tonight? Er... Hackathon? O:-) We're near the cafeteria :-) > Bill Morris > _______________________________________________ > yapc mailing list > yapc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/yapc > > ------------------------------------------ Jos? Castro log Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Av. Duque de ?vila n?23, 1000-138 Lisboa ------------------------------------------ From josh at yapcchicago.org Fri Jun 30 22:53:14 2006 From: josh at yapcchicago.org (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 00:53:14 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans In-Reply-To: <44A561F0.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <44A561F0.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <39E5A7A3-225D-4987-B0A3-3355C883F615@yapcchicago.org> > Good idea. I've heard about it, but not > crazy about going alone. Bill, we are thinking about going in the morning... maybe around 11 a.m., maybe sooner. Uri wants to stop by before he flys out. From jesse at bestpractical.com Fri Jun 30 23:02:56 2006 From: jesse at bestpractical.com (Jesse Vincent) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 02:02:56 -0400 Subject: [yapc] Thanks! In-Reply-To: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <20060701060256.GT22028@bestpractical.com> Josh, Pete, and the rest of the crew, Thank you so much for a fantastic YAPC. The dorms may have been inspired by Stalinist Russia, but the conference content was fantastic. As an attendee, things appeared to come off without a hitch. Pretty much everybody I talked to had a great time. You'll be a tough act to follow next year. Best, Jesse Vincent From hwigoda at mindspring.com Fri Jun 30 23:08:18 2006 From: hwigoda at mindspring.com (Hal Wigoda) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:08:18 -0500 Subject: [yapc] Any Friday Night Plans In-Reply-To: <39E5A7A3-225D-4987-B0A3-3355C883F615@yapcchicago.org> References: <44A555DF.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <44A561F0.CA9F.0041.0@gw.fis.ncsu.edu> <39E5A7A3-225D-4987-B0A3-3355C883F615@yapcchicago.org> Message-ID: <838747C7-A896-448F-BCF5-5449C611867C@mindspring.com> Randal and I may be going to Taste of Chicago saturday evening. There's alot of food, lotsa music, and lotsa people. On Jul 1, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Good idea. I've heard about it, but not >> crazy about going alone. > > Bill, we are thinking about going in the morning... maybe around 11 > a.m., maybe sooner. Uri wants to stop by before he flys out. >